1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the IT Girl Podcast. Thanks for 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: having me, Thank you so much for being here. I'm 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: here with Chelsea. We're so excited to have her. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Take me back to the very beginning. Where did you 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: grow up and how did you discover your love of music. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland. I feel like I 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: discovered my love for music through probably my father. We 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: would listen to a lot of music together. I just 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: grew up listening to like a lot of Alicia Keys. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: It was always playing in my house, Bob Marley, and 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: I think in middle school and high school when I 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: discovered that I could illegally download any song, I went 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: the time crazy on YouTube, which sounds insane to say 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: as an artist myself, but we. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Had very few options back then. Yeah, it was not 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: really available to it. 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Like two dollars for a song was like, yeah, I 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: wasn't doing that, and so yeah, I went down abit 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: hole of like sixties blues and soul music, found a 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: lot of like Otis reading and those artists, and I 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: just fell in love with music. 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: Then. 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: I feel like you can hear those influences in your 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: music too. 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, very soulful. Thank you When did La enter 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the picture. 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: I moved to LA in twenty eighteen. 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: I went to college at the University of Southern California, 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: and the minute I got there, I never left. I 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: ended up moving all of my stuff and my parents 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: were like, we knew this was going to happen. 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Do you love living in La? 33 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: I do love living in La. 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: I did not love living in La. 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: It's one of those things where like, I have a great, 36 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: great group of friends that I actually could not imagine 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: living without. And I feel like I found. 38 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: My groove of La. 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: I love how chilled and laid back it is, and 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: I leave a lot. I think that's one of the 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: reasons I love is because I leave so much, and 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: LA is a great place to come back to. I'm 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: always excited to come back, and we have so much 44 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: sun over there. 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I do miss the sunshine. 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel like La influences you as an artist? 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: That's a good question. 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: I mean I have to say yes, because everyone I 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: love working with the most lives in La, so that 51 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: has obviously a huge influence on my music. I think 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: LA brings me a lot of peace, too, so I'm 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: sure that influences. 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: It is much quieter and more peaceful than like a 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: New York's situation. Yeah, it's allowed and chaotic care. 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel it every time I come here. I'm 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: just like, do you write when you're here? I actually 58 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: have not written here in years. I would like to 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: come here and do some sessions and just see what 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: comes of that. 61 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but because energy is so different, it is. 62 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: So different, and I'm not opposed to it, but I'm 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: definitely like, I love writing in La so much, and 64 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: I think everyone who I enjoy working with does live there, 65 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: So it's kind of easy to just be like, I'm 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: just gonna stay. 67 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Here, yeah, before you're comfortable. 68 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 69 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: What is something people underestimate about being a full time creative? 70 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: I think people probably underestimate how hard it is on 71 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: your mental and how self critical you're gonna be about everything, 72 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: because it's hard not to critique every little thing and 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: want everything to be perfect. And it's really exhausting to 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: always be in that headspace of like I'm always on 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: or like I'm always thinking, or I'm always trying to 76 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: be creative, and like burnout is bound to come when 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: that's how you operate. I just think it's a very 78 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: it's stressful. It's very rewarding, but it's also like it's 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: very very difficult in that way. 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Has there been a moment where you felt like, Okay, 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: I made it? 82 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think when I'm with my friends, I'm like 83 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: I made it because it's so fulfilling for me to 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: be around them. I don't think there's ever going to 85 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: be a point in my career where I'm like I 86 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: made it because and this is unfortunate. I think I'm 87 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: at a place right now where I will accomplish something 88 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: and move on way too fast from it because I'm 89 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: just like, Okay, I did that, Now what's next. And 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: I think that's just like the athlete in me and 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: all these things in my childhood that have made me 92 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: like that in a sense where it's like, Okay, I 93 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: did what I need to do to get to point 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: this point, let me continue, and like, I want to 95 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: learn how to sit with the things I've accomplished for 96 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: longer and really celebrate those things. But I think the 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: people in my life are what made me feel like 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: I made it, because I'm just so fulfilled by that 99 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: that I'm like, if I had this for the rest 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: of my. 101 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Life, I would be happy I feel like that is 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: the ultimate I've made it. 103 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: Truly, that is the ultimate I've made it. 104 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That's so great. 105 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: What's your ritual before you start to write something new? 106 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: What does that process look like? 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: I pull up to the studio and I basically have 108 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: a little therapy session of like what's going on in 109 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: my life, what I want to write about. And I'll 110 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: always have Jamie Gellman. She's like my right hand in music. 111 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: I write majority of my songs with her. She'll be 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: in the corner just typing everything I'm saying, and then 113 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: we'll just get into it. But it always starts with like, 114 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: this is exactly how I feel right now, this is 115 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: what's going on in my life, and this is what 116 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 3: I want to write about. And I don't think I've 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: ever written a song another way, Like every song I 118 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: have is directly pulled from what I was experiencing at 119 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: that time. 120 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: What parts of your life do you feel like you 121 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: pull from the most? 122 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: Probably what parts of my life? So like relationships? 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Is it relationships? Is it just like internal battles? 124 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: It's probably relationships. 125 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's what I would sing about if I 126 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: could sing. 127 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's just relationships with like could be 128 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: with you know, friends, friends, lovers, myself. I think I 129 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: actually speak a lot about my relationship with myself. I'm 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: consistently learning new things about who I am and what 131 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: I like and what I don't like, and a lot 132 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: of those come from other relationships as well, but it's 133 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: i would say majority of relationship relationship based. 134 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you feel like it's. 135 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Harder to maintain originality now with like social media and 136 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: all of that. How does that come into play in 137 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: your creative process? 138 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: I definitely think it's difficult to maintain it solely because 139 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: so many people have incredible ideas. There's a lot of 140 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: beauty out there, there's a lot of art, and there's 141 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: so much access to that now that it's hard to 142 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: not you know, see something and be like I want 143 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: to do that, that's so cool. I think the way 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: I try to maintain my originality is definitely through just 145 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: the music and what I'm saying, because I'm like, if 146 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: I write about my life, it will resonate with other people, 147 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: but like, nobody can say I stole that from somebody else. 148 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 4: It's my story to tell. 149 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 3: And Yeah, I just think having a lot of truth 150 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: in my music is what allows me to feel like 151 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm not ripping from other people. 152 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: How much does social media come into your strategy as 153 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: an artist? 154 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: This is something I definitely need to be more serious about. 155 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty unseious when it comes to my 156 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: social media. Maybe that's what's like working for me, but 157 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be like this, this is me, 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: Like what you see is what you get. I'll prop 159 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: my phone up, and I think when I do the 160 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: prop my phone up, click record, and sing to my song, 161 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: dance to my song, whatever it is, that's actually what 162 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: does the best as opposed to hiring a videographer and 163 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: having this like really intricate video Like those things never 164 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: really resonate. So I feel like my thing is like 165 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: if I wake up one day and I'm like, I 166 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: want to record a TikTok and post it, I'm going 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: to do that, and that's always when it does better 168 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: than if I'm overthinking it. So I've kind of just 169 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: like allowed myself to be more laid back in the 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: social media space because of that, because it's just what 171 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: it's been working for me. 172 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're pressured as an artist to like, 173 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: have a social media presence for sure. 174 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's a. 175 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: New thing where all of a sudden, it's like, you 176 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: can't just be like a model, you can't just be 177 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: a singer, you can't just be a performer. You have 178 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: to also be an influencer. 179 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: Definitely. I think if you can master the social media 180 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: part of things, you are set. If the music is 181 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: good and you get the social media, you're good to go. 182 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: I think even every meeting that I had before I signed, 183 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: every label was like, I mean, you already have the 184 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: social media thing where yeah, we just want to jump 185 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: on board. You know that you know what you're doing. 186 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: And I was like, any label who tells me we 187 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: can see you know what you're doing, I was like, 188 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't trust that you're going to. 189 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: Actually help me grow. I think you just. 190 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Want to take from what I've already built. And so 191 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: that always scared me a little in the conversation. But yeah, 192 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: it sucks how important social media is for artists, because 193 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: I think it is the hardest part of being an 194 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: artist because none of us want to do the social 195 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: media part. We just want to make the music and 196 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: hope that it reaches the right people, but today you 197 00:08:58,800 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: can't do that. 198 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: You consider yourself an influencer or you like, I'm more 199 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm an artist. 200 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: No, everyone knows. I don't like to call myself an influencer. 201 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: I think I have influence, but I've been making music 202 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: so much longer than I've been posting on the internet. 203 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: So for me, influencing and using social media was always 204 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: the tool to get my music out at some point 205 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: when I you. 206 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Truly don't have a choice. These days, you. 207 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: Don't have a choice. 208 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: So it's like even this word like TikTok artist, it's 209 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: like every artist is on TikTok. Yeah, Like doesn't matter 210 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: if you're a legend, doesn't matter. Like every artist is 211 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: technically going to be considered a TikTok artist at that point. 212 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I agree completely you. It really is 213 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: like a double edged sword. You don't really have a choice. 214 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 2: You kind of have to be good at it, and 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: you kind of have to. If you don't put it 216 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: into your strategy at all, no one will take you seriously. 217 00:09:51,760 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, what do you think the. 218 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: Hardest part about releasing music and being a creative is 219 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, with everybody having a personal brand, 220 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: and there are so much competition and everybody's on, you know, 221 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: singing online and doing things online and putting themselves out there. 222 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: What are some of the things you've find really challenging 223 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: about that. 224 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 3: For me personally? I mean, it is such a saturated 225 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: industry now with social media. It is so hard to 226 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: not look at somebody else's success and compare yourself to it. Like, 227 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: I do believe that there is space for everyone, but 228 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: it's hard to remove myself from that. I'll see someone's 229 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: post going up crazy and I'm like, damn, like why 230 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: aren't my posts going up crazy? Or it's just hard 231 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: not to consistently compare yourself. And that's something I'm still 232 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: working on. I've actually been scrolling a lot less to 233 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: help with that, and it has helped. 234 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm working on the less scroll. I'm working on that 235 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: right now. 236 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: It helps really, Like I feel like you don't even 237 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: really so much time passes either. I've not been sitting 238 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: here for four hours, but you really have been sitting 239 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: there for four hours, And I. 240 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: Feel like it's just so they like hook us, yeah. 241 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: And you're locked in when you're creating music. What is 242 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: something you're trying to make people feel. 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: I want people to feel like they're in the studio 244 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: with me. I want them to feel like they're in 245 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: the recording booth, like right there and they're like listening 246 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: to you know, everything that went into it. I just 247 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: want people to know it's real, the things that I'm 248 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: singing about, it's nobody else's story, and like if it 249 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: resonates with you, it's like we're in this together, you know. 250 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 3: I want people to know that. I just I just 251 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: want my music to reach the right people. Like, whoever 252 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: needs to hear the music, you will hear it. That's 253 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: what I try to tell myself. 254 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: I love that if you were starting today, what's some 255 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: advice you would give yourself or something you wish you 256 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: knew when you were starting out. 257 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: I would say, never lose track of the people who 258 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: have been there with you from the jump, which is 259 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: honestly like how I operate. The people I've been working with, 260 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: the first people I ever made music with seven years 261 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: ago are still the people I make music with today. 262 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 4: And there was like. 263 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: One bump in the road early early in my career, 264 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: before I ever put out music, where some big producer 265 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: came in, some big executive and was like we're going 266 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: to make you a star, and like you're gonna work 267 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: with all these people, And I worked with all these 268 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: crazy people, and at the end of it, I got 269 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: like brutally screwed over, really and I yeah, and I 270 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 3: stopped making music for like six months really early on, 271 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, Like the music industry is 272 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: everything they say it is. It's scary and there's no 273 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: protection for artists. And then I was like, wait, I 274 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: still have this amazing crew of people who are my 275 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: closest friends who are down to do this with me, 276 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: So let me just ta back in. And we've been 277 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: working together ever since. And now I have this chip 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: on my shoulder where I'm like, I do not care 279 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: who you've worked with. You can throw any big name 280 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: at me. If you are not a good person, I 281 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: absolutely will not work with you. 282 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: Would that be your advice to girls that want to 283 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: go into the music industry. 284 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be to work with people who you 285 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: feel safe around and comfortable with and just know that, 286 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: like the music's going to develop. You know, it's okay 287 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: if you're not working with the best producer in the world, 288 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: or if you're not the best singer in the world, 289 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: like you guys can grow together, and I think there's 290 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: something really special in that. 291 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I feel like that's good advice for 292 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: our girls that are listening that maybe like have a 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: passion for music. 294 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: And one because the music industry is intimidating. 295 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: It is, yeah and scary. 296 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm glad you're having You would say you're 297 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: having a positive experience in the music I am. 298 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm definitely having a positive experience. I will say I 299 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: work majority with women. My producer only talk to women. 300 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: Yep, an only women on the team to football. 301 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, A majority of my team on the label side 302 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: is female. My manager female, my social media manager female. 303 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: All of the writers I work with are female. I 304 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: think that's something that's so special to me. Is like 305 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: every time I get in a room, I'm not nervous 306 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: at all. There's no like, oh, is he going to 307 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: be judgmental? 308 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: Like what? 309 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: Like, we all get each other and I'm comfortable saying 310 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: whatever I want. And then the producers that I do 311 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: work with, they are male. They're like they just happen 312 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: to be guys, you know, like they can hang and 313 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: they are just the kindest people and we align in 314 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: that way. I think so I never feel uncomfortable at all, 315 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: and if I ever did, I would leave immediately. 316 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: That's fantastic advice and. 317 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: Leave you practice your free will and get up and 318 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: leave if anybody makes you uncomfortable. 319 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: I love that. 320 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, switching gears your personal style. I think you have 321 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: such great personal style. It's very unique to you, but 322 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: also super cool girl, which I really love. Your style 323 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: feels very intentional. Do you feel like it's always been 324 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: that way? 325 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: No, not at all, honestly. 326 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: Actually, well maybe because I think when I use the 327 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: way I used to dress, I was intentionally covering up 328 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: my body, like I was. Everything was baggy and oversized, 329 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: and I was like, nobody will ever know what the 330 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: shape of my body looks like. So maybe I guess 331 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: that was intentional. But I think throughout the years and 332 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: throughout like my past relationships, I think I ebb and 333 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: flow a lot between, like my masculine and feminine energy. 334 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: So some days I'll wake up and I'm like, oh, 335 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: I want to dress like a woman today, like the 336 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: full like shoulders out and you know, and feel elegant 337 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: in that way. And then I'll have my other days 338 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: where I'm like, yeah, I just I just want to 339 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: be comfortable and in baggy clothes again. And I don't know, 340 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: I think fashion is so special because I can change 341 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: the energy I exude through what I'm wearing, and I 342 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: get to make that choice on my own. So it's 343 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: that's comforting to know that it's really up to me 344 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: how I want to how I want to present myself. 345 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: Is your style part of your artistic autistic? 346 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Is your sound part. 347 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: Of your artistic identity or is it maybe the other 348 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: way around? 349 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Or do you keep the two pretty separate. 350 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: I think it's just like it's just all me. 351 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: Like I don't think I'm like, okay, as an artist, 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: I need to dress a certain way. It's kind of 353 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: like it's very cohesive. I feel like I'm just a 354 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: girl who also makes music, So like how I dress, 355 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: I think maybe when I perform might be like a 356 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: little more elevated. But it's some outfit you would see 357 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: me wearing at it in a night out too, you know, 358 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: or like just walking down the street in New York 359 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: in the spring. I don't know about the winters here, 360 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: they're a little too cold. Well it's atrocious, yeah, atrocious, 361 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's just what you see is 362 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: what you get. 363 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: I love that. 364 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: Are there people that influence your style very heavily or 365 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: artists that influence your style? 366 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: Right now you can't tell by what I'm wearing, but 367 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: I am very heavily influenced by Lenny Kravitz. 368 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 4: At the moment. I'm loving like a Flare Jean and 369 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 4: a mini tea and. 370 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: Weird dream about Lenny Kravins. No, I was meeting him 371 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and I was like a check. 372 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: In girl and he liked my outfit and I liked 373 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: his outfit. I don't know if I was having like 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: an inspiration moment from him, but he was in my 375 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: dream and I was like, and it was like twenty 376 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: minutes of just Lenny Kravitz. 377 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: He just has such great style. 378 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 4: Honestly, that's really cool. Yeah, he does have. He was 379 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 4: something was channeling. 380 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: I think I just wanted him to think of my mouth. 381 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: It was cool. 382 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. 383 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: I don't know the stamp of approval from Lenny Kravitz 384 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: would go insane, but I think, yeah, Lenny Kravitz has 385 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: crazy swag and I don't feel like anyone's really tapping 386 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: into that right now. 387 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, no, I think he is maybe 388 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: this was where my thought process was. But he's very 389 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: underutilized under like she has incredible rocker style that I 390 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: don't feel like is disgusted enough. 391 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when I think of my like 392 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: artistic presence, I mean sonically, I'm more like pop soul, 393 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: R and B. And I think if I had this 394 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: look that didn't necessarily match that and it's like Lenny 395 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: Kravit's rock flare gens like I'm pretty tattooed on my arms, 396 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: I think people would be like, hmm, it's you know 397 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: that that look doesn't match the sound, and I don't 398 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: want to necessarily match the sound. I think it's cool 399 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: to have that separation there. 400 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: But I like that and I love I feel like 401 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: it's a testament to how your taste level. That you're 402 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: like looking to Lenny Kravitz, You're not just like looking 403 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: at the low hanging fruit. You're like and he's got 404 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: like an old school style and yeah, no ultimate rocker style. 405 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: And Zoe she also oh girl, girl, icon legend. 406 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: Queen, even more beautiful in person. I will say I 407 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: saw her in person for the first time and I 408 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: was like, there's no. 409 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Way for skin. 410 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: It was crazy and her cheekbones. I was like, no, 411 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 4: she's flawless. Yeah, she's really crazy. 412 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: I was like, right, and he passed her his like 413 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: incredible style down. 414 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: To her, and she's such a style icon. 415 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: She really is. Shout out of kra. 416 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: Whnny Kravitz if you're tell me I'm cool if you're 417 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: listening to because I don't know why you're in my 418 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: dream for so long, but you looked really cool and 419 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: you thought I was so cool. What feels exciting to 420 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: you in fashion right now? 421 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: I like how people are playing with colors a lot 422 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: right now. I think there's so many color combinations that 423 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: I've never really thought of that I'm seeing a lot, 424 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 3: especially on like Pinterest and stuff. People are having so 425 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: much fun with that. And I think color is fun, 426 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: and I think more people should lean into that and 427 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: to be funky and like make patterns, like different patterns 428 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: together and just be playful. 429 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: You know. I think when I was a kid, I 430 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: was so playful with the way I dressed. 431 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 3: Up, and I want to bring that back and just 432 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: the freedom to just exist without being like somebody gonna 433 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: judge my outfit. So I think color pattern mixing, all 434 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: of that is really exciting to me that people are 435 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: leaning into that, and then it's having its own little 436 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: moment right now. 437 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: I feel like we went into such a lull with 438 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: style and it was like only chic, only all black, 439 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: only nothing, only quiet, luxury, nothing, which has its place. 440 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm wearing all black right now. But then all of 441 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: a sudden, everybody's like, we should have fun again. And 442 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: now it's like you can switch it up and have 443 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: a totally different vibe and it's. 444 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: Way more accepted and people are excited about it. 445 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 4: I agree. 446 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: Do you have a power outfit either that you wear 447 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: on a daily basis or like to perform and that 448 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: you're like, I feel. 449 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Powerful, I feel confident. 450 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: This is me I have. 451 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Yes, I have like a silhouette for so. I have 452 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: these jeans. I've been talking about them so much. They're 453 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 3: Acne studios and they are perfect flare jeans and like 454 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 3: they're they're actually I wear them so much because they 455 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: make me feel like a superstar. I'm like, I am 456 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: Lenny Kravitz, Like that's how. 457 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 4: I feel when I wear them. So I will be 458 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: wearing them to my show that's actually tomorrow. And I 459 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: have these. 460 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 3: Clogs that I wear with them that fit perfectly with 461 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: a silhouette of like the flare of the pant and 462 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: just like a little tea. Like I like to show 463 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 3: my arms now because they're pretty tattooed, and I think 464 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: my tattoos very much represent who I am. So I 465 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: think that silhouette is just kind of like my vibe 466 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 3: right now. 467 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Is it like a baby tea? 468 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 469 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: Yes, or like a little button like a silk blouse. 470 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: I love It's nice too strong, Yeah. 471 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 472 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: Where do you feel your work expanding to next? 473 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: I just put out a single called Picky Choosy, which 474 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: is about me being extra picky with you know, who 475 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: I give myself to, I give my time to. It's 476 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: just a very me song, Like if you want to 477 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: know who I am, listen to Picky Choosy. And then 478 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm putting out an EP. So I'm very excited for 479 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: this project. It's called Better Late than Not at All, 480 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: and it kind of summarizes like my breakup and then 481 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: me coming back to myself remembering who I am, standing up, 482 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: you know, getting up off the ground after a breakup 483 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: and being like I have everything I could ever need 484 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: right here, and yeah, just the ebbs and flows of 485 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: a breakup. 486 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: I think, do you have a breakup advice for the girlies? 487 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: My breakup advice is to lean on your friends, fill 488 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: whatever gaps you feel with the people who love you 489 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: no matter what, and with yourself, Like do the things 490 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: that you would want your lover to do for you, 491 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: Just just do them yourself and show yourself that you're 492 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: capable of doing those things. And remember that it didn't 493 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: work out for a reason, so everything that's meant to 494 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: be will truly be. 495 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 4: I believe that wholeheartedly. 496 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: I'm working on shifting into that mindset. Yeah, I'm someone 497 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: who's like, no come back, and. 498 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't like let it go. 499 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like why'd you leave in the first place? 500 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: Like if you're leaving, like you don't you don't see 501 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: what's in front of you. And I'm good on that. 502 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 503 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: Is there a medium that you want to explore more deeply? 504 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: Like is there something that you want to do that 505 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: maybe you haven't done yet or you want to get 506 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: into in the future. 507 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: Playing guitar, I need to learn an instrument, And I've 508 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 3: been on and off learning guitar for probably a few 509 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 3: years and just haven't like really committed to it. I 510 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 3: think this year that's what I am planning on doing. 511 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: I would love to be able to sing and play. 512 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: That would be so fulfilling, and I just need to 513 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: lean in all the way. 514 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: I want to learn how to play the drums, which 515 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: I know sounds so random and ridiculous, but I have. 516 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Every like a couple of weeks, I get this thought 517 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: where I'm like, why don't I learn how to play 518 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: the drums? I feel like that would be so much fun. 519 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: It would be so fun. 520 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: And I'm a big proponent of adult hobbies, even though 521 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: for you it's a little Obviously playing a chart would 522 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 2: be more than a hobby because it's your life. But 523 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I need an adult hobby, and I feel 524 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: like drums might be my hobby. 525 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: That would be a great hobby. It's like, would you 526 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 3: buy a drum kit? 527 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: You think that's the other thing. 528 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: Where do you put a drum? 529 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: Where do I put the drums? 530 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: Where do I. 531 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 5: Play these drums? 532 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 533 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: I haven't figured that out because I obviously live in 534 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: New York and have a small apartment. But I feel 535 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: like I'm playing an instrument. Just seems very empowering to me. 536 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: It is. It is one of the most fun things 537 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 3: in the world is making music. 538 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: It's it blows. 539 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: Every time we make a song, my mind is blown. 540 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm like, we really just walked into a room 541 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 3: and there was nothing there and we came out with 542 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: a song that like, one day people will hear. 543 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Okay, my drum album might be coming, Yeah, I really do. 544 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know. 545 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: I just feel like as a woman, it's empowering. And 546 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: are there a lot of girl drummers? I feel like 547 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: there's not. 548 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you learned guitar, I'm gonna learn. 549 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 4: There we go drums, Yeah, there we go. Love that. 550 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: What do you want your legacy to be? 551 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 4: My legacy? WHOA I've never been asked this question. Deep hmm. 552 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: I want people to remember the way I made them 553 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: feel and the way my music made them feel. I 554 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: want people to meet me and be like, oh, she's 555 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 3: actually who she presents you know online, and maybe I'll 556 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: have a bad day here and there, but like, I 557 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: just want people to be like, damn, she's a girl 558 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: that was just like doing her thing making music. And 559 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 3: I want the music to live on obviously way longer 560 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 3: than I will, but I think I just want to 561 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: be a good person and I want to inspire other 562 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: people to be a good person too, And if I 563 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: can leave that behind, then like I have done my job. 564 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: What does the next five years look like for you? 565 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: I have no idea. I would love to play Coachella 566 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: at some point. 567 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: I see that that's not far. 568 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 4: I see that too. I don't know. 569 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: I think I'd like to travel the world and make 570 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: music in different cities. I would like to meet people 571 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: all over, put out a lot. 572 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: Of new music, tour the. 573 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: World, sell out stadiums, like all these things. I want 574 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: to just grow my career and grow as a person. 575 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: I think there's you know, there's so much that I 576 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: want to accomplish. I would love to win an Oscar 577 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: one day. I know people I probably should have set 578 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: a Grammy. But I would love to like be an 579 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: actress and to do other creative things. And I hope 580 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: my music helps me get there. And yeah, I hope 581 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: I win a Grammy too, But that's like a given, 582 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: you know, in five years. And I do think I 583 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 3: could do all this in five years. 584 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Really, I think you'll play Coachelle in the next two years. 585 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: Me too, I do think it'll be a two year mark. 586 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I like feel it. Yeah, no, I feel that. 587 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I really see that happening for you. Okay, these are 588 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: good goals. 589 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: I like that, and I always make somebody speak something 590 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: into existence before they leave the podcast. 591 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: So yours can be Coachella. 592 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: Coachella and an Oscar and an Oscar the Grammys. 593 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: It's just an obvious. 594 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just that's come in. 595 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's coming. That's nothing. What kind of work do 596 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: you want to act in? What kind of acting do 597 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: you want to do? 598 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: I don't know yet. I don't want anything like, no 599 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: horror movies. 600 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: Like I don't think you can win an Oscar for 601 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: a horror movie anyway. 602 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly same, I think. 603 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: I feel the core is kind of like the hot 604 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: thing it is for young actresses. 605 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: I do think it would be very impressive for me 606 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: to do well in a horror movie. But I don't know, honestly, 607 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: anything with Jacob Loordi in it. Put me in, put 608 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: me in a goat. 609 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: If you need an ex shrugg, call me for that 610 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: as well. 611 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: If you need someone to make out with Jacob Alordi 612 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 2: in the background. 613 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: I do think like everything he's been in though, I'm like, 614 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: this is like a very good film. 615 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: He is very impressive and I feel like he does 616 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: a very good job selecting his projects. 617 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I agree, it's like wide range. 618 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: I agree with that. 619 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: You see him in a lot of different things. He 620 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: does a lot of different things. 621 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, smoking. 622 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: Love him. Shout out to the it girl Jacob Lordy. Yeah, 623 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: what does being an IT girl in twenty twenty six 624 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: mean to you? 625 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: Being an itck girl in twenty twenty six means doing 626 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: things for yourself, like dressing for yourself, not the validation 627 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: of other people. I think I've said it already, like 628 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: you have everything you could ever need inside of you 629 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: and just leaning into that and knowing that, like. 630 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: If you embrace who you are, you are. 631 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: Going to enjoy your life so much more, And that 632 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: is what makes you an IT girl. 633 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 4: I don't. I think there's space for everyone to be 634 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: an IT girl if they really want to be. I agree. 635 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: Are there things you do when you're not feeling confident 636 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: to kind of bring you back to that place? 637 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: This might be like a really weird answer, but whenever 638 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: we are not feeling confident, I just go get my 639 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: hair done. 640 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: Hey, that's a great. 641 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: I am like, go to the gym and get a 642 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: spray hand, and I'm like, I don't know what I 643 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: was thinking. 644 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: I think if I'm ever not that confidence is just 645 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: because my hair isn't done like which is a. 646 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: Lot of the time. 647 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: But I'm also trying to embrace my natural hair in 648 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: its messy at state. 649 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: Not right now I have braids. It don't come from me. 650 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I honestly think my hair is my energy 651 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: source in a lot of ways, and so if I 652 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable about it, I just have to go get 653 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: it done and then I'm back. And there's so much 654 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: I get to do with my hair. I'm so blessed that, 655 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: like I have melanine because I could do braids or 656 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: an afro cornrows are like. 657 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter what the look is. 658 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: I can do so much and that's a blessing And 659 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: so I just need to switch it up everyone in 660 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: a while and then I'm like, I'm back. 661 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: I love that. 662 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody has to find their thing too, 664 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: the your thing that, like you said, your energy source, 665 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: your thing that makes you feel most yourself. And I 666 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: feel like people don't always take the time to make 667 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: themselves feel more confident when they're not feeling confident. 668 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: You kind of have to put that energy into yourself. 669 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 4: I agree, invest in yourself and you will be rewarded. 670 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: I love it. 671 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, last question, who do you think is the ultimately 672 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: girl and why does she inspire you? 673 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: Mm? 674 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: Ultimate girl? My girl? Amy? Whyouse? For sure? 675 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: She is just one of those artists that did not 676 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: care at all what other people thought. 677 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: She wanted her music to just be her. 678 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: It was poetry, It was not what other people were 679 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: telling her to do. Ever, she was so real and 680 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: everything she did and like she was an artist, but 681 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: she was like such a lover, like that was like 682 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: what killed her was love. And yeah, I just love 683 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: how much she wore her heart on her sleeve and 684 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: she was so raw about everything. 685 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Her documentary changed my life. 686 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really like impacted me so deeply. I was 687 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: on a plane when I watched it, and I could 688 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: not stop crying. And I got off the plane and 689 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: I was in Paris for the first time, and I 690 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: just couldn't stop crying or enjoying myself because I was like, 691 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: we're not talking enough about anyone else. 692 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is I don't think we talked about her enough. 693 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: I've been obsessed with here since I was a kid. 694 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: I've watched that documentary like fifteen. 695 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: It's an unbelievable documentary. 696 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: It's like you said, real, it's raw and her music 697 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: is so like you can feel it and it's so 698 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: accurate and it just so accurately describes It's like a 699 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: universal feeling. That kind of pain and like sadness is 700 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: so it was unique to her, but it also is 701 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: so easily understandable. Yeah, and I feel like there just 702 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: isn't anyone else like her that does it like that 703 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: and puts themselves out there in a way. 704 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: That's so. She was true. She was telling the truth. Yeah, 705 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: and you can like feel that she's telling you the truth. 706 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: I know, Amy, No, I love her such a great, 707 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: great girl, truly. 708 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: That's the ultimate a girl for me. 709 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: She has the ultimate E girl. We love you, Amy Winehouse. 710 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to shout out your socials? 711 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: Yes, you can find me on Instagrams. 712 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: It's like probably YouTube, Spotify as Chelsea Jordan, and all 713 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: streaming platforms sorry, not just Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, 714 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: all of them. 715 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chelsea Jordan. 716 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 5: I love it. 717 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: Thank you Chelsea so much for being here. You are 718 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: such an E girl. You're such a definition of what 719 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: the modern twenty twenty six E. 720 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Girl looks like. My socials are at Bay t Taylor. 721 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: Our show is at A Girl the series, and stay 722 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: tuned next week for another A Girl Girl