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Speaker 2: The Warrens are afraid that Pulliofido could burst back into

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Speaker 8: There, Matt Hamilton, something that was known to only a

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Speaker 3: This is nothing short of remarkable.

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Speaker 2: And devon khn. It's been a very long road. It's

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Speaker 13: Board was really in the president's pocket. That's the classic

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Speaker 2: As for that ten million dollar lawsuit, the Garrigos firm

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Speaker 9: things for me. And I'm like, Dora, are you sleeping

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Speaker 9: with him? She's like, ew, no, I would.

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Speaker 5: Not do that.

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Speaker 2: Puliafido was also supplying drugs to both Dora and her

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Speaker 2: boyfriend Ariel, but at this point it was clear Dora

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Speaker 2: had a serious problem.

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Speaker 9: The first time I discovered that she really had an

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Speaker 9: actual drug abuse problem was it had been a while

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Speaker 9: since I spoke to her. I went to her house

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Speaker 9: and her house was absolutely disgusting. Food on the stove,

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Speaker 9: overgrown with mold, piles of trash outside. My sister started

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Speaker 9: flaking a lot on me. When we had set up

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Speaker 9: a lunch date. I was really hard to reach her

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Speaker 9: on my phone, and I would show up at her

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Speaker 9: house and knock on the door, and I could tell

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Speaker 9: she was home, but she wouldn't answer. And at one

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Speaker 9: point she finally let me in to see her, and

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Speaker 9: she was acting strange, and that's when I noticed there

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Speaker 9: were needles drug needles on the floor in her house.

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Speaker 9: And it's then that I started to realize that she

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Speaker 9: wasn't just recreationally using drugs. She had a real drug

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Speaker 9: abuse problem.

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Speaker 2: Miriam called their parents, with the help of Dora's ex

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Speaker 2: boyfriend Todd, they checked her into rehab, but after three

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Speaker 2: weeks in treatment, Dora left rehab and went back to Missouri.

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Speaker 3: It didn't last long.

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Speaker 9: It was not long before she was a mess again,

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Speaker 9: and she decided to leave my mom's house, come back

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Speaker 9: out here and resume her life. And at that time

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Speaker 9: I did not know she was still talking to Puliaffido.

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Speaker 9: I still didn't know at that time, none of us did,

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Speaker 9: that he was providing her with these drugs. I realized

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Speaker 9: she was still on drugs and reached out to my

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Speaker 9: parents again.

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Speaker 2: Dora's parents brought her back to Missouri, but Miriam discovered

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Speaker 2: that Dora didn't come by herself. Puliafido had gotten on

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Speaker 2: the flight with her.

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Speaker 9: Somehow, Dora ended up back at their house again, only

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Speaker 9: this time my parents told me that Pulliaffido was at

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Speaker 9: their house and I asked my mom. I was like, Mom,

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Speaker 9: why are you letting this man stay in your house

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Speaker 9: with Dora. I was like, he's giving her endless, limitless money.

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Speaker 9: She's never gonna get off drugs if she has access

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Speaker 9: to that much money. My mom was like, Oh, he's nice,

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Speaker 9: he's nice.

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Speaker 12: I talked to him.

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Speaker 9: He's fine, He's not. And this is my mom being

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Speaker 9: so gullible. I'm like, Mom, he's seventy years old. Dora

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Speaker 9: is like twenty five. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: I was living.

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Speaker 9: It occurred to me that there's more going on than

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Speaker 9: just an exchange of money, because he has a thing

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Speaker 9: for her that clearly he's having a sexual relationship with

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Speaker 9: her and providing her with money. I still didn't know

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Speaker 9: he was giving her drugs, and I still didn't really

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Speaker 9: know who he was. When I met Ril, I was

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Speaker 9: confused because I was like, wait, Dora is having some

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Speaker 9: sexual thing with Carmen. And then and I think I

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Speaker 9: confronted her at one point and she's like, it's not

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Speaker 9: like that with Carmen. Aril's my boyfriend, and Carmen just

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Speaker 9: gives us money. It just started to become so strange,

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Speaker 9: and I was like, is he giving you more than money?

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Speaker 9: Where are you guys getting drugs from? Because Aril was

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Speaker 9: clearly on drugs, And I just remember Dora getting really upset.

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Speaker 9: We got in a big fight and I threw up

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Speaker 9: my hands at that point and I just stopped talking

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Speaker 9: to Dora.

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Speaker 2: Dora and Polio Fido went back to LA and finally

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Speaker 2: Miriam figures out who this man is and the reason

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Speaker 2: for his hold on her sister.

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Speaker 9: I found out shortly thereafter. I found out he's the

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Speaker 9: Dean of USC Medical. I also found out that he

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Speaker 9: was prescribing drugs to my sister while he was at

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Speaker 9: my parents' house. And I think that's when I finally

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Speaker 9: broke through to my parents.

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Speaker 2: Miriam's parents were horrified by this discovery. Pull your feet

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Speaker 2: on a no longer seemed like an old guy who's

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Speaker 2: otherwise harmless. They come out to LA to help Miriam

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Speaker 2: confront Dora about her involvement with the dean and his

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Speaker 2: connection to her drug use.

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Speaker 9: We tried again to do an intervention with her. We

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Speaker 9: tried again to get her off of drugs. We show

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Speaker 9: up at our house and her house is just like

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Speaker 9: a fort. At this point, Puliafido is paying.

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Speaker 11: For her house.

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Speaker 9: The outside of her door has a biometric lock on it.

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Speaker 9: She's got cameras pointed from multiple directions to whoever shows

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Speaker 9: up at the porch. But my mom lured her to

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Speaker 9: lunch while they were out here, and she told my

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Speaker 9: mom that Puliafido tracks her, records her phone conversations, tracks

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Speaker 9: who she's calling, tracks her vehicle, and knows everything she does.

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Speaker 9: And so my parents started contact the police about what

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Speaker 9: was going on. My father ended up calling the Altadena

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Speaker 9: Police Department. He made several attempts, but he called them

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Speaker 9: to report the drug use, and specifically the carmen has

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Speaker 9: cameras on our house, that he can't get a hold

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Speaker 9: of his daughter, that he wants them to go do

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Speaker 9: a check on her. I think he did that several times,

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Speaker 9: and the Altadena police responded, but they put as little

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Speaker 9: effort as possible into the whole situation. From day one,

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Speaker 9: it was very clear they could care less. And so

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Speaker 9: that again left my family wondering how we're going to

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Speaker 9: solve this problem.

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Speaker 2: Months go by and the older family is still left wondering.

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Speaker 2: Like the Warrens, they just can't get this man away

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Speaker 2: from their daughter and stop him from giving her drugs.

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Speaker 2: Dora seems unreachable. Then Miriam learns that her sister was

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Speaker 2: pregnant with Ariel's child and has already had the baby.

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Speaker 9: I found out Dora was pregnant about three weeks after

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Speaker 9: she had a baby.

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Speaker 2: And as far as she knows, Puliafido is still in

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Speaker 2: the picture. But now the stakes are much higher.

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Speaker 9: I was just horrified and also very lost. How do

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Speaker 9: you begin to fix a situation like this. It's hard

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Speaker 9: enough when a member of your family is a drug addict,

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Speaker 9: but add to that unlimited access to money. I mean,

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Speaker 9: how do you get them out of that situation? They

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Speaker 9: never hit rock bottom. They're under the control of the

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Speaker 9: person giving them the drugs and giving them the money.

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Speaker 5: They're an adult.

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Speaker 9: How do you get them out of this situation?

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Speaker 2: For Miriam and her parents, it seems like the situation

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Speaker 2: could not be worse. But on the morning of October fifth, tragedy.

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Speaker 13: Strikes Department of Hello, Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: Baby not breathing yet, Baby not breathing?

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Speaker 4: Are you there?

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Speaker 13: At the location right now. My girlfriend there telling us

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Speaker 13: a child three weeks three weeks old boy, but he

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Speaker 13: was just found like this place.

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Speaker 3: Karen, I don't know you called me crying.

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Speaker 2: Davon Maharaj, Mark Duvison, and Matt Doyg deny that they

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Speaker 2: did anything wrong in their handling of the USC investigation,

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Speaker 2: and they maintained that any negative betrayal of their actions

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Speaker 2: is false. Next time on Fallen Angels, Matt and Harriet

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Speaker 2: launched an investigation into the death of Doriota's baby.

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Speaker 8: It's it's not someone who's rattled, but there was something

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Speaker 8: about the call that rattled her.

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Speaker 9: I mean, a baby doesn't just have mes in its system.

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Speaker 2: And we get a new tip about another bad doctor

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Speaker 2: at USC.

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Speaker 4: There's like a long pause and then the person just

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Speaker 4: opened the door and we sat down at the kitchen

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Speaker 4: table and they just laid it out.

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Speaker 9: There were actually several all instances looking back because I realized, oh.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, n that's next time on Fallen Angels. Fallen Angels,

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Speaker 2: The Story of California Corruption is a production of iHeart

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Speaker 2: Podcasts in partnership with Best Case Studios.

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Speaker 3: I'm Paul Pringle.

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Speaker 2: This show is based on my book Bad City Peril

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Speaker 2: and Power in the City of Angels. Fallen Angels was

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Speaker 2: written by Isabel Evans, Adam Pinks, and Brent Katz. Isabel

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Speaker 2: Evans is our producer, Brent Katz.

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Speaker 3: Is co producer.

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Speaker 2: Associate producers are Hanna Leebowitz Lockhart and On Paho Locke.

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Speaker 2: Executive producers are Me Paul Pringle, Joe Picarello, and Adam

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Speaker 2: Pinkas for Best Case Studios. Original music is by James Newberry.

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