1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: All right, airplane manufacturer is really trying to strike that 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: balance right now between satisfying customer demand and dealing with 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: some of the issues with their suppliers. Airbus just out 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: with their third quarter results, and investors seem to like 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: what they've heard. They also seem to like the fact 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: that the company is standing by those longer term forecasts. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: The company also ramping up production of its wide our 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: body jet scene that it expects a robust recovery in 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: long distance travel. Please to say right now that the 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: CEO of Airbus is joining us right now along with 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: our very young guy Johnson. Guy take it away. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Remain, thank you very much. Indeed, Guillem, good evening, Thank 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: you for your time. Remain just laid it out perfectly. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: Q three pretty solid, maybe a little light on the 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: ebit line, but nevertheless, the market seems to like what 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: it hears. What you are also saying today is that 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: you are sticking to your full year guidance. Gillem, Just 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: how big a Q four are you anticipating. It looks 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: like you're setting us up for a massive number. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Actually, we are already beginning of November, so we have 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 3: part of the fourth quarter behind us. With the month 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: of October, and we've delivered seventy one commercialier plane in 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: the month of October, So what we have to deliver 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: for November and December this year is similar to what 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: we did a year ago in November and December. So 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: it's indeed a big quarter, but we see that we 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: have part of that quarter behind us. We performance in October, 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: we think we are well placed for November and we start. 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 4: To have some visibility for December. 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: That's why we felt like we're in a good place 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: to confirm the guidance of around seven hundred. 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: And twenty planes in twenty twenty three. 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Around seven hundred and twenty plans gill On. Everybody is 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: now turning their attention to next year. They're trying to 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: figure out what kind of a delivery schedule we could 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: be looking at. You are ramping up a number of 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: the day lines you have. Clearly the three twenty line 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: is going to take a big push next year. However, 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: as Romaine just mentioned, you are still facing supply chain issues. 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: How much bigger can next year's number really be given 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: the constraints that you currently face. 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: I will not be specific on that question, as we 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 3: don't give a guidance for the year twenty twenty four 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: if we give a guidance before our full year result 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: meaning feb next year. But obviously, as we are in 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: a ramp up on the two twenty, on the three 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: twenty big time, but also now on the three thirty 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: and on the three fifty, you might have seen that 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: we have indicated we will be ramping up up to 50 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: eight ten on the eight three fifty by twenty twenty six. 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: So we ramp up on all programs and therefore there 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: will be a significant uplift of the production in twenty 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: twenty four compared to twenty twenty three. 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: And we are not yet at the point to be specific. 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: We are preparing those programs, the twenty twenty four programs 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: production programs with our suppliers. 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: It is paced by the supply chain, and. 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: We will have a better visibility by the turn of 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: the year beginning of next yure at the point where 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: we provide a guidance. 61 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: But there will be a steady growth on all programs. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: But have you gotten any pushback from customers, Gillon, who 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: are maybe looking at some of the potential delays with 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: regards to the supply chain issues. Have they asked for 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: anything in return. If those delays do actually materialize. 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: Our customers expect the planes. 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: There is a very strong demands and that's an incredible 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: situation to being By the way, the gap between demand 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: and supply is large. 70 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: Airlines are a. 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: Strong appetite for the OEMs and in particular Airbus to 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: supply products, and what matters for them is ready to 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: get the planes and be able to enter them into service, 74 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: to have visibility. We know that when they received an aircraft, 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: they want to put it in service as fast as possible, 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: so they need to have the pilots trained, they need 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: to have all the infrastructure ready, and also at a 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: point in time they start to. 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Sell the tickets. 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: So what they are really expecting in the difficult supply 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: environment we're in, and they know that it's a very 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: challenging environment, is first and foremost visibility and reliability. 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 4: In what we tell them about the end h into 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: service of the plane. 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: When you look at travel trends longer term, and there's 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion about the wide body rollout 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: and some of the demands the orders that we're getting 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: afford those both for air Bus as well as from 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: your competitor bowing here is this a bed that long 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: haul travel route will dominate much more than some of 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: those closer end destinations. 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: I think the. 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Single aisle business, so the short and mid range activity 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: will continue to dominate the number of planes. 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: We've seen the activity on. 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: The single isle recovering much faster after COVID than it 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: was for white bodies for a long range, but we 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: think long range will follow up, will also recover first 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: and probably even stronger moving forward. And when we look 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: at the long term perspectives for the market, we expect 101 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: both single lile and white bodies to significantly grow, to 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 3: the extent that we believe there will be around forty 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: thousand planes to be delivered in the next twenty years. 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: You're ramping up, as you just confirmed to me the 105 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,559 Speaker 2: three fifty, you're going to go to ten a month 106 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That's not a big push higher. You're 107 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: basically going from eight to nine to ten by twenty 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: twenty six. Picking up on Romain's point is that you 109 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: talk you signaling caution that you actually think the big 110 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: push we're saying for long hauld demand at the moment 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: is not sustainable. Could you take that program higher by 112 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: that point if demand remains as robust as it is now. 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Well, actually, we see the demand growing, We see a 114 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: recovery in the demand. And we were at a low 115 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: point of rate four on the fifty during COVID, So 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: we went from four and we keep growing and we 117 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: are now targeting ten. It's slightly or it's very comparable 118 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: to what we had RECOVID, and we had said that 119 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: the traffic itself would be recovering back to pre COVID 120 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: levels between twenty three to two twenty five, twenty twenty 121 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: three to twenty twenty five. So I think we are 122 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: consistent with the evaluation the assessment we made of the 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: recovery of the market going just out of COVID. 124 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: Do we have the potential for more? 125 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: Yes, the eight three fifty has the potential to go 126 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: up to rate thirteen based on the existing production system, 127 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: and we will continue to monitor the demand. The recovery 128 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: of the demand with a big replacement cycle for white 129 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: bodies that is just starting, and also some expectations for growth. 130 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: So the market has the potential to go higher, and 131 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: we have the potential to continue to serve that market. 132 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: By further rumping up but I'd like to just. 133 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: Confirm that rate ten on the three fifty is already 134 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: a very big number. 135 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Okay, fair point, defense spending is rising in Europe. How 136 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: long will it take? And in what scale should we 137 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: be thinking about the benefits occurring to us as a 138 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: result of this? When are you going to see the benefit? 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Are you going to see the benefits of that pickup 140 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: in defense spending? And how big an impact do you 141 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: think it's going to have on your bottom line? 142 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: So I think we start to see some effects of 143 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: the increased spending. 144 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: You have probably observed. 145 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: That the order intake for defense space is robust this 146 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: year is good in Q three is higher than last year, 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: and helicopters is doing well too on the orders for 148 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 3: military helicopters. 149 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: Now, how much. 150 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: Time is it going to take to fully see the 151 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: impact of the increased defense budgets of the europe and 152 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 3: countries into our order book and P and L. I 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: would love to be able to answer that question. Defense 154 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: programs always take time. We are at Albus on large programs, 155 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: generally speaking, relying on multinational or international cooperation between countries. 156 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: I think it will take time, but we will see. 157 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: We see the order intake growing. We think we're going 158 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: to end up twenty twenty three with a book to 159 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: build higher than one for defense and space, and very 160 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: significant as well in helicopters for the military share of 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: the business. So it's quite slow to try to fairly 162 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: answer your question, but I think it's robust. 163 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 4: And we will see it growing here after here. 164 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: All right, Gail, we're gonna have to leave it there. 165 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking time for us ask on ferry. 166 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: There is the CEO over at Airbus