WEBVTT - the hawk tuah flop comeback 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:07.640 Coolzon Media. Hello, sixteenth minute listeners. Jamie here with a 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.319 special announcement. I am going to be going on tour 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.680 across the US in just a couple of weeks to 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.079 promote the paperback release of my book Raw Dog, The 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.639 Naked Truth about hot Dogs. If you don't know about 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.720 Raw Dog The Naked Truth about hot Dogs, let me 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.880 tell you. It is a book about hot dogs that 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.080 I wrote. It is the only book that I know 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.200 that is strictly about the history of hot dogs from 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.960 a leftist perspective, meaning that I love hot dogs, but 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.920 we have to talk about how they're produced and the 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.920 labor that it requires to produce them. I'm going to 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.960 be going around the country going to independent bookstores and 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.199 giving free chats about the books. If you want to 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.120 come out talk sixteenth Minute Talk hot Dogs, you can 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.240 come talk to me Jamie in the following cities. Los 0:00:55.320 --> 0:01:00.920 Angeles May thirteenth, Louisville, Kentucky, May fourteenth, Cambridge, Massachusett, May fifteenth. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:02.880 That's going to be a rough couple of days on 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:08.240 a plane. Portland, Maine, May nineteenth, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, May twentieth, Richmond, Virginia, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.240 May twenty first, Petaluma, California, May twenty second, and Larkspur, California, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.800 May thirty first. I will be releasing other dates as 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.319 the summer goes on, so feel free to reach out 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.520 and complain. I love it. You can reserve your tickets 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.080 for free at the link in the description. I'm really 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.600 looking forward to seeing you, and of course I am 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:49.880 wearing a little outfit. Okay, enjoy the episode's. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:02:01.000 Joy sixteen. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.959 Welcome back to sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we talk 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.239 to the Internet's main characters to see how their moment 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.840 in the spotlight affected them and what that says about 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.840 us and the Internet. And just when you thought the 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:43.440 story of Haley Welch aka Hawked to a Girl, the 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.000 main character of twenty twenty four, had made her grand 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:52.040 exit from the public consciousness, well, this is the consequence 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.359 of me covering main characters of recent history. It's never true. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:01.040 I'm always wrong. There's more to say. So this is 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.720 the first episode that we've done of this kind, but 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.960 it's one that I felt was necessary because earlier this 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.359 year I did a multiple part series on Hailey Welch, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.040 who went viral last year in a way that is 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:19.000 barely possible anymore after being featured without her consent, as 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.480 we get into in that series on a Man on 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:27.400 the Street YouTube slash TikTok channel, in which she became 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.880 famous for saying, you must. 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.600 Given that hawk dude spent all that night. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.800 And is she wrong? But for all of what followed, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.720 the clickbait fame followed by the modern template of what 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.640 viral fame looked like at this very particular moment in time, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.600 it was a lot and it kind of sucked. But 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.960 for those who listened to that series a few months ago, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:59.120 we have, as you know, undergone a million historical catastrophes 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.960 since then, and so I do want to just refresh 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.160 your mind a little bit. So come with me if 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:13.160 you dare to December twenty twenty four. Fortunately, we have 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:18.200 been here recently, not just in calendar linear time, but 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.000 because we recently talked about this specific period of a 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.800 few weeks in our Doctor Ali Luke's episode. But this 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.400 is where we left off at the end of the 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:32.120 Haley Welch series. To summarize, twenty one year old Haley 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.800 Welch went to the Broadway District in Nashville, Tennessee, Tennessee 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.960 being the state she grew up in with her best 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.880 friends after seeing a country music festival and were beckoned 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.440 over by a man on the street aspiring social media 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.520 douchebag bro duo called Tim and D, who asked them 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.000 this inspired question. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.400 What's one move in bed that makes a man go 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:56.360 crazy every time? 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.159 And while they asked this question to men women, and 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.359 I will qualify that with many drunk women, always drunk 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.920 women who can't quite give consent. Nothing weird going on there. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.280 While most of these women answered with a version of 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.480 the same thing, one woman answered it the funniest, and 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.120 that woman was Hailey Welch, whose interaction with Tim and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.320 D alongside her best friend Chelsea, lasts much longer in 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.960 the original video, but during the age of the TikTok clip, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:32.680 it boils down to this, I gotta give him that hawk, dude. 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.360 But all that time here. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:39.320 And what Haley experiences from this moment on is uniquely 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.039 twenty twenty four, sort of a collage of what the 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.839 viral online experience could look like at the highest level. 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:51.880 At this particular moment, she gets the classic overnight theme treatment, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:57.640 one characterized by mere instantaneous online headlines and fame, but 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.960 it's long past the day is where this aim is 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:06.120 easily parlayed into where her viral fore mothers landed. You 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.400 know what I'm talking about. The twenty ten's moved to 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:14.240 la version of viral fame. The go talk to Hollywood agencies, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.479 do a couple guest spots on sitcoms, and try to 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.560 figure out how you might fit into a more traditional 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.200 media culture. But that really didn't exist by the time 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.560 Haley became famous in twenty twenty four, and in fact, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.680 you could argue that Internet culture had since eclipsed that 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.760 traditional media structure. No, by the time Haley's moment came along, 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.840 a new path for monetizing virality had been forged, and 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.160 while some influencers weren't able to make the jump from 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.479 the Internet pandering to Hollywood to the Hollywood pandering to 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.000 the Internet era between the mid two thousands and now 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.400 a couple dead think of them as the girls who 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.880 made the jump from the silent pictures to the talk 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.040 if the girls who made the jump from the silent 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.040 picture to the talkies were a pair of adult blonde 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:10.640 brothers with very dark spirits. I, of course, am referring 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.960 to the Paul brothers specifically Jake. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:19.480 Paul, we need to change from Kamala Harris to the 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.800 Republican candidate Donald Trump. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.200 Who is the younger brother of Logan Paul. Do you 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.120 give a fight, you brother? 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:27.920 Not in real life. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.160 You've practiced a little bit. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.320 Never We've never even sparred. But I was willing to 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.720 step in from Mike Tyson when Tyson got sick, and 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.760 we actually ran it up the chain in that flot. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.480 Who I promised to mention as little as humanly possible 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.680 in this episode, But they just weasele their way into 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.800 so many corners of Internet history. Since we have last 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:52.720 recorded this show, they have attended Trump's second presidential inauguration 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.480 with THEO Vaughn kill me, Kill me with a gun. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.800 But Jake Paul, who brought Haley Welch and her best 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.760 friend and Chelsea along with the entire Hawk to a 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.840 crew that had assembled consisting of managers, publicists, lawyers. The 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:14.280 list goes on onto the Better Network, a podcasting slash 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:19.119 sports betting application. Jake Paul knows the online fame game 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.840 better than nearly anybody. The polls were a big part 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.680 of observing this major change in what influencing looked like. 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.640 They started on Vine, an app that no longer exists. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.480 They moved to La when that was the thing to do. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:39.199 They pioneered the idea of moving a bunch of influencers 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:44.079 into a mansion and then ruining the mansion back up. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.360 Wow, I never thought I would say this. 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:47.960 Well, welcome home Jake. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.400 Paller's we made it, Mom, we flipped made it. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.800 Good morning, Jake Pollish. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.960 What flippant gouc chan. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.680 Today is off to a relating stock. We're moving into 0:08:58.679 --> 0:08:59.839 the new team ten. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:05.080 It is genuinely hard to find a douchebag influencer thing 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.640 that these men have not done. In the mid twenty tens, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.280 they were doing bad rap battles with their fellow influencers. 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:18.079 They shamelessly hawked merch. But as the first Trump administration 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:23.640 dragged on, they were part of this evolving influencer grift. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.320 And I think you'll recognize what I'm talking about here, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:31.040 the new influencer grift, which consists of this sinister blend 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:37.200 of bad long video podcasts, weird products marketed at children, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:42.320 pivoting to a hard republican out of nowhere, pay per view, boxing, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:47.960 sports gambling apps, and of course cryptocurrency. So By the 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.360 time Haley Welch came along, Jake Paul wasn't just a 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.440 whole new kind of influencer. He had been a part 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.880 of creating what this influencer was going to look like. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.600 So no longer in the Team ten house or doing 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.079 whatever I blocked from my YouTube feed in the mid 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.680 two thousands. At this point in twenty twenty four, Jake 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.480 Paul was so busy with being a right wing influencer 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.360 that he was actively looking to find other influencers to 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.560 host a shitty video podcast on his crypto sports betting 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.320 app so that he could spend more time, say it 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.679 with me fighting a rateist on pay per view boxing. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.960 And this is the path to fame monetization that Hailey 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.960 Welch was launched into, and her first major platform was 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:43.640 a video podcast that strictly featured guests with massive social 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:48.560 media followings and usually video podcasts of their own. This 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.640 was and is the podcast known as Talk Toua, which 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.160 is objectively a really good name for that podcast, but 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.840 that doesn't mean that it was a good podcast necessarily. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.839 Haley at the beginning is very uncomfortable on Mike, and 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.080 that is not a criticism of her she literally became 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.400 famous a couple weeks earlier. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.679 Make sure you hit follow on Talk to Her wherever 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.840 you get your podcast. We're releasing episodes every Tuesday. And 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.960 for those of you watching on YouTube, be sure you like, 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.040 comment and subscribe. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:22.480 Subscribe to that thing. No Riz, but this podcast, of 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.800 course gets a lot of press because of how close 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.160 it happens to her moment of massive virality, and it 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:33.040 even spawns an irony pilled reaction podcast called Talking Talk TOUA. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.280 Welcome to Talking Talk Toua, the official Companion podcast to 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:37.959 Talk to A. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.920 I'm Peter and I'm Cam and we're your hosts. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.920 Here to the only official Companion podcast. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.280 So Talk to A does what it was supposed to do, 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.480 get a lot of attention and sell Jake Paul's Better 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:57.439 Crypto sports gambling app to her relatively young audience, even 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.040 if the ad reads left some to be desired. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.280 Do you want to make fifty thousand dollars on the 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.880 biggest fight of the year, The Jake Paul Mike Tyson 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.520 Fight is finally here and better is giving you a 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.400 chance to swim up to fifty thousand dollars simply by 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.800 answering five questions about the fight. All you gotta do 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:14.640 is download better. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.440 I'm sold, but it's only a matter of time before 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.320 Haley Welch's team was approached about starting a meme coin 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:26.040 on their own. They were already so adjacent to crypto, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.439 and they were approached by a man named Doc Hollywood. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:33.400 I'm not joking to use a service called pump dot fun. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.920 I'm also not joking. Pump dot fun is a service 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.000 that allows influencers to mint their own crypto coin and 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.560 basically make a quick buck. And while casual followers of 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.040 Hailey Welch may have found this pivot to crypto to 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.440 be very confusing if you were paying close attention to 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.160 how her social media had developed since this first moment 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.480 of fame and signing with an agency. The scene had 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.280 been set for this for months, as Twitter became a 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.640 confirmed cess pit for crypto speculators and scammers. Hailey Welch's 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.719 team set up a Twitter account for her that exclusively 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.160 spoke in crypto memes. Meanwhile, over on Haley's personal account 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.360 on Instagram, she was acting like a normal young woman 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.840 in her twenties. There was a huge narrative voice difference 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.600 between these two accounts, and so a lot of people 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.600 asked Haley on Twitter is this you? Is this your team? 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.920 Who is this? And in response, there would be front 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.080 facing videos of Haley insisting that know this is her, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.479 She's very into crypto. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.920 It's me, bitch, what do you fucking mean? 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.840 I do want to add that we had to pull 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.360 that clip from a previous episode of sixteenth Minute because 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.240 all of these videos were deleted, and it will become 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.680 clear why in a second. Haley now readily admits that 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.240 she was asked to film the videos, but she was 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.560 absolutely not running the Twitter crypto meme account because she 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.920 didn't know anything about crypto and she's too young to 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.160 have any interest in Twitter. But all throughout the lead 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.120 up to the early December twenty twenty four launch of 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.480 what was known as Hawkcoin, Hailey Welch played along in 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.880 spite of admittedly knowing very little about how crypto actually worked, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.560 much less how to or if it's even possible to 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.520 work with it ethically, and this led to her, depending 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.000 on how you feel, either being willfully or being tricked 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:41.720 into a pretty massive scam by a man named Doc Hollywood. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.680 So let's say this man named Doc Hollywood has convinced 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.640 you that you'll make a shitload of money on a 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.120 crypto pump and dump scheme. But the only catch is 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.040 that you need to post videos of you as if 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.920 you totally understand what's going on. This is a strateg 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.400 that of course went south very quickly, and if you 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.880 want more details about how this exactly went down, go 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.960 ahead and listen to earlier parts of this series. I 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.200 hope these are things you already know, but it does 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:18.320 feel important to remind you of what actually happened in 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.520 this case because in recent months and since I last 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.400 wrote about this story, key players involved have begun to 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:33.000 characterize the events that I painstakingly, for some reason, tracked 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.400 in the first run of these episodes, and have changed 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:41.640 the narrative to better suit their own interests. Because in 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.680 recent months, a lot of the key players in this story, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.000 both Haley and the people who worked in her general 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.600 orbit during this time, have begun to mischaracterize the events 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.560 I just described, And if you have access to the 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:02.120 original posts and timelines doesn't match up at all. Why 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.880 might that be in Hailey's case? I'll give you the 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.360 generous reading first. When big weird stuff happens to you 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.320 and is covered extensively in the media, that, regardless of 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.840 what you did right or wrong, is definitely overwhelming and 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.120 possibly traumatizing. Something I think about with Hailey Welch is 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.080 that this appeared to suddenly put her in the position 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.040 of being the breadwinner for her family and the employer 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.440 of her best friend in an industry that not only 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:37.000 she didn't understand, but barely anyone understood, because the way 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:41.320 that online influencing and all of these weird crypto situations 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.400 work seems to change every two minutes. If I were 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.560 to give a less generous reading, this is something we've 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.480 seen from Hailey Welch before, or more specifically, Hailey Welch 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.800 and company. As we'll get into in this episode, Hailey 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.560 Welch has made it clear that she is interested in 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:04.480 remaining in the public eye, regardless of how compromising the 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.560 thing that got her in the public eye was, and 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.600 that she's down to exploit others and to be exploited again. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.919 So we're in December twenty twenty four. Trump has just 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:21.000 been re elected. A United Healthcare executive is assassinated by 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.399 someone I read the Reddit board. You guys, I apologize 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:30.119 for my enthusiasm, and Jamie Loftus forces her fiance to 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.159 take the day off work to see Wicked and Imax, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.920 and for the first and only time in human history 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.119 saw straight couples in the theater where the woman was 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.320 loudly explaining the plot to the man. It was incredible, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.280 and Miss Hagley talked to A. Welch releases what appears 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.440 to be the final episode of her podcast, Talk to 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:02.359 U on Jake Paul's Better Network, which and I always 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.720 laugh when I see this is ominously titled how not 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:11.080 to Get Canceled, and then the feed goes completely dark 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.960 because Haley Welsh got canceled because it was at this 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.760 time that the now infamous hawk Coin, a meme coin 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.960 many correctly pointed out should have been called spitcoin. Missed opportunity, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.520 but at least they thought of talk to A. But 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.359 hawk Coin was released to a crypto consuming public in 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.560 one of the most high profile catastrophic rollouts to date. 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:38.560 If Cryptojournalist's reaction was any indication, I have questions. I 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:39.200 have questions. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.680 I'm raising my hand copy Zilla. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.600 Hey, this is one of the most miserable, horrible launches 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.560 I've ever seen in my life. 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.240 You've heard this voice on the show before. This is 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.359 the voice of Stephen Findeeson aka coffee Zilla, the journalist 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.359 and extremely successful YouTuber who was at the four front 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.400 of calling out Hawkcoin for what it was, a crypto scam, 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.920 which isn't uncommon, but coffee Zilla has a massive audience 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.080 and he correctly called out that this wasn't just a scam, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:17.359 it was a tremendously lazy scam, which, when you add 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.119 the most memorable face of the year to it, meant 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:23.040 a lot more press than most common pump and dub 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.639 schemes of this nature would pull in. And then he 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.800 goes on to make a very viral YouTube video about it. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.600 This then makes it public knowledge that the meme coin 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.000 is a huge scam and it all but craters Haley 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.760 Weld's fledgling career. But among people who were interested in 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:44.120 this story, the real question was how aware was Haley 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.840 that this was a huge scam. But we wouldn't get 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:53.040 the answer to that question for months because after the 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:59.280 crypto scandal, not only is an SEC investigation announced into 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.760 the issue, but Hailey Welch and basically everyone in her 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.560 orbit go completely silent. They go dark, on social media 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:13.480 for months. Talk to us stops, Hailey stops posting publicly, 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.760 and everyone assumes that her moment in the spotlight has 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:22.879 ended in sort of the most humiliating way possible. The 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.520 reason largely speculated for this sudden silence wasn't humiliation, though 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.240 it was very much the lawsuit filed with the SEC 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.320 in New York from people who had been defrauded to 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:39.560 the tune of six figures by Hawkcoin, leading to millions 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:45.000 of dollars in defrauding. But investigating these cases takes some time, 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.480 and the Internet famously has no patience, and so almost 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:54.080 immediately we start to see lazy clickbait video essays saying 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.560 things like this, what's going on with that hawk? 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:57.800 She going to jail? 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.920 What happened to Hawk too? Like, No, she obviously wasn't 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.480 going to jail, and there was never a chance that 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.760 she would have, because it was the orchestrators of the 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.560 crypto coin named in the lawsuit the doc Hollywood's not 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.959 the young woman being used as the face of the scheme, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:19.000 and that kind of content is a whole cottage industry 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.719 of taking a recently relevant person, often a woman, and 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.560 painting them in the worst way possible. And while Haley 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.439 absolutely fucked up, she is painted in a pretty misogynist 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.120 and slut shamy way and a lot of these videos. 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.920 The hawk to a girl just got violated on Instagram. 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.359 You see, she posted a real inviting Trey Young to 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:43.600 be on her podcast, all because he plays for the 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.040 Atlanta Hawks, so it would fit well with her brand 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.040 and the Atlanta Hawks Instagram account commented saying, we good 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.720 as Tray probably wants nothing to do with her. 0:21:51.960 --> 0:22:11.560 And congratulations, you're caught up. This is where we'd left 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.840 off with Hailey Welch in our first series. It wasn't 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.880 clear what the SEC investigation would yield, whether she would 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.160 be made an example of or after the severe roller 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.720 coaster in the public eye she'd had in twenty twenty four, 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.760 maybe she would just cut her losses and pack it 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:32.200 back into Tennessee and the world as the world does 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:38.040 continued while Haley took what everyone joked was her. 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.920 Nap and who I'm gonna go to bed and I'll 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:42.320 see you guys tomorrow. 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:46.119 Outside of a Twitter post saying that she is completely 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.480 cooperating with the SEC investigation. That's the last we hear 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.600 from Hailey welch in twenty twenty four, but early in 0:22:54.600 --> 0:23:01.119 twenty twenty five, as Trump's second inauguration approaches, something interesting happens. 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:06.879 And by something interesting, I mean something really embarrassing and 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:12.280 very depressing. From January seventeenth, twenty twenty five, three days 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:14.800 before he took office, As Donald Trump was preparing for 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.840 his inauguration, those plus to him were also hard at 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:22.080 work launching a new cryptocurrency. I would not be surprised 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.640 if you had already forgotten this happened. It was one 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.400 thousand press cycles ago now, and it already feels very 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.679 quaint compared to what the administration is currently doing. But 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:36.080 Trump launched a meme coin. I mean. Crypto folks seem 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.920 to agree that it was a less sloppy pump and 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.680 dump than a hawk coin, but that's not saying much. 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.040 Coffeezilla can explain it better than I can. 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:45.560 Trump just launched a meame coin. 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:47.280 Welcome back to the void. 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.280 It is not how I wanted to start my twenty 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.760 twenty five Let me tell you that right now. Here's 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.720 the tweet my new Donald Trump official meme is. Here's 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.359 time to celebrate everything we stand for winning. Join my 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.879 very special Trump community. Get your Trump Now go to 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.199 get Trump memes dot com. When you go there, you 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:10.040 join the Trump meme which is buying something and hoping 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:11.240 it goes up in value. 0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.399 The story within the story that a lot of people 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.800 missed as Trump was launching a meme coin was that 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:21.800 during the week of the inauguration, it seemed that virtually 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.680 everyone in Trump's orbit was signing up for pump dot 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.480 fun and trying to make their own meme coin. Even 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:35.440 the pastor hired to speak at the inauguration. 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:38.640 Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, Let's talk about him. He is from 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:43.560 one eighty Church in West Detroit. The town's newspaper had 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.600 a write up on him via The Daily Beast. Just 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:52.639 hours after he delivered that speech for President Trump, Reverend 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.560 Sewell announced the launch of his own crypto token, dubbed Lorenza. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.080 This one is nuts. You have to laugh at this one. 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:06.960 This is Pastor Lorenzo Sewell, and in this video he 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.560 is literally still wearing the outfit he just swore Trump 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.359 in wearing. If nothing else, I've never seen someone so 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:20.200 acutely aware that they have twelve minutes of relevance left. 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:21.399 It's very funny. 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.800 I need to do me a favor. 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:25.160 Right now, I need you to go buy the official 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.879 Lorenzo Sewel coin. I want you to be able to 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:34.120 see politics become manifest, not just in a way where 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.440 we're praying over political gatherings, but when we're seeing us 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.640 become the hands and the feet of the Lord Jesus Christ. 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:41.359 Would you help me? 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:44.160 Would you help us in this endeavor? Would you go 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.480 and purchase the coin in order for us to do 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.160 what we need to do in the ministry and. 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.320 With the state of the world being what it is. 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:56.000