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Speaker 1: hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone,
Speaker 1: it is Friday, and we have got another Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: for your brand new myself, Mickey, Rob Brian All coming
Speaker 1: straight live to your phone wherever you're watching, connected TV
Speaker 1: devices whatever, with the new Talking Cowboys today. And we've
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about here in the SWBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio because, as we talked yesterday, the injury report
Speaker 1: continues to get larger and larger, which happens as you
Speaker 1: get through the weeks of the NFL. But before we
Speaker 1: get to all that not so fun stuff, what's going
Speaker 1: on fun in your life? Mickey? I think when we're
Speaker 1: introduced should be like Jack in a box. We just
Speaker 1: pop up, pop up like this, like whack a mole. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that would be good t see each time
Speaker 1: the guy says their names, we just pop up, pop up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We need to encourage them to watch on their connected
Speaker 1: TV devices in online so they can see that. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: It's tour or Friday by the way cash or Friday.
Speaker 1: So make people here. Oh, so behave yourself because they're
Speaker 1: gonna be people walking through yourself. You guys, watch your back.
Speaker 1: It's always Taylor Nike and see it's always when we're
Speaker 1: doing that, Tommy John read it really is. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: never fails. We got a good one for today too,
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, wait my choice. Oh man, it's
Speaker 1: just the worst, but it is not the worst. Tommy
Speaker 1: John is great, but it's the best. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: you know, you guys, get you guys feel it. We
Speaker 1: know what you were saying. You know. Now, I know
Speaker 1: what a lot of Cowboys fans were thinking when they
Speaker 1: saw the injury report from yesterday. They were thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, are you gonna play two days of DNP.
Speaker 1: It'll be three days, It'll be three days. Brian just
Speaker 1: did this signal for out. Yeah, he warmed up with
Speaker 1: the team, did the stretch and whatever they do before
Speaker 1: they do their stretching, and then he did his jumping
Speaker 1: jacks and then departed. Yeah he was not there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I can't imagine he'll be ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Charles Tapper did get officially moved to the reserve
Speaker 1: injured list with the foot injury. Now, surgery today, surgery today,
Speaker 1: eight to ten weeks, right, Yeah, they're about sometimes surgery
Speaker 1: helps it out and it speeds up the process, speed
Speaker 1: it up. Right. I was told if I was an athlete,
Speaker 1: they would have done surgery, and I've been back in
Speaker 1: six weeks. You are an athlete if you have a
Speaker 1: body or not a professional one. That my life, my
Speaker 1: living depended on it. Now. Tyren Smith was DMP two
Speaker 1: and Robin MP again today. You think he was not
Speaker 1: out there? Yeah, it wasn't out there. No, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? I think that means they're saving him for Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think. I think you've only got so many snaps
Speaker 1: in your body and they're not going to use them
Speaker 1: all up in practice because you're a four time pro
Speaker 1: bowler that you can kind of afford to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. I think that I do think that Tyrant
Speaker 1: Smith will play. I'd really really do. I'm I was
Speaker 1: very curious though, if this was a game, maybe a
Speaker 1: playoff game. I think I think that I think Sean
Speaker 1: would play, would play, Yeah, I do, But with the
Speaker 1: bye week the following week, you know, just another week
Speaker 1: So what did Jerry say on the fan today Rob
Speaker 1: about that? He basically said that, he said, if you
Speaker 1: didn't have the bye week, you could be more aggressive
Speaker 1: towards his availability, although they want to be mindful of
Speaker 1: not reinjuring that thing, the hamstring. But yeah, he didn't
Speaker 1: rule him out, but it sure sounds like they're airing
Speaker 1: on the side of caution with their all pro linebacker. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And now Anthony Brown was new to the injury report yesterday,
Speaker 1: limited with the ankle. What'd you see out there today?
Speaker 1: Make you when you see he was out there and
Speaker 1: he went through the everything up to the stretch and
Speaker 1: then when they got into individually, he started and he
Speaker 1: came back and I think they were going to retape
Speaker 1: his ankle but left. Yeah, it looked like he was
Speaker 1: going to continue to do something today. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: they'll list them. Is limited might have something to do
Speaker 1: with your inactives though too this week you think about that,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown? Yeah, yeah, we'll get to the inactives and
Speaker 1: who we're all guessing shortly. But of course, you know,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens still full. He's back this week. Guys. We're
Speaker 1: ready to see that, especially with Sean Lee probably out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that Anthony Hitchins
Speaker 1: is going to start for you good be a weak
Speaker 1: side lineback, week side linebacker. Yeah, And which is interesting, sorry, Brian,
Speaker 1: go ahead. Is interesting because we're talking about Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: and trying to help out his workload. But if there's
Speaker 1: no Sean he's still got to be an integral part
Speaker 1: of what the he does at middle linebacker. Like you said, Mick,
Speaker 1: if if Hitchins plays the will you still got Jalen
Speaker 1: in there? You still got Justin Durant? Is an option?
Speaker 1: Give me your plan you think, I think Durant there,
Speaker 1: he comes in on nickel dime or whatever. If they
Speaker 1: have two linebackers and they can rotate who's in the
Speaker 1: middle and who's on the week's side. To agree with that,
Speaker 1: you might want Hitchens in the middle and Duran on
Speaker 1: the outside. Or you can do it the other way around.
Speaker 1: You give Hitchens the green dot. Uh I would? I would?
Speaker 1: I would too. Communication take take take that that pressure
Speaker 1: off of Jalen. And it's not that difficult, right You
Speaker 1: hear it's smart, You hear the play in your ear
Speaker 1: and you call it in the huddle, but you also
Speaker 1: got to make some adjustments, and Shawn Lee was taking
Speaker 1: care of all the They put a lot on Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith's shoulders this past week. Yep, that's great. And now guys,
Speaker 1: Stephen payed yesterday making you you just do not feel
Speaker 1: confident now. And he wasn't out there again today. So
Speaker 1: that's three weeks in a row without any practice. He
Speaker 1: tried to play through last two games and I think
Speaker 1: they got diminishing returns last week. I think he gets
Speaker 1: to rest this week next week and then see where
Speaker 1: he's at going towards the San Francisco game. And absolutely,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it here on the show about
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll's concussion and being in concussion protocol, and the
Speaker 1: big thing that I think, you know, Mickey, you were
Speaker 1: really bringing up was Okay, say he can go, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna matter what he can do the next day.
Speaker 1: He always feeling again fool yesterday. I believe that's a
Speaker 1: good sign. What did you think by the way Jason
Speaker 1: answered that after on the walk off today about him,
Speaker 1: I had Jerry Doody. Oh you had Jerry Doody. Well,
Speaker 1: then I can't I was listening. Don't you think he
Speaker 1: sounded like he wasn't ready to go? He sounds like
Speaker 1: that he is a yeah really as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's out of it yet. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think too, That's what I'm saying. It's going to affect
Speaker 1: how you think about what you're doing with with Anthony
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. I think Anthony Brown plays, yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: but he's I think, you know, he got a little
Speaker 1: compromised yesterday. He's gonna be compromised today. They're gonna fully
Speaker 1: treat this ankle and see if they can get him
Speaker 1: as healthy as possible. But you know, there was some thought, well,
Speaker 1: can Nolan Carroll go the thing you had with a Woozier.
Speaker 1: That's what I was bringing up with a Woozier, or
Speaker 1: was going to bring up with the Woozier. The fact
Speaker 1: that he can play corner and he can play potentially
Speaker 1: some safety, you know, could kind of help you a
Speaker 1: little bit in that regard. Absolutely, And yeah, Woozier being back,
Speaker 1: this will be his first game back since he went
Speaker 1: out early in the Broncos game, and big task here
Speaker 1: with the Packers offense coming in and ready to fire
Speaker 1: off let me ask you guys a question, if I
Speaker 1: could please do just from what you've seen Mickey and
Speaker 1: Camp of a Woozier and coverage, is that would that
Speaker 1: be a good option to have on the field instead
Speaker 1: of say a Cavon Frasier. Well, you would have Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods in there. No, I know, but if you had,
Speaker 1: if if they brought, if they brought, say they wanted
Speaker 1: to play with an extra defensive instead of playing Woods
Speaker 1: could play, Jones could play. But having another I'm saying
Speaker 1: if Yeah, I mean, because see, we've seen is versatile
Speaker 1: enough that he could line up in the slot, he
Speaker 1: could line up back. We haven't seen him do that
Speaker 1: in a game, right, Um, But I think that there's
Speaker 1: a spot somewhere on those change up defenses for him
Speaker 1: if he's not indeed starting. Yeah, And I don't know
Speaker 1: that they throw him out and say, okay, you're starting
Speaker 1: ahead of Anthony Brown and less Brown is is limited,
Speaker 1: I mean somewhat compromised. I think they would go with
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis Shrob before they would go with on the
Speaker 1: left side. On the left side, Yeah, if you had
Speaker 1: to start standing out about Lewis, yes, Skandrick Lewis would
Speaker 1: start goes your three. I mean when you talk about
Speaker 1: Brown in there in the mix, I think they would
Speaker 1: start Lewis first and then figure out what they need
Speaker 1: to do with Ben Wickery and then also though with
Speaker 1: George with But I think you have to be careful
Speaker 1: on who's playing what side that they're used to playing,
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna be in base defense. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a nickel. So Scandrick's inside, so Lewis been playing
Speaker 1: the right the right cord, and you got to decide
Speaker 1: who's who's left right or correct? Yes, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're saying between and more of a safety role,
Speaker 1: a Woozier or Cavon Frasier. That's what I was kind
Speaker 1: of thinking. I was thinking that maybe how do you
Speaker 1: how do you get the best six guys on the field. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cavon, we talked about it during the week. He's
Speaker 1: been been one of the dime players. Yeah, but they've
Speaker 1: they've given up some plays downfield, so I think he
Speaker 1: might lean towards the lousier there. I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: already a pure corner in a coverage type situation than Cavon,
Speaker 1: who's been playing back there and dime. But he's more
Speaker 1: I mean, he's more kind of a box safety. But
Speaker 1: to Mickey's point, we haven't seen him do it, but
Speaker 1: we have, you know, in that in that Denver game,
Speaker 1: we saw him throw all those kids in there and
Speaker 1: go and say go play, you know, just go do it.
Speaker 1: And they they really might not have much choice. Considering
Speaker 1: green Bay. We don't think green Bay will be able
Speaker 1: to run the football. We think their motive trans say
Speaker 1: better not be able to. They don't try to run
Speaker 1: it really, I mean, their motive transportation this week should
Speaker 1: be throwing the football. So how many guys can you
Speaker 1: get on the field that can cover? And what what
Speaker 1: might happen is if they go to the the deacon deacon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you just use one linebacker there you go,
Speaker 1: because they what they did a couple of times in
Speaker 1: those games. They moved Heath up like he was a linebacker.
Speaker 1: But it's a dB, right, and so maybe you can
Speaker 1: leave Heath where he's at, use a woozy a there
Speaker 1: you go. You know, That's kind of what I was thinking. Yet,
Speaker 1: as many of those guys up front as you can
Speaker 1: cover with it's kind of what green Bay does with
Speaker 1: that nitro. Yeah, as you were talking about that nitro packet.
Speaker 1: Explain that to the fans who didn't hear the other day. Well, essentially,
Speaker 1: what they do is they're trying to get as many
Speaker 1: athletic cover guys as they can, using safeties as linebackers
Speaker 1: and less defensive linemen. And like Brian uses the term
Speaker 1: clog and cover, that's kind of what you're doing there,
Speaker 1: And so that's Mickey, that's an idea. I mean, just
Speaker 1: get as many pure cover guys as you can, more
Speaker 1: guys who can cover and run as opposed to you know,
Speaker 1: the bigger linebacker pure types. You ever had that nitro beer?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We've only drinked Miller Light beer. That's right, say, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a brand, it's the type they it's it's
Speaker 1: infused with nitrogen and it comes out real slow out
Speaker 1: of the town. Oh yes, I've seen that. It takes
Speaker 1: like five minutes to get a sixteen ounce beer. And
Speaker 1: why don't want to wait five minutes to get a beer?
Speaker 1: You know what it's really I've had it in Colorado
Speaker 1: ski joints. I would too. How much would you, guys, fans,
Speaker 1: would you pay to see Mickey on the mountain skin
Speaker 1: good skier. I know they better be able to keep
Speaker 1: up if they're I bet you Mickey's a black black skier,
Speaker 1: black diamond ski. As long as there's not bumps, I
Speaker 1: can do. I can do steep, but I can't do
Speaker 1: the bump. I'm still waiting for the tennis match between
Speaker 1: you two. Oh it will, It will happen in gund
Speaker 1: You know if I have broken ribs though I'm not playing,
Speaker 1: and I hope that's the same what happened to the
Speaker 1: Time Montgomery because Time Montgomery is still limited on their
Speaker 1: practice report. The only guy who really changed is Davon
Speaker 1: House and h who's this guy Nick Perry? And as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, on that limited, that that nebulous
Speaker 1: word we limited, He didn't. He reportedly didn't do anything
Speaker 1: in team periods. His limited was like basically Sean Lee's limited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything. And they finally admitted on Davante
Speaker 1: Adams that he's still in concussion protocol and he has
Speaker 1: You know, they're acting like, okay, Saturdays the deadline, Well,
Speaker 1: of course Saturday's the deadline. You know you're gonna make
Speaker 1: a decision. Is he cleared or not, so they don't
Speaker 1: have to say, right, yeah, they don't want to tell,
Speaker 1: just like Jason didn't give anything away on the injuries
Speaker 1: in the press conference today, right, they just don't have
Speaker 1: to give the other team uh an injury report and
Speaker 1: McCarthy's you know he's tops at that. Well, they this way, Garrett, Garrett,
Speaker 1: it competes with them. Well, you know what they do.
Speaker 1: It's funny. They they practice, They have their press conferences
Speaker 1: before they practice, so they don't have to answer those
Speaker 1: questions like Jason Jason does. Yeah, Rob and I were
Speaker 1: joking before. You know, it's funny. On Friday's, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: does speak to the fan around the same time that
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is going for his final press conference of
Speaker 1: the week and today, Rob sends out a tweet that says,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones feeling very good about Tyrn Smith. Would be
Speaker 1: surprised if he didn't play at all, you know, just
Speaker 1: very confident positive everyone's feelings. Okay. Then Dave sends out
Speaker 1: a tweet from Jason Garrett press coverts Tyrn Smith if
Speaker 1: he does anything today, would practice We'll be limited unsure,
Speaker 1: you know. Jonathan Cooper Byron Bell taking snaps at left
Speaker 1: tackle for preparation, just totally. I took the Rob approach.
Speaker 1: I retweeted Rob's I retweeted, Na, here you go. Jerry's
Speaker 1: kind of the big picture guy, and Jason literally he does.
Speaker 1: He's in the now. He's like, what am I thinking
Speaker 1: about five minutes from now? Okay, Well, Tyrann's probably not
Speaker 1: going to practice today, YadA YadA, but he's not thinking
Speaker 1: about Sunday. He's just trying to have a good Friday. Mackey,
Speaker 1: Tyrn can go out there after we leave, sure and
Speaker 1: do something because wasn't there when when when it would
Speaker 1: trick us? And by the way, you'll never guess who
Speaker 1: took on the dance role during straight Let me guess.
Speaker 1: Let me guess, girl, looney, it was an offensive lineman. Nope,
Speaker 1: somebody different. Jonathan Cooper, the veteran Byron Bell. Oh was
Speaker 1: that a sight to see and they've got video of it? No? No, yes,
Speaker 1: Well he went to New Mexico right right, and he's
Speaker 1: from East Texas, I mean where East Texas state is Greenville. Yes,
Speaker 1: he is from Greenville and they had named a street
Speaker 1: after him too. I know a lot about Byron Bell.
Speaker 1: Byron Bell, now I know he can somewhat somewhat. At
Speaker 1: New Mexico, we would see their rookie camp. We don't
Speaker 1: get to see that now for the Cowboys, but you
Speaker 1: would when you were in college and kind of see
Speaker 1: how they made the freshman guys get up and sing.
Speaker 1: Byron Bell was always the leader of that would be
Speaker 1: dancing on stage with him. I think he can do
Speaker 1: the worm? Did he do the worm out there? Mickey?
Speaker 1: What is the worm? You want to show me? I
Speaker 1: can't show you. No, he did not. He did some
Speaker 1: stuff like this he has put on his arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was quite assigned to see somebody three
Speaker 1: y pounds. Yeah, maybe he's gonna do the Tommy John Reids.
Speaker 1: We should adjustment needed all the music man, huh, Alex Herman,
Speaker 1: he got booed today mid mid song, everything went silent.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you never heard Mark complaining in your entire life.
Speaker 1: And he's in there. I believe they played that one
Speaker 1: song that you recorded, Vicky, the one song they just
Speaker 1: couldn't like. But anyway, the thing they do like is
Speaker 1: that Mike Daniels still limited. I think he'll be good
Speaker 1: to go for this game. But that's just happiness for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aligne yeah if Yeah, they're clearly their best players.
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about that with Daniels and then
Speaker 1: and then Kenny Clark. Yeah, of the two, but they've
Speaker 1: they've had their shares of struggles. This is a team
Speaker 1: that gives up. You know, we talk about first down
Speaker 1: runs and we all, you know, as fans, like to
Speaker 1: bang our heads against the wall, thinking it's too predictable.
Speaker 1: But you know, sixty one percent of the time last
Speaker 1: year you did it, you had some success. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as a Packer team, to give us up
Speaker 1: almost five yards to carry on first down, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: going to find a way to get some traction. Mickey's
Speaker 1: been asking to stay ahead of the chains. This might
Speaker 1: be the opportunity to stay ahead of the chains. If
Speaker 1: the Packers aren't able to kind of play with the
Speaker 1: you know, any type of you know, any type of
Speaker 1: solidness on that on that wall, especially on first down,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to take advantage of that. Absolutely. And
Speaker 1: and you guys were talking on their opposite side. Now
Speaker 1: Bolaga and Bokatari. You know yesterday Brian you're saying either
Speaker 1: one of them is going to go. Bokatari, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think David Baktari goes. I think he does,
Speaker 1: and I think that Bilaga is a No, he's got
Speaker 1: the high ankle spring. Rob talked about it today on
Speaker 1: the Xerox Blueprint for Winning. You know that is this
Speaker 1: an opportunity for the Cowboys to maybe, you know, take
Speaker 1: another advantage of a guy playing and you know they've
Speaker 1: had some success rushing the passer this year, but you
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be I mean, Cincinnati had success rushing
Speaker 1: the past or two and they took the l So
Speaker 1: it's got to be a little bit timely in the
Speaker 1: way you do it. Bilaga's backup is Adam Panky. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: see from not sure Yeah yeah. The thing he was
Speaker 1: a he was a street free agent. Actually, just need
Speaker 1: to know, yeah, if they just need to actually college
Speaker 1: Robert's McCray. Justin McCray sixty four, I know on the
Speaker 1: Packer depth chart they have it that way. And then
Speaker 1: it's not pinky no, no, it's it's actually it's actually
Speaker 1: justin McCray number sixty four. Now, you talk about a
Speaker 1: team that's completely opposite of what you are when you
Speaker 1: look at your offensive line, you know, if you think
Speaker 1: about the players they have now Bolaga was a first
Speaker 1: round pick. I think I'm right about that. Yeah. In
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, uh David Baktiari was a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. Lane Taylor, their other starter at guard, was
Speaker 1: a college was a street free agent. Their center was
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. They and their right tackle was
Speaker 1: a street free agents in two thousand and seventeen. This
Speaker 1: is a team that does not use high draft picks,
Speaker 1: with the exception of Brian Bulaga in two thousand and ten.
Speaker 1: They do not use first round picks on offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: We can use that. Whats Virginia if you just needed
Speaker 1: ton I needed to know. I appreciate you, Mickey. Everyone
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Speaker 1: Dak number December. That's a stretch. That's a stretch. Hey,
Speaker 1: but what we're not stretching on this week? Unfortunately, due
Speaker 1: to the injuries here to the Cowboys roster. Hey, let
Speaker 1: me tell you how big this game is. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: oh tell us, Mick, is it a big game. I've
Speaker 1: got a friend who comes in from out of town
Speaker 1: as season tickets for the packs from or the Cowboys
Speaker 1: top row one hundred section right under Jerry sweet Good.
Speaker 1: He sold them for one thousand, one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five dollars each. They're basically once you get pasted. Our
Speaker 1: ticket department'd like to hear that. Once you get past,
Speaker 1: once you get past your saw on the secondary market. Sure,
Speaker 1: so you know you gotta pay for your license or
Speaker 1: whatever they call it the feet of buy tickets. But
Speaker 1: the ticket face values like what three fifty three eighty
Speaker 1: it's three fifty ticket. Yeah, yeah, one thousand, one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five. I bought those for Mickey so he
Speaker 1: could have prime viewing if he wants to get away
Speaker 1: from me in the press box. I'm just so generous.
Speaker 1: So that tells you what people are willing to pay
Speaker 1: to come to this game. This always worries me playing
Speaker 1: the Packers day about the number of fans they do.
Speaker 1: It's traditionally they go everywhere to watch games. They don't
Speaker 1: go everywhere. They're here already, they're here, but people want
Speaker 1: to escapewoay, hey let Brian finish this point. Go ahead, No,
Speaker 1: I just like I said, this will be one of
Speaker 1: those games where you feel like when we used to
Speaker 1: come down here for playoff games, bring a lot of
Speaker 1: fans went home disappointed a lot of times too. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a big This is a big venue for
Speaker 1: Packer fans to hit and as what a super Bowl here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys fans, you know you're talking about how big
Speaker 1: it is money wise, But Jonathan Leslie and Bobby Gibbs
Speaker 1: are driving down from New Mexico nine and a half
Speaker 1: hours they see this game, So I think it's always
Speaker 1: a big game. Yeah. The Packers people get upset about
Speaker 1: the number of opposing fans in the stadium. The bottom
Speaker 1: line is Dallas as a transplant city, so there's fans
Speaker 1: from Chicago, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Wisconsin. It's gonna happen. Detroit, huh, Detroit, Sure, everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have every northern city where they want to
Speaker 1: get out a winner, it's gonna happen. But as long
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys are good, there's gonna be playing blue
Speaker 1: and silver and well, I'm sorry Cowboys fans sept for
Speaker 1: Mickey's friends had sold his tickets for three grand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Cowboys fans. No Shawn Lee this weekend, probably
Speaker 1: as let's get into the inactives always, guys, I'll run
Speaker 1: him off the seven guys I'm thinking, and you guys agree, disagree,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into discussion after So Cooper rush number seven. Yes,
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden, Yeah, I thought that was going to change
Speaker 1: last week and blow and behold what happened? There you
Speaker 1: go McFadden, I mean with Morris with a big run.
Speaker 1: So well we'll see. I have a question on that too.
Speaker 1: And he qualified for the guest on The Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: Show too, did he? He did? Nolan Carroll, Shawn Lee,
Speaker 1: Stephen Paya. I have one of an either or sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly which one. Last week mine was
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden or Alfred Moore as Chad's green or Cavon
Speaker 1: Frasier a green starting and finally Noah Brown. All right,
Speaker 1: well let's get into that Mike Chads green starting. So
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be Cavon Frasier then inactive? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I hadn't looked at it. I just
Speaker 1: think Chas Green's ready to go. No, you think Chass
Speaker 1: Green's starting to guard? Yes, you think he's gonna start
Speaker 1: over over Jonathan Cooper Cooper, Wow, that's a fact. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Sorry, I just don't he stuff. He's healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like that they're going to go
Speaker 1: that route. I just to me, I feel like that
Speaker 1: they I don't know, this is just me, This is
Speaker 1: just me. I don't think they fully trust Chaz Creen Mickey.
Speaker 1: I really really don't. And I want to believe what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I really really do. But I feel like
Speaker 1: though is as badly as we saw what happened with
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper. I think a lot of it had to
Speaker 1: do with a late week assertion into the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think I think that I think Jonathan Cooper starts
Speaker 1: this game, and I think there is I think that
Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about that. They were talking about
Speaker 1: splitting reps with Bell and Green at tackle as the backup,
Speaker 1: you know, because we think that Smith is going to
Speaker 1: play the owner general manager says he's gonna play miss Emmett. Clearly,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, but I just have a feeling that
Speaker 1: better you would sit Chaz Green. I if you gave
Speaker 1: me a choice between sitting Chads Green or sitting Cabon
Speaker 1: Frasier on her list, I would sit Cabon Frasier myself,
Speaker 1: because I Cabon Frasier if if, if I'm trusted. I
Speaker 1: asked Jason Garrett this question in the walk off, and
Speaker 1: this is and this is why I appreciate what Tay's
Speaker 1: list is because I if you tell me that that
Speaker 1: he's a better cover guy than Cabon Frasier', I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put him on my forty six because I need guys
Speaker 1: that can cover. So maybe you do sit cab On Frasier.
Speaker 1: It made seventy nine, But I just have a feeling
Speaker 1: they're gonna start Jonathan Cooper. I really really do, boy
Speaker 1: that that kind of sounds like, Oh, they're putting the
Speaker 1: blame on Chaz Green for the first three games. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's fair. Yeah, I mean, you know, to me,
Speaker 1: it's Lyle Collins, there's some there's you knew there was
Speaker 1: gonna be some growing pains with him at right tackle,
Speaker 1: so why not the same way at Chads Green at
Speaker 1: left guard. Why are you pulling the plug on him?
Speaker 1: I'm just not healthy. I just thought it was a
Speaker 1: better run blocker between the two between Cooper and Green.
Speaker 1: Green's better, Green's a better player all around. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I just have my doubts what they might do.
Speaker 1: I mean when your list, when with your list, I
Speaker 1: you know, if you told me that they're splitting reps
Speaker 1: at tackle and we've seen we've seen Chads Green have
Speaker 1: some successive tackle. I just don't know if the coaches
Speaker 1: have the confidence in him now. I really really don't
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, To stay healthy, make it yes, liability,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. If it's about performance. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: him in the first three games and say, oh, he's
Speaker 1: the reason why there's no no. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a Cooper was bad the other day. He
Speaker 1: was bad. I think all five guys can share and
Speaker 1: when they're that's downs as fair. In the first three
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, and Travis Frederick spoke to have
Speaker 1: a really good quote during the week. It said it
Speaker 1: all it takes is one guy to him. He's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And because they're they're like a they're like connected on
Speaker 1: a string. It affects everything else. Do you really need
Speaker 1: Noah Brown out there? That's saying him is my last guy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she put Noah Brown on. I believe that's what you said, right.
Speaker 1: You told me you can Yeah, you told me, well
Speaker 1: you can have seven without having any of those offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: Who I see who you put over there? Mickey wrote
Speaker 1: ben Wickery, Well why not? Well, I'm many kays it
Speaker 1: could cover. I'm playing with as many corners as I
Speaker 1: can in this game. So wait, ben Wickery up over
Speaker 1: Noah Brown? Yes, no, no, no, no. He put Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden, Nolan Carroll, Shaun Lee, Stephen piet and then
Speaker 1: his instead of mine. He put ben Wickery, no Brown. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he didn't worry about Chad's Green or Capon Fraser.
Speaker 1: He has them both active? Is that right, Mick? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What were your numbers again, Micky? I mean, if you
Speaker 1: just did numbers, is it seven? Rush twenty? Did you go?
Speaker 1: Did you go McFadden again, McFadden? Did you go? Carroll, Carroll? Yeh,
Speaker 1: ben Rickery and Brown? I just was no Brown in
Speaker 1: active last week? No play? Who's better on special teams?
Speaker 1: Cabon Frasier been Wickrean. That's not really a fair question.
Speaker 1: Cabon Frasier helps you in special teams for sure, core guy. Um,
Speaker 1: I just know Ah Brown, I know, I know they
Speaker 1: want to keep him active, but I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to keep six receivers active. I know in this game,
Speaker 1: you don't. I know, she said about the running game.
Speaker 1: He kind of helps there a little bit as a blocker.
Speaker 1: But I think this is gonna this game could turn
Speaker 1: into another track meet. I'm gonna keep as many of
Speaker 1: those secondary guys as I can active. I'm with you there, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why I mean, but I'm also if you
Speaker 1: told me who would you keep active instead of like
Speaker 1: a Woozier or Cabon Frasier, give me the guy that
Speaker 1: can cover, Give me the guy i've seen cover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more Weazier's out there. Yeah yeah, I think it comes
Speaker 1: down to um Geito. He's gonna be out there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: out there? Okay, good? Good? Both of them combined into
Speaker 1: one's great. But you you got rid of not rid
Speaker 1: not got but you sat eighty five, right? So you sat?
Speaker 1: Noah Brown? Yeah I did too. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 1: they want to know, but there I can't imagine they're
Speaker 1: going to sit one of those offensive alignment. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the tentative status of Oh Smith. That's why I
Speaker 1: think Bell's been practicing over there. Yeah. Now, I hate
Speaker 1: saying that this was a lucky break for the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys this week, but you know, a lot of talk
Speaker 1: while we were getting prepared earlier in the week was
Speaker 1: who are they going to make the cut to bring
Speaker 1: back David Irving. Of course they do not have to
Speaker 1: make that decision now that Charles Tapper has been moving
Speaker 1: r Of course we would never wish that on anyone. Sure,
Speaker 1: but that means that's David Irving spot now, so save
Speaker 1: somebody else's job. It did? It did? Maybe Ben Wickery exactly.
Speaker 1: It gets into Mickey's point about why not make Ben
Speaker 1: Wickery and active? Then if you were gonna possibly cut
Speaker 1: him this week and you can have Chas Green and
Speaker 1: Cavan Frasier with no worry active in this game. I
Speaker 1: think that the fact that they would if Nolan Carroll,
Speaker 1: if Nolan Carroll was healthy, I think he would be
Speaker 1: up in Carrol Carol, Yeah, instead of Ben Wickery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so then ben Wickery could have been an inactive guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you still have him inactive. Oh Carroll, Oh Ben Wickery, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put him in there. That's his guy instead of
Speaker 1: Chad's greener Cavon Frasier. Okay, so you kept Frasier, you
Speaker 1: kept two guys up with you kept thirty five and
Speaker 1: seventy nine up and put down twenty three and twenty four. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and I put down twenty four. And then my indecision
Speaker 1: was on Chad's greener Cavon Frasier as one. He's got
Speaker 1: a point about the offensive lineman though. And if you
Speaker 1: gave me a choice between Chad's green and Cavon Frasier
Speaker 1: of who can help me the most, Wow, that's because
Speaker 1: but Cavon Frasier's good. We saw we saw seventy nine
Speaker 1: dress last week and didn't play a snap. But it's
Speaker 1: kind of what Rob was giving you guys. The hint
Speaker 1: at is they might do that, just like they did
Speaker 1: for Noah Brown in the Denver Broncos game, to be
Speaker 1: that insurance for Terence Williams. Sam. Still, I'm still not
Speaker 1: sure why they did it. I'm not either, Because you
Speaker 1: had Looney to be your swing center guard and you
Speaker 1: had Byron Bell to be your backup tackle. I assumed, yeah, guard,
Speaker 1: see to me? Then he played mostly We watched Looney
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He played mostly center. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: did play some guards. I know he's Cooper was playing center.
Speaker 1: I know he's technically your swing guy. But I think
Speaker 1: maybe if things were going downhill, it left guard. You
Speaker 1: had Chaz Green available. But think about who they brought
Speaker 1: in and when they went three tight with an extra
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, it was Looney. It was Chaz Green, right,
Speaker 1: ite't Byron Bell? It was Looney. Well, why else would
Speaker 1: he be active? Though? Who's that Chazz? Oh? I wish
Speaker 1: they would have had I wish they had Tapper active. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that to me, an extra rusher, that would have made
Speaker 1: more sense. Yeah, Tapper, Poor Tapper. We're gonna go into
Speaker 1: another season next year of still not knowing, still not
Speaker 1: know how many games was he inactive already this year?
Speaker 1: Two or three? Just two? He got a sack in
Speaker 1: the opener, and it's like, yeah, I was surprised he
Speaker 1: was inactive the last couple of weeks. I really was.
Speaker 1: And I know you want Taco to play, but can't
Speaker 1: you find a way to get him all active? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe rotate him a little bit give him some snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bigger question that I had last week. My or
Speaker 1: question last week was Alfred Morris or Darren McFadden. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris ended up having a good game that was
Speaker 1: such a down to the wire thinking McFadden was going
Speaker 1: to be up. I just thought, looking at how they
Speaker 1: had done things during the week of last week, that
Speaker 1: that was really their direction that they were leaning on
Speaker 1: and talking to a few coaches, that they were thinking that.
Speaker 1: But then of course that came down to Alfred Morris.
Speaker 1: But it goes back to what Mickey brought up that
Speaker 1: I've kind of created, is like, yeah, that's a good theory. Okay,
Speaker 1: is he Elliott? We still don't know the decision sure
Speaker 1: from this fifth court here, and I know, Rob, you're
Speaker 1: shaking your head, but this affects things, You're right, it does.
Speaker 1: You know, if Darren McFadden now going maybe being inactive
Speaker 1: this Sunday and then going into the bye week, he's
Speaker 1: going to be really really fresh if they need him
Speaker 1: from a decision from that court. It's two years in
Speaker 1: a row. You know, this wasn't an issue last year,
Speaker 1: but he came in December, had fresh legs and replaced
Speaker 1: Alfred as the second back. So yeah, he's talk about insurance.
Speaker 1: He's ultimate insurance there. We don't know when this zeek
Speaker 1: decision is kind of gonna come down. It could be
Speaker 1: as soon as today, could be the bye week, Monday
Speaker 1: or Tuesday. But you'd like to think by the bye
Speaker 1: week we would know have some clarity whether Zeke's going
Speaker 1: to be on the field going forward or not. For
Speaker 1: the rest I'm going to put odds on it. Everybody
Speaker 1: pick a day that we find out. I say, Monday
Speaker 1: at five thirty, like everyone's tired from the day before.
Speaker 1: You you want to go home? Or this Friday at
Speaker 1: five thirty, not today at five thirty. Please please, my
Speaker 1: family's coming into town. Exactly. You need a break. I'm
Speaker 1: taking two. I take Tuesday. I like Tuesdays today. It
Speaker 1: gives them midday, midday where we're looking at whenever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think mid morning. I'll go with that to me,
Speaker 1: to me that it all figured out. That that gives them,
Speaker 1: It gives him money, gives gives him this week, It
Speaker 1: gives him the weekend for any final things they need
Speaker 1: to think about. To to alert the NFL and Zeke's people,
Speaker 1: Hey listen, we're gonna come with a decision Monday kind
Speaker 1: of gives him some day to kind of clean, extra
Speaker 1: time to clean up anything. And then Tuesday, you've got
Speaker 1: all your your ducks in a row and this is
Speaker 1: our decision. So when they announced a decision like that, dude,
Speaker 1: they have to get everybody back in the courtroom or
Speaker 1: they just say this is I think they just text.
Speaker 1: They don't need to fly any Yeah. I think I
Speaker 1: think they just tell. I think they just tell what
Speaker 1: the decision is tweeted out. If you guys follow at
Speaker 1: Fifth Court, somebody in charge would have done that. Judge
Speaker 1: tweets with like a gavel emoji or something like that.
Speaker 1: Bam official alert alert the media when they when the
Speaker 1: moz Ant in Texas ruled, he just they just announced it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't he could have gone on the website. Wasn't
Speaker 1: a reconvening after the hearing? That was what was Friday? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what my fear is that. Yeah, well, just guys keep
Speaker 1: us in the wall. If the headman was making the decision,
Speaker 1: we'd get it at five thirty in the morning. You're
Speaker 1: talking about Donald Trump, I said, the headman. The headman.
Speaker 1: When I think when we're talking cowboys, is uh. Jerry
Speaker 1: was going to make a decision. Yeah, hey before we
Speaker 1: go to breake um. And I know we got a
Speaker 1: lot talked about. But I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: had heard, but Bruce Hardy asked away a long time
Speaker 1: used to be in charge of Texas Stadium and a
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Speaker 1: and he'd been fighting it for a while, gonna miss well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's been retired, but bright Emy used to
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Speaker 1: more mobilized. He was driving it, but he passed away
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Speaker 1: And before we get to Rob's poll, we're going to
Speaker 1: get to the callers. You have a caller on the line,
Speaker 1: Jose from Florida. What is your question? Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: have a quick question. I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: downer guy, but I am having a little bit of
Speaker 1: concern with the corners especially with Anthony Brown. I really
Speaker 1: thought he would kind of step it up this year,
Speaker 1: especially after what he did last year. But it seems
Speaker 1: like he's I don't know if it's a sophomore slump
Speaker 1: where if I'm an overreacting to just a young player.
Speaker 1: But thank you, guys, I appreciate your time. Thank good question.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that he's played as well as
Speaker 1: he did last year. I think it's a fair point.
Speaker 1: He may, I really do, and I you know, puzzling.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen better out of Jordan Lewis than
Speaker 1: we have out of out of Brown, you know, and
Speaker 1: we've we've noticed more, uh you know, but I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Though they did try and run a screen
Speaker 1: the other day. I do remember the play to Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin underneath and he came underneath. He beat the block
Speaker 1: of Cooper Cup and then made a tackle. But we
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot. It seems like every game we've
Speaker 1: seen two or three plays from Lewis where we haven't
Speaker 1: seen we've seen penalties from Anthony Brown. So that is
Speaker 1: a that's a fair point, fair observation. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: it coming into this, I thought you would see a
Speaker 1: guy you know, he's taken over obviously for Nolan Carroll,
Speaker 1: so he's also my mind, is the Denver one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a chance for an interception that would be
Speaker 1: huge play in the game. But he's tied for the
Speaker 1: team lead an interception. They have three takeaways, Mickey, they
Speaker 1: got two interceptions, one each. They get it. You know,
Speaker 1: I think some of his problems, I hope some of
Speaker 1: the problem he's had once he's been on the left
Speaker 1: side is I think he's been caught in some zone coverage. Yes,
Speaker 1: and he I don't know if he played it too soft,
Speaker 1: or he played it to zone inside routes that opening
Speaker 1: and no one inside helped him. Yeah. See, that's that's
Speaker 1: what always bothers me about these guys that are press
Speaker 1: man type players. I have to say, Anthony Brown can't
Speaker 1: play zone or can't react. But man, you you play
Speaker 1: him off seven yards and they throw slants inside that
Speaker 1: is so hard for a defender to react to. I mean,
Speaker 1: the really the great ones are able to read it,
Speaker 1: drive and get it. It's almost like you're giving him
Speaker 1: that kid. Yeah, and that and that's that's that's unfortunate because,
Speaker 1: like I say to me, if it was my defense,
Speaker 1: I would play press man the whole day. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would take my chances that I'm gonna get some defensive holdings.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I would far I would rather be far
Speaker 1: more aggressive than I would. You know, but we've seen
Speaker 1: Marinelli play zone like he did in the air zone
Speaker 1: a game and then flip it to man and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden his guys come to life. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna have to. I don't think
Speaker 1: you want to play Aaron Rodgers in a ton of zone,
Speaker 1: but we might see some clog and cover here and
Speaker 1: try and make him keep build that wall around him,
Speaker 1: back him up, and see if he can throw it
Speaker 1: over the top of some guys. Absolutely, Robert, your poll,
Speaker 1: please yes. Leading into Sunday's major, he said it was
Speaker 1: a big game. It's a big game, Cowboys Packers major
Speaker 1: Key Sunday. I've got four of them, four keys. I
Speaker 1: know Brian's answer. Number one, keeping Rogers in the pocket,
Speaker 1: discipline rushes. Number two takeaways, as we said they have
Speaker 1: three so far through four games. Number three established the
Speaker 1: run was Zeke get that run game going consistently. And
Speaker 1: number four third down offense. They were seven to four
Speaker 1: foot on third down against the Rams, but they still
Speaker 1: found themselves in a lot of third and long situations
Speaker 1: so far this season. So of those four, which you
Speaker 1: guys think is the biggest one, door number three, Door
Speaker 1: number run the football. Three, run the football. Get a Zeke,
Speaker 1: you'll going, huh, get them going and keep them going.
Speaker 1: Does Zeke go off in this game, because then that'll
Speaker 1: take care of door number four? Yeah, the third and
Speaker 1: longs fair. Hey, I just want to see Zeke go
Speaker 1: off because if Zeke goes off, we talked about this
Speaker 1: on our Blueprint presented by Xerox. If Zeke goes on
Speaker 1: it zero Zerox Okay Xerox. Yes, Sarah, thought i'd heard
Speaker 1: that before you. Yes, we're all about that chitching as
Speaker 1: you were saying, as I was saying, if Zeke goes off,
Speaker 1: then it brings possibilities for mister Witten and mister Beasley
Speaker 1: to have a good day as well. And we've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about it on the show that Beasley and
Speaker 1: Witten suddenly shut down completely in the past two games.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see Bees do some sauce. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had a fantastic game against the Packers last season.
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns. He was doing the sauce dance all over
Speaker 1: the place. He should leave the dance line. He's getting
Speaker 1: a lot of respect. I mean the touchdown to Bryce.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen this too often. You
Speaker 1: diagram this where the safety is going across the field
Speaker 1: to double Beasley. I mean just pointing him out this.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna take him. We're gonna take him out
Speaker 1: of the red zone play and it's other guys have
Speaker 1: to step up. You leave the team in receptions and
Speaker 1: suddenly there's a lot of notice on you. Yeah, same
Speaker 1: thing like sacks if you lead the team in sex. Yeah, yeah, Ran,
Speaker 1: I know your answer. I'm gonna say the discipline because
Speaker 1: because I feel like though, even if you run the
Speaker 1: football and you have ten twelve play drives and you
Speaker 1: chew clock and you finish, he still has the ability
Speaker 1: to make big plays on those side of the field.
Speaker 1: He could take He could take at three plays and
Speaker 1: next thing you know, it's seventy two yards. It's a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Now you're back on the field and you're you're grinding
Speaker 1: it out again, and it all of a sudden though
Speaker 1: that if it if it wasn't him, I would I
Speaker 1: would totally say about running the football, like Mickey said,
Speaker 1: I think that would be huge. But the discipline. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some stops in this game. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to get off the
Speaker 1: field on third down, and you've had struggles. You know.
Speaker 1: My gut feeling for this game is going to be
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys twenty nine percent of the time have
Speaker 1: allowed an opponent to convert a third and ten. You know,
Speaker 1: third and ten, third and ten plus. You know that
Speaker 1: that used to be there calling card. Last year it
Speaker 1: was play money forty four. Get off the field, you know,
Speaker 1: get off the field. They haven't been getting off the field.
Speaker 1: And what I worry about is if you don't play
Speaker 1: with discipline against Darren Rodgers, if you let him outside
Speaker 1: the pocket, if you let him make that throws to
Speaker 1: Marty b or to cob or to Jordy Nelson and
Speaker 1: you're running around chasing him and you're not covering, he
Speaker 1: can It doesn't matter how much you run the ball.
Speaker 1: He could take two plays, three plays and sport just
Speaker 1: as easy as you can. Trying to grind this thing out, Well,
Speaker 1: look at last week's game. I mean, you know this
Speaker 1: team scores thirty points and that's not enough. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not enough. Dak has three touchdowns, not enough. Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying run the ball to grind it out. I'm
Speaker 1: saying run the ball to be able to score thirty
Speaker 1: something that you might you might absolutely have to guys,
Speaker 1: he's gonna score thirty points. Yeah, just face it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care how good your rushes. Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: score thirty points. He doesn't see the game they won
Speaker 1: at Lambeau. They took advantage of turnovers. They had some
Speaker 1: turnovers and he fumbles the ball inside the one yard
Speaker 1: line on a quarterback draw. Yeah, and they took took Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they took advantage of He threw an interception to
Speaker 1: Buried Church, he fumbled on the goal line. He missed
Speaker 1: a fourth down pass. If you remember with with Cobb
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field, that you've got to
Speaker 1: find a way. Like last week the Giant, the Rams
Speaker 1: beat you because they got three stops I think on
Speaker 1: the and the and had some turnovers. They had two
Speaker 1: take and had two takeaways. But they but they got
Speaker 1: you off the field three times on third down in
Speaker 1: the second half. That's all they needed. And you and
Speaker 1: you're to beat Green Bay, you're gonna have to do
Speaker 1: the same thing. You're gonna have to get off the
Speaker 1: field when you have the opportunity. You cannot allow him
Speaker 1: to hit a third and twenty on you. You can't
Speaker 1: do that again. He's the second best third down pass rush,
Speaker 1: quarterback passing. Yeah in the NFC right now. Jared Goff
Speaker 1: was number one. See that. But this is that's that's
Speaker 1: my key right there. I'm with you. I think Rod
Speaker 1: Marinelli spoke to this yesterday tape. They've got to keep
Speaker 1: him in a well, yes, inside the pocket, close the
Speaker 1: well and let him get outside. I mean the third
Speaker 1: and twenty is the textbook definition of what you don't
Speaker 1: want to have. Like Rod Baronelli's quote where he says,
Speaker 1: you know, once you get out, you just can call
Speaker 1: it a com completion. Get ready for the best place.
Speaker 1: And I thought Scott Linahan's quoting he's from Afar, he's
Speaker 1: not game planning for Rogers was summed it up so great.
Speaker 1: It's like when he gets outside the pocket, it's like
Speaker 1: the play is just starting now. Yeah, where he can
Speaker 1: freelance and buy time and his guys. Fine, he'll run
Speaker 1: for a first sound, he'll yeah, and Dak does that
Speaker 1: really well too. Yeah, Rodgers is the best in the
Speaker 1: league at it. See you're when you're playing defense and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see him break contain. Your
Speaker 1: first reaction is, oh, damn, eyes get big and you
Speaker 1: stop and now and then their their receivers are so
Speaker 1: conditioned to keep running. And as long as his eye
Speaker 1: level is down the field, you're in trouble. It's get
Speaker 1: his eye level down the well. Build the well, make
Speaker 1: him think about the well, and they can throw out
Speaker 1: of the well. Yeah, that's where you have to find
Speaker 1: a way to make it work. I mean tough thrown
Speaker 1: out of a well. We'll check it out. Though he's
Speaker 1: been sacked fifteen times in four games. They're one and
Speaker 1: and here's his passing statistics three eleven, three forty three,
Speaker 1: three thirteen, And I understand why it says one seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Against the Bears, he threw four touchdown passes and the
Speaker 1: Bears kept turning the ball over so he didn't have
Speaker 1: so his quarterback rating against the Bears, with only one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine yards passing was one twenty eight yea,
Speaker 1: So no one even though you stop him. He still Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at this quarterback rating against the Cowboys and seven starts.
Speaker 1: It's one one oh one point seven. I go on
Speaker 1: a limb here. He's the best I've ever seen. He's
Speaker 1: the best quarterback I've ever watched. And he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls or whatever, but he literally take. He
Speaker 1: has no weaknesses to his game. He's got the arms, ring,
Speaker 1: he's got the best accuracy of anybody. He can move.
Speaker 1: He's a student of the game too. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Dak Prescott. Oh, how is he
Speaker 1: going to study in his seconds year? Everyone was concerned. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Giants, they have Dak's number, they know how to
Speaker 1: beat this team. I think the Packers are more likely
Speaker 1: to have Dak's number and the way that they study
Speaker 1: and do different things. Yeah, they could have studied last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the equal I think this is where this
Speaker 1: is why, this is why I go different with you
Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah. I think that it's different because
Speaker 1: I think the I think the Cowboys. I think Lenahan
Speaker 1: has an understanding how to play the Packers defense. I
Speaker 1: think he has an understanding how to play against dom Capers.
Speaker 1: That part I'm not worried about I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: them running the football. I'm not worried about them throwing
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm really not. You're worried. I'm worried about
Speaker 1: the defense having to make enough plays. And you know,
Speaker 1: if somehow, some way you start to get stops, you
Speaker 1: get stops in this football game. But as you get stops,
Speaker 1: you got to keep scoring. I think that's what they
Speaker 1: did at Lambo exactly. It turned into a game game
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, now, okay, they're not going
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I don't think they're being able
Speaker 1: to run the ball in this game, but I do
Speaker 1: think that they feel like it. You know what we
Speaker 1: could get in multiple wide receiver packages. They can't cover
Speaker 1: all our wide receivers. They they're gonna try and match
Speaker 1: Marty b with Byron Jones. Let's see how that works.
Speaker 1: And that's what Rogers is gonna do. They're gonna let
Speaker 1: Rogers win this game. And we all know he's capable
Speaker 1: winning this game. But I don't I do not worry
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys offense in this game. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I worry about their defense. It's gonna be I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say first one to forty wins, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to score thirty some points to beat him because
Speaker 1: they're gonna score even if you well on defense, you
Speaker 1: would think. I mean, they only put up sixteen at Lambeau,
Speaker 1: but man, they did a great job of cut. Where
Speaker 1: did those turnovers occur? They inside the ten years, Lind Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were moving. They had a lot of total yards. Well,
Speaker 1: see they got the ball. I think one of the
Speaker 1: turnovers was the Dak was it the Dak fumble that
Speaker 1: first interception? And they got the ball and then Rogers
Speaker 1: they're driving and they run up. They try and run
Speaker 1: a quarterback draw and you know, the ball's knocked out
Speaker 1: of his hands. See that's what happens when you get him.
Speaker 1: You've got to make him and we've seen it. He
Speaker 1: just punishes him in the playoffs. He holds on the ball,
Speaker 1: so but when he drops it, you've got to make
Speaker 1: them pay for their mistakes. You know what I think
Speaker 1: he's got. He's got unbelievable peripheral vision. Have you ever
Speaker 1: looked at his eyes? He's got crazy eyes. He looks
Speaker 1: like he's manic, right, he sees Here's what Lenahan said,
Speaker 1: he's never seen a guy with that much pocket presence,
Speaker 1: eyes down the field, I sensing the rush all that.
Speaker 1: He really is one of the best feels seen that
Speaker 1: feel to play. He knows when he knows when you're
Speaker 1: trying to do something. It's playing chess. He's one move
Speaker 1: ahead of you. As you're trying to catch up to
Speaker 1: the game, he's already thinking about, okay, this is my
Speaker 1: next one. Because they will run play you watch him
Speaker 1: on tape. They will run plays. They will full on
Speaker 1: block for a run play, and he'll throw the ball
Speaker 1: outside the cop for a game of six and with
Speaker 1: a running play would have gotten two. It's just that's
Speaker 1: you know, he will take advantage third down, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you get him in, get him in third
Speaker 1: and long. All of a sudden, you're trying to get
Speaker 1: defensive personnel on the field. He'll run him the line
Speaker 1: and run a play to get twelve guys on the field.
Speaker 1: And then now he'll say okay, instead of third and twelve,
Speaker 1: it's you know, third and seven, which is manageable for him.
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, guys, so I get everything
Speaker 1: you're saying. I think yes. Aaron Rodgers, one of the greatest.
Speaker 1: So without Shaun Lee, who and you know, obviously Tank
Speaker 1: is great, two sacks ahead of everyone in the league
Speaker 1: right now. But without Sean Lee, DeMarcus Ores are already
Speaker 1: doing his thing. Who is the one player on this
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense who just has to be an absolute rock
Speaker 1: star this weekend. I think Hitchens is so important to
Speaker 1: this game. Shahn doesn't go because he's the veteran linebacker
Speaker 1: who's we assume he'd be in charge of the calls
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and kind of playing chess
Speaker 1: with Rogers. I think his presence in this game is
Speaker 1: really really important. Which tackled juice you thought would be out?
Speaker 1: I thought blog of the right tackle would be out.
Speaker 1: The right tackles that's Lawrence. That's Lawrence guy. So they'll
Speaker 1: double him, right, He still got to get somebody on
Speaker 1: that other side, yea. And they're gonna Irving have a
Speaker 1: big game. Well, he's gonna be inside either way, you know. Crawford.
Speaker 1: Crawford's Crawford, I mean, same decided. You know what they've
Speaker 1: decided over there. They decided over there that they're gonna
Speaker 1: go with power because they don't have anybody athletic enough
Speaker 1: to beat those speed gut tackles. That's so you got
Speaker 1: to try to power. He's absolutely right, and so can Crawford.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna be playing against a guy that
Speaker 1: hasn't played in a couple of weeks. Yeah, David Baktiari
Speaker 1: is not a very strong guy, so power verse power
Speaker 1: will be good, will be an advantage. But Bactra is
Speaker 1: a technician, so he'll he knows how to whole trip
Speaker 1: and clip. It's one of those guys. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: fundamental player. He's a fund He doesn't ever look pretty
Speaker 1: the way he plays, but he's successful out there. But him,
Speaker 1: I would have never believed that he was would have
Speaker 1: been as successful as he is coming out of Colorado.
Speaker 1: But he's outstanding, specially the way started off. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was that very good, very good. So all that being said, yes,
Speaker 1: you guys won the poll. Oh we never got back
Speaker 1: to those fablishing again best friends. Thirty nine percent say
Speaker 1: Established the Run, seventeen percent actually last keep Rogers in
Speaker 1: the pocket. I'm surprised by that pretty close vote this week,
Speaker 1: and I want to preface my vote there. When I
Speaker 1: said Established voted for Established the Run, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: run the ball times, right, I mean be efficient. Don't
Speaker 1: get all those runs for losses. Yeah, they've had way
Speaker 1: too many of those. Yeah, so far losses are zero
Speaker 1: or one. You know, run efficiently, and then that's going
Speaker 1: to open up the passing game and it will slow
Speaker 1: down that pass rush. Give Matthew something else to think about.
Speaker 1: I think that in running with his hair on fire, flying,
Speaker 1: flying out the back of his arm on fire again,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys offensively will be fine. I just
Speaker 1: can you hold up on the back end? Keep them
Speaker 1: below forty? Can you hold up? Can Rogers? You know
Speaker 1: what a goal is? That below forty? Well, okay, let's
Speaker 1: get to our goals, and guys will be watching. We
Speaker 1: gotta do some rancom mickey, you cannot pick. I don't
Speaker 1: get to Marcus Lawrence. No, nope, I've capped myself. And
Speaker 1: well let me think now, because I was going to
Speaker 1: take to Marcus. Okay, I told you yesterday. I'll go
Speaker 1: then eighty eight eighty eight, the Green Bay game gets
Speaker 1: under his skin. He's got no shields out there, he's
Speaker 1: got no hide out there. He may be looking at
Speaker 1: the secondary and saying, yeah, I'll catch me, Yeah, feed
Speaker 1: me I'm going to catch it. You're not going to
Speaker 1: question it, and it's going to be big and a
Speaker 1: game changer in this game. Throw up the X all
Speaker 1: day long? Does brand my guy? He had a big
Speaker 1: game in the playoff game, in the game in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: he was not healthy. Yeah, he was the guy for
Speaker 1: Dak at the end of that game when Dak was
Speaker 1: coming back, he knew he could count on Dez in
Speaker 1: the red zone. I think that Dez is the guy
Speaker 1: today or on Sunday. Yeah, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to the secondary. I know on
Speaker 1: the blueprint, Anthy Hitchins was my guy to look I
Speaker 1: like what Rob you know, was saying about Anthony Hitchins early.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at Orlando Scandrick in this game because
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandrick is gonna have to He's gonna have to
Speaker 1: find a way to play on the outside. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be some opportunities. Cobb and these and these, Jordy Nelson,
Speaker 1: these receivers. I don't think you're gonna get Adams in
Speaker 1: this football game, but they always seem to come up
Speaker 1: with some guy that all of a sudden, if you're
Speaker 1: covering everybody, then the other guy makes plays. But I
Speaker 1: think you know, they have to find a way to
Speaker 1: control Randall Cobb in this game. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can allow Randall Cobb to line up in the slot
Speaker 1: and have success and have success on the outside, or
Speaker 1: put him in the backfield, whatever they're gonna do with him.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be on Orlando Scandrick that the
Speaker 1: matchup between those two. He has got to be able
Speaker 1: to play quickness on quickness, he's got to be able
Speaker 1: to deny the football, and he's got to make some
Speaker 1: plays and hopefully, hopefully he can get his hands on
Speaker 1: a football in some tight coverage. I'm gonna go with Hitch,
Speaker 1: assuming he's active in starting try to limit those big
Speaker 1: plays they allowed last week. Since I've been prohibited from
Speaker 1: taking DeMarcus Lawrence, I'll take the guy that's usually right
Speaker 1: next to him, MALIEK. Collins, because if they want to
Speaker 1: worry about doubling and tripling Lawrence like they did last week, Malik,
Speaker 1: he's got to step up. I'm not saying he's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. He has to there. He needs to be
Speaker 1: a presence in this game in the middle because if
Speaker 1: you can rush Rogers from the middle, then you have
Speaker 1: a better chance of keeping him in the way. But
Speaker 1: if you start letting him stand in the pocket and
Speaker 1: then you over rush from the outside and he gets
Speaker 1: to the side of you, you're in trouble. Good night,
Speaker 1: Irene loves to step up in the middle pocket. You
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