Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the most dramatic podcast ever.
Speaker 3: Lauren Zima and Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
Speaker 2: Coming to you from, as Chris always says, the home
Speaker 2: office in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3: And I'm taking the.
Speaker 2: Reins a little bit today for this playbook. You know,
Speaker 2: on the playbook we get into something that's a little
Speaker 2: more evergreen, just a good topic of discussion, and I
Speaker 2: was inspired to spring something on you our daughter Taylor.
Speaker 3: She's been watching Love Island with her friends.
Speaker 1: And it just gott's great.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think Love Island has maybe finally figured out
Speaker 2: its formula after a few like it was fame. It
Speaker 2: started out in England, then CBS aired it for a
Speaker 2: few years and it did not do well and it
Speaker 2: was very expensive, and then they brought it to Peacock
Speaker 2: and it still wasn't really doing well, and then they
Speaker 2: brought on Ariano Mattox of vander Pump Rules to host,
Speaker 2: and maybe that combined with again, I guess this is
Speaker 2: just maybe they've gotten their casting and producing finally figured out.
Speaker 3: I've heard it's a good season.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the good thing. For the streamers is
Speaker 1: they could kick it off, NBC, put it down in
Speaker 1: the minor leagues, put it on Peacock, figure it out,
Speaker 1: and now it's it's really found its footing, so good.
Speaker 1: Kudos to the Peacock and NBC for giving it time.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if they're spending less when it was
Speaker 2: on CBS. I remember even thinking, God, the amount of
Speaker 2: money they're spending on like royalties for songs. It's like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to spend money to make a show good.
Speaker 2: It's all about the content.
Speaker 1: And I truly believe that it was like the people
Speaker 1: who had an idea for a business and they went
Speaker 1: and bought the most expensive office space in the city,
Speaker 1: and they got into the product and they didn't even
Speaker 1: have a desk to put in it yet.
Speaker 2: Before the worst is they say, by the way, let
Speaker 2: me just do a quick side track. But that comment
Speaker 2: I just made, I don't think you heard me say
Speaker 2: it, and I want no if you agree with it. I said, oh,
Speaker 2: it's like a marriage, like you got married and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's not working out, but I got to put a
Speaker 2: couple of years in.
Speaker 3: Do you think put a couple of years in.
Speaker 2: Or cut and run if you're feeling wrong about a
Speaker 2: marriage right now, No, I think I mean, and this is
Speaker 2: not the playbook topic. Yeah, and by the way, this
Speaker 2: is not and this hopefully this isn't personal.
Speaker 3: It's not about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, this isn't about to happen. But if you do,
Speaker 1: cut and ron, let's finish the podcast. But I believe yes,
Speaker 1: when you have kind of you are contractually obligated to
Speaker 1: kind of see this through and actually to put an
Speaker 1: effort into Whereas I think if you're just dating it's casual,
Speaker 1: or even if you've been dating a little bit, you're like,
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to break up. I think it's
Speaker 1: easier to walk away. There's not as much emotional, financial,
Speaker 1: and your life. You haven't moved in together, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And that's why I say to people, don't get married
Speaker 2: too fast. People have asked me, what do you think
Speaker 2: is the most important indicator of whether you should marry someone?
Speaker 2: And I always save time time, give it time, go
Speaker 2: through some stuff to at least four seasons.
Speaker 1: At least I've got to go through all the seasons
Speaker 1: of life together.
Speaker 2: So Taylor and her friends have been watching Love Island
Speaker 2: and that made me, you know, I think, yeah, like, okay,
Speaker 2: something that's like I don't know, you can reinvigorate things.
Speaker 2: And we are, you know, working on a new dating show,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to ask you, with this new dating
Speaker 2: show that we're working on, if you had to cast
Speaker 2: our lead or even wanted to cast our lead from
Speaker 2: people from your past.
Speaker 1: Oh, if I was going to dip back into the bachelor.
Speaker 2: Word, back into the bachelor world, who would you cast
Speaker 2: as a lead?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, and are we are we starting with guys?
Speaker 1: So are we gonna start with bachelor's only?
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's go into the guys.
Speaker 1: So if I was just starting bachelor.
Speaker 3: Now, look, I don't I'm well, okay, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, No, are there parameters to this because.
Speaker 2: I'm hesitant to like, I don't want you to tell me, like,
Speaker 2: you know Andrew Firestone, who you love, but who's been
Speaker 2: married for fifteen years and has three kings.
Speaker 1: Look, if I get a little bit feasible, if I
Speaker 1: had my way, I would just like I would grab
Speaker 1: all my boys. I'd grab Bob and Ben and whatever,
Speaker 1: and I would just do it all. Yeah, but with
Speaker 1: all three of I would grab like three or four guys.
Speaker 1: We'd do it all at once. We could all just
Speaker 1: hang out and.
Speaker 3: Well that's wait, like five leads at once.
Speaker 1: I would have five leads at once, probably three, so
Speaker 1: we'd have a foursome and we would probably shoot the
Speaker 1: whole thing at Pebble Beach. Like I would be a
Speaker 1: really selfish season. Maybe travel around in Europe a little bit,
Speaker 1: go to some soccer games. It would be uh. I
Speaker 1: don't think the women would enjoy this season at all. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be working on a TV show, But okay,
Speaker 1: if I couldn't use my ogs the guys that you
Speaker 1: know are married with kids, because it seems, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a complete.
Speaker 3: Homewaker, know that they were good TV.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I had talked to Jason Tartic. I
Speaker 1: thought Jason Tartick would have been a very good U
Speaker 1: lead for a show because I wanted him to be
Speaker 1: a lead on The Bachelor. I wanted him to be
Speaker 1: The Bachelor years ago, and I thought he would have
Speaker 1: been a good lead coming off his season and then
Speaker 1: he got together with Caitlin and then after the breakup,
Speaker 1: I thought he would be good I think he's happy
Speaker 1: in a loving relationship now, but I think he would
Speaker 1: have been a good one. Who am I? Here's that's
Speaker 1: the thing. This might be controversial, and maybe I'm a masochist,
Speaker 1: but I would do another season with one Pablo.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious, could we redeem? Has he grown?
Speaker 1: You know, has he evolved? I don't know. I haven't
Speaker 1: talked to one Pablo, and I don't know how many
Speaker 1: years ago that was that the season was on. But
Speaker 1: he was so malign and so, you know, viciously attacked.
Speaker 1: You know, you like it, and I like a challenge.
Speaker 1: I think I like shows that make that push that envelope,
Speaker 1: make you think, could he turn the tide and win
Speaker 1: everybody over? And give him an honest chance to do so?
Speaker 2: This I'm googling right now. I think he's single. It
Speaker 2: looks like he was married from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's forty three right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm just curious. I don't know what he
Speaker 1: looks like. Don't know, but another one, and this would
Speaker 1: also be a redemption story. And he is one of
Speaker 1: our neighbors.
Speaker 2: Brad Womack, Oh Brad Wollmack. He's single right now, and man,
Speaker 2: do I want that guy.
Speaker 3: To find life.
Speaker 1: I want Brad to find love because such a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy in the world. To be kind
Speaker 1: of a different version of the Wan Pablo season, because
Speaker 1: Brad is such a sweet guy and he's just been
Speaker 1: unlucky in love, and he has this great life. He's
Speaker 1: doing kind of this side business. Now he's got you know,
Speaker 1: he's got his money, he's got his life. He's mature,
Speaker 1: he's built like, I mean, a Donnist.
Speaker 2: Brad Walmack is, he's his next chapter might be a
Speaker 2: workout guru.
Speaker 1: Well he is. He's involved with a gym here in Austin.
Speaker 1: That's kind of one of his things, the uh. And
Speaker 1: so I think that he would be a very interesting
Speaker 1: season two to dive back in his life and see
Speaker 1: where he's at and could we reverse history, could we
Speaker 1: change that and help him find love eventually.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about both those guys which I think
Speaker 2: could still make them work. I say that, I mean
Speaker 2: I'm guessing with Juan Pablo, and I say this love
Speaker 2: for Brad.
Speaker 3: They both do still have I think some things to
Speaker 3: work through.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously because they're both single, so there's still
Speaker 2: some work to be done there. Like you said, you
Speaker 2: like a challenge, and I do think one thing that
Speaker 2: was always good about the show is, as you said,
Speaker 2: I'm quoting you, it makes you self reflect.
Speaker 3: It makes even if there's drama, and even though you're getting.
Speaker 2: Produced, you do do a lot of self reflection and
Speaker 2: if you're open to it, and if you do it right,
Speaker 2: maybe some growth. And so there's opportunity there with both
Speaker 2: of them, and forty three and Brad is fifty one.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's these guys, it's settled down. Time, find somebody,
Speaker 2: find a life, partner, time.
Speaker 1: And look again being selfish. If I just want ratings,
Speaker 1: do a show with Brian Absola, Oh fresh off divorce? Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean that time.
Speaker 3: I hadn't even thought about it.
Speaker 1: Tell me that. Tell me that show is not going
Speaker 1: to get great ratings.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 2: Sometimes this is when I this is when I remember
Speaker 2: that you your reality, you have a reality to be producer.
Speaker 1: Mind. The mind starts telling here, you're just my you're.
Speaker 3: My husband, not just my or my husband. But then
Speaker 3: sometimes I remember hell on a TV produced.
Speaker 1: Her mind, I'm like, what would get the headlines and
Speaker 1: what would bring that would do it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Wow, that would be a show.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you a question about the
Speaker 2: Jason of it all. Huh, because I remember you saying
Speaker 2: you wanted him to be the Bachelor and then yeah,
Speaker 2: you had kind of before he was with the woman
Speaker 2: he's with now we had you'd had a few conversations
Speaker 2: with him like, hey, you know, if we start doing
Speaker 2: a new show, is this something you'd be open to?
Speaker 2: What is it about Jason that would make him a
Speaker 2: good lead? And are the same things that make Jason
Speaker 2: a good lead the same things that make everybody a
Speaker 2: good lead.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things I think that makes anyone
Speaker 1: a good lead is that you have your your beloved.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You don't have to be beloved. It's
Speaker 1: you know, like a Wan Pablo even, I just don't
Speaker 1: want you to be apathetic. I want you to care
Speaker 1: about who the lead is and who the person is.
Speaker 1: You know, you got to have that emotional tie, good
Speaker 1: or bad. And so you know, Jason, we watched him evolve,
Speaker 1: We watched his hairstyles evolve from you know, kind of
Speaker 1: that guy from Buffalo to a man of the world.
Speaker 1: Now he's got his books and he's got social media,
Speaker 1: and he's so public now, and you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: shaving all parts of his body and he's working out
Speaker 1: nine times a day and he is He's perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I know I love him like a brother. And
Speaker 1: so we've watched him evolve, is the point, and he
Speaker 1: has become this beloved figure in our lives that a
Speaker 1: lot of people can relate to. And and can you
Speaker 1: feel like you can trust Jason too? I think he's
Speaker 1: very trustworthy and that's the financial side of him. He's
Speaker 1: very smart, articulate. So I just think he has that
Speaker 1: it factor that would really pop on reality TV. I
Speaker 1: think he'd be very good.
Speaker 2: And so it's different person a person. Is there any
Speaker 2: are there key things that you have to have your
Speaker 2: lead have, like are there non negotiables that have to
Speaker 2: be within a lead for them to work?
Speaker 1: An opinion like I need you to care they you know,
Speaker 1: milk Toast comes to mind. You just can't have milk
Speaker 1: Toast as your lead where people are like, okay, like
Speaker 1: I don't care if I watch Monday Night or not.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I need you to care what
Speaker 1: happens to their story, either good or bad. You know,
Speaker 1: you can be so mad at me or so mad
Speaker 1: at the show. I can't believe you put this person
Speaker 1: on the air and your hate watching. That's fine, but
Speaker 1: you're watching and you have an opinion, you'll go on
Speaker 1: social media and you'll talk about it. And conversely, if
Speaker 1: you love somebody, you're going to go on social media,
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about it. But when you just
Speaker 1: have somebody who you're apathetic about and you just don't
Speaker 1: care about their story, honestly, it's probably what's happening right
Speaker 1: now with the Golden Bachelorette with the guys and her
Speaker 1: and I don't know who the Bachelorette is. I don't
Speaker 1: watch the show, but clearly apathy has set in with
Speaker 1: that show and people don't care about the story. And
Speaker 1: that's the death nail of a reality TV show. If
Speaker 1: they don't care about the franchise, if they don't care
Speaker 1: about the lead, if they don't care about the somebody
Speaker 1: on the show. And I'm sure they are desperately trying
Speaker 1: to fix this and editing right now, but you only
Speaker 1: have so much. You either have it in the can
Speaker 1: from filming or you don't. And my guess if they
Speaker 1: had something to fire, if they had that bullet, they
Speaker 1: would have fired it by now because they're under week
Speaker 1: three or four or something and it just isn't happening.
Speaker 1: So that is that's and by the way, as a producer,
Speaker 1: it sucks. It's scary when you're into a season and
Speaker 1: you just see apathy and you see people not caring
Speaker 1: about that season and you may have really fallen in
Speaker 1: love with that season and felt we got something here,
Speaker 1: we really have it, and you just aren't seeing it
Speaker 1: delivered in the ratings. It sucks because it's hard to
Speaker 1: change the tide and you're just going down with the
Speaker 1: ship and you just have to watch it unfold. For
Speaker 1: it's like death by a thousand pace cuts. You're just
Speaker 1: watching it, Yeah, and you can't stop the train. It's
Speaker 1: just going off the tracks.
Speaker 2: Let me throw out a few other people because I'll
Speaker 2: just remind you of who I think is still are
Speaker 2: still single and you can tell me if you bring
Speaker 2: them back on.
Speaker 3: Going all the way back.
Speaker 1: I mean Alex Michelle, I don't know where he is
Speaker 1: or if he's let's go back to number one, let's
Speaker 1: bring him back, like bring him you know, for I
Speaker 1: ran into somebody. It was so random. I think I
Speaker 1: talked about it on a prior podcast that they had
Speaker 1: seen him. But I do think he is a family
Speaker 1: man now is married with kids.
Speaker 3: Okay, well then he's not single. Okay, so Chris Soles.
Speaker 1: Chris Soles, that's a oh, he'd be a great one.
Speaker 1: You're right, suh. Still single, living in Iowa, still a farmer.
Speaker 1: That's a great idea.
Speaker 2: I think Chris Soles has some work to do on himself,
Speaker 2: as he does. I say this with love.
Speaker 1: By the way, our producer Kendall just chimed in because
Speaker 1: he's a neighbor of ours. Glenn Powell.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, well not a former bachelor.
Speaker 1: Not bachelor, but Glenn Powell. Glenn, he would be the ultimate.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I did used to think you, Kendle, because I did
Speaker 1: used to get that a lot of like I'd go
Speaker 1: on the Red Carpet and you know, I'd run into
Speaker 1: someone like you from entertainment tonight and said, if you
Speaker 1: could have anybody as the batter, who would it be?
Speaker 1: And I would say somebody like Glenn pal you know, charismatic, gorgeous, famous, rich,
Speaker 1: you know, single. I think he's single. I don't know
Speaker 1: they and we do an all Texas version that'd be good.
Speaker 2: Do you think that someone can be good on reality
Speaker 2: TV if they're so industry aware?
Speaker 1: So it'd be hard. Yeah, it'd be hard because very
Speaker 1: because crossing over you have to let go. You know.
Speaker 1: We talked about doing famous people all the time, and
Speaker 1: we had athletes reach out to us all the time,
Speaker 1: NFL football players, which, like, I think.
Speaker 2: That works a little bit better because they're not a
Speaker 2: little bit better film and TV awares.
Speaker 1: But let's say it's Tom Brady. We know, sure, but
Speaker 1: but I mean, but someone of his ilk. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be Tom Brady. But I'm just saying, when
Speaker 1: you get so famous and you're so like, you could
Speaker 1: use a third tier like former somebody who didn't quite
Speaker 1: make it in the league they kind of did. You
Speaker 1: can use that. But if someone's so famous, it's really
Speaker 1: hard unless they are so sincere about finding love, because
Speaker 1: I think they just like the idea of it and
Speaker 1: the actual I'm going to go date twenty five people
Speaker 1: from all across the country that you're just going to
Speaker 1: put in front of me, it's a very difficult thing
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Now, there are still a few other bachelors who I
Speaker 2: think might be single, like a Jake Pavelka or a
Speaker 2: Ben Flannek. But I'm going to tell you who I
Speaker 2: would want to see.
Speaker 3: Peter Webber.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did I miss that? Pilot Pete?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Peter is genius.
Speaker 2: Listen, we're still really good friends with Peter. I believe
Speaker 2: he's single right now. To me, he's a few years
Speaker 2: into sort of his maturity. Now. He got a lot
Speaker 2: of flak on the show for a sort of being
Speaker 2: wishy wash you're letting his mom make his decisions. But
Speaker 2: he is more mature, and he, to me, always had
Speaker 2: what some of the golden years of the show had,
Speaker 2: which was he actually was someone who you'd maybe see
Speaker 2: on TV and aspire to date. He was a pilot.
Speaker 2: He has this great successful job. You know, he has
Speaker 2: a job. No handsome guy. So I would like to
Speaker 2: see Peter Webber again.
Speaker 1: Wow, Mike drop, Yeah, that's it. That's the home run.
Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to the bachelorettes now, because I
Speaker 2: do want to get into that. Anybody from the past
Speaker 2: world who you'd bring back. Let me pull up the list,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna start.
Speaker 3: Here's the call to mind.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the batcherettes. They were good and
Speaker 1: most of them were successful. You have a lot more
Speaker 1: success with bacherettes than we had bachelor's, so there's not
Speaker 1: as many. You know, you look at some of your favorites,
Speaker 1: like you know, Jill, you have one.
Speaker 3: Major Okay, well, first, does anybody pop to mind to you?
Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to even think of a single.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you a major one. Who's I think single?
Speaker 2: Although she might be dating Zach Caitlyn Burst.
Speaker 1: Oh Caitlin. Yeah, I don't know if she's single or not,
Speaker 1: but you're right, she would be fantastic and talk about
Speaker 1: back to back seasons to Jason Tartick and then Katelyn Briste.
Speaker 3: God again your reality TV mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Caitlyn would be I would definitely have her
Speaker 1: back as the bacherette. She would be fantastic TV, because again,
Speaker 1: you care, you have, you have an opinion about Caitlyn,
Speaker 1: whether you love her, whether you don't like her. You
Speaker 1: want to see what she's going to do. She's compelling. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: that's so that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's more important for the audience to
Speaker 2: have an opinion about the lead, or for the lead
Speaker 2: themselves to have opinions.
Speaker 1: And no, you need to have an opinion about the lead.
Speaker 1: Typically typically that's because your lead does have opinions, but
Speaker 1: it could be you know, look at someone like Emily Maynard,
Speaker 1: maybe the most beloved bacherette we ever had. She wasn't
Speaker 1: opinionated per se. She was a very strong woman, but
Speaker 1: she was just so beloved for being a mom and
Speaker 1: in the heartland, and so it wasn't like she was controversial.
Speaker 1: She was just so loved. Caitlin definitely would have a
Speaker 1: lot to say, though. She would be good.
Speaker 2: Okay, single bachelorettes. Is Deanna she is?
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I was just talking to one of
Speaker 1: the Stagliano brothers via text, speaking of keeping in touch
Speaker 1: with my community. We were talking about Deanna. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she got divorced unfortunately from her husband. Uh one
Speaker 1: of the Stagliano brothers, Stephen, And yeah she's single. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd be good. When i'd go back into that. God,
Speaker 1: I remember her season two where she settled down with Jesse,
Speaker 1: the snowboarder. I wonder what happened to him. I remember
Speaker 1: being on Veil Mountain and Deanna was like on the
Speaker 1: back of Jesse and like flying down the mountain. It
Speaker 1: was the most scary, dangerous thing I've ever seen. But
Speaker 1: that how did how did she ever end up on
Speaker 1: the back of a snowboarder? Wow?
Speaker 3: What about Taysha?
Speaker 1: Oh is she single? I have no idea?
Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, she was dating the guy from a
Speaker 3: Bravo show.
Speaker 1: Never I think we can still count her. I think
Speaker 1: we still cooun Tasha. Yeah, because that's not serious enough
Speaker 1: that we can't talk about it. We're not breaking up
Speaker 1: a family here. I would definitely make an offer to Tasha.
Speaker 1: She's I loved her. She's one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: that was on the show. Very kind, beautiful obviously and
Speaker 1: definitely attracted the attention you want from an audience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd be good.
Speaker 2: And you're and the camera loved her. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: And you're right that. As I'm scrolling through this list.
Speaker 3: A lot of them are.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, more than the Bachelor's anyway. Some of them,
Speaker 1: you know, didn't get married on the show. But you
Speaker 1: look like Hannah Brown who's found love, and Claire and
Speaker 1: Andy Dorfman who's having a baby, and so like some
Speaker 1: of these women have gone on to fine love off
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone who's single who maybe wasn't a lead
Speaker 2: but from the franchise who pops to mind? Like you know,
Speaker 2: I was thinking we were recent with at Elon's producer
Speaker 2: along Gale's wedding was JP Rosenba.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and well Ashley's found love but seems to
Speaker 1: be dating. But JP seems to be in a great
Speaker 1: spot to be on the show.
Speaker 3: What is a great spot to be on the show.
Speaker 1: A little bit of turmoil, a little bit eco, a
Speaker 1: little emotional, little chaos in your life, yet probably ready
Speaker 1: to move On's that's the sweet thing.
Speaker 4: Not quite fixed, but open emotional so you can see
Speaker 4: him continue the transformation. Yeah, you're right, I forgot about
Speaker 4: JPI love by the way, just a good guy, like
Speaker 4: such a good game.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's a sweet man. He was just you know what.
Speaker 3: I give him so much credit.
Speaker 2: He came to the wedding single, didn't bring a date,
Speaker 2: but he just rolled with everybody and he like, look,
Speaker 2: you know, he is such a simple read. Honestly, if
Speaker 2: somebody just looks out for the people around them, even
Speaker 2: if they don't know them that well, like by that,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that was the first time I
Speaker 2: met JP and he's like, I think you were in
Speaker 2: the bathroom or something.
Speaker 3: He's like, Elsie, can I get you drink? You need anything? Like,
Speaker 3: you know, the kind of person who just a gentleman.
Speaker 2: A gentleman or if I mean a lady should do
Speaker 2: that as well, sort of look around for the people
Speaker 2: around them. But that's a quick read on a person
Speaker 2: thoughtful of those around them.
Speaker 1: Also has one of those rare things a job, he
Speaker 1: has a career and a family man, you know, how
Speaker 1: to how to let's.
Speaker 2: Go crazy with what we're looking for in a lead,
Speaker 2: gainfully employed, pretty good person, emotional open, you know, let's
Speaker 2: let's bring back to the golden Yeah, you're talking crazy.
Speaker 2: Someone just popped into mind for me, Tyler Cameron of
Speaker 2: Hannah Brown season Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if Tyler's ready.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him, want to either.
Speaker 2: I think he's like living a big life on social
Speaker 2: media and bopping around. I don't know if he's in
Speaker 2: a settled down period.
Speaker 1: Yes, he would be good, and that he's such a snack.
Speaker 1: Women would love to see him, you know, he would
Speaker 1: be the shirtless season. You know, it would be like
Speaker 1: Sean Low where he's just constantly in a shower and
Speaker 1: slow motion. It would be that if he would actually,
Speaker 1: here's my thing with Tyler and I like him, if
Speaker 1: he would honestly do it sincerely, if he was ready,
Speaker 1: if he was ready, and if he told me, Chris,
Speaker 1: it's time, I've jacked around long enough, I actually want
Speaker 1: to do this. I will obey by the actual rules.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to, you know, create chaos, as he
Speaker 1: tends to do, because he kind of just does things
Speaker 1: on his own terms.
Speaker 3: Which is fine.
Speaker 2: I said in an interview not too long ago that
Speaker 2: if he ever he'd want to host a reality dang show,
Speaker 2: not be on it, which speaks to where he's at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fine, And you know that's the whole
Speaker 1: point is, like you would have to have a conversation
Speaker 1: with him, are you ready? And he would have to
Speaker 1: really throw himself at the mercy of the court and say,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I give myself to you guys, I want
Speaker 1: to do this. I will be sincere, and then I
Speaker 1: think it would be a spectacular show. But until then
Speaker 1: it would just be and it would end in a
Speaker 1: total disaster, which could also be good TV.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of women who come to mind
Speaker 2: who I'm not. I'll be honest, I'm not quite sure
Speaker 2: if they're in relationships. I know that they're not married,
Speaker 2: so I'll name them. Kelly Flanagan of Peter's season.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know what she's up to.
Speaker 3: Smart, beautiful, opinionated.
Speaker 2: I laughed at the time because she so clearly was
Speaker 2: like kind of wise to the reality TV game of
Speaker 2: it more than other people. But I think if she
Speaker 2: same as read as with Tyler, if she really was
Speaker 2: genuinely trying to do it, she'd be amazing. Cassie Randolph
Speaker 2: of Colton season, she was just oh yeah, beautiful and
Speaker 2: easy to love, so loved.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's in a relationship, and I
Speaker 1: think she is.
Speaker 3: I think she might be in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one as we wrap this up. Yes,
Speaker 1: a celebrity bachelorette. You know, we picked a couple of
Speaker 1: celebrity bachelors, like a pal or an athlete like Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who is single, who would be like the ultimate bachelorette
Speaker 1: right now? Who is that?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Like Sydney Sweeney, No.
Speaker 2: She's dating, she's with someone, she's in a pretty she
Speaker 2: actually may be secretly married.
Speaker 3: There's some headlines about that ultimate bachelorette.
Speaker 1: Who is that now? Like in this day and age?
Speaker 1: Is it Kristin Cavaleri? Oh, now that she's broken up
Speaker 1: from her chear Justice? Yeah? Oh thirty seven perfect age.
Speaker 1: I think she'd be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Same thing as Tyler Cameron though, who she had famous?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is she ready?
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's ready to dive into another marriage,
Speaker 2: but I do think she.
Speaker 3: Could be great TV.
Speaker 1: Food for thought? Ok, food, Hey have that interesting? What
Speaker 1: about I mean, if we're going big Kendall Jenner, Well, no,
Speaker 1: I look, we threw Tom Brady on the mount rushmore less.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I'm doing a red carpet interview
Speaker 1: or someone goes, who would you you know, who would
Speaker 1: be your ultimate bachlerett, I'm like, Okay, who's the ultimate
Speaker 1: kJ By the way, I would love just because I
Speaker 1: would have Chris on and she would really take over
Speaker 1: on the Shay's host and I would let her host
Speaker 1: the show for her daughter.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was the gig Zendaya, but she's with
Speaker 2: it in a very adorable relationship with Tom Holland.
Speaker 3: But if you're really going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mount Rushmore and you can say anyone, but I
Speaker 2: don't know it kind of part of me also wants
Speaker 2: to go more interesting than that.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I think Christian Cavalieri is not only
Speaker 1: aspiring to get but interesting TV like she would be
Speaker 1: good because her love life has been such a roller coaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean interesting, like like quirky and unexpected. If
Speaker 2: you're talking, you're Mount Rushmore is like, you know, there's
Speaker 2: some people who are like on the show Bridgerton who
Speaker 2: I think would be good, Nikola who was just on
Speaker 2: the lead. She's like, loves reality TV and I think
Speaker 2: she could be fun to watch. Okay, well we've really
Speaker 2: dove deep. Thank you for playing this little game with me,
Speaker 2: and we'll see. We'll see as we continue to work
Speaker 2: on some new TV for you guys. And by the way,
Speaker 2: if you have thoughts, let us know who you'd want
Speaker 2: to see cast as a new lead.
Speaker 1: We are interested and we will do this again next
Speaker 1: because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks
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