WEBVTT - The Playbook- Another Shot at Love

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody to the most dramatic podcast ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Lauren Zima and Chris Harrison.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming to you from, as Chris always says, the home

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<v Speaker 2>office in Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm taking the.

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<v Speaker 2>Reins a little bit today for this playbook. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>on the playbook we get into something that's a little

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<v Speaker 2>more evergreen, just a good topic of discussion, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was inspired to spring something on you our daughter Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been watching Love Island with her friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just gott's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think Love Island has maybe finally figured out

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<v Speaker 2>its formula after a few like it was fame. It

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<v Speaker 2>started out in England, then CBS aired it for a

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<v Speaker 2>few years and it did not do well and it

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<v Speaker 2>was very expensive, and then they brought it to Peacock

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<v Speaker 2>and it still wasn't really doing well, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>brought on Ariano Mattox of vander Pump Rules to host,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe that combined with again, I guess this is

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe they've gotten their casting and producing finally figured out.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard it's a good season.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the good thing. For the streamers is

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<v Speaker 1>they could kick it off, NBC, put it down in

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<v Speaker 1>the minor leagues, put it on Peacock, figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's it's really found its footing, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Kudos to the Peacock and NBC for giving it time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if they're spending less when it was

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<v Speaker 2>on CBS. I remember even thinking, God, the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>money they're spending on like royalties for songs. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to spend money to make a show good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about the content.

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<v Speaker 1>And I truly believe that it was like the people

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<v Speaker 1>who had an idea for a business and they went

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<v Speaker 1>and bought the most expensive office space in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got into the product and they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a desk to put in it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the worst is they say, by the way, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just do a quick side track. But that comment

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<v Speaker 2>I just made, I don't think you heard me say

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<v Speaker 2>it, and I want no if you agree with it. I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a marriage, like you got married and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not working out, but I got to put a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years in.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think put a couple of years in.

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<v Speaker 2>Or cut and run if you're feeling wrong about a

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<v Speaker 2>marriage right now, No, I think I mean, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>not the playbook topic. Yeah, and by the way, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not and this hopefully this isn't personal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, this isn't about to happen. But if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>cut and ron, let's finish the podcast. But I believe yes,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have kind of you are contractually obligated to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see this through and actually to put an

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<v Speaker 1>effort into Whereas I think if you're just dating it's casual,

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<v Speaker 1>or even if you've been dating a little bit, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's easier to break up. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to walk away. There's not as much emotional, financial,

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<v Speaker 1>and your life. You haven't moved in together, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I say to people, don't get married

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<v Speaker 2>too fast. People have asked me, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>is the most important indicator of whether you should marry someone?

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<v Speaker 2>And I always save time time, give it time, go

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<v Speaker 2>through some stuff to at least four seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I've got to go through all the seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of life together.

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<v Speaker 2>So Taylor and her friends have been watching Love Island

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<v Speaker 2>and that made me, you know, I think, yeah, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>something that's like I don't know, you can reinvigorate things.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are, you know, working on a new dating show,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to ask you, with this new dating

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<v Speaker 2>show that we're working on, if you had to cast

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<v Speaker 2>our lead or even wanted to cast our lead from

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<v Speaker 2>people from your past.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, if I was going to dip back into the bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>Word, back into the bachelor world, who would you cast

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<v Speaker 2>as a lead?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Well, and are we are we starting with guys?

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<v Speaker 1>So are we gonna start with bachelor's only?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's let's go into the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I was just starting bachelor.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, look, I don't I'm well, okay, you go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, are there parameters to this because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hesitant to like, I don't want you to tell me, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Andrew Firestone, who you love, but who's been

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<v Speaker 2>married for fifteen years and has three kings.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, if I get a little bit feasible, if I

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<v Speaker 1>had my way, I would just like I would grab

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<v Speaker 1>all my boys. I'd grab Bob and Ben and whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would just do it all. Yeah, but with

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<v Speaker 1>all three of I would grab like three or four guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd do it all at once. We could all just

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<v Speaker 1>hang out and.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's wait, like five leads at once.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have five leads at once, probably three, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have a foursome and we would probably shoot the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing at Pebble Beach. Like I would be a

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<v Speaker 1>really selfish season. Maybe travel around in Europe a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>go to some soccer games. It would be uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the women would enjoy this season at all. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I shouldn't be working on a TV show, But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if I couldn't use my ogs the guys that you

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<v Speaker 1>know are married with kids, because it seems, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be a complete.

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<v Speaker 3>Homewaker, know that they were good TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest. I had talked to Jason Tartic. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Jason Tartick would have been a very good U

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<v Speaker 1>lead for a show because I wanted him to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lead on The Bachelor. I wanted him to be

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<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor years ago, and I thought he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a good lead coming off his season and then

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<v Speaker 1>he got together with Caitlin and then after the breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he would be good I think he's happy

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<v Speaker 1>in a loving relationship now, but I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a good one. Who am I? Here's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. This might be controversial, and maybe I'm a masochist,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would do another season with one Pablo.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. I'm curious, could we redeem? Has he grown?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, has he evolved? I don't know. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked to one Pablo, and I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago that was that the season was on. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was so malign and so, you know, viciously attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you like it, and I like a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I like shows that make that push that envelope,

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<v Speaker 1>make you think, could he turn the tide and win

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<v Speaker 1>everybody over? And give him an honest chance to do so?

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<v Speaker 2>This I'm googling right now. I think he's single. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like he was married from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he's forty three right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm just curious. I don't know what he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. Don't know, but another one, and this would

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<v Speaker 1>also be a redemption story. And he is one of

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<v Speaker 1>our neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Womack, Oh Brad Wollmack. He's single right now, and man,

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<v Speaker 2>do I want that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>To find life.

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<v Speaker 1>I want Brad to find love because such a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the nicest guy in the world. To be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a different version of the Wan Pablo season, because

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<v Speaker 1>Brad is such a sweet guy and he's just been

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<v Speaker 1>unlucky in love, and he has this great life. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing kind of this side business. Now he's got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got his money, he's got his life. He's mature,

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<v Speaker 1>he's built like, I mean, a Donnist.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Walmack is, he's his next chapter might be a

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<v Speaker 2>workout guru.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he is. He's involved with a gym here in Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of one of his things, the uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that he would be a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>season two to dive back in his life and see

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<v Speaker 1>where he's at and could we reverse history, could we

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<v Speaker 1>change that and help him find love eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing about both those guys which I think

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<v Speaker 2>could still make them work. I say that, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing with Juan Pablo, and I say this love

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<v Speaker 2>for Brad.

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<v Speaker 3>They both do still have I think some things to

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<v Speaker 3>work through.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously because they're both single, so there's still

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<v Speaker 2>some work to be done there. Like you said, you

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<v Speaker 2>like a challenge, and I do think one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was always good about the show is, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quoting you, it makes you self reflect.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes even if there's drama, and even though you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Produced, you do do a lot of self reflection and

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<v Speaker 2>if you're open to it, and if you do it right,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some growth. And so there's opportunity there with both

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<v Speaker 2>of them, and forty three and Brad is fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's these guys, it's settled down. Time, find somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>find a life, partner, time.

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<v Speaker 1>And look again being selfish. If I just want ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>do a show with Brian Absola, Oh fresh off divorce? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that time.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't even thought about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me that. Tell me that show is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get great ratings.

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<v Speaker 4>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes this is when I this is when I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that you your reality, you have a reality to be producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind. The mind starts telling here, you're just my you're.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband, not just my or my husband. But then

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I remember hell on a TV produced.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mind, I'm like, what would get the headlines and

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<v Speaker 1>what would bring that would do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, that would be a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let me ask you a question about the

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<v Speaker 2>Jason of it all. Huh, because I remember you saying

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted him to be the Bachelor and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you had kind of before he was with the woman

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<v Speaker 2>he's with now we had you'd had a few conversations

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<v Speaker 2>with him like, hey, you know, if we start doing

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<v Speaker 2>a new show, is this something you'd be open to?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about Jason that would make him a

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<v Speaker 2>good lead? And are the same things that make Jason

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<v Speaker 2>a good lead the same things that make everybody a

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<v Speaker 2>good lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the things I think that makes anyone

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<v Speaker 1>a good lead is that you have your your beloved.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. You don't have to be beloved. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a Wan Pablo even, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be apathetic. I want you to care

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<v Speaker 1>about who the lead is and who the person is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you got to have that emotional tie, good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad. And so you know, Jason, we watched him evolve,

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<v Speaker 1>We watched his hairstyles evolve from you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>that guy from Buffalo to a man of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's got his books and he's got social media,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's so public now, and you know, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>shaving all parts of his body and he's working out

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<v Speaker 1>nine times a day and he is He's perfect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I love him like a brother. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we've watched him evolve, is the point, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has become this beloved figure in our lives that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people can relate to. And and can you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you can trust Jason too? I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>very trustworthy and that's the financial side of him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>very smart, articulate. So I just think he has that

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<v Speaker 1>it factor that would really pop on reality TV. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd be very good.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's different person a person. Is there any

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<v Speaker 2>are there key things that you have to have your

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<v Speaker 2>lead have, like are there non negotiables that have to

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<v Speaker 2>be within a lead for them to work?

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<v Speaker 1>An opinion like I need you to care they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>milk Toast comes to mind. You just can't have milk

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<v Speaker 1>Toast as your lead where people are like, okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if I watch Monday Night or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I need you to care what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to their story, either good or bad. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be so mad at me or so mad

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<v Speaker 1>at the show. I can't believe you put this person

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<v Speaker 1>on the air and your hate watching. That's fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching and you have an opinion, you'll go on

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<v Speaker 1>social media and you'll talk about it. And conversely, if

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<v Speaker 1>you love somebody, you're going to go on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to talk about it. But when you just

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody who you're apathetic about and you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about their story, honestly, it's probably what's happening right

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<v Speaker 1>now with the Golden Bachelorette with the guys and her

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know who the Bachelorette is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>watch the show, but clearly apathy has set in with

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<v Speaker 1>that show and people don't care about the story. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the death nail of a reality TV show. If

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<v Speaker 1>they don't care about the franchise, if they don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about the lead, if they don't care about the somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. And I'm sure they are desperately trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fix this and editing right now, but you only

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<v Speaker 1>have so much. You either have it in the can

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<v Speaker 1>from filming or you don't. And my guess if they

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<v Speaker 1>had something to fire, if they had that bullet, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have fired it by now because they're under week

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<v Speaker 1>three or four or something and it just isn't happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is that's and by the way, as a producer,

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks. It's scary when you're into a season and

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<v Speaker 1>you just see apathy and you see people not caring

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<v Speaker 1>about that season and you may have really fallen in

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<v Speaker 1>love with that season and felt we got something here,

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<v Speaker 1>we really have it, and you just aren't seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>delivered in the ratings. It sucks because it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>change the tide and you're just going down with the

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<v Speaker 1>ship and you just have to watch it unfold. For

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<v Speaker 1>it's like death by a thousand pace cuts. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>watching it, Yeah, and you can't stop the train. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just going off the tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me throw out a few other people because I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just remind you of who I think is still are

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<v Speaker 2>still single and you can tell me if you bring

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<v Speaker 2>them back on.

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<v Speaker 3>Going all the way back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Alex Michelle, I don't know where he is

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<v Speaker 1>or if he's let's go back to number one, let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring him back, like bring him you know, for I

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<v Speaker 1>ran into somebody. It was so random. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on a prior podcast that they had

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<v Speaker 1>seen him. But I do think he is a family

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<v Speaker 1>man now is married with kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well then he's not single. Okay, so Chris Soles.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Soles, that's a oh, he'd be a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, suh. Still single, living in Iowa, still a farmer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Chris Soles has some work to do on himself,

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<v Speaker 2>as he does. I say this with love.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, our producer Kendall just chimed in because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a neighbor of ours. Glenn Powell.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, well not a former bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Not bachelor, but Glenn Powell. Glenn, he would be the ultimate.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did used to think you, Kendle, because I did

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<v Speaker 1>used to get that a lot of like I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>on the Red Carpet and you know, I'd run into

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<v Speaker 1>someone like you from entertainment tonight and said, if you

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<v Speaker 1>could have anybody as the batter, who would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say somebody like Glenn pal you know, charismatic, gorgeous, famous, rich,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, single. I think he's single. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>they and we do an all Texas version that'd be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that someone can be good on reality

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<v Speaker 2>TV if they're so industry aware?

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<v Speaker 1>So it'd be hard. Yeah, it'd be hard because very

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<v Speaker 1>because crossing over you have to let go. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about doing famous people all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we had athletes reach out to us all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL football players, which, like, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That works a little bit better because they're not a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better film and TV awares.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say it's Tom Brady. We know, sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, but someone of his ilk. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be Tom Brady. But I'm just saying, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get so famous and you're so like, you could

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<v Speaker 1>use a third tier like former somebody who didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>make it in the league they kind of did. You

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<v Speaker 1>can use that. But if someone's so famous, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard unless they are so sincere about finding love, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think they just like the idea of it and

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<v Speaker 1>the actual I'm going to go date twenty five people

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<v Speaker 1>from all across the country that you're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>put in front of me, it's a very difficult thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, there are still a few other bachelors who I

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<v Speaker 2>think might be single, like a Jake Pavelka or a

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Flannek. But I'm going to tell you who I

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<v Speaker 2>would want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Webber.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, how did I miss that? Pilot Pete?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Peter is genius.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, we're still really good friends with Peter. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>he's single right now. To me, he's a few years

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<v Speaker 2>into sort of his maturity. Now. He got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of flak on the show for a sort of being

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<v Speaker 2>wishy wash you're letting his mom make his decisions. But

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<v Speaker 2>he is more mature, and he, to me, always had

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<v Speaker 2>what some of the golden years of the show had,

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<v Speaker 2>which was he actually was someone who you'd maybe see

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<v Speaker 2>on TV and aspire to date. He was a pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>He has this great successful job. You know, he has

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<v Speaker 2>a job. No handsome guy. So I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>see Peter Webber again.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Mike drop, Yeah, that's it. That's the home run.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's move on to the bachelorettes now, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to get into that. Anybody from the past

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<v Speaker 2>world who you'd bring back. Let me pull up the list,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna start.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the call to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem with the batcherettes. They were good and

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<v Speaker 1>most of them were successful. You have a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>success with bacherettes than we had bachelor's, so there's not

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<v Speaker 1>as many. You know, you look at some of your favorites,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Jill, you have one.

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<v Speaker 3>Major Okay, well, first, does anybody pop to mind to you?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm trying to even think of a single.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you a major one. Who's I think single?

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<v Speaker 2>Although she might be dating Zach Caitlyn Burst.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Caitlin. Yeah, I don't know if she's single or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right, she would be fantastic and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>back to back seasons to Jason Tartick and then Katelyn Briste.

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<v Speaker 3>God again your reality TV mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, Caitlyn would be I would definitely have her

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<v Speaker 1>back as the bacherette. She would be fantastic TV, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>you care, you have, you have an opinion about Caitlyn,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you love her, whether you don't like her. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to see what she's going to do. She's compelling. Yeah, great,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's more important for the audience to

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<v Speaker 2>have an opinion about the lead, or for the lead

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to have opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, you need to have an opinion about the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically typically that's because your lead does have opinions, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could be you know, look at someone like Emily Maynard,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most beloved bacherette we ever had. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>opinionated per se. She was a very strong woman, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was just so beloved for being a mom and

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<v Speaker 1>in the heartland, and so it wasn't like she was controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just so loved. Caitlin definitely would have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to say, though. She would be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, single bachelorettes. Is Deanna she is?

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. I was just talking to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Stagliano brothers via text, speaking of keeping in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with my community. We were talking about Deanna. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she got divorced unfortunately from her husband. Uh one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Stagliano brothers, Stephen, And yeah she's single. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be good. When i'd go back into that. God,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her season two where she settled down with Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>the snowboarder. I wonder what happened to him. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being on Veil Mountain and Deanna was like on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of Jesse and like flying down the mountain. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the most scary, dangerous thing I've ever seen. But

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<v Speaker 1>that how did how did she ever end up on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a snowboarder? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>What about Taysha?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is she single? I have no idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, wait, she was dating the guy from a

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<v Speaker 3>Bravo show.

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<v Speaker 1>Never I think we can still count her. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we still cooun Tasha. Yeah, because that's not serious enough

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't talk about it. We're not breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>a family here. I would definitely make an offer to Tasha.

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<v Speaker 1>She's I loved her. She's one of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 1>that was on the show. Very kind, beautiful obviously and

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<v Speaker 1>definitely attracted the attention you want from an audience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be good.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're and the camera loved her. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right that. As I'm scrolling through this list.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of them are.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, more than the Bachelor's anyway. Some of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't get married on the show. But you

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<v Speaker 1>look like Hannah Brown who's found love, and Claire and

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dorfman who's having a baby, and so like some

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<v Speaker 1>of these women have gone on to fine love off

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anyone who's single who maybe wasn't a lead

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<v Speaker 2>but from the franchise who pops to mind? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking we were recent with at Elon's producer

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<v Speaker 2>along Gale's wedding was JP Rosenba.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, and well Ashley's found love but seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be dating. But JP seems to be in a great

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<v Speaker 1>spot to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>What is a great spot to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of turmoil, a little bit eco, a

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<v Speaker 1>little emotional, little chaos in your life, yet probably ready

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<v Speaker 1>to move On's that's the sweet thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Not quite fixed, but open emotional so you can see

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<v Speaker 4>him continue the transformation. Yeah, you're right, I forgot about

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<v Speaker 4>JPI love by the way, just a good guy, like

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<v Speaker 4>such a good game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he's a sweet man. He was just you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I give him so much credit.

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<v Speaker 2>He came to the wedding single, didn't bring a date,

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<v Speaker 2>but he just rolled with everybody and he like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he is such a simple read. Honestly, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody just looks out for the people around them, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't know them that well, like by that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>met JP and he's like, I think you were in

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom or something.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, Elsie, can I get you drink? You need anything? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the kind of person who just a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>A gentleman or if I mean a lady should do

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<v Speaker 2>that as well, sort of look around for the people

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<v Speaker 2>around them. But that's a quick read on a person

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<v Speaker 2>thoughtful of those around them.

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<v Speaker 1>Also has one of those rare things a job, he

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<v Speaker 1>has a career and a family man, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>to how to let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Go crazy with what we're looking for in a lead,

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<v Speaker 2>gainfully employed, pretty good person, emotional open, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's bring back to the golden Yeah, you're talking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone just popped into mind for me, Tyler Cameron of

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<v Speaker 2>Hannah Brown season Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if Tyler's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't talked to him, want to either.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's like living a big life on social

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<v Speaker 2>media and bopping around. I don't know if he's in

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<v Speaker 2>a settled down period.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he would be good, and that he's such a snack.

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<v Speaker 1>Women would love to see him, you know, he would

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<v Speaker 1>be the shirtless season. You know, it would be like

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Low where he's just constantly in a shower and

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<v Speaker 1>slow motion. It would be that if he would actually,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my thing with Tyler and I like him, if

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<v Speaker 1>he would honestly do it sincerely, if he was ready,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was ready, and if he told me, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time, I've jacked around long enough, I actually want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. I will obey by the actual rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to, you know, create chaos, as he

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<v Speaker 1>tends to do, because he kind of just does things

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<v Speaker 1>on his own terms.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I said in an interview not too long ago that

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<v Speaker 2>if he ever he'd want to host a reality dang show,

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<v Speaker 2>not be on it, which speaks to where he's at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is fine, And you know that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point is, like you would have to have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with him, are you ready? And he would have to

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<v Speaker 1>really throw himself at the mercy of the court and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I give myself to you guys, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. I will be sincere, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be a spectacular show. But until then

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be and it would end in a

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<v Speaker 1>total disaster, which could also be good TV.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a couple of women who come to mind

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm not. I'll be honest, I'm not quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in relationships. I know that they're not married,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll name them. Kelly Flanagan of Peter's season.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I don't know what she's up to.

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<v Speaker 3>Smart, beautiful, opinionated.

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed at the time because she so clearly was

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of wise to the reality TV game of

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<v Speaker 2>it more than other people. But I think if she

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<v Speaker 2>same as read as with Tyler, if she really was

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely trying to do it, she'd be amazing. Cassie Randolph

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<v Speaker 2>of Colton season, she was just oh yeah, beautiful and

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<v Speaker 2>easy to love, so loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she's in a relationship, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think she is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she might be in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you one as we wrap this up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity bachelorette. You know, we picked a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity bachelors, like a pal or an athlete like Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>who is single, who would be like the ultimate bachelorette

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Who is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Sydney Sweeney, No.

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<v Speaker 2>She's dating, she's with someone, she's in a pretty she

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<v Speaker 2>actually may be secretly married.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some headlines about that ultimate bachelorette.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is that now? Like in this day and age?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Kristin Cavaleri? Oh, now that she's broken up

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<v Speaker 1>from her chear Justice? Yeah? Oh thirty seven perfect age.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she'd be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing as Tyler Cameron though, who she had famous?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she ready?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's ready to dive into another marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do think she.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be great TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Food for thought? Ok, food, Hey have that interesting? What

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<v Speaker 1>about I mean, if we're going big Kendall Jenner, Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I look, we threw Tom Brady on the mount rushmore less.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, if I'm doing a red carpet interview

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<v Speaker 1>or someone goes, who would you you know, who would

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<v Speaker 1>be your ultimate bachlerett, I'm like, Okay, who's the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>kJ By the way, I would love just because I

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<v Speaker 1>would have Chris on and she would really take over

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<v Speaker 1>on the Shay's host and I would let her host

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<v Speaker 1>the show for her daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was the gig Zendaya, but she's with

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<v Speaker 2>it in a very adorable relationship with Tom Holland.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're really going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mount Rushmore and you can say anyone, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know it kind of part of me also wants

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<v Speaker 2>to go more interesting than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's why I think Christian Cavalieri is not only

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<v Speaker 1>aspiring to get but interesting TV like she would be

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<v Speaker 1>good because her love life has been such a roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean interesting, like like quirky and unexpected. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking, you're Mount Rushmore is like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some people who are like on the show Bridgerton who

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<v Speaker 2>I think would be good, Nikola who was just on

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<v Speaker 2>the lead. She's like, loves reality TV and I think

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<v Speaker 2>she could be fun to watch. Okay, well we've really

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<v Speaker 2>dove deep. Thank you for playing this little game with me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll see. We'll see as we continue to work

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<v Speaker 2>on some new TV for you guys. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have thoughts, let us know who you'd want

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<v Speaker 2>to see cast as a new lead.

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<v Speaker 1>We are interested and we will do this again next

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<v Speaker 1>because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks

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