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Speaker 1: All right. On today's show, we got preseason game one recap,

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Speaker 1: we got MVPs, we got intriguing bubble watch, and I

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Speaker 1: think Fredie did a great job going through that. We're

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Speaker 1: also looking ahead to the joint practices and fred you

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Speaker 1: picked off a super Bowl winning quarterback at McDonald's. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you stay tuned for that. Welcome on

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Speaker 1: into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with

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Speaker 1: Santana Mos, who's really got a very excellent fit today.

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Speaker 2: Tanna looking very hollyween.

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Speaker 3: Look at this, I mean orange shoes, orange, I got

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Speaker 3: Mcaros City colors on and orange a chief man.

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Speaker 2: Actually it looks like Baltimore Oriole it does, and they're

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Speaker 2: hot right now. Don't get it twisted, No, I get it.

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Speaker 3: Yoshould have saw us, you know, football season back back

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Speaker 3: when I was in high school. We put on it

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Speaker 3: all black and had that orange coming out man to today,

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Speaker 3: were scared to see you on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: But the other voice on there, excuse me, is Fred Smooth,

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Speaker 1: a guy who probably doesn't need any introduction.

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Speaker 2: Don't introduce me.

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Speaker 1: Did all right? So we just had a preseason game, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did right, so high level thoughts. What you guys

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Speaker 1: seen in that game.

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Speaker 3: It was all right for the start, you know, for

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Speaker 3: the first preseason game. You know, my biggest thing was,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't get too caught up into preseason.

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Speaker 3: I do try to see who's going to be the

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Speaker 3: guy that we can say, Okay, it's gonna make the

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Speaker 3: squad from the young guys. But I wanted to see

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Speaker 3: the ones select the ones. I wanted to see our

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Speaker 3: ones go out there and get their feet weet. It's

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Speaker 3: hard to come out, it's hard to be in you know, preseason.

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Speaker 3: I mean mid season form in the preseason. But I

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Speaker 3: wanted to see them get out there with the amount

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Speaker 3: of players that they was going to be given, be

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Speaker 3: productive enough to have something to build on for the

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Speaker 3: next week. And I think for the for the most part,

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Speaker 3: both sides did that defensive well.

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Speaker 4: First of all, starting this thing off them by the

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Speaker 4: Browns color STU that you win is Hey, the Browns.

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Speaker 4: I think our legit team.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel that way washing them.

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Speaker 2: Listen to me.

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Speaker 4: We know their offensive line s wrong. They can run

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Speaker 4: on anybody to pass somebody. Shun Washington's starting to look

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Speaker 4: like the Shaun Watson. And when you add be scary,

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Speaker 4: Elijah more to that, and you already got them.

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Speaker 2: Marri Cooper.

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Speaker 4: I just thought it was a great measuring stick and

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Speaker 4: it was a physical game, and you know, like I know,

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Speaker 4: we judged from the first man on the roster to

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Speaker 4: the fifty third on the roster, and I seen this

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Speaker 4: team go tick for tat with them, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's a great signal, especially with that division as a whole.

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Speaker 4: That's what I like about us playing this division as

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Speaker 4: a whole. You're playing against good competition. I thought the

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Speaker 4: guys came out to huddle fast. I thought the offense

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Speaker 4: looked sharp. I thought the defense was flying around. I

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Speaker 4: just thought I got more out.

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Speaker 2: Of this far.

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Speaker 4: This We've been starting slow for the last but seventeen years,

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Speaker 4: all right, So at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 4: gave me some hope that we maybe can start fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it did have like a like a

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Speaker 1: go as smooth as they wanted to, I don't think

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Speaker 1: especially those first couple drives, probably the second drive there,

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Speaker 1: like it's it was sharp, the temple was good, and

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Speaker 1: defensively there were some hiccups but they made plays when

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Speaker 1: they had to make plays. Yeah, and we and I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to knowledge, like we all know that

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Speaker 1: not everything's in, but in terms of the player's mindset,

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Speaker 1: it felt like it was at a certain spot that

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Speaker 1: you know, we haven't seen for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, temple is everything too. And I think you

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Speaker 3: take on, you know, the energy from your coaches. You know,

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Speaker 3: we talk about eb and already the kind of tone

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Speaker 3: like you played here with cale them. You saw how

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Speaker 3: tone they set how we need to be. You know,

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Speaker 3: like I said before, I talk about them more than

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Speaker 2: Part of, because I think I never talk about Grooed.

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Speaker 3: That's my last staff really, you know, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Not starting anything. I just never hear him talk about Grooden.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, when we was in Grooten offense and

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Speaker 3: I didn't play in green offense. He didn't want men

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Speaker 3: to play in his offense. So that's why I don't

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Speaker 3: talk about his offense. But cal offense was the offense

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Speaker 3: that I played in more, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Groenen offense was my last year here. You know how

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Speaker 3: did dress up for. But I talk about them because

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Speaker 3: of the tone they sat with the young guys and

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Speaker 3: even the older guys, guys like myself, Like you walk

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Speaker 3: in that office with Mike. Mike gonna let you be

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Speaker 3: a probe, but at the same time he's gonna tell

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Speaker 3: you to a man that hey, you could do what

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Speaker 3: you want, but I need you to do this, and

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Speaker 3: if you ain't like it.

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Speaker 1: He was out the door in the.

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Speaker 3: Same way with Kyle. Kyle was me and Kyle the

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Speaker 3: same age, you know what I mean. So Peter Pierry

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Speaker 3: were sitting there talking at time. Kyle might say, Tana,

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Speaker 3: I need you to go out there and do whatever

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Speaker 3: you're gonna do. You know what I mean, Do this, Tanne,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I need to see it now. So

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Speaker 3: I like those responses from coaches because me as a player,

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Speaker 3: I took him and I didn't take it for granted,

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Speaker 3: So I see that in the offense already going forward

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Speaker 4: That's so funny because you just made me think about

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Speaker 4: who was my best offensive brain trust that I ever

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Speaker 4: played with, and I think it was coach Joe Jackson

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Speaker 4: Gibbs aka.

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Speaker 2: The Joseph Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's funny when you talk about Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off, but we talked about Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: There's this very similar philosophy to Kyle. Right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have these runs. We're gonna change them up a little

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Speaker 1: bit by the formation each week, but these are the

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Speaker 1: ones we're gonna get to. We're gonna have some type

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Speaker 1: of passing game off of it with a little bit

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Speaker 1: of play action work. And again that was really cutting

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Speaker 1: edge when he was in the league. Like that action idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like a totally new thing. So it is.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting because like his preparation, Gibbs, from what

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Speaker 1: you've said, it seems to mirror Kyle's.

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Speaker 4: Almost definitely does. And you gotta realize that his early years,

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Speaker 4: I ain't that old. I didn't play with him when

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Speaker 4: they was winning the Super Bowl, but he was the

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Speaker 4: one that really opened it up to the three and

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Speaker 4: four wide out between him and Houston.

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Speaker 2: Allis they was the one.

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Speaker 4: That spread it out, not only spread it out to

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Speaker 4: And I think that was different than I think that

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Speaker 4: would change the game with coach Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely, I mean totaldred percent. So we got a

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Speaker 1: little fun game coming up here to kind of help

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Speaker 1: us review the roster a little bit. Right, So this

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Speaker 1: is preseason game one recap, and we're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have four categories, MVP, Surprise, Standout, ooh, Intriguing,

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Speaker 1: and bubble Watch. Okay, so we're gonna have categories for

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Speaker 1: each one. We're gonna start with MVP. We'll least go

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Speaker 1: around and kind of say who our MVP of the

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Speaker 1: game was, Fred, I know you want to start, So.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go with Young Airwolf.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go with Sam Howe because you know what, I

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Speaker 4: don't need him to throw for two hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: I need him to look the part.

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Speaker 4: I need him to be comfortable, and I need him

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Speaker 4: to show that nothing ralizes him. And he showed he

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Speaker 4: all three of those things. I felt like the office

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Speaker 4: looked like an offense. You know how I'm not throwing

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Speaker 4: in the shade here, but Carson wentz Heineke.

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Speaker 2: It was always an if, but like it was always

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Speaker 4: And always I was just waiting for something bad to

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Speaker 4: have it, Like I'm sorry, I was like a feeling

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Speaker 4: in my stomach with him, with Sam and just feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's only gonna.

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Speaker 2: Get better from here.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, I definitely agree. I don't even want

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Speaker 3: to pick someone because I feel like, you know, Sam

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Speaker 3: you know, m VPS that night, everyone probably who came

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Speaker 3: to see Sam, which I know all our fan base,

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Speaker 3: did you know they would have went home please saying

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Speaker 3: hey we got somebody we can work with. That guy,

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Speaker 3: loved about his play more than anything is to see

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Speaker 3: us put in the situation that you want to see,

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Speaker 3: situation of football where okay, we didn't go out there

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Speaker 3: and play well in that second series, you know, I

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Speaker 3: mean we got backed up and we got off the field.

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Speaker 3: Third series came out there and drove down the field

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Speaker 3: and scored a touchdown. So stuff like that. It's meaningful

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Speaker 3: to me as a receiver, just knowing that, Okay, that

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Speaker 3: he didn't sit there and dwell in the moment and say, damn,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean with this preseason, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to hear him get out of his game. No, he

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Speaker 3: was eager to go out there and make a difference

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Speaker 4: You know what, I got an MVP for this game,

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Speaker 4: and I think it was truly an MVP moment.

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Speaker 2: The owner, Josh Harris.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, listen in the stands in the rain

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Speaker 4: with his son and when they interviewed him, how do

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Speaker 4: you feel, first true interview, first game?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the new ownership of the team?

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Speaker 2: You like, I don't own this team, the city on

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Speaker 2: this team, like the people on this team. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: not MVP.

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Speaker 1: I was talking someone the other day about that, Like

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Speaker 1: it felt like I as a as a player, like

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Speaker 1: if I had seen the owner in the rain sitting

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Speaker 1: in it wasn't like he was in like.

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Speaker 2: A broke box. It wasn't nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Browns fan was sitting right behind him here,

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Speaker 3: I saw him do an interview on Instagram with one

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Speaker 3: of our biggest fans and followers, the road warrioror you know,

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Speaker 3: you know how you know what? He was on his

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Speaker 3: Instagram pace doing an interview with him. Like, to me,

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Speaker 3: that's accessibility. It's so different if you talking about getting

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Speaker 3: fans to come back and be a part of what

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Speaker 3: I mean just off of that alone. I mean one

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Speaker 3: a great problem to have for us offensively. Who were

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be a sam Hoile thing.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why in my head, I just

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Speaker 4: I want to give him a chance, but I need

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Speaker 1: In this defense, yeah absolutely, Okay, So yeah, defense minded.

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Speaker 4: But I tell you I got ran over by bad

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Speaker 1: And so probably that fourth year.

438
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Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's not too long ago.

439
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Speaker 4: Good still looks saying Steve Buffets, he's still.

440
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Speaker 2: In the breast.

441
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's uh, that's a that's a

442
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,639
Speaker 1: good guy to call out. Also, Okay, this next one

443
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Speaker 1: I think is kind of fun intriguing. Who would you

444
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Speaker 1: think fits in this category? If you want, I can

445
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Speaker 1: go first to.

446
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Speaker 2: Get could you say I'm gonna go first.

447
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Speaker 3: You took one, you took one. I'm gonna take this Okay, Yes,

448
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Speaker 3: I'm going with my man cash man Allen Oh all right.

449
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 3: Like and we talked about, you know, just saying his

450
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Speaker 3: name a lot so far as you have said a lot.

451
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Speaker 3: But I have to say he intrigued me. He showed

452
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Speaker 3: me I was looking at the punk return position. You know,

453
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Speaker 3: me and Logan. Logan wanted to beat me up last

454
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Speaker 3: year because of what I said.

455
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Speaker 1: You're you're saying the correct thing.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're abusive sometimes.

457
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Speaker 3: With me and I say logan, I won't hit you

458
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Speaker 3: in unless.

459
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 2: You hit me, so we never feeling stuff, he said.

460
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Speaker 3: But no, honestly, you know when you when you're watching

461
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Speaker 3: these guys. I was one of those guys when we played.

462
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Speaker 3: I paid close attention to the young guys. I could

463
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Speaker 3: tell you every year, whos gonna make the squad? Who's

464
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Speaker 3: that guy that's gonna make the squad. I'm not saying

465
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Speaker 3: that right now with cash mare Allen, but I say

466
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,359
Speaker 3: he raised my eyebrows just knowing that we need a

467
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Speaker 3: difference maker at the punt return or return special period.

468
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Speaker 3: We need a guy who's going to be able to

469
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Speaker 3: be able to score the ball. You know one thing

470
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Speaker 3: about catching the ball. That's fine and Danny, but you're

471
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Speaker 3: in the pros need to if you back there, you

472
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 3: should catch them all. It should know how at least

473
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Speaker 3: I need a guy that's going to get us a

474
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Speaker 3: first down that point return, and and and and when.

475
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 3: If he's back there as a return specialist on the

476
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Speaker 3: kick return, he knows how to decipher those guys who's

477
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Speaker 3: coming down full full steam ahead and get get a

478
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Speaker 3: couple of at least get us to the twenty yeah

479
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Speaker 3: or beyond. So he showed that he can do that,

480
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 3: and I think Cashmere has kind of put that mark,

481
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, and say, hey, coaches, you know when you

482
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Speaker 3: put me in back here, I'm gonna do my job.

483
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Speaker 1: Now.

484
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Speaker 3: I want to see what he can do going for

485
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Speaker 3: as a receiver, but specialists right now, return specialists. He

486
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Speaker 3: raised mind bros.

487
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Speaker 2: Well first of all, logan, give me a ooh intriguing.

488
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Speaker 1: Ooh intriguing, Why thank you?

489
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Speaker 4: I will go personally with this guy, rich honey Kwan Martins.

490
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Speaker 2: Alright.

491
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Speaker 4: I watched him play safety, I watched him play nickel,

492
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 4: I watched him play corner. I see they're just they're

493
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Speaker 4: throwing the whole playbook at him, and it's intriguing because

494
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 4: they setting it up. I'm not saying he's gonna be

495
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Speaker 4: this player, but I'm saying they are setting him up

496
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Speaker 4: to be the future, to have this type of uh

497
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Speaker 4: I think footprint and fingerprint on this team. They setting

498
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Speaker 4: him up to be very honey Badger like, the setting

499
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Speaker 4: him up to be the guy in one or two

500
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Speaker 4: years that to see what we're in you're gonna have

501
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 4: to find him. He's the guy that can go down

502
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: play big nilklek. He can play a regular nikle safety

503
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, corner, outside corner. I

504
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 4: think that's I know, they're giving him a lot on

505
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Speaker 4: his plate, so he might he might not, you know,

506
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Speaker 4: be giving us a lot this year. I think they

507
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Speaker 4: setting him up for long term success, and that's very

508
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Speaker 4: intriguing him.

509
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up. I want to ask you,

510
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Speaker 3: do you think that would stunt his growth, being that

511
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Speaker 3: he got so much on his plate? You know what

512
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Speaker 3: I mean, because I hate to see a young.

513
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Speaker 2: Guy thinking too much.

514
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Speaker 3: You get me when you think, you know what I mean,

515
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Speaker 3: You can't think in this game. So I was going

516
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Speaker 3: to ask you that. When I watched the game, i'mine,

517
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Speaker 3: you can see that he has the talent. But do

518
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Speaker 3: you think that they putting too much on the plate

519
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Speaker 3: so early?

520
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Speaker 4: So think they are because I think they got a

521
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Speaker 4: plan for it, and they know for a fact, because

522
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 4: of the guys we have in front of him, he

523
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 4: don't have to play right now. So they're making sure

524
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 4: all right when you do play, whoever goes down you

525
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 4: to peel ain't got a feel you to do. And

526
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 4: we want you to be ridy for all fur of

527
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Speaker 4: these positions. And I think they're going to slow slow

528
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Speaker 4: roll him, slow cook him, rotissary staff.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm also glad you brought him up because I think

530
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Speaker 1: a lot of people say, oh, he gave up a

531
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Speaker 1: touchdown on that first kind of all out pressure because

532
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Speaker 1: he's not in the right leverage. You know, he had

533
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Speaker 1: the p I. I think he had a really solid game,

534
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Speaker 1: and I think some of that kind of inconsistency in

535
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Speaker 1: his play stems from the fact that he's doing so much.

536
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Speaker 1: He's doing so much he can't detail up on when

537
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Speaker 1: I'm in the slot, I gotta be inside leverage versus pressure,

538
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: like and that'll come, you know that that'll come as

539
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: he gets more comfortable. I think the tennis point like

540
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Speaker 1: it does. It makes it hard, makes it hard for

541
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Speaker 1: him to be successful right when.

542
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Speaker 2: They game plan and during the season, they will be

543
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Speaker 2: like qun this week, this is this is what you

544
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Speaker 2: focus on the whole time.

545
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Speaker 3: I know, right, not going home for him.

546
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: Listen, he ain't getting no going home all right.

547
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Speaker 1: So mine is Chase Young and I know only played

548
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: like four snaps, but that pastorously ahead on Judgrick Wills,

549
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Speaker 1: And I know this is probably a huge over he's

550
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Speaker 1: a player, Yeah, huge, like you know, kind of projection,

551
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Like that rush looked

552
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: like an NFL big boy rush that you saw in college. Right,

553
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: He's defeating the inside hand of the tackle, stab in

554
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: the outside hand, gets him on his heel, sheds off

555
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: good hit on the quarterback. And if that's any other

556
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: quarterback besides Sean Watson, who has maybe the best contact

557
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: balance in the NFL of a quarterback, he's getting him down.

558
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Speaker 1: And so to see that in the first game back,

559
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: no stutter step, no pity pat, no weird wide angles,

560
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Speaker 1: Like I'm here to play. And I was like if

561
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Speaker 1: and so I'm intrigued by that because I got to

562
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Speaker 1: see more. Right, so this joint practice, I want to

563
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Speaker 1: see what that looks like. You know what I'm saying,

564
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Speaker 1: But like that was that was impressive to me.

565
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Speaker 3: No, you're right, And I sat here and saw two

566
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Speaker 3: of those. I'm like, get him out of the game.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, showed me.

568
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: He showed me enough. Right now, I don't want to

569
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: see no more. Take because you want to. You want

570
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: to see the explosiveness. You want to see his the arizon.

571
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Speaker 2: I want to see that.

572
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: You want to see the come, you want to see

573
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Speaker 3: the confidence, back, and then you want to see that

574
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna be a disrupted I talk so much

575
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: about him disrupting things. It's gonna be fun to see

576
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: the other guy's feet off what he brings.

577
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm ready to see him splatter Coke McCoy all field.

578
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, that's the only thing

579
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: that matters to me is getting everybody healthy for their game.

580
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 4: It basically, don't ever sleep on Coke McCoy. Cokee gonna

581
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: be ready to play. I know everybody looking at Arizona

582
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: like they already oh and seventeen, but I'm sorry, they're

583
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 4: gonna come to play week. We want everybody's usually healthy

584
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: and gonna give you their best shot. So at the

585
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 4: end of the day, we have to be ready for that.

586
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: So this is when I won't chase on the field.

587
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I'm intrigued by that. And again like

588
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: you got the stinger or whatever, But I want to

589
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: see I want to see that. I want to see it.

590
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he plays a little bit in the next

591
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Speaker 1: preseason game. I don't know. We're gonna get to no.

592
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Speaker 2: No a stinger this short week.

593
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: I would think they will say, see, can you practice

594
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: with the closed and not that don't worry about the game.

595
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a good point. All right. So

596
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: now we've kind of talked about this a little bit already,

597
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: but I think it's good to kind of flush this

598
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: out completely. Let's talk about bubble watch. Yeah, guys that

599
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: kind of said, hey, they helped, their help their argument

600
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: for making the team. And I don't know, do you

601
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: want to start, Fred Like.

602
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I start, And I ain't got one player,

603
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: I got two positions.

604
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm talking all right. I don't even I don't know

605
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: where you're going.

606
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: All right, all right, Bubble players like the one thing

607
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: we know about good football team.

608
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: They cut good football players. They're just part of the thing.

609
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: I look at that wide receiver group, how many do

610
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: we keep? Six?

611
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: Seven? Maybe if it's a returner, like, it's gonna be yeah,

612
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: six or seven.

613
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: So let's talk about the first four Terry John Curtis Dimie.

614
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I ain't but two other spots.

615
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: If you're going six, yeah, and if you're going seven,

616
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: I understand that seven guy might be just special teams

617
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: all the way. So Pringle, you bring him in here.

618
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 4: He's the guy that knows the offense better than anybody.

619
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: He's also a special team player. You got Tinsley, a

620
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: guy that's been sticking out, been making plays. He also

621
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 4: falls under it that label of tall receivers, so he's

622
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: different than the other receivers. Who else we got logan

623
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Speaker 4: it while I receive with it.

624
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: We've got Dax. He has been the most productive guy.

625
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: He's great outside of the top four, you know what

626
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so like, and it's and to your point,

627
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: it's more than just how good of a receiver if

628
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: you are.

629
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Speaker 4: Then, while financial kid, he's squeezed on this roster. We're

630
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Speaker 4: talking three spots, six receivers.

631
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Yes, three spots what so so and the guys you

632
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Speaker 1: just mentioned. I think Pringle he feels like he's getting

633
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: more of a lock every day. Right and then, so

634
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: Tinsley's name has come up a couple of times. I

635
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: think he's a good football player, but I probably would

636
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: keep Dax over Tinsley right now, and then I think

637
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: you're right. I think Casmir Allen's a guy because of

638
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: that returnability who probably squeaks into the roster. Now, if

639
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: you're a fan and you're listening this, like, keep an

640
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: eye on who's returning kicks in the preseason because he do.

641
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: We were watching practice on Monday and the guys that

642
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: are back there are Dack's Mill and Casmear Allen, So like,

643
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: I don't want Yeah.

644
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: They're making it clear and then they throw you hunt

645
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: and there for emergency. But other than that, they saying

646
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: who wants the job, go grab the job.

647
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: And I find it very like bubble like because I'm like, well,

648
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: we're gonna cut some players that ain't gonna be able

649
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: to get on that some other team is gonna pick

650
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: them guys off. And I think the defensive back room

651
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: mimixed it when it comes to the bottom up because

652
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 4: we got a heavy top and I and I put

653
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Speaker 4: Danny Johnson part of that top.

654
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: This is one of those yeah, who you got, so

655
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: let's just review we got so receivers. I thought that

656
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: was a really good breakdown. But the other guy like,

657
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: for receivers, let's just finish this real quick. Kempt too.

658
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I forget about can he sticks out me a good

659
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: special teams player like, and he's had a good last

660
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: couple of days. So that room, I have no idea

661
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. It just feels like they got

662
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: to keep seven because there's a lot of good football

663
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: players there, but somebody is going to be upset.

664
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 4: You keep seven because of the tight end room. Maybe

665
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: maybe you keep seven because of the tight end room.

666
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: And that's why I said the rec room mimics the

667
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: dB room. You top heavy with guys you know you keep,

668
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: you keep it full of You're keeping Saint Juice, You're

669
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: keeping Phillips and Danny Johnson.

670
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: Okay, you think Danny Johnson's in there.

671
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: You just signed him to a contract. He held it

672
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: down at the end of last year. He's shown you

673
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: every time you need me, I'll be there. He's the

674
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: guy you trust because it's all about trust. With Jack

675
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: Dale Rio, it's all about trust.

676
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: They go your four? How many are we keeping six?

677
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: Because don't forget the safeties.

678
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: We got only safety now, hic go your peace. Quan

679
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: Martin's your fields.

680
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: He's your tweener because he played. He can take a

681
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: safety spot. He can take a coner spot. Now, is

682
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: it Christian Holmes? I think it is Wow Goose is

683
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: he like like it's guy?

684
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: But I think just like the receiver room where it's

685
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Kasmi Allen probably because of that returnability. I think you

686
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: say who's starting on Gunner and it's Christian Holmes, Like,

687
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say he's one hundred percent lock,

688
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: but I'm like ninety eight percent certain that he's going

689
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: to be locked in there, you know what I'm saying.

690
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know what do you think that? Yeah?

691
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And so like, so I think those it's a really

692
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: good breakdown of those two groups. The other one I

693
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: think is interesting to watch is the defensive line group

694
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: because Andre Jones has kind of come on the last

695
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: KI so he looks like a pass rush yeah, and

696
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: so like, do you keep ten there? They kept ten

697
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: last year for most of the year, but Chase was hurt,

698
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: so like you're keeping kind of an insurance thing, Like

699
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: all right, but tam me.

700
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: We go to star and four we know ye, so

701
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: four and.

702
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Then you got Ridgeway, big Phil yep. Right. Then you've

703
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: got a who's been the third rotational guy, James Casey.

704
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: They go nine, nine ninety right now, and so they

705
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: drafted kJ Henry in the fifth round. Andre Jones, I

706
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: feel like has been playing better, So I would probably

707
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: keep Jones, But dude, does he sneak Can you sneak

708
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: him to the practice squad base.

709
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: You can sneak kJ Heary to the place. Really, oh,

710
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: you can sneak Jones Dure.

711
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: All right, I mean that's so to me, that's another

712
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: interesting battle, quite honestly. And then offensive line I think

713
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: would be the other one we got to talk about.

714
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: And offensive line is tough.

715
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: It is offensive line.

716
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: That position because we all know when the preseason ends

717
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: is always one position that they feel like, all right,

718
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: we need to add a becher like.

719
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: It's always that one.

720
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: Either surprised veteran get cut, the surprise veteran gets signed.

721
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 4: What group I think is offensive line because it's always

722
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 4: at this time some guy, that veteran that has got

723
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: a high camp number, if somebody wants to shred it

724
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: off comes available. Is the offensive line one in a

725
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: position that they say, you know what, we might need

726
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: to hit a plug and play player to this.

727
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, man like that. It's a tough question.

728
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you brought Wiley in free agency. I know

729
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: he didn't have the best game, but like Cosmey had

730
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: a good game, Gates had a good game, Chris Paul

731
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: a good game, Leno. I'll give him like a B

732
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: minus C plus good solid game, you know what I mean,

733
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: like nothing you want to move on from. And I think,

734
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: so all those guys are probably going to be here,

735
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: right then? That makes Sadik your rotational swing guard guy. Right,

736
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Lucas. I think Tyler Larson's going to

737
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: be here, right Yeah, Lucas, that's eight right there. Yeah,

738
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: and then you drafted Stromberg, so he'll be here.

739
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: And he's been playing god lately.

740
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he that's three centers you're keeping, which

741
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: is crazy. And then and then who's the other guy?

742
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: Is it Braidon Daniels your fourth round draft pick? Because

743
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: if I'm Montero, I'm pissed about that, because Montero has

744
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: been playing good football.

745
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but guess what, this ain't my feelings. This would

746
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 4: make this so hard coach. You know, you got to

747
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: get to fifty three with no feelings involved. Why asking

748
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: yourself the guys that I cut, can I get them

749
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: to the prae?

750
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: And maybe you can't get to Bradon Daniel's credit. Like

751
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: everyone I've heard, you know, the media in the local

752
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: area has been getting on him a little bit. Yeah,

753
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: he had a good game.

754
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: No he didn't.

755
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: He played well.

756
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: He might be one of those players where he plays

757
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: better in games than he does practice.

758
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: We see a lot of players like that.

759
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So that is I think a pretty comprehensive

760
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: preseason recap of Game one. Right, So let's look ahead

761
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: a little bit to these joint practices against Baltimore. Yeah, okay, what,

762
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: let's just talk about this kind of high lovel You've

763
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: been on a whole bunch of joint practices and China both.

764
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: What do you get out of these joint practices and

765
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: getting nothing?

766
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: Now? I know as a player you hate to do them.

767
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: I'm honestly, I enjoyed it while I was out there,

768
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: but you really don't want to. Especially if I got

769
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: to see that guy in the preseason game. I didn't

770
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: want to give him too much of my juice, you

771
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I didn't want to go out

772
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: there and give them myself because it's different, you know,

773
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: the temple you try to bring through with practice and

774
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 3: a game. It's totally different.

775
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: In practice.

776
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sure I make it through injury free,

777
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: not trying to do too much. When it's time to go.

778
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: It's time to go in the preseason game, rather it's

779
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: preseason and regular season, especially if I'm playing, all the

780
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: marbles go out, you know what I mean, I'm going

781
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: full blast for a tempo. So I used to look

782
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: at those those joint practices as hey, I'm gonna go

783
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: out here and get my practice on, get my reps in.

784
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: But when I'm going against these other guys, I wanted

785
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: to be generic. It's all outdoors. I don't want to

786
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to go out here and give them

787
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: a stud of goal or know one of my best routes.

788
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that he thinks he almost

789
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: thinks he can have me. But I want to still

790
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: beat him because I want the fans, Savis fans out there.

791
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I want to get the win.

792
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I want to put good stuff on tape, But game time,

793
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to be running the same place.

794
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Well, I love them, I love because I could just

795
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: see you man like friends, mayor everybody.

796
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: It's almost set up for defensive guys to enjoy it more.

797
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: And and Joe officively think about you're you're watching everything

798
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: we do, everything you do. What edge can you get

799
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: on me next time you see me?

800
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: And I'm studying every I don't get that from my

801
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: audi I'm studying how you walk, how you talk, how

802
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: you respond to certain things. I'm even watching defensive players

803
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: from the other team.

804
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: I am soaking the whole situation up, like and that's

805
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: why I love going to Baltimore, because you got to realize,

806
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: this is the time of Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Jamal Lewis,

807
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: Derek Mason, who don't get no props. They were one

808
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: of the best wide receivers in the league. So at

809
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I was studying habits, I

810
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: was studying everything. I was studying Joe Flecko and George

811
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: Joe's back though he actually in the league. What did

812
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: you say about Joe? And if you ever want to

813
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: stay in the league, called Joe Flaco. Play a game

814
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: against Joe Flaco and you got a chair. I called

815
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: him Joe Fleck the verdict because you know what I'm

816
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: just telling you, Because Joe, you know how somebody good

817
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: at something but.

818
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Don't love it.

819
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Like always gave me that Ooh, I could

820
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: throw this thing in ninety yards, but I would rather

821
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: be golf.

822
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: He's always gave me that.

823
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: You know what, very talented kind of Jeff George's because

824
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: Jeff George was my first quarterback. Jeff was supremely talented.

825
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 4: No throw he couldn't make. Jeff just didn't just didn't

826
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: love it like I love it.

827
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Didn't care he can do it.

828
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: But you said you picked him off at McDonald's one time.

829
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, after he signed that big contract, a

830
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 4: couple hundred million. You know he went to McDonald's. He

831
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: didn't know I was the one that I was. I

832
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: was in line right behind, ran snatch that thing, jumped

833
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: in my pickup truck and headed back to BA.

834
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I love him.

835
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Realize I am a guy they picked off every man

836
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: in sip Archie.

837
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be really old if you picked off Archie.

838
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: But maybe if I thought, maybe, like when you first

839
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: hold that story you started every manning, I was like, man,

840
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: did you pick him up like a barbecue or something.

841
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: No, No, I picked off every man in payn.

842
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get you like hanging out Archie more.

843
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: And like when he's like throwing throwing somebody out.

844
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 4: See I'm gonna catch me in the grocery store trying

845
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 4: to reach for the breathe and you just pick him up,

846
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: pick him up and keep running.

847
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: That's the good idea. It's so funny here you guys

848
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: talk about joint practice. I found joint practices to be

849
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: like insanely stressful, and obviously my role is a little

850
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: bit different. I was trying to make the team, and

851
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I always felt like there was this weird kind of

852
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: like what is the tempo of the first day? Because

853
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: I was who practiced too hard?

854
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: Crazy hard time, like you would have got it defensively as.

855
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Hate oh God, like hat you remember Uncle Kid.

856
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: I remember Uncle ke Kendrick Ghost, and.

857
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: He'd be like, what are you doing? And I'm like,

858
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make the team. He's like, you're

859
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: trying too hard.

860
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: He can't tell the person to stop because him in

861
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Alexander the one man game.

862
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will, they will push you to the limited.

863
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: So that's what that's why I came up with. So

864
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: that was the standard, you know what I'm saying, So

865
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: me and him and so for Kendrick to tell you

866
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: that you're practicing too hard, you're probably practicing too hard,

867
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: right See.

868
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: The type gap probably was in Salmon and Salm catch

869
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: a scene route and run over a Kona like and

870
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: we Salmo say album, well bro to.

871
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: To be fair to me. Yeah, So like I came

872
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: up with Laron Landry here yeah and Laron Landry no,

873
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: no nonsense, would tackle you to the ground in seven.

874
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so those were the people I was practicing with.

875
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: So if I didn't practice hard, like I was gonna

876
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: get my knee took out by Lauran coming in from

877
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: depth and trying to slice me down. Most so people

878
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: like they don't get like, look why you practice hard.

879
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: It's like that's just was the environment that I came

880
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: up in. But anyway, back to joint practice, so I

881
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: was always like how hard should I practice? And I

882
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: didn't like that I couldn't go as hard as like yeah,

883
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: and like where are we at? And then eventually someone

884
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: would kind of do something to me and I'd be

885
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: like that's nonsense, and I try to get that guy back,

886
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: and then it kind of ramps up and then you

887
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I was the guy that

888
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: was stirring the fight stuff, because like you know, you

889
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: never want to get beat. You're always trying to make

890
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: the team you get.

891
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 4: We talk about in the defensive meeting, you know what

892
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: that eighty two we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna miss

893
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: him up.

894
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: Everybody talks him on the ground till Mara, you know what,

895
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: he's running it out red, I'm gonna cut him.

896
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's how it was for me.

897
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: And I was always like, you know, what's the temple?

898
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Who's So that was always really stressful because again, you're

899
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: trying to make the team. You don't I told you

900
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: don't want to look bad as the other side.

901
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: So who's the logan pulsing on the team right now? Man,

902
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: it just didn't mind saying that their team don't like him,

903
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: but he refused. He relentless, He reviewed these up because

904
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: all that metal him is getting this year in his league.

905
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

906
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I want to say Bates because I like Baits and

907
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got a little bit of that

908
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: to him. You know, I was watching nine on seven

909
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the other day and Bates is getting a little I

910
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: can see that. But I think he's a little bit

911
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: more chill than me, you know what I'm saying, Like

912
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: because he's he's like more established on the roster, but

913
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: he's generation what this gen z. Yeah, I mean he's

914
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: probably chilling chill than you. But yeah, like a guy

915
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is like Casey two Hill, that

916
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: dude's going I love to an hour.

917
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: I love him, I love it. I would say he's

918
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: the new logan Posse two changs.

919
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so obviously that's kind of our experience

920
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: with joint practices. What is specifically practicing against Baltimore bringing

921
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: for us physicality.

922
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 4: That's the one thing you get out of the Ravens

923
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: what we call you will swap paint.

924
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: It will be black marks on your burgundy in goals like.

925
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: That's what you know, physicality, And you love being around

926
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: another coach like Habbah it's gonna push you to the back,

927
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: and that believes in every little thing because he started

928
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: off a special team coach, so special teams is his thing.

929
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: So you know you're gonna get special teams rep That

930
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: what I already remember going up there.

931
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: Special team coach Smitty used to be.

932
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: Always be like, Oh, we're gonna get this working, this serious,

933
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: special teams working.

934
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that.

935
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what I mean. That's first and

936
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: foremost to me. You know, that's one of the reasons

937
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: why I didn't I didn't like the joint practices just knowing,

938
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: especially knowing your opponent, knowing how we go at you know,

939
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: go about our business. If you're going against one of

940
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: those teams that's gonna you know, it's not easy to

941
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: practice against because their level of and you know their

942
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: intensity might be a little higher than yours, and you

943
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: just know you gotta you know, call it what it is,

944
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 3: Spader Bingo. You know what you bring to the table

945
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: as a team, as a unit, and it might be

946
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: individuals that go hard. Logan just talked about.

947
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: How he goes.

948
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, iw went hard, went out to go to

949
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: everyone don't have that same mindset. So when you go

950
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: against a team like Baltimore, you're gonna be measured as

951
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: a team and you can win all you want to

952
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: and look good on one player too, But if if

953
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: the offense lose that rep, we all look bad. No

954
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: matter what I did on that route, the ball can't

955
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: get to me.

956
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Then we as a.

957
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: Team practice Ray Luke coming after Tunnel. It's serious and practice.

958
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: But I just feel like this is really going to

959
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: be a chance for us to measure where we're at.

960
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 3: You know, we say that we're a better defense because

961
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: we're ranked high. Now can we be that same defense

962
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: this year. Are we on the level of a Baltimore

963
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: when they've shown you year after year after year they've

964
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: been known for their defense alone, you know what I mean.

965
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a measuring stick, you know, for us,

966
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: just to see who we have and where we measure

967
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: against the best of the best.

968
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: So real quick fallo up. What does winning the week

969
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: look like?

970
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: When the week is man, just just having a good practice, Man,

971
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: don't don't look at it more than what we do

972
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: out here. I think a lot of guys get caught

973
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: up into saying that's what I was.

974
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 2: That was my point.

975
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: I was trying to make my I didn't look at

976
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: the joint practice. Ass Oh man, this I got to

977
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: go out here and do you know, make make you know,

978
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: be a world beater or No. I wanted to go

979
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: out there and get the same work I put in

980
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: against my guys, but just know I'm boring against a

981
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: different guy. So I have to make sure I win

982
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: it because I don't want him going home thinking that,

983
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I can lock tenn up. Like I said,

984
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 3: it's hard to your receiver and not showed them something.

985
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you can do what

986
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 3: you do in practice every day against these other guys

987
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: in practice, then you should be able to say that's

988
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: a win for me. I got out of practice without

989
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: doing too much, and I didn't have to, you know,

990
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, use too much of my muscle to get

991
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: it get it done.

992
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: I wish I would I asked you about that when

993
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I was playing, because I was always going. I was

994
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to like win the day every day. But like

995
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: it's it's I think that's a really.

996
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: Healthy way to gott to leave band aid free.

997
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: It's the same.

998
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to say, you know what we competed,

999
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: it was just his physicals dem and we left here.

1000
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: How we came in. We left here healthy.

1001
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that matters. So I know, like

1002
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: coaches will be like, oh, like this is actually something

1003
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: I was going to spring up. So I remember when

1004
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: we had a first showing practice, or my first showing

1005
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: practice was against New England, and I remember there or no,

1006
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: it was against the Texans, and they were like, hey, hey,

1007
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna, yeah, sacked up. I was singing

1008
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, but Bill O'Brien was not with the Patriots

1009
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: at the time, and he goes and he goes, hey, guys,

1010
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna help each other out. We're gonna be able,

1011
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah great. And at the time they were

1012
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, the Houston Texas were Yeah. So they

1013
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: come out first day and we lose the day, you know,

1014
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: like it's not a good practice, a lot of interceptions,

1015
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: we're getting kind of beat up, a lot of tackles.

1016
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: So Ja comes in the me he's like, hey, man, like,

1017
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: we're not about that. We gotta we're winning tomorrow. So

1018
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: next day we're out there like it's you think it's

1019
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: a live game, Like you are getting tackled, fullbacks are

1020
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: cutting people, and it was just like whoa. And so

1021
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: then on Hard Knocks that night, Bill O'Brien's like, guys, like,

1022
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like they're embarrassing you. And it

1023
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: just kept ramping up. And so the third day it's

1024
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: a full brawl ilm. It's all people punching each other.

1025
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: But I think, to your point, Tanna, like it takes

1026
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: a mature coach to be like, hey man, are we

1027
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: getting good practice in yes or no? Because I can't

1028
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: get into that brawl state and just doing everything.

1029
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: And I hate to say that, but I'm glad you

1030
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: brought it up, because that's what normally happens. You going

1031
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: out there trying to be productive, and the coaches getting

1032
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: in they like.

1033
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: We didn't look good.

1034
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: They you know, they want on today as a team,

1035
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: were going out to tomorrow, and we gotta go out

1036
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: here and almost brawl just to make a bra because

1037
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: I can tell you when we did that with New England,

1038
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: I was laughing about it because it had me in

1039
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: a sense like, oh so we really that much better

1040
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: than y'all, and y'all can feel it, and we're not

1041
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: even looking like y'all, y'all look militant. I mean, everything

1042
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: y'all did was whistle blow. Guy was flying, he was walking.

1043
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Eh what I guess.

1044
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm ready to get him out of this. But you know,

1045
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: we we we we shooting there, you know what, and

1046
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: these guys are over there sprint and then we.

1047
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: Gotta feel you know.

1048
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: One guy held me, one of the guys he helped me,

1049
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: and I still caught the ball and and I was

1050
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: like heron hold me no more. Then you see a

1051
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: dB wight over there, Oh.

1052
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Listen to him.

1053
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: You can hold them all you want to, I said, well,

1054
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna never hold me because I'm running by.

1055
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: You all day.

1056
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: And then it how you all rows you like he

1057
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: was mad, just because it's like I still caught that

1058
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: past and Pierre in his ear like, don't worry about

1059
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: the o G I got him.

1060
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: You don't understand I saw Pierre was.

1061
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: But that just shows you how the practices go from

1062
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: you just trying to be productive man, get in and

1063
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: out of it. I'm just telling a guy don't hold

1064
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: me because I'm not trying to put no hamstream. I'm

1065
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: not trying to be doing his extra work just to

1066
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: catch the ball on you. When I'm gonna catch the

1067
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: ball on you. Your beat already, and it gets wrapped

1068
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: up because somebody in their feelings, one of them coaches

1069
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: might say, I don't like the way he talked to

1070
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: your players. And then now tomorrow I got to come

1071
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: out here in a game and tell me something.

1072
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 4: When we get into it with the coaches, see, I

1073
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: usually stay into it with the where I received, become

1074
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: yeppy that I'm getting none of their team.

1075
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: Senior beast said me, what you got over there?

1076
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: So it just it's it's melt too in physical warfare

1077
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 4: and I think that's why I enjoyed it, and we

1078
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: talking a long time, guys.

1079
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: Y'all really got some diarrhea of the mouth today, y'all practices.

1080
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's it all done now, Thanks Fred, right,

1081
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: make sure I don't make the news. I know. Thank you, Fred.

1082
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: All right, see you guys later. Guys, we got a

1083
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: ton of content for you. Game Day Live, Janks and Santanamos,

1084
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Regular Season with b Mitch. That show was great. Last week.

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