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Speaker 3: All right, welcome in. Let's do this. It is The

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Speaker 3: Herd No Colin Cowherd.

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Speaker 4: I am Danny Parkins from FS one's First Things First,

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Speaker 4: soon to be expanded. First Things First, it's a thrill

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Speaker 4: to be out here in Los Angeles and for the

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Speaker 4: legend that is Colin Cowherd.

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Speaker 3: We've got a great show for you today on this Monday,

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Speaker 3: my guy Cole Kamt from the Bears.

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Speaker 4: We'll join us in about thirty minutes to explain why

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Speaker 4: everyone is completely correct. It's a panic about every interception

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Speaker 4: around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole might have a

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Speaker 4: different take on that? Bruce Feldman the show, my new

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Speaker 4: teammate at First Things First, Chris Brussard later on the

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Speaker 4: Bear Tons of Football. Because we made it. There's a

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Speaker 4: football game this week, kind of in the Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame game. But we've got a lot of NFL to

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Speaker 4: get to over the course of today's show. But somehow, someway,

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Speaker 4: even though it is game week in the NFL, Lebron

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Speaker 4: James still finds himself in the center of the news.

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Speaker 4: Because I did not expect to land in Los Angeles

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Speaker 4: to an Instagram post from a guy I had never

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Speaker 4: heard of, who was Nikola Jokicic's agent on a yacht

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Speaker 4: in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter. I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 4: Lebron World's traveler. Who who among us hasn't been on

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Speaker 4: a yacht in the south of France with the greatest

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Speaker 4: offensive player in twenty years as agent?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a thing that could happen to anybody,

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into

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Speaker 4: each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then

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Speaker 4: you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.

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Speaker 4: The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time

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Speaker 4: to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to

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Speaker 4: make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody

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Speaker 4: seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to

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Speaker 4: dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing

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Speaker 4: to trade the last first round pick that they control

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Speaker 4: to go out and make a bigger move for this

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Speaker 4: offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to

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Speaker 4: win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with

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Speaker 4: the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some

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Speaker 4: things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like

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Speaker 4: to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.

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Speaker 4: We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's say. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp

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Speaker 4: is very good at controlling the message and nothing that

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Speaker 4: they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty

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Speaker 4: four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any

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Speaker 4: modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever so he's vacationing,

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Speaker 4: he's on a yacht. This guy puts out a post

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Speaker 4: and now it becomes a story. But I don't think

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Speaker 4: Lebron is leaving LA and it is for no better

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Speaker 4: reason than say it out loud, Lebron James Denver nugget.

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Speaker 3: I just don't believe it. I have a very hard

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Speaker 4: The guy who is now on his third franchise, who

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Speaker 4: has delivered LA at Championship, who just got Kukadancich as

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Speaker 4: On that yacht they were talking about Lebron James going

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Speaker 4: struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic and his

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Speaker 4: and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was Joker's agent

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Speaker 4: talking about big plans for next summer. Well, Yokic is

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Speaker 4: Josh Kronk, the owner of the Nuggets, for some unknown reason,

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Speaker 4: being like Gianis has to leave Milwaukee. When Giannis was

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Speaker 4: unhappy in Denver. What if Jokic's agent is making big

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Speaker 4: to go to Los Angeles to play with his longtime

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Speaker 4: what the big plans could be than Lebron James being

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Speaker 4: a Denver nugget for one year. I have no idea

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Speaker 4: how many more years Lebron James is playing. We say

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Speaker 4: Father Time is undefeated. Lebron James is trying to shatter

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Speaker 4: expectations on that cliche, but to say it out loud.

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Speaker 4: Test tells me it is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: but that if I had to say Jokic in LA

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Speaker 4: which granted is simpler given Lebron is not under contract

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Speaker 4: beyond this year as we all know, I'll still take

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Speaker 4: the more difficult path and believe that it's much more

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Speaker 4: likely that Lebron is figuring out a way to team

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Speaker 4: up with Jokic, pair him with Luca, make one more

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Speaker 4: to be successful after him and having that be a

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Speaker 4: part of his Lakers' legacy. I won you the title

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Speaker 4: in the bubble, maybe I won you a second title,

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Speaker 4: and oh yeah, by the way, I set you up

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Speaker 4: to have the best duo in the NBA going forward

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Speaker 4: how this next story is going to end, but it

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Speaker 4: still doesn't change any of the drama. Micah Parsons is

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Speaker 3: Because as a content guy who loves.

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Speaker 4: The NFL year round, I feel like all of us,

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Speaker 4: everyone who sits behind a microphone, should have to write

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Speaker 4: a handwritten thank you letter to Jerry Jones and the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys, because love them or hate them, we all

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Speaker 4: have an opinion of how they do business and why

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Speaker 4: they are just still so relevant and compelling despite it

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Speaker 4: being thirty years without a championship, and so over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: Micah Parsons, who doesn't have a contract, apparently has a

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Speaker 4: little back tightness, but is there at training camp just

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Speaker 4: not really participating. Jerry Jones because for some reason, the

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Speaker 4: training camp with a bunch of cheerleaders behind him, had

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Speaker 4: to come out and say whatever he was saying about

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Speaker 4: the new and improved team, and he was greeted with

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Speaker 4: chance of pay Micah, Pay Micah, and then he talked

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Speaker 4: you know, we paid Mike, we paid Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: And then he got hurt.

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Speaker 4: He can't help himself because this is what he does.

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Speaker 4: And Dak Prescott last year said, you know, I just

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Speaker 4: kind of stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold

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Speaker 3: But that was last year.

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Speaker 4: Cede Lamb just last week, when talking about Micah Parsons

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Speaker 4: and these contract negotiations that are playing out as publicly

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Speaker 4: as any contract negotiations in the NFL. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we just don't play in those waters with the media

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Speaker 5: Obviously, playing his media game with Jerry is not the best,

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Speaker 5: is not fun, is not recommended. But as for Micah,

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Speaker 5: he knows what he brings to this table, honestly, for

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Speaker 5: And I'm not indulging any of the craziness that they

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Speaker 4: He will get paid. We all know how this ends.

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Speaker 4: This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa got paid

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Speaker 4: a Brown for life and for a while. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago when TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, they were far apart, they weren't going to

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Speaker 4: get it done. And then whila, it's amazing with forty

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Speaker 4: one million dollars per year. To rush the quarterback and

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Speaker 4: lose Wild Card weekend can do to a guy's mood, and.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt back with the Steelers, thrilled, Micah Parsons will be

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Speaker 4: a Dallas Cowboy. He will get another contract. He will

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Speaker 4: top TJ. Watts forty one million per year. My guess

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be forty one point

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Speaker 4: forty four to forty five million a year, put some

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Speaker 4: distance between him and the other pass rushers. And I'm

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Speaker 4: sure that's the sticking point in the negotiations right now.

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Speaker 4: But I think would be called a media literacy test here.

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Speaker 4: I think we would all be served to actually pay

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Speaker 4: attention to Jerry Jones. And I know it's a bolt strategy,

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Speaker 4: and Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott have said they're trying

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Speaker 4: to do different things, but I.

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Speaker 3: Don't play quarterback for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones saw how this country was enamored with the

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Speaker 4: Last Dance, and he said, I gotta get me one

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Speaker 4: of those and he struck a deal with Netflix to

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Speaker 4: produce a multi part story of the Cowboys, and it's

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Speaker 4: coming soon, and we'll see what America's appetite is for

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Speaker 4: a long form documentary on America's team will be as

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Speaker 4: popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the

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Speaker 4: middle of a pandemic. But they were popular in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it

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Speaker 4: will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,

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Speaker 4: there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I

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Speaker 4: actually was like, ah, there it is, thank you. This

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Speaker 4: is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 3: That is his business model.

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Speaker 4: That is why they're not in the biggest market, but

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Speaker 8: Lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing those words.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, it's kind of crazy. Were you just kind

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Speaker 3: I'm doing everything I can. I have been great. I

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Speaker 4: In the regular season I have been great in the postseason,

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Speaker 4: if Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned

435
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Speaker 4: it because he's been the second best of.

436
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Speaker 3: Mahomes for five years. At this point. Speaking of the Chiefs,

437
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Speaker 3: access is good, and we see stories.

438
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Speaker 4: All the time now because we're on the internet and

439
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Speaker 4: we are addicted to football that we want any little

440
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Speaker 4: nugget or morsel of information. Anthony Richardson threw an interception.

441
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Speaker 4: He's going to never figure it out. Caleb Williams threw

442
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Speaker 4: an interception. Ben Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That

443
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: is just how it works in the information age and

444
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Speaker 4: how addicted to football we are. And I'm not even

445
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Speaker 4: saying that there's nothing that you can take out of

446
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Speaker 4: reports from training camp. Hey, they put lines on these

447
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Speaker 4: preseason games. I'm not above gambling on the Hall of

448
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Speaker 4: Fame game. I think you can have impact on your

449
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Speaker 4: fantasy drafts. I'm not saying don't pay attention to it,

450
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Speaker 4: but judging stats or results from practices.

451
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Speaker 3: Is insane. Almost none of it matters.

452
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Speaker 4: But if you want a topic from training camp that

453
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Speaker 4: does matter, I would give you Josh Simmons being with

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Speaker 4: the ones for the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Already, Josh Simmons was supposed to be a top.

456
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Speaker 4: Fifteen pick out of Ohio State and he broke his

457
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Speaker 4: pateeller tendon and he fell to the Chiefs with a

458
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Speaker 4: thirty first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: And anyone who remembers the chief season last year.

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Speaker 4: It was a revolving door, right four different guys played

461
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Speaker 4: left tackle for the Chiefs, so much so that they

462
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Speaker 4: had to shift Joe Dooney they're all Pro guard from

463
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Speaker 4: left guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.

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Speaker 3: So it became a situation where then.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles off, of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line

466
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Speaker 4: among other things that they dominated in that Super Bowl,

467
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Speaker 4: and it brought flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to

468
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Speaker 4: Tampa in the Super Bowl, when Mahomes' offensive line fell

469
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Speaker 4: apart last year. This was the worst offensive line of

470
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Speaker 4: the Mahomes era. He was hit one hundred and eighteen times.

471
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Speaker 4: He was sacked forty one times, four different left tackles.

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Speaker 4: They lose their left guard to the Bears. The guy

473
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Speaker 4: they drafted Kingsley Sue or Sue matiaala excuse me, in

474
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Speaker 4: the second round two years ago. Now he's going to

475
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Speaker 4: be their left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what

476
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Speaker 4: Josh Simmons is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick

477
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Speaker 4: on a cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays

478
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Speaker 4: left tackle, well, now, all of a sudden, you've got

479
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Speaker 4: an elite prospect on a cheap contract at left tackle.

480
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: Kingsley goes from left tackle to left guard second year

481
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Speaker 4: in the league. Creed Humphrey center, one of the best

482
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Speaker 4: centers in the NFL under a long term contract. Tray

483
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Speaker 4: Smith one of the best right guards in the NFL

484
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Speaker 4: under a long term contract. And while Juwan Tayler frustrates

485
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: people because he gets a few too many penalties and

486
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Speaker 4: he does that like a little quick jump off where

487
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Speaker 4: it feels like he's getting a jump off the line

488
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Speaker 4: of scrimmage that a bunch of guys do.

489
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Speaker 3: Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.

490
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Speaker 4: And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,

491
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Speaker 4: to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs

492
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Speaker 4: offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,

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Speaker 4: huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs

494
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Speaker 4: offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in

495
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Speaker 4: terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that

496
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Speaker 4: anyone could see if you watched the game was like,

497
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Speaker 4: where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just

498
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Speaker 4: like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years.

499
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Speaker 4: Where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to throw

500
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Speaker 4: the deep ball? No? Is it all just that the

501
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell and

502
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Speaker 4: daring you to beat him underneath.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some of it.

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Speaker 4: They were last in the NFL in touchdowns that went

505
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Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. Whereshi Rice and Hollywood Brown and Xavier

506
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps together last year.

507
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what discipline comes for

508
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy had the great

509
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. But those three guys are going to play

510
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Speaker 4: together this year. And the offensive line should be better,

511
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Speaker 4: so that means the offense should be better. And those

512
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Speaker 4: are the types of training camp stories to me that matters.

513
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Speaker 4: New guy in new place, rookie making and adjustment, healthy

514
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Speaker 4: or not healthy. When a player throws an interception, well,

515
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: did the coach before the rep tell him, you've got

516
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Speaker 4: to go to this route because we've got to work

517
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Speaker 4: on the timing. There was he playing against the ones

518
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: or the twos? What was going on on the offensive line?

519
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: We just don't we don't know. We don't know so

520
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: many of the details of what they were trying to

521
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: accomplish in a given play or a given drill, that

522
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: reporting on successes or failures or stats or any of

523
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Speaker 4: that just feels like a fool's errand. But the Kansas

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left tackle with a

525
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Speaker 4: thirty first pick in the draft who we didn't know

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Speaker 4: if he was going to be healthy for week one,

527
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Speaker 4: and he was healthy for day one of training camp.

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Speaker 4: So the guy they signed from the Niners is now

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Speaker 4: rotating on the right side of the offensive line stead

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Speaker 4: of the left side of the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a story.

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Speaker 4: Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense, which has

533
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Speaker 4: carried them the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: That's a story.

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Speaker 4: Because of Spagnola gets the defense to be what the

536
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Speaker 4: defense has been. The offense gets back to being what

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Speaker 4: the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't afraid of

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Speaker 4: the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved Raiders or

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Speaker 4: anyone else because last year, I mean two years ago,

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Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl, leading the league in drops.

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Speaker 4: Last year, they had the least explosive offense in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: had four different left tackles, and they won fifteen games

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Speaker 4: that made it to the Super Bowl. So you want

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Speaker 4: a training camp story that matters, Josh Simmons getting reps.

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Speaker 4: Already forget reps. He's your first string left tackle for

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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a training camp story

547
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Speaker 4: that matters. We had some tech issues with Cole Kamett.

548
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: We'll try to figure that out. But on the other side,

549
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Speaker 4: there's a big lesson that Caleb Williams learned from last season,

550
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Speaker 4: and it's worth getting into.

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Speaker 3: Danny Parkins.

552
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Speaker 2: This is the hurt one More Herd. The Herd streams

553
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Speaker 2: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within

554
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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app Search Herd to listen live or on

555
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Speaker 2: demand whenever you'd like.

556
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Speaker 4: Top ten quarterbacks in the NFL heading into the twenty

557
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Speaker 4: twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Number ten Jalen Hurts I said.

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Speaker 2: It and I mean it.

560
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Speaker 3: He's like, you gotta give it more credit for winning

561
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

562
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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 3: He was outside of my top ted last year. Like

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Speaker 3: spoiler alert, he's ahead of Dak Prescott. He wasn't this

565
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Speaker 3: time last season.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts great leader, clutch, perfect for that team in

567
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Speaker 4: that system, but not asked to do nearly as much

568
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Speaker 4: for his team's success as the guys.

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Speaker 3: Nine through one on my list. Number nine the Bake Show.

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield is the poster child for patience. We'll see

571
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Speaker 4: what Bryce Young ends up being in Carolina. But Baker Mayfield, man,

572
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Speaker 4: they haven't figured it out in Carolina.

573
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Speaker 3: They haven't figured it out in Cleveland.

574
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Speaker 4: This guy the last two seasons comfortably inside the top ten.

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Speaker 4: He's first in passing touchdowns, second in passing yards, fourth

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Speaker 4: in passer rating.

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Speaker 3: And sixth in yards per attempt. Baker Mayfield all the respects.

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Speaker 3: Number eight.

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff, like Jalen Hurts, has a ton around him,

580
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Speaker 4: no doubt about it. But doing it with two different franchises,

581
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Speaker 4: with the Rams to a super Bowl and now the

582
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Speaker 4: Lions as perennial contenders year in and year out matters

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Speaker 4: and last year, I mean, career highs in points per game,

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Speaker 4: thirty three completion percentage, passing, touchdowns, passer rating, yards per

585
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Speaker 4: attempt and oh yeah, by the way, wins Jared Goff's

586
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Speaker 4: stud and he's playing up to the billing of being

587
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Speaker 4: the number one, oh overall pick seven. It's the best

588
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Speaker 4: rookie season I've ever seen. Jaden Daniels is the guy

589
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Speaker 4: on this list who at the end that top four

590
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 4: is just so ironclad. It's like Mount Rushmore. Hey, you

591
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: know we should do that as a sports radio hook

592
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore. Has anyone ever thought of that? But if

593
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Speaker 4: there was a guy outside of the top four who

594
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Speaker 4: could jump in. If Jadeen Daniels builds on a rookie

595
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Speaker 4: season with the third down efficiency, the fourth down efficiency,

596
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Speaker 4: the winning the one score victories, if he takes that

597
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes type of leap, he's in the

598
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Speaker 4: MVP conversation. He's in the top four conversation. Number six.

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Speaker 4: Matt Stafford's been that dude for well over a decade.

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Speaker 4: As soon as he leaves Detroit, he goes to the Rams.

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00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: He gets better coaching, he gets a little better talent

602
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Speaker 4: around him, he gets a better system, and he gets

603
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Speaker 4: a ring in the playoffs. He's been a stud with McVeigh,

604
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: he's been a stud. And this one is still a

605
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: bit of the eye test. We'll see what the offensive

606
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Speaker 4: line is. The Rams this year left tackles already hurt.

607
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: They've got some questions kind of across the board with

608
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Speaker 4: Humphreys there, but at his age, he needs good protection.

609
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: But if he gets good protection, there's really no one

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Speaker 4: in the world that's better at throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: Number five, except for.

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Speaker 4: Maybe my guy Justin Herbert who I think is very

613
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Speaker 4: Matt Stafford esque and still, by the way, on the

614
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Speaker 4: exact same career trajectory as Peyton Manning. Big year for

615
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Speaker 4: Herbert with Harball, with the running game, with arguably the

616
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Speaker 4: best tackle duo outside of Philadelphia in the NFL. Five

617
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Speaker 4: hundred plus pass attempts, three or fewer interceptions justin Herbert

618
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Speaker 4: last year. Aaron Rodgers give him more weapons, which they

619
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Speaker 4: did in the draft. The passing game produces even more

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Speaker 4: justin Herbert, absolute stud the fifth best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Number four.

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Speaker 4: This one I struggle with, but I'm giving it to

623
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson statistically last year, him and Aaron

624
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Speaker 4: Rodgers only quarterbacks with more than forty passing touchdowns and

625
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: fewer than five interceptions. He was brilliant, but he didn't

626
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Speaker 4: win the MVP to Josh Allen. Once you get into

627
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Speaker 4: the top four, I think we are dealing with parsing

628
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Speaker 4: greatness among the guys in the postseason. And Lamar still

629
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: has a losing record in the postseason. But he's a

630
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Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famer. Give him a ring.

631
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Speaker 3: He jumps up on the list. Number three. Joe Burrow,

632
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to knock him for his defense.

633
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow had a losing record in games where his

634
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: team scored more than thirty points last year. It's an impossibility.

635
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: He has a middle of the row defense. He's the

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Speaker 4: MVP of the league. Last year, his passer rating and

637
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Speaker 4: losses was one to eight point two, second highest passer

638
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Speaker 4: rating and losses ever for a quarterback to lose eight

639
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Speaker 4: or more games.

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow third best quarterback in the league.

641
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Speaker 2: Number two.

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Speaker 3: I've said it before, I'll say it again. It's very clearly,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: If it wasn't for Patrick Mahomes, it would be universally

645
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Speaker 4: accepted that this guy was the best in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: He's second to Mahomes and wins. He's second to Mahomes

647
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Speaker 4: in passing yards. He's second to Mahomes in passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: In the last five seasons, this is your second best quarterback.

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Speaker 4: This is your second best player in football, which frankly

650
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Speaker 4: ruins the suspense for number one.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: Mahomes is still on that Brady track. Through eight seasons.

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Speaker 4: He's still there. Double digit win seasons, he's still on

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Speaker 4: the track the Super Bowls. He's still on the track.

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Speaker 4: The regular season wins, he's ahead of him. The playoff wins,

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Speaker 4: he's ahead of him. The conference titles, he's ahead of him.

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Speaker 4: Super Bowls, he's even to him. Guy's going to play

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Speaker 4: football for another ten plus years, and that Brady conversation

659
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Speaker 4: is going to start really picking up. Give him that

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Speaker 4: explosive offense back with the Spagnolo's defense, He'll just add

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Speaker 4: more to his trophy case. There's your top ten quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: heading in to this season. What a perfect list. By

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Speaker 4: the way, I don't know though anyone could dispute anything

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Speaker 4: on there, except apparently Philly Fence.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in Noone Eastern not a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: App Back In on the Herd of Danny Parkins in

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Speaker 4: for Colin Cowherd today, Tomorrow and Wednesday. Huge news in

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Speaker 4: the world of college football, in the world of sports,

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Speaker 4: because while Deon Sanders is a fixture in college football,

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Speaker 4: he's one of the most famous athletes alive and one

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Speaker 4: of the greatest athletes alive. Announcing that he had his

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Speaker 4: bladder removed because of a cancerous tumor that was on

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Speaker 4: his bladder, that announcement coming just moments ago. So it's

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Speaker 4: a great time to welcome to the herd. Bruce Felman,

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports college football reporter and New York Times best

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Speaker 4: selling author, Bruce, thank you very much for the time.

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Speaker 4: Obviously good news that the surgery was successful, but your

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Speaker 4: reaction to the Dion Sanders press conference with his whole

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Speaker 4: medical team there at colleg.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's pretty jolting just to hear how serious this

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Speaker 9: was to have the bladder removed, to have it was

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Speaker 9: a cancerous tumor that was in there. They actually, according

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Speaker 9: to the doctors who were at the press conference, they

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Speaker 9: actually had the procedure done by robot. And when one

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Speaker 9: of the doctors was explaining kind of the process here

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Speaker 9: when when Dion was diagnosed with it, it was like

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Speaker 9: he was told, with this kind of cancer, there's a

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Speaker 9: fifty percent chance of reoccurrence, and he wanted to explore

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Speaker 9: his other options, and so that became this to basically

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Speaker 9: have a new bladder built for him and have the

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Speaker 9: old one removed. I mean, it's crazy because in the

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Speaker 9: course of this press conference, the doctor had said this

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Speaker 9: was his fourteenth surgery that he's had just in the

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Speaker 9: last four years, which is kind of mind blowing that

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Speaker 9: he's had that many procedures. I had seen him at

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Speaker 9: Big twelve media days earlier this month in Texas, and

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Speaker 9: he wasn't really back on the job at least in

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Speaker 9: terms of back with his team, but talking to him

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Speaker 9: for a couple of minutes, you could tell that, you know,

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Speaker 9: something significant had happened. It wasn't like this was a

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Speaker 9: guy who was on vacation for a month or went

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Speaker 9: to Europe or anything. And even for the people I

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Speaker 9: know who are close to him, they you know, they

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Speaker 9: really kind of stressed something, you know, significant it happened.

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Speaker 9: And now to hear it, it's really eye opening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's courageous to be public with anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So that'll make a huge difference both for those kids

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Speaker 4: in the program, but just anyone who follows sports and

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Speaker 4: here's that sort of thing. So again, congrats to Dion

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Speaker 4: for the positive medical news there and what apparently was

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Speaker 4: a successful surgery. Football is so secondary here, but they

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Speaker 4: kind of took the college football world by storm with

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Speaker 4: Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter, who are not there anymore.

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Speaker 3: How do you follow it up? What are you expecting

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Speaker 3: from Colorado this season.

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Speaker 9: It's going to be I think a rebuild, not like

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Speaker 9: the rebuild that he and they had when they all

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Speaker 9: came from Jackson State and it was an awful program.

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Speaker 9: They had won one game the previous year, and he

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Speaker 9: made them respectable. You know, they went from four wins

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Speaker 9: in the first year to nine wins in a top

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Speaker 9: twenty five season last year. But as you said, now,

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Speaker 9: his star quarterback, who is the leader of the offense,

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Speaker 9: his son is in the NFL, and the real star

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Speaker 9: of the team, the guy who won the Heisman, Travis

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Speaker 9: Hunters in Jacksonville, and he was such a two way

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Speaker 9: force and a difference maker. I think replacing not just

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Speaker 9: the leadership but the star power of hey, we need

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Speaker 9: a big play and those guys could step up and

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Speaker 9: make it. We saw that time and time again, especially

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Speaker 9: with Travis Hunter. Those guys are gone now. So you

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Speaker 9: have new quarterbacks. Cayden Salter, who's played a lot more

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Speaker 9: of a running quarterback from Liberty. Juju Lewis is a

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Speaker 9: seventeen year old quarterback who was a big recruit. I

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Speaker 9: think you'll see some version of a split. You'll see

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Speaker 9: probably both quarterbacks play. I think there's more talent in

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Speaker 9: the trenches right now that's you than they had in

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Speaker 9: Dion's first two years. I think they're probably a little

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Speaker 9: more balanced across the board. I don't think they have

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Speaker 9: the wow players and the splash players, certainly led by Travis,

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Speaker 9: and they have a real tough opener Georgia Tech has

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Speaker 9: to come to Boulder. But this is a really good team.

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Speaker 9: I remember this is the same team that took Georgia

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Speaker 9: to like ten overtimes Thanksgiving weekend. They're good and they're physical.

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Speaker 9: It is very much like the same team, same style,

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Speaker 9: a team that blew Colorado out in the Alamobile that

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Speaker 9: BYU team, really physical, punishing, run game, very very diverse

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Speaker 9: in how they attack you in the run game. And

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Speaker 9: I think those are the challenges that Colorado is going

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Speaker 9: to have to learn from and see if they're up

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Speaker 9: to it, because this is going to be a real

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Speaker 9: physical test for them right out of the gate.

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Speaker 4: Talking college football with Bruce Feldman, we are just over

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Speaker 4: a month from the two teams with the two best

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Speaker 4: title odds, Texas and Ohio State playing each other. An

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Speaker 4: unbelievable way to start it off for those two powerhouse programs.

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Speaker 3: Who has the.

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Speaker 9: Edge in this case, I'm going to say it's the

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Speaker 9: team that's the home team, which is Ohio State. You know,

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Speaker 9: so many changes. Obviously, both teams are replacing quarterbacks. You

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Speaker 9: also have on the Ohio State side, they have to

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Speaker 9: replace both the offensive and defensive coordinators. Ohio State lost,

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Speaker 9: you know, pretty much its entire d line, whereas whereas

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Speaker 9: Texas lost four of its five starters. Who are going

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Speaker 9: to be in front of Arch Manning? Now, I think

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Speaker 9: it's a really interesting chess match here between Steve sarkiz

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Speaker 9: And and Arch Manning against Matt Patricia, who's now the

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Speaker 9: defensive coordinator. Comes from the NFL to the Big Ten.

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Speaker 9: Now what I think is a big help. In addition

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Speaker 9: to it being a home game for the Buckeyes, they

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Speaker 9: have the best offensive and the best defensive players in

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Speaker 9: the country coming back. Amia Smith, who you're seeing all

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Speaker 9: the highlights of. Now, that great receiver. He's six three,

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Speaker 9: two hundred and twenty five pounds and is unguardable. You

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Speaker 9: have to double team them, you may even have to

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Speaker 9: triple team them. And then on the other side of

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Speaker 9: the ball, Caleb Downs is a phenomenal safety who makes

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Speaker 9: big plays all over the field and is really a

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Speaker 9: leader and probably the smartest defensive player in college football.

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Speaker 9: Those two guys are such difference makers. I think that

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Speaker 9: gives them a big advantage. And again, Texas is loaded.

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Speaker 9: I think they're a top five team, but with a

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Speaker 9: rebuilt offensive line completely and going into a real hostile

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Speaker 9: environment and a team that has such star power, I

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Speaker 9: would give the edge, not a huge one, but I

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Speaker 9: would give the edge to Ohio State at the start

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Speaker 9: of the year at least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe Jeremiah Smith still can't enter the NFL.

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Speaker 4: The guy is an absolute beast. You mentioned the offensive

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Speaker 4: line in front of Arch Manning. You'll be asked this

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Speaker 4: a million times between now and the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: Do you expect him to be an NFL draft pick

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Speaker 4: at the end of this season?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 9: I think just knowing the Mannings and his parents a

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Speaker 9: little bit, I think they know that it's probably in

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Speaker 9: his best interest to keep getting reps and keep playing

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Speaker 9: and keep getting game action. Now it's a little different

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Speaker 9: these days compared to just you know, when his brother

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Speaker 9: his uncles were playing, where the season could be a

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Speaker 9: lot longer. I mean, if Texas is is good and

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Speaker 9: does as well as I think they're going to do.

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Speaker 9: They're probably going to play sixteen games, and that's a

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Speaker 9: lot more than a twelve game schedule. There's also more

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Speaker 9: injury risk with a longer stretch. I mean, he only

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Speaker 9: started two games though last year. He's played some, but

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Speaker 9: not a lot, and I think just to be a

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Speaker 9: one year starter. Even if everything goes great, and let's

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Speaker 9: say he leads them to a national title and they

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Speaker 9: go fifteen to one and win a national title, I

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Speaker 9: still think there's going to be some you know, hesitation

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Speaker 9: about is he ready? Is it in his best interest

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Speaker 9: to jump into the NFL. You know, when I talked

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Speaker 9: to Cooper Manning his dad a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 9: one of the things we talked about was just, you know,

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Speaker 9: he brought up about when you're ready. You know, he's

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Speaker 9: seen so many examples of, especially in the NFL, quarterbacks

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Speaker 9: who might not be as ready as they could be

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Speaker 9: getting thrown under the bus pretty quick because the process

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Speaker 9: doesn't wait, doesn't have much patience. But I think he's

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Speaker 9: super talented. Everybody I talked to at Texas raves about

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Speaker 9: his football intelligence. He's really athletic. I think he's in

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Speaker 9: a really good position. It's just I think time is

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Speaker 9: something that's you know, you can't put a price on that.

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Speaker 9: I just think that maybe the added reps of being

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Speaker 9: a two year starter probably would help his long term development.

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Speaker 9: But you know, let's see, we don't have a crystal ball.

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Speaker 9: We're just kind of just kind of going on how

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Speaker 9: we think the process will play out for him.

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Speaker 3: All right, I got to do this quickly.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, I, oh, it's a Colin cowher since

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Speaker 4: he's letting me sit in this seat. What do you

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Speaker 4: make of this idea of Nick Saban maybe not being

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Speaker 4: done coaching and if he is better suited nowadays for

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Speaker 4: the NFL than college man.

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Speaker 9: He's going to be seventy four in a couple of months.

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Speaker 9: I just I think he is, even if he's tempted

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Speaker 9: to look at the NFL. Look, you know, Pete Carroll's

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Speaker 9: around the same age, and he's in Las Vegas and

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Speaker 9: he's got a ton of energy. Saban seems to have

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Speaker 9: a ton of energy. I know from the conversations he

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Speaker 9: had when he walked away at Alabama. It was it

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Speaker 9: was all the things going around the sport and the

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Speaker 9: way everything's run just he didn't need it anymore. He

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Speaker 9: seems like he's doing a really good job in TV.

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Speaker 9: I just think if he's going to jump back into it,

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Speaker 9: you know, that's not just him, that's him and his

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Speaker 9: wife who have to, you know, make that decision. I'd

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Speaker 9: still be very surprised, being in his mid seventies, if

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Speaker 9: he decided to come back to the grind that is coaching.

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Speaker 9: Even if it's in the NFL, you have more of

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Speaker 9: an offseason than you do as a college coach.

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Speaker 4: Bruce Fel football, college football reporter for Fox Sports and

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Speaker 4: New York Times bestselling author, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: the time on a big news day in college football.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Bruce,