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Speaker 1: Inform I look it bom bomb down. Hey, we're back

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Speaker 1: at it. It's Halloween edition of Morning Combat Live, October

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth, Monday twenty and twenty four. That's a mario

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Speaker 1: to my ri. It's me too cheesy and we are

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Speaker 1: of course having a little fun here Halloween celebration. But

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Speaker 1: we're back with a very hortant show because Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: will be providing live filatio a pond ilia to Pooria

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Speaker 1: as we break down UFC three oh eight, and a

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Speaker 1: very special guest twelve thirty pm Eastern Stick Around for

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Speaker 1: Pound for pound ranked twenty four year old sensation Jesse

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Speaker 1: Bam Rodriguez, who's back in November on the Boots Senis

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Speaker 1: double Header there on his own, will be chatting with

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Speaker 1: that fella. So we're gonna have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll have you seen this shit on the way out. Luke,

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Speaker 1: you were the one that said, BC, we got it,

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Speaker 1: we gotta dress up, we gotta do this. You gotta

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Speaker 1: do it, Okay, So if you're gonna do it, you

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Speaker 1: better do it, and you did it.

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Speaker 4: I did it.

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Speaker 5: I got Mario with a little extra belly. Here.

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Speaker 1: Those are some high nips you got right there.

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Speaker 5: I got some big old nippies here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some pizza pies right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pizza pies. This is my outfit that I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: use to go and just fucking stunt on the block

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Speaker 4: on you hose out there, especially now the illiots to

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Speaker 4: Pooria one. And you know, I just got one thing

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Speaker 4: to say, BC, Yeah, what's that? Suck on my fat knock?

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Speaker 6: Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 5: Suck on my fat notes?

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Speaker 1: If only you had the balls to pick him by knockout,

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Speaker 1: which you didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: What if I could be honest in a moment of seriousness, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: true moment of seriousness. Two things I didn't imagine. One,

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Speaker 4: I honestly didn't think he was gonna put his lights out,

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Speaker 4: and he did. Two dead serious. Watching Max laid out

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Speaker 4: like that bothered me a lot more than I thought it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watching Robert Whitiker tap in a half second bothered

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Speaker 1: me a lot. When you put those two together, What

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Speaker 5: But that was more confusing than it was.

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Speaker 4: It was because I was like, we talked about this before,

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Speaker 4: like usually chokes over the jaw. You can kind of

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Speaker 4: set your watch to one Mississippi two because they have

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Speaker 4: So I was like, what the fuck went wrong? And

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Speaker 4: then there's a picture of like half of his jaw

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Speaker 4: missing and you're like, oh right, and then.

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Speaker 1: Chris Barnett hurt himself celebrating him. It was just a

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Speaker 1: rough knight for my favorite fighters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Chris Barnett.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's like, dude, you're five to five

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Speaker 4: and nine thousand pounds. It's not a great combination for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there you go. So we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: great show for you today, for sure. I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 1: We're back where we belong here, back in the studio.

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Speaker 4: You see. I got a question, how do you pronounce

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Speaker 4: the name of BAM's opponent?

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Speaker 1: I think it's gay Vara.

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Speaker 5: It is, so, I asked my.

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Speaker 4: Wife, because there's there's no two dots over the U yes,

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Speaker 4: which would make it that would make it Gwyvara.

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Speaker 5: But I ask my wife. Here's what she said.

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Speaker 4: You ready, no.

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Speaker 1: Give up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the dulcet tones of miss Thomas More.

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Speaker 1: She is shout out that let's bring in the third

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Speaker 1: they call him Long Island Luke, and ye had a

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Speaker 1: Long Island Luke, How are you feeling today on this hill?

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Speaker 7: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Did you dress up for Halloween?

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Speaker 8: Bach?

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Speaker 9: I didn't, you know, I considered it. I was talking

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Speaker 5: How do we how do we fix that?

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Speaker 4: It's a ken question, you know. We got to talk

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Speaker 5: He's hot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, but yeah, we had a

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Speaker 9: On the main car minute we did hit the bet

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Speaker 9: generator Ilia Tuporia by Ko under two and a half around.

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Speaker 9: So I basically put a blind poll in the live chat.

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Speaker 9: You just vote for A, B, C or D. You

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Speaker 9: have no idea what you're voting for, and then I

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Speaker 9: like A, let's say, and that ended up being Ilia.

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Speaker 9: Then they voted for C and that ended up being KO.

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Speaker 9: They voted for B that ended up being under two

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Speaker 9: and a half. We take the final prop even if

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Speaker 1: Do you think Long Island Luke dressed up as a

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Speaker 1: degenerate gambler and pothead because I think he wins the career.

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Speaker 5: Your costume is guy who uses Methye, you nailed it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, We love that guy. Luke is too

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Speaker 1: excited this year for the big Thursday night Halloween.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 4: First of all, she dressed up yesterday or a Halloween

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Speaker 4: watch The Nightmare Before Christmas, which, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: You love Tim Burton, dude.

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Speaker 4: That movie took three years to make. They had to

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Speaker 1: So you should let her watch Edward Scissorhand.

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Speaker 5: I let her watch Corpse Bride, which Tim Burton also makes. Okay,

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Speaker 4: And we watched franken Weenie, which is also I don't

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Speaker 1: I love that title. That's great.

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Speaker 4: Franken Weeny. The dog's name is fucking Sparky, and then

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Speaker 4: but whatever, I hear a weird echo in my ear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. They'll figure it out, probably not, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's time for all of us to eat.

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Speaker 1: Eat a big old plate of that Georgian Spanish humble

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Speaker 1: pie coming up. But there's our socials you can follow us,

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Speaker 1: including our own YouTube channels. Thank you as well to

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Speaker 1: all of that, including Long Island Luke's mission over there

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Speaker 1: on the main card. Minute one big happy family right here.

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Speaker 1: But without any further ado, Oh I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: show off the you've got now, will I get?

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Speaker 5: You could absolutely be a UFC fighter like this.

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Speaker 4: Look at that?

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 1: Will I get? Will I get stabbed at all? On

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Speaker 1: the way home? It's really the you know when I

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Speaker 4: I think we'll fit right in if I if any

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Speaker 4: thing about new Haven? Yeah, you'll be just fine there.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. All right, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get into our show right now. Let's do it. Topic

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Speaker 1: number one. You already knew what it was. UFC three

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Speaker 1: h eight went down in Abu Dhabi, so you knew

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Speaker 1: it was a loaded card and it featured one of

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Speaker 1: us something to talk about there, Bonnie Ray. Yes, Ilia

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Speaker 1: Toporia did the thing. Third round knockout breaking opening a

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Speaker 1: very competitive first defensive as one hundred and forty five

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Speaker 1: Ilia obviously had the potential to be great, if not

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Speaker 1: the UFC. But after becoming the first fighter to not

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Speaker 1: only knock down how about knockout Max Holloway does the

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Speaker 1: MMA world? Oh, Luke Thomas, I don't know an apology

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Speaker 1: at this way. That's what I wrote in it. What

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Speaker 1: say you, Luke? Because I've seen you've gone on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're using this victory by Ilia to

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Speaker 4: So I do hear that echo?

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Speaker 5: If there's anything that could be done about that, it

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Speaker 4: You hear it too, right?

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Speaker 1: Is there are their headphones on the ground there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but the volumes they're off. It shouldn't it shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't quite know what it is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, here's the thing, right, and I saw some

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Speaker 4: people like replying, well, Ilia was favored to win, not

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Speaker 4: not like picking him as you're picking the favorite. But

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Speaker 4: you'll recall on April fifteenth, when we did that morning

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Speaker 4: combat in this very studio. This was just off the

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Speaker 4: heels of UFC three hundred. What I had argued was,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who fights Ilia to Poria next. It's

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Speaker 4: the wrong time to fight him, and we all love Max.

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Speaker 4: And again, watching Max kind of stretch it out like

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Speaker 4: that was terrible.

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Speaker 5: But this is what I mean. This is the guy

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Speaker 5: of the moment.

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Speaker 4: He's arguably I don't know if he's pump pound number one,

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Speaker 4: given what he did in twenty twenty four. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: about it later. I clearly believe I think you're a

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Speaker 4: fucking rube. If you think anyone other.

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Speaker 1: Than it's a debate.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if you go back in April fifteenth, yes, by

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Speaker 4: now I think it dawned on people more so that

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Speaker 4: Eliot was very good. But I made this declaration back

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Speaker 4: in April following UFC three hundred because as good as

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Speaker 4: Max is, this is the time of Ilia to Poria.

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Speaker 4: He's by far the best featherweight that we have. He

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Speaker 1: I think for a lot of us, we had to

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Speaker 1: But Ilia is not only the craft and I had

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Speaker 4: Every fund dude.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, do you remember when Max

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Speaker 1: Listen, look, it may have been like two guys, to

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Speaker 4: Dude, everyone does this. Everyone goes after me, and then

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Speaker 4: game where it's like, dude, it's like five people. Shut

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Speaker 1: It was he's talking to too cheesy right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get stand by too cheesy. No,

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Speaker 5: I understand it.

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Speaker 1: He might say the N word at the mic at MSG.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who he is.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of what he offers in the cage,

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Speaker 4: He's fucking awesome. He's awesome. And again I didn't think

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Speaker 4: If I'm a he will be like, oh, he fought

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Speaker 4: shut your hohoror mouth, shut.

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Speaker 1: Your horror mouth. All right, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: He did not fight in old Volkanofsky. He did not

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Speaker 4: It's two different things that happened there. You gotta watch

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Speaker 1: Suck it, bitches, whoa, it's to me, Mari y'all.

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Speaker 11: It's to me.

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Speaker 12: That sound like jar jar binks, don't I Oh shit,

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Speaker 12: Oh shit, it's my day. It's my fucking day.

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Speaker 1: Forget about the mileage. Not only is Max thirty two still,

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Speaker 4: So you've been in there with Max twice, you got

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Speaker 13: I am more than impressed. I'm blown away, man. Not

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Speaker 13: that I didn't think it could happen. Of course it

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Speaker 13: because he is everything he said he was. He said

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Speaker 13: and he did it. He knocked out first man in

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Speaker 1: Now, Luke, I think to bring up what we were

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Speaker 1: I do believe this puts Topouria in the driver's seat.

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Speaker 1: This was as big of a breakout year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's huge. But what about that other thing that we

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Speaker 1: legitimately be acceptable to have iliot to Poria as pound

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Speaker 4: For By the way, someone's got to tell Matt Ryle

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Speaker 5: He fucked it up.

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Speaker 4: kill him on the air, And that's actually why I

440
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Speaker 4: said it, shouts to Matt Ryle, who can't listen.

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Speaker 5: Okay, can we back up a point? Do you want

442
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Speaker 5: to get into Fighter of the Year now?

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Speaker 4: I think we just I think we just nailed the

444
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Speaker 4: We didn't We need to We need to have a conversa.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have that conversation ad nauseamen December. But what

446
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Speaker 1: do you got to say about it?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead? A couple of things I think are really

448
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Speaker 4: important to describe and understand. Let me ask you a

449
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Speaker 4: question very simply, and we don't know the answer to this,

450
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Speaker 4: but what does your gut tell you could somebody do

451
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Speaker 4: could somebody back to back beat Ilia?

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Speaker 5: Excuse me?

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Speaker 4: Could somebody back to back beat Volk and Max coming

454
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Speaker 4: in on short notice? Could even Iliya to Poria do it?

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Speaker 4: Coming in on short notice? I seriously have my doubts

456
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Speaker 4: that anybody could do that. I don't think you can

457
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Speaker 4: actually do that. That's the first thing I just want

458
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Speaker 4: people to start thinking about. But more to the point,

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Speaker 4: people need to understand strength of schedule matters. What poetn

460
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Speaker 4: did is I mean, there's no denying what he did

461
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Speaker 4: is extremely impressive. We're talking about the upper elite here, right,

462
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Speaker 4: so we're parsaying whose elite was better, not is one

463
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Speaker 4: guy good and one guy bad. But what makes Poeton

464
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Speaker 4: close to the top of the list is that he

465
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Speaker 4: beat more guys, he beat three, and he did it

466
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Speaker 4: on short notice essentially in a couple of those instances.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is this again, I don't think anyone

468
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Speaker 4: Illiot's Aportia included could beat Max and Vulk on short notice.

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Speaker 4: I just don't believe that that's actually possible. But the

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Speaker 4: bigger point is those guys like Dude YERI prohatch guy.

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Speaker 5: I know, we love him.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't use defense.

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Speaker 5: The quality of a win.

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Speaker 4: When you beat a pound four pound guy like Max

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Speaker 4: Holloway and a pound four pound guy like Vulk, that

476
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Speaker 4: is infinitely more difficult than yes, beating good fighters on

477
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Speaker 4: difficult circumstances. That's ultimately what you're arguing for Poeton. He

478
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Speaker 4: didn't beat as good a fighter, he beat a lesser

479
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Speaker 4: quality of fighter, but on a very difficult circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Been sure of the greatest calendar years I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: going head to head. I mean it's insane, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So, But the point I want to make is, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, somebody could go in there

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Speaker 4: and do And this is my hunch that you could

485
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Speaker 4: go in there and obviously beat the guys that Poton

486
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Speaker 4: did on short notice. I don't think many people could

487
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Speaker 4: do that Pooton did. I just don't think it's flatly

488
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Speaker 4: possible to take Max Holloway on short notice, and Kaohim,

489
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's possible to take Volkanovsky on short notice,

490
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Speaker 4: and Kaohm it simply cannot be done. It is a

491
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Speaker 4: much more difficult task to accomplish what Ilia did, even

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Speaker 4: if it's two wins versus three.

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Speaker 1: Let's be yeah, Ilia gets the nod in as close

494
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Speaker 1: a race I've seen since they screwed over out of

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Speaker 1: Soignia in twenty nineteen. I agree with that, But what

496
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Speaker 1: about this pound for pound top ten? As our sung guy,

497
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Speaker 1: Ken is going to come in and just get rid

498
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Speaker 1: of that snap, crackle and pop that's going on. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm still gonna have Islam at number one spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: But Luke, do you think it's I if I could

501
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Speaker 1: speak like too cheesy, would they get I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, how big is your erection. How could

503
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Speaker 1: could this man be number one right now based on that,

504
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Speaker 1: based on on this year, based on where we're at

505
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Speaker 1: right now. Islam's not overly active, is he right now?

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Speaker 4: No, he's not, although he's not been in act. His

507
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: year wasn't as good as Volks. So there's excuse me

508
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Speaker 4: for Toporia. So there's that. I'm a little hesitant to

509
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Speaker 4: put him pound for pound number one. I still feel

510
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Speaker 4: like the body of work over all for Islam has

511
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Speaker 4: been a little bit better. This is just a little

512
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Speaker 4: bit more to it. I think Ilia needs to get

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Speaker 4: another win over a top contender or somebody else that

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Speaker 4: the public would recognize as somebody else who is a

515
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Speaker 4: credible challenge and or a somebody on that pound for

516
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Speaker 4: pound list in.

517
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Speaker 5: Order for that to really happen. But I'll say this,

518
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Speaker 5: he's number two.

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Speaker 1: This is going to speed up UFC getting into Spain.

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Speaker 1: Before the fight, Dana said, we're looking at Barcelona and

521
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Speaker 1: Madrid and we want to be there at some point

522
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Speaker 1: in twenty five. Is Ilia Taporia's next fight on Spanish soil.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how it's not right, and other than

524
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Speaker 4: if there's a logistical challenge, right, because they can't find

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Speaker 4: the right venue. We've kind of discussed this before. I'm

526
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Speaker 4: not saying you couldn't take Ila Toporia to Spain, but

527
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Speaker 4: it's a little It starts to do a Barcelona, but

528
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Speaker 4: it's a little weird to do that. It's not quite

529
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Speaker 4: as straightforward as some folks might think, but I do

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Speaker 4: think it happens. And the basic reason is this. I

531
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Speaker 4: know that they wanted him to fight Vulcan at UFC

532
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Speaker 4: three twelve. That's a hell of a turnaround. I mean,

533
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Speaker 4: it wasn't a super brutal fight, but I imagine he's

534
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Speaker 4: gonna want something.

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Speaker 1: At his star love Lie. I'm not accepting that.

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Speaker 4: Also, you have to fly to fucking Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you said, I'm not going in his backyard.

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Speaker 4: Devin Haney did it against Cambosis because it made sense

539
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Speaker 4: at the.

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Speaker 1: Time because the money was coming from Australian paper.

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Speaker 4: And the belts. The guy had the belts. You wanted

542
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Speaker 4: to go do that. There was a rematch clause. Okay,

543
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Speaker 4: I understand that, but that none of those factors are

544
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Speaker 4: really in play here. And it seems to me it's like, dude,

545
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Speaker 4: you've got a guy here, be very clear about it.

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Speaker 4: This is the moment right now, Right now is the

547
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Speaker 4: moment to make good on the star potential of Ilia Taporia.

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Speaker 1: That's a perfect tease to get us into the next topic,

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Speaker 1: which we will in a second. But one more thing.

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Speaker 1: Can you show the video of Toporia walking back with

551
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Speaker 1: his lovely lady and the belts on his shoulder. I

552
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Speaker 1: mentioned I'm not seeing many missteps from Tuporia publicly except

553
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Speaker 1: for maybe that one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like this all.

555
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Speaker 1: Dump that fake ass ww shit in the trash. Like

556
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Speaker 1: I know, Dana said afterwards that Dana now regrets not

557
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: putting the BMF title online, and you definitely could have.

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Speaker 1: I feel I actually align with Dana's original statement. Real

559
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Speaker 1: title fights don't involve BMF. But I get the symbolism

560
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Speaker 1: of what your boys trying to say by wearing that,

561
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Speaker 1: but it almost downgrades what was like one of the

562
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Speaker 1: greatest breakthrough performances I've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 5: I didn't like it at all.

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Speaker 4: Again, of all the missteps I've seen, this one to

565
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: me was very annoying. And I know he did say

566
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Speaker 4: nice things about Max Holloway after the fight, and I

567
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Speaker 4: genuinely believe he does understand Max Holloway is a legitimate,

568
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Speaker 4: credentialed opponent of the highest order, but going and wearing

569
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Speaker 4: that belt like that when you just Kota guy to

570
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: me is very disrespectful to Max Holloway.

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Speaker 1: Also, you're above that, you're a champion. Now you should

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Speaker 1: be calling out the next champions, which he did and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to But like f the BMF, you're the

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Speaker 1: legitimate changer.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: It bothered me.

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Speaker 1: Actually, the idea though of maximizing the star power now

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Speaker 1: of a guy who could legitimately be the successor to

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Speaker 1: Connor McGregor and the lineage of sort of face of

582
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Speaker 1: the franchise. Let's talk about topic number two, the idea

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Speaker 1: of who should not only be next for Ilia but

584
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Speaker 1: also for Max. We'll get to that. But although Dana

585
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: White appears to be dead set on booking Alexander Volkanowski

586
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Speaker 1: next in the title rematch for to pour In, we'll

587
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Speaker 1: get to the why in a second. Luke, the question

588
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, is is it time

589
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: for UFC Brass to think bigger for Ilia about his

590
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: next fight? Considering everything I said about the next star.

591
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Speaker 1: And consider this in this modern era of UFC, where

592
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Speaker 1: the financial focus is different, and people can argue that's

593
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Speaker 1: why we don't see as many crossover stars anymore. Luke,

594
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Speaker 1: He's not only the one that breaks that mold, but

595
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Speaker 1: he breaks the mold because he can advance into markets

596
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Speaker 1: that they that they want to get in badly, like

597
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Speaker 1: Spain that they've never been before, maybe even Georgia. If

598
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Speaker 1: we keep seeing more great Georgian fighters break out of there,

599
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Speaker 1: is it time now to look beyond the featherweight division,

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Speaker 1: even though he's only one title defense in given, we've

601
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Speaker 1: got something close to another Connor. I mean, I'm not

602
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Speaker 1: comparing the numbers. I'm just saying we've got a spark

603
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Speaker 1: that is as fresh and real as any star on

604
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Speaker 1: the rise we've seen in a long time.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you I don't even I mean, the

606
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: Connor comparisons are inevitable. It's one forty five. He did

607
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: the belt snatching, The tattoos look similar, like. I get

608
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: the Connor comparisons. And even though one I'm about to

609
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: say doesn't really make sense because of some other issues

610
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Speaker 4: that Ilia has had, but to me, the way in

611
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Speaker 4: which he mowed through the top of one forty five

612
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Speaker 4: the way he did BC. It's much more John Jones

613
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Speaker 4: than anything else. Connor never defended the one forty five

614
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Speaker 4: belt was this was the title defense of ILIA and he,

615
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Speaker 4: by the way, knocked down Max Holloway first got to

616
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Speaker 4: do that and then knocked him out first got to

617
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Speaker 4: do that. He did both of those achievements. You can't

618
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Speaker 4: lose sight of that. I really disagree that this is

619
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Speaker 4: more Connor. To me, it's a little Connor.

620
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Speaker 1: It's actually more well, it's more just because Connor was

621
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Speaker 1: the last so it's like this we're.

622
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Speaker 4: Watching, I mean in terms of like what he's doing

623
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Speaker 4: to the division. Sure, it reminds me much more of

624
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 4: what Jones did on his rise. Now that being said,

625
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Speaker 4: I listen, there's no Dini gnaying that a Toporia versus

626
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: Islam fight is wanted by the fans. And the job

627
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 4: of any promoter is quite basic, but sometimes difficult, but basic. Nonetheless,

628
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: put on fights that people want to pay money to see.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

630
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Speaker 4: That's why Netflix and MVP is putting on Jake Paul

631
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: versus Mike Tyson. It's a stupid fight, but people want

632
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: to pay money to see it. And therefore it will

633
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: get made for that reason. BC, you could make that fight,

634
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: and you could also make the case we already know

635
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Speaker 4: that Taporia's power carries up to fifty five because of

636
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: the Jai Herbert fight. It's not difficult to make an

637
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: argument to say could Taporia win that? Does he have

638
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: a legitimate chance at winning that? I think he does.

639
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: I think most people now at this point would say

640
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: he's a real threat to Islam. I don't want to

641
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: see that fight next. I really disagree with that for

642
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: a couple of reasons. One, are we really going to

643
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Speaker 4: have three super fights for Islam Makachev all be against

644
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 4: forty five ors?

645
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: That's a great point.

646
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Speaker 4: I mean that seems a little bit much to me.

647
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: He had two Volkanovski fights now to Poria. If they

648
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: make it seems much more. I would rather see if

649
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: it happens Islam Makachev versus shot Cut Rockmanov. That to

650
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: me is a lot more fun. I don't know if

651
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: that fight makes sense either.

652
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: You mean, provided chove Cup beats again, provided we get.

653
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Speaker 5: To a place where shot Cut is the champion.

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Speaker 4: So that's the first thing I'd say, I just how

655
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 4: many times is he gonna fight forty five vers before

656
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: we've had enough. Second, of all, guys, I think people

657
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: are very much discounting how tough the forty five contenders are.

658
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens between most art I Loy and

659
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 4: al Jamin Sterling. That might not be the sexiest fight

660
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: whoever wins that one to get to Taporia, but that's

661
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: a tough fight either way. Sure. More to the point,

662
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: you got Vulk waiting in the wings. More to the point,

663
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: Diego Lopez has a date with Destiny too, And I

664
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: don't think he's quite the fighter that Eliot Taporia is,

665
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: but he doesn't have to be. He's dangerous as shit everywhere.

666
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: That to me, And he has two fan bases in

667
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: a sense because he's Brazilian, but he fights out of

668
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: it in representation.

669
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: Now, they can put that fight on any kind of

670
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: Mexican holiday because they both speak Spanish. Obviously one's Brazilian

671
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: and lives in Mexico.

672
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: So with a semi adopted.

673
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: Ilias not I has been adopted too, well, they're not

674
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: gonna adopt the Spanish guy, but he is capable of

675
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: engaging with Latin American media in a way that can

676
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: boost profiles that to me is the fight to make.

677
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: You could do the vocal one if you want to

678
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: do again.

679
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure what the appetite is now that

680
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: you've seen what he can do to Max Holloway. But

681
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: the idea that we're just gonna like fuck off on

682
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: all these like really good featherweight contenders and frankly, let's

683
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: be clear, really good featherweight fights important fights, like when

684
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: you accept the belt. What you are saying is, I'm

685
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: going to give this next contender a shot at it.

686
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: By being active, I'm going to keep the division in motion.

687
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: And right now, b see, would you not agree? It's

688
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: like it's all jumbled at the top. You got Max,

689
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: you got Lopez, you got again this semi ish number

690
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: one contenders fight between Stirling and Vloye, and all of

691
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: those guys are dangerous, all of those guys are good,

692
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: all of those fights are good. What is the rush exactly?

693
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Because it's rare to get somebody that's this red hot,

694
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: with this much buzz who can be potentially both things

695
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: at once, your biggest face in the franchise, biggest pay

696
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: per view star, and your best fighter at the same time.

697
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: This is a spirit of something coming that we haven't

698
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: felt since Connor. And what did Connor do as soon

699
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: as he knocked out Josie although he was looking north

700
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: business wise, Let's move up, Let's fight our da next,

701
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: a fight that didn't happen, but that was the direction

702
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: he went ended up with two nads fights. But Luke,

703
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: it goes against everything I want in a sense, because

704
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm sick of every time somebody wins. The title of

705
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: the next conversation is should they move up right away

706
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: and try to become champ chap because it becomes almost

707
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: like one championship where that's probably more gimmick heavy to

708
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: have interesting main events, but they just constantly throw their

709
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: champions against one another. But I just think Ilia is

710
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: of that rare mix where when I see him talking

711
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: trash to Connor McGregor and we're going to show that

712
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: in a second, I'm like, I kind of want some

713
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: stupid crossover fight like that. I kind of want to

714
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: see the fan in me, not the journalist in me,

715
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: not anything like that. The fan in me right now

716
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: is so blown away at what Alia just did that

717
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: my first thought is can you do that against Islam?

718
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: And it goes against everything that we don't want, which

719
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: is what you said, Machev fighting only people moving up

720
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: and wait, champion versus champion unnecessarily, unnecessarily. But when you've

721
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: got a star of this potential and magnitude, I not

722
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: only rush him to Spain. I'm literally thinking, now, Luke Thomas,

723
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: what is the biggest B side I can put him

724
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: in with? Even if UFC doesn't think like that anymore,

725
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Even if it's not about one big pay per view

726
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: overachieving and carrying them financially for six months, it's not

727
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: about that. That's not the model anymore. But that is

728
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: what sparks interest in casual fans. In sparks a new revolution.

729
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: They have to realize what they have here in this

730
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: potential star. I just think if anyone would break, there'd

731
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: be reason to break all the rules. It's your guy

732
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: right now, it.

733
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 4: Is I think you put Iliah. I mean, I guess

734
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: Volk's going to compete in Sydney right at three twelve.

735
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, I got sound to give you pieces on what

736
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: if you want, let's go to Let's go first to

737
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: Dana White on why Volks should be next.

738
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 14: Volkanovski is one of those guys We're not gonna say

739
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 14: no to Volkanowski. He's been that guy for us anytime

740
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 14: we needed him. You know, he was on this run,

741
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 14: like out of Sonya and like Alex is on right

742
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 14: now when things don't go our way and you got

743
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 14: to call a guy. Vulkanowski's always been that guy. He

744
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 14: really was, and uh, you know, for him to ask

745
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 14: for it's nobody. I don't think anybody's in this room going, oh,

746
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 14: this is ridiculous or crazy and who wouldn't want to

747
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 14: see it again.

748
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: So there's Dana saying, let's go with the company man Volkanoski,

749
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: who deserves it, but Volk's got a caveat at why

750
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: it might not be next. Let's listen, how.

751
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 6: Would you feel about going to Spain?

752
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Waiting for the fight in Spain and all of his

753
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: fans over there. Look, man, I'll be honest.

754
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: I love Sydney, you know, I'm like, I want to

755
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: fight at Sydney, but Madrid sounds good too, as long

756
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: as as long as I'm not waiting too long.

757
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: That's a big problem for me.

758
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: I just want to I would love for him to

759
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: have his moment in Spain and like, you know, we

760
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: fight there and that I just hopefully We're not waiting

761
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: years for it.

762
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: You know, that's the early problem.

763
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 6: If they could get that.

764
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Done as soon as possible, you know what I mean.

765
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: He deserves it, Vivi and me v.

766
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: So Luke. He's saying yeah, but he's also giving you

767
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: that caveat of he doesn't want to wait too long, Vulk.

768
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: He wants to just get back and be active. He's

769
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: not going to wait for Spain to open up and

770
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: pull Michael Chandler and sit.

771
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: Out, which I understand.

772
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: But Ilia, though, doesn't see me talking a lot about Vulk.

773
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Here's Ilia on Mahachev.

774
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 8: Here in a hypothetical fight against Islam. How do you

775
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 8: see that fight going if it goes to the ground,

776
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 8: do you feel confident that you could outgrapple him or

777
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 8: would you try to keep it standing.

778
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 15: In my mindset, it's always the same. I'm always looking

779
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 15: to chief things that no one could so someone could

780
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 15: submit him.

781
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: I will be the first one to submit.

782
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: Him, any specific submission.

783
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 11: Now.

784
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 15: I heard some love from some idiots, but it's going

785
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 15: to happen, dude.

786
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. When I hear him say I'll

787
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: be the first to submit Islam. The fan of me

788
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: wants to see that right now, even if it breaks

789
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: all the rules. But there's the other player involved, and

790
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: that is Connor McGregor, who put out a bunch of

791
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: tweets about that and then brought o Komodo totally about it.

792
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Here's his interesting reaction.

793
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: Did you know he tweeted about you?

794
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

795
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Connor McGregor wrote, good little fighter, too small for

796
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: anything substantial. He was getting showed up in there.

797
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 15: I don't know what to say he.

798
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you him, he's a fake.

799
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 15: He fakes to come back every time he insults everyone

800
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 15: in the UFC. He's like, I don't care about anyone.

801
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 15: I don't respect anyone. Bro, you've been sick. You have

802
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 15: some problems to fix in your in your mind. You

803
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 15: know you need to take some classes of respect to

804
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 15: have to trade to the people, because you're gonna end

805
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 15: up really really bad when when you follow this kind

806
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 15: of values in your life, you're gonna end up really bad.

807
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 15: So ask to God to don't cross the pots with

808
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 15: me never ever, because I'm we're not up when I'm gonna,

809
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 15: I'm gonna see you a little.

810
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: So Luke basically to PORI is like f off McGregor.

811
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: It seems like obviously he'd be willing to do that,

812
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: is it. We don't do that fight next, right, we

813
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: don't do that fight. I think that's not the fun.

814
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: Let's just be very clear.

815
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: Eliot's a pooria smashes Connor McGregor at this stage.

816
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like if you want to make somebody

817
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: into from an overnight star into a quadruple global star.

818
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: So that can that TV's on and we're we're hearing

819
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: the echo off of it.

820
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

821
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: All right, so you say let's stay in this division.

822
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: I would like to stop playing. Did you see what

823
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor said game, because it just seems I agree.

824
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: With Lopez Diego Lopez. I want much more than a

825
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: VOLC rematch. I don't think is going to improve on that.

826
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't.

827
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 4: I don't think he does either. He could make it

828
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: maybe go a little bit longer, depending on how things go.

829
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: But dude, and we didn't really talk about it. It's

830
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: not just a function of like, is Illly a powerful Yes,

831
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: of course he has tremendous knockout power, but it's a

832
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: little bit more than that. He has a very very patient,

833
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: but unique ability to problem solve based on what you're

834
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: giving him. Established patterns, change patterns. He's an accurate puncher.

835
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 4: But the thing I want to point like, how do

836
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: you get someone who's accurate and powerful? How do you

837
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 4: make good use of that? You have to have them

838
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: with a decent fight IQ and they have to be

839
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 4: able to problem solve based on what they've been given.

840
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter whether it's Max, it doesn't matter

841
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 4: whether it's Volkanovski. He problem solves his way into landing

842
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 4: things of significance. None of it is by accident, none

843
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: of it is fortuitous, although there was a little bit

844
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: of that because of the way Max defended, But in

845
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: general he finds targets and lands on them cleanly because

846
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: he is able to do that with solutions he's concocted

847
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: in the middle of the fight.

848
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I want to see him put on

849
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: his back by somebody like Mahachev and see him work

850
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: his way out of that. I mean, I know we

851
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: got the way, We got to take our time. We

852
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: got to see what happens here. It seems is gonna

853
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: do Vulk anyway. But will they make will they make

854
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: Ilia go to Australia? And will he accept it.

855
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he accepts that in Australia, Okay, like

856
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna make Ilia go all the way. I mean,

857
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm usually the guy that's like when fighters are like,

858
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: I'm the one who calls the shots. Now like, no,

859
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: you're not, Like, you're absolutely not. However, I do feel

860
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: like ilia is probably, I mean, because he can unlock

861
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: a new market and he just did what seemed to

862
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: me almost the impossible basically over the weekend. I feel

863
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: like they're not going to be too upset if he's like, hey,

864
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 4: I'm not going to fucking Australia. But but what they

865
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 4: might do is they might make it an interim title

866
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: for whoever headlines that vulccard.

867
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: They might do that, Oh so.

868
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: Vulk versus Diego Lopez for the interim right, which doesn't

869
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: make sense in the sense that you know your champion

870
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: is not in.

871
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the number one contender fight, but it's basically

872
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: a glorified number one contender.

873
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, there's one other name that wants to be

874
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: in the sweepstakes. Let's see the tweet here from the

875
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: living legend himself, Dustin Pourrier says, I want Max or

876
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: ilia X Luke, you would you agree that it would

877
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: make a lot more sense potentially for Dustin to fight

878
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Max next. I mean, he's not in the Ilia conversation, right.

879
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: It'd be weird for Ilia to go up to fifty

880
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: five and fight a non title fight.

881
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's not do that. Let's hear from Max

882
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: Holloway and we'll talk about what could be next for him.

883
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: He believes, Luke, a third fight with POORI is the

884
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: perfect fight, considering Dustin's talking about it being a retirement fight.

885
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 16: It's not his last fight, but I think if you

886
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 16: can be his last fight and get one back, it

887
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 16: would be said.

888
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know I wouldn't for you.

889
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: Hey, that'd be nice the Diamond sign me up, bro.

890
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 6: I love that guy. I got nothing might respect for

891
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 6: the guy, but he is up to it.

892
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 14: Oh against my ass, and I don't have the best

893
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 14: lucks I gat against me, So I guess I gotta

894
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 14: try it again.

895
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: So, Luke, I want to ask you this. Max said

896
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: afterwards in the cage that you know he'll be back

897
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: and look for the reinventions he's had the renaissances. It's

898
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: hard to doubt that even with this devastating loss. Do

899
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: you want to see Max stay in contention at one

900
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: forty five the pay per view main event, be MF

901
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: route or move up to lightweight full time? And I'll

902
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: include the Poorier fight as a possibility.

903
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 4: In this discussion. I think Max has some interesting questions

904
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: to ask himself here at this point, because here's where

905
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 4: he seems to be. To me, I do not need

906
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: to see him at forty five anymore. He can make

907
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 4: that cut, right, he can do it. Like I didn't

908
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: have any concerns that he would somehow not make weight

909
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: for this fight. You knew he would. But you know

910
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: what toll it exacts on him. He'll never tell us,

911
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: but I have a feeling it's probably significant, and I

912
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: would like to see him go to fifty five, in

913
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: particular because he won the BMF bout fifty five. I

914
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: feel like I should be defended at fifty five. Fresh matchups,

915
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: fresh matchups as well, or in this particular case, not

916
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: a fresh matchup, but a great matchup that you can

917
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: just run. It's like Pachi al Marquez, Yes, you can

918
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: just run back a number of times.

919
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: And who gives put him literally put him against all

920
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: those aging all action lightweight big names Chandler Gaygee.

921
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 4: Again, here's the thing for Max I hope that he considers,

922
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: and I know it's probably, like, you know, the last

923
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: thing he wants to hear is is you all my

924
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 4: Ilia Booso?

925
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: You dressed like Mario with a giant toporia boner. That

926
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: your last person he wants to hear.

927
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 4: I know, But in all seriousness, again, it is impossible

928
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 4: to root against Max Holloway. It's impossible to not like him.

929
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: And so what I really hope that he and his

930
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: team consider is I don't think he's done. That's really

931
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: not what I'm saying. What I am concerned about BC is,

932
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: especially if he goes to fifty five and you're going

933
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: to take on some even harder hitters at that point,

934
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 4: I think his durability will be less compromised because of

935
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: the weight cut. But I'm a little bit concerned that

936
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 4: he can go on a place where he can win

937
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 4: and lose and win and lose and stay in big fights.

938
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: But he's a He's absorbed a lot of significant strikes

939
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: in his his career. He's been doing this for a

940
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: very long time, and so I hope what he has

941
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: in mind is a clear goal about what is left,

942
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: and that it is attainable, and that if he gets

943
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: to a place where it's pretty clear that attaining that

944
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: goal is impossible, that he hangs it up.

945
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: So very clear.

946
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: What I'm saying not saying he's done, but I am

947
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: saying I don't know if he's too too far from that,

948
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: if what he cares about is preserving any kind of

949
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 4: long term health. I have watched Max hand out beatings,

950
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: and I've watched Max take them, and I've never quite

951
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: seen the one like he got on Saturday, but I've

952
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 4: seen some. The second fight against Pourier was really, really bad. Yes,

953
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: he survived because he's Max, But this is what I mean.

954
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 4: I don't have an appetite to see a bunch of those.

955
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: You don't have an appetite for destructions.

956
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: Well, I don't mind him being in tough, competitive fights.

957
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: I mean this was not Neither guy was taking a

958
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: beating in this one until Ilia landed a devastating right.

959
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: If the fight had looked the way it looked for

960
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: the first tube and a half rounds, you can fight

961
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 4: a lot of those, Sure, you know what I mean.

962
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: But what I'm not interested in seeing is more of

963
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: him stretched out. What I'm not interested in see him

964
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: is a fight where against a fifty five dominant puncher

965
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: where he can't. I mean, maybe this has changed, but

966
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: in that fight with Poortier, it was just a lot

967
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: of abuse over many rounds.

968
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 5: He was taking.

969
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: I feel like he's accomplished so much. Let's be very

970
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: clear about it. He's an automatic Hall of Famer. He's

971
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: an automatic all time great. He's a credit to the

972
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: fight game, one of the few guys you can just

973
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: actually believe is a good dude in real life. Who

974
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 4: was with me when we saw Max at his hotel

975
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: room before the fight with Vulk the two seventy six fight.

976
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody who here was that.

977
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: I think Gaff was. Gaff is with me, dude. He

978
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: could not have been more accommodating. He had his whole

979
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: team in the suite. They were all sleeping there, his

980
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 4: kid was there, his wife was like everybody. Max is

981
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: such a good dude. I don't mind him can continuing

982
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: if he's got a plan and something he can execute.

983
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to see him just fighting. I'm fighting,

984
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 4: and I.

985
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: Don't want to necessarily see him against Poorier after he's

986
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: lost the first two and coming off of a knockout loss.

987
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: So Luke, the fight to make is easy. Connor versus Max,

988
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Part two BMF title on the line. I take that

989
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Max coming off of a knockout loss, like against a

990
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: bigger fighter. Let's do this right. You're gonna have to

991
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: fight at some bigger Catchwaight or whatever whatever Connor can make,

992
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? This provided Connor can stop

993
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: this three hundred and sixty five day streak that we've

994
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: talked about. Lou Garrett, Yeah, I don't know if he can,

995
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: but this is really the perfect matchup for both. But

996
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: that's just me talking there. Let's go to topic number three,

997
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: speaking of dominant performances. Good lord, remember when I picked

998
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker by knockout because I thought Hamzad just couldn't

999
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: get his ish together. I'll take that one, humble pie. Indeed,

1000
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: Hamzad silence critics in a big way by breaking Robert

1001
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: Whittaker's jaw and getting an early tap out in round

1002
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: one after taking him down fourteen seconds into it. We

1003
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: never got to see what what bloody what bloody knuckles?

1004
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Rob there? What's his nickname that he hates Bobby Knuckles.

1005
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't like that though.

1006
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: Every time I know he's like, I'm the Reaper.

1007
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but Luke. Although Jemaiah entered as the

1008
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: number thirteenth ranked middleweight, was this the performance against a

1009
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: former champion, a living legend, dominant enough that you would

1010
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: sign off on him cutting the line even past Sean

1011
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Strickland to get the next shot at Drickistuple Steve for

1012
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: the title.

1013
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 4: Yes, so you talked me in. It's my fall because

1014
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: I agreed. I'm not blaming you, but you did talk.

1015
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: You convincingly talked me into picking Whitaker instead of Hamzat

1016
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: on Friday Show, which blew up in both of our faces.

1017
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Luckily it didn't blow them my wallet, but yeah, our faces.

1018
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: It was as one sided as can be.

1019
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: I just listen. It's not like the argument is not

1020
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: Hamzat has a great case and Strickland does it. That's

1021
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: really not the argument. Strickland had a very close fight

1022
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: with him, had a rebound fight against Paula Costa that

1023
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 4: was also not very interesting, but he won it. And again,

1024
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: if you want to go back and watch the fight

1025
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: between DDP and Strickland, it's not hard to score three

1026
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: rounds for Strickland. You can do it. It's the basic question.

1027
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: Can you find three rounds for him? Yes, you can,

1028
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: You absolutely can. So in that case, he's got a

1029
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: strong argument. However, Homzot just blew past Robert Whittaker in

1030
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 4: a way that no one has not wonder Boy Thompson,

1031
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: which was all the day back at one seventy, not

1032
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 4: even his destruct he stopped them in the first fight,

1033
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: and it didn't look quite like this. He ran through

1034
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: He ran through him. He ran through him like diarrhea.

1035
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just, I mean it was wow.

1036
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: I'm just man, I'm being I'm being facetious. But Whittaker

1037
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: offered almost no real resistance. I mean, he did a

1038
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: little bit to stay alive, but he just got crushed

1039
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: in the It was it was the Timan square tank

1040
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: versus the guy you know in front of him.

1041
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: It was, well, you got a lot of these today.

1042
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: You're like Moronello over here, Okay.

1043
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 4: But how do you describe somebody who is an all

1044
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 4: time great at middle eight, a former champion looking like

1045
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: Hamsa was fighting you or me out there? Yeah, I

1046
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 4: mean he he I'll say this quite honestly, and I

1047
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: don't mean it just because his teeth got messed up.

1048
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: Even before we saw that that Robert Whittaker, Hamzad made

1049
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: him unrecognizable. He made him absolutely unrecognizable, and how he

1050
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: just bodied him. And so you've got this guy now,

1051
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: I don't know what his VC issues are this week,

1052
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: he did check that it is.

1053
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, fighters say lots of things.

1054
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Dana's also confirmed that not I mean, data doesn't Dana

1055
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: doesn't say he did.

1056
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 5: He confirm it.

1057
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: He didn't really confirm it to me. But things could

1058
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: have changed recently, and again, depending on who wins the

1059
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: presidential election next week, there could be a big change

1060
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: that happens anyway. So there are some questions about where

1061
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: any potential fight with Hamzat would be and on what schedule,

1062
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: and that does create some complications. But just to like

1063
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: fight for fight, HOMASOT versus DDP.

1064
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 5: Is a fresh matchup.

1065
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a highly interesting matchup. And what I

1066
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 4: want to really get back to is did you get

1067
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: clear answers about some of the questions that we had

1068
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: around Hamzad. No, you didn't know, But isn't that.

1069
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: More exciting when you don't When somebody can get all

1070
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: the way to the title level without having answered all

1071
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: those questions like Connor on that rise.

1072
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: This is what I mean. It's like I often make

1073
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: this point where you'll see someone come off the regional

1074
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 4: scene and they'll have seven fights and it's all first

1075
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: round KOs and someone will be like, isn't this guy great?

1076
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: And he'll be like, yes, he obviously great, but he

1077
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: hasn't fought anybody. And yes, some of Hamsa fights, like

1078
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: the Gilbert fight and the Kamora fight, they went the distance,

1079
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: but in general, he's beating guys, former champions, all time

1080
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: greats in his weight class like they're nothing. It's a

1081
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: fresh matchup, it's an interesting challenge, and DDP looks to

1082
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: me like he might have something for him that can

1083
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: get us some answers in that third, fourth, potentially fifth one.

1084
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: To me, it's actually a slam dunk. Even though that's

1085
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: tough on Sean Strickland for everything you said, but we

1086
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: already almost missed out on this this phenomenon that is

1087
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Hamza when he's healthy. I don't know if we have

1088
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: to put him in that category of motivated Bjay and

1089
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Bell for it, Like, look, I can't really

1090
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: explain how Hamza can be so up and down all

1091
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: the time with health, with everything, and then just turn

1092
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: up and absolutely kick the shit out of people regardless

1093
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: of their status or resume or history like he does.

1094
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: But he does, you take advantage of that. This guy

1095
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: is one of the rare guys in the roster that

1096
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: you're like pay per view headliner will carry numbers every

1097
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: time Luke. He moves numbers on everything he touches. Remember

1098
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: we did that Gilbert Burns interview ahead of that fight,

1099
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: and that thing did monster traffic. It did that because

1100
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: of Tamaiya. He's that bad guy at the end of

1101
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: the movie who can if you can put a belt

1102
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: around him in any division, you do that. Now is

1103
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: the time nobody expected that he ran right through him.

1104
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: Let's hear from a doctor. This is David Abbassi, an

1105
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: orthopedic surgeon, breaking down just what happened there to Whittaker.

1106
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 11: If you guys weren't already terrified of this guy kamzat Kamaia,

1107
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 11: you could see what he did to Robert Whittaker's.

1108
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 4: Lower teeth and mandible.

1109
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: A lot of confusion over the early.

1110
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 11: Tap by Robert Whittaker right off the rear naked choke.

1111
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 11: But DC then shows this photograph of the aftermath of

1112
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 11: what happened to Robert Whittaker's You could see those teeth

1113
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 11: are basically floating back there. Our lower jawl line is

1114
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 11: composed of this phone called the mandible, and likely he

1115
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 11: has a fracture, probably two fracture lines, which causes this.

1116
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 6: Piece to then go floating.

1117
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 11: You can see the forums there below basically cracking and

1118
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 11: destroying that jaw backwards. This is an unstable mandible fracture

1119
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 11: which will require fixation with plates and screws where they'll

1120
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 11: make an incision right here, peel back that lip and

1121
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 11: then realign the bones and fix it with plates and screws.

1122
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 11: All the best of Robert Wadegar.

1123
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: But dang come I as an animal.

1124
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: Now, Luke, you would tell me of a Whitaker interview

1125
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: where he would say that was a some like an

1126
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: injury he had as a child.

1127
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 5: Someone caught him outside the hotel in Abu Dhabi.

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00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: What he basically said was he had some He didn't elaborate,

1129
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: but he had some kind of an injury when he

1130
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 4: was a kid, and it was basically fine until the

1131
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: drinkest fight Drick has fucked him up too, and I

1132
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 4: guess whatever they had done to hold it together was

1133
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: quite literally just holding it together.

1134
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 5: And now it's all.

1135
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: Shits, just crazy fucked up the way did when you

1136
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: shut your snot rockets?

1137
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: Did you hit my my I shot this way. I

1138
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: had to shoot a booger out of my nose. My

1139
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 4: wife gets so bitter when I just do this on

1140
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: the ground.

1141
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a cochino as shit right now. Look this

1142
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: Jemaiah finished got everybody excited, including out Do Rosick by

1143
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: the way, but including Dana White, who came running to

1144
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: jimaiev cage side. Here there's there's Rosick by the way.

1145
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: He was in the same building as Hosbula and they

1146
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: didn't fight to the death. I mean, did you see

1147
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Dana run him down and hug him. Dana knows what

1148
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: he has here in this guy looking a special. But

1149
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you that question that I

1150
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: couldn't answer before.

1151
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: Two of his cornermen were Ramzan Kadirov's kids.

1152
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: And that is that's confirmed, that's the true fact.

1153
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like dude, you've got a guy who is

1154
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: a and I've seen people be like dude, U uh

1155
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 4: Ramzon just an ordinary run of the mill politician. Does

1156
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: your mayor round up people and slaughter them and exile

1157
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: them from the city by through force of military action?

1158
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Is he banned for the US treachery from doing business

1159
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 4: in the country or or are you just a fucking

1160
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 4: idiot who says random things on Twitter?

1161
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Okay, before I carry on, though, what is your confidence

1162
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: considering Chamaiav's up and down last few years with inactivity, injuries, illnesses,

1163
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: potential visa issues, everything that we talk about, the weight

1164
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: miss against Nate, all the inconsistency, his son's surgery of

1165
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: late would seem to really, you know, pull him in

1166
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: emotionally and challenge him. Is this something that he can

1167
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: sustain him being at his very best? Is it sustainable

1168
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: in the UFC right now?

1169
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: Again, we didn't get answers to all of the questions

1170
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: critical questions that we need, but I felt like something

1171
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: similar with Ilio Taporia. If you're gonna do something with

1172
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 4: this guy, do it, do.

1173
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: It now, light the match. We'll see what happens next. Hey,

1174
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: let's hear from Tremaia if he was asked how his

1175
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: grappling would fare against the champion dupola.

1176
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: See I get your.

1177
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 14: Thoughts on Drica's as a champion has run so far,

1178
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 14: and what do you make of his grappling?

1179
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: But do you think how I done with this guy?

1180
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 4: How he done?

1181
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 11: Rob took him down?

1182
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 8: So Rob took him down?

1183
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: So there is.

1184
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Look if they made that fight next, is this time

1185
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: of one way finished potentially in play for CHAMIAV against DDP.

1186
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to predict who wins, but is

1187
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: this possible? Can he reproduce what he did to Whittaker

1188
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: to DDP? Considering when they fought, Whittaker took him down

1189
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: and they've sort of traded big grappling moments.

1190
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 5: Again, we just didn't get answers to all of these questions.

1191
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: But grappling wise, could he hold that dominance over.

1192
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 5: DDP like that? I think he can do that to anybody.

1193
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: But but if Whittaker doesn't have that injury, how much

1194
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: longer could he have maintained? Let's especially have to ask yourself.

1195
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: And two, you know does DDP have that? I don't know,

1196
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 4: but do DDP? We've said it before, It's there's not

1197
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: he even said it is there is there a method

1198
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: to his madness? Not really, but he finds ways to win. Also,

1199
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: how about this Hamzak could end up beating DDP. And

1200
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: then there's the bow Nickel factor, which he's still far away.

1201
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: We don't really know where that is, but you would

1202
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: at least think like he's got something for him in

1203
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: that department. However, CHAMAIAV has got big power as well,

1204
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 4: but he's eventually going to find someone who can take

1205
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: him pass the third round. And what that looks like

1206
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 4: is honestly anybody's guests.

1207
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about stupid break glass fights for Taporia

1208
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: giving his stardom and talking about Connor, then I guess

1209
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: we should talk about this absurd fight that I never

1210
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: considered until now. Here's Tremaiah of talking about Poeton Luke.

1211
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 8: Todder One looking like, do you want to clear out

1212
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 8: the middleweight division or would you prefer to sort of

1213
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 8: go up to light heavyweight and challenge Alex perro m bro.

1214
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 15: I talk about three belts from a long time ago,

1215
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 15: so of course I want to go up.

1216
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: And but.

1217
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 5: What then?

1218
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: And White?

1219
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 3: What do you see once?

1220
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, So if that gives me first,

1221
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 6: I as a in my weight class, need to take

1222
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 6: the belt.

1223
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: So then I gonna think about it as well.

1224
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't put him in a light heavyweight

1225
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: title fight when he hasn't fought for the middleweight title yet.

1226
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: But I hadn't even thought of that. Do you love

1227
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: his just no hesitation? I will take that guy down

1228
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: to and beat the shut up? I mean, because that's

1229
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: a style contrast, that is a that is insane. I know,

1230
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: of course it'd be interesting, damn. But one thing at

1231
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: a time, video.

1232
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 5: One thing at a time. But here's the question.

1233
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: If he doesn't end up fighting DDP, what do you

1234
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: do with Hamzad?

1235
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 5: Who does he fight?

1236
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: In that instance? Weng Island, Luke, I'm Dana White right now,

1237
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: and I say, okay, we're gonna do Sean DDP two.

1238
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 4: Tell me who you think should Hamzad should fight next?

1239
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: What do you say?

1240
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 5: Say it?

1241
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: Bo Nickel? After he beats Paul? Is he? Dude?

1242
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: Is he's out there now?

1243
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: See?

1244
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: Because a bullet thing there too.

1245
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 9: If I'm Data White, I'm giving hams out the title

1246
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 9: shot right now, and I'm doing is he Sean too?

1247
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: In Sydney?

1248
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: That is the right call. That's the right call right there,

1249
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke is damn right it's a great strickling

1250
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: out of Sonia. It could be the Comaine for that.

1251
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: It could also be its own in my opinion, it

1252
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: could be almost its own pay per view main event

1253
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: without a title. I know that you don't love that.

1254
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: Does Sean take that a comaine?

1255
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's five rounds but no pay per viewpoint, oh,

1256
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 4: he wouldn't get in because another champion. But if they say, dude,

1257
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 4: you're not getting the title shot, he'll take it. Stay

1258
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 4: in the mix.

1259
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: That is interesting. Let's see Sean's tweet about the idea

1260
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: of Jamaiah cutting him in line. Understand one thing, I

1261
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: am next in line. That has been said, It's been

1262
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: written January February. Me and DDP are scrapping go back

1263
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: to chechna on wait a few months. Wait sorry, u AE,

1264
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: you're not allowed in Chechnia. But hey, crypto scams while

1265
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: you wait. End quote. Those were the thoughts of Sean

1266
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: Strickland not necessarily.

1267
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: Likes a lot of shit that's insane. Every once in

1268
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: a while, he'll have a banger out there every.

1269
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: Once in a while.

1270
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: Honest question, though, is Tony Hinchcliff one end word away

1271
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: from being the added to the Golden Hour podcast. I

1272
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: mean that'd be a murderer's row lineup right, that'd be unbelievable, right,

1273
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, there you go, so interesting stuff in

1274
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: the middle waight yeah, in the middle way division. Hey,

1275
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: let's move on from here because.

1276
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: We do WATI with Eddie Bravo and Job.

1277
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: I did not watch.

1278
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: I did not because that hungry wolf took over the

1279
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: reddit spaces after what he didn't.

1280
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 4: It didn't make a lot of uh new. I didn't

1281
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: see a lot of clips come out of it.

1282
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't focused on it at that time,

1283
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: but I'd have to get back to you. Let's go

1284
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: to topic number four, which is Mago medankliav. Shara Bullet

1285
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: and the rest of UFC three oh eight. Luke, we

1286
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: talked about it coming in UFC Challenge Mago medan Kliev

1287
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: that if you want the next shot at Poeton, even

1288
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: though you kind of already deserved the last time, you're

1289
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to be exciting against Alexander Ratkech. Well, it

1290
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: was a hard fallt competitive, three round unanimous decision for

1291
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: an Kliev. Dana would would say afterwards that he thinks

1292
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: that's enough Luke Thomas. Is that enough to drop this

1293
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: charade and finally get Poton versus Ankliv?

1294
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I mean the reality is on Caliev. I

1295
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: don't think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably fair to say On Caliv didn't

1297
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: necessarily wow anybody on Saturday, But the response would be

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 4: number one, he didn't really need to wow anyone. He

1299
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: could have already gotten a title shot based on what

1300
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: he had done even prior to UFC the real eight.

1301
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 4: And then you add in that he beat a quality

1302
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: light heavyweight in Alexander Rakitch without much issue. I think

1303
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 4: is a fair way to put it. It was competitive,

1304
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 4: but not You never thought On Calive was in trouble.

1305
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: You never thought On Calive had no answer. It was

1306
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: just kind of one guy was ahead of the other

1307
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 4: one and that sort of stayed that way for the

1308
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 4: vast majority of it.

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 5: So that's the guy that's deserving, and I think that's

1310
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 5: pretty fair.

1311
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: However, the question that I would ask back to UBC

1312
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 4: and then was the one that I was asking myself,

1313
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 4: was when you were watching this, did you see anyone

1314
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: there who you thought gave real problems to alex Padta,

1315
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: Which is not the reason to grant or not grant

1316
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 4: a title shot, but just a separate question.

1317
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you see that, I didn't. But also, Alexander Rakitch,

1318
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: I think even with three consecutive losses, is truly e laite.

1319
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: I mean Long Island.

1320
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: Look, were you making some backdoor argument that you thought

1321
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: Racket sure got the decision?

1322
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, he won round one and all three judges scorecards.

1323
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 9: I thought maybe one of those other rounds could have gone.

1324
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: I can't go that far. It was competitive, But to

1325
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: answer your question, no, it didn't scream that. But in

1326
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: some ways, even when the UFC's warning this was really

1327
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: only going to be about survive in advance, get the wind,

1328
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: no matter what to ankle lives credit. He did push

1329
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: the pace. He was constantly looking to go forward. It

1330
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: wasn't overly exciting in my opinion, because Rackets is a

1331
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: tough ass out who was in there trying just as

1332
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: hard and badly needed a win. It's just, I mean,

1333
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: this guy's unbeaten. I know there's draws and no contest,

1334
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: and everybody's unbeaten in like thirteen or fourteen fights in

1335
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: a row now hasn't lost since that UFC debut to

1336
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: Paul Craig, Let's go, it's Ankle live time.

1337
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 4: Now he has which was such a bad and he's

1338
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: been a donk.

1339
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: At times, and and do I think that. Look, I

1340
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be exciting for him in

1341
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: any fight unless it's against somebody that's really making an

1342
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: action fight. I just think that's kind of how he is.

1343
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: Luke Okay, I think he is a threat for Poton,

1344
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: But I'm starting to come off the idea, maybe because

1345
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: Brent brook House won't stop shaming me that that this

1346
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: is the trap fight, you know, at the end of it,

1347
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: I just want to see no, no, he's he's against

1348
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: me or anyone trying to frame it as because he's

1349
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: just not wrestling anymore.

1350
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 13: Now.

1351
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: I think in this fight it worked out good that

1352
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: he didn't wrestle. He gave himself the best chance to

1353
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: win over the bosses. Let's hear from that boss first.

1354
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Let's hear Dana White on this.

1355
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 7: To go back to ank Calive. He promised coming into

1356
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 7: this fight he wouldn't shoot a single takedown.

1357
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 5: He didn't do it.

1358
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 7: Is this enough to get Alex Prayerr his title fight?

1359
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 7: It's the second longest on beat and streak in the

1360
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 7: history of this division behind John Jones, I would have

1361
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 7: to say yes, well.

1362
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Very subtle there from Dana, no wasted words, just right

1363
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: to the point. I appreciate that it is. It's time,

1364
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: We're going to get that fight. We'll see what happens now. Look,

1365
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Ank Calive, do you think he'll okay? He hasn't wrestled

1366
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: in a long time, to be very fair, he hasn't

1367
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: attempted more than what two takedowns in.

1368
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 4: A long time, or even one takedown he can't remember

1369
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: the last time.

1370
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: Will he try that aggressively against Prayer? And is that

1371
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: the right game plan?

1372
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: What?

1373
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: Once we get I think eventually he will, I just

1374
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 4: don't know how quickly, Like Tamaya of the bell rings

1375
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: that he's shot out of a cannon. Oh yeah, right

1376
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 4: right across on Calive, I feel like we'll take his time,

1377
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: which by the way, is fine taking your time, not

1378
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: like aggressively going after the takedown, and then you know,

1379
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 4: walking into something is probably a great idea. At the

1380
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: same time, that's not the question. The question is is

1381
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 4: he going to wrestle an appropriate amount that where he

1382
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: might have an advantage to put someone like Patta on

1383
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: the defense. And I don't again, this is the thing

1384
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 4: I was watching. Did he put in a competent, fine

1385
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 4: performance against rackets? Yes, it wasn't really impressive. It didn't

1386
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 4: really show me a lot that I could hang my

1387
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: hat on and be like, oh, that's something he's going

1388
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 4: to definitely give Potons some problems with.

1389
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he can look dominant against you know, sometimes

1390
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: mid tier or BB plus level guys, but I don't

1391
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: think he's going to have that those moments against Poet.

1392
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: You got to be perfect against Poton, you make that

1393
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: one mistake, and.

1394
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it to be perfect, but you have

1395
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: to put him on the defense. And most guys want

1396
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: to play the fifty to fifty game with him, and

1397
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: I just don't understand why they keep Khalil Roundtree is

1398
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 4: different because his fifty to fifty shot was also in

1399
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: the striking and for a while that was going quite

1400
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 4: well for him. He just couldn't sustain it. But I

1401
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: just don't understand what it would be for a guy

1402
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 4: like on Calive. He doesn't have Khalil's speed or explosivity,

1403
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 4: knockout power. You got to mix it up.

1404
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: We'll see it's gonna be an interesting fight. I do

1405
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: look forward to it because I want to see someone

1406
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: try to take down Don't you want to see that?

1407
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: You want to see him have.

1408
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 4: To deal with that on Caliev does have skills to

1409
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 4: at a bare minimum, give Poeton problems and I.

1410
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Think beat him definitely could beat him.

1411
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: Yes, whether he can put it all together in a

1412
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: single performance, I don't know, but to your point, he's

1413
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: earned it, and that's why you got to.

1414
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 5: Make the fight.

1415
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: That's it. Look from the standpoint of viral KOs, just

1416
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: how good was Shara Bullet Maga Medoff's double spinning back

1417
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: vist Ko when he was blocked by arm and Petrojian

1418
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: yet spun off the other shoulder to deliver that. I mean,

1419
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: is that going to be added to that UFC highlight

1420
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: reel that plays with Baba O'Reilly by the Who when

1421
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: you're sitting in the arena and they're getting you all

1422
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: fired up before the start.

1423
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 5: Of the We'll say this.

1424
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 4: I've been hard on Shara because I thought some of

1425
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: the hype was a little bit much. I still think

1426
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 4: some of the hype doesn't quite match exactly where he's at.

1427
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets hit, you believe that he gets hit,

1428
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: and he.

1429
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 5: Was fighting a guy.

1430
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, Arma Petrosian was driving me nuts in

1431
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 4: this fight. He does something I call jousting, or if

1432
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 4: you look at like Max or Ilia, they're fainting a lot, right,

1433
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 4: they're giving you a look to get a reaction, and

1434
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: they're changing it up. Fucking army Petrosian just.

1435
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: Walks right in.

1436
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: I call it jousting, where he just they just they just.

1437
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 5: Wait a second, they wait a second, and then they go.

1438
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: They don't ever set it up, and so eventually, to

1439
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 4: his credit, Shara was waiting on it, waiting on it

1440
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 4: and then timing him every single time his.

1441
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: Right hands when he times you are big, like that's

1442
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: a legitimate.

1443
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 5: You set it up for him.

1444
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 4: He's got the counter fighting in that particular case to

1445
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: do really well. That double spinning backfist was fucking awesome.

1446
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 4: I can't insane. You can't. So you could say whatever

1447
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: else you want about the guy that was sick, and

1448
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: I give him credit for that's an all time highlight ring.

1449
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: He's very unproven despite four no although he does have

1450
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: a couple of pretty good wins in this for you know,

1451
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 1: Bruno Silvan's debut one of them. But now at thirty

1452
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: years old, We're not talking about give this guy a ranking.

1453
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: He's talking about out of Sonya. He called him out

1454
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: in the cage afterwards, And here is Shara Bullet saying

1455
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more about out of Sonia.

1456
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 17: At the post presser, you called out Israeli a Sonya

1457
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 17: and declared yourself the best striker in the division. I'm

1458
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 17: curious when you break down on Israel, do you see

1459
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 17: a lot of holes and techniques that you could take

1460
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 17: advantage of? And I would assume if you fought him,

1461
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 17: it would be a five round main event, possibly a

1462
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 17: fight night. Obviously, the USC is going to Saudi Arabia

1463
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 17: next year. Is that a date that you have circled

1464
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 17: as a possible match up against Israel if they do

1465
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 17: offer it to you.

1466
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to.

1467
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 10: Chase Israel design and when he fought kickboxing in China,

1468
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 10: I was fighting kickbox in China too. Now that he

1469
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 10: switched to MMA, and now that I'm here, I'm ready

1470
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 10: to capture all the land. You know, I'm ready to

1471
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 10: I'm ready to fight him, and this possibility presents himself.

1472
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 10: Are you ready to fight him in Mikawo, Saudi Arabia?

1473
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 17: It doesn't matter were they did they ever offer you

1474
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 17: a fight against Israel when you were both kickboxing?

1475
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, fighting parr. Yeah.

1476
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 10: I beat his friend inspiring partner Blood Diamond in China

1477
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 10: and I was ready to fight him. You know, Israel

1478
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 10: is very popular in China. But then he switched to

1479
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 10: MMA and signed to the UC and now I'm here too.

1480
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 7: Do you think Israel at Asnya would accept the fight

1481
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 7: with you right now? Or do you think you're gonna

1482
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 7: have to win some more?

1483
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 10: He's I'm in no Russia. I'm not trying in front

1484
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 10: of the train. You know, he's the only way for

1485
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 10: easily sign him to avoid the fighter's needs to retire.

1486
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean those are strong words, Luke, But should we

1487
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: even be talking about this fight when this guy's got

1488
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: four fights? Is he that big enough of a potential

1489
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: breakout star where anyone in the matchup room is even

1490
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation about this he's making.

1491
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 4: He's good for fun fights, he's good for exciting fights

1492
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 4: at a bare minimum. Whether he can climb the actual

1493
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: ranks by beating like really good rink guys, I don't

1494
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: know yet, but like slow the roll on, but like

1495
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: also to me, it's like Kyle Ohalio has proven a

1496
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: lot more in this division. He also called out is He.

1497
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: I could live.

1498
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not saying that's the fight to make,

1499
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 4: but I can live with that fight.

1500
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 5: That fight.

1501
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 4: That fight makes a little bit more sense to be

1502
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: given where they are. I don't hate a fight between

1503
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 4: Charlie Bullet and is He, but I don't.

1504
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: What't is He just dunk him up with the experience.

1505
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 4: And the he might he could wrestle him too, by

1506
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 4: the way, like you know, I mean, but he took

1507
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: down Poton.

1508
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 5: Don't forget that.

1509
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: So you know there's how you're oh, you're a wrestler. Now,

1510
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 4: well he did, he did? He did? You know? So

1511
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 4: this is what I mean. I'll just see this about

1512
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 4: Charlie Bullet. He is still untested against guys who aren't donks.

1513
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: I need to see it. I need to see a

1514
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: tough ass fight for him against.

1515
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 4: A non donk.

1516
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I need to see somebody.

1517
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: No more shocks, no, no, no more that one.

1518
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: Guys who have like one or two good things that

1519
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: they do, but they got a lot of problems. Give

1520
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 4: me someone who's got fewer problems, and then then then

1521
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 4: we'll talk.

1522
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

1523
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 4: On that one. Here.

1524
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: Here's is he's reaction watching at home.

1525
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 4: By the way, lived disposit.

1526
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: Keep my name out, y'all him why they fought. I mean,

1527
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: he's having fun with it. I don't think he's I

1528
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: don't think he took it all that serious. I don't

1529
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: think it's this guy needs more wins than that. Luke,

1530
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: you called it as a potential banger alert but to

1531
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: shrey Betski if I got that wrong. They called it

1532
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: rom Betsky. That's it against the other guy mocked to

1533
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: bec uh, dude, they beat the living crap. It was

1534
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of a stupid fight, but it was also like

1535
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: a blood and guts war.

1536
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 4: That fight was fucking incredible, and I thought for sure

1537
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 4: Oralby was done in that third.

1538
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: I thought one of them was gonna like have cardiac

1539
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: arrest and die in the cage.

1540
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: It was hood not believe. I mean, tough as old

1541
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 4: shoe leather. Oral By was surviving. First of all, his

1542
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 4: whole ship was closed put at the end of the

1543
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: first and then to get dropped as he did in

1544
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: the third and just completely marked up and fucked up

1545
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: and then wrestling.

1546
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: Back to his feet.

1547
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, no, I gotta say this, Ron Besky,

1548
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 4: back to back fights he had Carlos digaf a head.

1549
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 4: I think of the fight before this and then this one.

1550
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: They're giving that guy fucking taking years off of his life. Dude,

1551
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: I don't see fighting contenders.

1552
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know how old he is, but he's

1553
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: probably gonna retire in three years because of fights like this.

1554
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: That's just insane. That is like that is they both

1555
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: pushed so far past the limits to the point where

1556
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: they're just like standing there with their arms.

1557
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: I didn't even see them at each other.

1558
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: I hope they get all the bonus.

1559
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 5: They I believe they did.

1560
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: Okay, good, damn they should get. I wish if you

1561
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: reach a certain threshold of an action fight that that night,

1562
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: it's like, here's one hundred thousand, you know what I mean?

1563
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that should be the only three hundred k

1564
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: at Remember Max got six hundred k at UFC three

1565
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 4: hundred just some bonuses.

1566
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: And I've heard Rashad talk about the milk Boy's bag

1567
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: with a million and a half in there. Daniel Cormier

1568
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: has talked about that. There's a lot of that going around.

1569
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's all turns.

1570
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 4: Out they actually have to turn that into the irs,

1571
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 4: and uh, I don't know if it's the documents, it's

1572
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 4: actually not that much.

1573
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it's all irs. You know,

1574
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about like a casino business crimes at that point.

1575
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, maybe you're right.

1576
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll pull back on that, Luke.

1577
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 4: One more for you.

1578
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: They didn't give Jeff neil An RDA the featured prelim

1579
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: spot like I thought they would. It turned out to

1580
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: be a good thing, although RDA is gonna have to

1581
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: nurse off that injury. They gave it to Turkish heavyweight

1582
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: Ebo as Land, and they really hyped it up as

1583
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: a Dana White if you don't know, now you know

1584
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: type of fight against Raphael Sirkara. Fifty one seconds later,

1585
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: Ebo was screaming into the microphone that he's coming at

1586
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: on or for everyone. Luke, that was impressed as shit.

1587
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: How seriously should we be taking this guy at light? Everyway?

1588
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 5: Not very Let's wait a little while he was fighting dog, I.

1589
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: Mean, dude, dude, but that's a feature dunk fight.

1590
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 5: Though it's a future dog fight. He's got big power. Obviously.

1591
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 5: I've been waiting for someone from Turkey to kind.

1592
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: Of break is this part of them looking at we

1593
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: can get into that market with him, so let's feature him.

1594
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how big he is in Turkey. Obviously,

1595
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: Go Khansaki was a big player for that. He fought

1596
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 4: in Glory in Turkey. I believe he was on that

1597
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: Turkish show that they had that was the same show

1598
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 4: where Spong broke his shin. You remember that it was

1599
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 4: the first one of the first few times in like

1600
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 4: the modern combat sports there where someone broke their shin

1601
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: in a fight. In any case, I've been kind of

1602
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 4: waiting for like a Turkish breakout fighter. We'll see, We'll

1603
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: see he is. By the way, Eric Raskin is like

1604
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: question from a washed old guy who's out of touch

1605
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: with the current references and is especially cluse about all

1606
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: things hip hop. Who is BC dressed as? And I

1607
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 4: told him DJ cheesy?

1608
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: No, too cheesy, that's too cheesy. This ship is too cheesy.

1609
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1610
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if what we're doing is racist, but.

1611
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is celebrating Coast nineties Caucasian hip hop.

1612
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: It's a celebration prome of your life. Yeah, really right?

1613
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 4: All right?

1614
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 11: Uh?

1615
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: Anyone else? No, one else, right, you don't want to

1616
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: tell anybody else on this.

1617
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: Card, I mean Long Island.

1618
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: Look, you you think Ebo's gonna start knocking out real

1619
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: hammers or no.

1620
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 4: Nah, his other win was the pleasure Man, not the best.

1621
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 4: It's a great name, dude, I really hate that guy's nickname.

1622
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 5: Tray's a nice guy.

1623
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 4: Old. Let me look at this results thing here real

1624
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 4: quick if I may, Oh, Chris Chris Barnett sucking his

1625
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 4: leg up. Yeah, it's very unfortunate. Also, how did you

1626
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 4: score that for Kretdinov and layout Fi.

1627
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of watching it with half

1628
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: eye on it, half folded laundry, so I don't really

1629
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 1: have a say in that. But they said fuck Redanoff

1630
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: didn't deserve that. But then he went off on the

1631
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: announcers after the fight.

1632
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 5: He did.

1633
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: Also, Hafel Dosanjo's getting sucked up with an injury, yeah

1634
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 4: kind of.

1635
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's better than getting knocked out cold. But like,

1636
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys will fight forever. Those I don't know,

1637
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: these Brazilian legends, man, they can just keep going.

1638
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 4: Forty years old, Sev. That's tough.

1639
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 5: I'll just say this.

1640
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 4: I thought the combination of Cormier, Annik, and Felder. I

1641
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 4: heard and read the fewest amounts of complaints about UFC commentary.

1642
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, in the longest time I can remember. And

1643
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 4: actually we know that Annik is good. I think DC

1644
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 4: can be good. I think Felder is one of the

1645
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: best guys that they've got that combination.

1646
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: Felder knows how to be the chameleon of the broad

1647
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: every broadcast. If you're going to do a three man

1648
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: there needs to be somebody that understands I'm playing kind

1649
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: of more than one role at the same time, but

1650
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I've got to really sell for others. Compliment this, add

1651
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: on this. He's playing that that glue role.

1652
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 4: He's awesome at that job. And that's a good trio

1653
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: that they got there.

1654
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep that great work up. Too bad they have

1655
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: to call it fifteen fights over eight hours. That's a

1656
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: tough job, it really is.

1657
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 4: I hope they get paid well for it me too.

1658
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: Hey. Let's go to topic number five. And it came

1659
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: out from after UFC three h eight when Dana White

1660
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: did his post see this revelation from average Joe art.

1661
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 5: So he did one of the posters for UFC.

1662
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 1: For three eight and it was tremendous.

1663
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 4: He just tweeted us. He actually tried to add the

1664
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 4: BMF belt to the poster and they made him take

1665
01:10:59,600 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 4: it out.

1666
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: Saw the original rough draft.

1667
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I know it's wrong, all right.

1668
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: No tremendous work by him, but yeah, they didn't want

1669
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: to play up that, and I thought that was.

1670
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 5: That's fine because it wasn't on the line.

1671
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: I understand that true, all right, looke.

1672
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,440
Speaker 1: Topic number five is what we heard from Dana afterwards

1673
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: and most most particularly the escalation of this never ending

1674
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: feud with Francis and Ghanu. So Luke, I want to

1675
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: first play before I tee you up here. This was

1676
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: Francis's response that came out a couple of days ago.

1677
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: It was in response to the last time Dana dunkdow

1678
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: on Francis and after power slap this week in Abu Dhabi.

1679
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 1: Let's listen.

1680
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: I think Dana is trying to make things up to

1681
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: like buy a good face in the position that he

1682
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: have lost. Dana, I have lost this in this stitution,

1683
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: and the only thing is that he can't understand it.

1684
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: Like bro, I want everything I left Like it's been

1685
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: what almost two years, and the guy is out there.

1686
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: He can't live without it. He can't handle me like

1687
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: regardless of everything that happened, I'm not about him. I

1688
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: went out there, did a fight, great fight for my

1689
01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: son memory.

1690
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 4: But the guy is Dane.

1691
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what is his problem. But and he

1692
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 2: can make everything up as you want. That is problem.

1693
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: He needs to make a piece with himself. You could

1694
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: have just said we couldn't we didn't find an agreement

1695
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 2: or something.

1696
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 5: We couldn't find it.

1697
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we cann't come to a year.

1698
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: But good luck to him.

1699
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: That's it. Good for him, and we continue our life.

1700
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 2: What's the problem here, you know? But I think the

1701
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: problem is that he can handle this loss. He been

1702
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,839
Speaker 2: praying for my I'm sure he'd been praying for my downfall.

1703
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: Then I'm just keep doing my thing rising, you know,

1704
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: since I left the UFA, in any senses, I'm more

1705
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: than what I was. And which money he's talking about

1706
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 2: the money that he owes me. They say, oh, we're

1707
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: going to backpay you from the money that we owe

1708
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 2: you from the tipe and see your girl fight all

1709
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: that they never pay me. Now, I have made more

1710
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: money than I would have ever made in the UFC

1711
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: I was. I would say maybe twice the money that

1712
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: I could have ever made in my entire UFC career

1713
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: if I had continued in the UFC.

1714
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1715
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 2: But either way, if I have made less money, if

1716
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm not making less money, enough money that I could

1717
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: have made the US and that would be my problem.

1718
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: Why is it a piece about me no making dash

1719
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: much money? Like, come on, man, if.

1720
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: You're uh so, that was the setup, live your life.

1721
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: That was the setup. And I know anyone that gets

1722
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: any time I post anything about Twitter was like, well

1723
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: they keep asking him about it. Well, they asked Dan

1724
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: about it again after the fight's on Saturday, and here's

1725
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: his response.

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Speaker 14: Francis isn't a good guy. Plays the good guy. I

1727
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 14: don't understand the language. And you know, so he seems

1728
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 14: like he's a nice guy.

1729
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: He's not.

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Speaker 14: And he's just not a guy that I wanted to

1731
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 14: be in business with. We'll never be in business together. Ye,

1732
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 14: we don't like each other. He pulled some shit before

1733
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 14: the first Stepay fight and then Steve a beat the

1734
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 14: shit out of him. Great night. He actually actually he

1735
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 14: owes me money because we had to watch that fight

1736
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 14: with him and the Black Beast. He should actually pay

1737
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 14: me back for that fight, me praying for trust me.

1738
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 14: I don't think about Francis that much. The only one

1739
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 14: who's praying for his demise is probably the PFL, because

1740
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 14: they signed a shitty contract with a guy that doesn't

1741
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 14: deliver any numbers and ticket sales or pay per views.

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Speaker 1: So, Soluke, here's the question. Is there something about their

1743
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: business relationship that we still don't know about that went down,

1744
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: or is what Dana is doing making him the most

1745
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: petty liar and poor sport that we've ever seen in

1746
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: combat sports, Because we're going now to this guy's a

1747
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: bad guyline.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't There's just so many levels to

1749
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 4: this that I don't even really understand. It's like, why

1750
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 4: does Dana White want us to view him as a

1751
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: strong judge of character. I think he's a decent fight promoter.

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you could say the greatest of all time

1753
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be like insane.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a lot. I don't really buy that,

1755
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 4: but I he's in that conversation, I don't. But I

1756
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 4: do think that he is reasonably talented at the job,

1757
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 4: for sure. But nevertheless, you know, I don't look at

1758
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 4: fight promoters as in any particular.

1759
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 5: I mean, name one fight.

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 4: Promoter that you can think of who's a strong judge

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Speaker 4: of character, Like are these people Mother Teresa all of

1762
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 4: a sudden or you guys that do business with you know,

1763
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 4: dictatorial religious monarchies and have very questionable political affiliations. And

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 4: I could go on down the list to say nothing

1765
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 4: of his own personal indiscretions, Like, he's not a judge

1766
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 4: of character that is worth taking seriously even for a second.

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 4: So putting that aside, again, you're right, like they're asking

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01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 4: him questions and he's reacting to it. It's not like

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,839
Speaker 4: he's just going out of his way to make conversation

1770
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 4: about it. But the way in which he does react

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: to them makes it seem to me. And again I'm

1772
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: reading from Afar. I don't know the answer to that,

1773
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 4: but that he has that he's wounded by what Francis did.

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Speaker 4: That he is because angry.

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Speaker 1: Now is it because somebody beat the system, somebody beat

1776
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 1: the game? Is because he's acting like the warden shash

1777
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Ank when he reveals and finds the hole in the wall.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, well here's what you can't do. I mean, yes,

1779
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 4: Francis did get viciously knocked out by Anthony Joshua. But like,

1780
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 4: imagine if you if your argument was that, I mean,

1781
01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 4: just understand something, right, Francis has won. France has incontestably

1782
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: done not just well, really well with the choices he

1783
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 4: made after leaving the UFC.

1784
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 5: Not perfect.

1785
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 4: He did get KO that was bad, but he got

1786
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,440
Speaker 4: paid an enormous sum of money for that. He overperformed

1787
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 4: against Tyson Fury and he just put Penn and Faheda

1788
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 4: to bed.

1789
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: Got an insane contract with the PFL.

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 4: And back to that point, like PFL doesn't do numbers,

1791
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 4: but to the extent that they do anything, it's only

1792
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 4: because Francis is breathing oxygen into what they're doing. The

1793
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 4: point I want to make was, if Francis was a

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 4: spectacular failure, Dana White would be able to make an

1795
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 4: argument about Francis being a spectacular failure. Now he's trying

1796
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 4: to be like, well, he doesn't do numbers for the PFL,

1797
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 4: But I'm here to tell you, like I've seen what

1798
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 4: they've done, at least on the media side, and you're right,

1799
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 4: like they don't make PFL doesn't match UFC numbers.

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: That is true, that is very true.

1801
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 4: But to the extent that PFL does anything beyond their numbers,

1802
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 4: their standard baseline, it's because Francis is injecting life, no doubt,

1803
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 4: And so my point is, I go back to what

1804
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 4: Francis said. It's like, why do you say such venomous

1805
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: things about a guy who you appear to be glad

1806
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: he's gone? Right, Like if you know what I mean, Like,

1807
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 4: how shouldn't you be relieved that you're gone or that's

1808
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 4: gonna be that he's gone. Shouldn't you be relieved that

1809
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 4: you're no longer encumbered by his presence or business entanglements?

1810
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: And also it's like, remember he said he was gonna

1811
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 4: cut him. It's like, dude, you let Sam Alve hang

1812
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 4: around a long time and you were gonna cut Francis

1813
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 4: after two y Like, there's just a lot of things

1814
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: that don't hold up to scrutiny other than he's still

1815
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: really pissed about what Francis has done. And by the way,

1816
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: even that is okay, yeah, but.

1817
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: That was, But it's like, what is he pissed about.

1818
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: He's pissed, in my opinion, that somebody was willing to

1819
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: put their career on the line and say I'm worth

1820
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: this much and I'm gonna stand here for it. Like

1821
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: normally they can talk people out of that by talking

1822
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: bad about them and saying this guy's scared, he doesn't

1823
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: want to accept this fight, and then eventually people get

1824
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: back in line. Francis never really got back in line

1825
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: except for to play the system and beat the system

1826
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: the hardest way possible by beating Gone and unifying the

1827
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: title with one working knee or whatever happened there.

1828
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: Clearly, I think Francis's ability to do what he's done

1829
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 4: and then succeed at it, by and large, is just

1830
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 4: a source of discomfort.

1831
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like, though, that dan Witch is not

1832
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: used to having real negotiations in there, because it seems

1833
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: like all these managers are afraid and want to keep

1834
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: their relationship with.

1835
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: UFC SoC You know this, How many times have you

1836
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 4: talked to somebody who is either a promoter or at

1837
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: least on the promoter side and they had a negotiation

1838
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 4: with a fighter and they lament things that they had

1839
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 4: to give up, and they lament things that didn't that

1840
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 4: you know, we lost out on this deal or whatever.

1841
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 4: In a sport where the negotiating environment is a little

1842
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 4: bit more even you'll hear promoters talk about having to

1843
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 4: you know, take an l here and we had to

1844
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: eat shit on this particular provision and whatnot. The UFC

1845
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: operates in an environment with that is so infrequent that

1846
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 4: by the time that it actually happens, or this particular case,

1847
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: someone just moved on and got a better offer, they

1848
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: have difficulty processing it.

1849
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, And I think that's why he's got

1850
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: to make him seem like a bad guy forever.

1851
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 4: But dude, maybe, oh oh, by the way, hold on

1852
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 4: just one second. Like, I don't think you can take

1853
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 4: Dana White's assessment of character as ironclad. I don't know

1854
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: if Francis is or isn't a bad guy. But from

1855
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: what I can tell from the business side of things,

1856
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: what has he done that has like, from what we

1857
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 4: can tell against basically the information that we have, what

1858
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 4: has he done that has screamed to you unethical? That

1859
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: you hear stories behind the scenes about what a terrible

1860
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: guy he is.

1861
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: No, the only thing I get is that he actually

1862
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: aggressively negotiates and had a manager that kind of got

1863
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 1: driven out of the out of the scene because.

1864
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 4: Of that name, a manager that the UFC had to

1865
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: negotiate with and that manager played hardball with him and

1866
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 4: didn't get called a scumbag. Yes, Holly Holmes boxing manager

1867
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,959
Speaker 4: got called a scumbag. Francis's manager, Markel got called a scumbag.

1868
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: Anybody who negotiates hard against the UFC, what do they

1869
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: win or they don't? You know, they get labeled as

1870
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 4: someone who is a malcontent because the entire orientation of

1871
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 4: the argument is everything we do is right, and to

1872
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: the extent you push back on that, you're the malcol right,

1873
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 4: you know, in this entire operation, Rather than we have

1874
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: our own agency, not like William Morris, I mean, as people,

1875
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 4: we have our own agency, We have our own interests

1876
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 4: and they don't necessarily align. We're trying to get to

1877
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 4: a place where those could be more fairly e comment.

1878
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: So my final question on this is do you think

1879
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: Dana actually believes his BS though? And I'll give you

1880
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: the reason why he might because in his mind at

1881
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: the end, it's only about money. So when they gave

1882
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: Francis that huge offer for the one night payday against John,

1883
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: but then the long extended contract at a lower rate,

1884
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: in his mind, it's like you're holding me up for

1885
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: big money. So here's your big purse. Francis knew he

1886
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: could get more and was worth more, and that's why

1887
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: he is now. So do you think in Dana's mind

1888
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: he can justify saying that Francis is scared of John

1889
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: because we gave you this chance to fight him for

1890
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 1: what would have been heavyweight record money.

1891
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 4: And you said, no, yeah, this seems like a reasonable conclusion.

1892
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 4: I just think that they feel Again, you go back

1893
01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 4: to what Dana White said about Judge Bullwear. I know

1894
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 4: there was a potential settlement that was reached, but remember

1895
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 4: when he rejected it. For the proposed settlement. When it

1896
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 4: was rejected the second time, Dana White spoke to Kevin

1897
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: Ioli and said, you know, I think it's got to

1898
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 4: be personal, right, what this guy is doing. And it's like,

1899
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 4: how do you come to that conclusion based on like

1900
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 4: the overwhelming mountain of evidence that they a are a

1901
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 4: monopoly or a monopsoony and that they use that market

1902
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: power to suppress wages. Like, let's be clear about something.

1903
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 4: The evidence in that case is overwhelming. It's not debatable,

1904
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 4: it's very very very obvious. The only way you can

1905
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 4: come to that conclusion, BC is if you decide that

1906
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 4: your behavior is above reproach. And so the only explanation

1907
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: that could be there is someone wants to make it personal. Yeah,

1908
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 4: here we go back to that again. It makes sense

1909
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 4: he doesn't like the business choices that someone else made,

1910
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 4: so it has to become personal.

1911
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 5: There can't be anything that they have done.

1912
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 4: That they have to reflect on as bad or not

1913
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 4: as good or even just you know, not as good

1914
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 4: of an offer.

1915
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it can't be that.

1916
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 4: It has to be that he has a character flaw,

1917
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 4: he made a bad choice. He's a bad guy, and

1918
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 4: we're the shining example of all things.

1919
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: Well, look, maybe you're just a hater, and maybe you're

1920
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: just one of those media members who doesn't appreciate good things.

1921
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Let's hear from an a media member who tasted and

1922
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: seen if power Slap is worth their time.

1923
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 7: Hi.

1924
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: First of all, I owe you an apology.

1925
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 16: I was one of the people that hated powerslap. I

1926
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 16: did the commentary in Arabic for them last time, and

1927
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 16: my god, you're one hundred percent right.

1928
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: We are all wrong.

1929
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 2: I respect you so much for it.

1930
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 1: Seriously, that power Slap.

1931
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,440
Speaker 14: It's a different experience live especially.

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01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 9: It's tell a different now for the next year here

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Speaker 9: for Abu Dabian Saudi.

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Speaker 11: I know there.

1935
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Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to finally own up. No,

1936
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Speaker 1: we already had the tuporious segment earlier. Obviously, right, it

1937
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: was good.

1938
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 6: It's good.

1939
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: If you thought it could get if you thought it

1940
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: could get worse in MMA Media's performance on Saturday in

1941
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: relation to Dana, it could.

1942
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: Here's the video.

1943
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Speaker 5: Yep.

1944
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 16: I don't have a question, but I just really want

1945
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 16: to appreciate what you did. What you did to the sports,

1946
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 16: and I want you to know that even after one

1947
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 16: hundred or one hundred and fifty years, your name would

1948
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 16: always be there. So my request is, never stop what

1949
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 16: you're doing, keep making this as big as you can,

1950
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 16: and never retire. Always say that you are not enough

1951
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 16: to retire.

1952
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 14: Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.

1953
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: Look, he has not a lot. I mean at least

1954
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: all that all that filatio happened after a great card.

1955
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean they do give Abu Dhabi the loaded lineup,

1956
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: so it's a very good cardy.

1957
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 5: This product is dynamic.

1958
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 4: That car, we haven't made one complaint about this car card.

1959
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 5: The car was awesome.

1960
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 4: That usually did a great job again comment Harry Crew

1961
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: awesome fighters promoted it. It was awesome. Those media people

1962
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 4: truly look up the definition of pathetic, like the actual

1963
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 4: technical term. That's one of the most pathetic things I do.

1964
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 4: MMA media is fucking dead. It's dead media dead media.

1965
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 5: It's not as bad. Actually, I don't think it's bad.

1966
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 5: It's bad.

1967
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: It's bad, not not that version of bad, but different.

1968
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 4: I've never seen I've been doing a lot of boxing pressers.

1969
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 4: I've never seen that. I've never seen that.

1970
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty I've.

1971
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 4: Seen people in boxing pressers like big Up one of

1972
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: the fighters. I've seen that. But to the fucking promoter,

1973
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: why didn't.

1974
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: You just reach around him? That's really my question right there.

1975
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 4: I mean, that is truly one of the saddest things

1976
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 4: I've MMA media is it's it's over.

1977
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 5: It's over, it doesn't exist.

1978
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: I try to take us all the way. We're gonna

1979
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: have Bam Rodriguez in just a few moments.

1980
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: Why don't why don't we like my belly here? Why

1981
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 4: don't we Why can't we just start? Have you seen

1982
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: a ship in him back?

1983
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about that long island? Luke?

1984
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 4: If we're we do that, I mean, we could do

1985
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 4: whatever you guys want because again I don't know if

1986
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 4: he's an MMA fighter.

1987
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 5: He's not. He's a boxer.

1988
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,919
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is, does he have MMA fighter tendencies,

1989
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 4: which is to book an interview and then just not

1990
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 4: show up or show up extremely late?

1991
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll start the MK curse of people

1992
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: that that were supposed to be interviewed by us but

1993
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: then they missed it and then something bad happened to them, like.

1994
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 5: This one got offered to us, we didn't go out

1995
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 5: and get it.

1996
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, could that become a thing like should

1997
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: Randy watch himself? That's really what I'm with. I mean,

1998
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: that's just got.

1999
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 5: Bam doesn't post. Then it's fine, like it is what

2000
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 5: it is.

2001
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: But all right, well here's what I did over the weekend, guys.

2002
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: I scoured the globe, the HIGs and lows, the good,

2003
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, between combat sports and beyond. This

2004
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: is my ish. I hope you've seen it. Let's watch it. Okay,

2005
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold that because now he's here.

2006
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: So I want you to do this for the r Yes,

2007
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 4: because we just we just had this big UFC orgy.

2008
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 4: We did tell them tell the folks about Bam Rodriguez.

2009
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: Tell the folks, Bam Rodriguez is an absolute badass from

2010
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,879
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Texas, twenty four years old, a two division

2011
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: title holder at at one fifteen one eighteen in those

2012
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: lower weight classes. But what he did recently and going

2013
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: in there against the legend Juan Francisco Estrada and stopping him,

2014
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: He's not just a young fighter on the rise. He's

2015
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: one of the top ten pounds for pound best in

2016
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: this in this game today. And I mean when you

2017
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: talk about the plus minus rating, his plus minus is

2018
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,480
Speaker 1: better than Artur Betterviev and only bested by Shakur Stevenson

2019
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: according to CompuBox right now, which means the the amount

2020
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: of punches you land as compared to the punches landed

2021
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: against you. Ultimately, an absolute technician that fights in an aggressive,

2022
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: all action style. He's coming the freak on.

2023
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 4: And so what I said before, I don't know who

2024
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 4: these guys are at home? We know are are they

2025
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: family guys or not? I don't know. He seems like

2026
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 4: a chill, cool, cool guy. Yeah, I'm just pointing out.

2027
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 4: Put all that to the side. Do you like technical

2028
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 4: action fighters. Yes, we'll get the job done.

2029
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: Driguez, guy whose defensive numbers are like through the roofs

2030
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: stole you for that action style.

2031
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 4: He got dropped against the strata, yes, and then came

2032
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 4: back and put it on him. By the way, it

2033
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 4: was kind of like a flash thing because he was

2034
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 4: smiling when the ref was counting. But then he put

2035
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 4: it on him stopping what the ninth round, I believe.

2036
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: So he stopped him in the seventh round. And he's

2037
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: the WBC super Flyweight title holder, formerly the unified Flyweight Champion.

2038
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: And on November ninth, the very creative disown double header

2039
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, a long island Luke, can you drop that

2040
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: lower third there on the screen in Philadelphia when Jon

2041
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Boutsennis returns to his home city in the main event

2042
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,440
Speaker 1: in this largely unnecessary mandatory rematch against Kara and Chukadzi.

2043
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: And but in that co main event, we're going to

2044
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: get Jesse Bam Rodriguez back against forty two four and

2045
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: one Pedro gae Vera. That will be November ninth on.

2046
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 4: The zone in Philadelphia.

2047
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Gavara as calm, miss let's.

2048
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 5: Go back to there, Let's go back to Mia Sposa.

2049
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 1: That's just yeah, that means Federal GVA A Long Island. Look,

2050
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: do we have the young gentleman here?

2051
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: One second?

2052
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: All right, we're lining him up right now. Appreciate the

2053
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: uh the patients here for one of the boxing's biggest

2054
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: rising stars. I mean, when you're twenty four and you're

2055
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 1: already knocking out legends in one titles, multiple divisions, and

2056
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: you're already on the pomp for POUMP list, that's uh, you're.

2057
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 5: Doing something right.

2058
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: That's aggressed.

2059
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 4: By the way, again, that's ruthless. Is this azone pay

2060
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 4: per view?

2061
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't believe it is.

2062
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 4: I could be told, I'm by the way, Zone had

2063
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 4: like a fifty off Black Friday Friday sale, so you

2064
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 4: could get that for uh, you know obviously half of all.

2065
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 1: You don't even have to go to a store and

2066
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: get assaulted.

2067
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 4: However, he's on the same as you've been indicating. He's

2068
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 4: on the same card as Boots. Yes, so you get

2069
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 4: a Boots Bam Philly special.

2070
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's bring him in right now. He is

2071
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: the WBC super flyweight title holder, San Antonio's finest Jesse

2072
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Bam Rodriguez, Jesse, thank you for joining Morning Combat. I

2073
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: know we look like assholes, right now. But I want

2074
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 1: you to know Jesse that this is a Halloween episode.

2075
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: But do I dress like this in my real life?

2076
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 18: No?

2077
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: You best believe too cheesy does Okay, that's what I'm

2078
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 1: talking about. Bam. Okay, Bam. Great to have you on

2079
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 1: the show today. We're of course fired up about your

2080
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: return November ninth. But dude, twenty four years old, like

2081
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: you're doing very big shit. It's hard to get attention

2082
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: and the weight classes on a global scale that you're

2083
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: in and you have. Why why has the BAM experience

2084
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: for boxing been through the roof to start your career?

2085
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2086
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 6: I think it's just the way I've been performing, the

2087
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 6: way I've been handling my opponents, especially you know, their

2088
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 6: legends of the sports, So the way I've been able

2089
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 6: to take him out it says a lot, and I

2090
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 6: think that's why people they like to watch my.

2091
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: But look, when we talk about you know, I think

2092
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: if people wouldn't know you, they'd look at some of

2093
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: your wins like, Okay, this guy's all action fighter. Let's

2094
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: go out there. He'll eat three punches to land one.

2095
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: There is this technician element to you. Was that always

2096
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: the plan from the beginning, that you were going to

2097
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: bring this high level of craft into a pace where

2098
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: maybe fans would share just as much if you went

2099
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: out there blood and guts all the time.

2100
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

2101
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 6: I mean I think I feel like I just kind

2102
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 6: of fell into my my style. Before as an amateur,

2103
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 6: it was more of a come forward fire like you

2104
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 6: know the other opponents of my weight class. But like

2105
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 6: I said, I grew into my style and I think

2106
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 6: people appreciate that a lot.

2107
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: Bam from what I understand, as you indicated, you had

2108
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 4: more of a come forward style in the amateurs, and

2109
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 4: then it's become a lot slicker and you've added a

2110
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 4: whole bunch of dynamic elements to your game, including some

2111
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 4: of the stuff from what I understand, Correct me if

2112
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm wrong from Lomachenko?

2113
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 5: What did you pick up from Lomachenko?

2114
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 6: The footwork? As an amateur, I was watching Lomachenko a lot.

2115
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 6: Then I just went to the gym one day, started

2116
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 6: working on the angle with myself on the bag and

2117
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 6: they just came naturally. And when I teamed over with Robert,

2118
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 6: I feel like he took that to a whole other level.

2119
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 4: Help us understand what that means though, Like obviously you

2120
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 4: were able to what pivot around setting new angles and

2121
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 4: that if you've already got a high action, high volume style,

2122
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 4: now you've got even more openings to land on guys.

2123
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 5: Is that a fair assessment?

2124
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Just you hit them from one angle and

2125
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 6: the next second you're at another angle and they don't

2126
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 6: expect punch to come from that angle. So it's a

2127
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 6: very hard style to deal with. But you know, like

2128
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 6: I said, naturally it came to me. So I'm blessed for.

2129
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 4: That favorite other boxer to watch just as a fan.

2130
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 4: Nothing else is it Lomachenko got Let me ask this,

2131
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 4: who beyond Lomachenko do you like to watch.

2132
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of fighters I like to watch,

2133
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 6: but Boots Ennis is one of the top that I

2134
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 6: do like to watch, just because he's a switch hitter

2135
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 6: and I mean his fights are exciting. So that's I'm

2136
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 6: a big fan of Boots And to shrey Carlo him

2137
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 6: as an honor h Bam.

2138
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 4: We've all got tattoos here. I wanted to see the

2139
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 4: one on the side of your face. Can you walk

2140
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 4: us through what you have there?

2141
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 6: That's I have a dagger and then on this side

2142
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 6: I have an M. It stands for mylett. That's my daughter.

2143
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 6: She's six months now, so that's why I got that.

2144
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 5: Hey, congratulate. Are you sleeping at all?

2145
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 6: Yeah? I sleep. I sleep to the night. My girlfriend

2146
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 6: is the one that wakes up with her. So I'm

2147
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 6: blissed to hap breath.

2148
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 4: Well, oh, you got one of those arrangements, lucky lucky man.

2149
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, bab you talked about being on the same cart

2150
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: as Boots. It's unique to get two big stars. I

2151
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: mean we saw that recently with Tank Davis and David

2152
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: Benivita sharing a pay per view. How did this come together?

2153
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: And where you will all? You know, all in from

2154
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the start on this.

2155
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 6: Honestly, as far as they coming together, I don't know

2156
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 6: how it happened. I was supposed to remat as guy

2157
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 6: was started, I believe in San Antonio, but he put

2158
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 6: out of that, so I guess it just kind of

2159
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 6: fell into place, and then I have to face my

2160
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 6: mandatory Pedro Givada, and then I guess Boots had November

2161
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 6: ninth originally, so they just I guess they just kind

2162
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 6: of threw me on there. But it works out, like

2163
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 6: you said, we're both they signing fighters going to be

2164
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 6: a grain out of boxing.

2165
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And you took on the

2166
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: legend onan Francisco Estrada in June and you stopped him

2167
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: in the seventh round. There was that mandatory part of

2168
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the contract that you said you thought he was going

2169
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 1: to activate. What do you think happened with his decision

2170
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: to not go in this direction a second time?

2171
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 3: Now?

2172
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2173
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 6: I mean this whole time, I really thought we were

2174
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 6: going to rematch. I was back home waiting for about

2175
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 6: a month and a half, two months, and from one

2176
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 6: day to the next, it was just he put out

2177
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 6: of the fight. I was ready training for the rematch,

2178
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 6: and then I got news that he put out. I

2179
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 6: didn't even know I was in a fight still, but

2180
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 6: then I got word that I had to face my mandatory.

2181
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm hearing training camp ready for November ninth.

2182
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what was it like yelling in the ring

2183
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: with Estrata, because this was your ultimate testing moment for

2184
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 1: a lot of us as fans. Okay, let's see on

2185
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: this level. Was that wild for you so early into

2186
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: your career to be in there again against a guy

2187
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure you watched when you were a kid on

2188
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: the come up.

2189
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 6: When I got in the ring with the Strata, it

2190
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 6: wasn't it really was shocked. It was more of a

2191
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 6: shock when I faced Carlos squat Us, just because it

2192
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 6: was a short notice and I was watching Carlos Quala

2193
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 6: as an amateur as well, so to share the ring

2194
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 6: with him it was a bit crazy. And after that

2195
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 6: I fart wrung with that, and I kind of just

2196
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 6: got used to being in the ring with these guys.

2197
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 6: So when I went in there with the Strata, it

2198
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 6: was just any other fight, really.

2199
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: Any other fight against rung visades against the Strata. Well,

2200
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: if we're going to continue this trend, and this is

2201
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: not a disrespect to Pedro Gavar, we'll get to him

2202
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: for a second. But sometimes I'll read headlines and I'm like,

2203
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: did I just read the truckle of Tito isn't going

2204
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,560
Speaker 1: to retire and he doesn't want to retire until he

2205
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: fights Bam Rodriguez. How realistic is this super fight to

2206
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: happening for you in the near future.

2207
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a fight that's definitely realistic, But the

2208
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 6: way the news got out was kind of fake news.

2209
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 6: The thing my coach my coach, Roberts said, is if

2210
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 6: the unification fights don't come after this fight, then Tarlatio

2211
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 6: fight does interest us if it's if it interests them

2212
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 6: as well. So it kind of just got mixed up.

2213
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 6: But it is a which possibility of us fighting, I believe.

2214
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's some legend stuff right there, the

2215
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: former pound for pound king, but he still got it.

2216
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: What would a fight between the two of you.

2217
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 6: Look like fireworks? I actually sparred him like three times

2218
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 6: for their started camp, and man, those spartings were one

2219
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 6: of the best of my whole careers. So a fight

2220
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 6: with us would be fireworks, and I think the fans

2221
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 6: would appreciate it.

2222
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 1: All Right, you got this mandatory opponent coming up November

2223
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: ninth in Philly. Like we talked about Boots and Us

2224
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: in the main event, but you're gonna be taking on

2225
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: Pedro Gavara, a veteran of this game. What are you

2226
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: looking for across the ring from you? What do you

2227
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: have to watch out for against this cat?

2228
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 4: Uh?

2229
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 6: Really, I gotta watch out for everything. I said it before.

2230
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 6: Pedro Givada he has losing everything to gain. This is

2231
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 6: a huge opportunity for him to change his life, change

2232
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 6: his career. So I know he's gonna come one hundred percent.

2233
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 6: He's gonna want to take what I have. But I'm

2234
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 6: at the top of my game right now and I

2235
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 6: don't I really don't see anybody beating me anytime soon.

2236
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 4: Now listen, Bam, you're all action, all excitement and just

2237
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 4: doing great things. Worried about the Philly fans though, right,

2238
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 4: these are not the most hospitable, friendly fans in sports,

2239
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 4: and any concerns.

2240
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 1: That, Bam, they threw batteries at Santa Claus once.

2241
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 10: They're just the.

2242
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 5: Nicest folks, you know what I mean.

2243
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I'm not really worried about that.

2244
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 6: I feel like the fans are gonna appreciate my style.

2245
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 6: I kind of already have a few fans on the

2246
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 6: East Coast, so I think come November ninth, I have

2247
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 6: a lot more.

2248
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Philly is real boxing fans.

2249
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 5: They're gonna buy it. No, I'll let me get one

2250
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 5: more of it.

2251
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 4: Sure. Now, you're the king of San Antonio, right, bam.

2252
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 4: This is that's your born and raised the whole nine yards.

2253
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 5: Somebody told me this. Tell me if it's true.

2254
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 4: Best tex mex in San Antonio meet Tierra, Meet Tierra.

2255
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 5: Is that true?

2256
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't say it's the bed, but it's

2257
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 6: definitely up their top ten.

2258
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 5: Okay, give me Rodriguez special.

2259
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 4: Because someone's gonna go to San Antonio, what's the one

2260
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 4: place they gotta go to get the San Antonio experience?

2261
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 6: And there's a lot of you can go to San Antonio.

2262
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 6: Most of them are they pretty much taste the same.

2263
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 6: But I feel like, if you're gonna get a really

2264
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 6: good plate, you gotta go on the West side.

2265
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Damn, that's good food.

2266
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: There have you done that?

2267
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 5: The TEXTBX thing.

2268
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: I've been to San Antonio a bunch of all the

2269
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: food's great. I haven't gone to like the real local

2270
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: places though, because I'm just some wandering go Bam. How

2271
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: did you get that nickname?

2272
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 6: By the way, I got it when I was a baby.

2273
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 6: It started off as Bambino, like the great Bambino, Sure,

2274
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 6: and then my parents just kind of cut it short

2275
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 6: to Bambie when I was a little older. But then

2276
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 6: I outgrew that as well, so they just cut it

2277
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 6: to Baman. Ever since then, that's pretty much my name.

2278
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 6: No one even knows my real name really, so I

2279
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 6: would consider my real name.

2280
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, was this the type of thing where you

2281
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: becoming a sort of a boxing phenom. Was it by

2282
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: accident or do you come from a boxing household where

2283
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 1: this was the plan from the beginning?

2284
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 11: No?

2285
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 6: Man, really, I really don't have any boxing in my

2286
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 6: family except my brother. I think maybe my grandma's brothers

2287
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 6: were boxers, but I'm not too sure on that. But

2288
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 6: I mean, before I started boxing, I really didn't care

2289
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 6: for I didn't watch it at all, and one day

2290
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 6: I just decided to tag along with my brother and

2291
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 6: the rest is history.

2292
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 1: Now can you fill in this backstory? Is it true

2293
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: that you dropped out of school in seventh grade to

2294
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: train boxing full time? Is that a true fact?

2295
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 6: Yeah? I started homeschooling in seventh grade and then I

2296
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 6: kind of just I stopped going to that because it

2297
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 6: was boring and I wanted to pursue my career. Here

2298
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 6: I am. Now it kind of worked.

2299
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 4: Do you ever do you ever look back and say,

2300
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, listen, you're killing the game, like it's

2301
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 4: not one of those things. But do you ever look

2302
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 4: back and say, damn, I wish I would have gone

2303
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 4: to prom or something like some kind of like high

2304
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 4: school experience or something like that.

2305
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, actually I do. I mean, don't get me wrong.

2306
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 6: High school seems fun, But who knows if I did

2307
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 6: go to school, where my career would be now, So

2308
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 6: it's kind of hard to tell. I don't really mind

2309
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 6: missing out on that. Like I said, it all worked out,

2310
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 6: so I'm blessed to be where I am at.

2311
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 1: Well, Bam, it might be surreal with your name showing

2312
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: up in the top ten pound for pound list, but

2313
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,879
Speaker 1: it's deserved. But when you look at the landscape globally

2314
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: right now, and you can make arguments probably for Usik,

2315
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: for for Boots for in a way, I mean, Canelo

2316
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: is still around. Who is your pomp for pound king

2317
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 1: at the moment? And why my pound for.

2318
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 6: Pound king right now is I would say Usik just

2319
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 6: because I mean he beat Fury. Fury was undefeated. They're heavyweights,

2320
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 6: so that's you know, top of the top, and I

2321
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 6: feel like he kind of dominated of Fury in a way,

2322
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 6: so that's why he's my pomp for pound king right now.

2323
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see that rematch in December, and obviously better

2324
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: Bev is there as well. But November ninth, Saturday, Philadelphia,

2325
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: Oh please hit him up, hit him up.

2326
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 4: If it ever happens, then it probably won't. But if

2327
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 4: it does, Canelo and Crawford, how does that one look?

2328
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a that's a tough fight.

2329
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:44,560
Speaker 4: You know.

2330
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 6: Canella has a size advantage, but Crawford has a skill

2331
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 6: of like no others. So I feel like it's a

2332
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty fight really at the end of the day.

2333
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 6: But if they were at a file would favorite Crawford.

2334
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 4: Wow wow wow, Uh, skills win fights.

2335
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: Let me add on that, bam, how high and weight

2336
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: do you see yourself going?

2337
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 6: I would say one twenty six point thirty.

2338
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 1: That you know in a way hangs around in those

2339
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: areas you know.

2340
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, as I understand it, you're like,

2341
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 4: great me if I'm wrong, your like favorite vacation spot

2342
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 4: is Japan?

2343
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,799
Speaker 5: Is that right? Correct?

2344
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2345
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 6: I mean past my past two fights. I went right after,

2346
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 6: So I would say myself.

2347
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: That, well, if he hasn't been to the Tokyo Dome, Luke, maybe.

2348
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 4: We can something.

2349
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 5: How do you get through a flight to Japan?

2350
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 4: What's the Bam, Rodriguez, I got to have this so

2351
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 4: that this is eighteen plus hour flight is not so bad, man.

2352
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 6: I just really, I watched movies. I watch movies on

2353
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 6: the TV that they have in the airplane, and that's

2354
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 6: pretty much it.

2355
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: He just dreams about taking over the world. Okay, because

2356
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: he's on that way. We'll see him November ninth, on

2357
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: his own the co main event to durand Boots and

2358
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: it's just Philly come back. You've got Pedro Gayvara. That

2359
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: is Bam Rodriguez. Thank you so much for the time.

2360
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: We love watching you.

2361
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 6: We can't wait to see what really appreciate it, Ery,

2362
01:40:58,640 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 6: and you guys appreciate you having me.

2363
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: All right, we'll catch him onto his own there November ninth.

2364
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 4: Be soft spoken. I cannot overstate this. If you haven't

2365
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,759
Speaker 4: seen him fight, this motherfucker is a terrifying fighter.

2366
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a he's a skilled dog, which is a

2367
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: dangerous combination. Good timing there as we brought him in

2368
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: Long Island. Luke, thanks for your swift feet right there.

2369
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 1: But we were going to talk about that chi heite,

2370
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: So why don't we get back into it. This is

2371
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: have you seen this shit?

2372
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: Who Ah?

2373
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: What an efficient show today, right, this is epic ic.

2374
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 4: I just want everyone to know I'm right about to

2375
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 4: pour you being Fighter of the Year and if you

2376
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: have it for Poeton, it's only because you.

2377
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: Are because you don't love women.

2378
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 5: No, it's just because you're wrong.

2379
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Hey, this week in UFC, we

2380
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 1: no longer can show UFC footage apparently, Luke, so they love.

2381
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 5: Shutting down MK.

2382
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 4: Hold on. Someone asked me this question. I don't know

2383
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 4: the answer to it. Someone was saying, like, the guys

2384
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 4: that between the links they can show the stuff that

2385
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 4: we used to share without any issues BTL, Mike heck Andy, Yeah, BTL,

2386
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,560
Speaker 4: and they don't get their channel shut down. And I'm like,

2387
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 4: they asked me, like, why can't MK do that? And

2388
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to maybe do that?

2389
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Does that website have a highlight like package that they

2390
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: pay the US?

2391
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2392
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Interesting, Sometimes, Luke, big fights are so big that you

2393
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: have to find people that didn't watch it live and

2394
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: get to be the one that break the news, break

2395
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: the result to them. Taporia versus Holloway was that type

2396
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,439
Speaker 1: of fight, Luke, as you can see right here.

2397
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 4: And I think it's not even a nine to eleven joke,

2398
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 4: but you shoehorn nine to eleven into it.

2399
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 5: That's fucking great.

2400
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful for the tukes, Luke to check

2401
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: the candy. You never know. There's weirdos out there.

2402
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 4: Parents, please check your kids like it's kind of blocked

2403
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 4: there this Halloween. I just found Carla as Barza versus

2404
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 4: Rose number units two at my son's candy bar.

2405
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 5: Be safe.

2406
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 4: That was a bad fight, Luke.

2407
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: I teased it earlier in the week. But guess who's

2408
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 1: been lurking in those hawk TUA.

2409
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 4: Dmsy UFC fighter right, is that fellow's name that's been

2410
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 4: messaging me all week?

2411
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: That O'Malley Boy.

2412
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 4: Sean Sean, that's my cousin. That's your cousin.

2413
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 2: No, but.

2414
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 6: I should get hooked up.

2415
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah as a kid?

2416
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 7: Was was he.

2417
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 6: Nice?

2418
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: He's just conversating?

2419
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 6: Was like, what are you doing?

2420
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Like I have like five missed calls from and I.

2421
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 4: Was like, what you Yeah, like on Instagram, I don't

2422
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 4: even know.

2423
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: You can do that. He's had some kind of hip

2424
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: surgery and lonely.

2425
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 5: That someone just shoot me.

2426
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,599
Speaker 1: Some guys have all the luck little goods.

2427
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 4: Please. Wow?

2428
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: That was Would you what would it take for you

2429
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: to listen to that whole podcast? Does does this involve

2430
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: a syringe? Of the bubonic plague.

2431
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 4: And I can't. And by the way, it's like a

2432
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 4: wildly popular podcast. Society is cooked.

2433
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 5: It's it's over for us.

2434
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I like talking more about fighters d MS, particularly Brian

2435
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Ortega opening up a with T City.

2436
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 10: Look, I gave you a fucking chance.

2437
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 4: I saw that you had posted saying you're going through

2438
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 4: some ship against surgery or whatever.

2439
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: The fuck nigga Times up now, bitch, this is part two.

2440
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 4: Tell me you fucking love.

2441
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 5: Me, or I'm gonna fly out to wherever.

2442
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 18: The fuck you whiz right now, TC and I'm a

2443
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 18: diddle your little ass boy.

2444
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 14: With the nigga like me for I'm.

2445
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 1: Gonna pull down them breeze and apologies for the double

2446
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: n ward there, Luke. I didn't realize that happened, but it's.

2447
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 5: The favorite word of Tony Henscliff apparently.

2448
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: What did you think about those d ms?

2449
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 4: Look, that sounds about right. Yes, I've for for MMA

2450
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 4: fans in person are spirited but relatively normal. Actually, uh no, no, dude,

2451
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 4: we're not normal.

2452
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying, look at my face, we strangest

2453
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 1: people on earth.

2454
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 4: I'm actually saying that they're more normal than you and me.

2455
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is online.

2456
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 4: M M a fans.

2457
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 5: Lord of the flies up there.

2458
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 1: Lord Power Slap was in Abu Dhabi and John Nick

2459
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: was sitting. I want to say, cage side slap, side

2460
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: slap side.

2461
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 4: We've got doing. We gotta get d C up on stage.

2462
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, he took that took. What else is

2463
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 4: there to do at a power Slap event? What watch

2464
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 4: fucking truckers hit each other?

2465
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: That guy Dana was right. That journalist told you, okay,

2466
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,839
Speaker 1: you haven't tried it yet, you haven't treated.

2467
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 5: I can't believe it. I went in person and it was.

2468
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 1: Slapping each other before Ilia knocked out Max. He had

2469
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: to sit down with d C, and d C cut

2470
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: right to the chase here.

2471
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 4: Hey, I asked you a question, bro, Like you have

2472
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: a your family has money.

2473
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 12: Your family is rich, right, Like because you go to

2474
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 12: two million dollar Jim in your house, you just won

2475
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 12: the bill.

2476
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 4: How could you have that much money?

2477
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 15: Because I do, stocks are part of the UFC.

2478
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: I do many many things, dude, I was glind of that.

2479
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 4: When I first saw you, I thought you looked rich.

2480
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: You gotta look rich a little bit.

2481
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 15: But like, no, no, Jim, probably I'm wearing cheaper clothes

2482
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 15: and thank you.

2483
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,639
Speaker 17: Probably no, no, no, this is nice clothes.

2484
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: That was pretty direct, Luke. Do you think he's hinting

2485
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 1: at organized crime? What are we talking about here?

2486
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 4: I thought I'm guessing he has a lot of sponsorships

2487
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 4: in Spain.

2488
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:42,839
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right, okay, he does have the most ridiculous

2489
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: in home setup.

2490
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,640
Speaker 4: Ever, he has a nice one. I don't know if

2491
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 4: it's the most dude, like some of these NFL players are,

2492
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 4: even the Lebron's situation.

2493
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is stupid money right there. All right,

2494
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,719
Speaker 1: let's get back into this, Luke. We're gonna add somebody

2495
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,799
Speaker 1: to the Lifting Gloves Hall of Fame. It's tail Femo Lopez.

2496
01:46:58,880 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: Luke your thoughts.

2497
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 4: Oh and they're not even lifting gloves, dude, this is

2498
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 4: the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life.

2499
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 5: This does?

2500
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: It looks fine to me? I mean he's ripped. You

2501
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: know again, he didn't say the N word in this video.

2502
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 4: Called Crawford a.

2503
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 5: Monkey this week?

2504
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, but here's what I want I want

2505
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 4: to make First of all, you don't need the gloves

2506
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 4: unless you have super neuraling on there. That's really Also,

2507
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 4: what is the fucking point of taking your feet off

2508
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 4: of the ground because it makes it harder to bench press,

2509
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 4: but it doesn't actually increase the.

2510
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 5: Load on your chest.

2511
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: It's load management, right.

2512
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 4: If you actually want to get stronger, you have to

2513
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 4: put on greater emphasis with the weight which you need

2514
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 4: to be rooted into the ground for. It's a complete

2515
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 4: waste of your fucking time.

2516
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot the load. Look, you've often said parents, if

2517
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: you care about your children, don't bring them to NFL games.

2518
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: Here's why.

2519
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 18: About four fifteen, About four fifteen, I wake up, I

2520
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 18: brushed my teeth, I scratched my bulls and you know

2521
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 18: what I'd do after that?

2522
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 4: I have a captain and black.

2523
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,919
Speaker 18: Coffee, because you know what I am, I'm a savage

2524
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:01,759
Speaker 18: savages Drake.

2525
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 4: We drink.

2526
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: And that guy through batteries at Santa Claus later in

2527
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: the afternoon.

2528
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, yes, welcome to Philadelphia.

2529
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, that's what well, Luke. NFL games are not safe,

2530
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 1: but the World Series isn't that safe either. Watch these

2531
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: this couple celebrate that Freddie Freeman grand slam walk off

2532
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 1: in Game one.

2533
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 4: I mean that's somebody has her number.

2534
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 1: Okay, oh sir, that is wow. That is I don't

2535
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: know if children can be around that. See. The thing

2536
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: is southern California sports fans. I found this out on

2537
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 1: the Masvidal Diz tour. They're about that life.

2538
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 5: I've heard.

2539
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 4: I've heard that, Like there's a segment of Dodgers fans

2540
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 4: that are absolute animals.

2541
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And here's part of them. They broke out after game two, Luke,

2542
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 1: watch this focus to the right here on a potential slam.

2543
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: Come in your way and we'll let the boys be boys.

2544
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, nice, Matt return.

2545
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: They don't f around as I saw when Jorge mosvid

2546
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 1: aal at that presser was like come on, and people

2547
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: tried to climb the stage to fight him like they

2548
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: had to. They had a line of people ready to

2549
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 1: climb the stage to fight him. Well, if you want

2550
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 1: to see better fights, you gotta go to Dodgers games.

2551
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: You gotta continue to go. Here's one from last year, Luke,

2552
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: that might fit the bill. I want you to watch

2553
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 1: a few things here.

2554
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 4: One could she be more sunburn?

2555
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 1: One that guy just poured a full beer over some

2556
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: chick's head. So then we escalate. Oh oh, now there's

2557
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: going to be an oil change. Check here after the

2558
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: screen goes black that I really need you to watch closely.

2559
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Let's watch it now. Sorry, this is a Wendy's here.

2560
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 1: What do we did you see that guy?

2561
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 5: Are we just looking at sexual assault?

2562
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is this is don't take your kids to

2563
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: sporting events, Luke, under any circuit.

2564
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 4: I mean, this is Dodgers, but in general football games,

2565
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 4: why would you Why would you ever go to a

2566
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 4: football game?

2567
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 1: Why I wouldn't, Uh, Luke, you know what's getting out

2568
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: of control. I don't even know if we should show

2569
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: him these knockout memes. We respect these fighters too much

2570
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:58,599
Speaker 1: to show this stuff.

2571
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 5: Holly Holme, the KFC bit, I.

2572
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: Mean, they even get into boxing. Now, Rowley got it?

2573
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 2: Is this?

2574
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: That's the six one nine, right, that's what that's called.

2575
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Ray Mysterio, Ray Mystereo Junior. Yeah, his move

2576
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 4: is called the six one Why is it called six

2577
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 4: one nine his area code?

2578
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,759
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe right right Long Island.

2579
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 4: Luke, you're asking the wrong guy. All right, all right,

2580
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 4: all right, well that's not interesting.

2581
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 1: At all, Luke White Folks of the week, time, let's

2582
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 1: go over to this. Yeah, let's watch this. Oh oh wow,

2583
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: that is one way to move the mattress.

2584
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 5: If you just want to get going early on the

2585
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 5: U haul things, do that.

2586
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: Also, don't bring your kids to concerts, here's why.

2587
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 4: Oh good lord, and uh where the fuck is security?

2588
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: And don't bring them to football games either, Luke, because

2589
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 1: of power slap event might break out.

2590
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 4: Oh oh oh, oh wow. Yes, that's the best one yet.

2591
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Damn. All right.

2592
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 4: If you're a girl and you're about to fight another girl,

2593
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 4: how do you not grab the hair first? It's the

2594
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 4: it's it is the deciding factor of who wins.

2595
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Or who has the high ground. We learned that from

2596
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: Anakin versus.

2597
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 4: But even then, if you have the high ground, you

2598
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 4: can just pull them Like dude, you gotta grab the

2599
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 4: hair first if you're gonna do that.

2600
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, Commercial Fighter, Commercial time. Watch what Corey

2601
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:32,080
Speaker 1: Sanhagen put together?

2602
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 4: Hair?

2603
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 5: Oh what, Corey?

2604
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 4: Here we go.

2605
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 5: What made you think this was okay?

2606
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 6: Last week you said, Corey, you got one hundred percent

2607
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 6: commission on all your products you sell, which means more pain,

2608
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 6: more game.

2609
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: And then I say more pain, and then you said

2610
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: more game. And I really thought that we were on

2611
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 1: the same page with the whole thing.

2612
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 4: Well, Corey, you hit someone with your car.

2613
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 5: Look at this.

2614
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: That had nothing to do with this, Corey, how far

2615
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: are you going.

2616
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 5: To take this?

2617
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 7: I'm Cory.

2618
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: That was good ship right there.

2619
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 5: He was like Terry Tate office line back.

2620
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 4: Remember that? What's a long distance phone call?

2621
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 5: Doug?

2622
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: Terry Tate used to double leg people. Do you remember

2623
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: former UFC fighter Mark dela Rosa who's married to Montana

2624
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: de la Rosa. Watch him help out local law enforcement

2625
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 1: here with the sick double leg to take down a perpetrator.

2626
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 1: See WAFS in the background.

2627
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:40,879
Speaker 5: I mean it's America.

2628
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Oh Jesus got him, got him like Matt

2629
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: Sarah in a restaurant, right wow, Yeah, that's good stuff right.

2630
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 5: There with Matt Sarah out in the wild.

2631
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: Nobody a dumb ass that he would have jumped off

2632
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 1: those cliffs.

2633
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 4: And why am I?

2634
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much? Right wow, Francis, Look, it's

2635
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: a it's Halloween times, so I'm sure too. He is

2636
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: decorating the pumpkins at home.

2637
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 4: Your family had a pumpkin decorating contest.

2638
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I got the knife.

2639
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: In there, that's you know, I got the blood. That's

2640
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: pretty good.

2641
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 5: Okay, that's probably mom. We're working with something here.

2642
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, alright, all right, you know what that one

2643
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 4: actually got it that.

2644
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 1: Look, you can't have old abuse before you have child abuse.

2645
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: So here's your poor parent of the week. Oh okay, okay, okay.

2646
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 4: Okay, So hold on, I've done something similar.

2647
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: Yes, I've delivered trauma to my life.

2648
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 4: One not this bad. This guy went way worse. But

2649
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 4: these things now are common. So when we were kids,

2650
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 4: we had the wood chips that you would fall on.

2651
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: No, I had concrete under everything I played.

2652
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 4: Okay, but I remember some of my parks having the

2653
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: wood chips.

2654
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 5: And this is back in the eighties and nineties.

2655
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 4: But now they've hadded the zip line thing, and two

2656
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 4: key fucking loves the zipp And she kept doing it

2657
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 4: and being like faster, Daddy, faster. So one time I

2658
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 4: was like, are you gonna fucking go faster? And I

2659
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 4: gave her the old Back to the Future bit like

2660
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 4: eighty eight miles an hour. She fell off of it,

2661
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 4: and so we learned a lesson that, yeah, ultimately about

2662
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 4: how hard you can actually play.

2663
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: You've gotta be careful of Duke's at the pool too.

2664
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: Luke be watched this family.

2665
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 4: We got a big old beach ball.

2666
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 1: Look, let's go over to the let's go over to

2667
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: the garage and see this gentleman's fortunes. Yeah yeah, Hey,

2668
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 1: all eyes on the next one right here.

2669
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 17: Speak now to our corresponding Gary O.

2670
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Donahue, who's in Minneapolis.

2671
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 2: And Gary, all eyes on this case.

2672
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what, Gary, Gary's got it hard. Yeah

2673
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

2674
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: Gary was supposed to be fighting Tatian Suarez too, but

2675
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: that fight fell apart. Wow, And I take that back.

2676
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: I take it back right away. Okay, Hey, let's see

2677
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: this next hitting on girls with my dog. Hey, all right,

2678
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: you ever see dude perfect? Luke, This is dude, imperfect.

2679
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 4: Check us out, dude, I'm kicking the ball off the

2680
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 4: side of the house.

2681
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 6: Okay, I got a bankt off of this first goal.

2682
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 4: Oh no way, no chick.

2683
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, I got some great advice life advice for you.

2684
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: That's timeless. It's my experience through Jacket a bit. Let

2685
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: it relax, Jacket a little bit more. When did you

2686
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: decide to stop? I never have? Yeah's like not the

2687
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: bus stop.

2688
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that.

2689
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, you ever think about cavemen? Much like

2690
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: what if you had to like wake them up and

2691
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 1: teach them about what they missed.

2692
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 4: Here, drink this.

2693
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 6: I see that.

2694
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 5: Greg likes. Yeah, that's great.

2695
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 4: But how do we break the news to about nine

2696
01:55:58,840 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 4: to eleven?

2697
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: And Luke, I can't believe we do this in New

2698
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 1: York City. Didn't you say your favorite rap song of

2699
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 1: all time was still Tipping by Mike Jones one of them? Yeah,

2700
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: this guy's favorite too, got what's your question?

2701
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 4: How do you get up from the hood?

2702
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:16,640
Speaker 2: Do?

2703
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 7: What?

2704
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 4: How do you get up from the hood? I don't know.

2705
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 5: I didn't grow up there. You got to come to sometimes.

2706
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm down what I like Mike Jones? Fucking

2707
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 4: I'll get down. I'm tipping one bright now gripping went

2708
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 4: to pat.

2709
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 18: N keep clip and dropping the visit What's hose down

2710
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 18: my droptop and I was chicken and blocking the green

2711
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 18: Win eleventh Greene my gas supreme.

2712
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, this guy I can do about half that.

2713
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that guy just fixed race relations for like

2714
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: a decade by doing that right?

2715
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 4: That was perfect. Why don't you stumble through your words more?

2716
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 3: There?

2717
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 4: Are you?

2718
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 5: Fucking dumbass?

2719
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: Too cheesy? That's my ship for the week. I hope

2720
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: you like not a bad batch. Wow, the best show

2721
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: in combat sports two hours or less? Okay, you like it?

2722
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 4: You get it. Yeah. If there was a theme today BC,

2723
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 4: it's that everyone needs to lick my balls. Yeah, that's

2724
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 4: what this comes down to.

2725
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean, should I try to take any of these

2726
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: off before getting on the subway? You know that's the

2727
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: real question right here.

2728
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 5: Let me see how the house.

2729
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: They kind of work on me, right, Like do you

2730
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 1: think they add layers of toughness or just suggested toughness?

2731
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 4: Like light they add layers of sadness, right.

2732
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: I refuse to put on any of the tear drops

2733
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: just in case anyone.

2734
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's going a little fall.

2735
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I don't think I can. I've earned that,

2736
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to have?

2737
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 4: Hey, what is your plans for Halloween? Long Island, Lucaside

2738
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 4: from marijuana? I mean you just nailed it on the head.

2739
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: Think he's like Billy Joel records in Maroua.

2740
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 4: Kids don't come to my house, so no, they know better. Yeah,

2741
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 4: like I see the nephew and nieces or something. They

2742
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 4: they range. Oldest is thirteen, youngest is one. The thirteen

2743
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 4: is still doing Halloween it's time to have an intervention.

2744
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: She's probably not. I don't know what she's up to.

2745
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 4: But the one year old lives in near Biole. What

2746
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 4: is the cutoff year for Halloween?

2747
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: When I went out my freshman year, I got told

2748
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 1: by two different houses that I was too old to

2749
01:58:13,880 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: be to be there, and that's what I knew.

2750
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:16,000
Speaker 5: Dude, you did you?

2751
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry?

2752
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: So I was fourteen my freshman.

2753
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 4: I did it when I was eleven, and I was like,

2754
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 4: I think I've had.

2755
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: A Yeah, but you were probably six foot four at

2756
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: that time.

2757
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 4: Okay, but I was in fucking fifth grade or whatever.

2758
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 4: It was like, what is wrong with you?

2759
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 5: Sixth grade? Whatever?

2760
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: Long island?

2761
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 4: Luke?

2762
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: When did you stop?

2763
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 9: I definitely remember still doing it in middle school, which

2764
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 9: would have been up to fourteen. I don't remember everyone.

2765
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: I knew in high school was still going out. I

2766
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 1: remember when I stopped. It was because I was tall,

2767
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: and I.

2768
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 5: Was I can't be both.

2769
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 4: If you're at a stage in your life where you're

2770
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 4: jerking off, you can't go uh trigger treating at all. Okay, Yeah,

2771
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm serious.

2772
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 5: Once you reached puberty, it's a rete.

2773
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 7: No.

2774
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,000
Speaker 1: I personally think it should probably be eighth grade. That's

2775
01:58:59,040 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 1: probably the perfect cut off.

2776
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think mine was fifth or sixth I had

2777
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 5: I was like, you.

2778
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Know what, you're like, it's time to join them.

2779
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 4: And then I remember I remember asking the other kids

2780
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 4: being like, what are you doing? And I'll never forget

2781
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:10,400
Speaker 4: the first time I moved to a new I was

2782
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 4: I just moved to a new school, and I was like,

2783
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 4: what are you guys doing for Halloween? And they're all like,

2784
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 4: we're going back snatching? Was I didn't know what that

2785
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 4: wascause I was, you know, an idiot, and I'm like

2786
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 4: back snatching. They're like, yeah, yeah, we just we find

2787
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 4: other vulnerable kids and then we just snatched their bag.

2788
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: That's awful. We just threw eggs at houses.

2789
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 5: That was like our thing with eggs and toilet paper.

2790
01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: Well no, not even toilet paper, just straight eggs. And

2791
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: then you'd run as fast as you can and kind

2792
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 1: of hope they got close but didn't catch you because

2793
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: they'd beat the show out of you'd probably call the police.

2794
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 5: You know who went back snatching?

2795
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 4: Who can? But don't tell them myself.

2796
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, our great sound guy kid, he held us

2797
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 1: together today. We had some sound issues, but thank you Ken,

2798
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching this wonderful show. Outside of

2799
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Luke snot Rocket, it was really a perfect, you know,

2800
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: really perfect experience.

2801
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us on those socials. Check out our

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Speaker 1: YouTube channels there, and also you can buy our merch

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Speaker 1: at Morningcombat Dot store with the ten percent off using

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Speaker 1: our code live ten l I ve E one zero.

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Speaker 1: Luke has been molesting his Mario belly for a while.

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Speaker 5: It's fun.

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Speaker 1: Do you miss having that? I would you say? You're

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Speaker 1: in pretty good shape these days?

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I'm working on it. It's always a work

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Speaker 4: in progress. But I'm because I had to give up

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Speaker 4: lifting weights because of my leg. It was so fucked up.

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Speaker 4: The antibiotics forevermost died. I'm actually I feel like I've

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Speaker 4: made a bit of a comeback at the gym I've had.

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Speaker 4: I've reached some milestones that were pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So that's good.

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Speaker 2: So this is it.

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Speaker 4: This seems a little fun. Well, this little million bellies.

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Speaker 1: A little weird. It's a little weird right there.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is everyone massaging my balls. After the weekend,

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Speaker 4: I want you to know.

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Speaker 5: This is whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back on Friday. We got a good

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Speaker 1: UFC fight Night this weekend to get you started up.

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Speaker 5: We actually we legitimately do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll hit that in maybe a little bit

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Speaker 1: more so check us out eleven am.

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Speaker 5: Is there no boxing this weekend?

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Speaker 1: There is uh oh, Shaky Foster rematching robeson con.

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Speaker 5: That's a hardcore cut right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm into it though, I'm into him. He got

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Speaker 1: screwed that first time, so he said he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: more offensive this time around. We'll see better be okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what's going down and what type of games

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Speaker 1: are being played. How's it going down?

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Speaker 4: Right? Is you with me or what?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Okay, all right, Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's the Long Island Luke. That's the regular Luke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your boy, BC. Take care of yourself on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: We enjoyed your company like and subscribe and all that

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Speaker 1: other reach round stuff. But whatever, suck his pay low

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Speaker 1: toes and take care of yourselves. We are out.

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Speaker 5: They