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Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast has told you everything

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Speaker 1: they know. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas, and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rose the ball. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey dude, what's happening? What is up? First Monday podcast

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Speaker 1: in uh sometime, And it's good. It's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: I like Monday podcast. You know, he's get right into

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Speaker 1: the week, getting get in touch with the people. Mark

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Speaker 1: actually changed my day off to be here for this today.

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Speaker 1: That's how important there is to me. Yeah, nice humble brag. Well,

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Speaker 1: they might not be the whole reason, but I don't

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Speaker 1: even think it was there either. I don't know it was.

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Speaker 1: It had some impact, wasn't the really good to have

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Speaker 1: you here though? Either way? Yeah, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: the four because it's after this week we're gonna start.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be some vacations and we'll be we'll be

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Speaker 1: running three across. Maybe we'll have some guests in here

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Speaker 1: um to sit in. I know there was some buzz.

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Speaker 1: I continue to see buzz on Twitter like people love

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf will try to get Colleen and here at

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Speaker 1: some point, you know, we'll see what we can do.

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Speaker 1: But for this week we've got three shows. Uh and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, by the way, don't forget Thursday when West's

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Speaker 1: Toaster is back, by far the worst drop that we've

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Speaker 1: ever had. This technically a disaster. We gotta mate, we'll

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Speaker 1: make a new one. But I love the charm. Listen

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Speaker 1: toast when West's toes. When West's toes, that would be

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Speaker 1: a weird game. Um, so we'll do that on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I think Sally has done a great job behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes looking for people all tds, where's he? He's like

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Speaker 1: like the King of France's wedding. Now is any mark?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know who knows where TD is it is.

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Speaker 1: It was a string of many weddings and like multiple

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Speaker 1: full nations, and I think you're right, it's it's France

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Speaker 1: based at this point in his royalty involved And Wes,

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Speaker 1: been illicitly feeding t D some of these secret code

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Speaker 1: I didn't have to do much digging because people tweeted

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Speaker 1: us and told us they captured screen grabs of our

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Speaker 1: friend Isaiah and a couple of other people just absolutely

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Speaker 1: feeding t D all this stuff to say, So, who

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Speaker 1: knows if tds even listening to the podcast. Actually your

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Speaker 1: gut feeling, Greg, Yeah, they probably gave him the information,

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Speaker 1: although in this case, at least he's taking that and

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Speaker 1: using it smartly. I give our listeners some credit for

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Speaker 1: passing on. Well. The time stamp proves that he responded

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Speaker 1: to the information our way immediately, so it did not

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Speaker 1: come organically from listening to the show. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Sully's hoping t D stays in for every wedding in Europe.

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Speaker 1: He's loving it. Behind the glass, you can tell the

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Speaker 1: confidence is flowing out of it. I'm just excited to

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Speaker 1: see King of Frances. It's been a while. That's why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a special wedding. So yeah. So TV

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Speaker 1: will be back maybe a little later in the week,

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Speaker 1: four of us for three shows this week, So that's exciting.

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Speaker 1: And we got a nice show today and I sincerely

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Speaker 1: mean that, a very nice show today. We're going to

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Speaker 1: uh uh as we do, We're gonna do a little

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Speaker 1: news what's happened since the last time we spoke with you,

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Speaker 1: big day for a guy. You know, he moved the

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Speaker 1: Mark said he moved some pieces around, some chess pieces

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Speaker 1: of his week. He's here and there's a reason why

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Speaker 1: because this the whole theme of this podcast is Cessler.

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Speaker 1: Mark Anthony Cesler related the running back rankings. He ranks

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Speaker 1: the NFL backfields from one to thirty two. It's a

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Speaker 1: new post up on nfl dot com slash around the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL. So make sure he checked that out.

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Speaker 1: I read it, really liked it, and we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through his thirty two to one countdown Big Cessla Show

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Speaker 1: One takeaway. Middle name not Anthony, I thought I thought

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Speaker 1: it was you were named after the Latino crooner Edward,

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Speaker 1: Your daddy? My dad had the same name. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know, this Des Bryant deal has not

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Speaker 1: And now that the Dallas Cowboys receiver has told NFL

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Speaker 1: action because of this contract dispute. Uh, Dez is under

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Speaker 1: that could extend into the season. This is not a rumor,

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Speaker 1: just an obvious contract ploy to get the job done.

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Speaker 1: Is there any way we actually see this happen where

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Speaker 1: I really think there's any legitimate chance that Dez Bryant

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Speaker 1: passes up nearly a million dollars per game for playing?

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Speaker 1: No way, He's made eleven point eight million dollars in

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Speaker 1: this is the only leverage he has. It's this week.

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Speaker 1: But he probably does believe it because it's an emotional

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys Super Bowls from ages ago. In the

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Speaker 1: last Cowboys player I commembered to do this where it

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Speaker 1: and if he did actually fall through it. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: I guess that would give him leverage, But still I

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Speaker 1: you're playing with fire in my opinion, on multiple levels,

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Speaker 1: I can't really feel sorry for a guy who's going

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Speaker 1: think your point is well taken, Dan. Maybe they're trying

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Speaker 1: all we know, Dez Bryant is asking for more money

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Speaker 1: than Calvin Johnson's ever made by far. That would not

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Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver in terms of his contract

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Speaker 1: and when that happens, these things just take a while

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Speaker 1: and you kind of have to wait each other out

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Speaker 1: for the contract numbers to go down a little. But

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna make this happen. I mean a full

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Speaker 1: year plus has passed at this point. He's he's been

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Speaker 1: Where do you guys put him? Who's better than him?

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Speaker 1: in big trouble. With what they have on offense. He's

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Speaker 1: been the best red zone receiver in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: three years in a row. Now I don't Calvin Johnson.

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna get the money. Moving on, the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level for three linebacker, and of

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Speaker 1: so you know this is a contract well earned. Well

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Speaker 1: we if we say that the Cowboys or other teams

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. And I'll finish because his career there. What

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Speaker 1: an honor. No, that is what it is. Like. If

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Speaker 1: same thing. They kind of did. This is your pr

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Speaker 1: machine trying to get people that sex no banners bad finalist.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the word finalist, because no one's ever

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Speaker 1: called anyone a finalist. You're you're the runner up, or

431
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Speaker 1: you're the loser of that game. I don't even let's

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Speaker 1: you've appeared in the game, and not only did you

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Speaker 1: appear in the game, you embarrassed yourself, you got bombed

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Speaker 1: out of the building. It's not something that you want

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Speaker 1: to necessarily even remember. They're they're too successful franchise over

436
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Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Like this is going the way

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Speaker 1: of the Adam Corolla. Everybody gets a trophy for participating

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Speaker 1: speed Ah, that's what's happening, all right, So maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: put up some banners around. You know, Mark hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to win that m v P award, but we

441
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Speaker 1: could put up by his desk, you know, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: m v P Award finalist, right, or like you've at

443
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Speaker 1: least been a finalist for the podcast or like eight

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Speaker 1: rank Story of the Day two thousand forty two thousand

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Speaker 1: fourteen Stitcher nomination for Best Sports Pod. And we can

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Speaker 1: get that, you know, din we lose one reason something

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, put it on the cover. Take off

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Speaker 1: the Best of iTunes two thousand and six or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's maybe it's time for that contend to while we're

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Speaker 1: on the topic. Alright, So Mark, you wrote the piece

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Speaker 1: ranking NFL backfields from number one to number thirty two,

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Speaker 1: and uh, why don't we build up? You know, first

453
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Speaker 1: of all, everyone should read it. I read it cover

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Speaker 1: to cover. I'm not convinced to that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I read it though, and you know it was comprehensive

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Speaker 1: Mark talk. Not only it wasn't just when Mark sat

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Speaker 1: down and and and his mother's basement and blogged it out.

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Speaker 1: Mark made some phone calls. They actually listened in on

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Speaker 1: one inadvertently when he was talking to the Vikings running

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Speaker 1: backs coach and speaking in a broadcasting voice on the phone. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I had go ahead. Yeah, anyway, So what I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to give a compliment, pay a compliment. Mark really

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Speaker 1: dug in to figure this list out. So why don't

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Speaker 1: we count down from the back end. It'll be a

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Speaker 1: little fun. Uh yeah, you know, throw it, throw a

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Speaker 1: little curveball right off the bat, and uh, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you thirty two through five? Why not? And uh, we're

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Speaker 1: through twenty six Because Mark broke into tears the Buccaneers. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Doug Martin has fallen quite a long way from when

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Speaker 1: he was thought of as one of the best young

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Speaker 1: backs in the league. H Thirty one the Titans, uh

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Speaker 1: with Bishop Sanky leading the way, thirty Raiders twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, which is interesting, jag Jaguars with t J. Yelden,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals at seven, and the Cowboys, who of course

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Speaker 1: led the NFL and rushing last year, got rid of

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Speaker 1: de Marco Murray and now have Darren McFadden and Joseph

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Speaker 1: Randall leading away. They come into twenty six. So that's

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Speaker 1: the bottom tier of Mark's list. Thoughts, West, you've got

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Speaker 1: his going. I went back and watched Charles Sims and

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Speaker 1: Doug Martin because I've done posts on both of those

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Speaker 1: guys recently. Dirk Cutter, Buccaneers offensive coordinator, basically saved Doug

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Speaker 1: Martin's roster spot, saying that he went back and watched

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Speaker 1: film and Doug Martin looked like a lot better than

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Speaker 1: he expected. And book there are in the last three

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Speaker 1: games he clears ninety yards, and two of them one

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Speaker 1: he has a sixty three yard line through a gaping

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Speaker 1: chasm in the middle the field, and another one is

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Speaker 1: mistackling on a forty five yard run. I know we

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Speaker 1: don't like to do this, but if you take away

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Speaker 1: those two runs, he ever's two point eight yards per

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Speaker 1: carry over those three games. It's not like he was

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Speaker 1: sustaining an offense or moving chains. He just didn't look

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Speaker 1: that good to me, and Charles Sims looked like a

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Speaker 1: slow C. J. Spiller with no power. So I have

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Speaker 1: no problem ranking them as the worst running back crew

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Speaker 1: in the league. Maybe he looked at Doug Martin's rookie

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Speaker 1: tape seriously. Maybe he just thought this guy was this

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Speaker 1: dynamic in the NFL. At one point, I can save him,

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Speaker 1: but I have no problems putting them thirty second. I

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Speaker 1: do argue a little bit with the Cowboys. To me,

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Speaker 1: they're in contention for that worst spot. I would probably

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Speaker 1: have them right there at thirty two one, where I

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Speaker 1: like Joseph Randall, I have been, you know, vocal about that.

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Speaker 1: But if that's your best option, in my mind, by far,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty bad part of me. Was the cow

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Speaker 1: and I have you have to factor in, like what

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Speaker 1: were the results gonna be. They've got arguably the best

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Speaker 1: line in the in all of football running are you

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Speaker 1: judge in the running backs or the line? Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean with in this case, I look at Dallas and

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that Darren McFadden situation like some do.

512
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Speaker 1: So you've got a loud mouth and Joseph Randall, who

513
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Speaker 1: is good, I think, but the guy cannot stop talking,

514
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Speaker 1: and then the rest of the roster, I just I

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Speaker 1: don't look comparing them to the teams above them. It's

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Speaker 1: Dallas let the offensive player of the year walk out

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Speaker 1: the door, and they didn't exactly replace him the way

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Speaker 1: that teams like the Eagles and the Saints went out

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Speaker 1: in restocked. You uh, not buying in on Latavius Murray

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Speaker 1: having a breakout season as a Raiders coach recently said

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Speaker 1: he could be in for a huge year. I found

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Speaker 1: that interesting. Uh. And also at the Patriots, you have

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Speaker 1: yours on the in the piece you list all the

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Speaker 1: guys in the backfield where they have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: So they're they're really kind of the thrown the sink,

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Speaker 1: catching sink and doing that whole thing and hoping one

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Speaker 1: of these guys steps up. Um, maybe it'll be Jonas Gray,

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Speaker 1: but uh, hopefully he got I mean if blood's a

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Speaker 1: nice change of pace. Guy Jonas Gray showed something like

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Speaker 1: there's something here potentially with the Patriots can move the

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Speaker 1: well one thing with them because I on paper they

532
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Speaker 1: probably belonged down here in terms of the names, but

533
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: they're they're such a good team in terms of coaching.

534
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Speaker 1: No namers up that really, honestly, someone's gonna blow up

535
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Speaker 1: for a two hundred yard game at some pits. Someone

536
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Speaker 1: you suggesting the piece could be Lindsay lowin. I mean

537
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Speaker 1: they could pull anyone off the straight to do that.

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Speaker 1: But I talked to someone actress, she's getting bigger. She

539
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Speaker 1: could get two yard game out of Lindsay low And

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Speaker 1: if need that happened, feels real for week eight, talked

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Speaker 1: to one coach who doing the roster well and he

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Speaker 1: was like, they are to thirty squad because they don't

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Speaker 1: have a standout right Well, it was someone that didn't

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Speaker 1: want to name give the name. Position going, I I

545
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: think they totally belonged this load. They would be in

546
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Speaker 1: contention for the worst backfield I think in the entire league,

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Speaker 1: right with the Cowboy if you put T. J. Yellin,

548
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Speaker 1: Not that I've seen T. G. Yell than yet but

549
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: just eat a good second round pick if he turns out,

550
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Speaker 1: or Lettavius Murray or even Bishop Sankey and your boy

551
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: David Cobb. Daniel Deremia said, watch out for David Cobb

552
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Speaker 1: as a potential rookie that you can. If you put

553
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: those guys on the Patriots, I think they'd be in bed.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, my boy. Bernard Pierce is the fifth

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Speaker 1: guy in this list of the jack that's terrible Patriots backfield,

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Speaker 1: Um White is going to be there passing down back

557
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: at this point, who knows? I mean Bolden Blount, that

558
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: guy could not have looked more underwhelming and preseasonly. Agree.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you scoring at home. The Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling word of the day is chasm, which is a

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Speaker 1: deep fissure in the earth, rock or another surface. I

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00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: think that's pretty much I mean common. It's not like

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Speaker 1: a word that nobody uses. I'm saying I said it

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Speaker 1: was the word of the day. It doesn't say whether

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Speaker 1: it should have been used or or anything else. To use.

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Speaker 1: My last translator, he just called you a dumbask well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that a word that people Chasm is

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Speaker 1: pretty widely. I mean, it's only five letters, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: widely something. You're literally the first person I've ever heard

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Speaker 1: say the word that's not that's it, And it does

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Speaker 1: not reflect anyway on my intelligence that no one's ever

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Speaker 1: said that word before. Just you know, maybe I'm not

573
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Speaker 1: around high fluting people like you guys. It's out there,

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Speaker 1: it's in the elect whatever. It's over. I've I've had

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Speaker 1: I've canceled West's word of the Day because of an angry,

576
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: unnecessary response. Moving on number twenty five to twenty one,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons at the law, the Lions at twenty four,

578
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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns at twenty three, the New York Giants two,

579
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Speaker 1: and the Miami Dolphins at one. Uh Mark Lamar Miller

580
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: was pretty I think total yards last year, but you're

581
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: not in necessarily on them having a huge ceiling now

582
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: I moved them up and down. It's also with the

583
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Speaker 1: kind of offense they run some of these I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be dead wrong on in Miami's one of the ones

585
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Speaker 1: that are sort of suspect. But part of it is

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to rank rookies very and they have

587
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Speaker 1: a rookie j Gies. How you say his name like

588
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: that's he basically can't count on a fifth round pick

589
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: to make that big of an impact even though everyone

590
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: likes him. Well, that's talking to Daniel Jeremiah. He talked

591
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: him up and felt like he could be the steel

592
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Speaker 1: the draft in terms of where he was picked because

593
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: they were worried about his injuries and stuff. So if

594
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: he and Millard together and he and he performs that

595
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be much better than twenty one. But part

596
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: of it is then you start to say, who do

597
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you move these guys above? And that's where I got

598
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: into trouble. I look, I like the teams above them

599
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: better than Miami right now. Well, to me, this exercise

600
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: is not the most productive backfield because then of course

601
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Patriots are gonna be way high.

602
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: You're just looking at pure talent. And to me, the

603
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: Dolphins out of this group, if I had to just

604
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: choose the group of players, might be last. Well, the

605
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: Falcons too, I mean, I think the Giants it's not dynamic.

606
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: But Rashad Jennings, Andre Williams, Jane Green, you got a

607
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. I think that's a dark you're

608
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: cooking with gas there. The Browns, I like, I'm buying

609
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: some of this Duke Johnson hype. That was interesting you

610
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Thomas in the third round of the tray, Yeah, that

611
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: was that was suspect. You had a coach, a brown

612
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: source rather tell you that the running back room could

613
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: be up into the top one of the ten best

614
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: groups in league. And they talked up Duke Johnson a

615
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: little bit, and I mean he said basically he would

616
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: be shocked the source was a male, it was not

617
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: a female. He would be shocked if they weren't top

618
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: five in the NFL and rushing attempts and that seems

619
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: obvious with what they have through the air, but they

620
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: have three different types of running back, so possible top

621
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: ten seemed a little rich your sources. Did you have

622
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: any female sources? No, they were comprehensively male. Well, there's

623
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: no there's there's not a lot of team personnel or

624
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: coach coaches that are female. That's accurate. The one guy

625
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: in this tear that I'm most intrigued by is a

626
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: mirror yea Lions rookie who a lot of people I

627
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: first think he can be a star mhm and j

628
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, he went off on him, and

629
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: I think he's in a great spot because joyke Bell

630
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: went from essentially a journeyman or a guy who had

631
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: a great story that he even made the NFL to

632
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: a guy fantasy leaguers, for whatever reason, are just in

633
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: love with all this is gonna be the guy. He

634
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: wasn't that physically talented. He was a try hard guy,

635
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and he's coming off serious surgeries. Yeah, they don't think

636
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: he'll So there's no If I'm betting on a running back,

637
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely Abdullah and that joy Bell is never the

638
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: guy you draft in the first three rounds. You can

639
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Speaker 1: pick up guys like him off the waiver And there's

640
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: already some bad buzz around him about whether they're running

641
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: back coaches were that he's whether he'll be in shape

642
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: when he finally gets a training camp. He's coming off

643
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: surgeries to his knee and achilles. Uh. The Falcons, by

644
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: the way, I wrote a post on Sunday, they haven't

645
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: had a running back average four point oh yards per

646
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: Carrie since two thousand eleven. So I mean that is like, uh,

647
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, at least the primary back offensive line. Remember

648
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: the playoff games where they couldn't get fourth and short. Ever,

649
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean that that offensive line is come out to

650
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Freeman didn't do much last year. Tevin Culman will see

651
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: what happens. I do though, with with Shanahan there, it

652
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: might take more than one season to turn the line around.

653
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Plus but they he's always had productive running backs. I

654
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: think they'll be productive. I don't think that's necessarily that talented.

655
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I'm shocked by that. That's that. That's why

656
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: someone's gotta give ja Quiz Rogers a chance. I know

657
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: he does have a job now, but I always thought

658
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: he was a little better than people thought. He's part

659
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: of the problem. Well, you just said the line was

660
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: so bad that no one could run. But Stephen Jackson's

661
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: putting up a higher average than Quiz. Name me. Here's

662
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: a win wests Toaster, the Atlanta Falcons running back in

663
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the last ten years or six years that led the

664
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: league in yards per carry. There's a couple actually, now

665
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: that I think of it the time, Michael Turner, Jarius Norwood,

666
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: remember old Jarius? How many care that? Just that just

667
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: brought this part of chasm you've created for the show?

668
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Greg Moving on number twenty, the New York Jets number nineteen,

669
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the Rams number eighteen, The Panthers remember seventeen forty Niners

670
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: number sixteen. The ravens uh Forts seemed high to me. Mark,

671
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: it feels like the Reggie Bush hype train rolled into

672
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Sessler corner. I think it's much more about Hide. I

673
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: think that Hide with gore out the door, and he's

674
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna be given a big chance to do his thing.

675
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: And I went back and watched him, and you know,

676
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: he'd He didn't have not all of his games were

677
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: shining last season, but he had some moments that made

678
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: me think that they could use him quite a bit.

679
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: And I Reggie Bush is not the reason I would

680
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: put them up at seventeen. But he's not a bad ascid.

681
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: He had a couple of games last year when he

682
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: was healthy were I thought he looked good. That's a

683
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: solid group. If Kendall Hunter gives him anything to that's

684
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: a good number three. Bush is a good number two.

685
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: If he's really the number two, we'll see about Hide.

686
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: I I like that you you know, weren't too biased.

687
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: You have the Jets. I would Motley Crew ahead of

688
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: your Browns. That poop that Jets poop poop latter, I'd

689
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: have down in the next year under under a few

690
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: teams well, as Mark remarks that they ranked third in

691
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: rushing last year. They got rid of Chris Johnson wisely

692
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: bringing Ridley. If Ridley comes back and he's healthy and

693
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: he's the Ridley that he was before the knee injury,

694
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: that's a really good back film the micrad I think

695
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: Chris Aubrey, they're all ifs in this backfield. I don't know.

696
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Chris Ivrey for two years now has been a guy

697
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: that ever had carries in the season. He fumbles a

698
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: lot and he gets injured a lot. Well part of

699
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: it you got to get the jets up high just

700
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: to get Dan on board and putting him a number twenty.

701
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: It's a good place too. Well, it's all I think

702
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: they should be hiring in fairness to pay. He is

703
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: not an IF. He is one of the most steady

704
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: law pals in the league. He's not very exciting, but

705
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: you know what, you're going to give him like a

706
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: new contract every five years for the next forty years.

707
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: They love him so much. I hate to be you know,

708
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: naturally we're picking this apart, but you did a great

709
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: job with the list. One team that really intrigues me

710
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: that I probably put a little higher just on potential,

711
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: and I know you didn't want to overrate the rookies

712
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: Girly and Tray Macee. Yeah. If I'm just ranking watchable

713
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: backfield or the backfields I want to watch this year

714
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: that that is in the top five for me. I

715
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: love Trey Mason and Todd Gurley. I'm just intrigued to

716
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: see what he's all about. I think it was. I

717
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: really tried to not overdo it with any rookie and

718
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: he's not healthy yet. But that said, they could be

719
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: ten spots higher by the time this season ends. What

720
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: did your male sources say about Panthers running back Cameron

721
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: artist Pain. I didn't get a lot of feel I

722
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: found out that if your name is not Adam Schefter,

723
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: that when you email thirty two NFL teams, they aren't

724
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: breaking down the doors to talk to someone they've never

725
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: heard of. You got some good you got some good stuff, Yeah,

726
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't hear anything about Cameron artists Pain kid. Yeah. Actually,

727
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: you know what DJ I believe I remember on move

728
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: This either him or Bucky liked Cameron artists Pain for

729
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: what cap did? I feel like the answers ranking you

730
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: would have had them higher, but Jonathan Stewart's injury history

731
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: was a factor. If he if he plays all sixteen games,

732
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: and you factor into some degree what Cam Newton does

733
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: on the ground that cost it didn't hurt them, It's

734
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: not gonna it's it's to me, really, the issue was

735
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: that Stewart. I feel like I've written seven thousand posts

736
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com about foot and lower leggage issues.

737
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: When he was healthy last season, he was a fireball.

738
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: He was great. But can He's missed twenty games in

739
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: three years. Ravens is the one that sticks out to me.

740
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: I if I was a GM, I'm not excited about

741
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: for set Talia Faro Alan, I think they could be

742
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: productive again. But I love I love him as a player.

743
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: But if you're just talking from scratch, is he a

744
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: better than average NFL starting running back? Just scheme independent?

745
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: You know they before last year, not before last I mean,

746
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: he was a guy who's a good guy to have,

747
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: and then you go after him. Talia Faro, Fitzgerald Toussant

748
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: makes your little list here of running backs. I don't

749
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: even know if it's Gerald. I couldn't spell half of

750
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: those great name. Fitz Gerald's not very literary next tier

751
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: number fifteen, the Washington Redskins fourteen, the Bears, that Bears,

752
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: number thirteen, the Denver Broncos, uh twelve, the Chargers and

753
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: eleven the Cults. The cults. Now we're starting to get

754
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: to the groups. Let's getting juicy. Look at Mark. When

755
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: Mark puts the team whoever he puts out eleven, they

756
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: should see that as a shot, because Mark said they're

757
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: not top ten material. To me, the inconvenient truth, I

758
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: feel like that's a back full backfield full question marks

759
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: um Frank Gore, I don't think, at his age is

760
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: one of the best backs in the league anymore. This

761
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: tier especially, I struggled because it was I've heard from

762
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: from Chicago that we're not excited about the Bears being there.

763
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: And part of me is this, like with Forte, it's

764
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: not a shot on Matt Forte. Part of it is depth,

765
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: and I look at the rest of that group. Carrie

766
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: was very unimpressive last season. I thought Langford's from what

767
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I've read, I haven't watched a lot of tape of

768
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: the guy, but he's just a he's a jag. And

769
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: so you got Jakey's Roger, So what happens if Forte

770
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: can't go wire to wire. I mean they they've used

771
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: him so much. If he plays the whole way, fine,

772
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: they were twenty seven and rushing last season with him

773
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: going the full way. Those are all excellent points. You're

774
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: right that they've struggled running. Forte is a backfield though

775
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: unto himself. Yeah he is. I mean again, and he's

776
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: a He caught out a hundred passes. He broke the

777
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: NFL records. So it's not a shot at Forte. But

778
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: there's no way I was. I didn't see them as

779
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: top ten. A lot of people going to disagree. Also,

780
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: uh went to to Lane University. You guys heard about that?

781
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Who went there? Great guy? Redskins. Redskins gonna be good.

782
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: People are talking about Matt Jones and so that's a

783
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: nice one to combination Alfred Morris. I would have them

784
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: a little higher. I have a question about that when

785
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: you say that Alfred Morris is a strong fit for

786
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: Bill Callahan's manpower scheme. Is that something um that one

787
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: of your sources said or no, Uh, that was done

788
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: through some research, and but what I also found was

789
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: that they're not married to just using that blocking scheme

790
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: that they're going to also continue with the zone, and

791
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: I do think he was good in zone too. He's

792
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: one cut runner, that's yeah. That's why I questioned it,

793
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: because he was drafted for the zone and that's all

794
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: he's ever played in. I know he's a power back,

795
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: but that doesn't always mean you do well in a

796
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: power scheme. Mark Well, that's fair. I love Callahan and

797
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: and I like hearing that they're not gonna just go

798
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: down one road with that. So he's also I think

799
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: he's not the only guy. I do think that it

800
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: sounds like uh Jones is gonna definitely threaten for some plane.

801
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Charges did a good job the Melvin Gordon move because

802
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: it solidifies it makes it look a lot better because

803
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: it went from a bunch of like guys you you're

804
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: not sure about too. Now it's a nice backfield. You

805
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: got Gordon, Brandon, Oliver, Danny Woodhead, Damn McDonald. Is there.

806
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: There's some guys that can run the football there. Maybe

807
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: they'll do a better job with it this year. I

808
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: really like Oliver and they absolutely needed to fill the

809
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Matthews void, and you know, Gordon. We don't know, but

810
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: the early reports are very good on him and Woodheads

811
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: a mismatch in the passing game place, all right? Moved

812
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: into the top ten. This is Harold ground. There's a

813
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: chasm between eleven and ten. Here we go the Texans

814
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: number ten, the Packers number nine, the Chiefs eight, the

815
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: Bills seven, and number six. Another shot missing the top

816
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: five the Bungles. Why do you got to pick on

817
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Yeah, they should have been in the top

818
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: five here. I don't know. I couldn't. I couldn't get

819
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: him in there, but I thought they and I and

820
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: Wesley was a big influence on me moving them up

821
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: to six from where I Hadn't you read West's love

822
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: letter to Jeremy Hill last week? Well did you read

823
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: marks piece because he calls West's piece brilliant? Well it was.

824
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: It was a good read. But I know what Jero.

825
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Part of it is Bernard Matt, you know, matched with Hill.

826
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: I think that they can do a lot and they

827
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball, probably even more than

828
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: they did last year. And I'm I'm just joking around here.

829
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: I actually I think I would have him even a

830
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: little bit higher, not much, I mean top five. You

831
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: have Hill, which, as West mentioned, in his Chasm piece

832
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: that this guy is ready to break out. Nobody was

833
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: better than the second half in terms of yards per

834
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: carrying it. I think yards overall, right, And then Bernard

835
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: is maybe the best receiver there is out there. And

836
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: and to that point, by the way, West, when you read,

837
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: when you read that piece that you wrote, the brilliant

838
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: piece again, it starts to feel like you might be

839
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: coming back. He's coming back to coming around again. Paid

840
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: are we where are we right now? With Where are

841
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: we right now? Well? I think because West just for

842
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Anny new listeners, just to set it up. West left

843
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: the team. He was so disgusted in the nineties. He

844
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: no longer follows the bangals. But it seems like, as

845
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Carly Simon once said, you might be coming around again. Well, look,

846
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: this is like an ex wife, and it's been twenty

847
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: years almost. It's not a good idea to hop back

848
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: in bed with your ex wife. But you know, feelings

849
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: you had buried in our in our latent. Sometimes research

850
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: don't if you allow them to resurface. And I think

851
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: the Ohio River offense piece allowed me to get back

852
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: in touch with some feelings I still had about their

853
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties teams in nineteen se How about the the

854
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: idea that the Bengals when you quit them, it was,

855
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, a partner that let herself go a little bit.

856
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: Now she's looking tight and looking really good and all

857
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden like, whoa, that's the woman I fell

858
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: in love with. I think that's that's that's valid. So

859
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: you're what you're saying, you could wake up, you know,

860
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: after a long night out hazy kind of come into

861
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: and metaphorically, Andy Dalton's right in bed next or at

862
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: least one text away, one late text and Andy Dalton

863
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: has a bit of a two bagger something. Wow. Some

864
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: of the great dramas end with that couple that's been

865
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: apart for so long. Kids are all upset, Well, my

866
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: dad get back together at the end. I think this

867
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: works on. I mean in my life, I've seen girlfriends

868
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: who have really made themselves more attractive and the feelings happen.

869
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals, Yeah, you're right. I mean, Jeremy Hill,

870
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: that's a fun guy to rud On, Geo, Bernard A. J. Green,

871
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, he loved her for a reason. You know,

872
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: those those feelings can resurface. I'm not saying they're there,

873
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: but it's more about the seventies and eighties Bengals. You

874
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: almost wish they kept Carson Palmer. No, no, that's not

875
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: sweetening the deal. I yeah, I have a theory that

876
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's the only thing now standing in the way

877
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: if they ever were to swap him out and get

878
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: something somebody exciting coming around. I know that, by the way,

879
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: there's only great teams ahead of these teams on the rankings.

880
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: But but Jamal Charles just continues to be the most

881
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: overlooked guy and if one of the best players in

882
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: the NFL the last five years, and he's got a

883
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: great backup in Nile Davis and Old Cessler just dropping him.

884
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: I think he's very consistent. Fourteen hundred total yards last year.

885
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: I think he had thirteen touchdowns in fourteen games or

886
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen games. Something got he wasn't as good

887
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: he I think at two thousand total years, he'd be

888
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: higher on on a ranking of running backs. But Nil Davis,

889
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: I think I just the rest of the list and

890
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: the way they use well. I just like the rest

891
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: of the list, and it's part of it is you

892
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: know you're gonna swing and missing some of these. Jamal

893
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Charles five point five yards per carrying his career, Jim

894
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: Brown five point two j Jamal Charles one of those

895
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: sneaky guys. If he had a good run here the

896
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: rest of the way, He's someone that will get some

897
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: conversation Hall of Fame that no one would think of

898
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: Jamal what seems to be hanging in the air here.

899
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Mark is like, this was a missed opportunity to give

900
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles a respect he deserves. I do respect him,

901
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm not a barbecue person, and

902
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: it's a good thing because I'm not gonna be going

903
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: to Kansas City anytime soon. Based on the feedback I've

904
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: gotten where I placed him, So I like that you

905
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: have the Bengals over the Bills. This was something that

906
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've gotten some feedback on this. On Twitter.

907
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I asked Evan Silva Rhoda World last week, would you

908
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: rather have Lashawn McCoy right now or Jeremy Hill for

909
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: the same salary, And a lot of people responded to

910
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: that and said, why would anyone take Lashawn McCoy. You know,

911
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: he's only two years removed from leading the NFL and rushing.

912
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: But I think Jeremy Hill is a better runner than McCoy,

913
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: and I think McCoy wasn't quite last year what we're

914
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: used to him being bold. I agree, I like I

915
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: like Bengals, that high bills, Fred Jackson. I mean, I'd

916
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: love me some Fred Jackson. But one of these years

917
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: it's got to end. Yeah. Part of with the Bengals

918
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: is Hugh Jackson. Yeah. And I'll say number number ten

919
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: the the Texans Aaron Foster. You know again, he didn't

920
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: play the whole season last year. That's gonna be a

921
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: bad quarter back group. There's gonna be that box is

922
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna be stacked. I think against it. That's gonna be tough.

923
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: And if he goes down. Are you getting excited about

924
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: Offord Blue? Yeah? I mean how excited are you gonna

925
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: get about that? I don't know. So I would think

926
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: maybe they would have been out of the top ten,

927
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: but so far, I love your list. Also, well, not

928
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: everyone does. Everyone I talked to you thinks they should

929
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: be top five, whether they're Tampa Bay or Tennessee or well,

930
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I just you know the fans. Oh, you don't like

931
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: the feedback you're getting? Care less breaking out that black

932
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: you know they have to come nice pool on the

933
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Carly Simon drop. He wasn't quite the fixing. In the seventh,

934
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: I've never heard that song popular song that well, it

935
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: was like a mid eighties hit. My my mother is

936
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: a huge Carly Simon fan and I grew up with

937
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: that her greatest hit CD on loop, so I know

938
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: every single notable Simon is the Nora from movie that.

939
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: That wasn't that song like the theme song of that

940
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: movie with Jack Nicholson And uh, oh as good as

941
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: it gets something heat, body heat, the body heat is

942
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: not yet. Uh. No cool car person ever has started

943
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: with the phrase what was that Nora fron that it

944
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: was called heartburn? I think it was because it came

945
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: out and uh, Carly Simon's coming around again came out. Ye,

946
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: that was the movie Jack Nicholson, Nail the stupid for

947
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that song Director's cut, Working Girl

948
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: and that and that concludes pop culture memories from Chris Wesley.

949
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: All Right, the top five here we go. This is

950
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: where Mark makes his money, his incredible salary, starting with

951
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: number five, the Pittsburgh Steelers Number five, with of course

952
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: the dynamic Leby on bell D'Angelo Williams behind him Andrey

953
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: Archer in the mix. Number four Nolan Saints with Mark Ingram, C. J. Spiller,

954
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Kelly Robinson the number three the Minnesota Vikings with Adrian Peterson,

955
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon, Matt right. Let me, let me just say

956
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: something about the the Vikes. Peterson's back and we you know,

957
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: and you just West you brought it up, so it's

958
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: a good way to get into it. Evan Silva, who's

959
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: a guy that we respect over at Rodal World, knows

960
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: his stuff. However, you know, everyone seems to think that

961
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: Leshawn McCoy is in declined because he wasn't as good

962
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: last year. He dropped the yard to carry uh in

963
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: his average, but ap dropped the yard and a half

964
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: two years ago. He's four years older, he has h

965
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: But I just don't understand why everyone thinks McCoy is

966
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: going downhill when yes he is, but he's also I

967
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: don't ever compared Leshawn McCoy to him. I think they're

968
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: held to different standards. I'm just saying Peterson when you

969
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: get down to and he's thirty, he's been out of

970
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: football for a year since. It's also a freak. The

971
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: last yes, the last year he did play, he was

972
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: a significantly lesser version than the guy that went nuts

973
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve. So to assume that he's still

974
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: that guy, I am I don't know, assume it despite

975
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: your protest protestations. I don't think he was significantly worse

976
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: last time around. Either the factors around him were worse

977
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: and he was a little worse. But I think he

978
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: he was still the best running back in the end.

979
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not coming off an injury. He's coming

980
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: off not being around, but he's kept in shape. Everyone

981
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: that's been around him said he looks like the same guy.

982
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: So part of me is like, I'll be I'm fine

983
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: being late on the Adrian Peterson trained on on announcing

984
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: his decline until it happens, because he is seems hell

985
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: bent unproving everyone well. I think he's the best player.

986
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: He's arguably the best player in the NFL over the

987
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: last ten years in terms of being at just the

988
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: best that his position. Since I've been working just covering football.

989
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: He's right there with the guys that you think have

990
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: a chance in twenty years that we'll be talking about

991
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: as one of you know, when they make those lists

992
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the top ten players everywhere, like he might be on

993
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: it if he has a good art. Perhaps point is,

994
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: you just feel like he can do anything. And I'm

995
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily doubting Peterson. I'm more saying that I feel

996
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: like people have been a little quick to jump to

997
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: saying that Lashawn McCoy is decline that's fair, and I

998
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: was Peterson's own dropping stats. But I yeah, I think

999
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: he proved that. Peterson when he went nuts in two

1000
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: thousand twelve, proved a lot of people wrong. Um, and

1001
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he's great again, But I

1002
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a problem with putting them third.

1003
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: You've got Derrick McKennon behind him, You've got two good backfields.

1004
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: We won't spoil him coming up. I was really surprised,

1005
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: and I know I could have voiced my opinion to

1006
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: you earlier. You gave me the option over the weekend,

1007
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: but I just thought this should be Mark's list. You

1008
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: don't need my input. The Saints number four, uh just

1009
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: uh talk about that. Well, this is this reminds me

1010
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: a little bit with some of the other teams where

1011
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: it's if Ingram stays healthy all season and he plays

1012
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: the way he did last year, and you pair him

1013
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: with what Sean Payton is going to do with c J. Spiller,

1014
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: with what he's proven he can do with c J.

1015
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: Spiller type guys. But Spiller is better than all those guys.

1016
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: I think if he's if he also stays healthy, this

1017
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: is a dynamic backfield and I I can't wait to

1018
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: see what New Orleans, Uh, their whole scheme is gonna change.

1019
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: We talked about that. I think they should be in

1020
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: the conversation for number one back I thought having them

1021
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: number four was really bold. That's what boom bust. That's

1022
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: why I didn't honestly want to give you what I thought,

1023
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: because then I would have just watered it down and say, well,

1024
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, that seems bold. It's good to be It's

1025
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: good to be bold. You believe in the Saints backfield.

1026
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: Believing in the Saints that that has never gone wrong

1027
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: for you or West Spillers never. Spiller has the guy

1028
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: calling place for him, and Scheming, who was the perfect

1029
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: compliment for his his skill set and also the perfect

1030
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: like guy compliment in their tandem, mark Ingram and c J.

1031
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Spiller are two different styles of backs, and they work

1032
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: really well together. I think they decide. How many other

1033
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: backfields here have a former making a leap candidate as

1034
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: the number three back Kyrie Robinson, who I really like.

1035
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: It's a little of it's a little of bold. But

1036
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: I got another one coming up that we haven't talked

1037
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: about yet. Uh any other thoughts on the five through three?

1038
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I mean that's just all Levian Bill.

1039
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: That's how high you regard that is. And I and

1040
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: I like levy On better, better than Jamal Charles or

1041
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy or Jeremy Hill. I have no problem with

1042
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: It's one guy that like. When I went back to

1043
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: watch collection of his of his games, I don't even

1044
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: think last season quite caught me how specially is. And

1045
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: when I talked to his former coach as well, he

1046
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: just said, this guy will be that player that we're

1047
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: talking about for another ten years. So I buy into

1048
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: him big time. And I think what he did last

1049
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: season was outstanding and they'll only get better. Actually, we

1050
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: should give you some credit here. Talking of Vikings running

1051
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: back to coach Kirby Wilson, broke a little news in

1052
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: terms of Wilson backing off Peterson in terms of his workload.

1053
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: Name checked Mark Sessler on NFL Total Access for this.

1054
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: This is the rhythm of the well. And if I

1055
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: had cable television, I would have seen that trepid Reporter

1056
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: three is your week your secret. It's obviously going to

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Speaker 1: be countered with a destructive, terrible week next week. It's

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Speaker 1: got a balance. We have the m v P award

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00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: up here for the podcast, but there is another type

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00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: of MVP award at the company. How mad would you

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00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: guys be if Cessler got his second one, I'd be

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00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: out of here. I would lose. I would West would

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 1: handle it fine. I would lose Dan as a friend.

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: They have an MVP award. Mark's already won it once.

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that any of us are getting He's

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00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: got a coin. I would have to give it to

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00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: Dan immediately just to save you. But I'm friends with

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00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: his whole family. What win with his toaster? You can

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00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: just make up rolls and passing map. Oh yeah, hey,

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00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: here's the toaster. West, you want it? But wait, your

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00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: last thing was a lot but ducking and we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have to do it that way. Oh I like that drama.

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: One day disturbing Don King will get them together number

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: two on this list. The twelves aren't gonna be happy

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00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: because they thought had this locked up. The Seattle Seahawks

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: always the brides maide number two, just like the bridesmaid

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Speaker 1: in Arizona at the Super Bowl when they blew it

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00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't give it to Marshawn Lynch. And yet

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Speaker 1: Mark says they're not number one. Their number two on

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: this list nothing to be ashamed of. Robert Turbin also

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00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: on that team, former making the leap candidate Christine Michael

1082
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: still not over that name Rod Smith, who was a

1083
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: great wide receiver for the Broncos before Y two. K

1084
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a nice little group. If the

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00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: Seahawks don't trust Kristin Michael enough to put him on

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: the field, why should you trust him enough to rank

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: them number one on your list. Part of it is, well, listen,

1088
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: they are Marshawn Lynch is unstoppable. But Michael I went

1089
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: and wrote a gigantic piece on him last summer and

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00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: he did me wrong. So I'm not gonna believe a

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00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: word of it until I see it. You're right, What

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Speaker 1: if the Seahawks taking a page out of the Colts

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00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: book puts up uh finalist Mark Sessler is running Backgrankings

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00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: this year. They it's been a long time since Seattle's

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00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: had anything nice said about them, so they're gonna need

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00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: to go down that road. I could see Richard Sherman

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00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: going after you about this. That ever you know, got

1098
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: on his radar. Seems like the twelve Sherman the Twelves

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: will hand take this one in stride and they, by

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00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: the way, they should be happy. There's a much stronger

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00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: case for moving them down below the Vikings, who have

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson on the list. I think the Steelers. If

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00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: you just want to make a case for Levy on Bell, yeah,

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: I means Marton Lynch is a brilliant running back, but

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00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: also spent like twelve percent of last season on an

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: exercise bike for some reason. You got it. Also of

1107
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: the season never ready for the beginning. Who knows what's

1108
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: going to happen. I did factor in Russell Wilson too.

1109
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean, only fifteen running backs had more yards than him.

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00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: He's part of that doesn't count. I didn't know that counted.

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00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: To redo the entire lest I started thirty two factoring

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00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: quarterbacks here we go, all right, and now number one backfield.

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00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: If you haven't figured it out, I'm sorry, you're stupid.

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00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: The Eagles with DeMarco Murray, Ryan Matthews, Darren Sprawls, Jim Barner,

1115
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Matthew Tucker Man Award. How about that. Congratulations to the Eagles, Mark,

1116
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Why are they the number one backfield in all of

1117
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: the National Football League? Well, it starts with Matthew Tucker. No,

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00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: I just I look at number one, Chip Kelly. Everyone

1119
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: was ridiculing Chip Kelly when the whole free agency thing happened.

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00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Gore walked out of the building. Chip Kelly's losing it.

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: He's probably be back at Oregon two years from now.

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: But instead you wind up with the best running back

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Speaker 1: from last season in the Offensive Player of the Year,

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00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: and Ryan Matthews, who is easily the best number two

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00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: back of anyone on this list. And we'll see a

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: ton of work I think this season. And then you

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00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: got Darren Sprawls, which is sort of like the best

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Speaker 1: number back on this Yeah. I don't know. This wasn't

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00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: really that hard for me. Uh, it's a great back field.

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Speaker 1: Is there a little concern in terms of like it's

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of a chemistry experiment to like, how do you

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: use these guys? How do you put them together? Do

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: you you know, give Ryan Matthews a quarter? Like how

1134
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: does this? How is this gonna work? You know? It

1135
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: is interesting is when I talked to Daniel Jeremiah, one

1136
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: thing he said that why this would work for Philly

1137
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: versus another team is that they're high. Their offense is

1138
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 1: so fast paced. That isn't just Ryan Matthews coming out

1139
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: for the occasional carry. It's you could do a full

1140
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Speaker 1: series with Ryan Matthews and a full series with Murray

1141
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: which running backs. If they're not gonna be willing to

1142
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: team that way, that could become a problem. But it's

1143
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: not just Ryan Matthews getting the occasional attempt. It's gonna

1144
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: get let them get in the flow. That makes a

1145
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: lot of sense because you know when they're playing hurry up,

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00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: when they're at their best, they're not making substitutions. I

1147
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: do wonder if Matthews can be a quality guy on

1148
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: passing downs that necessarily hasn't been his strength throughout his career.

1149
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: But that makes a lot of sense. And and this

1150
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: is a team that has more plays and runs to

1151
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: play with are they going to well, if he's he's

1152
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: if he's on the hole for the whole series, he's

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: on the field for passing down is what I'm thinking.

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00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball a lot. Yes, they are.

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Speaker 1: Everyone said that about Chip Kelly when he came to

1156
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's not really all about the past, and

1157
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: he's he's showing it. And I think if you're worried

1158
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: about their chemistry, I thought Ryan Matthews had some good

1159
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: comments last week and he was talking up to Marcomergy saying,

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: guy led the league in rushing. He deserves those hill

1161
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: of the coopters. He deserves the praise the helicopters for

1162
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, swirling overhead when he was you know, when

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00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles were recruiting him and he came in to sign,

1164
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: and Matthews said, he deserves all that. You know, we

1165
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: all buy into this system and and we'll be fine together.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's it. That is Mark's top thirty two

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Speaker 1: backfields in order. Congratulations Eagles. You don't have any Super Bowls,

1168
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: but you got this. Congratulations to Mark, what a performance,

1169
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: great work, what was fun to do. Thank you for

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00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: chatting about it. Right, that's it. Before before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here. Uh. If you are an l A

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Speaker 1: listener and you're looking for something to do on Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: please check out the premiere of a movie. It's called

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01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Flock of Dudes. It's playing at the l A Film

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Speaker 1: Fest right now. Directed by a good friend of the

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Speaker 1: show and a long long time friend of mine, Bob Castrone.

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Speaker 1: Uh tickets dot l A Filmfest dot com and search

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Speaker 1: Flock of Dudes. That's the world premiere of the movie.

1179
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: It's very funny, great comedy. Mark You and I checked

1180
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: out one of the screenings earlier this year, didn't we

1181
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: It was great? I mean I it was. I didn't

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: know what would happen or what will happen with it.

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: I think big things. But it's the kind of thing

1184
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: that has kind of a it's people were gonna be

1185
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: watching it like a cult type of comedy for a

1186
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: long time. It's well acted. Jason zelmald Or other friend

1187
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: the listener of the show was a writer. There is

1188
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: a character loosely based on Dan Hansis is that right?

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01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: A little bit? I was involved with this project way

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01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: back when a little bit, so I do have a

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01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: connection to it as well. But please go see the movie,

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: Your Lovely Wife, Emily, my lovely sweet wife, was the

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: casting director. So yes, it is a bit of a

1194
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: passion project for my circle of friends. So check it out.

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01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: Tickets dot l a film Fest dot com, search flock

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Speaker 1: up dudes. Tuesday, ten pm. Right, that's it. Dan Hans

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Speaker 1: is signing off for the great I mean Studley Mark Sessler.

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: They call him quiet Storm and Big Delivery. Didn't leave

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Speaker 1: a lot of meat on that bone today with that article.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Joseph Randall's words, not such a quiet storm

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Speaker 1: today's show. And of course the Mailman, the Boss. More

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Speaker 1: great work by Sully behind the Glass, and of course

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Speaker 1: the Irishman Random Against. Thank you for listening to Wednesday