WEBVTT - Ranking NFL backfields 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:06.519 Do you Around the NFL podcast has told you everything 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:10.399 they know. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.079 the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas, and I 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.720 am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.880 Chris Westling, and Greg Rose the ball. What is up? Boys? 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.760 Hey dude, what's happening? What is up? First Monday podcast 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.000 in uh sometime, And it's good. It's good to be here. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.720 I like Monday podcast. You know, he's get right into 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.560 the week, getting get in touch with the people. Mark 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.200 actually changed my day off to be here for this today. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:44.600 That's how important there is to me. Yeah, nice humble brag. Well, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.840 they might not be the whole reason, but I don't 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.800 even think it was there either. I don't know it was. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.120 It had some impact, wasn't the really good to have 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.040 you here though? Either way? Yeah, it's great to have 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.920 the four because it's after this week we're gonna start. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.960 There's gonna be some vacations and we'll be we'll be 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.320 running three across. Maybe we'll have some guests in here 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.120 um to sit in. I know there was some buzz. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.840 I continue to see buzz on Twitter like people love 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.760 Colleen Wolf will try to get Colleen and here at 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.120 some point, you know, we'll see what we can do. 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:16.080 But for this week we've got three shows. Uh and um, 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:22.840 you know, by the way, don't forget Thursday when West's 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:28.880 Toaster is back, by far the worst drop that we've 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.240 ever had. This technically a disaster. We gotta mate, we'll 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.039 make a new one. But I love the charm. Listen 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:40.040 to it again, the charm of it. It's like a 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:45.320 toast when West's toes. When West's toes, that would be 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.040 a weird game. Um, so we'll do that on Thursday. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.600 I think Sally has done a great job behind the 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.400 scenes looking for people all tds, where's he? He's like 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.680 like the King of France's wedding. Now is any mark? 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.200 And I don't know who knows where TD is it is. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.000 It was a string of many weddings and like multiple 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.800 full nations, and I think you're right, it's it's France 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.360 based at this point in his royalty involved And Wes, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.760 you did some digging on Twitter that perhaps people have 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.120 been illicitly feeding t D some of these secret code 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.200 words for the podcast, and t D might not be listening. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.760 I didn't have to do much digging because people tweeted 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.040 us and told us they captured screen grabs of our 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.840 friend Isaiah and a couple of other people just absolutely 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.240 feeding t D all this stuff to say, So, who 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.480 knows if tds even listening to the podcast. Actually your 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.480 gut feeling, Greg, Yeah, they probably gave him the information, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.080 although in this case, at least he's taking that and 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.040 using it smartly. I give our listeners some credit for 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.000 passing on. Well. The time stamp proves that he responded 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.840 to the information our way immediately, so it did not 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.240 come organically from listening to the show. And by the way, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.800 Sully's hoping t D stays in for every wedding in Europe. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.280 He's loving it. Behind the glass, you can tell the 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.560 confidence is flowing out of it. I'm just excited to 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.600 see King of Frances. It's been a while. That's why. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:11.959 I mean, it's a special wedding. So yeah. So TV 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.639 will be back maybe a little later in the week, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.959 four of us for three shows this week, So that's exciting. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.239 And we got a nice show today and I sincerely 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.600 mean that, a very nice show today. We're going to 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.040 uh uh as we do, We're gonna do a little 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.680 news what's happened since the last time we spoke with you, 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.880 which was a few days ago now, So we'll catch 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.200 up on what's going on in the NFL, and then 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.240 big day for a guy. You know, he moved the 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.160 schedule around. We didn't find this out until he told us. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.400 Mark said he moved some pieces around, some chess pieces 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.800 of his week. He's here and there's a reason why 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.680 because this the whole theme of this podcast is Cessler. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:55.760 Mark Anthony Cesler related the running back rankings. He ranks 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.200 the NFL backfields from one to thirty two. It's a 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.280 new post up on nfl dot com slash around the 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.920 Around the NFL. So make sure he checked that out. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.640 I read it, really liked it, and we're gonna go 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.920 through his thirty two to one countdown Big Cessla Show 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.480 One takeaway. Middle name not Anthony, I thought I thought 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.640 it was you were named after the Latino crooner Edward, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.120 which is my dad's name. Yeah, be insulting to my 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.000 dad that he'd think I'm potentially spreading that information that 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.599 I'm changing my middle name. Have I met ed Cessler? 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.039 Your daddy? My dad had the same name. I like that. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.000 I don't think so that I don't think his connection 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.120 that's why you guys get along so well. So yeah, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.640 that's it, Cessler a big show. We're gonna go through 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.919 his countdown. Um. Like I said, though, before we do 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.679 any of that, we check behind the glass with Sally 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.000 and Uh, Sally, can we please if you would do 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:56.920 some news. We start in Dallas where the Dallas Cowboys. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.440 Of course, you know, this Des Bryant deal has not 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.760 been one that that has gotten done. We thought it 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.800 would be got got done last summer. It never happened. Uh. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.960 And now that the Dallas Cowboys receiver has told NFL 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.680 media columnist Michael Silver that he might miss regular season 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.440 action because of this contract dispute. Uh, Dez is under 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.200 the franchise tag right now, but he's not happy about it. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.800 He said to Silver about the idea of a holdout 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.440 that could extend into the season. This is not a rumor, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.640 it's legit. Start with you, Greg, this uh on the 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.839 surface in early June. This broke on Friday. You know, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.479 just an obvious contract ploy to get the job done. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.960 Is there any way we actually see this happen where 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.440 Des doesn't play a game. I believe that Dez Bryant 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.400 believes it's possible, if that makes any sense. But do 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:48.200 I really think there's any legitimate chance that Dez Bryant 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:52.000 passes up nearly a million dollars per game for playing? 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.599 No way, He's made eleven point eight million dollars in 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.920 his entire five year career. The franchise tag pays him 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.800 this year twelve only eight million dollars. There's no way 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.960 he's going to pass up these big pay days. But 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.760 this is the only leverage he has. It's this week. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.120 If if you want to threaten, I'm saying I will 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.400 sit out games. Not I might sit outs, you know. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.880 But he probably does believe it because it's an emotional 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.880 contract issue on in June. He probably believes it, but 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.760 I don't. I don't believe him. We're downstairs watching one 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.600 of the Cowboys Super Bowls from ages ago. In the 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.240 last Cowboys player I commembered to do this where it 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.200 actually happened, was Emmitt Smith held out for the first 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.200 two games of the year, if I remember, and came 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.039 back and toward the league part. And Dez is that 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.760 type of player, and he is that important to the Cowboys, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.839 and if he did actually fall through it. Yeah that 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.040 I guess that would give him leverage, But still I 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.200 don't know if this is you know, I feel like 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.680 they did a bad job here. I feel like they 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.680 should have taken care of him already. I guess you 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.479 have to wonder if they're still not sold on whether 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.880 this is a guy they want to invest in big 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.880 time money with in future. That's the only reason to me. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.320 I know that there's some salary cap issues obviously, but 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.400 this deal should have been done to me, and you're 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.279 you're playing with fire in my opinion, on multiple levels, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.600 I can't really feel sorry for a guy who's going 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.800 to make right and where it's all splitting hairs. I 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.200 think your point is well taken, Dan. Maybe they're trying 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.120 to structure it in a way that they're not guaranteeing 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.280 so much upfront that it's a little more year a 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.680 year than some of the big contracts. But I don't 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.400 fault the Cowboys here without really knowing the information. For 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.680 all we know, Dez Bryant is asking for more money 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.560 than Calvin Johnson's ever made by far. That would not 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.640 surprise me at all that he's looking to be by far, 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.560 the number one wide receiver in terms of his contract 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.040 and when that happens, these things just take a while 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.720 and you kind of have to wait each other out 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.840 for the contract numbers to go down a little. But 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.360 something is going on behind the scenes that we will 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.640 find out about later on, because it wasn't at the 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.440 last owners meeting, but the one before where Jason Garrett 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.920 was saying, absolutely no question, Dez is a priority for us, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.640 and we're gonna make this happen. I mean a full 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.160 year plus has passed at this point. He's he's been 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.400 one of my favorite players for a few years. Now. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.200 Where do you guys put him? Who's better than him? 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.480 At the widers? Is Julio Jones better? Is A J 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.920 Green better? Is Calvin Johnson better? I mean Odell Beckham? 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.280 These are some guys I guess you could put ahead 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.320 of him, but I would I you can make the 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.240 argument that he's the best wide receiver. What he is 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.360 for Dallas, He's right up there. I mean, if you 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.920 want to talk pure wide receiver, I mean, Julio Jones 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.080 is just as important to the Falcons potentially. But you 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.640 take Dez Bryant off of the Cowboys and they are 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.800 in big trouble. With what they have on offense. He's 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.120 been the best red zone receiver in the NFL for 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.680 three years in a row. Now I don't Calvin Johnson. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.040 I think he gets to benefit of the doubt because 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.880 he's been the best receiver for a while. O'Dell Beckham 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.160 can be better, but Dez Bryant's right there. Like you said, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.280 with Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown right there 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:52.960 at the time. A J. Green I would put in 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.400 that mix too. You know, you see with Dez Bryant 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.520 a few more mental errors where he's not lined up 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.000 in the right place, and you a little bit of 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.240 that more than you do with Julio Jones or Calvin Johnson, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.200 for instance. But I think he makes up for in 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.600 terms of his just his aggression and how hard he 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.360 plays in the red zone. He's gonna get the contract 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.920 with all these contents. This one feels a little different 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.720 that there's some it's it's a complicated one to get done, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.760 but he's gonna get the money. Moving on, the Carolina Panthers, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.120 of course, made Cam Newton one of the highest paid 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.880 quarterbacks in the league recently. Now they take care of 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:28.280 business with linebacker Thomas Davis, who signed a two year 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:32.360 extension where he'll collect eighteen million over the next three 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.400 years when you factor in the previous deal. This according 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.680 to rap sheet uh Davis is thirty two but still 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.760 playing at a high level for three linebacker, and of 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.120 course Mark came back from three a c L surgery, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.960 so you know this is a contract well earned. Well 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.840 we if we say that the Cowboys or other teams 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.880 haven't handled certain things, well, I mean, I think the 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.480 Panthers showed incredible patients with Thomas Davis dating back a 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.760 long time, and they obviously is high class guy. That 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.600 means lots of the organization off the field too, but 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.440 he's incredibly valuable on it. But some teams would have 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.400 jumped ship a long time ago on players with so 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.439 many reasons to have to keep waiting for his production. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.640 I kind of think this is a classy move by 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.840 the Panthers. And I'll finish because his career there. What 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.880 a year for him. He wins NFL's Man of the Year, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.360 got the key to the city of Charlotte, and now 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.920 now it gets to the city actually do for you. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.960 I think it's strictly ceremonial. I think it opens any 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.160 I used to shop I was as a kid. I 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.240 thought it literally lets you get into any place in 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.760 the world, which was the best idea ever for like 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.080 an honor. No, that is what it is. Like. If 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.599 Thomas Davis wants to go grab a frozen yogurt, he 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.760 can just go to any of the Charlotte one in 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:53.360 the morning, like the donut store. He's a big used 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.240 book fan. Uh, just in general city, go over to 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.680 the using those stores in the morning. Just take whatever 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:05.640 kind of quitting TDS MVP of the Pod. When I 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.760 was like in eighth grade, Uh, the guy at the 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.280 local gym handed us the keys to the gym so 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.240 we could practice basket basketball, like on weekends or after hours. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.000 I thought that was much more important than you can 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.199 come to my gym anytime. You won't change in the 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.360 locker room. You can actually go in after hours and 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.120 play basketball. That is pretty honest. Did anything negative come 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.599 about from it? No? We were good kids when you 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.160 boys come to my gym. Do you think you'll ever 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:34.440 get the key in Cincinnati? No? No, West, was there 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.839 anything sinis there better? Am I any too much into it? No? 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.920 There was nothing. We we we were good kids. Then. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.679 I mean, this was not a very special episode of 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.360 different strokes. It was a more it was a more 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:50.679 innocent time. It was the early seventies. America is at 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.560 the top of the charts. Sister Golden Air moving on 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.520 the Atlanta Falcons. Uh. Two mainstays of their offensive line 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.559 in recent years. Uh uh both in the news today. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.720 Sam Baker, their left tackle, who has missed most of 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.960 the last two years with knee issues, was released. Um, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.480 Baker's out of a job, so he's on the street now. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.960 He was potentially gonna compete for the left guard position, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.480 which opened up when the Falcons released Justin Blaylock in February. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.960 And Blaylock, according to rap Sheet, is planning to retire now, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.880 so Baker uh is on the is a free agent, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.200 Justin Blaylock calling it quits and Blaylock Uh is only 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.400 thirty one. Baker's thirty. But I thought the Blaylock thing 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.960 was interesting. Mark, you love your boy Kyle Shanahan. Uh 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.120 he Uh. He is a capable guard, obviously, but he 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.600 was pushed aside because Shanahan didn't seem as a fitness 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.400 offense and I guess after looking around, he decided to 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.760 hang it up at thirty one years old. Well, I 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.600 mean the one. Atlanta's line has been a mess for 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.120 a while, and now they're going through something of a 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.640 scheme change too, so I that'll be interesting to see 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.800 how that that works this year. I think these the 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.480 retirement and and releasing Sam Baker highlights at the Falcons 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.040 who's been worse than them at drafting and developing offensive 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:10.080 lineman Over the past five years, They've spent five picks 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.440 in the first four rounds on offensive lineman, and none 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.280 of them has emerged as a above average start. There's 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.720 still hope for Jake Matthews, but guys like uh Cons 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.400 Peter Kan's the center. They drafted the second round, Lamar 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.560 Holmes at right tackle. He had an okay career. But 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.080 I remember when Sam Baker got taken. It was in 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.680 the early twenties of the first round. People were really 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.600 surprised about that pick. They drafted him with Matt Ryan, 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.679 and I was even more surprised that they doubled down 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.839 and gave him a big contract two years ago. So 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.280 I always talk about self scouting. They did. They really 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.679 tried to believe in that Baker pick, even though it 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.560 never really panned out, and then when they gave him 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.839 the big money again, it double backfired on him and 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.840 he's just been hurt. I'm not sure what the numbers 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.319 are right now, but it's a sizeable cap hit they 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.760 take by getting rid of Baker or uh so, yeah, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.120 Greg is absolutely right. Reminds me of my boy Mr 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.160 T Mike Tannebaum, what he did with Mark Sanchez once 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.520 U by the time, Oh, I thought you were gonna 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.400 say it reminds you of your boy boy. David Baker 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.760 massive uh NFL personality, a massive man. Hall of fame. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.160 The head of the Hall of Fame is Sam Baker's 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.640 father also used to run. He was the commissioner of 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.120 the UFL. I believe Bears, this is why I see 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.840 you on those top ten lists on the network all 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.240 the time. You're just the fountain of information. He bears 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.080 a physical resemblance to a late career Babe Ruth. He 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.280 absolutely does. And you always seem with the Super Bowl, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.520 you see him in the lobby and everyone's coming up 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.080 and talking to him. It's like, for your who is 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.080 this guy? I thought, And finally we know he is 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.000 the father that was the former Falcons. I think the 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.560 only reason I know is because you were emailing or 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.480 texting me from one of the like, who is this 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.840 guy I see everywhere? This huge guy, and we kind 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.200 of we figured it was like, he looks like it 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.600 could be the brother of Andre the Giant. I was 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.840 gonna say NFL player as well. Telling telling me a 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.520 guy that you look like Babe Ruth in the dusk 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.280 of his life is one of the big putdowns you 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.960 could throw at somebody. A very nice guy by all accounts, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.120 Is that true? Yes, you could just see what people 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.200 are lining up plugged in on this guy. I don't 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.640 I don't know anything about him. I've never been to 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.800 runs the Pro Football of Fame. Alright, alright, I'm sorry, 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.040 all right. West said he's never going to the Hall 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.120 of Fame if you like gets in. So you know 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.080 the football like NFL, all those players, Yeah, they're they're 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.440 in Canton getting inshrined every time. Beckham's Mark's going back 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:36.080 this year. Really breaking news. Wow breaking Mark's on top 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.320 right now. You got your running back, you got your 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.720 running back rankings, big show you came in today, showed 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.760 your commitment to the boss. Going back to Canton. What heut? 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.760 What could happen next? What's next? Playing plane crash on 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.840 the way to Ohio And I'm just saying it's what 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:56.760 could happen next? You're a better week, you were Thomas Davis. Well, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.240 Thomas Davis won't need no one in that family need 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.640 to have a job again for the next two years. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:07.280 So probably Thomas Davis. Thomas Davis play Mark's dentist Bill, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.280 like Thomas Davis is having a better week. Yes, he 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.640 is all right. Moving on another retirement. Jason Campbell, who 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.320 is one of West's favorites at quarterback, known for his 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.000 worm burners, as West calls them, uh, the King of 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.240 the checkdown. Jason Campbell has decided he's planning to retire 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.000 after ten seasons. He uh. A source close to Campbell 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.680 told rap Sheet that the decision is not final, but 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.840 with training camps on the horizon, Uh, he's he's oh, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.520 you know, I guess he's he's down to retire if 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.440 nobody calls his number. That's what it seemed like to me. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.200 But Campbell played ten years of former first round pick 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.080 by the Redskins, of course, went to Oakland, had a 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.960 cup of coffee with Mark and Cleveland, and then last 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.160 year was Andy Dalton's uh backup in Cincinnati, so it 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.240 might be it for Jason Campbell West you'll never see 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.520 him again. At one point, I believe he had seven 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.320 offensive coordinators in the first seven years of his career, UM, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.880 so he never really had a fair shake. But he's 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.800 also another reminder that just because a first round quarterback 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.960 shows a little bit of promise in the second half 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.000 of his rookie season, that doesn't mean he's going to 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.120 continue to develop into a stud. You see this all 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.560 the time. He had me pretty excited about him at 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.280 one point in his career. It's really even into his 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.080 third season. I'm looking at his stats now. He led 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.320 the league if this is you know, a stat in 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.800 the fewest interceptions per throw thirteen touchdowns, six interceptions through 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.080 for thirty yards. The team was eight and a. At 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.000 that point, you thought Jason Campbell was TWI years all 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:36.879 the time. At the very least, he's going to be 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.119 a starter in the NFL For ten years. He was 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.120 a promising guy and then I don't know what really 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.680 did him wrong injuries. This was never really accurate and 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.880 didn't have a great touch on his pass. In two 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.840 thousand twelve, I remember this. They the Bears signed him 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.880 to I think a three and a half million dollar contract, 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.800 a one year deal, which was like the most money 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.280 of any backup quarterback, and they thought that they had 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.480 a guy they could trust in case Cutler got hurt. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.720 And I think Cutler got hurt, and I remember Campbell 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.560 played the game played the Niners on Monday night and 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.360 he got absolutely waxed. There was a Texans game too, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.080 I believe, yeah, and one of the worst games I've 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.640 ever seen west it made him crazy. Was the game 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.560 he played for the Browns where he through. I was 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.399 convinced he had retired already at that point. But the 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.520 year before he signed that contract, I drove up to 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.880 Oakland on the fly to watch Cleveland play Hugh Jackson's Raiders, 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.520 and that was the game early in the year where 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.879 he got hurt. Campbell got hurt. He looked outstanding in 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.960 the early part of that year, and that game especially, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.119 they ran over Cleveland and they looked dangerous. And that 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.480 was what got Carson Palmer into Oakland because he was 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.960 gone for the year. That helped him get that contract 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.240 with the Bears. Had he not gotten hurt there, I 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.439 think we would have thought of him differently after that season. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.440 They had a gun at the playoffs and don't forget 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.919 about uh he yeah, he was seven and five. And 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.680 didn't his injury lead to the panic trade by the 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.760 Raiders to get Carson Ponds Good. We were reminded once again, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.399 while it's not a good idea to allow coaches to 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.000 make trades because they don't think of the future. They 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.959 only think, I gotta save my job right now. Well, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.760 it's no surprise that Hugh Jackson, who you know, absolutely 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.840 got fleeced by the Bengals, got a job with the 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.119 Bengals soon after. I think it's safe to say, what 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.640 are you sting? I think I just did. I think 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.680 it's safe to say that Jason Campbell is the most 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.320 successful Raiders starting quarterback since Rich Gannon. And it's not 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.360 even close. Eleven wins and seven losses. There's no one 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:33.040 else that possibly been four games over five as a 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:38.520 Raiders quarterback Andrew Walter stop. All right, So good luck 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.320 to you, Jason Cambell lest someone calls him and then 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.560 we'll probably see him in August, but we'll see what happens, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.639 all right. Finally, I just want to touch on this 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.240 Mark you wrote about it on uh Saturday. I believe 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.479 the Colts. Uh remember at the Combine. At the Combine, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.200 I noticed the same thing. There were banners hanging at 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.080 Lucas Oil Stadium. Uh. It was like, you know, saying 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.840 that they when they won their divisions, they got a 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.359 banner when they went to the a f C title 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.240 game and the early aughts, they you know, it would 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920 sayd a f C finalists, but they just hung another 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.000 banner for two thousand fourteen a f C finalists. And 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.359 for whatever reason, this caught the eye of social media 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.240 and it took off. Basically, I'm saying I got I 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.800 got screwed out of the you know, glory on this 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:26.879