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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wednesdays. They should a big blue kickoff live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. So glad to be with

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Speaker 1: you for the next sixty minutes. He is Jeff Feagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meadow two zero one five one three. That

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Speaker 1: is presented by Corps Lights. So we are now a

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Speaker 1: day away from the beginning of the two thousand nineteen preseason. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna play the Jets tomorrow night and MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Giants are going to be the home team. And the

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Speaker 1: reason they are playing in Week one this year as

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Speaker 1: opposed to Week three, which is usually when we start

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Speaker 1: to break down this game, is the Jets of the

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Speaker 1: Giants are actually gonna meet in the regular season this year.

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Speaker 1: So Pat Shermer said to avoid having the dress rehearsal

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Speaker 1: game be a duplicate of a regular season, he preferred

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Speaker 1: to be in week number one. It's crazy that they

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Speaker 1: actually listen to them. I ask and you shall receive.

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Speaker 1: That's that's impressive. It makes a lot of sense when

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Speaker 1: you think about it. Yeah, because you know this game

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night, you're not going to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: the starters from each team. But do you look at

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Speaker 1: the Jazz uh a new coaching staff, so certainly you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of new things and from that organization,

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Speaker 1: and a lot with the Giants. I mean, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to see Daniel Jones play tomorrow night, um. And don't

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Speaker 1: it's here, um. And this is kind of time when

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Speaker 1: players you get starting to get a little excited now

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Speaker 1: because you kind of you know, you're out there practicing,

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Speaker 1: you have all the O. T A s, all the

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Speaker 1: offseason stuff that's going on. Now is a young guy,

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to come and play your first

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Speaker 1: fun for those guys. Veterans. We just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: through it, you really do. Just want to get through

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Speaker 1: it healthy and you want to get one week closer

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Speaker 1: to the regular season, and that's when it all all

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Speaker 1: starts to begin for you. I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a great opportunity to see Daniel Jones in an

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Speaker 1: actual game setting. Also an opportunity to see a guy

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Speaker 1: like Dexter Lawrence Jeff who is going to play an

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Speaker 1: in to go role on the defensive front and secondary

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Speaker 1: to think about how many rookies they're gonna be lining

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest advantage for these young players.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much that they haven't been digesting the playbook.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much that they don't understand the speed

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Speaker 1: Jeff going up against the same personnel on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if you're not learning, but there's only

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Speaker 1: So I think that's why it's so important for the

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Speaker 1: rookies this first preseason game get that taste of unpredictability

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Speaker 1: going in a real life game setting. The other thing

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Speaker 1: NFL is set up the landscape, if you will practices

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Speaker 1: this is full go. Now though there is no, you know,

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Speaker 1: thud and shells and walk through. This is one big

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Speaker 1: boy football game tomorrow night where there's gonna be hitting,

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Speaker 1: good opportunity to those guys and it's a humongous opportunity

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Speaker 1: and evaluation process for the for the team, the coaches

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Speaker 1: see all the work that they put in to try

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Speaker 1: to get these guys that go out in the field

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Speaker 1: and play for real. This is it now, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not for real what you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, But it's a real football game and contact

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Speaker 1: will be there. As far as healthy players, Pat Shirmer

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're just throwing out some guys. Nothing official,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's just Jeff and I put two

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow's game, Which means, you know, the Giants maybe

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Speaker 1: taking a look at some experimental alignments within the offensive

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Speaker 1: not be in that game. If if they're new down

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Speaker 1: You know, you can get a good idea and practice

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Speaker 1: from cornerbacks because you know, cornerbacks they tackle, they they

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Speaker 1: tackle with their shoulder, they're they're they're tackling skills are

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter all that much. I mean in

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Speaker 1: but their cover skills and practice are very similar. I

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Speaker 1: want to see them, like you said, cover different receivers.

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Speaker 1: I want to see how they can do um in

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see those guys. And the other

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Speaker 1: one on defense is r J McIntosh um from Miami.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play last year except for the towards the

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Speaker 1: I want to see him what he's gonna do for

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Speaker 1: For me, Lance is is more than anything. I want

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Speaker 1: because that's a that's a that's a very interesting The

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Speaker 1: I think he hit on a lot of interesting points.

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Speaker 1: love the R J McIntosh throw out there. I want

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Speaker 1: to see Julian Love specifically, and the reason why he

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Speaker 1: another quarter. That to me is a very intriguing player

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Speaker 1: He's such an asset for a player to be able

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Speaker 1: then as far as the offensive side of the ball goes,

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Speaker 1: clearly you want to see the offensive line and a

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Speaker 1: variety of combinations. To your point, Jeff, because it's not

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Speaker 1: exactly what's gonna go next. I think that there are

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the guy's catching passes touchdown passes in

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Speaker 1: we'll see guys like Reggie White Jr. Out there tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Which turns me to the other thing that the take

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Speaker 1: up the whole show here. Sorry, glance. But the running

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Speaker 1: You know, who are the guys? Is it gonna be

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Speaker 1: Rod Smith's gonna be Paul Perkins, Um, Wayne Gallman. You

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Speaker 1: can't keep all these guys, so it would be interesting

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Speaker 1: it's Lance. It's okay. That's strike one, Mike. Let's see next. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's much different context than it being one or two

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Speaker 1: games where you just all of a sudden exploded and

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, a guy like Dexter Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a huge pedigree. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: how he gets off to a fast start and maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll but I think b J. Hill is a guy

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Speaker 1: that he'll take those sacks that he had last year

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Speaker 1: and learned from them. Okay, and collectively these guys can

435
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Speaker 1: can can get in there. Now. Thomason remembers moving and

436
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Speaker 1: moving his position again, you know that when they got

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Speaker 1: when they signed snacks and moving back outside. So I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, we'll kind of see how he plays,

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Speaker 1: but I don't don't be surprised if you see that

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Speaker 1: interior off the defensive line moving around a lot of

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Speaker 1: different positions. And and of course I gotta give to

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Speaker 1: Tino a little bit of credit here, which I hate to,

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Speaker 1: but I think he was onto something. And I was

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Speaker 1: on the show when he when he predicted that they

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Speaker 1: that that too to seven looked at the Giants have

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Speaker 1: gone to that other teams did in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That to me is not is not it's it's very

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Speaker 1: feasible that this could be a defense that the Giants

449
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Speaker 1: play very often. Because of just the way that the

450
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: National Football League is set up but if you have

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Speaker 1: the depth at the at the cornerback position like they

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Speaker 1: do this year, and they have some guys that can

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Speaker 1: play different positions. You have a Corey uh, Corey Love

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Speaker 1: to um, they can play out Julie, excuse me, they

455
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Speaker 1: can play. That takes talent. Jeff, you're in a leak

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Speaker 1: of your own. I'm still in preseason two. You gotta

457
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Speaker 1: work out the kinks. But that's okay. But these guys

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Speaker 1: will be able to be They can be on the

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Speaker 1: field at the same time. And don't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: maybe you see it tonight or tomorrow night. Well, when

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Speaker 1: you look at the secondary, Julian Love we talked about,

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Speaker 1: Jeff has the opportunity to be on the field. There's

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Speaker 1: a corner in a safety, right, Michael Thomas has the

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Speaker 1: ability to be on the field. There's a corner in

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Speaker 1: the safety, Okay. So that gives you the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: join forces with Antoine Biffett and Jabrill Pepper. So you

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Speaker 1: could really have four safeties on the field to your point,

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Speaker 1: and then in addition to that, Genera's Jenkins as well

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Speaker 1: as DeAndre Baker. And then if you wanted to throw

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Speaker 1: a Corey Ballantine or Grant Haley. And to me, there's

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Speaker 1: your seven right there. And the thing you have is

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Speaker 1: that you have two guys like Antoine Pathea and and

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Speaker 1: Um Jim Broll Peppers can be your box safeties in there.

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Speaker 1: They can play inside a little bit if you needed it, okay,

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Speaker 1: to cover some of those tight ends and but Um,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got to two defensive tackles or defensive

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Speaker 1: whatever it is that rushed the passer. Who knows it's

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Speaker 1: It's got an interesting combination to me to c be

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Speaker 1: able to see the depth at that cornerback position that

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Speaker 1: actually gives you gives you the the availability to play

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Speaker 1: some of those defenses that you couldn't do it last year.

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Speaker 1: You look at the depth last year at that position,

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Speaker 1: it was horrible. We're talking about horrible night and day,

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Speaker 1: and mainly because of injuries to which is a factor

485
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Speaker 1: in why they didn't necessarily have as much depth. Listen,

486
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Speaker 1: if you want to know about the importance of the secondary, Jeff,

487
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Speaker 1: all you need to do is go back to the

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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen playoff games. DRC gets hurt and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers says, oh, okay, this is the guy you're gonna

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Speaker 1: put in We're gonna test him, We're gonna see what

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Speaker 1: he can do right away. He didn't even hesitate. Second half,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just feasted. So that's another reason why it's

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Speaker 1: important to not just say we feel good about are

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Speaker 1: two to three starters right at corner. You better feel

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Speaker 1: good about four or five and six even to a

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Speaker 1: certain degree, because those guys are gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: on the field even without injuries. That's just the nature

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Speaker 1: of the beast in the National Football League. Two zero

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Speaker 1: one four or five one three is the telephone number. Also,

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Speaker 1: before we go back to the lines, the caller was

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Speaker 1: bringing up forty five hundreds of prediction for Eli. I

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Speaker 1: went over the quarterback rating. Eli has only had one

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Speaker 1: season where he's had more than forty yards. That was

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Speaker 1: to your point, Jeff, two thousand eleven, where he was

505
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Speaker 1: right near five thousand, and each side of that did

506
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Speaker 1: not get to fort hundreds. So once again, not to

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Speaker 1: say that Eli is not gonna have a good season.

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Speaker 1: It's just if you make those bold claims, whether or

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Speaker 1: not it's a trend or it's been something that happened

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Speaker 1: once in a blue moon. I think is at least

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Speaker 1: important to bring it to the conversation. So let's return

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Speaker 1: to the phones. We've got Doug in Rochester. Doug, Welcome

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Speaker 1: the Big Blue Kickoff Live. What Hey, what's up? What's

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Speaker 1: up yet? Thank you? I got a couple of things

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Speaker 1: to talk about. But last I got to ask you

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Speaker 1: about some information you gave out yesterday. Uh so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get right to it. Um, um my think Lorenzo Zoe. Um,

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Speaker 1: he he comes back, he looks a lot stronger and bigger,

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Speaker 1: and um he's been working on the off season his

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Speaker 1: moves and plus um Zimmer and Ze Liz and soldiers

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Speaker 1: and and he's been going against those guys and they've

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Speaker 1: been telling him about his steps, his moves, what they

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Speaker 1: can see. So I think that's gonna really help him

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Speaker 1: with the veteran officers lineman helping him tell him what

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Speaker 1: he's doing wrong. And I will see Zo with theinny

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Speaker 1: more sacks this season and the X man. I think

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Speaker 1: when he gets like later on the season, once he

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Speaker 1: get his moves, he brought the whole dominion and he

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Speaker 1: gets sit down pack. I think you haven't see some

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Speaker 1: sacks that are on the season from him too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a kind of he's a guy that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are interested to see the X man, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he's um very similar bill to Lorenzo Carter, and

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Speaker 1: those guys are fast, and you know Lorenzo Carter has

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Speaker 1: w was I was reading about his his interview that

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Speaker 1: he was doing about how those guys have been helping

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Speaker 1: him that first step. And I look, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the guys in the defensive end position or even

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Speaker 1: a defensive line interior, the first step. If you have

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Speaker 1: that first step, and you can and you can dominate

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Speaker 1: with that first step with leverage, it's over. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of those guys can't get leverage on those tackles

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Speaker 1: of those guards, you know. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: he has to work on how he's gonna attack his uh,

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Speaker 1: his opponent. Yeah, but I think the way he put

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Speaker 1: on about twelve until muster, I think that way it's

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Speaker 1: gonna help promote the strength. Yeah, I think definitely a

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Speaker 1: little bit too. So um well, not that I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to was about the inside linebacker position with

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Speaker 1: Kay Davis. Um that position when he plays, they they're

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Speaker 1: not really on the rush of the quarterback, right, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily unless you get a blitz on the inside. But

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Speaker 1: those guys are basically out there for you know, to

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Speaker 1: cover and to stop the run. I mean that's what

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Speaker 1: they're there. Basically, that's the job, the cover to tighten

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Speaker 1: the linebacker open open field, tackles right running back with

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Speaker 1: the date Davis and and that that position does right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Or if a guy jumps out into the flat and

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Speaker 1: they dump it off to the running back, you want

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Speaker 1: to make sure that that linebacker maybe comes over and assist,

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Speaker 1: especially if other guys are going towards the quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: when you look at a guy like Olga Tree, he's

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Speaker 1: really good at defending. I mean, look, he had four

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Speaker 1: interceptions four or five and so he five that's incredible position.

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Speaker 1: And um, you and Paul were talking about the Jeff game.

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Speaker 1: Mom a caller called in and said that I'm in

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Speaker 1: the same predict. Me doesn't have NFIL channel. But I

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Speaker 1: think Paul said, uh, defer channel on a m mother radio.

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Speaker 1: But you guy have to talk about I could on

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Speaker 1: the then when you say n Well, w NBC channel

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Speaker 1: four in the local New York, New Jersey area has

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Speaker 1: the broadcast rights for the game, so they're gonna air

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Speaker 1: it on Channel four. In the New York, New Jersey area,

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Speaker 1: and then it's also going to be streamed online at

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Okay, Son, so the game is gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the app e fact like the Apple my phone,

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Speaker 1: or it's gonna be live on the apples not to

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Speaker 1: wait a couple of days later to see. That's a

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Speaker 1: good question, Matt. Do you know is the game gonna

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Speaker 1: be streaming live on the app in addition to Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com. So that's to be determined, Doug. To answer

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Speaker 1: your question, We're not sure whether it's gonna be live

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Speaker 1: on the app, but if you go to Giants dot Com,

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Speaker 1: the actual website, you should be able to see the

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Speaker 1: game that way as correct, you have to actually go

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Speaker 1: to the official website. NBC. Yeah, I mean if you

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Speaker 1: if you don't live well yeah, considering you're in Rochester,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get w NBC channel for you get

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Speaker 1: your local NBC affiliate, but that's not going to be

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Speaker 1: broadcasting the Giants Jets game. Currant. Giants dot Com is

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Speaker 1: gonna be your best bet, correct, Yeah, that'll be your

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Speaker 1: best bet. Or like we said, we'll be having pregame

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Speaker 1: coverage and then the full broadcast on six sixty am

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Speaker 1: w f a N. And that you can also get

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Speaker 1: on w f a n's website. Yeah, because things the

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Speaker 1: Yankees are on the FM AM tomorrow exactly. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this just pull up on the website and see

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Speaker 1: if I can get it live. Okay, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for weighing in. Let's head back to the phone lines

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Speaker 1: and we'll check in with Mike, who is in Atlanta. Mike,

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do you

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Speaker 1: have for us? Hey, guys, how are you doing. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to the preseason just to get some football

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Speaker 1: back on the year, but I'm actually really disappointed from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint. I don't think personally, we're going to learn

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Speaker 1: a whole lot, if anything about this Giants team, simply

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Speaker 1: because is the three of the four teams they're playing

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Speaker 1: they played during the regular season. So if I'm coach

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Speaker 1: Shermer and I'm sure Jeff in the test of this,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to show the playbook at all during

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Speaker 1: the preseason because the only team they don't play as

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and the third game. Yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: and it you're correct, But you're also got to understand

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Speaker 1: that even though that these guys weren't playing if they

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Speaker 1: weren't going to be playing them in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: It's so vanilla. All of it is vanilla. The whole

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Speaker 1: preseason is an evaluation process. Uh, their game plan, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Uh, Mike, they give them to

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Speaker 1: them the day before the game. They're handing the game

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Speaker 1: plans out today, and so you know, these guys, it's

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Speaker 1: just a basic plays that every team runs around the country.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just vanilla football. It's an evaluation of

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Speaker 1: how this guy is gonna play against another person's personnel.

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Speaker 1: And that's all you can see. So you're right, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get a good idea what this giant

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Speaker 1: football team is gonna look like until maybe the third

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Speaker 1: preseason game. Because they do play Cincinnati right in that

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Speaker 1: third preseason game, they'll be able to open it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Correct because of that, I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see the starters for more than a quarter

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Speaker 1: in the first, second, fourth preseason games. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see anything significant from the starters until that

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Speaker 1: game against the Bengals. Yeah, it just depends on you know,

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Speaker 1: the ebb and flow of the game and the philosophy

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Speaker 1: of of coach Shermer. You know, there are some veterans

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Speaker 1: in there that that that the coaching staff want to

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Speaker 1: see play like, Um, you know, you're gonna see some

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Speaker 1: guys in there more than others because those are the

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Speaker 1: guys that are still they want to be I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're they're in an evaluation process right now. They want

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Speaker 1: to still. Like you're not gonna see Remors or you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna see Solder I mean memors that they're both

643
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Speaker 1: coming off of injury. So so, but you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: the backup positions in there, um, you know, and really

645
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: how much you are you gonna be able to tell

646
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Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones going against another NFL football team. I mean,

647
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a little bit of it, right, I mean,

648
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Speaker 1: but you know you just that that's just the preseason.

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Speaker 1: That's why to me, it's it's it's amazing that the

650
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Speaker 1: NFL still plays four of these. I mean, because really,

651
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: you could get away with two of them. Don't you

652
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: think Well said that the other day, did he really? Well?

653
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Speaker 1: He said, we'd be okay, we would you definitely would

654
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Speaker 1: be okay. And I think that you know from from

655
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Speaker 1: a fans perspective, we wouldn't be talking about this right now, Mike.

656
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: We really wouldn't. We'd be like, hey, the two preseason

657
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: games are okay, and then all of sudden, bam, and

658
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Speaker 1: two more weeks the regular season starts, and that's when

659
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna really be able to see what our team's

660
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna look like. But I mean, Mike, as far as

661
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Speaker 1: your point about them playing teams that they're gonna see

662
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Speaker 1: in the regular season, I really think that's irrelevant, and

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Speaker 1: I think Jeff hit on it. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: vanilla whether they're playing teams that they're not going to

665
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Speaker 1: see in the regular season or they are going to see,

666
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Speaker 1: because you never show as much as you want. As

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Speaker 1: as far as your point about the starters, remember Eli

668
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: didn't play the first preseason game last year and didn't

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Speaker 1: play an awful lot other than the third preseason games.

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Speaker 1: So once again, the opponent to me, is not dictating

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Speaker 1: what the Giants are doing. It's just the structure of

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00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: the preseason, and there's some starters that are coming off

673
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Speaker 1: of injuries, and also say Kwan Barkley work load that

674
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Speaker 1: I don't think they want to expose to extra work

675
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: now to preserve them for the six team game grinds.

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Speaker 1: So I really don't think it has much to do

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Speaker 1: with the opponents in the preseason this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: one of one of the things I am anxious to

679
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: see is, uh, you're gonna basically see a lot of

680
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: one on one battles where it's just beat the guy

681
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Speaker 1: in front of you or this cornerback covers that wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Of the raw physical abilities of these guys and you

683
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: know how they played out, you know, with no help,

684
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: no scheme, and no play calling. Just are they physically

685
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Speaker 1: able to dominate the guy in front of them? That's correct,

686
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Speaker 1: And you know you make a good point. So regardless,

687
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, who cares about the scores of the game, right,

688
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: We don't care about the scores. What you do care

689
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: about is your individual matchups and the personnels that are

690
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: in there, and that's what the evaluation is all about

691
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: in preseason. So is it from a fans perspective, Um,

692
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Speaker 1: get a little excited about seeing you know, some of

693
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Speaker 1: these guys matched up one on one wherever they are

694
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Speaker 1: the right tackle versus there the left defensive end. Okay,

695
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: cornerback in a one on one position in a nickel situation.

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Speaker 1: Look at some of the if these guys are in

697
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: man coverage or how they're playing their zone. Look at

698
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: the way that some of these guys are playing and

699
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: make your own evaluations. Technique. They're going to look at

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, cornerbacks. How do they handle now going up

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Speaker 1: against different wide receivers. Were you in position to make

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Speaker 1: a play for Daniel Jones. It's not necessarily the numbers,

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00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: Just like Pat Yourmer says, its practice. Also the decision

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Speaker 1: making direct show his aggressiveness. Did he try to throw

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Speaker 1: down the field if the opportunity presented itself. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of those individual factors, Mike, I would agree with you.

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Speaker 1: They're certainly gonna be looking for that um and just

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Speaker 1: one of the quick things. And I'll take your comments

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Speaker 1: off the year UH in regards to UH the regular

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Speaker 1: season and what we're probably going to see. As you

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Speaker 1: guys know, last year, we picked up six players on

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Speaker 1: waivers at the end of the year, which is something

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Speaker 1: in my almost fifty years of watching the Giants, I've

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Speaker 1: never seen them picked up that many guys right before

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Speaker 1: the season was to go and to begin. But this

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00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: year I really expect them to do that same thing,

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Speaker 1: probably pick up four to five players off the waivers,

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Speaker 1: and I would expect one of them to be a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver who can return kick off and punts with

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Speaker 1: golden take and be missing those first four games. We'll

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Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call, Mike, thanks so much for weighing in.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned t J. Jones, they just picked up Jeff.

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Speaker 1: He can return, so I really don't think it's as

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Speaker 1: big of a necessity as the last caller made it

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Speaker 1: out to be. And here's the other thing to take

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Speaker 1: it the consideration with respect to his point about he

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Speaker 1: would expect maybe the Giants to be just as aggressive

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Speaker 1: in making claims. This is year to Jeff. For Dave Gettleman,

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00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: you can make the point last year he didn't really

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to bring in the types of guys

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Speaker 1: that he wanted. This year, I think he had now

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Speaker 1: another full off season, so I would actually be very

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Speaker 1: surprised if the volume is that high in terms of claims. Again,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, um last year trying to build

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Speaker 1: a roster. He's had a whole cycle now, Um, and

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Speaker 1: now I just don't think that that there will be

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Speaker 1: that much of a need you hope. I think that

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Speaker 1: they have the guys in here that they feel they

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Speaker 1: can win with. You always want and they'll always tell

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Speaker 1: you if there's a better player out there than then

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00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: they have the ability to get them that they will. Um.

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Speaker 1: The one thing you have to look at you about, UM,

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Speaker 1: the economics of the football is that veterans. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you sign a veteran and he's on that opening

745
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: day roster and you decide to release him when Golden

746
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Take comes back from his suspension, that player is is

747
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: can cannopt to have his his total salary guaranteed. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of times these organizations, like I said, there's

749
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: so much economics that goes into the game of football.

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Speaker 1: They will shy away from signing a veteran on opening day,

751
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: but they'll sign him the second week. Because once you're

752
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: on the if you're not on the opening day roster,

753
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: then you're not guarantee your contract for the for the

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00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: whole season. So a little maneuvering from the GM spot

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00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: there and personnel. So that's something you have to look

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00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: at at the beginning of the season. No, I think

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: that's an excellent point, and you and I have talked

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00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: about that. Both on and off the air, the logistics

759
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: of the timing in which you bring a veteran in.

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00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: So that's something to certainly consider. The other thing that

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00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out, Jeff, And I think this

762
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: is where maybe sometimes fans, media members just start to

763
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: overthink it. I get it, Golden take cold. Yeah, I

764
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: know I'm going out on a limb here with that statement.

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00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Golden Tate likely will miss four games, depending on, of course,

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Speaker 1: what happens with his appeal. And I get it. Darius

767
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Slayden is banged up, but you know when we keep

768
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: fielding phone calls about they need to bring in another

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Speaker 1: wide receiver who's got return experience. Let's just look at

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: the depth chart here, Jeff, And this is what I

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00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: think is. Okay, Sterling Shepherd has experience as a return guy.

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00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Cody Lattimer has experienced as a return guy. Russell Shepherd,

773
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: he's not just the cover guy. He actually has return

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00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: He did a lot last year. Yeah, especially even if

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00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: you go back to Carolina. Okay, Darius Slayton, I'll put

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00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: in the list. I know he's banged up, but he

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00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: has returned experience. T J. Jones. I just mentioned Benny

778
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: Fowler has returned experience. I could go on. I just

779
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: named six guys that have returned experience not named Golden Tate.

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00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: Why aren't we so fascinated with finding another guy who

781
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: can return the football? Well, because they're just everyone's trying

782
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: to find somebody that's gonna be really good at it,

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: right And I will tell you this. I'm gonna tell

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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: you right now, the best returner on of all those

785
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: people that you just talked about is not a wide receiver.

786
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: He's not. It's Jabrill Peppers and I'm telling you and

787
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: he has gonna be fun to watch. Just you guys

788
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: watch you know a lot of the Giants fans because

789
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: you're in the NFC, you don't get to watch a

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00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: lot of the a f C team and watch, you know,

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers a very exciting player to watch. And I

792
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: think the guys that people are gonna gravitate towards him.

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00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's it's a shame because although

794
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have him for four for twelve games, Golden Tate, folks,

795
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: is a fun football player to watch. The guy is

796
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: a possession, he makes yards after catch, he's tough, he

797
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: doesn't drop footballs. He's a smart player. I think you're

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna all in love with him as soon as he

799
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: gets on the field full time. You look at some

800
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: of the plays he's making in practice. These are just

801
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: in practice. He makes these plays in the games all

802
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: the time. Now you know he's down in Philly last year.

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Have you seen the wide receiver corps they have down there?

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00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: No wonder they got rid of him. Holy smokes. I mean,

805
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, but you are gonna love the way

806
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: that this guy plays. Corey Ballantine's another guy we should mention, Jeff.

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00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: I think he's actually going to get maybe some work

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00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: as a return guy in this preseason. I think you'll

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00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: there's no question, And you know what, I like your

810
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: claims about Jibril Preppers. I don't disagree with anything you said,

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Speaker 1: and he clearly has the most experienced, the most versatility.

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00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, given Balantine's track background,

813
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: he was a track star, Ballantide could well emerge as

814
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: maybe one of their most dynamic return guys once he

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00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: gets a little bit more experience on this. And I

816
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: think Sherman is not afraid to put a rookie in there.

817
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean he told you that and so um. And

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: that's one thing I like about Pat Shermer is that

819
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't hold back. I mean, if you're on this

820
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, you're here to to to you know,

821
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: to to help this team win. You're not here just

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Speaker 1: to take a roster spot. I mean, you want to

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Speaker 1: do something for the team. If you if he has

824
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: the ability to to to break one on a kickoff

825
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: return and hit that hit that seam and go, then

826
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Speaker 1: put him in there. You know it. It's all about

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Speaker 1: ball security. That's the biggest thing in the return department

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Speaker 1: is give the ball back to the offense. You don't

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be turning it over.

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00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: That's the key. I mean, this even goes back to

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Speaker 1: a guy that you know very well, Tom Coughlin, and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even returned guys. It was running backs. You

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Speaker 1: don't talk to the football at the same We're moving

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Speaker 1: to the next guy. So that is clearly priority number

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Speaker 1: one to three four and then two zero five one

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Speaker 1: three is the telephone number. Hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Lance Meado, Jeff Eagles with you here. The latest edition

838
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Speaker 1: of Big Blue Kickoff Live presented by Corps Light. Let's

839
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Speaker 1: go and check in with Joe in Pennsylvania. Joe, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you have for

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Speaker 1: us today? Joe, Hi, Lance, Jeff talk looking forward to

842
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: this game, but uh, in a in a way, I'm

843
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: thinking it ain't gonna be much for our offense there

844
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: that uh Daniel Jones might think he brought his offensive

845
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: line with him if we're going to be using fourth

846
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: and fifth string uh tackles and guards. And if I'm

847
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Speaker 1: calling the play for him, I'll tell if he's drown

848
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: a pass play to throw the chuck and duck, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's well when you have Greg Williams, if he's

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00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna be running blitz is with these young guys who's

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00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: ain't even gonna be on our roster, you know, or

852
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: even in the practice squad, it it could get a

853
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: little whatever for for the quarterback going back for a past.

854
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: That's why they're gonna be careful. I'm sure do those circumstances.

855
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: I remember and we'll let you continue. Joe and Jeff,

856
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember this game. I bring it up

857
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: all the time, the Jets Giants preseason game. Number of

858
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: years back, Mark Sanchez and Gino Smith were both on

859
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: the Jets, and they elected to put Mark Sanchez in

860
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: the game. I want to say it was probably the

861
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, may have been late third, okay, and Mark

862
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: was playing behind what third fourth string offensive lineman. You

863
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: had hungry Giants players who are trying to make the team,

864
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: make the practice squad. Mark gets hit and then winds

865
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: up missing the season as a result of the shoulder

866
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: injury suffered. So, Joe, I think there's perfect examples to

867
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: what you're selling that. I think the Giants are gonna

868
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: say to themselves, we want to give Daniel Jones reps,

869
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: but we're also not going to expose him where perhaps

870
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: the offensive line is not in the greatest shape. Right. Well,

871
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying. You know what I mean

872
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: that the Giant fans is to take it eat is

873
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: easy on him because he might not have much of

874
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: a chance. You know. I think defenses are going to

875
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: be ahead tomorrow and UH. One thing to look forward

876
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: to is I guess how the reps are gonna because

877
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: we have a lot of young defensive back there. With

878
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: that new UH rule there, you know that can go

879
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: either way. You know, it's the review of past interference

880
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: essentially is what you're bringing up. So and I just

881
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: wanted to say a lot of the guys that uh

882
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: you don't get to see the game or at the

883
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: NFL network has it too if you don't have it.

884
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: But another thing, uh YouTube, if if you could pick

885
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: it up, they have a lot of our practices on

886
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: there and interviews. There's a lot of stuff. They'll probably

887
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: have the game taped on there again, so I can

888
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: pick pick out Paul on the sideline with all the

889
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: reporters and with Maryland. You know, you could see you

890
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: can see a lot from the big beginning day of

891
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: the whole practice is mostly all of them on YouTube,

892
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: so you know you'd be surprised you know what's on there.

893
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say that. And uh, one

894
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say too. I don't know if

895
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: you didn't mention, you know that the interviews Phil Simms

896
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: had there with our quarterbacks saying you know that they

897
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: they look like they you know, genuine Paul uh Daniel

898
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: Jones and that uh uh Eli is doing well and

899
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: then they uh bald and juror there his report on

900
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: our offensive line that uh, you know that that they're

901
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: really stepping it up. So the guys we brought in,

902
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: so it's if we can hopefully can just stay healthy

903
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: and and uh, thanks for taking my call. Appreciate And

904
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: that's a big part of any NFL teams outlook, whether

905
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: or not the group could stay healthy. But with Ramors

906
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: and Zeitler now on the right side, Jeff, you've got

907
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: two polished veterans who are used to playing with variety

908
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: of different personnel because they've had number of different guys

909
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: lining up next to them throughout the course of their careers.

910
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: And Eli has looked very sharp, looks like there's a

911
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: little bit more extra mustard on the throws. You're probably

912
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: not going to see that tomorrow, but I think for

913
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: those of us who have seen practice, it's not necessarily

914
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: an exaggeration. And you know, Daniel Jones, I think has

915
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: shown some of his flashes, but the next step is

916
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: what does he do against an unfamiliar defense. Well, I'd

917
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: like to at some point you gotta see Daniel Jones

918
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: in there with the first team offensive line, um, just

919
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: to get an an evaluation of how things go, because

920
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: after that it kind of gets a little tricky, you know,

921
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: in a case of Nate's Solder. You look at the

922
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: way he played the last seven weeks of the season. Uh,

923
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: that offense did much better. That offensive line on the

924
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: left hand side. Hernandez, you know, being a rookie last year,

925
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: started to pick up and and and try to he

926
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: he learned to play next to Nate's solder, as did

927
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier learned to play next to Hernandez. You know,

928
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: those guys has a feeling out process there. But now

929
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: that they have a little more familiarity with each other,

930
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: I look at that side of the line to be

931
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: the strength. Ramers is a guy that played in coach

932
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Schermer's offense before, so he's gonna have a little experience

933
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: with from that sense of um, but I think that

934
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: he's a veteran. He's a guy that if he can

935
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: stay healthy, he's uh, technique oriented man. He's not gonna

936
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: give up a lot of stacks and um, you know,

937
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be able to see how he plays right now.

938
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: And then you've got Zeider Zeisler, the right guard, who

939
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: seems to be this perennial All Pro. Everybody hasn't mazed,

940
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: never made a Pro Bowl, He's never been you know anything,

941
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: But it's okay. I think it's a guy that that

942
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: I told you. I think I might have told you

943
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: this when we were when we were on together before.

944
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Eli likes mean tackles the right and the left guard here,

945
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: those are two mean guys, and he likes that you

946
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: had that in Christni and rich Rerouter years ago. Um.

947
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: And then of course the offensive line, the center position

948
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: is still up for grabs, but John Hallipio is seems

949
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: to be having the upper hand there, which we kind

950
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: of thought he would be all along, but um, you know,

951
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: and Spencer Pully is a very valuable piece of this

952
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: puzzle because he can play tackle, excuse me, he can

953
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: play guard, end center. So there's your there's your whole

954
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: offensive line synopsis right there. Well, halap he always listed

955
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: number one on the depth chart, and hal Hunter has

956
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: said he tries to get at least Pully two series

957
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: with the number one offensive line during practice. And you're right,

958
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: whoever loses that battle is going to at least you hope,

959
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: provide depth on the offensive line. Is the backup center

960
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: slash guards, so only get you only get seven of

961
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: them on the game day. When you think about so

962
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: you've gotta have a swing guard and a swing tackle

963
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: in there. And you know, they're very rarely that they're

964
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: dress an eighth offensive lineman unless somebody's hurt. They just

965
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: they don't know if something happens. You know that's usually

966
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: the case. And you know you have those um you're

967
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: inactive all Americans we call them the guys that make

968
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: the team and are inactive every single game. I think

969
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: we had a couple of them, we have my the

970
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: last couple of years when I when I was with

971
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the Giants, I think we had we set records for

972
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: sixteen straight inactive. You know, but you just you gotta

973
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: stay ready because you never know when all of a

974
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: sudden that changes, and it could be simply because of

975
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: a special teams move. You never And I remember Tavaris King.

976
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: I brought this up a lot Leon Hall. The two

977
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: of them are on the team together, and then there

978
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: were certain games where Leon Hall was a healthy scratch,

979
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: Tavaris King was healthy scratch, and Jeff, you and I

980
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: are in the pre game and we're breaking down the

981
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: inact and we're getting like what happened here? Sometimes was

982
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: a special teams decisions, simple as that this guy we

983
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: need in a special teams situation. Yeah. The other thing

984
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: to watching the practice the other day, and I noticed

985
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: that Jabrill Peppers is the personal protector on the punt team.

986
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: So that's kind of exciting to me in the sense

987
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: that he told he told the press that he wants

988
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: to play offense, right, I mean he wants to play

989
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: a little bit of offense. Well, there's there's a one

990
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: way to get him. The football is right there at

991
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: a personal protector on the punch team. Just snap it

992
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: to the guy and let him go a little fake yeah,

993
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: or you know Riley okay is Dixon is, He's a

994
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: heck of an athlete, threw a bunch of touchdowns in

995
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: uh college at Syracuse. Just put Peppers in there and

996
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: swing them out, throw them the ball, let him go there.

997
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: You go. Don't give the rest of the NFL too

998
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: many ideas. Don't trust me. If I listen, if I'm

999
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: bringing it up, then they already know trust me. Yes,

1000
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: they have studied the skill sets. They know what Riley

1001
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: Dixon at DUBL. Peppers just I just drew it up

1002
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: for you know, for coach McGahee and those guys. So

1003
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: go for it. Two zero five one three, Lance Meadow,

1004
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: Jeff Feagles. Here, Wednesday's a Big Blue kick Off Live.

1005
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Let's check in with Ramon in New York. Ramon, Welcome

1006
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: to Big Blue kick Off Live. What do you have

1007
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: for us? Hi, Ramon? Watch the show A big fan show. Well,

1008
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in. We appreciate that. So what's on

1009
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: your mind today? I have a question, um, big fan

1010
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: and um, we all know that the chances of good

1011
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: play is going to be slim. So do you think

1012
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: it's a good idea? I think it's a good idea.

1013
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Do you think it's good for him to being a

1014
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz? I mean, he hasn't played, but he seems

1015
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: like he wants to. He knows Zela. He want a

1016
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, anybody wants him. I think it'll be a

1017
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: good fit. Well, let me tell you that you hit

1018
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: the nail on the head. He hasn't played in a while,

1019
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: but yeah, he hasn't played in a while, but he

1020
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: wants to play. Do you know how many guys have

1021
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: retired in the National Football League? He say that today? Honestly, Ramone,

1022
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is that he hasn't played, and

1023
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: there's a reason why he hasn't played, so it's a

1024
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: tough thing. I know a lot of people would love

1025
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: to have him see him back, but that's a that's

1026
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: a tough thing to come out when you're out of

1027
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: football for that long and then you come back. Um,

1028
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: it would be great to see him in a Giant

1029
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: uniform again, but I think his time has past and Ramone.

1030
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: I've said this multiple times Jeff and I we even

1031
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: talk about it earlier. I think the Giants feel good

1032
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: about the nucleus of receivers on the roster. I think

1033
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: they want to evaluate the younger guys. They want to

1034
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: see Cody Lattimer and some of these vets continue to

1035
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: progress and let the best man win within that competition.

1036
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: You also have to understand Victor Cruz comes in, there's

1037
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: a completely new offense. He may have had chemistry with

1038
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. He did not play in this offense. So

1039
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that all of a sudden things is

1040
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna be picked up very smoothly. But my thing is this,

1041
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be really expensive, right, so it gives

1042
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: him one more chance. Oh we do was the making

1043
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: a big show? So he didn't We didn't get another

1044
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: chance because oh, del, oh del do everything's o del

1045
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: now does not there? Now? Let that no pressure pass

1046
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: the board. You click the victor cruse is very cheap,

1047
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: and you give him men chance. You don't like him,

1048
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: then go and see Cursette. You could come to a curve.

1049
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: But I think that he should give one more chance.

1050
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, if you've seen his his video and Instagram,

1051
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: he should he looks good, he looks healthy, or give

1052
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: a chance. I don't see what's the problem giving him

1053
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: a chance. But what's he hearing nobody? Once again, I

1054
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you. I don't think he would be

1055
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: hurting anybody if they brought him in. But they also

1056
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: may not want to take reps away from some of

1057
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: the younger guys in practice, Jeff, who they want to

1058
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: expose to certain circumstances within the offense. You bring in

1059
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: a veteran, you get him on the field, now ramone,

1060
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're taking away opportunities from

1061
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: other guys. So you know that that's a big part

1062
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: of the conversation when you weigh the pros and cons

1063
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: of bringing in another wide receiver. And as I mentioned,

1064
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: they've got plenty of veterans already in camp. Well, I

1065
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: want to win. I don't want to give nobody seasons

1066
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: and we haven't done that. And I get that, but well,

1067
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: but but you I think you're focusing a little too

1068
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: much on O'Dell. And appreciate the phone call, Ramote, thanks

1069
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: so much for weighing in. You know, guys like Cody Lattimer,

1070
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: guys like Benny Fowler, Guys like Russell Shepherd. Russell Shepherd's

1071
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: been on a lot of winning teams throughout his career.

1072
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Lattimer and Faller from Denver. They have a connection

1073
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: to Tyke Tolbert. So you know, you're not talking about

1074
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: guys that you know just all of a sudden they're

1075
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: taking a chance on. And all of those players I

1076
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: mentioned we're in the system. Last year and filled in

1077
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: when Odell was sidelined, Russell Shepard had two touchdowns. He

1078
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: had one in the Bearers game where he caught from

1079
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: Beckham and then he was in the Redskins game. Fouler

1080
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: at a touchdown in the Redskins game Jeff and Latimer

1081
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: flashed a little bit when he finally got off. I

1082
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: R So, you know, I think of you're the Giants,

1083
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: why would you throw those guys to the waist side

1084
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: to take a flyer on a former Giant. It just

1085
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't add up. There's not a lot

1086
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: of benefit to that. And it's fans want him see

1087
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: him back and then get that time has to move on.

1088
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: You know. Well, and here's the other thing, and this

1089
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: is no shot against Victor Cruz, Jeff, when he came

1090
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: back from the leg injury. You know, Victor Cruz was

1091
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: not the Victor Cruz of old. Let's face it. Okay,

1092
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: so you're not getting Victor Cruz coming in and he's

1093
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: now going to provide the skill set that Odell Beckham

1094
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: left behind. It's just that's not gonna happen. If you

1095
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: told me, Jeff, Victor Cruz comes in, he gives you

1096
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: something that the current wide receiver corps does it that

1097
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: vertical threat or something to that ability, then I would listen.

1098
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: But that that to me is a pipe dream at

1099
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: this point. There's no question. Plus you know what the

1100
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: older yard that more injuries come up. I mean it's like,

1101
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: and you know what, the Giants don't need another wide

1102
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: receiver right now, Okay, they really don't. They They're they're

1103
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: happy with the people they have, they have good depth,

1104
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: they have good experience, and they have guys like you said,

1105
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: they've been on the team last year, that rand that

1106
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: had some good games in there. So I'm just gonna

1107
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: have to buy your time until take gets back. Pipe

1108
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: dream is an appropriate term, why because it sets up

1109
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: beautifully our next caller, speaking of pipe dreams, nobody throws

1110
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: out more pipe dreams than our very own Charlie in Portland, Man,

1111
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: what's happening to Charlie? Hello, Charles, how are we doing? Hey? Good? Hey? Look?

1112
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: The thing is is what when they say once a giant,

1113
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: always a giant, you know, hold on, It's like, no, no,

1114
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: let me say something. What I want to say is, look,

1115
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: it's Jeff Stiegel de side of that. You know, I

1116
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: think I can punt again, and I want to cry.

1117
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: Who should be the first team to bring him in

1118
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: and at least try him out and say, okay, let's

1119
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: see what you got. It should be the New York Giants.

1120
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: The same with Victor Cruz, the same with the Keen Knicks,

1121
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: same with will beat. Any ext giant who wants to

1122
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: play and are trying to get back into the league

1123
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: wants a giant always a giant. They should at least

1124
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: bring them in and work them out. I don't say

1125
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: they have to sign them, but they should bring them in,

1126
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: do their due diligence and see what they got. It's

1127
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: not that easy, Charlie. That easy that the Nats and

1128
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: that meaning over once a giant that has nothing to

1129
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: know that that that wants a giant always, John has

1130
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what you're talking about, it really

1131
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: does it. It's again a pipe dream. There you go,

1132
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: So Jeff, according to hold on, Charlie, not now, we're

1133
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna talk and you're gonna listen. Okay, this is how

1134
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: the show works. So Charlie's thought process, Jeff, just to

1135
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: get this straight, is that if there's a guy that

1136
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: played in the sixties for the Giants and all of

1137
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: a sudden that no, no, no no, no, I'm gonna take

1138
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: it to the extreme. Charlie, I am because part of

1139
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying is absolutely ridiculous. But we're used to it,

1140
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: so let's hash this out here. Okay. Once a giant,

1141
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: always a giant is just like what the Raiders actually

1142
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: were showcasing on Hard Knocks last night. If you had

1143
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to fit that in your very busy schedule.

1144
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: I know you were scouting will Beattie and all offensive line.

1145
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: But but on on hard knocks, on hard knocks, not

1146
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: on hard knocks. Part of the programming last night they

1147
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: have an alumni dinner where they invite all the former

1148
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: Raiders back, Mark Davis their owner, okay, and they had

1149
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: the phrase once a Raider, always a Raider. Now once

1150
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: a Raider, always a Raider. Does it mean that they're

1151
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: gonna bring Tim Brown and Jerry Rice back and they're

1152
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: gonna have them run routes to see if Derek car

1153
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: needs an additional wide receiver. So it's no different than

1154
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: what's going on here in Giants Land. No, but it's

1155
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: it's a lot different. I mean the plays, now tell

1156
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: me why it's a lot different. Yes, let me and

1157
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz and the Keen Knicks is gonna playing the

1158
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: XSL and if they're saying, look, I want to play

1159
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: in this league again, and I think I can to

1160
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: me the team that you would say, okay, do you

1161
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: think you guys can play? Then I'll work you out

1162
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: and see what you got. Look, Eli played with Knicks

1163
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: are in the off season. Why don't you ask Eli

1164
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: how a keen Knicks look. You know, Charlie, hold on,

1165
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: do you know if those conversations took place? How do

1166
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: you know those conversations didn't take You always say that

1167
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: last because they never take place. We find out. All

1168
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying is your your operating. Well, all I'm saying

1169
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: is you're operating under the premise that those conversations didn't happen.

1170
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: Or Eli may have not said in passing, hey so

1171
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: and so looks good, or hey so and so doesn't

1172
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: necessarily they didn't act on it, did they yet? Well,

1173
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: because do you bring him in, Charlie, do you really

1174
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: think that the scouting department for the Giants is not

1175
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: doing their due diligence and looking across the league in

1176
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: the waiver wire every day to determine if they can

1177
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: upgrade the roster. You really think that every NFL team

1178
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: doesn't do that? What they think is upgrading the roster?

1179
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: Who I think is up well, you know what different,

1180
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: But you know what, for the sake of the Giants

1181
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: franchise and the well being and the rest of our

1182
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: thank god, they don't listen to you and they actually

1183
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: have a different philosophy. So actually they're doing their due

1184
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: diligence in that regard. Okay, the reason I really called is, oh,

1185
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: we didn't get to the real reason. Why do we

1186
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: have such a lack of depth at of tackles? Now,

1187
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen. You got, Well, we

1188
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: know one guy that could solve that depth problem. Holoc

1189
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: hasn't been practicing. Big George has got a concussion. Well,

1190
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: hold on maholican Wheeler have been practicing recently. They've been

1191
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: banged up and they've been sidelined. They haven't been sidelined

1192
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: since the beginning of the preseason game. Are we going

1193
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: to keep Soldier and Reamer's in there and let them

1194
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: have a chance of getting injured? Charlie Adams and this

1195
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: guy slaves guard. He isn't even a tackle. Paul Adams

1196
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: got some work in practice the other day at left tackle.

1197
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Bunchee, who they brought in, is another option at

1198
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: guard slash tackle. So some of those guys. Nick Gates

1199
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: is probably gonna get work at guard. How Hunter spoke

1200
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: very highly of him, and right now he's listed as

1201
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: third on the depth chart. Yeah, they're gonna want to

1202
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: take a look at these guys. But Charlie, Charlie, are

1203
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: you are you busy? Are you busy? Tomorrow's out there?

1204
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: If you're gonna put Daniel Jones out there, and you're

1205
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, we have to give him the first

1206
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. So that means you gotta keep Solder in

1207
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: and you've got to keep Ramers in and and what's

1208
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: the chance of I'm getting injured? They shouldn't even be

1209
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: playing this first, uh preseason game. And then what I'm

1210
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: saying is there they should have brought in a couple

1211
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: of veteran tackle especially when three of them went down.

1212
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, now we're gonna have to play if one

1213
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: longer than they should be playing, and if they get

1214
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: and you know, every Jet preseason game something horrible happened,

1215
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: one giant goes down for the whole year, it happens

1216
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: almost every time we play it. Well, tell the person

1217
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: to put the voodoo doll down. Finally, I mean that's

1218
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: my response to, well, hold on, let me let me

1219
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: just backpedal here. And Jeff, I'm curious your perspective too,

1220
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: because I think we've heard enough of Charlie, so we

1221
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: need to bring the insight back to normal. When when

1222
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: Charlie throws out the concern about and I'm not saying

1223
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: it's an invalid point. I get his concern. If you're

1224
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna put Daniel Jones out there, you'd want it to

1225
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: be with some established offense. You want it. But I

1226
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: don't think that there is any crime. And if they

1227
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: do put some of the backups in with Daniel Jones, yeah,

1228
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: you don't want to maybe bring a guy in off

1229
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: the street who just came. But if they understand that

1230
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: this offensive lineman knows the offense and he's been rotated

1231
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: in with the second team, because Daniel Jones is beginning

1232
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: all his reps, by the way, with the second team,

1233
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that that is necessarily a precarious spot

1234
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: to put Daniel Jones in before. We don't have our

1235
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: second string tackles in there. Well, we don't know, we

1236
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: don't know, we we do not know at this point.

1237
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it just hasn't it's plain either. So we're gonna

1238
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: have the third or fourth steam guy Adams and Schlade

1239
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: who was a guard, and you're gonna throw them in there.

1240
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You should have had a couple of veterans

1241
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: in camp. It's it's so ant they got, they got

1242
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: dept in every other position, cornerback, running back, like tackle,

1243
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: now we never have it. They have it at guard tackle.

1244
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Now we don't need tackles. What is wrong with gentlemen?

1245
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't get it. And you're gonna see tomorrow night

1246
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about So that's all I got to say.

1247
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Good day from me, Charlie. If you can get in

1248
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: a car and head to MetLife Stadium, they'd be more

1249
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: than happy to suit you up, Charlie. And maybe they

1250
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: add a last minute roster addition and I'll put you

1251
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: out there at left tackle if you're that concerned. We'll

1252
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: just remember to left and right tackles are hard to

1253
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: come by. They're not you know, you're just very difficult, okay,

1254
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: and veteran ones especially, and veterans cost you money. Veterans

1255
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: cost you money. And I know that Charlie sitting there,

1256
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: he wants to call back, but you gotta have the

1257
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: depth and play it a bit. They're not as there's

1258
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: not that many of them around in my opinion, you

1259
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: just can't go out and you know, and find those

1260
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: types of guys and still stay under the salary captive.

1261
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: The minimum salary for some of these veteran guys are there.

1262
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a lot of money, so I and I understand

1263
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: they're in a pecurious position here, but their guys are

1264
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: are getting hurt. But I also feel that and get

1265
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: them and will tell you this, and Sherman will tell

1266
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 1: you this that the guys that we have here in camp,

1267
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: we believe are our best football players and they need

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Speaker 1: to step up and play when they're expected to play.

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Speaker 1: If not, they'll be out of here and then they'll

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Speaker 1: go find another guy. And I also find it hard

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Speaker 1: to believe, Jeff. They're watching these offensive lineman in practice

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Speaker 1: every day. If Daniel Jones is out there behind some

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Speaker 1: of the backups, it's because they have confidence that those

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Speaker 1: guys know their assignments and are gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. I think that they understand priority number

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Speaker 1: one and then some is to protect their franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the future. I don't think they would expose him

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Speaker 1: based on Charlie's concerns. Well, it will be an interesting

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Speaker 1: as because the Jets defense is pretty good and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what their depth position is like. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Williams will come in here with an elaborate

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Speaker 1: scheme and for as practice, for as preseason goes. But

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Speaker 1: you know he likes to blitz um. That's part of

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Speaker 1: just who he is. And they have that team that

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Speaker 1: that Jets defense being very aggressive. That's the type of

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Speaker 1: defenses that that Williams has put together in his career

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Speaker 1: is very aggressive, cocky, mean defenses. And they're gonna go

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Speaker 1: up against a good a good test tomorrow, so it'll

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Speaker 1: be good to see. And by the way, that's what

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Speaker 1: you want to see in these games. You want competition.

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Speaker 1: You said it, Lance. These guys are tired of hitting

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Speaker 1: the same guys every single day, okay, and so are

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Speaker 1: the coaches in the in the organization, tired of seeing

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Speaker 1: them practice against each other every day. They want some

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Speaker 1: new blood in there. They want to get some evaluational

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Speaker 1: tools to be able to go in and say and

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Speaker 1: build this roster. I'm telling you this roster is put together, Folks.

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Speaker 1: The other ten percents of special teams, guys and guys

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Speaker 1: that maybe not are aren't even here. They're looking at

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Speaker 1: other other guys around the leap. Like the one caller

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Speaker 1: had said, are they gonna bring in six guys this year?

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Speaker 1: You know what they might bring in four new tackles

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Speaker 1: Charlie who knows. I want to get to one or

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Speaker 1: two more tweets before we wrap up the program. At

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Speaker 1: Adam carl thirteen to the Giants pay Corey Coleman salary

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Speaker 1: or is that money freed up now since he's on

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Speaker 1: i R. Injured reserve players count against the cap. So

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Speaker 1: to answer your question, they do not all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden shed that salary and now can use it on

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Speaker 1: another player. That's more of a reason. Why is Jeff

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Speaker 1: you noted you have to think about, Okay, the remaining

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Speaker 1: cap space that you have, you're gonna need to use

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Speaker 1: it for all sixteen seventeen weeks remaining in the season.

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Speaker 1: That's why you don't guys go on a shopping spree

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Speaker 1: during the course of training camp and just bring in anybody,

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Speaker 1: because if you're not gonna wind up keeping them Jeff

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Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster, it defeats the purpose

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Speaker 1: when you could use that money to bring in guys.

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Speaker 1: God forbid, somebody suffers an injury down maybe one or

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Speaker 1: two other guys exactly. And at Oceanville O'Dell did play

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Speaker 1: in the Bears game. Lance he threw the touchdown to

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Speaker 1: Russell Shepherd. Yes, and then I said, Russell Shepherd also

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Speaker 1: caught the touchdown in the Redskins game, which Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: did not play. If memory serves to be correct, I

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Speaker 1: could bring up the schedule before we wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was in that game, Jeff. That

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Speaker 1: was the game where obviously they ran over the Washington Redskins,

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Speaker 1: and the Redskins had all the injuries. But let me

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Speaker 1: just factor in whether or not that was one of

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Speaker 1: the final four games. I think the schedule you may

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Speaker 1: be looking at, Jeff, is the two thousand nineteen schedule.

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Speaker 1: That's why I just want to pedal. Yeah, the Washington

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Speaker 1: game was week fourteen. Odell missed the last four, the

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Speaker 1: Redskins game, the Titans game, the Colts game, the Cowboys games,

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Speaker 1: so he was not in that game. That was the

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Speaker 1: game that Shepherd caught his second touchdown. Yes, he was

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Speaker 1: there the previous week for the Bears game. But my

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Speaker 1: bigger point was Shepherd when his number was called upon, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: he made plays. Foller and Cody Latimer to a lesser degree,

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Speaker 1: but those guys made plays, and I think the Giants

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Speaker 1: have confidence that if cold upon again, this season that

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Speaker 1: those guys are at least reliable options. Correct. So that

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Speaker 1: is going to wrap us up here on the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live. As always, it is

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Speaker 1: presented by Corps Light. We are going to be back

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Speaker 1: up and running tomorrow at one pm Eastern, will continue

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Speaker 1: set the stage for preseason game number one, and we

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Speaker 1: will also take your phone calls and Jeff and I

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Speaker 1: are gonna be on six sixty AM on Thursday starting

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Speaker 1: at six oh five pm Eastern with the pregame show,

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Speaker 1: so you can catch that as we get you set

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Speaker 1: for the first preseason game from Midlife Stadium. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to absolutely all right, finally football is here, folks.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow night you're winning six six o'clock, six o five.

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Speaker 1: But if you start tuning in at six, it's a

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Speaker 1: good Tom Coughlin start right here. You might on TBS

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Speaker 1: News before that, but you know what, then you got

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Speaker 1: the pregame coming up there you go for Jeff Eagles,

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Speaker 1: m lanespado He Join the rest of your Wednesday and

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Speaker 1: always stay locked to Giants dot Com. Have a good one.