1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Catty. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jet Tidy and Armstrong and Caddy Strong not 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: live from Studio c Hey. 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: There were Armstrong in Geddi and for the first time ever, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: I think we actually are taking Columbus Day off. I 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: do not like the way you are treating Italian Americans. 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: I can't handle it. I'm too angry to come to work. 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: I've rented three ships and I'm going to go exploit someone. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: We're taking it off more for personal family reasons than 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Columbus Day. But anyway, you carefully curated, delightfully entertaining collection 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: of best of Armstrong and Getty clips coming up in moments, So. 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Now enjoy the Armstrong and Geddy replay. 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: And he called me and I then again, listen this book. 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm being in this book, are you? And in a 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: way that I hope is helpful for people to understand 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 4: what that all was. And part of that call that 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 4: he made to me the afternoon before the debate was 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: to wish me luck, but also to talk about something 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: that was more in his interest than it was in mind, 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: especially in the context of that time. 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: She is the hardest person to follow of anyone. She 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: would have made a horrible president. I mean absolutely horrible. 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't just mean in the normal I don't want 25 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: the Democrat to win. I'd rather have Gavin NUSA. You 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 3: can name tons of people I don't like that would 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: be better to be president. 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: Her brain don't work, No, no, I found myself being 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: lulled into this weird hypnosis by her droning nonsense. 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: She can't spit anything out, she can't make a decision, 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: she's too coward to say anything anyway. So she's having 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: what Mark Alpern is calling one of the most disastrous 33 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: first forty eight hours of a book to her anybody's 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: ever had. And here's a little of his analysis with 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: a couple of the people on his show from yesterday, 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. 37 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 5: She's done two interviews Rachel Maddow last night and JMA, 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: and most distinctive to me, again, as someone who's as 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: expert in selling books is anything I'm expert at, she's 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: not doing a particularly good job of selling the book, 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: in part because she's pulling her punches when the questioners 42 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: have asked her about the newsiest parts of the book. 43 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 5: She's not backing up what she said in the book. 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 5: She seems reluctant to repeat some of the accusations she's made. So, 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: for instance, Rachel Maddow, Rachel Maddow said, I'm very disappointed 46 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 5: that you suggested that the country wasn't ready to elect 47 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 5: a black woman in a gay man and picking pee footage. 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 5: She said, Oh, no, no, that's not really what I 49 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: What I mean, what I mean is, uh, you know, 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 5: I think it would have been tough. I mean, she 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 5: just she didn't follow it through. And then here's two 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: examples from Good Morning America. First, she was asked about 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: the phone call that she writes in the book that 54 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 5: Joe Biden called her right before a debate with Donald Trump, 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: and rather than just wishing her well, started to complain 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: to her about his own grievances. 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: Right, And that's the clip we just heard. And so 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: Mark Halpern made the point. And then I saw him 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: on Megan Kelly's shows. I thought it was said he 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: said instead of selling her book. So she usually you 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: you you you write something strong in your book, and 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: then you get asked about it because you made some 63 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: strong statements and you, you know, you add more to it. 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: You're trying to create excitement, and. 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: And and and and get people to want to go 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: out and buy the book. That's the point of it. 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: She backs off of all of them. And he said, 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: instead of a selling her book, it seems like she's 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: being confronted with her journal that and she's trying to 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: explain away the passages that have leaked out. 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, what she's doing. My only disagreement with Mark is 72 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: not only did she not write the book, Mark, she 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: hasn't even read it. Oh you don't think so? No. No, 74 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: she sat down for a bunch of interviews with some 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: professional writer, which is perfectly fine. I mean that's what 76 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: politicians do. Uh, and they crafted a book. But she 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: was probably surprised at some of the way things were characterized. 78 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: And she is gutless and has no principles. So yeah, 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: back it off of everything. 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: Here she is on Good Morning America asked about was 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden capable of serving four more years? 82 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: At least? Sit here today? 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: Do you think he would have been up for running 84 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: the country for four more years? 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 6: I here's the distinction that I make. 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: It's and having had the experience myself, It is one 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 4: thing to have the capacity to govern. It is another 88 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: thing to go through an electrication. 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: I go right off the bat. 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: She couldn't just even come close answering the question on 91 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: her book tour. She just keeps as the Even the 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: Democrat on Mark Alpern's show said, this is just a disaster. 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: It seems like she looks like she regrets her book 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: to her two days and from having to answer these questions. 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: We're going to play another clip. But here's something interesting 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: that came out of that. So Sean Spicer is on 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: Mark Alprin show. Sean Spicer was Trump's first White House 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: press spokesman. 99 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: Spicy Spicer loved him. 100 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: And he wrote a book after his time, and he 101 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday, I thought this was pretty interesting. 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: He said. 103 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: He writes his book, he gives it to his agent, 104 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: and his agent said, okay, did that feel pretty good 105 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: getting that off all that off your chest? And he said, yeah, 106 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: it felt really good. And he said, Okay, now that 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: you've gotten it off your chest, do you actually want 108 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: ten years ago, ten years from now for that stuff 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: to be in a book. And he said, not all 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: of it. And he went back and took some of 111 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: the stuff out. I thought that was really interesting. So 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: you make some score settling comments and then you think, yeah, 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: I don't really want that in a book. And they 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: were relaying that to maybe Kamla. This was her version 115 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: of like really letting it all out, and then when 116 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: she sits down to be interviewed, she can't doesn't have 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: the guts to stand by what she wrote. 118 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: Right, I mean it fails on everything else it does. 119 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: So we started to play this but ran out of time. 121 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: We thought we'd give you the whole thing. She was 122 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: on Good Morning America yesterday with the football player Michael Strand, 123 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: and he asks the question about Biden running for four 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: serving for four more years, and listen to her answer 125 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: to athlete sitting here today, do you think he would 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 3: have been up for running the country for four more years? 127 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 6: I here's the distinction, was the answer. 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: It's and having had the experience myself, it is one 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: thing to have the capacity to govern. 130 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 6: It is another thing. 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: To go through an election for president of the United States. 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 4: So you are an athlete, you may appreciate this kind 133 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: of metaphor. Running for president the United States is like 134 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace with people 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: throwing tomatoes at you every step you take. 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 6: It is not for the lightharted. 137 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: It takes an incredible amount of endurance and stamina. 138 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: You know. That was one of the more coherent things 139 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: I've ever heard her say. But that doesn't fit with 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: her first sentence. 141 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: Oh no, so, and she's making the argument is Helper 142 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: pointed out that running for president is harder than being president. 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, you don't think anybody's. 144 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: Throwing at tomatoes at you when you're president, and some 145 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: of those tomatoes might be bombs if you make the 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: wrong decision. 147 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean, what a moronic thing to say. 148 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: And the question, by the way, if you've forgotten, was 149 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: do you think Biden could have served four more years? 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: I had forgotten that was the question, right. So a 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: couple more points in her unreadable and unread book, she 152 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: says that she number two on Amazon right now, number 153 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: two book on Amazon. Yeah, that's easy to manipulate anyway, 154 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: But she and her people are buying up thousands and 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: thousands of copies themselves. But so she writes about transgender 156 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: boys and girls sports, and here's what she says. I 157 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: agree with the concerns expressed by parents and players that 158 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: we have to take into account biological factors such as 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: muscle mass and unfair student athletic advantage when we determine 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: who plays on which teams, especially in contact sports. With 161 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: with ways to do this without vilifying and demonizing children. 163 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: I mean that is, I would like it, in the 164 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: course of like an English class, to spend the entire 165 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: hour analyzing that handful of sentences. It is incoherent, grammatically incorrect, 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: it suffers from several logical fallacies, and it's just idiotic. Well, 167 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: the idiotic part's what bothers me. 168 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: So are you suggesting that we take So if you 169 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: got a dude that wants to participate in girls sports, 170 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: you say, yeah, you're kind of an effeminine boy, So 171 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: I guess your muscle mass is low enough will let 172 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 3: you compete against girls? 173 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: You know? I mean, how are you going to determine that? Right? 174 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Case by case basis You're gonna check their junk or whatever. 175 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: It's idiotic in the idea of Villa without vilifying and 176 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: demonizing sheldn nobody is doing that. That is a straw 177 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: man of straw men on the other hand, I find 178 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: myself fascinated by her speech, and I enjoy listening and 179 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: clips of it. And I'm reminded of what my hero 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: hl Menken said about Warren G. Harding way back in 181 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: the day, and this applies to Kamala. What he said 182 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: about Harding was he writes the worst English that I've 183 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: ever encountered. It reminds me of a string of wet sponges. 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: It reminds me of tattered wash on the line. It 185 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: reminds me of stale bean soup, of college yells, of 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad 187 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: itself out of the dark abysm of pish and crawls 189 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: insanely up the topmost pinnacle of bosh. It is rumble 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: and bumble. It is flat and doodle. It is balder 191 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: and dash. Now that's right. It is almost like jazz answers. Yeah, 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: well said okay, and so a more eloquent take than mine. 193 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: Scott Bessen, Who's one of Trump's closest advisors. He's brilliant, 194 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: and he's on the economics team, and he's openly gay, 195 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: responding to that whole idiotic commalas saying that she didn't 196 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: peek pick little Pete because he's gay and that was 197 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: asking too much of America. You remember we played the 198 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: Rachel mattout club. We probably should have brought it back 199 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: in which say She's says, look saying you couldn't pick 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: a gay dude really disappointed me and comes like, I 201 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: didn't say that. I didn't say that. And then after 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: a bunch of flap and doodle and balderin dash, she says, 203 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: and so I couldn't pick it the gay dude because 204 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: then that would be uncool. So Scott Besons is commenting 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: on that she. 206 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 7: Wouldn't take on Pete Boota judge because he was gay, 207 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 7: She wouldn't take on Pete Boodha judge because he was gay, 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 7: because she said it was a risk to have a 209 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 7: running mate who was a gay man. 210 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Your reaction. Three things, Maria. 211 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 8: First, it shows her emphasis on identity politics and the 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 8: American people have moved on too. 213 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: It shows how low regard she. 214 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 8: Holds the American people that they you know, she was 215 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 8: just a terrible candidate. And three, you wouldn't pick Pete 216 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,119 Speaker 8: Budajudge because he might have been the worst transportation secretary 217 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 8: in history. Like if I thought I was left to 218 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 8: mess a treasury, I can tell you your friend, my 219 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 8: friend show on Duppy our great transportation secretary, Pete Footage. 220 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Judge left him a mess. 221 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 8: The FAA is a disaster, the Amtrak, anything to do 222 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 8: with transportation was woefully neglected over the past four years. 223 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 8: So you know, she judges him on his identity, his sexuality. 224 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 8: Let's look and see whether he did a good job. 225 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 8: Let's look on merit, and I can tell you on 226 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 8: merit he's a failure, and on merit she's a failure. 227 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was great analysis. She's obsessed with 228 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: identity politics. She has contempt for the American people, and 229 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: the question of effectiveness doesn't even creep into her thinking. 230 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: It's just back to identity politics. 231 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: The left has such a lower opinion of the country 232 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: than the right does. I remember when Barack Obama was 233 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: elected and George STEPHANOPPL was talking about how he cried, 234 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: he who's crying sitting with his wife because he just 235 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: didn't think we could ever elect a black person. And 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised in the least that we elected. He 237 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: didn't seem surprising to me. I'm from rural America, supposedly 238 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: the racist part of the country, and didn't surprise me 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: at all. But we're willing to elect a black person 240 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: if we thought they were capable of doing the job. 241 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: George Stephanoppas was so surprised he didn't think we were 242 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: there yet. 243 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: Well, did I hire me a handful of Americans? Huh yeah, these. 244 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: So what it means is I have a much higher 245 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: opinion of the country than Kamala Airs or George Stephanopolis do. 246 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, by the bye kam law. Also, it denied 247 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: that the whole Kamalas for them, donald Trump is for you. 248 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: She didn't think that would have had any real impact. 249 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: It was a minor issue. Nobody cared. She's snoring the 250 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: fact that seventy percent of moderate voters saw the issue 251 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump's opposition of transgender boys playing girls and 252 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: women's sports and locker rooms and bathrooms and the rest 253 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: of it. Seventy percent of moderate voters said that issue 254 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: was important to them. I hope she runs. 255 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: I don't think she's going to ultimately, But the other 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 3: final dirt throwing on Kamala Harris's political grave. Every interview 257 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: she does, she says, I only had one hundred and 258 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: seven days and blah blah blah blah blah blah, And 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: even with all of those things against me, it ended 260 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: up being the closest presidential election in the twenty first century, 261 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: which isn't true by any measure anybody can come up with. 262 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: It's not true in terms of raw vote total. It's 263 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: not even close. Bush Gork was closer. Bush. 264 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: Who do you run against the second time? Uh? Kerrie? 265 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bush, Kerry was closer. Trump was closer and Biden 266 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: was closer. But other than that, you're right. But if 267 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: you and if you go by electoral total, it's not 268 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: true either. So but she gets away with it in 269 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: every interview because nobody does any homework and is willing 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: to say, wait a second, that doesn't sound right to me. 271 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't think this wasn't the closest election over the 272 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: last twenty five years. 273 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: Well, she lost all seven Swings. 274 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: Tape Jack Armstrong and Joey Who Armstrong and Getty show? 275 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: Do you have a fire extinguisher? 276 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: So do you know where it is? 277 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 6: There's got to be a fire extinguisher. Do you guys 278 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 6: have a manager you can call? 279 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, there you go, fire extinguisher right there here you 280 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 9: wanting to help you? You have to call the fire department. 281 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 9: I just say it the tune and lost a nail. 282 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: But I'm good, everybody. It's really awesome. 283 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: You had a grown up there at the dunkin Donuts 284 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: when a fire started. Who was you know, just had 285 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: that you know, grown up way of handling a problem 286 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: and uh took care of things. 287 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Well that this is like a rorshock test. I I 288 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: took from that that the employees didn't have a single 289 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: idea what to do in case of a fire, and 290 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: a customer had to say, all right, do you have 291 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: a fire extinguisher? Great, here's how it works. Do you 292 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: have a manager? Probably ought to call a manager. Now 293 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: one of you needs called fire department. And they all 294 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: just stood there looking at her. 295 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited that there was an adult there who 296 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: didn't just stand there looking at the situation. There was 297 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: some human there who was willing to do something. That's 298 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: what I'm excited about. 299 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: That was a restaurant full of kids who are never 300 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: allowed free play. 301 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Probably yeah, yep, so nobody Uh Yep, it'd be probably right. 302 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: That's yeah, an entire college level paper could be written 303 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: on that whole instance. 304 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: Right there. I was going to say, I could rant on, 305 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: but yeah, they did not have a childhood full of 306 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: encountering problems and solving them on their own. They were supervised, 307 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: wearing their cute little uniforms and directed by adults everything 308 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: they did in their childhoods. So yes, so they make 309 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: damn fine coffee there, damn fine. 310 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getdy show or Jack Orgio podcasts and. 311 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: Our hot links. 312 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: So this is not getting better. 313 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: We've stopped reading across this on a sub stack yesterday 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: and thought it was damned interesting. Joe brings up a lot. 315 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: What future are we headed toward? The Orwell future or 316 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: the Huxley future That would be the nineteen eighty four 317 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: future where they banned books or the Thomas Huxley Brave 318 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: New World future where you don't need to ban books 319 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: because there's no one who wants to read them, As 320 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: pointed out by Neil Postman in Amusing Ourselves to Death, 321 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: which I can't believe I've never read. It's one of 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: the classics of all time. I've never read that book. 323 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: And it's a subject that is on my mind all 324 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: the time. It's clearly the latter. You don't need to 325 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: ban books because people aren't going to read any books 326 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: that are put out there. 327 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: And let me get into that with this piece. 328 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: One of the most important revolutions that happened in human 329 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: history happened about three hundred years ago. Now, the printing 330 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: press was invented around fifteen hundred, but it took a 331 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: couple of hundred years before reading really caught on a thing, 332 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: partially because no one could read. I mean, you also 333 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: had the actual printing and distribution of reading material, and 334 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: somebody had to write it, but nobody could read. 335 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: Really. But by seventeen hundred in Britain and France. 336 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: And Germany, and then you know, growing in the United States, 337 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: literacy was just exploding and people loved reading, absolutely couldn't 338 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: get enough of it, pamphlets, books, poetry, whatever to get 339 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: themselves more knowledge or having an idea what's going on 340 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: locally or around the world. 341 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: Now I get to the piece that I read yesterday 342 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: that horrified me. 343 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: More than three hundred years after the reading revolution ushered 344 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: in a new era of human knowledge, books are dying 345 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: numerous studies showed that reading is in free fall. Even 346 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: the most pessimistic twentieth century critics of the screen age 347 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: would have struggled to predict the scale of the present crisis. 348 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: In America, reading for pleasure has fallen by forty percent 349 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: in the last twenty years. Since two thousand and five, 350 00:18:54,760 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: reading for pleasure has dropped forty percent. That's incomprehensible and stunning. 351 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: In the UK, more than a third of adults say 352 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: they've given up reading entirely. The National Literacy Trust reports 353 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: shocking and dispariting falls in children's reading, which is now 354 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: at its lowest levels since they've been keeping track. The 355 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: publishing industry is in crisis. Has pointed out books that 356 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: once would have sold in the tens even hundreds of 357 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: thousands are now lucky to sell in the mid four figures. 358 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: So a book that might have sold hundreds of thousands 359 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: of copies just a few years ago is going to 360 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: sell five thousand copies now. 361 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Wow, nationwide. Talk about a different industry. Oh that you know, 362 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: the money changing part of it is the least of 363 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 2: our problems, right. But Tim Sandifer, who's written a number 364 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: of books, was pointing this out to me. We were 365 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: texting the other day about how he said, nobody reads anymore. 366 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: You can't sell books. Nobody reads. That's horrifying. 367 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: An article published in the Atlantic called the elite college 368 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: students who can't read. 369 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: Books and somebody read that article but you. 370 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: Cites the characteristic experience of one professor twenty years ago. 371 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: This professor's class has had no problem in engaging in 372 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: sophisticated discussions of pride and prejudice or crime and punishment, 373 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: some of the classic texts of all time. Now, as 374 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: students tell him upfront that the reading load feels impossible, 375 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: it's not just the phrenetic pace. They struggle to attend 376 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: to small details while keeping track of the overall plot. 377 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: Most of our students, according to the professor, are functionally illiterate. 378 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: Oof. 379 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: The person that wrote this said, this chimes with everything 380 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: I've heard in my own conversations with teachers and academics. 381 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: One Oxbridge lecturer I spoke to described a collapse in 382 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: literacy among his students. 383 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: And these are. 384 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: People at some of your better universities. This isn't the 385 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: average population. The transmission of knowledge, the most ancient function 386 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: of the university, is breaking down. 387 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: In front of our eyes. 388 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: Writers like Shakespeare, Milton, and Jane Austen, whose works have 389 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: been handed on, handed out for centuries, can no longer 390 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: reach the next generation of readers. They're losing the ability 391 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: to understand them. 392 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Isn't that stunning? 393 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: This is happening before our eyes, but getting like no conversation. 394 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing that people have said 395 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: throughout history because it's kind of an egotism, but I 396 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: think it's right. Finally we witness the peak of mankind. 397 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: You are correct on both. 398 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: It is the sort of thing that people say because 399 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: of presentism, and it's exciting to have your moment be 400 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: the most this or that. 401 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: But it's also true. Yeah, sometimes it takes the form 402 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: of I can't bring a child into this world because 403 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: it's so terrible. No, it's not. It's one of the 404 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: most comfortable, cushy worlds that's ever existed in any universe 405 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: of baby. On the other hand, we have witnessed mankind's 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: peak and are now witnessing the decline. 407 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: They point to one particular thing, saying, I'll give you 408 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: one guess as to what it is that really caused 409 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: the super rapid decline. Anybody do I even need to 410 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: say it, not mind porn. I won't even say it. 411 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: The freaking smartphone, of course. I mean it's made it 412 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: hard for me to read, yes, and we all know it. 413 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: So that's just a that's just a fact. But what 414 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: is what is a world where there just aren't books? 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: We're practically there, we might already be there, where they're 416 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: just hard books. I mean, people write them and you 417 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: can print them, but nobody's buying them or reading them. 418 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: What is a world where there are no books? 419 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: How does it? 420 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: Because they point into this article is very very long 421 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: in the way that substack is, but it goes through 422 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: how it is tied into the rise of democracies and 423 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: capitalism and civil rights and all the different things that 424 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: have the good things that have happened for mankind humankind 425 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: in the last. 426 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: Three hundred years, not to mention technological advances and food 427 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: production and a thousand things. Yeah, the college. 428 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: Professor as saying, Shakespeare's just going to disappear from the scene. 429 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: My students can't read it, they can't understand it, and 430 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: they won't read it because they hate reading so much. 431 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: So exactly, my kids hate reading. They just hate it, 432 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: and they've grown up in a household with a dad 433 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: who reads constantly. 434 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 2: But they just hate it, and so do all her friends. 435 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: And I it's hard to be critical of it because 436 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: I know that feeling. It's work for me to read 437 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: in a way that it wasn't years ago, just because 438 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: of you know what the dopamine addiction and the attention 439 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: span and everything has done to us. 440 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: But I feel like there's zero possibility. 441 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: That you can have progress with humankind if reading disappears wrong. 442 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: I am I just an old. 443 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: Person who claims that, you know, the invention of the 444 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: automobile is going to ruin society or. 445 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's true too, but oh yeah, no, you're right, 446 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. I've made an important life decision. I'm 447 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: going to dedicate the rest of my life to deceiving 448 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: and taking the money of the ignorance. I mean, just 449 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: because the question before us is how do you have 450 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: a happy life in the world of the decline of humanity? 451 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: And that's exploiting the ignorance of others for your own wealth. 452 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: So ripping people off is the key to joy. Well, yeah, 453 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: in words of a single syllable, yes, Michael, those suit 454 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: harlance of the common men. 455 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: Yes, those who do not read but have some money, 456 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 3: let's separate them from their coinage. 457 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: Precisely, we the learned owe it to them to administer 458 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: the firm handed spanking that they deserve. 459 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying not to have any judgment in this conversation 460 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: about the reading because I didn't read, because I'm a 461 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: good person and I'm going to blah blah blah. Whatever 462 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 3: it was. There was a lot less to do. The 463 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: pace of life was slower, and I really enjoyed it. 464 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: And like I said, it's my enjoyment of reading. I 465 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: read much less than I used to, certainly long form 466 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 3: books stuff like that, because my attention span has gotten 467 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: so short. So we've created a world where our brains 468 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: are ruined and people don't read as much. 469 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: But the chart about a young. 470 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: People, people under the age of eighteen, it was amazing 471 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: the two lines crossing at about two thousand and eight, 472 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: right when the smartphone hit, but it was already on 473 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: the decline. I wonder why that is just the Internet 474 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: in general, Maybe the Internet in general. 475 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: The omnipresence of media I think could be. But anyway, look, 476 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: when you've got when you've got two hundred channels, you're 477 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: more likely to find something you liked, and when there 478 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: were three. 479 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: But it is something like seventy five percent of young 480 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: people read nearly daily back in the eighties. 481 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, I did. I read every day just 482 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: for fun. 483 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: I knew not only just stuff assigned I'd read before 484 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: I went to bed, things that I like to read. 485 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: Now it's down to like ten percent of people under 486 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: eighteen that read pleasure daily. 487 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: For a while there, I was reading Brave New World 488 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: like every other year in nineteen eighty four, like once 489 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: or twice a decade, just because it's long and a 490 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: little tar tougher. But yeah, one of the themes of 491 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: Brave New World is that you don't have to work 492 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: very hard to oppress people. You just keep them high 493 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: and amused, and they have no interest in opposing totalitarianism. 494 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And the other aspect that I wanted to 495 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: mention of the people in the book was they were 496 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: very shallow ding you. 497 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: You're you're gonna, you know, take money from uh dullards, 498 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, exploit people, You're gonna figure out a way 499 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: to steal from them. What do you think governments are 500 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: going to do or are doing when people don't read anymore, or. 501 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: They're milk and us like cows. Yeah, oh man, they 502 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: call the theft taxes, but it's the same process. 503 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: You know, I won't live long enough to be able 504 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: to win this bet, but you are right. 505 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: We saw the peak of mankind in our lifetime. Right. Wow, 506 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Planet of the beavers, that's fine again. They're hard working, 507 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: they got the flat tail, they build stuff. Bees Maybe 508 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: can be their buzzy little assistance. Let the bees have 509 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: their shot at the world. Huh, you say a lot. 510 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: That's in some of your song lyrics. You want to 511 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: tell us what it is. Tota. 512 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 8: It means either live your culture or you kill your culture, 513 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 8: and there's no in between. 514 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get up every day and I'm going 515 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: to live my culture today. What was that nonsense? He 516 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: was muttering in the middle. That was French Jacket's own language. 517 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: That was Jordan Thibodeaux, who was featured on sixty Minutes 518 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: as part of a really interesting segment about essentially Cajun 519 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: and similar music in that culture. I thought that was 520 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: a really interesting statement, you either live your culture or 521 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: kill your culture, especially because I was corresponding with a 522 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: friend of mine about my upcoming trip to London with 523 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: my bride and and and he sent along some commentary 524 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: about have you been brushing up in your English to 525 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: get ready for it? Hilarious? And it was a commentary 526 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: on how Britain and Europe, having permitted rampant immigration that 527 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: nobody voted for but the elite wanted, had caused enormous 528 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: dislocating cultural problems. And it's something we've talked about several times, 529 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: and pointing out that like the mayors of most of 530 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: the big cities in Britain are all Muslims, inexplicably because 531 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: there's still a fairly small minority, but there are hundreds 532 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: of Sharia councils in Sharia courts and the rest of 533 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: it in Britain. And I found that really intriguing. 534 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: Which way to Buckingham Palace right over there? 535 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: Which way over there? Over there? Why are you talking 536 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: like that? So I was for whatever reason that came 537 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: within twenty four hours of hearing mister Thibadeau talking about 538 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: you live your culture or you kill your culture. 539 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: I always remember when I read the giant biography of 540 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: Pope John Paul the Second, he was constantly saying language 541 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: is culture, talking about that it is. They travel together, 542 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: they just do. And if a language dies out, that 543 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: culture has died out. And if you can and that's 544 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: why Russia goes in and forces people to speak Russian 545 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: various languages in various areas. 546 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: Because you use China. Yeah exactly. Yeah, you dare speak 547 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: one of your ethnic languages in China, you will be 548 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: hauled into re education. 549 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: That's why it's so hilarious that we're so willing in 550 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: the United States to like turn over giant swass of 551 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: the country to another language. We just put up signs 552 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: in that language, start putting things in that language, and 553 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: say that's fine, we don't care. 554 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: We don't need to hang on to our language. Well exactly, 555 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: you called it funny, and I get you're being kind 556 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: of ironic, but I was just going to say it 557 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: is one of the more horrifying and obscene things I've 558 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: observed in my life that we of the West, Europe, 559 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: in the United States and Canada, primarily the English speaking 560 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: world and Europe have been convinced that we have the 561 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: one culture that not only is not beautiful and worth 562 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: preserving or awesome or successful or whatever, but it's evil 563 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: and we deserve to have it stamped out, and anybody 564 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: who doesn't participate in that stamping out enthusiastically is an 565 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: awful person and should be shamed or forced out of 566 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: their job or what have you. And you know, if 567 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: you just look at England, never mind the United States, 568 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: look at England, they've practically brought us democracy. It's existed 569 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: in different forms in different places. But my god, the 570 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: Magna carta and and the emergence of the parliament as 571 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: a counter to the king and working with the monarch, 572 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: and just over hundreds of years hammering out the details 573 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: of how does a people self govern? Hm, and then 574 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: that giving birth to the United States. I mean, you 575 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: want to talk about a culture worth being proud of 576 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: and preserving? How about British culture and it's off shoots? 577 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: So do you have more you want to say on 578 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: that topic Before I get to my next this all 579 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: came together like in the last three minutes in my head. Wow, 580 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: So why would those who were browbeating us to flush 581 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: our own culture down the toilet, hate our own history, 582 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: hate our own people. Why would they do that? I 583 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: think a lot of you are probably a little bit 584 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: ahead of me at this point, but I came across 585 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: this this morning. It's a piece in the National Review, 586 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: and let's see. Oh it's by the notorious MBD Michael 587 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: Brendan Doherty, who came across some audio of Hillary Clinton, 588 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: of all people, doing an interview at one of those 589 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: never ending Look how smart and cool and rich we 590 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: are speech athons. God who goes to those things? Well, 591 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: it's a certain class of people, but I've never heard 592 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: of most of these things. This is the ninety two 593 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: and Why, part of the Newmark Civic Life series. 594 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the ninety two Street Why is a huge 595 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: deal in New York. If you're important, they have those 596 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: all the time with Yeah, I see those on YouTube 597 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: videos regularly. 598 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: I've never been so. Hillary was jabbering about she launched 599 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: into the screed, and we could get the audio, but 600 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: it's better to shorten it because, you know, ramble a 601 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: little bit. She launched into this, mocking the idea of 602 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: the Trump administration or anybody else trying to get Americans 603 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: to have more babies, and she's right in that it's 604 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: ultimately going to fail. But she launches into a screed 605 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: in which she says the quiet part out loud, that 606 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: the progressive the affluent progressive lifestyle. However you want to 607 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: describe it, lifestyle liberalism, certain forms of feminism. It's the 608 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: privilege of affluent Americans and is supported by mass immigration, 609 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: legal and illegal. Progressivism is not economically or socially sustainable, 610 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: except if we import brown people and foreign people. She said, 611 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: it's crazy trying to make America great again by returning 612 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: to lifestyles and the economic arrangements of not just the fifties. 613 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, let's keep going back as far as we can. 614 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: The nuclear family, returned to being a Christian nation, a 615 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: return to producing a lot of children. These are quotes, 616 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: even though she says they alleged. 617 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: Particularly offended her, throwing out the nuclear family as something 618 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 3: to give up on easily. 619 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Wow. Then she takes a shot of Republicans say that 620 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: they have no interest in paid family leave or funding 621 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: quality childcare. They're cutting head start. But she said, it's 622 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: sort of odd because the people who produce the most 623 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: children in our country are immigrants, and they wanted to 624 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: port them. None of this adds up. This is all 625 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 2: a quote. In fact, one of the reasons why our 626 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: economy did so much better than comparable advanced economies across 627 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: the world is because we had lots of immigrants, legally 628 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: and undocumented, who had a larger than normal by American 629 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: standards family. So, quoting Doherty, taken together, Clinton says that 630 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: immigrants make the American lifestyle of today add up in 631 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: part because of their higher birth rates, and she's right, 632 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: although he later points out within two generations, certainly three, 633 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: immigrant birth rates plunge down to native American birth rate. 634 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: Also to point out the reality, any neighborhood you ever 635 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: lived in, Hillary become primarily a different language speaking in 636 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 3: the restaurant you used to go to, become a food 637 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: and language that you don't know in your school. 638 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: The teachers she couldn't learn in schools because there are 639 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: so many languages that a lot. 640 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: Or when you go to the emergency room a lot, 641 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: a lot of Spanish speaking or whatever. That really slows 642 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 3: things down. That no, it doesn't happen to you. It's funny, 643 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: it happens there nobody else. 644 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Gatty, the Armstrong and Daddy Joe