Speaker 1: All right. On today's show, we got preseason game one recap,
Speaker 1: we got MVPs, we got intriguing bubble watch, and I
Speaker 1: think Fredie did a great job going through that. We're
Speaker 1: also looking ahead to the joint practices and fred you
Speaker 1: picked off a super Bowl winning quarterback at McDonald's. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: so make sure you stay tuned for that. Welcome on
Speaker 1: into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with
Speaker 1: Santana Mos, who's really got a very excellent fit today.
Speaker 2: Tanna looking very hollyween.
Speaker 3: Look at this, I mean orange shoes, orange, I got
Speaker 3: Mcaros City colors on and orange a chief man.
Speaker 2: Actually it looks like Baltimore Oriole it does, and they're
Speaker 2: hot right now. Don't get it twisted, No, I get it.
Speaker 3: Yoshould have saw us, you know, football season back back
Speaker 3: when I was in high school. We put on it
Speaker 3: all black and had that orange coming out man to today,
Speaker 3: were scared to see you on Friday night.
Speaker 1: But the other voice on there, excuse me, is Fred Smooth,
Speaker 1: a guy who probably doesn't need any introduction.
Speaker 2: Don't introduce me.
Speaker 1: Did all right? So we just had a preseason game, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did right, so high level thoughts. What you guys
Speaker 1: seen in that game.
Speaker 3: It was all right for the start, you know, for
Speaker 3: the first preseason game. You know, my biggest thing was,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't get too caught up into preseason.
Speaker 3: I do try to see who's going to be the
Speaker 3: guy that we can say, Okay, it's gonna make the
Speaker 3: squad from the young guys. But I wanted to see
Speaker 3: the ones select the ones. I wanted to see our
Speaker 3: ones go out there and get their feet weet. It's
Speaker 3: hard to come out, it's hard to be in you know, preseason.
Speaker 3: I mean mid season form in the preseason. But I
Speaker 3: wanted to see them get out there with the amount
Speaker 3: of players that they was going to be given, be
Speaker 3: productive enough to have something to build on for the
Speaker 3: next week. And I think for the for the most part,
Speaker 3: both sides did that defensive well.
Speaker 4: First of all, starting this thing off them by the
Speaker 4: Browns color STU that you win is Hey, the Browns.
Speaker 4: I think our legit team.
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel that way washing them.
Speaker 2: Listen to me.
Speaker 4: We know their offensive line s wrong. They can run
Speaker 4: on anybody to pass somebody. Shun Washington's starting to look
Speaker 4: like the Shaun Watson. And when you add be scary,
Speaker 4: Elijah more to that, and you already got them.
Speaker 2: Marri Cooper.
Speaker 4: I just thought it was a great measuring stick and
Speaker 4: it was a physical game, and you know, like I know,
Speaker 4: we judged from the first man on the roster to
Speaker 4: the fifty third on the roster, and I seen this
Speaker 4: team go tick for tat with them, and I think
Speaker 4: that's a great signal, especially with that division as a whole.
Speaker 4: That's what I like about us playing this division as
Speaker 4: a whole. You're playing against good competition. I thought the
Speaker 4: guys came out to huddle fast. I thought the offense
Speaker 4: looked sharp. I thought the defense was flying around. I
Speaker 4: just thought I got more out.
Speaker 2: Of this far.
Speaker 4: This We've been starting slow for the last but seventeen years,
Speaker 4: all right, So at the end of the day, it
Speaker 4: gave me some hope that we maybe can start fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it did have like a like a
Speaker 1: Christmas to it, you know. Offensively, even though it didn't
Speaker 1: go as smooth as they wanted to, I don't think
Speaker 1: especially those first couple drives, probably the second drive there,
Speaker 1: like it's it was sharp, the temple was good, and
Speaker 1: defensively there were some hiccups but they made plays when
Speaker 1: they had to make plays. Yeah, and we and I
Speaker 1: think it's important to knowledge, like we all know that
Speaker 1: not everything's in, but in terms of the player's mindset,
Speaker 1: it felt like it was at a certain spot that
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't seen for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: I mean, temple is everything too. And I think you
Speaker 3: take on, you know, the energy from your coaches. You know,
Speaker 3: we talk about eb and already the kind of tone
Speaker 3: he set, Uh, that's what you want to see. You
Speaker 3: want to see the guys respond that way. I feel
Speaker 3: like you played here with cale them. You saw how
Speaker 3: their temple was, you saw the kind of you know, uh,
Speaker 3: tone they set how we need to be. You know,
Speaker 3: like I said before, I talk about them more than
Speaker 3: all the other staffs I've been a.
Speaker 2: Part of, because I think I never talk about Grooed.
Speaker 3: That's my last staff really, you know, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean I'm.
Speaker 2: Not starting anything. I just never hear him talk about Grooden.
Speaker 4: Like you know, when we was in Grooten offense and
Speaker 4: I was coming on and he will always go to
Speaker 4: calv Well one.
Speaker 3: I didn't play in green offense. He didn't want men
Speaker 3: to play in his offense. So that's why I don't
Speaker 3: talk about his offense. But cal offense was the offense
Speaker 3: that I played in more, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Groenen offense was my last year here. You know how
Speaker 3: that went. You know, I was on the sideline for
Speaker 3: six games and I barely played in the games I
Speaker 3: did dress up for. But I talk about them because
Speaker 3: of the tone they sat with the young guys and
Speaker 3: even the older guys, guys like myself, Like you walk
Speaker 3: in that office with Mike. Mike gonna let you be
Speaker 3: a probe, but at the same time he's gonna tell
Speaker 3: you to a man that hey, you could do what
Speaker 3: you want, but I need you to do this, and
Speaker 3: if you ain't like it.
Speaker 1: He was out the door in the.
Speaker 3: Same way with Kyle. Kyle was me and Kyle the
Speaker 3: same age, you know what I mean. So Peter Pierry
Speaker 3: were sitting there talking at time. Kyle might say, Tana,
Speaker 3: I need you to go out there and do whatever
Speaker 3: you're gonna do. You know what I mean, Do this, Tanne,
Speaker 3: you know, and I need to see it now. So
Speaker 3: I like those responses from coaches because me as a player,
Speaker 3: I took him and I didn't take it for granted,
Speaker 3: So I see that in the offense already going forward
Speaker 3: with EB.
Speaker 4: That's so funny because you just made me think about
Speaker 4: who was my best offensive brain trust that I ever
Speaker 4: played with, and I think it was coach Joe Jackson
Speaker 4: Gibbs aka.
Speaker 2: The Joseph Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's funny when you talk about Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off, but we talked about Gibbs.
Speaker 1: There's this very similar philosophy to Kyle. Right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have these runs. We're gonna change them up a little
Speaker 1: bit by the formation each week, but these are the
Speaker 1: ones we're gonna get to. We're gonna have some type
Speaker 1: of passing game off of it with a little bit
Speaker 1: of play action work. And again that was really cutting
Speaker 1: edge when he was in the league. Like that action idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like a totally new thing. So it is.
Speaker 1: It is interesting because like his preparation, Gibbs, from what
Speaker 1: you've said, it seems to mirror Kyle's.
Speaker 4: Almost definitely does. And you gotta realize that his early years,
Speaker 4: I ain't that old. I didn't play with him when
Speaker 4: they was winning the Super Bowl, but he was the
Speaker 4: one that really opened it up to the three and
Speaker 4: four wide out between him and Houston.
Speaker 2: Allis they was the one.
Speaker 4: That spread it out, not only spread it out to
Speaker 4: throw it, but spread it out to run the ball.
Speaker 4: And I think that was different than I think that
Speaker 4: would change the game with coach Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely, I mean totaldred percent. So we got a
Speaker 1: little fun game coming up here to kind of help
Speaker 1: us review the roster a little bit. Right, So this
Speaker 1: is preseason game one recap, and we're gonna start with
Speaker 1: We're gonna have four categories, MVP, Surprise, Standout, ooh, Intriguing,
Speaker 1: and bubble Watch. Okay, so we're gonna have categories for
Speaker 1: each one. We're gonna start with MVP. We'll least go
Speaker 1: around and kind of say who our MVP of the
Speaker 1: game was, Fred, I know you want to start, So.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go with Young Airwolf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go with Sam Howe because you know what, I
Speaker 4: don't need him to throw for two hundred yards.
Speaker 2: I need him to look the part.
Speaker 4: I need him to be comfortable, and I need him
Speaker 4: to show that nothing ralizes him. And he showed he
Speaker 4: all three of those things. I felt like the office
Speaker 4: looked like an offense. You know how I'm not throwing
Speaker 4: in the shade here, but Carson wentz Heineke.
Speaker 2: It was always an if, but like it was always
Speaker 2: a struggle.
Speaker 4: And always I was just waiting for something bad to
Speaker 4: have it, Like I'm sorry, I was like a feeling
Speaker 4: in my stomach with him, with Sam and just feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: it's only gonna.
Speaker 2: Get better from here.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, I definitely agree. I don't even want
Speaker 3: to pick someone because I feel like, you know, Sam
Speaker 3: was that he was the guy. I mean, if you
Speaker 3: had to point pinpoint, if you had to give out,
Speaker 3: you know, m VPS that night, everyone probably who came
Speaker 3: to see Sam, which I know all our fan base,
Speaker 3: did you know they would have went home please saying
Speaker 3: hey we got somebody we can work with. That guy,
Speaker 3: you know, and he went out there or what I
Speaker 3: loved about his play more than anything is to see
Speaker 3: us put in the situation that you want to see,
Speaker 3: situation of football where okay, we didn't go out there
Speaker 3: and play well in that second series, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean we got backed up and we got off the field.
Speaker 3: Third series came out there and drove down the field
Speaker 3: and scored a touchdown. So stuff like that. It's meaningful
Speaker 3: to me as a receiver, just knowing that, Okay, that
Speaker 3: he didn't sit there and dwell in the moment and say, damn,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean with this preseason, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to hear him get out of his game. No, he
Speaker 3: was eager to go out there and make a difference
Speaker 3: in that third series and they went out there and
Speaker 3: got a TV.
Speaker 4: You know what, I got an MVP for this game,
Speaker 4: and I think it was truly an MVP moment.
Speaker 2: The owner, Josh Harris.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, listen in the stands in the rain
Speaker 4: with his son and when they interviewed him, how do
Speaker 4: you feel, first true interview, first game?
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the new ownership of the team?
Speaker 2: You like, I don't own this team, the city on
Speaker 2: this team, like the people on this team. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: not MVP.
Speaker 1: I was talking someone the other day about that, Like
Speaker 1: it felt like I as a as a player, like
Speaker 1: if I had seen the owner in the rain sitting
Speaker 1: in it wasn't like he was in like.
Speaker 2: A broke box. It wasn't nothing.
Speaker 1: It's like the Browns fan was sitting right behind him here,
Speaker 1: just sitting there.
Speaker 3: I saw him do an interview on Instagram with one
Speaker 3: of our biggest fans and followers, the road warrioror you know,
Speaker 3: you know how you know what? He was on his
Speaker 3: Instagram pace doing an interview with him. Like, to me,
Speaker 3: that's accessibility. It's so different if you talking about getting
Speaker 3: fans to come back and be a part of what
Speaker 3: you got going here. He gonna have that stadium pack,
Speaker 3: I mean just off of that alone. I mean one
Speaker 3: of the things you look about, you know, I mean
Speaker 3: we talk about in this world today sells. You know,
Speaker 3: when we're talking about being a part of what's going on,
Speaker 3: how can you be you know, I guess you can say.
Speaker 3: You know, some of these wealthy guys when they're talking
Speaker 3: about selling something, you don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Speaker 3: We don't have to go out there and make something up.
Speaker 3: You can sell something that's already been out here, that's
Speaker 3: being sold Amazon. That's what they do better in accessibility.
Speaker 4: I mean that's what he's saying, because I forget the
Speaker 4: first his first day of ownership, he bought rounds for
Speaker 4: everybody in his head, which I had around on those
Speaker 4: beers right there, and no, nothing tastes batter than Josh
Speaker 4: hare is Hale, especially because it was free, because it's
Speaker 4: free man, I.
Speaker 1: Fai yeah, So, I mean I think those are great.
Speaker 1: Another one I wanted to kind of call attention was
Speaker 1: eb Man, like you know what, I'm on the sideline
Speaker 1: calling the game and like I'm trying to get in
Speaker 1: with my analysis, right and they're going so fast you
Speaker 1: can't get in, right. I thought the formations were great,
Speaker 1: kind of three wide receivers to the left tight end,
Speaker 1: isolated back motion, helping the quarterback dissect the coverage. They're
Speaker 1: getting twenty one personnel, two backs, one tight end. That's
Speaker 1: a running formation and they're throwing the ball out of it, right.
Speaker 1: Like I just loved his approach, like it was you
Speaker 1: could tell, like Kenn of what you were talking about
Speaker 1: with like last year's offense, Like last year felt like
Speaker 1: this is like what we do for offense. I felt
Speaker 1: like there was some life and some creativity even in
Speaker 1: this like very.
Speaker 2: Plain, yes, I'm gonna show you anything.
Speaker 1: Right right. I thought that was great. And again just
Speaker 1: the attention to detail. And then like I got to
Speaker 1: talk to him for like five seconds before I shall say,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you like about it?
Speaker 1: He's like I love that we had some adversity in
Speaker 1: our practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Noady got to figure it out and and.
Speaker 1: I thought, like that is like what, that's who he is.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that likes to challenges players and he
Speaker 1: wants to see how they respond. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, like Tennis said, they came out and they
Speaker 1: responded really well. So I think those are good. Another guy,
Speaker 1: I want to just call it just kind of get
Speaker 1: my a shout out was Johan Dotson. I thought he
Speaker 1: looked like that dude.
Speaker 2: Listen he is. He's so sweet running routes.
Speaker 4: He ran a route yesterday, I mean the other day
Speaker 4: when we did practice.
Speaker 2: I thought he gave me diabetes. Listen. He came out
Speaker 2: the top of the route. It was so sweet.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I was like, see this is something, this is something,
Speaker 4: this next level right here, Like I'm sorry, like his
Speaker 4: maturation from year one to year two, it feels like
Speaker 4: he's a year four while I received with playing for
Speaker 4: a contract.
Speaker 1: Gither. Yeah, absolutely, I mean stupid. I mean, you're smiling, like,
Speaker 1: I respect you, Tanna because you like watch the film,
Speaker 1: you study routes and you're always man. He's doing some
Speaker 1: mixed level stuff.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost scary because and I say that because
Speaker 3: you have a guy that we respect so much in
Speaker 3: his game and Terry, And I'm saying to myself, like,
Speaker 3: if you gonna check double Terry, you'll be a fool
Speaker 3: to leave that boy one on one withich with somebody.
Speaker 3: So it might be different this year. We might see
Speaker 3: a lot of double teams going to number one and
Speaker 3: Terry gonna still kill you. Now, you don't want to
Speaker 3: leave him over because he gonna kill. He shows you
Speaker 3: every he's a proven come on, it kill you. So
Speaker 3: it's like pick your poison, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing is like, you know,
Speaker 1: Johanna had a good game Cole Turner and talking about
Speaker 1: underneath kind of manipulating that stuff. If you got to
Speaker 1: match both those guys, you got tight ends here that
Speaker 1: you underneath, you know. Curtis Samuel was quiet how to
Speaker 1: catch I think, but you know, ultimately like we because
Speaker 1: there's so many pieces here and because defenses can't cover everybody,
Speaker 1: like you said, and then our production meeting today, Fred
Speaker 1: defenses always have holes, right, Yeah, we always got we
Speaker 1: got enough guys. I think we can exploit.
Speaker 3: It's a problem. It's gonna be a it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a great problem to have for us offensively. Who were
Speaker 3: getting the boss?
Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a sam Hoile thing.
Speaker 4: How quick can he read the defense to find out
Speaker 4: what we in and how quick can he identify where
Speaker 4: the weakness that and where the man.
Speaker 2: He needs to go to? They'll feel the stat sheet up.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why in my head, I just
Speaker 4: you know, I like to play fantasy football, and I
Speaker 4: am so tempted to get Antonio Gipsy. I feel like
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a fantasy darling. I feel like him
Speaker 4: and Curtis samuel Is as much as I.
Speaker 2: I want to do it too.
Speaker 4: I want to give him a chance, but I need
Speaker 4: him to stay healthy. I need him to stay healthy
Speaker 4: for seventeen games. But I do also think he will
Speaker 4: flourish in his defense in a Melachai Hartman type of
Speaker 4: way in this.
Speaker 1: In this defense, yeah absolutely, Okay, So yeah, defense minded.
Speaker 1: The next one we're saying is surprise standout from the game.
Speaker 1: I think we had some really good m vps. This
Speaker 1: one's gonna be tough. Who wants to start? I can
Speaker 1: start af you so For me, I wanted to put
Speaker 1: the Sky in as an m VP, but you can't
Speaker 1: put guards and an MVP quite honestly, right, So Sam
Speaker 1: Cosby is my guy. Sam Cosmi Versdarius Smith like that
Speaker 1: dude put on a clinic and Zadaria Smith is one
Speaker 1: of the best inside outside pass rushers in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he kind of said, what's up, man, Like I'm
Speaker 1: here to party, and like, you know, he's moving positions
Speaker 1: Sam is and he just looked super comfortable. They looked
Speaker 1: like he had great chemistry with Gates and he locked
Speaker 1: down one of the best pass rushs in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like on a couple snaps. It it
Speaker 1: was like four or five snaps he did that. So
Speaker 1: I look at him in the in the physicality like
Speaker 1: he's he's he's going to chip help, you know, like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like the slides to the right and he's
Speaker 1: got to help Wiley and he's kind of coming in
Speaker 1: there and trying to bust up some ribs. And I
Speaker 1: like my offensive lineman to have that demeanor and mentality
Speaker 1: and couple that with his athleticism and I think, man
Speaker 1: like he uh, he's not a surprise because I know
Speaker 1: he's a second round pick. He's a football player, and
Speaker 1: again I wanted to put him for MVP, but I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure we gave him some attention there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Chris Rodriguez. I think it's the
Speaker 3: it's the obvious. I mean, it's not a surprise, but
Speaker 3: it's a surprise for just knowing that he's a young guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you don't know how these guys, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to put the best word bingo. You can always
Speaker 3: see what they did in college and say does that
Speaker 3: transfer over to this league?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And Logan said something that we all heard when his
Speaker 3: coach talked about him, you know, looking like crap until
Speaker 3: he get in pads. And trust me, that was a
Speaker 3: game that guy shows you that look went in doubt.
Speaker 3: You put the guy in front of me, he ain't
Speaker 3: bringing me down. I'm gonna run them over and his
Speaker 3: mama might be mad at me, and I'm happy with that.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that because just knowing what we have
Speaker 3: in the backfield. Now we're sitting there, were talking about
Speaker 3: who's potentially to be here or not. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get too far ahead of myself, he's gonna be here,
Speaker 3: yeah after he's gonna be here. And so it was
Speaker 3: a surprise of me to to see him say this
Speaker 3: is this is not too big for me. This is football.
Speaker 3: I've been trained to do this. I'm gonna run you over.
Speaker 3: I might be one of the better backs in this
Speaker 3: in this backfield, and I'm a young guy. So I
Speaker 3: got to sit here and get it how I live.
Speaker 3: And I think he's the guy that needs some recognition
Speaker 3: and all.
Speaker 1: On that point, I think that second offensive line, like Montero, Lucas,
Speaker 1: uh Larsen, they had great games and so you know
Speaker 1: they were opening up some big holes for christ I mean,
Speaker 1: Chris showed it was he showed the power and the
Speaker 1: things you wanted to see from him. But that group
Speaker 1: deserves a ton of credit. Foster the right tackle, Loof
Speaker 1: and Bamb I think is the right guards. Name a
Speaker 1: guy that I didn't think was even in like contention
Speaker 1: for that spot. He hadn't had a great game. So
Speaker 1: that that whole second group, the depth of the offensive line,
Speaker 1: maybe that's a surprise standout is the depth of that
Speaker 1: offensive line like they did. There was no drop off
Speaker 1: when Jacobe Prissett came in home and they played really well.
Speaker 4: Well, you know Yaki talking about Chris why ria his
Speaker 4: body that he ain't the He don't get it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a pro's body before we'll have a
Speaker 2: six pick.
Speaker 4: But I tell you I got ran over by bad
Speaker 4: body back a couple of times by the name of
Speaker 4: Jerome benny 'letna tell you, like sometime the bad body
Speaker 4: works for you. But my guy just surprised you, like
Speaker 4: really stuck out to me. Cold Turner was the guy
Speaker 4: that said, you know what, Logan, you're not gonna play.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take chance to show the world what I
Speaker 4: can do. X Y Receiver buked up to play tight end.
Speaker 4: His theme was can he stay healthy? He went out
Speaker 4: there and made some good catches. And the thing about
Speaker 4: this off is we know it this West Coast.
Speaker 2: Can you move the change? He proved it. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make the catch.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move the change, and I might have some
Speaker 4: wiggle after the catch. So I think who took advantage
Speaker 4: of the situation and brought the best light Cole You
Speaker 4: went in the game. Most people didn't know who Cold
Speaker 4: Turner was. He came out the game, you knew who
Speaker 4: Cold Turner.
Speaker 1: Was absolutely Another guy that I think we should just
Speaker 1: call attention to is a guy that I think might
Speaker 1: have solidified his roster spot yesterday, and that's suck Christian Holmes.
Speaker 1: Like he did do such a good job making physical tackles,
Speaker 1: separating guys from the ball. And I thought you saw
Speaker 1: a confidence from him that you didn't see last year
Speaker 1: against Carolina in the first reason game. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think couple that with the fact that he's an excellent gunner,
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna be in a good spot
Speaker 1: to say, like, because of that performance, he might make
Speaker 1: the team easy. I want to say. I don't say
Speaker 1: he's a lock, because there's nothing a lock right now,
Speaker 1: but I think he's.
Speaker 2: It's him a wild goose fighting for this what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he's thinking about it, like all the teams you
Speaker 1: played with fred Tanne to the starting gunner is a
Speaker 1: starting position. Yeah, So if you're starting a gunner, which
Speaker 1: I think he is hivin Percy Butler, couple that with
Speaker 1: the fact that he showed good corner play, like I
Speaker 1: don't know how he doesn't make it.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you know, we had a guy and now
Speaker 3: is Paul that. Oh yeah, every year and and and
Speaker 3: you then you end up seeing him in the games,
Speaker 3: and you know, add tight in at receiving. He was
Speaker 3: one of those guys. He was like a Swiss army knife.
Speaker 1: And so probably that fourth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's not too long ago.
Speaker 4: Good still looks saying Steve Buffets, he's still.
Speaker 2: In the breast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's uh, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: good guy to call out. Also, Okay, this next one
Speaker 1: I think is kind of fun intriguing. Who would you
Speaker 1: think fits in this category? If you want, I can
Speaker 1: go first to.
Speaker 2: Get could you say I'm gonna go first.
Speaker 3: You took one, you took one. I'm gonna take this Okay, Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm going with my man cash man Allen Oh all right.
Speaker 3: Like and we talked about, you know, just saying his
Speaker 3: name a lot so far as you have said a lot.
Speaker 3: But I have to say he intrigued me. He showed
Speaker 3: me I was looking at the punk return position. You know,
Speaker 3: me and Logan. Logan wanted to beat me up last
Speaker 3: year because of what I said.
Speaker 1: You're you're saying the correct thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're abusive sometimes.
Speaker 3: With me and I say logan, I won't hit you
Speaker 3: in unless.
Speaker 2: You hit me, so we never feeling stuff, he said.
Speaker 3: But no, honestly, you know when you when you're watching
Speaker 3: these guys. I was one of those guys when we played.
Speaker 3: I paid close attention to the young guys. I could
Speaker 3: tell you every year, whos gonna make the squad? Who's
Speaker 3: that guy that's gonna make the squad. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that right now with cash mare Allen, but I say
Speaker 3: he raised my eyebrows just knowing that we need a
Speaker 3: difference maker at the punt return or return special period.
Speaker 3: We need a guy who's going to be able to
Speaker 3: be able to score the ball. You know one thing
Speaker 3: about catching the ball. That's fine and Danny, but you're
Speaker 3: in the pros need to if you back there, you
Speaker 3: should catch them all. It should know how at least
Speaker 3: I need a guy that's going to get us a
Speaker 3: first down that point return, and and and and when.
Speaker 3: If he's back there as a return specialist on the
Speaker 3: kick return, he knows how to decipher those guys who's
Speaker 3: coming down full full steam ahead and get get a
Speaker 3: couple of at least get us to the twenty yeah
Speaker 3: or beyond. So he showed that he can do that,
Speaker 3: and I think Cashmere has kind of put that mark,
Speaker 3: you know, and say, hey, coaches, you know when you
Speaker 3: put me in back here, I'm gonna do my job.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I want to see what he can do going for
Speaker 3: as a receiver, but specialists right now, return specialists. He
Speaker 3: raised mind bros.
Speaker 2: Well first of all, logan, give me a ooh intriguing.
Speaker 1: Ooh intriguing, Why thank you?
Speaker 4: I will go personally with this guy, rich honey Kwan Martins.
Speaker 2: Alright.
Speaker 4: I watched him play safety, I watched him play nickel,
Speaker 4: I watched him play corner. I see they're just they're
Speaker 4: throwing the whole playbook at him, and it's intriguing because
Speaker 4: they setting it up. I'm not saying he's gonna be
Speaker 4: this player, but I'm saying they are setting him up
Speaker 4: to be the future, to have this type of uh
Speaker 4: I think footprint and fingerprint on this team. They setting
Speaker 4: him up to be very honey Badger like, the setting
Speaker 4: him up to be the guy in one or two
Speaker 4: years that to see what we're in you're gonna have
Speaker 4: to find him. He's the guy that can go down
Speaker 4: play big nilklek. He can play a regular nikle safety
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, corner, outside corner. I
Speaker 4: think that's I know, they're giving him a lot on
Speaker 4: his plate, so he might he might not, you know,
Speaker 4: be giving us a lot this year. I think they
Speaker 4: setting him up for long term success, and that's very
Speaker 4: intriguing him.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up. I want to ask you,
Speaker 3: do you think that would stunt his growth, being that
Speaker 3: he got so much on his plate? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean, because I hate to see a young.
Speaker 2: Guy thinking too much.
Speaker 3: You get me when you think, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: You can't think in this game. So I was going
Speaker 3: to ask you that. When I watched the game, i'mine,
Speaker 3: you can see that he has the talent. But do
Speaker 3: you think that they putting too much on the plate
Speaker 3: so early?
Speaker 4: So think they are because I think they got a
Speaker 4: plan for it, and they know for a fact, because
Speaker 4: of the guys we have in front of him, he
Speaker 4: don't have to play right now. So they're making sure
Speaker 4: all right when you do play, whoever goes down you
Speaker 4: to peel ain't got a feel you to do. And
Speaker 4: we want you to be ridy for all fur of
Speaker 4: these positions. And I think they're going to slow slow
Speaker 4: roll him, slow cook him, rotissary staff.
Speaker 1: I'm also glad you brought him up because I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, oh, he gave up a
Speaker 1: touchdown on that first kind of all out pressure because
Speaker 1: he's not in the right leverage. You know, he had
Speaker 1: the p I. I think he had a really solid game,
Speaker 1: and I think some of that kind of inconsistency in
Speaker 1: his play stems from the fact that he's doing so much.
Speaker 1: He's doing so much he can't detail up on when
Speaker 1: I'm in the slot, I gotta be inside leverage versus pressure,
Speaker 1: like and that'll come, you know that that'll come as
Speaker 1: he gets more comfortable. I think the tennis point like
Speaker 1: it does. It makes it hard, makes it hard for
Speaker 1: him to be successful right when.
Speaker 2: They game plan and during the season, they will be
Speaker 2: like qun this week, this is this is what you
Speaker 2: focus on the whole time.
Speaker 3: I know, right, not going home for him.
Speaker 2: Listen, he ain't getting no going home all right.
Speaker 1: So mine is Chase Young and I know only played
Speaker 1: like four snaps, but that pastorously ahead on Judgrick Wills,
Speaker 1: And I know this is probably a huge over he's
Speaker 1: a player, Yeah, huge, like you know, kind of projection,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Like that rush looked
Speaker 1: like an NFL big boy rush that you saw in college. Right,
Speaker 1: He's defeating the inside hand of the tackle, stab in
Speaker 1: the outside hand, gets him on his heel, sheds off
Speaker 1: good hit on the quarterback. And if that's any other
Speaker 1: quarterback besides Sean Watson, who has maybe the best contact
Speaker 1: balance in the NFL of a quarterback, he's getting him down.
Speaker 1: And so to see that in the first game back,
Speaker 1: no stutter step, no pity pat, no weird wide angles,
Speaker 1: Like I'm here to play. And I was like if
Speaker 1: and so I'm intrigued by that because I got to
Speaker 1: see more. Right, so this joint practice, I want to
Speaker 1: see what that looks like. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But like that was that was impressive to me.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, And I sat here and saw two
Speaker 3: of those. I'm like, get him out of the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, showed me.
Speaker 3: He showed me enough. Right now, I don't want to
Speaker 3: see no more. Take because you want to. You want
Speaker 3: to see the explosiveness. You want to see his the arizon.
Speaker 2: I want to see that.
Speaker 3: You want to see the come, you want to see
Speaker 3: the confidence, back, and then you want to see that
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna be a disrupted I talk so much
Speaker 3: about him disrupting things. It's gonna be fun to see
Speaker 3: the other guy's feet off what he brings.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to see him splatter Coke McCoy all field.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, that's the only thing
Speaker 4: that matters to me is getting everybody healthy for their game.
Speaker 4: It basically, don't ever sleep on Coke McCoy. Cokee gonna
Speaker 4: be ready to play. I know everybody looking at Arizona
Speaker 4: like they already oh and seventeen, but I'm sorry, they're
Speaker 4: gonna come to play week. We want everybody's usually healthy
Speaker 4: and gonna give you their best shot. So at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, we have to be ready for that.
Speaker 4: So this is when I won't chase on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I'm intrigued by that. And again like
Speaker 1: you got the stinger or whatever, But I want to
Speaker 1: see I want to see that. I want to see it.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he plays a little bit in the next
Speaker 1: preseason game. I don't know. We're gonna get to no.
Speaker 2: No a stinger this short week.
Speaker 4: I would think they will say, see, can you practice
Speaker 4: with the closed and not that don't worry about the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a good point. All right. So
Speaker 1: now we've kind of talked about this a little bit already,
Speaker 1: but I think it's good to kind of flush this
Speaker 1: out completely. Let's talk about bubble watch. Yeah, guys that
Speaker 1: kind of said, hey, they helped, their help their argument
Speaker 1: for making the team. And I don't know, do you
Speaker 1: want to start, Fred Like.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I start, And I ain't got one player,
Speaker 4: I got two positions.
Speaker 1: I'm talking all right. I don't even I don't know
Speaker 1: where you're going.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, Bubble players like the one thing
Speaker 4: we know about good football team.
Speaker 2: They cut good football players. They're just part of the thing.
Speaker 2: I look at that wide receiver group, how many do
Speaker 2: we keep? Six?
Speaker 1: Seven? Maybe if it's a returner, like, it's gonna be yeah,
Speaker 1: six or seven.
Speaker 4: So let's talk about the first four Terry John Curtis Dimie.
Speaker 2: I ain't but two other spots.
Speaker 4: If you're going six, yeah, and if you're going seven,
Speaker 4: I understand that seven guy might be just special teams
Speaker 4: all the way. So Pringle, you bring him in here.
Speaker 4: He's the guy that knows the offense better than anybody.
Speaker 4: He's also a special team player. You got Tinsley, a
Speaker 4: guy that's been sticking out, been making plays. He also
Speaker 4: falls under it that label of tall receivers, so he's
Speaker 4: different than the other receivers. Who else we got logan
Speaker 4: it while I receive with it.
Speaker 1: We've got Dax. He has been the most productive guy.
Speaker 1: He's great outside of the top four, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so like, and it's and to your point,
Speaker 1: it's more than just how good of a receiver if
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 4: Then, while financial kid, he's squeezed on this roster. We're
Speaker 4: talking three spots, six receivers.
Speaker 1: Yes, three spots what so so and the guys you
Speaker 1: just mentioned. I think Pringle he feels like he's getting
Speaker 1: more of a lock every day. Right and then, so
Speaker 1: Tinsley's name has come up a couple of times. I
Speaker 1: think he's a good football player, but I probably would
Speaker 1: keep Dax over Tinsley right now, and then I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I think Casmir Allen's a guy because of
Speaker 1: that returnability who probably squeaks into the roster. Now, if
Speaker 1: you're a fan and you're listening this, like, keep an
Speaker 1: eye on who's returning kicks in the preseason because he do.
Speaker 1: We were watching practice on Monday and the guys that
Speaker 1: are back there are Dack's Mill and Casmear Allen, So like,
Speaker 1: I don't want Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're making it clear and then they throw you hunt
Speaker 2: and there for emergency. But other than that, they saying
Speaker 2: who wants the job, go grab the job.
Speaker 4: And I find it very like bubble like because I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: we're gonna cut some players that ain't gonna be able
Speaker 4: to get on that some other team is gonna pick
Speaker 4: them guys off. And I think the defensive back room
Speaker 4: mimixed it when it comes to the bottom up because
Speaker 4: we got a heavy top and I and I put
Speaker 4: Danny Johnson part of that top.
Speaker 1: This is one of those yeah, who you got, so
Speaker 1: let's just review we got so receivers. I thought that
Speaker 1: was a really good breakdown. But the other guy like,
Speaker 1: for receivers, let's just finish this real quick. Kempt too.
Speaker 1: I forget about can he sticks out me a good
Speaker 1: special teams player like, and he's had a good last
Speaker 1: couple of days. So that room, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. It just feels like they got
Speaker 1: to keep seven because there's a lot of good football
Speaker 1: players there, but somebody is going to be upset.
Speaker 4: You keep seven because of the tight end room. Maybe
Speaker 4: maybe you keep seven because of the tight end room.
Speaker 4: And that's why I said the rec room mimics the
Speaker 4: dB room. You top heavy with guys you know you keep,
Speaker 4: you keep it full of You're keeping Saint Juice, You're
Speaker 4: keeping Phillips and Danny Johnson.
Speaker 1: Okay, you think Danny Johnson's in there.
Speaker 4: You just signed him to a contract. He held it
Speaker 4: down at the end of last year. He's shown you
Speaker 4: every time you need me, I'll be there. He's the
Speaker 4: guy you trust because it's all about trust. With Jack
Speaker 4: Dale Rio, it's all about trust.
Speaker 2: They go your four? How many are we keeping six?
Speaker 1: Because don't forget the safeties.
Speaker 2: We got only safety now, hic go your peace. Quan
Speaker 2: Martin's your fields.
Speaker 4: He's your tweener because he played. He can take a
Speaker 4: safety spot. He can take a coner spot. Now, is
Speaker 4: it Christian Holmes? I think it is Wow Goose is
Speaker 4: he like like it's guy?
Speaker 1: But I think just like the receiver room where it's
Speaker 1: Kasmi Allen probably because of that returnability. I think you
Speaker 1: say who's starting on Gunner and it's Christian Holmes, Like,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say he's one hundred percent lock,
Speaker 1: but I'm like ninety eight percent certain that he's going
Speaker 1: to be locked in there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what do you think that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so like, so I think those it's a really
Speaker 1: good breakdown of those two groups. The other one I
Speaker 1: think is interesting to watch is the defensive line group
Speaker 1: because Andre Jones has kind of come on the last
Speaker 1: KI so he looks like a pass rush yeah, and
Speaker 1: so like, do you keep ten there? They kept ten
Speaker 1: last year for most of the year, but Chase was hurt,
Speaker 1: so like you're keeping kind of an insurance thing, Like
Speaker 1: all right, but tam me.
Speaker 2: We go to star and four we know ye, so
Speaker 2: four and.
Speaker 1: Then you got Ridgeway, big Phil yep. Right. Then you've
Speaker 1: got a who's been the third rotational guy, James Casey.
Speaker 1: They go nine, nine ninety right now, and so they
Speaker 1: drafted kJ Henry in the fifth round. Andre Jones, I
Speaker 1: feel like has been playing better, So I would probably
Speaker 1: keep Jones, But dude, does he sneak Can you sneak
Speaker 1: him to the practice squad base.
Speaker 2: You can sneak kJ Heary to the place. Really, oh,
Speaker 2: you can sneak Jones Dure.
Speaker 1: All right, I mean that's so to me, that's another
Speaker 1: interesting battle, quite honestly. And then offensive line I think
Speaker 1: would be the other one we got to talk about.
Speaker 1: And offensive line is tough.
Speaker 2: It is offensive line.
Speaker 4: That position because we all know when the preseason ends
Speaker 4: is always one position that they feel like, all right,
Speaker 4: we need to add a becher like.
Speaker 2: It's always that one.
Speaker 4: Either surprised veteran get cut, the surprise veteran gets signed.
Speaker 4: What group I think is offensive line because it's always
Speaker 4: at this time some guy, that veteran that has got
Speaker 4: a high camp number, if somebody wants to shred it
Speaker 4: off comes available. Is the offensive line one in a
Speaker 4: position that they say, you know what, we might need
Speaker 4: to hit a plug and play player to this.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man like that. It's a tough question.
Speaker 1: I mean, you brought Wiley in free agency. I know
Speaker 1: he didn't have the best game, but like Cosmey had
Speaker 1: a good game, Gates had a good game, Chris Paul
Speaker 1: a good game, Leno. I'll give him like a B
Speaker 1: minus C plus good solid game, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like nothing you want to move on from. And I think,
Speaker 1: so all those guys are probably going to be here,
Speaker 1: right then? That makes Sadik your rotational swing guard guy. Right,
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Lucas. I think Tyler Larson's going to
Speaker 1: be here, right Yeah, Lucas, that's eight right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you drafted Stromberg, so he'll be here.
Speaker 2: And he's been playing god lately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he that's three centers you're keeping, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. And then and then who's the other guy?
Speaker 1: Is it Braidon Daniels your fourth round draft pick? Because
Speaker 1: if I'm Montero, I'm pissed about that, because Montero has
Speaker 1: been playing good football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but guess what, this ain't my feelings. This would
Speaker 4: make this so hard coach. You know, you got to
Speaker 4: get to fifty three with no feelings involved. Why asking
Speaker 4: yourself the guys that I cut, can I get them
Speaker 4: to the prae?
Speaker 1: And maybe you can't get to Bradon Daniel's credit. Like
Speaker 1: everyone I've heard, you know, the media in the local
Speaker 1: area has been getting on him a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a good game.
Speaker 2: No he didn't.
Speaker 1: He played well.
Speaker 4: He might be one of those players where he plays
Speaker 4: better in games than he does practice.
Speaker 2: We see a lot of players like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So that is I think a pretty comprehensive
Speaker 1: preseason recap of Game one. Right, So let's look ahead
Speaker 1: a little bit to these joint practices against Baltimore. Yeah, okay, what,
Speaker 1: let's just talk about this kind of high lovel You've
Speaker 1: been on a whole bunch of joint practices and China both.
Speaker 1: What do you get out of these joint practices and
Speaker 1: getting nothing?
Speaker 3: Now? I know as a player you hate to do them.
Speaker 3: I'm honestly, I enjoyed it while I was out there,
Speaker 3: but you really don't want to. Especially if I got
Speaker 3: to see that guy in the preseason game. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to give him too much of my juice, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I didn't want to go out
Speaker 3: there and give them myself because it's different, you know,
Speaker 3: the temple you try to bring through with practice and
Speaker 3: a game. It's totally different.
Speaker 2: In practice.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sure I make it through injury free,
Speaker 3: not trying to do too much. When it's time to go.
Speaker 3: It's time to go in the preseason game, rather it's
Speaker 3: preseason and regular season, especially if I'm playing, all the
Speaker 3: marbles go out, you know what I mean, I'm going
Speaker 3: full blast for a tempo. So I used to look
Speaker 3: at those those joint practices as hey, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: out here and get my practice on, get my reps in.
Speaker 3: But when I'm going against these other guys, I wanted
Speaker 3: to be generic. It's all outdoors. I don't want to
Speaker 3: I don't want to go out here and give them
Speaker 3: a stud of goal or know one of my best routes.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that he thinks he almost
Speaker 3: thinks he can have me. But I want to still
Speaker 3: beat him because I want the fans, Savis fans out there.
Speaker 1: I want to get the win.
Speaker 3: I want to put good stuff on tape, But game time,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be running the same place.
Speaker 1: Well, I love them, I love because I could just
Speaker 1: see you man like friends, mayor everybody.
Speaker 3: It's almost set up for defensive guys to enjoy it more.
Speaker 3: And and Joe officively think about you're you're watching everything
Speaker 3: we do, everything you do. What edge can you get
Speaker 3: on me next time you see me?
Speaker 2: And I'm studying every I don't get that from my
Speaker 2: audi I'm studying how you walk, how you talk, how
Speaker 2: you respond to certain things. I'm even watching defensive players
Speaker 2: from the other team.
Speaker 4: I am soaking the whole situation up, like and that's
Speaker 4: why I love going to Baltimore, because you got to realize,
Speaker 4: this is the time of Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Jamal Lewis,
Speaker 4: Derek Mason, who don't get no props. They were one
Speaker 4: of the best wide receivers in the league. So at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I was studying habits, I
Speaker 4: was studying everything. I was studying Joe Flecko and George
Speaker 4: Joe's back though he actually in the league. What did
Speaker 4: you say about Joe? And if you ever want to
Speaker 4: stay in the league, called Joe Flaco. Play a game
Speaker 4: against Joe Flaco and you got a chair. I called
Speaker 4: him Joe Fleck the verdict because you know what I'm
Speaker 4: just telling you, Because Joe, you know how somebody good
Speaker 4: at something but.
Speaker 2: Don't love it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like always gave me that Ooh, I could
Speaker 4: throw this thing in ninety yards, but I would rather
Speaker 4: be golf.
Speaker 2: He's always gave me that.
Speaker 4: You know what, very talented kind of Jeff George's because
Speaker 4: Jeff George was my first quarterback. Jeff was supremely talented.
Speaker 4: No throw he couldn't make. Jeff just didn't just didn't
Speaker 4: love it like I love it.
Speaker 3: Didn't care he can do it.
Speaker 1: But you said you picked him off at McDonald's one time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, after he signed that big contract, a
Speaker 4: couple hundred million. You know he went to McDonald's. He
Speaker 4: didn't know I was the one that I was. I
Speaker 4: was in line right behind, ran snatch that thing, jumped
Speaker 4: in my pickup truck and headed back to BA.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 2: Realize I am a guy they picked off every man
Speaker 2: in sip Archie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be really old if you picked off Archie.
Speaker 1: But maybe if I thought, maybe, like when you first
Speaker 1: hold that story you started every manning, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: did you pick him up like a barbecue or something.
Speaker 2: No, No, I picked off every man in payn.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get you like hanging out Archie more.
Speaker 1: And like when he's like throwing throwing somebody out.
Speaker 4: See I'm gonna catch me in the grocery store trying
Speaker 4: to reach for the breathe and you just pick him up,
Speaker 4: pick him up and keep running.
Speaker 1: That's the good idea. It's so funny here you guys
Speaker 1: talk about joint practice. I found joint practices to be
Speaker 1: like insanely stressful, and obviously my role is a little
Speaker 1: bit different. I was trying to make the team, and
Speaker 1: I always felt like there was this weird kind of
Speaker 1: like what is the tempo of the first day? Because
Speaker 1: I was who practiced too hard?
Speaker 2: Crazy hard time, like you would have got it defensively as.
Speaker 1: Hate oh God, like hat you remember Uncle Kid.
Speaker 2: I remember Uncle ke Kendrick Ghost, and.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, what are you doing? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make the team. He's like, you're
Speaker 1: trying too hard.
Speaker 4: He can't tell the person to stop because him in
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Alexander the one man game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will, they will push you to the limited.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's why I came up with. So
Speaker 1: that was the standard, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: me and him and so for Kendrick to tell you
Speaker 1: that you're practicing too hard, you're probably practicing too hard,
Speaker 1: right See.
Speaker 4: The type gap probably was in Salmon and Salm catch
Speaker 4: a scene route and run over a Kona like and
Speaker 4: we Salmo say album, well bro to.
Speaker 1: To be fair to me. Yeah, So like I came
Speaker 1: up with Laron Landry here yeah and Laron Landry no,
Speaker 1: no nonsense, would tackle you to the ground in seven.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so those were the people I was practicing with.
Speaker 1: So if I didn't practice hard, like I was gonna
Speaker 1: get my knee took out by Lauran coming in from
Speaker 1: depth and trying to slice me down. Most so people
Speaker 1: like they don't get like, look why you practice hard.
Speaker 1: It's like that's just was the environment that I came
Speaker 1: up in. But anyway, back to joint practice, so I
Speaker 1: was always like how hard should I practice? And I
Speaker 1: didn't like that I couldn't go as hard as like yeah,
Speaker 1: and like where are we at? And then eventually someone
Speaker 1: would kind of do something to me and I'd be
Speaker 1: like that's nonsense, and I try to get that guy back,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of ramps up and then you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I was the guy that
Speaker 1: was stirring the fight stuff, because like you know, you
Speaker 1: never want to get beat. You're always trying to make
Speaker 1: the team you get.
Speaker 4: We talk about in the defensive meeting, you know what
Speaker 4: that eighty two we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna miss
Speaker 4: him up.
Speaker 2: Everybody talks him on the ground till Mara, you know what,
Speaker 2: he's running it out red, I'm gonna cut him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's how it was for me.
Speaker 1: And I was always like, you know, what's the temple?
Speaker 1: Who's So that was always really stressful because again, you're
Speaker 1: trying to make the team. You don't I told you
Speaker 1: don't want to look bad as the other side.
Speaker 4: So who's the logan pulsing on the team right now? Man,
Speaker 4: it just didn't mind saying that their team don't like him,
Speaker 4: but he refused. He relentless, He reviewed these up because
Speaker 4: all that metal him is getting this year in his league.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to say Bates because I like Baits and
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got a little bit of that
Speaker 1: to him. You know, I was watching nine on seven
Speaker 1: the other day and Bates is getting a little I
Speaker 1: can see that. But I think he's a little bit
Speaker 1: more chill than me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: because he's he's like more established on the roster, but
Speaker 1: he's generation what this gen z. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: probably chilling chill than you. But yeah, like a guy
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is like Casey two Hill, that
Speaker 1: dude's going I love to an hour.
Speaker 2: I love him, I love it. I would say he's
Speaker 2: the new logan Posse two changs.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so obviously that's kind of our experience
Speaker 1: with joint practices. What is specifically practicing against Baltimore bringing
Speaker 1: for us physicality.
Speaker 4: That's the one thing you get out of the Ravens
Speaker 4: what we call you will swap paint.
Speaker 2: It will be black marks on your burgundy in goals like.
Speaker 4: That's what you know, physicality, And you love being around
Speaker 4: another coach like Habbah it's gonna push you to the back,
Speaker 4: and that believes in every little thing because he started
Speaker 4: off a special team coach, so special teams is his thing.
Speaker 4: So you know you're gonna get special teams rep That
Speaker 4: what I already remember going up there.
Speaker 2: Special team coach Smitty used to be.
Speaker 4: Always be like, Oh, we're gonna get this working, this serious,
Speaker 4: special teams working.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what I mean. That's first and
Speaker 3: foremost to me. You know, that's one of the reasons
Speaker 3: why I didn't I didn't like the joint practices just knowing,
Speaker 3: especially knowing your opponent, knowing how we go at you know,
Speaker 3: go about our business. If you're going against one of
Speaker 3: those teams that's gonna you know, it's not easy to
Speaker 3: practice against because their level of and you know their
Speaker 3: intensity might be a little higher than yours, and you
Speaker 3: just know you gotta you know, call it what it is,
Speaker 3: Spader Bingo. You know what you bring to the table
Speaker 3: as a team, as a unit, and it might be
Speaker 3: individuals that go hard. Logan just talked about.
Speaker 2: How he goes.
Speaker 3: You know, iw went hard, went out to go to
Speaker 3: everyone don't have that same mindset. So when you go
Speaker 3: against a team like Baltimore, you're gonna be measured as
Speaker 3: a team and you can win all you want to
Speaker 3: and look good on one player too, But if if
Speaker 3: the offense lose that rep, we all look bad. No
Speaker 3: matter what I did on that route, the ball can't
Speaker 3: get to me.
Speaker 1: Then we as a.
Speaker 4: Team practice Ray Luke coming after Tunnel. It's serious and practice.
Speaker 3: But I just feel like this is really going to
Speaker 3: be a chance for us to measure where we're at.
Speaker 3: You know, we say that we're a better defense because
Speaker 3: we're ranked high. Now can we be that same defense
Speaker 3: this year. Are we on the level of a Baltimore
Speaker 3: when they've shown you year after year after year they've
Speaker 3: been known for their defense alone, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a measuring stick, you know, for us,
Speaker 3: just to see who we have and where we measure
Speaker 3: against the best of the best.
Speaker 1: So real quick fallo up. What does winning the week
Speaker 1: look like?
Speaker 3: When the week is man, just just having a good practice, Man,
Speaker 3: don't don't look at it more than what we do
Speaker 3: out here. I think a lot of guys get caught
Speaker 3: up into saying that's what I was.
Speaker 2: That was my point.
Speaker 3: I was trying to make my I didn't look at
Speaker 3: the joint practice. Ass Oh man, this I got to
Speaker 3: go out here and do you know, make make you know,
Speaker 3: be a world beater or No. I wanted to go
Speaker 3: out there and get the same work I put in
Speaker 3: against my guys, but just know I'm boring against a
Speaker 3: different guy. So I have to make sure I win
Speaker 3: it because I don't want him going home thinking that,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I can lock tenn up. Like I said,
Speaker 3: it's hard to your receiver and not showed them something.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you can do what
Speaker 3: you do in practice every day against these other guys
Speaker 3: in practice, then you should be able to say that's
Speaker 3: a win for me. I got out of practice without
Speaker 3: doing too much, and I didn't have to, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, use too much of my muscle to get
Speaker 3: it get it done.
Speaker 1: I wish I would I asked you about that when
Speaker 1: I was playing, because I was always going. I was
Speaker 1: trying to like win the day every day. But like
Speaker 1: it's it's I think that's a really.
Speaker 2: Healthy way to gott to leave band aid free.
Speaker 1: It's the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to say, you know what we competed,
Speaker 4: it was just his physicals dem and we left here.
Speaker 2: How we came in. We left here healthy.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that matters. So I know, like
Speaker 1: coaches will be like, oh, like this is actually something
Speaker 1: I was going to spring up. So I remember when
Speaker 1: we had a first showing practice, or my first showing
Speaker 1: practice was against New England, and I remember there or no,
Speaker 1: it was against the Texans, and they were like, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna, yeah, sacked up. I was singing
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, but Bill O'Brien was not with the Patriots
Speaker 1: at the time, and he goes and he goes, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we're gonna help each other out. We're gonna be able,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah great. And at the time they were
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, the Houston Texas were Yeah. So they
Speaker 1: come out first day and we lose the day, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's not a good practice, a lot of interceptions,
Speaker 1: we're getting kind of beat up, a lot of tackles.
Speaker 1: So Ja comes in the me he's like, hey, man, like,
Speaker 1: we're not about that. We gotta we're winning tomorrow. So
Speaker 1: next day we're out there like it's you think it's
Speaker 1: a live game, Like you are getting tackled, fullbacks are
Speaker 1: cutting people, and it was just like whoa. And so
Speaker 1: then on Hard Knocks that night, Bill O'Brien's like, guys, like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like they're embarrassing you. And it
Speaker 1: just kept ramping up. And so the third day it's
Speaker 1: a full brawl ilm. It's all people punching each other.
Speaker 1: But I think, to your point, Tanna, like it takes
Speaker 1: a mature coach to be like, hey man, are we
Speaker 1: getting good practice in yes or no? Because I can't
Speaker 1: get into that brawl state and just doing everything.
Speaker 3: And I hate to say that, but I'm glad you
Speaker 3: brought it up, because that's what normally happens. You going
Speaker 3: out there trying to be productive, and the coaches getting
Speaker 3: in they like.
Speaker 2: We didn't look good.
Speaker 3: They you know, they want on today as a team,
Speaker 3: were going out to tomorrow, and we gotta go out
Speaker 3: here and almost brawl just to make a bra because
Speaker 3: I can tell you when we did that with New England,
Speaker 3: I was laughing about it because it had me in
Speaker 3: a sense like, oh so we really that much better
Speaker 3: than y'all, and y'all can feel it, and we're not
Speaker 3: even looking like y'all, y'all look militant. I mean, everything
Speaker 3: y'all did was whistle blow. Guy was flying, he was walking.
Speaker 2: Eh what I guess.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to get him out of this. But you know,
Speaker 3: we we we we shooting there, you know what, and
Speaker 3: these guys are over there sprint and then we.
Speaker 2: Gotta feel you know.
Speaker 3: One guy held me, one of the guys he helped me,
Speaker 3: and I still caught the ball and and I was
Speaker 3: like heron hold me no more. Then you see a
Speaker 3: dB wight over there, Oh.
Speaker 1: Listen to him.
Speaker 3: You can hold them all you want to, I said, well,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna never hold me because I'm running by.
Speaker 2: You all day.
Speaker 3: And then it how you all rows you like he
Speaker 3: was mad, just because it's like I still caught that
Speaker 3: past and Pierre in his ear like, don't worry about
Speaker 3: the o G I got him.
Speaker 2: You don't understand I saw Pierre was.
Speaker 3: But that just shows you how the practices go from
Speaker 3: you just trying to be productive man, get in and
Speaker 3: out of it. I'm just telling a guy don't hold
Speaker 3: me because I'm not trying to put no hamstream. I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to be doing his extra work just to
Speaker 3: catch the ball on you. When I'm gonna catch the
Speaker 3: ball on you. Your beat already, and it gets wrapped
Speaker 3: up because somebody in their feelings, one of them coaches
Speaker 3: might say, I don't like the way he talked to
Speaker 3: your players. And then now tomorrow I got to come
Speaker 3: out here in a game and tell me something.
Speaker 4: When we get into it with the coaches, see, I
Speaker 4: usually stay into it with the where I received, become
Speaker 4: yeppy that I'm getting none of their team.
Speaker 2: Senior beast said me, what you got over there?
Speaker 4: So it just it's it's melt too in physical warfare
Speaker 4: and I think that's why I enjoyed it, and we
Speaker 4: talking a long time, guys.
Speaker 2: Y'all really got some diarrhea of the mouth today, y'all practices.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's it all done now, Thanks Fred, right,
Speaker 1: make sure I don't make the news. I know. Thank you, Fred.
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