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Speaker 2: Joy sixteen.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we talk
Speaker 1: to the Internet's main characters to see how their moment
Speaker 1: in the spotlight affected them and what that says about
Speaker 1: us and the Internet. And just when you thought the
Speaker 1: story of Haley Welch aka Hawked to a Girl, the
Speaker 1: main character of twenty twenty four, had made her grand
Speaker 1: exit from the public consciousness, well, this is the consequence
Speaker 1: of me covering main characters of recent history. It's never true.
Speaker 1: I'm always wrong. There's more to say. So this is
Speaker 1: the first episode that we've done of this kind, but
Speaker 1: it's one that I felt was necessary because earlier this
Speaker 1: year I did a multiple part series on Hailey Welch,
Speaker 1: who went viral last year in a way that is
Speaker 1: barely possible anymore after being featured without her consent, as
Speaker 1: we get into in that series on a Man on
Speaker 1: the Street YouTube slash TikTok channel, in which she became
Speaker 1: famous for saying, you must.
Speaker 3: Given that hawk dude spent all that night.
Speaker 1: And is she wrong? But for all of what followed,
Speaker 1: the clickbait fame followed by the modern template of what
Speaker 1: viral fame looked like at this very particular moment in time,
Speaker 1: it was a lot and it kind of sucked. But
Speaker 1: for those who listened to that series a few months ago,
Speaker 1: we have, as you know, undergone a million historical catastrophes
Speaker 1: since then, and so I do want to just refresh
Speaker 1: your mind a little bit. So come with me if
Speaker 1: you dare to December twenty twenty four. Fortunately, we have
Speaker 1: been here recently, not just in calendar linear time, but
Speaker 1: because we recently talked about this specific period of a
Speaker 1: few weeks in our Doctor Ali Luke's episode. But this
Speaker 1: is where we left off at the end of the
Speaker 1: Haley Welch series. To summarize, twenty one year old Haley
Speaker 1: Welch went to the Broadway District in Nashville, Tennessee, Tennessee
Speaker 1: being the state she grew up in with her best
Speaker 1: friends after seeing a country music festival and were beckoned
Speaker 1: over by a man on the street aspiring social media
Speaker 1: douchebag bro duo called Tim and D, who asked them
Speaker 1: this inspired question.
Speaker 4: What's one move in bed that makes a man go
Speaker 4: crazy every time?
Speaker 1: And while they asked this question to men women, and
Speaker 1: I will qualify that with many drunk women, always drunk
Speaker 1: women who can't quite give consent. Nothing weird going on there.
Speaker 1: While most of these women answered with a version of
Speaker 1: the same thing, one woman answered it the funniest, and
Speaker 1: that woman was Hailey Welch, whose interaction with Tim and
Speaker 1: D alongside her best friend Chelsea, lasts much longer in
Speaker 1: the original video, but during the age of the TikTok clip,
Speaker 1: it boils down to this, I gotta give him that hawk, dude.
Speaker 2: But all that time here.
Speaker 1: And what Haley experiences from this moment on is uniquely
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, sort of a collage of what the
Speaker 1: viral online experience could look like at the highest level.
Speaker 1: At this particular moment, she gets the classic overnight theme treatment,
Speaker 1: one characterized by mere instantaneous online headlines and fame, but
Speaker 1: it's long past the day is where this aim is
Speaker 1: easily parlayed into where her viral fore mothers landed. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. The twenty ten's moved to
Speaker 1: la version of viral fame. The go talk to Hollywood agencies,
Speaker 1: do a couple guest spots on sitcoms, and try to
Speaker 1: figure out how you might fit into a more traditional
Speaker 1: media culture. But that really didn't exist by the time
Speaker 1: Haley became famous in twenty twenty four, and in fact,
Speaker 1: you could argue that Internet culture had since eclipsed that
Speaker 1: traditional media structure. No, by the time Haley's moment came along,
Speaker 1: a new path for monetizing virality had been forged, and
Speaker 1: while some influencers weren't able to make the jump from
Speaker 1: the Internet pandering to Hollywood to the Hollywood pandering to
Speaker 1: the Internet era between the mid two thousands and now
Speaker 1: a couple dead think of them as the girls who
Speaker 1: made the jump from the silent pictures to the talk
Speaker 1: if the girls who made the jump from the silent
Speaker 1: picture to the talkies were a pair of adult blonde
Speaker 1: brothers with very dark spirits. I, of course, am referring
Speaker 1: to the Paul brothers specifically Jake.
Speaker 5: Paul, we need to change from Kamala Harris to the
Speaker 5: Republican candidate Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Who is the younger brother of Logan Paul. Do you
Speaker 1: give a fight, you brother?
Speaker 6: Not in real life.
Speaker 2: You've practiced a little bit.
Speaker 6: Never We've never even sparred. But I was willing to
Speaker 6: step in from Mike Tyson when Tyson got sick, and
Speaker 6: we actually ran it up the chain in that flot.
Speaker 1: Who I promised to mention as little as humanly possible
Speaker 1: in this episode, But they just weasele their way into
Speaker 1: so many corners of Internet history. Since we have last
Speaker 1: recorded this show, they have attended Trump's second presidential inauguration
Speaker 1: with THEO Vaughn kill me, Kill me with a gun.
Speaker 1: But Jake Paul, who brought Haley Welch and her best
Speaker 1: friend and Chelsea along with the entire Hawk to a
Speaker 1: crew that had assembled consisting of managers, publicists, lawyers. The
Speaker 1: list goes on onto the Better Network, a podcasting slash
Speaker 1: sports betting application. Jake Paul knows the online fame game
Speaker 1: better than nearly anybody. The polls were a big part
Speaker 1: of observing this major change in what influencing looked like.
Speaker 1: They started on Vine, an app that no longer exists.
Speaker 1: They moved to La when that was the thing to do.
Speaker 1: They pioneered the idea of moving a bunch of influencers
Speaker 1: into a mansion and then ruining the mansion back up.
Speaker 4: Wow, I never thought I would say this.
Speaker 2: Well, welcome home Jake.
Speaker 1: Paller's we made it, Mom, we flipped made it.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Jake Pollish.
Speaker 1: What flippant gouc chan.
Speaker 2: Today is off to a relating stock. We're moving into
Speaker 2: the new team ten.
Speaker 1: It is genuinely hard to find a douchebag influencer thing
Speaker 1: that these men have not done. In the mid twenty tens,
Speaker 1: they were doing bad rap battles with their fellow influencers.
Speaker 1: They shamelessly hawked merch. But as the first Trump administration
Speaker 1: dragged on, they were part of this evolving influencer grift.
Speaker 1: And I think you'll recognize what I'm talking about here,
Speaker 1: the new influencer grift, which consists of this sinister blend
Speaker 1: of bad long video podcasts, weird products marketed at children,
Speaker 1: pivoting to a hard republican out of nowhere, pay per view, boxing,
Speaker 1: sports gambling apps, and of course cryptocurrency. So By the
Speaker 1: time Haley Welch came along, Jake Paul wasn't just a
Speaker 1: whole new kind of influencer. He had been a part
Speaker 1: of creating what this influencer was going to look like.
Speaker 1: So no longer in the Team ten house or doing
Speaker 1: whatever I blocked from my YouTube feed in the mid
Speaker 1: two thousands. At this point in twenty twenty four, Jake
Speaker 1: Paul was so busy with being a right wing influencer
Speaker 1: that he was actively looking to find other influencers to
Speaker 1: host a shitty video podcast on his crypto sports betting
Speaker 1: app so that he could spend more time, say it
Speaker 1: with me fighting a rateist on pay per view boxing.
Speaker 1: And this is the path to fame monetization that Hailey
Speaker 1: Welch was launched into, and her first major platform was
Speaker 1: a video podcast that strictly featured guests with massive social
Speaker 1: media followings and usually video podcasts of their own. This
Speaker 1: was and is the podcast known as Talk Toua, which
Speaker 1: is objectively a really good name for that podcast, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that it was a good podcast necessarily.
Speaker 1: Haley at the beginning is very uncomfortable on Mike, and
Speaker 1: that is not a criticism of her she literally became
Speaker 1: famous a couple weeks earlier.
Speaker 3: Make sure you hit follow on Talk to Her wherever
Speaker 3: you get your podcast. We're releasing episodes every Tuesday. And
Speaker 3: for those of you watching on YouTube, be sure you like,
Speaker 3: comment and subscribe.
Speaker 1: Subscribe to that thing. No Riz, but this podcast, of
Speaker 1: course gets a lot of press because of how close
Speaker 1: it happens to her moment of massive virality, and it
Speaker 1: even spawns an irony pilled reaction podcast called Talking Talk TOUA.
Speaker 5: Welcome to Talking Talk Toua, the official Companion podcast to
Speaker 5: Talk to A.
Speaker 6: I'm Peter and I'm Cam and we're your hosts.
Speaker 7: Here to the only official Companion podcast.
Speaker 1: So Talk to A does what it was supposed to do,
Speaker 1: get a lot of attention and sell Jake Paul's Better
Speaker 1: Crypto sports gambling app to her relatively young audience, even
Speaker 1: if the ad reads left some to be desired.
Speaker 3: Do you want to make fifty thousand dollars on the
Speaker 3: biggest fight of the year, The Jake Paul Mike Tyson
Speaker 3: Fight is finally here and better is giving you a
Speaker 3: chance to swim up to fifty thousand dollars simply by
Speaker 3: answering five questions about the fight. All you gotta do
Speaker 3: is download better.
Speaker 1: I'm sold, but it's only a matter of time before
Speaker 1: Haley Welch's team was approached about starting a meme coin
Speaker 1: on their own. They were already so adjacent to crypto,
Speaker 1: and they were approached by a man named Doc Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I'm not joking to use a service called pump dot fun.
Speaker 1: I'm also not joking. Pump dot fun is a service
Speaker 1: that allows influencers to mint their own crypto coin and
Speaker 1: basically make a quick buck. And while casual followers of
Speaker 1: Hailey Welch may have found this pivot to crypto to
Speaker 1: be very confusing if you were paying close attention to
Speaker 1: how her social media had developed since this first moment
Speaker 1: of fame and signing with an agency. The scene had
Speaker 1: been set for this for months, as Twitter became a
Speaker 1: confirmed cess pit for crypto speculators and scammers. Hailey Welch's
Speaker 1: team set up a Twitter account for her that exclusively
Speaker 1: spoke in crypto memes. Meanwhile, over on Haley's personal account
Speaker 1: on Instagram, she was acting like a normal young woman
Speaker 1: in her twenties. There was a huge narrative voice difference
Speaker 1: between these two accounts, and so a lot of people
Speaker 1: asked Haley on Twitter is this you? Is this your team?
Speaker 1: Who is this? And in response, there would be front
Speaker 1: facing videos of Haley insisting that know this is her,
Speaker 1: She's very into crypto.
Speaker 3: It's me, bitch, what do you fucking mean?
Speaker 1: I do want to add that we had to pull
Speaker 1: that clip from a previous episode of sixteenth Minute because
Speaker 1: all of these videos were deleted, and it will become
Speaker 1: clear why in a second. Haley now readily admits that
Speaker 1: she was asked to film the videos, but she was
Speaker 1: absolutely not running the Twitter crypto meme account because she
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about crypto and she's too young to
Speaker 1: have any interest in Twitter. But all throughout the lead
Speaker 1: up to the early December twenty twenty four launch of
Speaker 1: what was known as Hawkcoin, Hailey Welch played along in
Speaker 1: spite of admittedly knowing very little about how crypto actually worked,
Speaker 1: much less how to or if it's even possible to
Speaker 1: work with it ethically, and this led to her, depending
Speaker 1: on how you feel, either being willfully or being tricked
Speaker 1: into a pretty massive scam by a man named Doc Hollywood.
Speaker 1: So let's say this man named Doc Hollywood has convinced
Speaker 1: you that you'll make a shitload of money on a
Speaker 1: crypto pump and dump scheme. But the only catch is
Speaker 1: that you need to post videos of you as if
Speaker 1: you totally understand what's going on. This is a strateg
Speaker 1: that of course went south very quickly, and if you
Speaker 1: want more details about how this exactly went down, go
Speaker 1: ahead and listen to earlier parts of this series. I
Speaker 1: hope these are things you already know, but it does
Speaker 1: feel important to remind you of what actually happened in
Speaker 1: this case because in recent months and since I last
Speaker 1: wrote about this story, key players involved have begun to
Speaker 1: characterize the events that I painstakingly, for some reason, tracked
Speaker 1: in the first run of these episodes, and have changed
Speaker 1: the narrative to better suit their own interests. Because in
Speaker 1: recent months, a lot of the key players in this story,
Speaker 1: both Haley and the people who worked in her general
Speaker 1: orbit during this time, have begun to mischaracterize the events
Speaker 1: I just described, And if you have access to the
Speaker 1: original posts and timelines doesn't match up at all. Why
Speaker 1: might that be in Hailey's case? I'll give you the
Speaker 1: generous reading first. When big weird stuff happens to you
Speaker 1: and is covered extensively in the media, that, regardless of
Speaker 1: what you did right or wrong, is definitely overwhelming and
Speaker 1: possibly traumatizing. Something I think about with Hailey Welch is
Speaker 1: that this appeared to suddenly put her in the position
Speaker 1: of being the breadwinner for her family and the employer
Speaker 1: of her best friend in an industry that not only
Speaker 1: she didn't understand, but barely anyone understood, because the way
Speaker 1: that online influencing and all of these weird crypto situations
Speaker 1: work seems to change every two minutes. If I were
Speaker 1: to give a less generous reading, this is something we've
Speaker 1: seen from Hailey Welch before, or more specifically, Hailey Welch
Speaker 1: and company. As we'll get into in this episode, Hailey
Speaker 1: Welch has made it clear that she is interested in
Speaker 1: remaining in the public eye, regardless of how compromising the
Speaker 1: thing that got her in the public eye was, and
Speaker 1: that she's down to exploit others and to be exploited again.
Speaker 1: So we're in December twenty twenty four. Trump has just
Speaker 1: been re elected. A United Healthcare executive is assassinated by
Speaker 1: someone I read the Reddit board. You guys, I apologize
Speaker 1: for my enthusiasm, and Jamie Loftus forces her fiance to
Speaker 1: take the day off work to see Wicked and Imax,
Speaker 1: and for the first and only time in human history
Speaker 1: saw straight couples in the theater where the woman was
Speaker 1: loudly explaining the plot to the man. It was incredible,
Speaker 1: and Miss Hagley talked to A. Welch releases what appears
Speaker 1: to be the final episode of her podcast, Talk to
Speaker 1: U on Jake Paul's Better Network, which and I always
Speaker 1: laugh when I see this is ominously titled how not
Speaker 1: to Get Canceled, and then the feed goes completely dark
Speaker 1: because Haley Welsh got canceled because it was at this
Speaker 1: time that the now infamous hawk Coin, a meme coin
Speaker 1: many correctly pointed out should have been called spitcoin. Missed opportunity,
Speaker 1: but at least they thought of talk to A. But
Speaker 1: hawk Coin was released to a crypto consuming public in
Speaker 1: one of the most high profile catastrophic rollouts to date.
Speaker 1: If Cryptojournalist's reaction was any indication, I have questions. I
Speaker 1: have questions.
Speaker 4: I'm raising my hand copy Zilla.
Speaker 5: Hey, this is one of the most miserable, horrible launches
Speaker 5: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: You've heard this voice on the show before. This is
Speaker 1: the voice of Stephen Findeeson aka coffee Zilla, the journalist
Speaker 1: and extremely successful YouTuber who was at the four front
Speaker 1: of calling out Hawkcoin for what it was, a crypto scam,
Speaker 1: which isn't uncommon, but coffee Zilla has a massive audience
Speaker 1: and he correctly called out that this wasn't just a scam,
Speaker 1: it was a tremendously lazy scam, which, when you add
Speaker 1: the most memorable face of the year to it, meant
Speaker 1: a lot more press than most common pump and dub
Speaker 1: schemes of this nature would pull in. And then he
Speaker 1: goes on to make a very viral YouTube video about it.
Speaker 1: This then makes it public knowledge that the meme coin
Speaker 1: is a huge scam and it all but craters Haley
Speaker 1: Weld's fledgling career. But among people who were interested in
Speaker 1: this story, the real question was how aware was Haley
Speaker 1: that this was a huge scam. But we wouldn't get
Speaker 1: the answer to that question for months because after the
Speaker 1: crypto scandal, not only is an SEC investigation announced into
Speaker 1: the issue, but Hailey Welch and basically everyone in her
Speaker 1: orbit go completely silent. They go dark, on social media
Speaker 1: for months. Talk to us stops, Hailey stops posting publicly,
Speaker 1: and everyone assumes that her moment in the spotlight has
Speaker 1: ended in sort of the most humiliating way possible. The
Speaker 1: reason largely speculated for this sudden silence wasn't humiliation, though
Speaker 1: it was very much the lawsuit filed with the SEC
Speaker 1: in New York from people who had been defrauded to
Speaker 1: the tune of six figures by Hawkcoin, leading to millions
Speaker 1: of dollars in defrauding. But investigating these cases takes some time,
Speaker 1: and the Internet famously has no patience, and so almost
Speaker 1: immediately we start to see lazy clickbait video essays saying
Speaker 1: things like this, what's going on with that hawk?
Speaker 2: She going to jail?
Speaker 1: What happened to Hawk too? Like, No, she obviously wasn't
Speaker 1: going to jail, and there was never a chance that
Speaker 1: she would have, because it was the orchestrators of the
Speaker 1: crypto coin named in the lawsuit the doc Hollywood's not
Speaker 1: the young woman being used as the face of the scheme,
Speaker 1: and that kind of content is a whole cottage industry
Speaker 1: of taking a recently relevant person, often a woman, and
Speaker 1: painting them in the worst way possible. And while Haley
Speaker 1: absolutely fucked up, she is painted in a pretty misogynist
Speaker 1: and slut shamy way and a lot of these videos.
Speaker 4: The hawk to a girl just got violated on Instagram.
Speaker 4: You see, she posted a real inviting Trey Young to
Speaker 4: be on her podcast, all because he plays for the
Speaker 4: Atlanta Hawks, so it would fit well with her brand
Speaker 4: and the Atlanta Hawks Instagram account commented saying, we good
Speaker 4: as Tray probably wants nothing to do with her.
Speaker 1: And congratulations, you're caught up. This is where we'd left
Speaker 1: off with Hailey Welch in our first series. It wasn't
Speaker 1: clear what the SEC investigation would yield, whether she would
Speaker 1: be made an example of or after the severe roller
Speaker 1: coaster in the public eye she'd had in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: maybe she would just cut her losses and pack it
Speaker 1: back into Tennessee and the world as the world does
Speaker 1: continued while Haley took what everyone joked was her.
Speaker 3: Nap and who I'm gonna go to bed and I'll
Speaker 3: see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Outside of a Twitter post saying that she is completely
Speaker 1: cooperating with the SEC investigation. That's the last we hear
Speaker 1: from Hailey welch in twenty twenty four, but early in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, as Trump's second inauguration approaches, something interesting happens.
Speaker 1: And by something interesting, I mean something really embarrassing and
Speaker 1: very depressing. From January seventeenth, twenty twenty five, three days
Speaker 1: before he took office, As Donald Trump was preparing for
Speaker 1: his inauguration, those plus to him were also hard at
Speaker 1: work launching a new cryptocurrency. I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: if you had already forgotten this happened. It was one
Speaker 1: thousand press cycles ago now, and it already feels very
Speaker 1: quaint compared to what the administration is currently doing. But
Speaker 1: Trump launched a meme coin. I mean. Crypto folks seem
Speaker 1: to agree that it was a less sloppy pump and
Speaker 1: dump than a hawk coin, but that's not saying much.
Speaker 1: Coffeezilla can explain it better than I can.
Speaker 4: Trump just launched a meame coin.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the void.
Speaker 5: It is not how I wanted to start my twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five Let me tell you that right now. Here's
Speaker 5: the tweet my new Donald Trump official meme is. Here's
Speaker 5: time to celebrate everything we stand for winning. Join my
Speaker 5: very special Trump community. Get your Trump Now go to
Speaker 5: get Trump memes dot com. When you go there, you
Speaker 5: join the Trump meme which is buying something and hoping
Speaker 5: it goes up in value.
Speaker 1: The story within the story that a lot of people
Speaker 1: missed as Trump was launching a meme coin was that
Speaker 1: during the week of the inauguration, it seemed that virtually
Speaker 1: everyone in Trump's orbit was signing up for pump dot
Speaker 1: fun and trying to make their own meme coin. Even
Speaker 1: the pastor hired to speak at the inauguration.
Speaker 8: Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, Let's talk about him. He is from
Speaker 8: one eighty Church in West Detroit. The town's newspaper had
Speaker 8: a write up on him via The Daily Beast. Just
Speaker 8: hours after he delivered that speech for President Trump, Reverend
Speaker 8: Sewell announced the launch of his own crypto token, dubbed Lorenza.
Speaker 1: This one is nuts. You have to laugh at this one.
Speaker 1: This is Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, and in this video he
Speaker 1: is literally still wearing the outfit he just swore Trump
Speaker 1: in wearing. If nothing else, I've never seen someone so
Speaker 1: acutely aware that they have twelve minutes of relevance left.
Speaker 1: It's very funny.
Speaker 9: I need to do me a favor.
Speaker 10: Right now, I need you to go buy the official
Speaker 10: Lorenzo Sewel coin. I want you to be able to
Speaker 10: see politics become manifest, not just in a way where
Speaker 10: we're praying over political gatherings, but when we're seeing us
Speaker 10: become the hands and the feet of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4: Would you help me?
Speaker 10: Would you help us in this endeavor? Would you go
Speaker 10: and purchase the coin in order for us to do
Speaker 10: what we need to do in the ministry and.
Speaker 1: With the state of the world being what it is.
Speaker 1: The Trump meme coin is very successful and basically prints
Speaker 1: money for him, leaving some of the world's most noxious
Speaker 1: Internet personalities to praise him and essentially enter the Jake
Speaker 1: Paul school of right wing grifting, as so many did
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, ruining the reputation of podcasts permanently.
Speaker 1: Oh no, here's an example of someone doing just that.
Speaker 1: This is a thirty five year old man named Fase Banks,
Speaker 1: who also pivoted to crypto and was investigated by the
Speaker 1: SEC for scamming crypto, who I regret to inform you
Speaker 1: becomes relevant to our story very shortly.
Speaker 6: And then you get booted out of the Fays House
Speaker 6: and your life's falling apart. You're sleeping on an air
Speaker 6: mattress and Phase Rugs calling you to check in every
Speaker 6: other day and adapt and keemstar. Your only friends got
Speaker 6: to get the fuck up and you gotta go do something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 9: So.
Speaker 1: While some crypto speculators, including people who appeared on this show,
Speaker 1: seemed hopeful that the Hawkcoin scandal might mean that Doc
Speaker 1: Hollywood and company would be made an example of in
Speaker 1: one of the few pump and dumb schemes to make
Speaker 1: it all the way to the national news when Trump
Speaker 1: was in office doing literally the same thing as hawk
Speaker 1: Coin did, a few weeks later it became clear that
Speaker 1: there was no way that was going to happen, and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, I Jamie lou Loft as Your Little Host,
Speaker 1: along with producer Ian Johnson, was trying to see if
Speaker 1: there was a chance in hell that Haley's team would
Speaker 1: ever let us interview her for this show, and to
Speaker 1: everyone's shock, we actually received a reply in January and
Speaker 1: Haley's team appeared to consider coming on this show for
Speaker 1: two full weeks, which indicates to me that in terms
Speaker 1: of media strategy, they must have been really flying by
Speaker 1: the seat of their pants. But while the SEC investigation
Speaker 1: dragged on, it was also unclear whether Haley Welch was
Speaker 1: going to get out of this predicament with her business
Speaker 1: relationship with Jake Paul intact, which is a nice way
Speaker 1: of saying, whether Jake Paul and company thought they could
Speaker 1: make any more money off of her. It seemed unlikely
Speaker 1: that Talk TOA was ever going to return on the
Speaker 1: Better Network, but I still didn't know why that was.
Speaker 1: This became clear in early February when news dropped that
Speaker 1: made it clear that not only had Team Hawk decided
Speaker 1: against engaging with my sorry ass in spite of the
Speaker 1: fact that I bravely paid for their ugly, uncomfortable hat,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, but this news also offered an
Speaker 1: explanation as to why the Jake Paul relationship fell apart.
Speaker 1: I present you the evidence, a leaked, unreleased episode of
Speaker 1: Talk TOUA about the crypto scandal. Maybe so. It's a
Speaker 1: little unclear exactly when this was filmed, but I would
Speaker 1: assume it was sometime in January twenty twenty five. They
Speaker 1: are still on the Better Network. Talked to a set
Speaker 1: with guests and I hate to say that he's back already.
Speaker 1: It is Phase Banks. And while Phase Banks is a
Speaker 1: total scumbag who is fully in Jake Paul's orbit, his
Speaker 1: being chosen as the guest is not without reason because
Speaker 1: while he could at best be described as a crypto
Speaker 1: enthusiast who hasn't been under federal investigation in the last
Speaker 1: two calendar years, Phase Banks was actually on that famous
Speaker 1: Twitter space's press conference, the same press conference that Haileywold
Speaker 1: said and who I'm gonna go to bed, the same
Speaker 1: press conferen prince that coffee z Illa used to essentially
Speaker 1: take down the scam in the first place. He was there.
Speaker 1: Here's a clip of him from that moment, responding to
Speaker 1: one of the Hawkcoin crypto guys.
Speaker 9: Hayley, I'm gonna talk to you directly right now, because
Speaker 9: if you really own ten percent of the supply of
Speaker 9: this token and it's locked up for a year and
Speaker 9: it's bested over three years, you got scammed harder than
Speaker 9: anybody involved. This one hundred percent was a mismanaged mislaunched
Speaker 9: like this. This is took what coffee Zilla said. I
Speaker 9: would label this as scam as well.
Speaker 1: So in some ways, FaZe Banks's initial criticism of the
Speaker 1: hawkcoin scam could make Haley's team putting him on the
Speaker 1: show look like an attempt to make her seem like
Speaker 1: she's willing to engage with detractors. Of course, this isn't
Speaker 1: actually true. FaZe Banks is just another crypto guy, and
Speaker 1: like a lot of crypto guys, he is someone who
Speaker 1: was involved in any number of alternatively loserish or scary
Speaker 1: activities prior to being a crypto guy. Not only does
Speaker 1: he stem from the same generation of millennial influencer vloggers
Speaker 1: turned crypto dirt bags like Jake Paul Bayes, Banks also
Speaker 1: has a long standing relationship positive and negative with the
Speaker 1: Paul Brothers, including some romantic history that I cannot commit
Speaker 1: to memory to save my life, and after getting into crypto,
Speaker 1: developed plenty of experience feigning neutral authority over some bullshit
Speaker 1: he's selling like crypto And don't worry, he has been
Speaker 1: accused of assaulting a woman. He's a terrible person, So
Speaker 1: two things need to be true here, folks. He is
Speaker 1: a scumbag, and he is the kind of guy who
Speaker 1: would be happy to publicly forgive a crypto scam because
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy to do a crypto scam.
Speaker 1: The podcast episode starts like this.
Speaker 3: Oh, guys, I'm back with another episode to Talk two,
Speaker 3: and I'm here with Banks.
Speaker 6: There he is.
Speaker 3: How's it going?
Speaker 6: It's going good. Life's crazy right now. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I say no to every single fucking podcast, ongoing joke
Speaker 6: on Impulsive that I stood them up four or five times.
Speaker 6: This isn't necessarily my thing, but you're in an interesting
Speaker 6: position right now, and I feel like it's my duty
Speaker 6: to come on here and talk to you. You seem
Speaker 6: like a sweet enough girl, and I feel like I
Speaker 6: know more or less what happened with you. We're gonna
Speaker 6: get into all that. I brought a couple of crypto
Speaker 6: nerds with me. We're gonna sit down and talk.
Speaker 4: H me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, No, I feel good. How do you feel?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm so a little shock up about it.
Speaker 1: And I was able to pull this audio from a
Speaker 1: re upload of this interview. It's forty minutes long, but
Speaker 1: technically this was never formally released on the Talk to
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel because it shouldn't have been released until
Speaker 1: after the SEC investigation was closed, per in agreement that
Speaker 1: the Hawk team had with the phase Banks team, and
Speaker 1: at the time this was recorded and leaked, the SEC
Speaker 1: investigation was very much not over according to Banks, and
Speaker 1: who wouldn't trust Faye's Banks. Haley's team intentionally leaked this
Speaker 1: interview to get some sympathy and potentially to push and
Speaker 1: benefit from some insider training on the coin, assuming that
Speaker 1: the interview would be positively received in the public. I
Speaker 1: do believe that. But by February the interview was out
Speaker 1: there and Haley's team mysteriously didn't seem to have a
Speaker 1: vested interest in getting it offline. So I have seen
Speaker 1: this episode and there are some things I want to
Speaker 1: share with you about it. The approach. Haley had no
Speaker 1: idea what was happening. It's all Doc Hollywood's fault, and
Speaker 1: she is like, so very sorry, Please trust her again.
Speaker 3: I'm saying thank you to all my true fans and
Speaker 3: all the people that actually watch my stuff and they
Speaker 3: keep up with me. We're trying to sort out all
Speaker 3: the pieces and stuff to like get all this figured
Speaker 3: out and make everything right. Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be like a what do they
Speaker 3: call it? A long term coin, and the guy that
Speaker 3: ran the account he was like, Oh, we're gonna change
Speaker 3: like the way everybody thinks a crypto. Crypto is gonna
Speaker 3: be a good place. And I feel really bad for
Speaker 3: all the people that got affected by it, and it
Speaker 3: just didn't go the way I planned.
Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna call me a sucker, but
Speaker 1: I do believe some of what Haley is expressing emotionally here.
Speaker 1: You don't have to care. But given that, if you
Speaker 1: know about this young woman, and I talked about and
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with literally everything she said
Speaker 1: in the public in the previous series, this is the
Speaker 1: same person who locked herself inside for two weeks after
Speaker 1: going viral without giving her consent, and so the fact
Speaker 1: that Haley was mortified and scared after the hawk Coin
Speaker 1: scandal does make sense to me, regardless of what I
Speaker 1: felt was at least partial emotional sincerity on her part.
Speaker 1: What's clear here is that this episode is going to
Speaker 1: be an attempt to retcon all of the bad press
Speaker 1: that this whole cryptoscam is caused and intends to distance
Speaker 1: Haley from it. And again, as phase Banks later says,
Speaker 1: the episode was not to be released until he approved
Speaker 1: and the investigation was closed and it's not just a
Speaker 1: roundabout apology ish excuse for how everything went down. According
Speaker 1: to Phase Banks and the three extremely random aging hype
Speaker 1: beasts that he brought with him, they're still defending crypto
Speaker 1: and they are encouraging Haley to do crypto the right
Speaker 1: way this time. It is nuts.
Speaker 6: Basically, what Frank just said in normal people terms is
Speaker 6: you take every that you made on this and you
Speaker 6: mark it by this token, and you lock it up,
Speaker 6: you walk away from it. You don't ever see that money,
Speaker 6: you can never touch it again. And you say, I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna maybe I'm not going to talk about this
Speaker 6: every day, whatever whatever, but I'm going to stand on business.
Speaker 6: I put my face on this. I'm accepting the responsibility
Speaker 6: of this happened, and hopefully you know, everybody is made
Speaker 6: whole at some point where you guys do what you
Speaker 6: want with this. At this point, this is me kind
Speaker 6: of like you know what I mean, And what that
Speaker 6: does is it kind of shows your intentions, right, Like
Speaker 6: I just want I just want to do right by
Speaker 6: by this and everybody who participated in this, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Throughout this, Haley is sitting there and nodding, but as
Speaker 1: the podcast continues. Phase Banks and the random aging highe
Speaker 1: beasts are more talking to Haley's off screen lawyer than her,
Speaker 1: and it is very, very awkward to watch. They mentioned
Speaker 1: in the interview that Phase Banks spoke to coffee Zilla
Speaker 1: ahead of the interview and wants to present a number
Speaker 1: of questions that coffee Zilla passed along. And I guess
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he spoke to an actual journalist, But
Speaker 1: this whole time, Phase Banks is sort of posturing as
Speaker 1: if he is a journalist and not who he is.
Speaker 1: It just feels worth restating I.
Speaker 6: Use that opportunity. I got investigated by the SEC for
Speaker 6: fucking like two years over this. It costs me way
Speaker 6: more money than I made. It was one of the
Speaker 6: most miserable experiences of my life because because that moment
Speaker 6: got me into crypto.
Speaker 1: Which leaves me with the question what. But this is
Speaker 1: clearly a very softball interview that is also intended to
Speaker 1: push crypto. Phase Banks and the random guys are moralizing
Speaker 1: and the grift is strong. They have it both ways.
Speaker 1: They forgive Hayley, as it were, on behalf of other
Speaker 1: crypto scammers who have gotten away with it and got
Speaker 1: better at scamming I guess, and they're ostensibly asking her
Speaker 1: to get better at scamming for next time. This is
Speaker 1: something that they describe.
Speaker 6: As stand on business.
Speaker 1: There is a real menace about the phrase standing on business.
Speaker 1: Never trust someone who claims to stand on business. So
Speaker 1: while this interview is teeming with bullshit, the impression of
Speaker 1: the episode was that if it had been released as
Speaker 1: promised after the investigation closed and fase Bank's team approved it,
Speaker 1: both parties would have felt that it was mutually beneficial.
Speaker 1: But the episode quote unquote leaked, and we'll get into
Speaker 1: what we mean by that. But before we knew anything
Speaker 1: about the circumstances of the leak, Hewleitzer Prize winning reporter
Speaker 1: bays Banks was sure what had happened, he tweets.
Speaker 7: So, in an attempt to hear Haley Welch's side of
Speaker 7: the crypto scam story, I agreed to do her first
Speaker 7: podcast back. I had heavy stipulations, including one, not allowing
Speaker 7: markets to be manipulated by leaking this episode's existence before
Speaker 7: a resolution was found. Two, her team finding a real
Speaker 7: solution regarding the money she made, where that should go,
Speaker 7: and what to do with the Hawk project moving forward.
Speaker 7: These were non starters, and we were told this episode
Speaker 7: would only ever see the light of day if we
Speaker 7: explicitly green lit it. These incompetent leaked and or inside
Speaker 7: traded the token. We noticed a random spike and volume
Speaker 7: on the coin too too, along with random messages asking
Speaker 7: us if we did the podcast. Very clearly her team
Speaker 7: was not as solid as they claimed to be. They
Speaker 7: completely blew it, and we called the episode off right
Speaker 7: then and there. Now, today the episode randomly gets leaked.
Speaker 7: The price of Hawk is pumping, and they completely fucking
Speaker 7: fumbled the bag yet again. What a fuck mess. Poor girl.
Speaker 7: It's wonder how she found herself in this position in
Speaker 7: the first place. Now, Haley Welch, I'm going to speak
Speaker 7: to you direct and say the exact same thing I
Speaker 7: said to you on spaces that night. Fire Everybody, your
Speaker 7: team's fucking the bleeps.
Speaker 1: There are not swear words, they are in fact slur words.
Speaker 1: Fuck Phase banks. But what really sticks out to me
Speaker 1: about this leaked episode isn't that this was the botched
Speaker 1: ending to an attempted apology tour, but that the Hawk
Speaker 1: TUA team seemed so convinced that this was going to
Speaker 1: work that not only did they have to weather accusations
Speaker 1: of insider trading. They also kept an ad they recorded
Speaker 1: for sports betting app game Time inside of the leaked episode.
Speaker 1: The apology was monetized.
Speaker 3: All Right, you guys only got one sponsor left because
Speaker 3: there are some real wins and they've stuck with me
Speaker 3: since every bit of this started. Game Time believes in me, y'all,
Speaker 3: and I believe in them.
Speaker 1: Game Time's more loyal than most of y'all's man's out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those guys just leave at the first
Speaker 3: opportunity they get, not game Time.
Speaker 1: So suffice it to say, the leak does not go well,
Speaker 1: and it's unsurprising that one of the first people to
Speaker 1: comment on this whole fiasco is coffee Zilla. He releases
Speaker 1: a second and to date final video addressing the hawkcoin
Speaker 1: crypto scandal more or less right after all of this
Speaker 1: happens and the face Banks episode is leaked, and he
Speaker 1: puts a lot of context about the leak and research
Speaker 1: he had been doing behind the scenes into the video.
Speaker 5: Talk to a Girl's Back with a released podcast that
Speaker 5: was immediately disavowed by nearly everyone in it, who said, oh,
Speaker 5: we think there might have been inside of trading involved.
Speaker 2: The podcast was not supposed to.
Speaker 5: Go live, they fit it up every step of the way.
Speaker 2: They leaked the podcast, and then they posted it.
Speaker 6: When it was supposed to be canceled. They stopped twice,
Speaker 6: and the third was the launch itself.
Speaker 1: Because coffee Zilla is capable and willing to actually do research,
Speaker 1: there is a lot of useful information in this first
Speaker 1: that Phase Banks did reach out to coffee Zilla. Imagine
Speaker 1: saying that to someone in seventeen eighty two, but Phase
Speaker 1: Banks reached out to coffee Zilla to see if he
Speaker 1: could pass along some of his questions, and apparently within
Speaker 1: the interview, Phase Banks tried to but none of them
Speaker 1: were answered to his satisfaction or even appeared in the
Speaker 1: edited leak video that came out. And I would assume
Speaker 1: that the reason Phase Banks did that is because it
Speaker 1: turns out coffee Zilla was Hailey Welch's team's first choice
Speaker 1: for a returning guest on Talk TOUA, likely because having
Speaker 1: the sound clips of the person who most successfully blew
Speaker 1: up your crypto scam coming onto your turf could have
Speaker 1: been a good look for her. But coffee Zilla, after
Speaker 1: being reached out to by Haley's lawyer, said no he
Speaker 1: explains why.
Speaker 5: Here I want to go through it because yes, we
Speaker 5: do get mentioned in it, sort of as the Boogeyman
Speaker 5: of crypto. We're going to get you. If you rug
Speaker 5: a coin, you know we might come after you.
Speaker 3: Coffee Zilla got on there, scary guy. Let me tell you,
Speaker 3: don't ever want to have a conversation with him.
Speaker 5: WHOA don't ever want to have a conversation with me. Guys,
Speaker 5: I'm not intimidating. I don't know what's the problem here.
Speaker 1: What he goes on to explain, and I'll link this
Speaker 1: video in the description because if I have to understand
Speaker 1: another crypto concept, my brain is going to start leaking
Speaker 1: out of my nose. But what coffee Zilla says is
Speaker 1: that he fuws both the leak and the content of
Speaker 1: the interview to be very insidious for a couple reasons. First, because,
Speaker 1: as fhase Banks offensively explained, he and his three Crypto
Speaker 1: Musketeers were told that they would have to give the
Speaker 1: okay for the episode to be released, and after they
Speaker 1: got wind of potential inside trading within Haley's team, they
Speaker 1: didn't want to release the episode. Because I'll remind you,
Speaker 1: just before this video was leaked it appeared that someone
Speaker 1: with insider information started reinflating or pumping the value for hapcoin,
Speaker 1: again assuming that the episode's release would increase its value,
Speaker 1: and even the likes of Phase Banks knows it's a
Speaker 1: bad look to be within a country mile of insider trading.
Speaker 1: Quite that obvious, But what I find to be more
Speaker 1: interesting for the purposes of looking at Haley's predicament specifically,
Speaker 1: is that coffee Zilla lays out how the victim narrative
Speaker 1: doesn't fit the situation when the facts are put together.
Speaker 1: So while again I do believe the emotional sincerity and
Speaker 1: the upset that Haley is putting forth in this video,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like the math is mathing in terms
Speaker 1: of how much money did she actually receive. After receiving
Speaker 1: a leaked document, Coffeezilla learned that Heley Welch's team, who
Speaker 1: claimed that she had earned a relatively small upfront fee
Speaker 1: but wasn't cut into the millions of defrauded dollars in
Speaker 1: the scam, had probably not been telling the truth about that,
Speaker 1: and when coffee Zilla confronted Heley's lawyer over DMS about this,
Speaker 1: the lawyer didn't even bother to deny it, So.
Speaker 5: This literally drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: And then he goes, where is this from?
Speaker 5: If you don't mind me asking, I say, well, it's
Speaker 5: an insider chat allegedly between Doc and the team members,
Speaker 5: And then he says, you're right that as it stands,
Speaker 5: she may be entitled to whatever amounts. However, she was
Speaker 5: supposed to have mutual approval on tokenomics. Her not being
Speaker 5: given the opportunity to prove the transaction fee, staffs, and
Speaker 5: pre cell identities led to the end result. So literally
Speaker 5: he's admitting what that he's been not telling the truth
Speaker 5: about how much money they stood to make. You're right,
Speaker 5: she may be entitled to millions of dollars from a.
Speaker 2: Scam like what?
Speaker 1: And it's really saying something when Phase Banks technically ends
Speaker 1: up being on the right side of this by not
Speaker 1: wanting the podcast to be released at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it seems likely that Haley and her team
Speaker 1: may have made way more money off of the crypto
Speaker 1: scam than they originally admitted to and were evasive when
Speaker 1: asked to show paperwork by both Phase Banks and Coffee Zilla.
Speaker 1: So the allegations of insider trading ahead of the leak
Speaker 1: looks bad and adding that to Phase Banks conceptually and
Speaker 1: an ad still mysteriously making it into a leaked video
Speaker 1: makes the whole attempt kind of transparent. But I've got
Speaker 1: to hand it to her. Hailey ends this episode the
Speaker 1: same way she would end episode of Talk to.
Speaker 3: A h I feel like it wouldn't be an episode
Speaker 3: of Talk to if I didn't ask my last question. No,
Speaker 3: I ask it three times. I'll go around the room.
Speaker 3: What's one they've in bed the Mexic woman go.
Speaker 1: Crazy unhinged way to end the apologizing for embezzling millions
Speaker 1: of dollars episode no notes, and while this episode was
Speaker 1: not technically released, this leak gets a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: People were waiting to hear what she was going to
Speaker 1: say after this scam, especially after Phase Banks released that
Speaker 1: poetic rebuttal. Here are some headlines.
Speaker 7: Haley Welch update Talk to a Girl tearfully addresses crypto
Speaker 7: scandal in leaked podcast.
Speaker 1: Phase Banks calls out Hailey Welch for Talk to a
Speaker 1: Podcast controversy.
Speaker 7: Hawk to a Girl. Hailey Welch and her lawyer explain
Speaker 7: meme coin dumpster fire.
Speaker 1: By the way, a number of these articles do not
Speaker 1: censor the r slur, but do go out of their
Speaker 1: way to make sure the reader knows that Fase Banks's
Speaker 1: job title is CEO of Phase Media, a subsidiary of
Speaker 1: Phase Clan, which cannot possibly be a real job anyways.
Speaker 1: Coffee Zilla's video on the second round of the Hawktua
Speaker 1: crypto scam receives around four million views to date, more
Speaker 1: than any individual episode of Talk Toua has ever gotten,
Speaker 1: I fear. Here's his conclusion on the situation.
Speaker 5: Hailey Welts's team this whole time has been acting like
Speaker 5: so unbelievably dishonest in how they're framing all this to
Speaker 5: try to make her look like as sympathetic as possible,
Speaker 5: instead of admitting like, actually, we did have some complicity
Speaker 5: in this. Maybe we should have asked more questions. We
Speaker 5: did stand to make way more money than we've let
Speaker 5: on in a lot of these interviews and with journalists.
Speaker 1: And again, I do have a lot of empathy for
Speaker 1: Haley at the time she was pulled into this predicament,
Speaker 1: as I talked to about at length in the first
Speaker 1: round of this series. And sure, Haley is being used
Speaker 1: as uponn to some extent, but her whole business operation
Speaker 1: is willfully defrauding the public and then working overtime to
Speaker 1: deny it unless confronted with irrefutable evidence. So even if
Speaker 1: Haley is just the face of that, the situation is
Speaker 1: really bad. So if the goal with this leak was
Speaker 1: to get some public goodwill around Hailey, this did not work,
Speaker 1: and the team once again goes silent until March twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: until after the second round of extremely negative press in
Speaker 1: two months died down. But this period of silence does
Speaker 1: not last as long. Six weeks later, Haley posts to
Speaker 1: Instagram for the first time in months with a genuinely
Speaker 1: bizarre short.
Speaker 9: Film breaking news.
Speaker 7: Haley the Hawk to a Girl has died. The Hawk
Speaker 7: to a girl No one knows finance quite like miss tuur.
Speaker 1: Get your ass up, we got stuffed in he ugh, Okay,
Speaker 1: I will tell you what happened. In that clip audio medium,
Speaker 1: it is captioned what did I miss? And this is
Speaker 1: basically a TikTok sketch that she is Haley waking up
Speaker 1: from her nap get it, and then dreaming about all
Speaker 1: of the different tabloid scenarios and rumors that circulated around
Speaker 1: her during this near four month absence from the public eye.
Speaker 1: We see her dreaming that she actually is pregnant, that
Speaker 1: she actually is in jail, that she actually is dead,
Speaker 1: and it ends with her best friend Chelsea saying we
Speaker 1: got shit to do. Egot. Commenters are split on this return,
Speaker 1: which remains consistent in her work going forward. Of course,
Speaker 1: there are a thousand versions of the same bed she
Speaker 1: finally woke up from her nap joke, but there's also
Speaker 1: a lot of variety. Here are some examples.
Speaker 7: I already forgot about you, tbh.
Speaker 1: You woke up. They can never make me hate you.
Speaker 7: Imagine running a crypto fraud scheme and then coming back
Speaker 7: three months later acting like it never happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a gradient of reaction. But what this post's very
Speaker 1: existence indicated to me without saying it explicitly was that
Speaker 1: the SEC investigation was probably over and that Haley was
Speaker 1: cleared to post again. And most interestingly to me, this
Speaker 1: post tells us she still wants to be famous. But
Speaker 1: before we get there, let's close the book on the investigation,
Speaker 1: which is finally resolved on March twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And you won't believe what they decided.
Speaker 7: Talk to a crypto update. Us SEC closes investigation finds
Speaker 7: no evidence against Haley Welch. Hailey Welch tells us quote,
Speaker 7: for the past few months, I've been cooperating with all
Speaker 7: the authorities and attorneys, and finally that work is complete.
Speaker 7: The SEC closed the investigation without making any findings against
Speaker 7: or seeking any monetary sanctions from Haley, said James Salah,
Speaker 7: Welch's attorney. Because they did not bring any action against her,
Speaker 7: there are no restrictions on what she can do in
Speaker 7: regards to crypto or securities in the future. According to sources,
Speaker 7: Welch is looking to leave this episode behind her and
Speaker 7: is likely planning a documentary. They added that the twenty
Speaker 7: two year old won't venture into the cryptocurrency or meme
Speaker 7: coin projects anymore.
Speaker 1: And with that they got away with it. Leave it.
Speaker 1: Hailey Welch and her team to relaunch her career by
Speaker 1: if this teaser was to be believed, any means necessary,
Speaker 1: and next time on what I Promise is our final
Speaker 1: episode on the Hawk to a Saga, we take a
Speaker 1: look at what came next, why this relaunch is not working,
Speaker 1: and how the falloff lines up with so many who
Speaker 1: came before her. That's next time. On sixteenth Minute Sixteenth
Speaker 1: Minute is a production of Whole Zone Media and Iheartwoord Apps.
Speaker 1: It is written, hosted, and produced by me Jamie Loftus.
Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Sophie Lichterman and Robert Evans. The
Speaker 1: Amazing Ian Johnson is our supervising producer and our editor.
Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Sad thirteen. Voice acting is
Speaker 1: from Grant Crater and Pet. Shout outs to our dog
Speaker 1: producer Anderson, my Kats, Flee and Casper, and by Pet
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