Speaker 1: Leading Off starts right now on Fantasy Pros. Hello friends,
Speaker 1: It's Chris Welsh and Chris Clegg, the Chris and Chris
Speaker 1: Show on a Friday edition of Leading Off.
Speaker 2: As we are going to end out.
Speaker 1: The week coming off of an insane performance, We're going
Speaker 1: to break down home run calls, some prospect talking more.
Speaker 1: Mister Chris Clegg, what is up, my friend?
Speaker 3: It's going on, Welsh.
Speaker 4: It's good to be back Chris Show on Friday. It's
Speaker 4: always a good time. And man, a lot of good
Speaker 4: baseball yesterday. So excited to break all that down and
Speaker 4: look ahead to the weekend as well.
Speaker 1: Not quite Mike and Mike, but Christ and Chris will do,
Speaker 1: especially when we can talk prospects and we can talk
Speaker 1: Spencer Strider who went eight innings, struck out sixteen, gave
Speaker 1: up two hits, by the way, didn't walk about her,
Speaker 1: didn't walk about her sixteen strikeouts in this game, Clegg,
Speaker 1: Strider had twenty two swing and misses.
Speaker 2: He accounted for all five.
Speaker 1: If you go and look at Baseball Savant on the
Speaker 1: top pitch velocities, all five of the top velocities in
Speaker 1: this game, three of which technically on the radar probably
Speaker 1: all five would have registered over one hundred, because they
Speaker 1: usually don't, you know, give you the points.
Speaker 2: It'll just be one hundred. They'll round up.
Speaker 1: But he did have three that technically went over one hundred,
Speaker 1: and Spencer Strider's twenty two swing and Misses one of
Speaker 1: the best single season pitching performances.
Speaker 2: So far this year.
Speaker 1: Yet mister Chris Clegg Stryder's still just surrounded in all
Speaker 1: of the muck online. Even though he's incredible and does
Speaker 1: what he does, people online still found ways to kind
Speaker 1: of bring it down in that Spencer Strider isn't looking
Speaker 1: elite right now.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I just don't get it.
Speaker 4: I mean, how do you argue with what he's done
Speaker 4: all year and it's just in dominant performance and he's
Speaker 4: just gotten better each start, like that's the thing. And
Speaker 4: we can't discount it because it's just the Rockies. We
Speaker 4: can't discount because you go back and I mean, he
Speaker 4: had thirteen strikeouts in the start, twelve strikeouts in the start,
Speaker 4: eleven strikeouts eleven like across the board, like just Ben Stellar.
Speaker 4: I mean, sure he had his blow up against the
Speaker 4: Mets early in August, but other than that, man he's
Speaker 4: been really freaking good and I love what I've seen,
Speaker 4: like the progression. And you can argue a two pitch
Speaker 4: guy can't sustain, but I think he can. Like you, look,
Speaker 4: you've seen him using the slider more and more and
Speaker 4: love to see that. Last last night, I mean used
Speaker 4: it forty percent of the time, which was at least
Speaker 4: from a month to month standpoint, the most that he's
Speaker 4: used it, and I feel like he's looking at the chart,
Speaker 4: he's progressively used it more and more. The fastball, as
Speaker 4: you mentioned, is elite. I think it's one of the
Speaker 4: best pitches in baseball. Throws the change up to lefties well,
Speaker 4: like he can be a two pitch guy. He uses
Speaker 4: the change up against left handed hitters and and makes
Speaker 4: it work.
Speaker 3: I just I don't know. I think Strider's a buddy Nace.
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest things, like you alluded to,
Speaker 1: that people keep going back to because I have a
Speaker 1: thing all season long and I've poked at it whenever
Speaker 1: I've got a chance. About the Spencer Strider stuff, where
Speaker 1: I was on sprit as Strida very early and we
Speaker 1: had people online that just weren't having it, and I mean,
Speaker 1: we're talking three four months ago, I brought up Strider
Speaker 1: Ashby and super obnoxious people were like.
Speaker 2: Oh, even know's his question.
Speaker 1: This is even a fantasy question, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: they look stupid now because Spencer Strider looks incredible, but
Speaker 1: it keeps coming up. So I poked at it last
Speaker 1: night where I was like, hey, Strider Ashby, and you
Speaker 1: still had people you saw we were talking about it before,
Speaker 1: and the comments are like, well, this is take Ashby
Speaker 1: long term, but Streider looks pretty good right now. And
Speaker 1: it's like, just like Wonkey said, you got to define
Speaker 1: what elite is looking like right now. Is there a
Speaker 1: worry that this is a two pitch pitcher. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want my pitchers to have a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an arsenal. That is something that smelled reliefy before high strikeouts,
Speaker 1: two big pitches. But you said it's one of the
Speaker 1: best fastballs in baseball. The slider looks domina He got
Speaker 1: fifteen whiffs on the slider, fifteen of twenty four swing
Speaker 1: throughs and a forty percent rate of throwing the slider.
Speaker 1: He had a sixty three percent whiff rate on the slider,
Speaker 1: which was dominant, and a twenty one percent with rate
Speaker 1: on the fastball, which he was hitting one hundred and
Speaker 1: defining what that truly is at this point is going
Speaker 1: to be the big thing of how we move forward.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not giving any any restrictions on him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna blow up a little bit. I'd liken him
Speaker 1: a lot to Dylan Ceese, like I said, offline, where
Speaker 1: it can be big strikeouts, games can get away, but
Speaker 1: a lot of pitchers games can get away. And if
Speaker 1: you can build in any progression into the off season,
Speaker 1: maybe he develops some higher plus third pitch something that
Speaker 1: can be used in there.
Speaker 2: Great if not.
Speaker 1: Two pitch pitchers, they don't always work. Sometimes they go
Speaker 1: the way of Patrick Corbyn. But it's hard to place
Speaker 1: anything against Spencer Schrider right now.
Speaker 2: And it's not so much.
Speaker 1: That he looks really good and pretty good and thumbs
Speaker 1: up right now. It's like, no, he looks elite right now,
Speaker 1: and I'll take his stuff. I think Gokard just said it.
Speaker 1: I think is stuff every single day. I'm big time
Speaker 1: team Spencer Strider. When there's still just being dumb questions
Speaker 1: put around him, Clegg.
Speaker 4: It's nuts, and you mentioned the command, but like he's
Speaker 4: lowered the walk crate to five point one percent in
Speaker 4: the second half. Like, that's pretty elite here.
Speaker 1: Literally, the things you're looking for from pictures to progress,
Speaker 1: yet people are still not accepting them. You're looking for
Speaker 1: walk rates to drop, You're looking for elite performances. You're
Speaker 1: looking for them to go deep into games. You're looking
Speaker 1: for them to be able to continue to get out
Speaker 1: second and.
Speaker 2: Third time through the order. He's doing all of those things.
Speaker 1: He's built for this, literally built for this, you know, huge,
Speaker 1: stocky lower half, he is built for this. And if
Speaker 1: we can just dream on any type of progression, you know, God,
Speaker 1: go work with Go work with the Jacob de Gram
Speaker 1: in the offseason. If you can pick up a pitch
Speaker 1: from somebody, talk to Max Freed, get a third pitch
Speaker 1: that you can occasionally mix in there just to keep
Speaker 1: batters off, it's gonna be great. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, that forty percent rate on the slider. I'll
Speaker 1: take that every single day because no one can catch
Speaker 1: up to that fastball right now.
Speaker 4: And when the velo's there and you've noticed I think
Speaker 4: the starts that he's not performed well, the fastball set
Speaker 4: closer to ninety six than to you know, ninety eight
Speaker 4: and above. So you know, most starts, obviously the Villo's
Speaker 4: been there, but I've noticed those starts where he's not
Speaker 4: fully had it. The fastball below is down a bit.
Speaker 4: So the good news is that's been there. I mean
Speaker 4: last night, ninety eight and a half on the fastball, Like,
Speaker 4: we can live with that all day long, blowing it by.
Speaker 1: If I was are reported, they'd be one of the
Speaker 1: first things I'd be asking him to be like in
Speaker 1: the offseason, be like, is there any consideration for like,
Speaker 1: you know, picking up another pitch or working with anybody
Speaker 1: and see what he has to say, because someone in
Speaker 1: the chat was like, imagine if he had a knuckle
Speaker 1: curve and just imagine all of this stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: imagine all of the fun things that could go on.
Speaker 1: But you know, we do, we do have to all
Speaker 1: we have to be prepared to, like, you know, see
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bump in the future as
Speaker 1: far as Dynasty goes, because it just I got you know,
Speaker 1: a shock of oh yeah, where Brian said, you know,
Speaker 1: there's like a Freddy Peralta before the league adjusted, and
Speaker 1: you gotta worry, does you know, you don't want the
Speaker 1: league to ad just like they are on Freddy PEARLTA.
Speaker 1: But Freddy PEERLTO has also been harpened by pretty inconsistencies
Speaker 1: in the second time through the lineup I've noticed anytime
Speaker 1: I've watched them, sometimes in the.
Speaker 2: Beginning of the lineup.
Speaker 1: But either way, Strider with one of the bigger performances
Speaker 1: of the season, sixteen k's. You want to know something
Speaker 1: hilarious the emailb trivia question that popped up today. I'm
Speaker 1: not even doing it because I'll just say it right now.
Speaker 1: It was like, what player had the most strikeouts in
Speaker 1: a single game?
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, you know this right clag in
Speaker 2: this season?
Speaker 4: No in baseball history top of my head, probably not.
Speaker 4: Oh no, oh, this is what.
Speaker 2: This is one of those where I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 2: instantly know.
Speaker 3: That Carrie would carry yeah my brain.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even yeah, there goes Wonky has carry one.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even put it out there because whenever you
Speaker 1: talk about whenever when somebody gets like above fifteen strikeouts,
Speaker 1: everyone starts, you know, carry wood carry wood, starts going
Speaker 1: on about that. But I think I'm also a little
Speaker 1: bit older than you Kleig, so that might remember carry Wood.
Speaker 2: I remember watching that game. Do you remember watching that game?
Speaker 3: Was that what like three ish?
Speaker 2: I think it was a ninety eight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so no, I probably didn't.
Speaker 2: Man, Please don't tell me you were like seven.
Speaker 3: I was four.
Speaker 2: It's even more even Wars. Oh my god, that's so
Speaker 2: much worse than I shouldn't have asked you.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have gone to it.
Speaker 2: Let's go through a few others.
Speaker 1: Raphael Devers leads Red Sox come back win over the
Speaker 1: Rangers after being down by five runs in the eighth inning.
Speaker 2: If only I.
Speaker 1: Know Mike Mayer's asking, if only they could have been
Speaker 1: doing this, you know, like all the games, not just
Speaker 1: this one game with Raphael Devers, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: the Red Sox looking like a mighty nice stack tonight
Speaker 1: against Dallas Kichel with the Rangers. Just throwing that out
Speaker 1: for everybody, for really anything that you want to play
Speaker 1: at all, it's looking like take a Red.
Speaker 4: Sock, yeah, for sure, and good for Devors. He's been
Speaker 4: pretty atrocious in the second half. I know injuries have
Speaker 4: obviously played a factor, but just a one seventy nine
Speaker 4: average in the second half. With three home runs, so
Speaker 4: hopefully he's getting back on track. So good for Devors
Speaker 4: in big game yesterday with those three RBI two doubles, like,
Speaker 4: definitely what you want to see.
Speaker 2: We got it.
Speaker 1: We got the age jumping out of the chat right
Speaker 1: now where everyone's like, oh my god, what Kerrie Wood
Speaker 1: did that? You know I was graduating college, Wonkey said,
Speaker 1: I graduated high school. I can say a little bit younger.
Speaker 1: I went into high school. That was my going into
Speaker 1: high school. Year was nineteen ninety eight, so it was
Speaker 1: a prime time and little little baby Clegg was sitting
Speaker 1: out there just rocking, just waiting, waiting for fastballs and sliders.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: On the prospect front, Gunner Henderson obviously had the big
Speaker 1: homer game and then stole a base, so he's doing
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Initial thoughts on Gunner Henderson
Speaker 1: and also a little compared Chris Claig is a great
Speaker 1: prospect mind. Good for us to be able to talk
Speaker 1: about that little prospect. Friday here and Clike was starting
Speaker 1: preschool walk he.
Speaker 2: Said that maybe.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about Gunner Henderson in the early impression.
Speaker 1: But also comparative to Corbyn Carroll in his start since
Speaker 1: those guys are kind of like intertwined as being one,
Speaker 1: one A and one B in the.
Speaker 2: Top prospect lists.
Speaker 4: Well, there's always uncertainty when a prospect comes up how
Speaker 4: they're going to perform just right off the bat, because
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pressures. But Gunnard just looks so
Speaker 4: confident and Carol too, They both have come up and
Speaker 4: look incredibly confident at the plate. And Gunner's looked really
Speaker 4: good in the field too, which has been excellent to see.
Speaker 4: So pretty much all around what you've been seeing all year,
Speaker 4: and he doesn't like he's going to miss a beat
Speaker 4: moving up to the major leagues, which is a major
Speaker 4: encouragement seeing him already still a base I mean, he's
Speaker 4: still twenty two in the minors between double and triple
Speaker 4: A so far, but you always wonder how that translates
Speaker 4: as well. So he's effective on the base past two,
Speaker 4: I mean only three caught stealings this year, so you
Speaker 4: hope that that can stick. You know, Gunner's not going
Speaker 4: to be the fastest runner, but I think the stolen
Speaker 4: base efficiency is going to be really good there, and
Speaker 4: the power obviously a big breakout this year.
Speaker 3: All the eggs of velocities really back that up.
Speaker 4: And you saw that moonshot that he hit for his
Speaker 4: first career home run.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm just impressed.
Speaker 4: His demeanor looks really good and he just looks like
Speaker 4: he's somebody that's ready to hit the ground running.
Speaker 3: And same with Carol.
Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't really ask for a much better
Speaker 4: start to either of these guys career with how they've played.
Speaker 4: I mean they've come out the gate firing. I mean
Speaker 4: Carrol's already driven in five runs, scored four times. Like,
Speaker 4: those are things you want to see a lot of
Speaker 4: confidence making, good contact and consistent contact. Is that so
Speaker 4: I'm really encouraged by both Carol and Gunner and this
Speaker 4: is what we've seen all along. But you, like I said,
Speaker 4: you have to question sometimes, like how does the jump
Speaker 4: to the major leagues and major league pitching affect them
Speaker 4: off the bat. I'm not seeing a huge vestment period
Speaker 4: for either of these guys.
Speaker 1: See that's a really key point at the back there
Speaker 1: is like neither one of these guys look overwhelmed. The
Speaker 1: nerves are gone. They found success early on, especially Corbyn Carroll.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to take away from Gunner.
Speaker 1: It's only been a couple of games and he's done it.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Corban, they both in different ways. But
Speaker 1: if you look into dynasty for next year or no,
Speaker 1: let's go to redraft, Actually for redraft next year, which
Speaker 1: one are you more likely to invest in?
Speaker 2: If you're gonna invest in one?
Speaker 1: Obviously Gunner has got a little bit more of the
Speaker 1: better position side, but Corbyn Carroll probably going to have
Speaker 1: a little bit more speed on his side, and I
Speaker 1: think has a higher probability to hit.
Speaker 2: I think if in a.
Speaker 1: Perfect world, I think Corbyn is a guy that could
Speaker 1: hit high in the lineup, and I think Gunner is
Speaker 1: a guy that hits around five in that lineup. So
Speaker 1: what would you take redraft next year? Which one would
Speaker 1: you bank on?
Speaker 4: Probably leaning Carroll, I feel there's a little more safety there.
Speaker 4: But you mentioned the position notligibility is going to be interesting.
Speaker 4: You know what kind of eligibility does Gunner end up with?
Speaker 4: Like we've seen him in the minors this year play
Speaker 4: every infield position. He's already played third and short. Does
Speaker 4: he even sneak over and get some maybe some first
Speaker 4: and second? I don't know if he plays enough. I'm
Speaker 4: in obviously, like n FBC formats. He's not gonna get
Speaker 4: enough for that. But Yahoo, you can get position eligibility
Speaker 4: for almost anything, so that'll be interesting to see. So
Speaker 4: the position eligibility could be fun to see for Gunner,
Speaker 4: but for the safety of the bat, a'll Laine Carroll
Speaker 4: for next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, another interesting aspect. I almost wanted to
Speaker 1: ask again, this is kind of like a bigger dynasty thing.
Speaker 2: But if we had a dynasty show, here is.
Speaker 1: Usually I move away from young guys. I use a
Speaker 1: way I move away from prospects. It more has to
Speaker 1: do with prospects and trying to project when they're gonna
Speaker 1: come up and when we're gonna actually have them and
Speaker 1: paying the high cost. And you know, there was plenty
Speaker 1: of people that were worried about like Bobby Witt, like
Speaker 1: is he really gonna start and they're drafting around the eighties,
Speaker 1: and then when there was more confirmation he moved up
Speaker 1: into like the top fifty. Next year is gonna be different,
Speaker 1: I think more than ever because we now have a
Speaker 1: full scope of how the new manipulation and advantages of players.
Speaker 1: I think teams have a better idea now and you're
Speaker 1: getting so much more of a run.
Speaker 2: Of like we're seeing the Carrols. Grissom is another one.
Speaker 1: An interesting thing actually, I just was watching some video
Speaker 1: on this before I see Wax and the chat bringing
Speaker 1: this up. Grissom not only you know, being successful early
Speaker 1: on and playing in the middle infield, but now is
Speaker 1: working out in the outfield and it's getting some outfield reps,
Speaker 1: which I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Makes the most sense in the world.
Speaker 1: So my point is is you got Grissom and Carol,
Speaker 1: and you got all these guys that are getting some
Speaker 1: run now in lieu of them starting with their team.
Speaker 1: It's an advantage for all these teams that have them up.
Speaker 1: Do you see yourself investing in more of these young
Speaker 1: guys early on next year because the problem, I think
Speaker 1: is going to be how much are they going to
Speaker 1: struggle versus the cost It's gonna come up because we
Speaker 1: have more certainty that they're going to break camp and
Speaker 1: the only answers we are going to have are the
Speaker 1: small little hints are going to be these like one
Speaker 1: hundred of bats that they're going to get or so
Speaker 1: when the season ends to kind of like make us feel.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I think seeing prospects at least get their
Speaker 4: feet wet in the majors in the prior season. Helps
Speaker 4: me don't want to invest more, but like I don't
Speaker 4: heavily invest in prospects that haven't debuty yet in a
Speaker 4: redraft league. Obviously, like a j Rod this year, before
Speaker 4: he was confirmed as being like making the open day roster,
Speaker 4: he was a super value, like he was going super
Speaker 4: late in drafts. But I didn't touch Bobby Witt now
Speaker 4: that it ended up being right, because you know, WIT's
Speaker 4: obviously been incredible at nineteen twenty six this year. Home runs,
Speaker 4: stolen bases, really good so far, and it's just always
Speaker 4: the question mark of you know, what player do we
Speaker 4: see do they struggle out the gate, because for a
Speaker 4: lot of prospects there's an adjustment period and then you
Speaker 4: look and we see the torqual sense of the world
Speaker 4: who have been just had a terrible year.
Speaker 3: To put it up, I was about to say.
Speaker 1: There's kind of three realms, like there's the Julio realm,
Speaker 1: Bobby Witt is kind of it's not quite the Julio Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still in the same range. It's almost
Speaker 1: like a best case outcome. So there might be three
Speaker 1: and then the bottom end is the Torkal Sin and
Speaker 1: what range are you gonna get the problem with If
Speaker 1: you're also evaluating guys, It's like if you wanted to
Speaker 1: start getting some comms. It's like a Tristan Cosas is
Speaker 1: probably closer to a Torkal Sin than the other guys,
Speaker 1: but a Gunner and Corbyn those are better high contact hitters,
Speaker 1: similar to Bobby Witt and Julio Rodriguez. Just an interesting
Speaker 1: it's a whole interesting new world we're in with all
Speaker 1: these prospects, and we're also seeing some of the really
Speaker 1: early success and then they're gonna get a break, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna see, you know, in the off season
Speaker 1: how that progresses and what their cost is going to be.
Speaker 1: You know, I really have no idea because you even guesstimate.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you where guys at Corbyn, Caroly
Speaker 1: and Gunner are gonna go next year.
Speaker 2: But I got but I gotta take a guess.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's inside the top one hundred in redraft, I.
Speaker 4: Would go top fifty. I mean, like at least it
Speaker 4: depends on what their septembers look like like. But I
Speaker 4: could certainly see the value just getting out of control
Speaker 4: and Rob Dpahr already put together a twenty twenty three
Speaker 4: draft champions. They're actually going to be playing out if
Speaker 4: I and this was for Carroll even got the call.
Speaker 4: I think he went top fifty in that draft, if
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. So yeah, So a big September or
Speaker 4: even a solid showing in September from both those, I
Speaker 4: think maybe solidifies him in the top fifty for next year.
Speaker 2: There was another prospect call up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the middle infield or Yankees were probably hoping
Speaker 1: for an Anthony Volpi.
Speaker 2: Anthony Volpi was sent up to.
Speaker 1: Tripa A, but they called up Oswalt Parrazza, who I'm
Speaker 1: actually a Paraza fan. His batting average similar to Volpi,
Speaker 1: just kind of tanked this year, but counting stats are great.
Speaker 1: Nineteen homers, thirty three stolen bases, had one hundred hits
Speaker 1: in the miners this year. Didn't even put up four
Speaker 1: hundred bats and he put up those stats, but again
Speaker 1: he only hit two fifty nine. Twenty two years old,
Speaker 1: play shortstop, could play second base. I've always been quite
Speaker 1: a fan of him. I absolutely love his swing.
Speaker 2: Plague. Any thoughts on Paraza coming up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's easy for people to look at
Speaker 4: the overall line and just see kind of a dis
Speaker 4: not even a disappointing season from a power speed standpoint,
Speaker 4: but you know, two fifty nine average. But it is
Speaker 4: important to realize how good he's really been. His first
Speaker 4: month and a half was pretty bad. Since June two
Speaker 4: ninety one average fourteen home runs, twenty two steals, five
Speaker 4: to eleven slug over that time, and he's really just
Speaker 4: progressively gotten better throughout the season. And again, that's what
Speaker 4: you want to see from these prospects, is just the
Speaker 4: continued development from them. So Paraza is a legit prospect.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people faded him early on.
Speaker 4: He never really budged in my rankings. He has always
Speaker 4: been around like a top sixty prospect for me, and
Speaker 4: that's just who he's been. The profile is everything you
Speaker 4: want to see, and obviously Volpi's the big name, but
Speaker 4: Parazza is also a really solid player. He's just twenty
Speaker 4: two years old and turn twenty two this season, so
Speaker 4: a young twenty two at that. You know, based on
Speaker 4: what we've seen from prospects, I think this is another
Speaker 4: one that's going to fly under the radar and probably
Speaker 4: not get love that he deserves, but be a pretty
Speaker 4: solid contributor for the Yankees. And I think he plays
Speaker 4: every day.
Speaker 1: Really because one of the things I wonder with some
Speaker 1: of these guys that are getting these late calls is
Speaker 1: are any going to be options coming to the Arizona
Speaker 1: Fall League? Are they gonna want some extra because Praza
Speaker 1: got under four hundred at bats, He'll come up to
Speaker 1: the majors if he does play every bit every day.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets to five hundred. Is that gonna be
Speaker 1: enough or do they want to push it more? Because
Speaker 1: the Riggers of a major league season is around six
Speaker 1: hundred at bats, so he could do that if he
Speaker 1: came to the AFL. Same thing with Carrol, same thing
Speaker 1: with Henderson. I'm gonna suspect those two, specifically Henderson and
Speaker 1: Carol are gonna be guys that don't but it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to watch.
Speaker 2: And Monky is a really good point too.
Speaker 1: Finishing this out is like you know, I say, like
Speaker 1: around the hundreds, if we're seeing these guys go in
Speaker 1: the top fifty, we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna get back in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go right back into my redraft stance of
Speaker 1: not valuing these young guys because they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna be overvalued.
Speaker 1: You know, if you've got you've got Carol specifically going
Speaker 1: inside the top fifty in his first full season, and
Speaker 1: then let's just arguably say his counterpart Alec Thomas is going,
Speaker 1: you know, one fifty plus.
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Alec Thomas.
Speaker 1: Think I love Gorbin Carrol, but I just don't know
Speaker 1: if I would take the risk already just because of
Speaker 1: one hundred and something in bats that he would be
Speaker 1: a top fifty overall player. The stolen bass would be great,
Speaker 1: but we're we're all mixed up with guys like Julio
Speaker 1: and Bobby Witt and what they've done this year, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of the argument.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fascinating to talk about Naciason.
Speaker 1: We don't need to do it here, but lots and
Speaker 1: lots of good prospects stuff as well, Prasa, keep a
Speaker 1: lookout for maybe another one of those guys. As we
Speaker 1: were like totally and we left and right, we're just
Speaker 1: getting like fun prospects coming up, and you know.
Speaker 2: Nothing to really help.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of these guys you're necessarily wanting to
Speaker 1: pick up for your playoff runs unless there's you know,
Speaker 1: unless there's a big deficit like Tolia. Maybe if I
Speaker 1: was looking, if I was purely homer stat hunting, Perrazza
Speaker 1: would be a Praza was kind of a five toolish player,
Speaker 1: so I might be willing to but you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: On the stat heroes, Joey Mnesis four for six with
Speaker 1: a homer and four RBIs, Alex Fradugo three for four
Speaker 1: with a homer, Christian Walker with his two twelve batting
Speaker 1: average or whatever it is. I think this is his
Speaker 1: thirty first two for three homer, two RBI. Shehae Lengaliers.
Speaker 1: We talked about looking for some power. He continues to
Speaker 1: show out homer three RBIs with a run. Ty Frantz
Speaker 1: with a homer, Raphael Devers three RBI, going two for five,
Speaker 1: Andrew Vaughn two for five with a homer, Pollock at homer,
Speaker 1: Austin Reilly and Julia Rodriguez one for three with a
Speaker 1: homer and an RBI. Andrew Vaughn, I feel like has
Speaker 1: been quiet on the back half of this year.
Speaker 2: Cleg Where are you at? On Andrew Vaughan.
Speaker 3: He's a tough one. Yeah, he has faded a bit.
Speaker 4: The power hasn't really come along as you expected, but
Speaker 4: the contact skills are really good and he's maintained a
Speaker 4: solid average. Like we expect him to be a higher
Speaker 4: OBP type than this based on everything that we had
Speaker 4: seen in college and in the minors. But he's walking
Speaker 4: in just a five and a half percent rate this year,
Speaker 4: not striking out much. They're sixteen four percent strikeout rates,
Speaker 4: So those are encouraging, But like, where is the power at?
Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest question mark because I always,
Speaker 4: you know, thought that Vaughn would get some more power
Speaker 4: that I thought it was plus power in this profile
Speaker 4: and it still may be.
Speaker 3: I mean, twenty four years old.
Speaker 4: Vaughn's kind of playing a variety of positions, and I
Speaker 4: would say that he's not even comfortable in the outfield
Speaker 4: and he's playing left and right field. He played second
Speaker 4: base twice, I mean, goodness gracious, but his homes at
Speaker 4: first base or even a DH type, So you have
Speaker 4: to wonder how much, you know, the playing the outfield
Speaker 4: positions really affects him at the plate.
Speaker 3: But overall, I'd say.
Speaker 4: It's been a good season, but it's not been a
Speaker 4: great season at that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vaughn is he's actually a lot more of what
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be. I was never
Speaker 1: as big on Vaughn as everybody else. One of my
Speaker 1: nice little hat tips is when everybody was on Vaughn,
Speaker 1: I was Bobby Witt back in that draft class. But
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen homers to eighty nine batting average this year,
Speaker 1: Obp's kind of I remember I was trying to stir
Speaker 1: up some news in spring training when I caught him
Speaker 1: working on a side field at second base. I'm thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to have him as a second basement.
Speaker 1: This was when all the chaos of him not being
Speaker 1: a starter was out there, and he's, you know, for
Speaker 1: the most part, been out there. I think he's eclipse
Speaker 1: four hundred bats, fifteen homers, good batting average. I think
Speaker 1: this is the type of guy that he is. Though
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more average than ever. But I
Speaker 1: guess we were all hoping a little bit more. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a plus plus hit tool, but we were
Speaker 1: hoping that would lead to like some close to plus power,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five to thirty. But we're not quite there.
Speaker 1: If we could only mould Christian Walker and Andrew vaugh
Speaker 1: together we could get like a great fantasy player, think
Speaker 1: a really good fantasy player.
Speaker 3: Pretty epic, yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1: Spincher Strider on the Hero's eight innings, sixteen strikeouts, as
Speaker 1: we talked about, only two hits. Logan Gilbert hit the
Speaker 1: K prop nine strikeouts. I think his prop was four
Speaker 1: and a half six innings, only give up two hits,
Speaker 1: struck out nine. Merle Kelly seven innings, four hits, seven strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish was only at three and a half k's
Speaker 1: on his CA prop yesterday, seven innings, two hits, struck
Speaker 1: out five. Clayton Kershaw another one of those actually on
Speaker 1: the K props. We hit both of them because Clayton
Speaker 1: Kershaw's was super low three and a half and he
Speaker 1: ended up striking out six in five innings. So those
Speaker 1: paid off, especially if you paired those two together. You know,
Speaker 1: even in more of a fun fact, von Grisham, we
Speaker 1: hit three of the four props yesterday.
Speaker 2: And the thing that Bubba said was.
Speaker 1: If you just paired the two easy dogs, the Kershaw
Speaker 1: and the Grisham together, it would pay off, and it did.
Speaker 1: Grisham had a hit and Kershaw struck those out. So
Speaker 1: three of the four paid off on the stat zero's
Speaker 1: Tommy fam Oh for four with three k's, Luis Garcia
Speaker 1: over four with three k's, Matt Olsen, Hazy Saguilar and
Speaker 1: Victor Reyis all with big three K markers on the
Speaker 1: pitching side, and Wardo Rodriguez gave up five and runs
Speaker 1: and a couple homers. Rich Hill four and fourign runs
Speaker 1: and four innings walked fours big four four four and
Speaker 1: Brandon will Drift five and two thirds five earned runs
Speaker 1: four kse. What do you think you will have Brandon Woodruff.
Speaker 2: Ranked next year? Are you a big ran?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not as big of a Brandon Woodriff guy,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm always trying to kind of
Speaker 1: like justify a little bit him not being I just
Speaker 1: don't think he's in that.
Speaker 2: Elite class, that elite elite class. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would have said that before this season, but at
Speaker 4: this point, like he has chopped off a little bit
Speaker 4: for me, and he's faded a bit in the second half.
Speaker 4: Even though the numbers do look good, there's been a
Speaker 4: few more of these blow up type starts, which is
Speaker 4: interesting to see. Even though he does have a three
Speaker 4: to zero er A in the second half, like he
Speaker 4: just had some inconsistencies and I don't know, he's tough,
Speaker 4: like he's a borderline top ten guy.
Speaker 2: For you.
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, all right, Brandon Woodroff
Speaker 1: or Spencer Strider.
Speaker 3: I knew that's where you're going.
Speaker 2: I got all excited. I thought of it.
Speaker 1: I was just dancing here waiting to ask. It's Spencer
Speaker 1: Strider Brandon Woodruff in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: I do think it's close.
Speaker 4: I think that Woodroff probably gets you a little more safety,
Speaker 4: but Strider probably has a little bit more upside based
Speaker 4: on what we've seen with the strikeouts and the lowered
Speaker 4: walk right. So right now, I'd probably say it's a
Speaker 4: coin flip, but it's based on what you'd either have
Speaker 4: the safety of a wood driff where you know you're
Speaker 4: going to get it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't fall on yours.
Speaker 3: And Sider.
Speaker 2: There we go. I just wanted to see you. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to hear it. I wanted to hear Striider.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I think I might be with you there on the
Speaker 1: home run calls. I'm sorry, friends, we do not have
Speaker 1: an updated board. I was not given an updated board,
Speaker 1: so don't blame me. Austin Riley though made some movement
Speaker 1: on the leader board because there was a lot of
Speaker 1: Austin Riley yesterday. Your leader is still de Blum at
Speaker 1: forty nine, who had Matt Olson just like me, did
Speaker 1: not work out. I Cubby though had Austin Riley and
Speaker 1: has now moved within one of Deeblum at forty eight.
Speaker 1: Go Cards had Gallows, So it's staying at forty seven,
Speaker 1: and then cat Fox at.
Speaker 2: Forty six, Skull l Skull at.
Speaker 1: Forty five, and that is kind of the list there.
Speaker 1: Thank god Joe was knocked off of it. Mike Mayer
Speaker 1: is still on the board, but there's a lot more
Speaker 1: separation now. Now it's not like twelve people are tied.
Speaker 1: There's really forty eight forty what does it go? Forty five,
Speaker 1: forty four, forty five, forty six seven eight for nine.
Speaker 2: That is like the top of the leader board here.
Speaker 1: So it is any man's race or woman's or anybody's
Speaker 1: race with only like what is it twenty eight days
Speaker 1: to go? It's kind of exciting. It's kind of exciting
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Speaker 2: So we've got as usual, two.
Speaker 1: Total base the number one play and the number one
Speaker 1: plus money play, and then we've got strikeouts, the number
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Speaker 2: Prop cheat Sheet.
Speaker 1: Prop cheat Sheet Danny Jansen is the number one play
Speaker 1: at minus one fIF two to just get a hit.
Speaker 1: It's one total base, that's all you need. No walk,
Speaker 1: but just one hit is essentially what you need. It
Speaker 1: is minus one fifty two. He's projected over two. And
Speaker 1: the plus money play it's actually even but I don't
Speaker 1: want to go all the way down Dan Vogebach versus
Speaker 1: Washington total bases. You just need one and it is
Speaker 1: even money. It's even money.
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that. I thought it was one
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 1: It is even money for just one hit for the
Speaker 1: Vogues if you want to take that on the strikeouts.
Speaker 1: The number one play is Jeffrey Springs, who I believe
Speaker 1: has been on this list a ton as like the
Speaker 1: number one play anytime he pitches, it's just based off
Speaker 1: of like projections on what the books want to go
Speaker 1: thinking he's not going to go deep in innings, but
Speaker 1: he does have the Yankees, so the number is four
Speaker 1: and a half. It's minus one sixty. They're projected over six,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty Chue stuff. My favorite of all of
Speaker 1: these is the plus money play of Sonny Gray. Sonny
Speaker 1: Gray only four and a half strikeout number against the
Speaker 1: White Sox and he's projected over five. I love this play.
Speaker 1: This would be one I would go with. So, Chris,
Speaker 1: what do you think you got? Springs?
Speaker 2: Gray on the strikeouts, Vogelbach, Janssen, what do you like?
Speaker 2: Do you like any? Do you like multiple? What are
Speaker 2: you playing here?
Speaker 4: The Gray ones pretty much a no brainer for me,
Speaker 4: I think at this point you look at I mean, yes,
Speaker 4: Gray only struck out four in his last start, but
Speaker 4: it was against the Giants prior that he went six ten, five, five,
Speaker 4: five seven.
Speaker 3: Yesterday the sock.
Speaker 4: Struck out twelve times, and on Tuesday that was they
Speaker 4: struck out eleven times.
Speaker 3: So to me, that feels like a pretty.
Speaker 4: Good play for the plus money. I do like Jansen
Speaker 4: as well. Obviously there's a little juice there. Springs could
Speaker 4: be interesting. Obviously going against the Yankees could work out.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how I feel about the fogel block
Speaker 4: when to be honest, he's been kind of in and out.
Speaker 4: He hasn't had a hit since the twenty second of August,
Speaker 4: so that's.
Speaker 2: Why it's either that's why I did the money, right.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the Gray one's pretty much a no brainer
Speaker 3: in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I was laughing Heller high Water
Speaker 1: and said, I think Strader just had another k just
Speaker 1: like right now. Also, I would say, I think Wonky
Speaker 1: is like alluding to this. Just pick a red sock
Speaker 1: and be comfortable taking the total base marker. I didn't
Speaker 1: even look. But let's see if I could take a look
Speaker 1: real quick. I'm gonna go to the Boston game. Like
Speaker 1: Xander Bogart's total bases would be one I would play,
Speaker 1: And I think that is something we're gonna hear in
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Okay, so let's see bear with me here
Speaker 2: for a second, because this is where you're gonna make
Speaker 2: some money, is going against Dallas Kaikle. So on the
Speaker 2: Boston guys, I mean, I like JD.
Speaker 1: Martinez. They actually are not even listing. I don't even
Speaker 1: see on the cheat sheet Xander Bogarts. He took them off.
Speaker 1: But you almost have even money on JD. Martinez total
Speaker 1: bases you need one and a half. I'd smash that.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love that one. Like it over the Trevor
Speaker 1: story one whatever. I don't see Xanders, but if it's
Speaker 1: out there, I would take a look at that as well.
Speaker 1: But I would take the Jady Martinez one and I
Speaker 1: would be very happy with it.
Speaker 2: On the DFS side, some pictures for you.
Speaker 1: Alec Manoa is eleven on FanDuel Luis Castillo is ten
Speaker 1: to eight. Sonny Gray is nine to one, and Jordan
Speaker 1: Montgomery is nine to six, but we're playing on the
Speaker 1: cheap side.
Speaker 2: Gray Montgomery, those are two that I like. I always
Speaker 2: love Luis Castillo in.
Speaker 1: There implied run totals of over five. You've got Saint
Speaker 1: Louis Toronto in Boston if you want to play some
Speaker 1: stacks and yes, Boston, So just anybody in the front
Speaker 1: of the lineup, and that takes us to the home
Speaker 1: run calls. Claig, what do you got on here? The
Speaker 1: guests have been doing pretty good so far this season.
Speaker 1: Who's your home run call for Friday?
Speaker 3: This one was kind of tough.
Speaker 4: I went back and forth on how I felt about
Speaker 4: today's call. I was kind of leaning Aaron Judge, but
Speaker 4: I don't know it's I had a couple so I'm
Speaker 4: just gonn to just make the call, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: actually stick with Judge. I think he's, you know, the
Speaker 4: most likely going up against Springs. Lefty like the matchup
Speaker 4: even in Tampa, and Judge's power kind of transcends that park.
Speaker 4: So it's Aaron Judge today, and I think Judge has
Speaker 4: a big weekend as well.
Speaker 1: You and Joey, You, and Wonky has got Xander Bogarts,
Speaker 1: Mike Mayer's got Jose Ramirez. I think Ramirez is one
Speaker 1: of the better BVP plays of the day. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go jad Martinez. I literally, when I was looking
Speaker 1: through the schedule and I saw Dallas Kaykel, I said,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta pick a red sock. And if
Speaker 1: it was if Kaiko was Alridy, I would have gone
Speaker 1: with Rafael Devers. So I needed my next writing. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to copy Wonky with Xander, but I.
Speaker 2: Like jd just as much.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's hitting If he's theoretically hitting fifth in
Speaker 1: the lineup, you know, the opportunities for Xander to get
Speaker 1: another at bat increase a little bit.
Speaker 2: But it's Dallas Kaykel, so I don't think it's gonna matter.
Speaker 1: Dallas Kikele probably gonna last three innings anyway, So they're
Speaker 1: gonna each get two at bats and hopefully gonna be
Speaker 1: some crushing of homers and friends that is it click?
Speaker 2: What do you got going on? What's going down in
Speaker 2: your world?
Speaker 4: Not too much, man, it's wrapping up minor league stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, We've got one more home series here in Greenville,
Speaker 4: so be out a couple of times next week for
Speaker 4: the end of the Drive season. I don't think they're
Speaker 4: gonna make the playoffs, but it's been a good one.
Speaker 4: Got a lot of looks, a lot of good players,
Speaker 4: so it's been fun. Still doing Quick Grades. I've unfortunately
Speaker 4: wrapped up my last prospects to stash for Fantasy pros.
Speaker 4: That article was the last one of last week, so
Speaker 4: a lot of those hits, a lot of good ones.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you were rewarded with some of those prospects.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Quick Grades is out now, will be out
Speaker 4: every Friday or Saturday the rest of the week there.
Speaker 3: So that's really what's coming around on Fantasy pro.
Speaker 4: Still doing Dynasty Ranks, prospect ranks on fan tracks as well,
Speaker 4: so you can find those there.
Speaker 1: Beautiful find them on Twitter at rode O Clegg. By
Speaker 1: the way, Wonky said found even money on Xander one
Speaker 1: and a half on fantol total basis.
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