1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the most dramatic podcast ever. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Lauren Zima and Chris Harrison. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Coming to you from, as Chris always says, the home 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: office in Austin, Texas. 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: And I'm taking the. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Reins a little bit today for this playbook. You know, 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: on the playbook we get into something that's a little 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: more evergreen, just a good topic of discussion, and I 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: was inspired to spring something on you our daughter Taylor. 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: She's been watching Love Island with her friends. 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: And it just gott's great. 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I think Love Island has maybe finally figured out 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: its formula after a few like it was fame. It 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: started out in England, then CBS aired it for a 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: few years and it did not do well and it 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: was very expensive, and then they brought it to Peacock 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: and it still wasn't really doing well, and then they 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: brought on Ariano Mattox of vander Pump Rules to host, 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: and maybe that combined with again, I guess this is 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: just maybe they've gotten their casting and producing finally figured out. 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: I've heard it's a good season. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I guess that's the good thing. For the streamers is 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: they could kick it off, NBC, put it down in 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, put it on Peacock, figure it out, 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and now it's it's really found its footing, so good. 28 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Kudos to the Peacock and NBC for giving it time. 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: And I wonder if they're spending less when it was 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: on CBS. I remember even thinking, God, the amount of 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: money they're spending on like royalties for songs. It's like, 32 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: you don't have to spend money to make a show good. 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: It's all about the content. 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: And I truly believe that it was like the people 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: who had an idea for a business and they went 36 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: and bought the most expensive office space in the city, 37 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and they got into the product and they didn't even 38 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: have a desk to put in it yet. 39 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: Before the worst is they say, by the way, let 40 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: me just do a quick side track. But that comment 41 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: I just made, I don't think you heard me say 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: it, and I want no if you agree with it. I said, oh, 43 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: it's like a marriage, like you got married and it's like, oh, 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: it's not working out, but I got to put a 45 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: couple of years in. 46 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: Do you think put a couple of years in. 47 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: Or cut and run if you're feeling wrong about a 48 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: marriage right now, No, I think I mean, and this is 49 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: not the playbook topic. Yeah, and by the way, this 50 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: is not and this hopefully this isn't personal. 51 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: It's not about it. 52 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, good, this isn't about to happen. But if you do, 53 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: cut and ron, let's finish the podcast. But I believe yes, 54 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: when you have kind of you are contractually obligated to 55 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: kind of see this through and actually to put an 56 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: effort into Whereas I think if you're just dating it's casual, 57 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: or even if you've been dating a little bit, you're like, 58 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: I think it's easier to break up. I think it's 59 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: easier to walk away. There's not as much emotional, financial, 60 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and your life. You haven't moved in together, et cetera. 61 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: And that's why I say to people, don't get married 62 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: too fast. People have asked me, what do you think 63 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: is the most important indicator of whether you should marry someone? 64 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: And I always save time time, give it time, go 65 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: through some stuff to at least four seasons. 66 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: At least I've got to go through all the seasons 67 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: of life together. 68 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: So Taylor and her friends have been watching Love Island 69 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: and that made me, you know, I think, yeah, like, okay, 70 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: something that's like I don't know, you can reinvigorate things. 71 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: And we are, you know, working on a new dating show, 72 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: and I wanted to ask you, with this new dating 73 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: show that we're working on, if you had to cast 74 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: our lead or even wanted to cast our lead from 75 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: people from your past. 76 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh, if I was going to dip back into the bachelor. 77 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Word, back into the bachelor world, who would you cast 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: as a lead? 79 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, and are we are we starting with guys? 80 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: So are we gonna start with bachelor's only? 81 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's go into the guys. 82 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: So if I was just starting bachelor. 83 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: Now, look, I don't I'm well, okay, you go ahead. 84 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: No, No, are there parameters to this because. 85 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm hesitant to like, I don't want you to tell me, like, 86 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: you know Andrew Firestone, who you love, but who's been 87 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: married for fifteen years and has three kings. 88 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Look, if I get a little bit feasible, if I 89 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: had my way, I would just like I would grab 90 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: all my boys. I'd grab Bob and Ben and whatever, 91 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and I would just do it all. Yeah, but with 92 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: all three of I would grab like three or four guys. 93 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: We'd do it all at once. We could all just 94 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: hang out and. 95 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: Well that's wait, like five leads at once. 96 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: I would have five leads at once, probably three, so 97 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: we'd have a foursome and we would probably shoot the 98 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: whole thing at Pebble Beach. Like I would be a 99 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: really selfish season. Maybe travel around in Europe a little bit, 100 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: go to some soccer games. It would be uh. I 101 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: don't think the women would enjoy this season at all. Yeah, okay, 102 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't be working on a TV show, But okay, 103 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: if I couldn't use my ogs the guys that you 104 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: know are married with kids, because it seems, you know, 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a complete. 106 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: Homewaker, know that they were good TV. 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I had talked to Jason Tartic. I 108 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: thought Jason Tartick would have been a very good U 109 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: lead for a show because I wanted him to be 110 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: a lead on The Bachelor. I wanted him to be 111 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: The Bachelor years ago, and I thought he would have 112 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: been a good lead coming off his season and then 113 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: he got together with Caitlin and then after the breakup, 114 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: I thought he would be good I think he's happy 115 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: in a loving relationship now, but I think he would 116 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: have been a good one. Who am I? Here's that's 117 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: the thing. This might be controversial, and maybe I'm a masochist, 118 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: but I would do another season with one Pablo. 119 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 120 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious. I'm curious, could we redeem? Has he grown? 121 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, has he evolved? I don't know. I haven't 122 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: talked to one Pablo, and I don't know how many 123 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: years ago that was that the season was on. But 124 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: he was so malign and so, you know, viciously attacked. 125 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: You know, you like it, and I like a challenge. 126 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: I think I like shows that make that push that envelope, 127 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: make you think, could he turn the tide and win 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: everybody over? And give him an honest chance to do so? 129 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: This I'm googling right now. I think he's single. It 130 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: looks like he was married from twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen. Okay, 131 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: he's forty three right now. 132 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm just curious. I don't know what he 133 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: looks like. Don't know, but another one, and this would 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: also be a redemption story. And he is one of 135 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: our neighbors. 136 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Brad Womack, Oh Brad Wollmack. He's single right now, and man, 137 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: do I want that guy. 138 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: To find life. 139 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I want Brad to find love because such a good guy. 140 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: He's the nicest guy in the world. To be kind 141 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: of a different version of the Wan Pablo season, because 142 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: Brad is such a sweet guy and he's just been 143 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: unlucky in love, and he has this great life. He's 144 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: doing kind of this side business. Now he's got you know, 145 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: he's got his money, he's got his life. He's mature, 146 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: he's built like, I mean, a Donnist. 147 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Brad Walmack is, he's his next chapter might be a 148 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: workout guru. 149 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Well he is. He's involved with a gym here in Austin. 150 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: That's kind of one of his things, the uh. And 151 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: so I think that he would be a very interesting 152 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: season two to dive back in his life and see 153 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: where he's at and could we reverse history, could we 154 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: change that and help him find love eventually. 155 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about both those guys which I think 156 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: could still make them work. I say that, I mean 157 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm guessing with Juan Pablo, and I say this love 158 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: for Brad. 159 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: They both do still have I think some things to 160 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: work through. 161 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: I mean obviously because they're both single, so there's still 162 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: some work to be done there. Like you said, you 163 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: like a challenge, and I do think one thing that 164 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: was always good about the show is, as you said, 165 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm quoting you, it makes you self reflect. 166 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: It makes even if there's drama, and even though you're getting. 167 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: Produced, you do do a lot of self reflection and 168 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: if you're open to it, and if you do it right, 169 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: maybe some growth. And so there's opportunity there with both 170 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: of them, and forty three and Brad is fifty one. 171 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's these guys, it's settled down. Time, find somebody, 172 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: find a life, partner, time. 173 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: And look again being selfish. If I just want ratings, 174 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: do a show with Brian Absola, Oh fresh off divorce? Oh, 175 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean that time. 176 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: I hadn't even thought about it. 177 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Tell me that. Tell me that show is not going 178 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: to get great ratings. 179 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: See. 180 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes this is when I this is when I remember 181 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: that you your reality, you have a reality to be producer. 182 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Mind. The mind starts telling here, you're just my you're. 183 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: My husband, not just my or my husband. But then 184 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: sometimes I remember hell on a TV produced. 185 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Her mind, I'm like, what would get the headlines and 186 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: what would bring that would do it? 187 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 188 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: Wow, that would be a show. 189 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you a question about the 190 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: Jason of it all. Huh, because I remember you saying 191 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: you wanted him to be the Bachelor and then yeah, 192 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: you had kind of before he was with the woman 193 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,479 Speaker 2: he's with now we had you'd had a few conversations 194 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: with him like, hey, you know, if we start doing 195 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: a new show, is this something you'd be open to? 196 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: What is it about Jason that would make him a 197 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: good lead? And are the same things that make Jason 198 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: a good lead the same things that make everybody a 199 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: good lead. 200 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, one of the things I think that makes anyone 201 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a good lead is that you have your your beloved. 202 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. You don't have to be beloved. It's 203 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, like a Wan Pablo even, I just don't 204 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: want you to be apathetic. I want you to care 205 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: about who the lead is and who the person is. 206 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: You know, you got to have that emotional tie, good 207 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: or bad. And so you know, Jason, we watched him evolve, 208 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: We watched his hairstyles evolve from you know, kind of 209 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: that guy from Buffalo to a man of the world. 210 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: Now he's got his books and he's got social media, 211 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: and he's so public now, and you know, he's he's 212 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: shaving all parts of his body and he's working out 213 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: nine times a day and he is He's perfect. Yeah, 214 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: And I know I love him like a brother. And 215 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: so we've watched him evolve, is the point, and he 216 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: has become this beloved figure in our lives that a 217 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of people can relate to. And and can you 218 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: feel like you can trust Jason too? I think he's 219 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: very trustworthy and that's the financial side of him. He's 220 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: very smart, articulate. So I just think he has that 221 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: it factor that would really pop on reality TV. I 222 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: think he'd be very good. 223 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: And so it's different person a person. Is there any 224 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: are there key things that you have to have your 225 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: lead have, like are there non negotiables that have to 226 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: be within a lead for them to work? 227 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: An opinion like I need you to care they you know, 228 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: milk Toast comes to mind. You just can't have milk 229 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Toast as your lead where people are like, okay, like 230 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if I watch Monday Night or not. 231 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I need you to care what 232 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: happens to their story, either good or bad. You know, 233 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: you can be so mad at me or so mad 234 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: at the show. I can't believe you put this person 235 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: on the air and your hate watching. That's fine, but 236 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: you're watching and you have an opinion, you'll go on 237 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: social media and you'll talk about it. And conversely, if 238 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: you love somebody, you're going to go on social media, 239 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: you're going to talk about it. But when you just 240 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: have somebody who you're apathetic about and you just don't 241 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: care about their story, honestly, it's probably what's happening right 242 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: now with the Golden Bachelorette with the guys and her 243 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know who the Bachelorette is. I don't 244 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: watch the show, but clearly apathy has set in with 245 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: that show and people don't care about the story. And 246 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: that's the death nail of a reality TV show. If 247 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: they don't care about the franchise, if they don't care 248 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: about the lead, if they don't care about the somebody 249 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: on the show. And I'm sure they are desperately trying 250 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: to fix this and editing right now, but you only 251 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: have so much. You either have it in the can 252 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: from filming or you don't. And my guess if they 253 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: had something to fire, if they had that bullet, they 254 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: would have fired it by now because they're under week 255 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: three or four or something and it just isn't happening. 256 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: So that is that's and by the way, as a producer, 257 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: it sucks. It's scary when you're into a season and 258 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: you just see apathy and you see people not caring 259 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: about that season and you may have really fallen in 260 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: love with that season and felt we got something here, 261 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: we really have it, and you just aren't seeing it 262 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: delivered in the ratings. It sucks because it's hard to 263 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: change the tide and you're just going down with the 264 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: ship and you just have to watch it unfold. For 265 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like death by a thousand pace cuts. You're just 266 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: watching it, Yeah, and you can't stop the train. It's 267 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: just going off the tracks. 268 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: Let me throw out a few other people because I'll 269 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: just remind you of who I think is still are 270 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: still single and you can tell me if you bring 271 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: them back on. 272 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: Going all the way back. 273 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean Alex Michelle, I don't know where he is 274 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: or if he's let's go back to number one, let's 275 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: bring him back, like bring him you know, for I 276 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: ran into somebody. It was so random. I think I 277 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: talked about it on a prior podcast that they had 278 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: seen him. But I do think he is a family 279 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: man now is married with kids. 280 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,359 Speaker 3: Okay, well then he's not single. Okay, so Chris Soles. 281 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: Chris Soles, that's a oh, he'd be a great one. 282 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: You're right, suh. Still single, living in Iowa, still a farmer. 283 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: That's a great idea. 284 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: I think Chris Soles has some work to do on himself, 285 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: as he does. I say this with love. 286 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: By the way, our producer Kendall just chimed in because 287 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: he's a neighbor of ours. Glenn Powell. 288 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,479 Speaker 3: Uh oh, well not a former bachelor. 289 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: Not bachelor, but Glenn Powell. Glenn, he would be the ultimate. 290 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: You know. 291 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I did used to think you, Kendle, because I did 292 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: used to get that a lot of like I'd go 293 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: on the Red Carpet and you know, I'd run into 294 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: someone like you from entertainment tonight and said, if you 295 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: could have anybody as the batter, who would it be? 296 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: And I would say somebody like Glenn pal you know, charismatic, gorgeous, famous, rich, 297 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, single. I think he's single. I don't know 298 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: they and we do an all Texas version that'd be good. 299 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Do you think that someone can be good on reality 300 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: TV if they're so industry aware? 301 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: So it'd be hard. Yeah, it'd be hard because very 302 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: because crossing over you have to let go. You know. 303 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: We talked about doing famous people all the time, and 304 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: we had athletes reach out to us all the time, 305 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: NFL football players, which, like, I think. 306 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: That works a little bit better because they're not a 307 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: little bit better film and TV awares. 308 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: But let's say it's Tom Brady. We know, sure, but 309 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: but I mean, but someone of his ilk. It doesn't 310 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: have to be Tom Brady. But I'm just saying, when 311 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: you get so famous and you're so like, you could 312 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: use a third tier like former somebody who didn't quite 313 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: make it in the league they kind of did. You 314 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: can use that. But if someone's so famous, it's really 315 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: hard unless they are so sincere about finding love, because 316 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: I think they just like the idea of it and 317 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the actual I'm going to go date twenty five people 318 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: from all across the country that you're just going to 319 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: put in front of me, it's a very difficult thing 320 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: to do. 321 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Now, there are still a few other bachelors who I 322 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: think might be single, like a Jake Pavelka or a 323 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: Ben Flannek. But I'm going to tell you who I 324 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: would want to see. 325 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Peter Webber. 326 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did I miss that? Pilot Pete? 327 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Peter is genius. 328 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Listen, we're still really good friends with Peter. I believe 329 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: he's single right now. To me, he's a few years 330 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: into sort of his maturity. Now. He got a lot 331 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: of flak on the show for a sort of being 332 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: wishy wash you're letting his mom make his decisions. But 333 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: he is more mature, and he, to me, always had 334 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: what some of the golden years of the show had, 335 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: which was he actually was someone who you'd maybe see 336 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: on TV and aspire to date. He was a pilot. 337 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: He has this great successful job. You know, he has 338 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: a job. No handsome guy. So I would like to 339 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: see Peter Webber again. 340 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Wow, Mike drop, Yeah, that's it. That's the home run. 341 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to the bachelorettes now, because I 342 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: do want to get into that. Anybody from the past 343 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: world who you'd bring back. Let me pull up the list, 344 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna start. 345 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Here's the call to mind. 346 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Here's the problem with the batcherettes. They were good and 347 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: most of them were successful. You have a lot more 348 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: success with bacherettes than we had bachelor's, so there's not 349 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: as many. You know, you look at some of your favorites, 350 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: like you know, Jill, you have one. 351 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: Major Okay, well, first, does anybody pop to mind to you? 352 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to even think of a single. 353 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you a major one. Who's I think single? 354 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: Although she might be dating Zach Caitlyn Burst. 355 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh Caitlin. Yeah, I don't know if she's single or not, 356 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: but you're right, she would be fantastic and talk about 357 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: back to back seasons to Jason Tartick and then Katelyn Briste. 358 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: God again your reality TV mind. 359 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Caitlyn would be I would definitely have her 360 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: back as the bacherette. She would be fantastic TV, because again, 361 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: you care, you have, you have an opinion about Caitlyn, 362 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: whether you love her, whether you don't like her. You 363 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: want to see what she's going to do. She's compelling. Yeah, great, 364 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: that's so that's a good one. 365 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: Do you think it's more important for the audience to 366 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: have an opinion about the lead, or for the lead 367 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,239 Speaker 2: themselves to have opinions. 368 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: And no, you need to have an opinion about the lead. 369 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Typically typically that's because your lead does have opinions, but 370 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: it could be you know, look at someone like Emily Maynard, 371 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: maybe the most beloved bacherette we ever had. She wasn't 372 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: opinionated per se. She was a very strong woman, but 373 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: she was just so beloved for being a mom and 374 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: in the heartland, and so it wasn't like she was controversial. 375 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: She was just so loved. Caitlin definitely would have a 376 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: lot to say, though. She would be good. 377 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, single bachelorettes. Is Deanna she is? 378 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: That's so funny. I was just talking to one of 379 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: the Stagliano brothers via text, speaking of keeping in touch 380 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: with my community. We were talking about Deanna. But yeah, 381 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: she's she got divorced unfortunately from her husband. Uh one 382 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of the Stagliano brothers, Stephen, And yeah she's single. So yeah, 383 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: she'd be good. When i'd go back into that. God, 384 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: I remember her season two where she settled down with Jesse, 385 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: the snowboarder. I wonder what happened to him. I remember 386 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: being on Veil Mountain and Deanna was like on the 387 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: back of Jesse and like flying down the mountain. It 388 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: was the most scary, dangerous thing I've ever seen. But 389 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: that how did how did she ever end up on 390 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the back of a snowboarder? Wow? 391 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: What about Taysha? 392 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: Oh is she single? I have no idea? 393 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, she was dating the guy from a 394 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: Bravo show. 395 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Never I think we can still count her. I think 396 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: we still cooun Tasha. Yeah, because that's not serious enough 397 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: that we can't talk about it. We're not breaking up 398 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: a family here. I would definitely make an offer to Tasha. 399 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: She's I loved her. She's one of my favorite people 400 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: that was on the show. Very kind, beautiful obviously and 401 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: definitely attracted the attention you want from an audience. Yeah, 402 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: she'd be good. 403 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: And you're and the camera loved her. Oh my gosh, 404 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: And you're right that. As I'm scrolling through this list. 405 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: A lot of them are. 406 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, more than the Bachelor's anyway. Some of them, 407 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, didn't get married on the show. But you 408 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: look like Hannah Brown who's found love, and Claire and 409 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Andy Dorfman who's having a baby, and so like some 410 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: of these women have gone on to fine love off 411 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: the show. 412 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: Is there anyone who's single who maybe wasn't a lead 413 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: but from the franchise who pops to mind? Like you know, 414 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking we were recent with at Elon's producer 415 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: along Gale's wedding was JP Rosenba. 416 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: Oh yes, and well Ashley's found love but seems to 417 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: be dating. But JP seems to be in a great 418 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: spot to be on the show. 419 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: What is a great spot to be on the show. 420 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: A little bit of turmoil, a little bit eco, a 421 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: little emotional, little chaos in your life, yet probably ready 422 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: to move On's that's the sweet thing. 423 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: Not quite fixed, but open emotional so you can see 424 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: him continue the transformation. Yeah, you're right, I forgot about 425 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: JPI love by the way, just a good guy, like 426 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: such a good game. 427 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: Yes, he's a sweet man. He was just you know what. 428 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: I give him so much credit. 429 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: He came to the wedding single, didn't bring a date, 430 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: but he just rolled with everybody and he like, look, 431 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: you know, he is such a simple read. Honestly, if 432 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: somebody just looks out for the people around them, even 433 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: if they don't know them that well, like by that, 434 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that was the first time I 435 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: met JP and he's like, I think you were in 436 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: the bathroom or something. 437 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: He's like, Elsie, can I get you drink? You need anything? Like, 438 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 3: you know, the kind of person who just a gentleman. 439 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: A gentleman or if I mean a lady should do 440 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: that as well, sort of look around for the people 441 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: around them. But that's a quick read on a person 442 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: thoughtful of those around them. 443 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Also has one of those rare things a job, he 444 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: has a career and a family man, you know, how 445 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: to how to let's. 446 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: Go crazy with what we're looking for in a lead, 447 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: gainfully employed, pretty good person, emotional open, you know, let's 448 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: let's bring back to the golden Yeah, you're talking crazy. 449 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Someone just popped into mind for me, Tyler Cameron of 450 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: Hannah Brown season Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if Tyler's ready. 451 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 452 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to him, want to either. 453 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: I think he's like living a big life on social 454 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: media and bopping around. I don't know if he's in 455 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: a settled down period. 456 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: Yes, he would be good, and that he's such a snack. 457 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: Women would love to see him, you know, he would 458 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: be the shirtless season. You know, it would be like 459 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: Sean Low where he's just constantly in a shower and 460 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: slow motion. It would be that if he would actually, 461 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: here's my thing with Tyler and I like him, if 462 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: he would honestly do it sincerely, if he was ready, 463 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: if he was ready, and if he told me, Chris, 464 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: it's time, I've jacked around long enough, I actually want 465 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: to do this. I will obey by the actual rules. 466 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm not going to, you know, create chaos, as he 467 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: tends to do, because he kind of just does things 468 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: on his own terms. 469 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: Which is fine. 470 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: I said in an interview not too long ago that 471 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: if he ever he'd want to host a reality dang show, 472 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: not be on it, which speaks to where he's at. 473 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fine, And you know that's the whole 474 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: point is, like you would have to have a conversation 475 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: with him, are you ready? And he would have to 476 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: really throw himself at the mercy of the court and say, 477 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I give myself to you guys, I want 478 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: to do this. I will be sincere, and then I 479 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: think it would be a spectacular show. But until then 480 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: it would just be and it would end in a 481 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: total disaster, which could also be good TV. 482 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: There are a couple of women who come to mind 483 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: who I'm not. I'll be honest, I'm not quite sure 484 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: if they're in relationships. I know that they're not married, 485 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: so I'll name them. Kelly Flanagan of Peter's season. 486 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know what she's up to. 487 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: Smart, beautiful, opinionated. 488 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: I laughed at the time because she so clearly was 489 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: like kind of wise to the reality TV game of 490 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: it more than other people. But I think if she 491 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: same as read as with Tyler, if she really was 492 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: genuinely trying to do it, she'd be amazing. Cassie Randolph 493 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: of Colton season, she was just oh yeah, beautiful and 494 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: easy to love, so loved. 495 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if she's in a relationship, and I 496 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: think she is. 497 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: I think she might be in a relationship. 498 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you one as we wrap this up. Yes, 499 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: a celebrity bachelorette. You know, we picked a couple of 500 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: celebrity bachelors, like a pal or an athlete like Tom Brady, 501 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: who is single, who would be like the ultimate bachelorette 502 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: right now? Who is that? 503 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: Is it? 504 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Like Sydney Sweeney, No. 505 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: She's dating, she's with someone, she's in a pretty she 506 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: actually may be secretly married. 507 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: There's some headlines about that ultimate bachelorette. 508 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: Who is that now? Like in this day and age? 509 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: Is it Kristin Cavaleri? Oh, now that she's broken up 510 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: from her chear Justice? Yeah? Oh thirty seven perfect age. 511 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: I think she'd be fantastic. 512 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: Same thing as Tyler Cameron though, who she had famous? 513 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 514 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: Is she ready? 515 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's ready to dive into another marriage, 516 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: but I do think she. 517 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: Could be great TV. 518 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: Food for thought? Ok, food, Hey have that interesting? What 519 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: about I mean, if we're going big Kendall Jenner, Well, no, 520 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: I look, we threw Tom Brady on the mount rushmore less. 521 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I'm doing a red carpet interview 522 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: or someone goes, who would you you know, who would 523 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: be your ultimate bachlerett, I'm like, Okay, who's the ultimate 524 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: kJ By the way, I would love just because I 525 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: would have Chris on and she would really take over 526 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: on the Shay's host and I would let her host 527 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: the show for her daughter. 528 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I was the gig Zendaya, but she's with 529 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: it in a very adorable relationship with Tom Holland. 530 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: But if you're really going. 531 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mount Rushmore and you can say anyone, but I 532 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: don't know it kind of part of me also wants 533 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: to go more interesting than that. 534 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: Well that's why I think Christian Cavalieri is not only 535 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: aspiring to get but interesting TV like she would be 536 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: good because her love life has been such a roller coaster. 537 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean interesting, like like quirky and unexpected. If 538 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: you're talking, you're Mount Rushmore is like, you know, there's 539 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: some people who are like on the show Bridgerton who 540 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: I think would be good, Nikola who was just on 541 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: the lead. She's like, loves reality TV and I think 542 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: she could be fun to watch. Okay, well we've really 543 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: dove deep. Thank you for playing this little game with me, 544 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: and we'll see. We'll see as we continue to work 545 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: on some new TV for you guys. And by the way, 546 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: if you have thoughts, let us know who you'd want 547 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: to see cast as a new lead. 548 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: We are interested and we will do this again next 549 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks 550 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most Dramatic 551 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: pod ever, and make sure to write us a review 552 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.