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Speaker 2: I'll get you there quicker. All right, I don't know

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Speaker 2: where to start, Oh, I know exactly where to start.

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Speaker 1: Today in the Oval Office, where one of the most

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Speaker 1: extraordinary meetings between a world leader and a president occurred

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Speaker 1: today it was between President Trump and the Ukrainian presidents Lenski.

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Speaker 1: I'll use the word extraordinary because we haven't seen anything

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Speaker 1: like this in a long time. It actually turned into

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Speaker 1: a shouting match on live television. It was app absolutely

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Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. A lot of us have seen it.

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Speaker 1: I've read the transcript a few times. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of takes surrounding the falloff from many in that meeting,

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Speaker 1: and the media is calling it a major break in

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Speaker 1: an alliance. I have a little bit different theory in this.

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Speaker 1: I think, Amanda, this is just the breakup before the makeup.

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Speaker 2: I think this had to happen to Edie gets.

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Speaker 1: Some old emotions and ideas out, and I think they

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Speaker 1: will come back and get a deal together and get

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Speaker 1: on the same page. Because one, Zelenski doesn't have anywhere

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Speaker 1: to go. Two, the President has a pretty good deal

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Speaker 1: in place with Russia. I think Ukrainians surprised what's in

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Speaker 1: the deal U and Three Europe has moved towards President

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Speaker 1: Trump a lot in the last few of the meetings

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Speaker 1: with Starmer and Macron. This week, for instance, Great Britain

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Speaker 1: showed that they're much close to the Donald Trump's plan

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Speaker 1: than they were just even two weeks ago. I think

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Speaker 1: Zelenski's an island if he doesn't tonight. The President just

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Speaker 1: said a few minutes ago, Zelenski's already looking to come back. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe get it done this weekend. I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty big dynamic. I'd love to get

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Speaker 1: your take. And then, also, what other headlines you've been

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: The unfortunate thing for President Zelensky is that, especially following yesterday's.

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Speaker 3: Comments by Prime Minister.

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Speaker 4: Starmer where he said this is a great deal for

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Speaker 4: you know, I think Ukraine's going to like it, and

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Speaker 4: I think the rest of the world's going to like it.

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Speaker 4: With what happened today, Honestly, John, and I hate to

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Speaker 4: say it, it makes Putin look like the reasonable, agreeable one,

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Speaker 4: because Putin's the one he has already.

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Speaker 2: I know they work hard to make himok Razi.

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Speaker 4: And it's a long walk for a sure drink of water.

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Speaker 4: I realize that, But you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much of this.

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Speaker 4: It almost feels like someone was in Zelenski's ear before

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Speaker 4: this meeting, saying you can win this, stand up to

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Speaker 4: him or something. But he didn't win over the American

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Speaker 4: people with it, and that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I listen, I think it may have

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Speaker 1: just been organic. It might have just there's some old

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, Ukraine can't.

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Speaker 1: Survive this war without the United States right by its side.

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Speaker 1: And President Trump was pretty clear there's an ultimatum that

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Speaker 1: came out of this. Either you pursue peace or we leave,

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Speaker 1: meaning the US won't be behind your back anymore. That's

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Speaker 1: going to make any president of any country think, particularly

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Speaker 1: one who's been through three years of war like he's been.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna learn a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of developments all

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Speaker 1: week in long, justin whwos going to have you covered

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Speaker 1: as is real America's voice all week and long, so

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Speaker 1: as news breaks, we're going to be right there with

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, here's a lot of other things going

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Speaker 2: on in Washington, like.

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Speaker 1: Saving money and getting some sanity backing government, shrinking the

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Speaker 1: size of government. One of the folks on the front

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Speaker 1: lines of that extraordinary effort. It is a historic effort

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Speaker 1: By the way, I can't remember a time where a

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Speaker 1: budget plan was done before March first. In this town.

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Speaker 1: He's joining us from Congress. He represents the great state

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Is Congressman Andy Ogle. So good to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show. Absolutely, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: What a day, what a week? What a Congress? I mean,

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Speaker 5: holy cow.

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Speaker 6: I mean I wake up every morning making sure I

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Speaker 5: But Matt, what a great time to be alive under

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Speaker 5: the administration of President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. The history is happening by the moment,

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Speaker 1: and it's really exciting. You've been one of the most

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Speaker 1: important voices and one of the most consistent voices when

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Speaker 1: it says it's time to cut government. We got a

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Speaker 1: shrink government. I want to turn to a second, but

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Speaker 1: first I just like to get your reaction. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the media is trying to make this as a

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Speaker 1: permanent riff.

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Speaker 2: Europe's going to fall apart.

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Speaker 1: This felt just like a little thing, maybe a breakoup

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Speaker 2: What's your what's your take on today?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think one it was a huge mistake

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Speaker 6: on Zelensky's part to challenge President Trump in front of

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Speaker 6: the media. I mean, you don't have to be an

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Speaker 6: expert a psychologists to kind of get a feel for

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Speaker 6: President Trump and his personality.

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Speaker 5: And so he screwed up.

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Speaker 6: There's no denying, and unfortunately, I think this gives kind

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Speaker 6: he's going to go into it with some confidence. But

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Speaker 6: that being said, you know, I think this is President

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Speaker 6: Trump part of the deal.

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Speaker 5: He put Zelensky in his place.

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Speaker 6: We want the minerals deal, and that's what President is seeking.

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Speaker 5: And I think, like you said, I.

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Speaker 6: Think by weekend, the end of the weekend, we probably

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Speaker 6: have something, some new framework in place for the minerals deal.

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Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, what President Trump

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to do is commit us to an agreement

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Speaker 6: that ultimately starts World War three.

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Speaker 5: And that's the typewrope that we're walking here.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point, and he said that again today.

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Speaker 5: You're right, sir.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you, speaking of framework, about the

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Speaker 4: framework that House Republicans put together on Tuesday in that

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Speaker 4: budget resolution. A pretty nice framework going forward. I understand

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Speaker 4: that there are a lot of fiscal hawks who are

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Speaker 4: saying it doesn't go far enough. Who want to cut

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Speaker 4: more waste, broaden abuse than I am all here for that.

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Speaker 4: But how satisfied were you with it on Tuesday?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, obviously I would have wanted more. But

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Speaker 6: that being said, we got it done. It's the first

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Speaker 6: step in the process, and ultimately, again in a negotiation,

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Speaker 6: you put your strongest foot forward. I think what will

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Speaker 6: likely happen with the Senate is they will make the

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Speaker 6: tax cuts permanent. They're going to lower or cut some

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Speaker 6: the ratios will be somewhat off. But at the end

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Speaker 6: a quicker process because it's a simple majority. I think

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Speaker 6: the other thing that we'll tackle is the debt saal language,

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Speaker 6: because what you don't want to do is give the

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Speaker 6: President Trump wants that off of.

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Speaker 5: The table the negotiations, etc.

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Speaker 6: So I was at the White House just a couple

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Speaker 6: of days ago, and he certainly mentioned that again is

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Speaker 6: let's make sure we get rid of that debt ceiling.

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Speaker 6: So but we're in a good spot. Again, I think

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Speaker 6: it could be better, it could be stronger. But as

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Speaker 6: one of the most conservative members of Congress, until we

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Speaker 6: not going.

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Speaker 2: To be happy. Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Actually, the Senate has larger cuts, So actually the Senate

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Speaker 1: deeper cuts, which is an interesting dynamic when we when

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Speaker 1: we look at that, when you take a look at

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Speaker 1: what Elon Musk has done, no matter where Congress sets

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Speaker 1: the budget limits, Donald Trump and Elon Musk cut further down.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to spend everything that Congress authorizes. You

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Speaker 1: How impressed are you with Elon Musk? What does Elon

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Speaker 5: You think, Yeah, keep auditing.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's why, you know, I identified eleted judges

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Speaker 6: and his agenda, you know, and so I have articles

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Speaker 6: of impeachment against two of them. Keep in mind, you know,

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Speaker 6: high crimes and misdemeanors is the standard for impeachment. But

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Speaker 6: I would argue, when you have a judge that has

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Speaker 6: James Madison warned us about an overactive, all too powerful judiciary,

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Speaker 6: and we're at that crossroads, and we better take note

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Speaker 4: If you impeach one of these judges, I know McConnell

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Speaker 4: the rest of judges across this country who might want

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Speaker 4: to be more political.

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Speaker 6: Well, again, they have every right to be political at

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Speaker 6: not to a political party. They sore an oath to

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Speaker 6: they've let that seep into their decisions. And again I

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Speaker 6: uphold the Constitution, and do your job, and in the

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Speaker 6: Congress will do ours. And one of those jobs is impeachment.

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Speaker 6: So I'll keep prodding my friend Speaker Mike Johnson to

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Speaker 6: let me bring up one of my articles of impeachment.

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Speaker 6: We'll see how successful I am. But at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, it's important to point these individuals out,

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Speaker 6: these judges out and hold them accountable, hold their feet

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Speaker 6: to the fire, because if they're doing this to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 6: they're doing it to me, They're doing it to the

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Speaker 6: American people, and that's not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: I think people just wanted that accountability. What you're trying

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Speaker 1: to bring to the table now, it's going to be accountability.

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Speaker 1: Feeling good right now? Think you have another important thing

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Speaker 1: you're doing. You're moving to make sure that the Epstein

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Speaker 1: files don't get shreddit, moved, or destroyed by someone in

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Speaker 1: the FBI or some other intelligence agency. It was an

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Speaker 6: Well, it's called the Pedo Act, obviously pedophile, but it's

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Speaker 5: Quote unquote JFK files. Come on, give me a break.

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Speaker 6: And So what my bill does is it requires all

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Speaker 5: And look, I'm moldn't happy to hold anybody accountable or

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Speaker 4: There seems to be an epidemic of undermining. We saw

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like it. What in the private sector will

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 5: We have tons of legislation.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a piece of news. We've got to keep

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Speaker 2: Congressman, as always, you're always keeping us on the edge

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Speaker 2: of exciting news. It's a great honor to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us on this Friday night.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, have a good night.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Folks. We're going to take a

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody, im audible because that news that we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Congressman, and the Ogles is always pushing the imagination,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. I think that's right. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this moment just had to happen to get some of

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Speaker 1: that emotion out.

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Speaker 8: And then, yeah, because the European Union needs and also

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Speaker 8: the new American administration a time to to to engage

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Speaker 8: and to understand each other. So these will not happen

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Speaker 8: in two days. We need some time to to understand

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Speaker 8: each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of wisdom in that.

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Speaker 2: So I want to get back to here for a second.

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Speaker 1: But I want folks who don't know your personal story,

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Speaker 1: you have been a champion for freedom in Iran for

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Speaker 1: a long time, champion of freedom in Europe as well.

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Speaker 1: The Iranian regime didn't appreciate your support of the Iranian people.

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Speaker 1: Tell for those in our audiences who don't know what

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Speaker 1: happened to you, what happened to you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't appreciate. And the way they have to

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Speaker 8: express their lack of appreciation is shoot you in the head.

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Speaker 8: So on the ninth of November twenty twenty three, I

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Speaker 8: suffered a terrorist attack in Madrid. Full daylight had been

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Speaker 8: shot me in the phase. The bullet went through my

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Speaker 8: jaws and destroyed my jaws. Of course, I was very

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Speaker 8: lucky because like President Trump, I was very lucky because

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Speaker 8: I did a movement in the last second that saved

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Speaker 8: my life. And after the gun of the of the

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Speaker 8: his criminal was jumped, so he couldn't repeat it.

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Speaker 7: He couldn't just.

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Speaker 8: Because normally these professionals of crime should use three or

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Speaker 8: four times, right, But after the first shot the gun

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Speaker 8: was jumped, So it was a double miracle. Thanks God,

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Speaker 8: sometimes the providence reminds us. So I'm very thankful for that.

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Speaker 8: And yes, it's a plot organized by the Iranian regime,

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Speaker 8: as they have done against many other Iranian dissidents in

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Speaker 8: the world, and also in the last years they attacked

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Speaker 8: Western political personalities right here in the state. There was

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Speaker 8: a plot to kill John Bolton, another plot to kill

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Speaker 8: my Poppel.

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Speaker 7: There has been a.

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Speaker 8: Recent plot in Canada to kill a former Minister of Justice.

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Speaker 8: So they are they are really aggressive, and frankly, we

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Speaker 8: should change our policy of appiastment and concessions to this

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Speaker 8: criminal regim very important.

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Speaker 4: So earlier, when John and I were remarking about your courage,

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Speaker 4: you very humbly remark that it was forced upon you.

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Speaker 4: I would respectfully disagree because I think that in the aftermath,

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Speaker 4: that's when your true courage has shown through, because you

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Speaker 4: haven't back down.

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Speaker 8: Yes, the intention of the Iranian regime, the Iranian tyranny,

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Speaker 8: was to eliminate what they considered an enemy, to eliminate

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Speaker 8: and to scare all other European and American politicians and

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Speaker 8: academy professors that support them Italian resistance and work to

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Speaker 8: bring democracy and freedom to Iran, and these I has

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Speaker 8: got fire because I am more determined than ever.

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Speaker 7: To go on with this.

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Speaker 8: Work, or if you want, you can call it a mission,

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Speaker 8: and all the people. I work with a lot of

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Speaker 8: network in Europe here in America, and we are all

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Speaker 8: fully committed, and the result of this Violet doc has

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Speaker 8: read exactly the opposite.

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Speaker 7: Of what they don't energy wanted.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to many expatriots and keeping people in Iran

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Speaker 1: and talked to them through encrypto channels, and when you

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Speaker 1: got back up and you game right back out and

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Speaker 1: came out for freedom again, it's given those people in

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Speaker 1: that country great inspiration.

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Speaker 2: We've just got about a minute left.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask what are the steps that Europe

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Speaker 1: needs to do to move from appeasement to the sort

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Speaker 1: of crackdown that would lead to regime change in Iran,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's the ultimate solution.

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Speaker 8: Yes, we have published in a thin Tangai chair based

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Speaker 8: in Brussels very recently a white paper entitled Europe's Failed

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Speaker 8: Policy toord. In this paper we say basically two things. One,

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Speaker 8: the policy of appeasment, dialogue, negotiation, concessions, hostage shopping, all

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Speaker 8: these has failed.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't work. We have done this.

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Speaker 8: For forty years and the result has been done. The

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Speaker 8: regime is accelerating its program, is generating war, bogering and

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Speaker 8: terror everywhere. The attack to Israel on the seventh of October,

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Speaker 8: the regime, Iranian regime was behind it.

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Speaker 7: So this policy has failed, does not work.

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Speaker 8: It's counterproductive because the Onion regime understands these policy as

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Speaker 8: weakness and that increases their aggressive So we must give

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Speaker 8: up this policy. What must we do well? We must

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Speaker 8: increase pressure and the regime diplomatically. Politically, we must harden

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Speaker 8: sanctions in Europe. We must designate the Evolution regards as

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Speaker 8: terrorist organization. What we have not done yet, I don't

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Speaker 8: know what are they waiting for these European governments. And

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Speaker 8: of course we must support the Iranian people in their

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Speaker 8: brave struggle against this tyranny and the Iranian resistance, the

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Speaker 8: Iranian organized opposition, the natural Council of Resistance of Iran led.

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Speaker 8: But this heroic and charismatic woman Mariam Rojovi. We must

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Speaker 8: recognize them, must legitimate oppositional group, put them and support.

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Speaker 7: The ir Onion the Onion people.

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Speaker 8: So we much not make the life of these easy,

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Speaker 8: We much make their life difficult.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely good recipe, Sir. I know that the fight is far.

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Speaker 4: From over for Iran, but with people like you in it,

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Speaker 4: I feel a little bit more hopeful that it's coming soon.

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Speaker 7: Well, fortunately we are many.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, that's fight to to give the id onion people

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Speaker 8: what they deserve.

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Speaker 4: A Vice President al Ajovidal, thank you so much for

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Speaker 4: being here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to you, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: All Right, everybody, we're going to take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back America. The drama keeps playing out here in Washington.

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Speaker 1: President's alesk. He just got off of Fox News. He

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Speaker 1: was very gracious. He thanked the American people and President

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Speaker 1: Trump for supporting Ukraine throughout the war and helping him

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Speaker 1: survive these last three years. But he appointedly declined to

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Speaker 1: apologize and said saying, listen, we just got to keep

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Speaker 1: talking more. Maybe some of it has to happen behind

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Speaker 1: the cameras, away from the cameras. We'll get this right.

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Speaker 1: Pretty remarkable conversation there. As I said, I think this

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Speaker 1: is just a break up before the makeup. I think

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Speaker 1: things are going to get better quickly. We've got the

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Speaker 1: perfect next guest to walk us through everything that just

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Speaker 1: happened over the last fours eighty hours here in Washington.

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Speaker 1: She's the former deputy National Security advisor to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: He's also the Vice president of National Security and Foreign

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Speaker 1: Policy at the Very Good Heritage Foundation. She's our good friend,

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Speaker 1: Victoria Coates.

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Speaker 9: Victoria, great to have you back on, good to be on,

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Speaker 9: and great to see the two of you behind the

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Speaker 9: same desk.

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Speaker 2: I love having Amanda her. It's just been so great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You have been in the diplomacy a long time, in security

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Speaker 1: a long time. Some of the media writing this as

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Speaker 1: this is an epic breach in American history. It seems

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Speaker 1: to be like a little emotional outbreak and a little

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Speaker 1: blip on a large radar. How should we look at

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Speaker 1: what happened today?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that this was entirely predictable. President Trump

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Speaker 9: packs very seriously the dispersal of American taxpayer dollars. He's

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Speaker 9: been concerned for a long time about the way the

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Speaker 9: Biden administration had been writing a blank check on Ukraine

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Speaker 9: with no oversight, and he's wanted to end this war.

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Speaker 9: He's wanted to end the killing, and so I think

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Speaker 9: it should come as no surprise that what he was

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Speaker 9: looking for out of President Zelensky today was gratitude. And

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Speaker 9: you know, if there were going to be differences, I

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Speaker 9: strongly agree those should have been aired behind closed doors.

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Speaker 2: You know, the.

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Speaker 9: President and the Vice President were perfectly cordial with President

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Speaker 9: Zelensky for a long period of time before the dust

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Speaker 9: up at the end, which to my listen, was initiated

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Speaker 9: by Zolensky. He was the one who became pretty obstruperous.

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Speaker 9: I might have led with thank you rather than wait

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Speaker 9: until the interview with Brett bare to make that so clear.

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Speaker 9: But I agree with you, John, I do think that

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Speaker 9: it is possible to get this back on an even keel,

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Speaker 9: if that's what Zelensky wants. I didn't think President Trump

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Speaker 9: left that open in his truth social post yet.

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Speaker 4: To get to that place, though, I feel like there

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Speaker 4: has to be a bit of an attitude change. There's

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Speaker 4: there's that old adage that you teach people how to

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Speaker 4: treat you by what you tolerate, and it's very clear

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Speaker 4: that under Joe Biden, the meetings that Zelensky had with Biden,

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Speaker 4: there was a very different tolerance level. Do you think

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Speaker 4: that Zelensky walked away from this meeting realizing that the

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Speaker 4: next time around, there's got to be a bit of.

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Speaker 3: An attitude change, And.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 9: Say yes, that there has been a market disconnect between

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Speaker 9: the way Zelensky is personally sort of welcomed and praised

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Speaker 9: and generally, you know, sort of elevated to sainthood by

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Speaker 9: not only the Biden administration but also most of our

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Speaker 9: European partners and allies. And they've all been out on

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Speaker 9: X today talking about how much they support Ukraine. The

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Speaker 9: top diplomat for the EU, former Estonian President Kayak Collis,

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Speaker 9: came out and said, we need a new leader for

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Speaker 9: the free world. Excuse me, I mean that is ridiculous.

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Speaker 9: What Zelenski did was a mistake. And if he wants

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Speaker 9: to write this with the United States, I'm sure President

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Speaker 9: Trump will come to some sort of agreement with him.

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Speaker 9: But a lesson until the Europeans poney up and actually

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Speaker 9: take the lead on this war, I'm sorry, they need

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Speaker 9: to get in the backseat and stop complaining. And my

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Speaker 9: big question John and Amanda, and I'd be curious to

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Speaker 9: know your views on this is if Europe is so united,

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Speaker 9: the EU is so united behind Ukraine, why isn't Ukraine

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Speaker 9: in the EU three years after the war started. Isn't

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Speaker 9: that a much better way to declare solidarity than putting

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Speaker 9: them into a military alliance like NATO.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the answers A great point.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point, it really is.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn to some of the things we

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Speaker 1: saw in the Oval Office before as Zelenski came. I

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Speaker 1: thought the meeting essay with Prime Minister Starmer from Great

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Speaker 1: Britain and McCrone and France early in the week, Europe

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Speaker 1: has moved much closer to Donald Trump's position than it

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Speaker 1: was just two weeks ago, which probably he takes away

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Speaker 1: even more leverage from Zelenski long term. I think the

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Speaker 1: piece deal that's on the table, as Europeans are getting

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Speaker 1: to understand it, is probably one of the best things

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Speaker 1: they're going to get given the circumstances. How should we

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Speaker 1: read the comments from Starman Macron earlier this week.

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 9: And I think this Starmer visit is particularly important because

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Speaker 9: he and President Trump don't know each other well. President

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Speaker 9: Macrawl and President Trump had four years of relationship during

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Speaker 9: the first term at state dinners, state visits. Missus Macro

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Speaker 9: and Missus Trump are very friendly, so you know that's

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Speaker 9: an established relationship. With Prime Minister Starmer, you might think

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Speaker 9: if Donald Trump is such so incapable of diplomacy and

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Speaker 9: international relations with our European partners, that he might have

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Speaker 9: had a very abrasive meeting with the extremely liberal, far

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Speaker 9: left labor Prime Minister Kir Starmer, who's his own cabinet

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Speaker 9: has said horrible things about Donald Trump during the election,

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Speaker 9: things that you should have had them fired for. Because,

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Speaker 9: as most smart people who understand how this works know,

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Speaker 9: the reason we call this the special relationship between the

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Speaker 9: UK and the US is there are security elements to

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Speaker 9: this that have to go forward regardless of who's Prime

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Speaker 9: Minister and who's president. So I think what was on

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Speaker 9: display yesterday with the PM visit was that President Trump

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Speaker 9: knows that and even somebody he doesn't agree with on politics,

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Speaker 9: not one little bit, somebody who's been insulting to him,

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Speaker 9: whose administration has been insulting to him, he is going

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Speaker 9: to get along with them because he has to to

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Speaker 9: keep that relationship going on and it does need to.

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Speaker 9: So I think that was a display of how this

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Speaker 9: should be working. I think, by contrast, what happened with

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Speaker 9: President Zelensky was a total I think miscalculation on the

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Speaker 9: Ukrainian President's part about what President Trump would tolerate.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: And to that end, before we let you go, I

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Speaker 4: want to ask you about the Russian perspective, because regardless

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Speaker 4: of who you think was in the wrong today or

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Speaker 4: who you think was in the right with that friction

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Speaker 4: taking place, Russia was certainly watching. I'm concerned that there

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Speaker 4: will be a tactical advantage for Putin and Russia that

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Speaker 4: goes beyond what has already been agreed upon.

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Speaker 9: Well, those are valid concerns, Amanda. And as I was

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Speaker 9: commenting to one of one of my teammates at Heritage today,

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Speaker 9: here's another weekend laid waste by Vladimir Putin. I supposed

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Speaker 9: to go to Bucks County with my husband tonight. Not

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Speaker 9: so much that that's happening anymore. And this is not

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Speaker 9: the first time that something related to Putin's war in

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Speaker 9: Ukraine has destroyed our plans. So I'm not in any

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Speaker 9: way a Putin apologist. But I don't think that what

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Speaker 9: the Biden administration did, which was cut off negotiations or

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Speaker 9: discussions with the Russians three years ago, has been in

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Speaker 9: any way productive. And President Reagan didn't do that with

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Speaker 9: the Soviets in the Cold War. They kept talking and

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Speaker 9: those were useful lines of commununication. And I think that's

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Speaker 9: what President Trump is trying to do. The things that

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Speaker 9: have happened so far, the rhetoric, even the United Nations

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Speaker 9: General Assembly resolution are all very low cost to the

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Speaker 9: United States. Even the diplomatic dust up today doesn't really

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Speaker 9: cost us anything. It might tempt Putent to the table.

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Speaker 9: It might make him more likely to come and try

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Speaker 9: to cut a deal, and that would end the war,

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Speaker 9: which is President Trump's goal. So I think maybe the

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Speaker 9: Russians feel encouraged by this, but they should look at

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Speaker 9: President Trump's actions. I think unleashing American energy, this mineral

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Speaker 9: deal with Ukraine, which I strongly believe should be back

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Speaker 9: on the table. You know, those are material things that

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Speaker 9: hurt Russia, and so I would say that maybe words

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Speaker 9: are going one way, actions could potentially go another.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, just real quick, we got about a minute left.

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Speaker 1: The deal that seems to be emerging looks like you

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Speaker 1: Russia would give some land back, they'd allow for peacekeepers,

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Speaker 1: would be a DMZ. There's even some talk that some

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Speaker 1: of the frozen assets would go to Ukraine to help

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Speaker 1: rebuild part of Ukraine from the destruction from some of

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Speaker 1: the Europeans who know what's in it, or they're like,

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty good deal given where Russia stands

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Speaker 1: on the front lines. What is your take on the

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Speaker 1: details that have eked out a little bit.

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Speaker 9: Well, I have a lot of confidence in my good

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Speaker 9: friend Keith Kellogg in Secretary Review in Congress, National Security Advisor,

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Speaker 9: Sorry Waltz. So the people who are looking at this

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Speaker 9: are professionals, and I agree that this looks like it's

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Speaker 9: going to be pretty reasonable. I think the key things

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Speaker 9: we need to have though, are much more robust European

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Speaker 9: investment in defense. That is what will actually deter Putin

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Speaker 9: from doing this again.

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Speaker 5: And also going back.

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Speaker 9: To that minerals deal, if you have US companies in

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Speaker 9: the private sector and US government interests in Ukraine, which

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Speaker 9: is what that deal represents, that will also give Putent pause.

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Speaker 9: And for me, the bottom line is don't let them

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Speaker 9: do this again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, right, That's that is an ultimate outcome

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Speaker 1: we need to get.

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Speaker 2: Has always been joy.

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Speaker 1: We get a great bottom line from you every time

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Speaker 1: you come on the show.

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Speaker 2: Great honor to have you on. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I know you got a busy week in ahead, all right, folks,

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Speaker 1: were gonna take a kok criminals.

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Speaker 2: For break when we come back. We teased it earlier.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have the former ambassador US Ambassador den back,

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Speaker 1: Carlo sands On here. She's got some really good insights.

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Speaker 1: We'll have those right after these messages.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back everybody to just the news, no noise.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep talking about that meeting today. Because I don't

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Speaker 3: know about you, John, but when I was watching it,

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Speaker 3: I had a blast.

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Speaker 4: This is one of the many reasons that I love

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Speaker 4: doing news because this was something that was unprecedented, and

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Speaker 4: I think that the America people would agree when they

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Speaker 4: were watching it with us. Now, to help break that

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Speaker 4: down a little bit more, is our former US Ambassador

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Speaker 4: to Denmark. She is also the vice chair for Energy

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Speaker 4: Environment for the America First Policy Institute, one of our

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Speaker 4: favorite organizations. Carla sands thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 10: It's great to be with you and John have it.

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Speaker 4: Good to have you and you know, a historic day

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Speaker 4: for some strange I don't want to say strange reasons,

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Speaker 4: but reasons that I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think any of us expected.

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Speaker 4: There was a certain rhetoric going into today, even following

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Speaker 4: yesterday with the UK Prime Minister's visit affirming that this

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Speaker 4: was a good deal for Ukraine. It seemed like all

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Speaker 4: systems were go and then things went south.

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Speaker 3: Your top line thoughts, Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I saw the Cure starmer meeting with President Trump yesterday.

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Speaker 11: It seemed to go really, really well. And there's no

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Speaker 11: way that Vladimir Zelenski was in the Oval Office with

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Speaker 11: the President and the entire team without that deal beaten

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Speaker 11: buttoned down and him having said yes, I'm signing it.

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Speaker 11: They were ready to have the signing ceremony and lunch

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Speaker 11: after they did that press avail, and what did we see?

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Speaker 11: He went into the Oval and he retraded that deal.

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Speaker 11: He tried to jam up President Trump and Jade Vance,

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Speaker 11: but especially President Trump and get him to commit to

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Speaker 11: a security guarantee, something that is never on the table.

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Speaker 11: So that's pretty shocking that a guy that the US

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Speaker 11: taxpayers have literally borrowed money and sent what is it,

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Speaker 11: more than three hundred billion dollars of I think he

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Speaker 11: said he can't account for one hundred billion of that,

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Speaker 11: and this is the corrupt country of Ukraine. We don't

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Speaker 11: the American people do not want to pay for another

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Speaker 11: yacht for Zolensky.

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Speaker 10: We are unwilling. And so that was a.

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Speaker 11: Really an unforced error on Zolensky's hand, and I really

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Speaker 11: don't know what comes next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the president from your service to him.

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Speaker 1: And I think that even when there are moments of

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Speaker 1: blow ups like this, it happened with Kim Jong Owen's

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Speaker 1: help with other leaders, even people in his own orbit

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Speaker 1: in the domesticless space. But he's always aiming to get

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Speaker 1: that goal done. And if Zelensky were to come back

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Speaker 1: in some way, and I think he's beginning to make

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Speaker 1: gestures tonight, Trump still wants to end this work because

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Speaker 1: he really wants to end the lives loss. What do

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Speaker 1: you think is the right approachment for Zelensky? What should

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Speaker 1: he do to get this feel back online?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the first step would have been to apologize,

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Speaker 11: and he didn't. And then he had an opportunity when

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Speaker 11: he was just interviewed on Fox not long ago, and

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Speaker 11: he declined, I mean, he is so toned deaf to

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Speaker 11: come to the United States to jam up President Trump

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Speaker 11: to I mean back to walk back a deal that

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Speaker 11: was done when people are dying every day and hundreds

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Speaker 11: of thousands of people have died in this war. It's

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Speaker 11: the treasure the young males from Ukraine, mostly males from

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Speaker 11: Ukraine and from Russia. That's their future, the future of

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Speaker 11: these two nations. This war should have never happened, wouldn't

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Speaker 11: have happened if President Trump had been.

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Speaker 10: In the White House.

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Speaker 11: But Joe Biden almost invited it in when he said

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Speaker 11: from the podium, if there's a minor Russian incursion into Ukraine,

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Speaker 11: we're going to let it go. And he did say that,

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Speaker 11: he did.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you about a very specialized perspective

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Speaker 4: that you have as ambassador, because one of the infamous

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Speaker 4: shots from today's UH Press presser was the Ukrainian Ambassador

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Speaker 4: to the United States with her head in her hands.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of that?

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Speaker 10: Well, that was a despondent woman.

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Speaker 11: She knew the deal was off because of Zolensky and

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Speaker 11: because he was interrupting the President and JD.

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Speaker 10: Evans, he was talking over them.

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Speaker 11: He was you know, he was threatening for the President

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Speaker 11: and the American people. And he did it before. During

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Speaker 11: the Biden administration. I heard threats come from him, sometimes

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Speaker 11: veiled threats. Today it was an exact threat and in

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Speaker 11: the Oval Office. It's so shameful. You know, I know

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Speaker 11: the President's a deal's guy. I'm not sure that this

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Speaker 11: is the guy that can get a deal done. And

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's on the President or jd Evans.

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Speaker 11: I think it's on Zolensky. I don't know what the

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Speaker 11: people of Ukraine must be thinking, but it's probably like

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Speaker 11: his ambassador with her head in her hands. She shouldn't

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Speaker 11: have blinked when he did that. Unfortunately she did what

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Speaker 11: we were all feeling, My gosh, we had a deal.

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Speaker 11: We were going to do this collaboration with Ukraine. The

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Speaker 11: Ukrainian people and the American people were both going to benefit.

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Speaker 11: It was really tying us up economically in good ways,

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Speaker 11: and good things could have come from it, really good things.

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Speaker 10: But instead he killed the deal. He sat there and

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Speaker 10: killed the deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And one of the extraordinary things is by opening up

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Speaker 1: this mineral deal, it would have put US companies in

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Speaker 1: US personnel and Americans on the ground working in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: to exploit this, which means America would have a greater

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Speaker 1: security and interest in Ukraine than it did if we

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Speaker 1: had no Americans there. How does Lenski miss that nuance?

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Speaker 1: It actually this incentivized the United States to even protect

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Speaker 1: Ukraine more than it has.

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Speaker 11: Of course, it would have the I think that really

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Speaker 11: the American people. Maybe the politicians aren't there, but the

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Speaker 11: American people are. They're largely done funding this war. I

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Speaker 11: think that the Europe is going to need to fund it.

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Speaker 11: But as a matter of fact, couldn't we just get

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Speaker 11: to a ceasefire and stop funding war and end it.

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Speaker 11: That's really what President Trump wants is he wants the

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Speaker 11: war to end. If he could end it today, if

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Speaker 11: Zelenski would work with him, and Putin would work with him,

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Speaker 11: he would end it today. He's going to, I think,

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Speaker 11: get to a good deal. But the fact is Europe

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Speaker 11: has not stepped up. They've expected the US to be

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Speaker 11: their defense, to pay for their defense. We see now

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Speaker 11: they're beginning to change. They changed a little bit and

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Speaker 11: did a little better when Putin invaded Ukraine. But once

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Speaker 11: they saw President Trump get elected, you can see they're

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Speaker 11: stepping up and saying we're going to go to three

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Speaker 11: and a half percent, We're going to do more.

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Speaker 10: Even Denmark saying we're going to.

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Speaker 11: Put more money in the Arctic, which they the ambassador,

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Speaker 11: the former ambassador yelled in my face that they would

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Speaker 11: never give more to their defense. So there was a

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Speaker 11: lot of resistance in Europe to actually pay for their defense.

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Speaker 11: They'd rather put the money to free college and free

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Speaker 11: health care and pay for social welfare benefits for their

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Speaker 11: citizens and let the American people that don't have those

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Speaker 11: same benefits pay for their defense.

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Speaker 4: Well, and it was a smart deal from the beginning

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Speaker 4: for Ukraine because Olensky should have recognized that the critical

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Speaker 4: minerals deal was the security guarantee that was our vested

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Speaker 4: interest in that region. I want to ask you though

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Speaker 4: about allies for Ukraine because at this point I don't

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Speaker 4: know who's in their corner when it comes to making

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Speaker 4: this piece deal.

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Speaker 3: Who do they have backing them still.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think they have the globalists backing them. People

882
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Speaker 11: like Donald Tusk came out and said, you know, congratulatory

883
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Speaker 11: things to Zelensky. Today there's been a lot of globalists

884
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Speaker 11: fawning over this man, who, let's not forget, was installed

885
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Speaker 11: by the US after you know, we did a regime

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Speaker 11: change there.

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Speaker 10: And I'm so thrilled to see.

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Speaker 11: Doge with the support of President Trump, defunding USAID and

889
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Speaker 11: saying President Trump saying officially we are not going for

890
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Speaker 11: regime change. That should never have happened. And so now

891
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Speaker 11: a former comedian. You know, leading this country in this

892
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Speaker 11: war is getting very, very rich, and a lot of

893
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Speaker 11: it's a very corrupt country. His people that work with

894
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Speaker 11: him have been you know, I think they're taking suitcases

895
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Speaker 11: of money and stashing it here and there around the world,

896
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Speaker 11: and it's not okay. The American people, I think they're done.

897
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Speaker 11: They really would like to see that kind of money

898
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Speaker 11: go into American infrastructure, and We're ready to renew and

899
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Speaker 11: rejuvenate our country and stop really sending money around the

900
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Speaker 11: world that doesn't get anywhere. Ukraine was never going to

901
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Speaker 11: win this war. They don't have enough manpower. They're simply

902
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Speaker 11: outgunned by Russia. Russia's a bigger country, it's more capable,

903
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Speaker 11: and Russia is bringing in soldiers from other countries as well,

904
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Speaker 11: like North Korea to help them just you know, churn

905
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Speaker 11: away in this meat grinder, which is a terrible thing.

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Speaker 11: I support President Trump bringing an end to this war,

907
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Speaker 11: and I know that President Trump will come up with

908
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Speaker 11: a better plan going forward.

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Speaker 1: Real cookie, you made reference to the made On Revolution.

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Speaker 1: Any doubt in your mind that the Obama administration helped

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Speaker 1: instigate or carry out that overthrow of President Yanikovich?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that happened.

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Speaker 11: I wish, I wish I had doubt, but I actually

914
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Speaker 11: saw actual footage from our former Obama administration officials getting

915
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Speaker 11: that done. And so unfortunately, and I you know, I

916
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Speaker 11: think there may have been support on.

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Speaker 10: Both sides of the Aisle on this deal.

918
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Speaker 11: It's not acceptable and I'm again, I'm just thrilled that

919
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Speaker 11: USAID is no longer going to be capable of funding

920
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Speaker 11: these regime changes, which brings so much bloodshed and just

921
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Speaker 11: so much it's just terrible. We want to we want

922
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Speaker 11: to have peace. We don't want to do this, and

923
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Speaker 11: you can see the bad outcome, especially in the Middle East.

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Speaker 4: Well, and then there was that infamous phone call with

925
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Speaker 4: Victoria Newlan where she was talking about getting Barber guy

926
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Speaker 4: in there with Jeffrey Pye. Am Carla Sand's former ambassador

927
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Speaker 4: to Denmark. Love getting your perspective and your work as

928
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Speaker 4: vice chair for Energy and Environment at the America First

929
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Speaker 4: Policy Institute.

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Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to have you here. We'll see you.

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Speaker 10: Soon, great, honor, thanks very much, great to be with you.

932
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Speaker 4: Absolutely all right, everybody, one more block for real this.

933
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Speaker 3: Time it's one blackall see in a moment. Welcome back.

934
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Speaker 3: Final block. Of the show.

935
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Speaker 4: I can literally feel John ishing to give his thoughts

936
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Speaker 4: about what we just heard from.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I think Carlo sand said something. I have been hearing

939
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Speaker 1: this from Ukrainian if it not Russian officials, Ukrainian officials

940
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Speaker 1: that the US played a role in overthrowing Victor Yanikovich

941
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, which sets the two ten years of

942
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Speaker 1: strife in Europe. And she said she saw video footage

943
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Speaker 1: of our officials participating in that. That is a really

944
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Speaker 1: big moment. I'm going to keep digging in this. I

945
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Speaker 1: think it's time for President Trump to maybe release any

946
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Speaker 1: the classific any documents about our role in stabilizing Ukraine

947
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Speaker 1: on this path by getting rid of its elected president

948
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. The made revolution. It's been made to look

949
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Speaker 1: like it was organic. I'm not sure it is. I'll

950
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Speaker 1: tell you something that wasn't organic. Pleasident Zelenski's an interview

951
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Speaker 1: on Fox News.

952
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Speaker 3: And we got a clip of it. Check it out.

953
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Speaker 5: So I'm not hearing from you, mister President. Thought that

954
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Speaker 5: you owe the president and apology.

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Speaker 12: Now, I respect President, and I respect to American people,

956
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Speaker 12: and if I don't know, if I think that we

957
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Speaker 12: have to be very open and very honest, and I'm

958
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Speaker 12: not sure that we did something bad. I think maybe

959
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Speaker 12: sometimes some things we have to discuss out of media,

960
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Speaker 12: with all respect to democracy and to a free media,

961
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Speaker 12: but as things that we have to understand the position

962
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Speaker 12: of Ukraine and Ukrainians, and I think that is the

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Speaker 12: most important thing. Yes, we have partners, you know, we're

964
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Speaker 12: very close partners.

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Speaker 13: We have to be fair, we have to be we

966
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Speaker 13: have to be very free. It's more like we're funders

967
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Speaker 13: and he's losing a war. But you know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 13: He wants to pretend like we're equal partners. But Ukraine

969
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Speaker 13: doesn't do anything without us. And maybe maybe Carl the

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Speaker 13: Sands and others are right, maybe he's not the right

971
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Speaker 13: partner to bring peace. I still think that they're going

972
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Speaker 13: to make up. I think the Europeans will talk to

973
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Speaker 13: Zelenski bout it seems like that didn't work, dude, anddn't

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Speaker 13: get back into shape.

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Speaker 1: You know, but you used to look at that defiance

976
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Speaker 1: and you wonder, I don't feel much thanks for what

977
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Speaker 1: we just invested in your country.

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Speaker 2: Didn't feel very sincere to me. I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, no.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think it endured sympathy or empathy from

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Speaker 4: the American people, or generosity the globals.

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Speaker 2: The leaders will think good.

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Speaker 4: Quickly before we go. President Trump signing an executive order too.

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Speaker 4: After two and dre fift years of our country projectally yep,

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Speaker 4: English the official language. Now there are three other countries

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Speaker 4: in the world, Philippines, Pakistan, and India whose language official

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Speaker 4: language is English, not ours.

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Speaker 1: But now, not until now, another promise delivered, something he

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Speaker 1: talked about during the campaign. And he's just checking off

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Speaker 1: the list. And I don't think anyone's going to be

990
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Speaker 1: upset about. Most people think it's a good idea. It's

991
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Speaker 1: just one more thing on the checklist. It's remarkable how

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Speaker 1: much has been done in this first one hundred days

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Speaker 1: of presence.

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Speaker 2: It's really remarkable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and look, you can still service your customers by

996
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Speaker 4: pressing too to hear Spanish and speak Spanish. That's totally fine.

997
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Speaker 4: But for people to come here, I think that it

998
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Speaker 4: is very important for them to know that that is

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Speaker 4: our official language. It helps along with the assimilation process.

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Speaker 4: All Right, everybody that's going to do it for us

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Speaker 4: on this fine Friday, thanks so much for being here.

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Speaker 4: We are going to be covering breaking news on justthnews

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Speaker 4: dot com all through the weekend, but then we will

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Speaker 4: be back here at six pm Eastern on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend