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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Chip, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: You know that this is our second to last podcast

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Crazy Crazy, where'd this year go?

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's talk about it because we never talk

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Speaker 2: about that fast time flies?

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Speaker 3: Good god. I mean it's like, I feel like the

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Speaker 3: it makes you older just talking about shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the way that you say it is

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Speaker 2: always like, oh my god, it's just where did the

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Speaker 2: time go? Every time we say this, so it does

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Speaker 2: make you sound like my grandmother.

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Speaker 3: I know. Oh god, you want to talk about the weather.

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Speaker 1: Too, Oh my god, THEWS other sports.

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Speaker 3: I don't talk about sports all right, sports.

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Speaker 1: Ball, duh.

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Speaker 2: The weather is actually kind of overcast here today. But

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Speaker 2: you're in Austin. I mean you are like our little

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Speaker 2: traveling ferry over here. You never are home.

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Speaker 3: I know, Well, this is the last trip for the year,

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Speaker 3: so until you go home, until I go home. But

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Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's me shutting it down.

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Speaker 1: I see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well Chip and I were talking, you know, as

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Speaker 2: you guys know that we have now put into place

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Speaker 2: this new way that we're doing the podcast, which is

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Speaker 2: we take the Wednesday episode and we pull a topic

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Speaker 2: for the Friday episode out of that just it helps

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Speaker 2: us to just have it a little more cohesive.

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Speaker 1: It keeps it fun.

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Speaker 2: It's like it for me, it just is actually expanding

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Speaker 2: on something that I'm already interested in, and so I

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Speaker 2: find it really fun to be able to really break

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Speaker 2: it down with you and kind of sometimes find the

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Speaker 2: lighter side of things. Since you know, I'm a flour

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Speaker 2: on the enneagram, I can get a little deep on Wednesdays. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's always nice to catch up. But this week

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Speaker 2: I was telling you I did a podcast with Lisa Miller.

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Speaker 2: She's a holistic coach, a professor, but she really has

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Speaker 2: written two books about the science of spirituality. And I

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Speaker 2: loved this because when I talk about spirituality, I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people can kind of refer to that

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I'm not really religious, and it's like

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Speaker 2: spirituality doesn't have to mean religion at all. But also

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Speaker 2: I love to tie the science to it because it

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Speaker 2: doesn't make it woo woo anymore. It's like what Lisa

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Speaker 2: like we came to this earth with the tools and

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Speaker 2: the wanting to have some sort of spiritual practice, and

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Speaker 2: that can be anything. It's whatever connects with you. We're

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Speaker 2: not tied to one religion or denomination or astrological principle here.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I know that I get my spirituality in

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Speaker 2: parents can be different, my friends are different, like you

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Speaker 2: and I are different. And I think that that's important

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Speaker 2: because it's just like speaking to what your soul literally wants.

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Speaker 2: But what Lisa and I said was the more that

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Speaker 2: I've learned about different religions, even they're all saying the

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Speaker 2: it's whatever, it doesn't really change the underlying need or

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Speaker 3: Right, do you well for Christianity?

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Speaker 2: Well, for Christianity, but that's where the that's where the

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Speaker 2: so much. So before we get into that, let's just salt.

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Speaker 2: What is your spiritual practice? Like, do you feel like

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Speaker 3: No? I mean, OK, I was I was raised Christian.

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Speaker 3: I was raised Methodist, and it was you know, pretty

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Speaker 3: I'm not even like chanting or praying or doing anything.

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Speaker 3: It's really just sort of like a recentering thing for me.

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Speaker 3: And you know, that's kind of what I do along

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Speaker 2: Right ship, We always make a joke because every time

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Speaker 2: And that's just the way that it's always come out.

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Speaker 2: Like it's like we'll be talking about, Oh, we're going

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Speaker 3: But then tell him how good I am at actually

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Speaker 2: No, he's a fucking master. Yeah, I mean the captain

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Speaker 2: You're praying on a jet ski too. It's not it's

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Speaker 3: Like I's got to take a bath.

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Speaker 2: You grew up on the water anyway, So I hear

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Speaker 2: what I hear in your spiritual practice is because you're

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Speaker 2: and especially in nature by water, which makes total sense

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Speaker 2: so that means that water, like you're a water sign,

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Speaker 1: That's why I love bath so much. You like cold water,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like spirituality can be anything, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's any sort of way that you connect

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Speaker 3: And I feel very connected despite feeling small. I feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean mine can vary, but I think mine's

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Speaker 2: follow this girl on Instagram called the Workout, which and

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Speaker 2: And we were just talking though, like what are some

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Speaker 1: I think yours is pretty good though.

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Speaker 2: Because couldn't we just like escape off and go sip

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Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, yeah, I couldn't. I mean, I have to

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Speaker 3: And you know, my parents are older. They keep the

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Speaker 3: television is always on, my mom is a constant chit chatter,

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Speaker 2: more about trying to I don't know, implement those things

437
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Speaker 2: and so that you can actually enjoy it and we're

438
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Speaker 2: not stressing ourselves out. And then to really take a

439
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 2: step back and go, is this something I want to

440
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Speaker 2: prioritize for my wellbeing and for the well being of

441
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Speaker 2: others around me, or do I need to take a

442
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Speaker 2: step back? And I don't even know what it would

443
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Speaker 2: look like, but whatever it is for you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think this we could chalk it up.

445
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: Especially my experience with my mother being stressed. It all

446
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 3: comes from a really like sort of good place because

447
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: it was we used to host a big family dinner

448
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: and so she wanted everything to be perfect. So it's

449
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: like her intentions are great, but she gets lost in

450
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 3: the sort of the stress of it all, and I

451
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: think it's just a it's an extension of like, really

452
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Speaker 3: forgetting about this the reason for the season. And I

453
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Speaker 3: don't mean like, I don't mean Jesus, I mean just

454
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Speaker 3: like coming together and being together, and so it's we

455
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 3: forget that it really is about the internal, and we're

456
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 3: so exposed to all these external forces that our gifts

457
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: and family and blah blah blah whatever it is, the weather,

458
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: things that are completely out of our control, yet they

459
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: end up driving us more than sort of the internal

460
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Speaker 3: like spiritual connection that we need with ourselves and our

461
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 3: loved ones at that time of year, because you know,

462
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: a lot of stress comes from you know, there are

463
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: people that experience a very different kind of stress that

464
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: is like being alone, you know, like not having that

465
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: not able to connect with yourself in those moments, totally

466
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: really lost. You know.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, that's where a place like reaching out for help

468
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: or talking to other people, connecting with others, seeing if

469
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: there's anyone like maybe if you are alone, like you

470
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: could go to someone else's Christmas or you know, like

471
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: reaching out versus isolating. I just think it's like we're

472
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Speaker 2: not trying to This is obviously not preachy like at all.

473
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: We're not trying to be like, oh, we haven't figured out.

474
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Speaker 2: It's just dawning on me how interesting it is that

475
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: we have these massive things that we just add more

476
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: stress to our plate. When I don't think that that's

477
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: our intention, but we do. We just kind of get

478
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: lost in the sauce of it all a little bit

479
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: and lose perspective. And it seems like on a bigger

480
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: scale even in life right now, everyone's kind of just evaluating,

481
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: like like we're looking at the government, We're looking at

482
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: these big corporations, and we're like, yo, do I believe this?

483
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: Like what do I actually support here? Like we're just

484
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: asking those questions, and so I'm just putting the question

485
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: out there about this stuff. Like right after talking about

486
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: the science of spirituality with Lisa Miller, I was like, Okay,

487
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: so if our brains are actually wired for this, it's

488
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 2: more important than even I thought, like, it's more important

489
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: to have that thing where I can get back in

490
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: touch with myself or where I'm slowing down enough to

491
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: have the gratitude and not just like going going, going, going,

492
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: going and missing the for the points and stuff, you know,

493
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: and like again getting lost in the sauce and not

494
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: and even if I have good intentions, not even enjoying myself.

495
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's so easy, it's so easy to get

496
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: wrapped up in the overdoing it of it all. And

497
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: it really is meant to be a time to sort

498
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 3: of sit back and reflect on the year and so

499
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: sort of go a little inward even though you're spending

500
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Speaker 3: time with people and it's really easy to miss the mark.

501
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Speaker 1: So for you know, you're yelling in the church parking lot.

502
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Speaker 2: I will say, like shopping at this time of year

503
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: makes me want to like just yell at everybody.

504
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: Because it is impossible to find a parking spot, oh.

505
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: Parking garage, the mall in Green Hills right now is

506
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: just my literal nightmare. I had to go do some

507
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: returns from a job yesterday and I was like, this

508
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: is something I would have gotten done in thirty minutes

509
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: on a normal day.

510
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: It took me like two hours.

511
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

512
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just that kind of thing.

513
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, you do, you're like, ah, everybody, get out

514
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: of the way.

515
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: Well, and then then there's like, you know, we're all

516
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: celebrating in different ways. So it's like if you're if

517
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: you're imbibing a little too much on the alcohol, that's

518
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: probably raising your stress levels. It's not making things easier.

519
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: You're sleeping well, you're waking up with a hangover. Next thing,

520
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 3: you know, Betty's steal in your parking spot. Fucking Betty,

521
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: fucking battye God.

522
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I hope you guys take anything that you

523
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: like from this.

524
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: Leave the rest.

525
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: That's also a spiritual practice, I always like to say.

526
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, just I think the reminder here is take

527
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: care of yourself. Like I said, my one of my

528
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: practices is going to be making sure I get a

529
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: lot of sleep so that whenever January rulls around, I'm rejuvenated.

530
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go again. I'm excited about work and

531
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: like bringing my best self forward versus just exhausting myself

532
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: and stressing myself out more and then needing that break

533
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: in January when life is starting again and work is

534
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: starting again and all the things.

535
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, skip that New Year's Eve party.

536
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe not that, but yeah, you could

537
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: still have fun.

538
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can still have fun. Yeah. I really look

539
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: forward to, like turning the page. I literally see the

540
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: physical manifestation of turning the page. Yeah, And it's like closing,

541
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, closing this chapter which was this year, and

542
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: moving on and coming back refreshed and believing myself again

543
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: and knowing that I can survive it and do it yeah,

544
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Speaker 3: praise be amen.

545
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: If you guys have any funny stories that you're thinking

546
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: of as we're talking about this funny stuff about this

547
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: supposedly being one of the most spiritual times of year

548
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: and it going awry or wrong, please email us at

549
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: the Edge at velvet edge dot com just because we

550
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: would love the giggles that would be really exciting about.

551
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: Can also hit me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, I'm.

552
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: At Chip doorshts H I P D O R S

553
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Speaker 3: C H.

554
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Speaker 2: And as you guys go into the weekend and the

555
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: holiday and you're living on the edge, I really hope

556
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: you do remember.

557
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: To always act spiritual and casual. Let's just spiritual and casual.

558
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: Okay, casually spiritual.

559
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Casually spiritual. Is that what we want to say?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's okay, alright, bye bye, yeah,