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Speaker 1: Savannah Humoler, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. It's a Thursday here inside the
Speaker 3: SWBC podcast studio at the Star in Frisco, and this
Speaker 3: is Mickshots. And there are football players on a football
Speaker 3: field just beyond the windows that's surround the SWBC podcast studio.
Speaker 3: And Mickey Spagnola has been out on that football field.
Speaker 3: He's taking a good look at who's in uniform and
Speaker 3: who's not. And Everson Walls and Savannah Humoler. They have
Speaker 3: football players in football pads today that you know they
Speaker 3: mean business.
Speaker 4: Yeah listen, uh, Spags are still going to blow it
Speaker 4: when it comes down to the final roster. I have
Speaker 4: no confidence in you as man after after that game?
Speaker 2: What was that? The Cardinals game? I blamed you?
Speaker 4: Did you get my text after that was heard?
Speaker 2: How come you did that? Yeah? You're supposed to be
Speaker 2: a guy man.
Speaker 5: I guess I should have walked down the aisle in
Speaker 5: the plane and see who was yes, informost of it.
Speaker 2: You didn't know about the the Tyler smith Uh pothole.
Speaker 3: So it's a with a grain of salt that you
Speaker 3: listen to Mickey Spagnola tell us who's out.
Speaker 2: On everything happens after we go off.
Speaker 5: I wanted you to know that I wasn't on the
Speaker 5: fan yesterday because of Mike starting at eleven and they
Speaker 5: had booked a on merrim them for some reason at
Speaker 5: eleven twenty, so they said we'll get you tomorrow. Well,
Speaker 5: when I came through the parking lot, the guy that
Speaker 5: does the mobile car washes in there, he goes, so
Speaker 5: were you late or were they late? And I go
Speaker 5: to you mean? He goes, I was waiting for you
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock and you weren't there. And I said,
Speaker 5: they told me they didn't need me.
Speaker 6: He goes, what do you mean they didn't need me?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 6: I was driving around waiting for you. So they just
Speaker 6: let that be a lesson to you.
Speaker 3: The people are waiting with they did breath. That's right,
Speaker 3: Nicky has to say about who's on the practice.
Speaker 5: I thought for sure they'd be indoors after the storms
Speaker 5: last night. It was, especially when they showed me the
Speaker 5: rain at FC Dallas that interrupted that game.
Speaker 3: You couldn't no, I.
Speaker 5: Don't think so they had to call it. And I'm going, well,
Speaker 5: there's no way they're practicing outdoors today.
Speaker 3: But you got here and there is equipment on the
Speaker 3: field with a little sunlight on it. And they went.
Speaker 6: To so question for you, were you working last night?
Speaker 5: I was, did you sit in the office for five
Speaker 5: hours and do nothing?
Speaker 3: I so it's ten thirty rolled around and it was
Speaker 3: obvious at ten o'clock when when they put a tornado
Speaker 3: warning out, when they put a tornado war ninety five,
Speaker 3: they issued a tornado warning, uh for the Middle Lothian
Speaker 3: area or whatever not that they don't matter.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's not dismiss it. That was very dismissing.
Speaker 3: It's the tornado warning was until ten thirty. I said, well,
Speaker 3: we ain't having sports tonight. I could have gone home then,
Speaker 3: but it was raining.
Speaker 6: And nobody had sports. And I'm going, you know what
Speaker 6: they had to spend or at.
Speaker 5: Least one station spent money to send their crew to Tampa.
Speaker 5: And I said, well, they're not going to waste that.
Speaker 5: They're going to come back for sports.
Speaker 3: In the station. The weather guy, uh delcas uh. He
Speaker 3: must I've got all I've got all the stations up
Speaker 3: in my office.
Speaker 6: He must have talked for an hour straight.
Speaker 3: And he was saying, well, they say this is supposed
Speaker 3: to be a tornado, but I don't see a tornado
Speaker 3: in there at all.
Speaker 2: It was very weak, that's right.
Speaker 4: Said it was unimpressive, unimpressive, sounded disappointed.
Speaker 6: If it's unimpressive, wire, I watch this for an.
Speaker 3: Hour, no sports, no sports, Yeah and so and so
Speaker 3: all the stations have to even though it's very unimpressive.
Speaker 3: What's happened because everybody else is doing weather. We got
Speaker 3: a new weather.
Speaker 4: Too, because he just sounded disappointed.
Speaker 2: Impressive, God, it's not going to tear up anything. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm not here.
Speaker 6: I was thinking of Bill.
Speaker 5: I said, well, he's got all this great stuff and
Speaker 5: highlights of the Rangers winning the nobody saw it, and
Speaker 5: nobody saw it.
Speaker 3: Poor Rangers. The one night, the one night they win
Speaker 3: a postseason series, they're going to get all this coverage
Speaker 3: and weather. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They they want you to cover, cover the celebration. Yeah,
Speaker 4: cover this celebration. You got your dog in the last celebration.
Speaker 3: A tornado that wasn't there re empted them all right,
Speaker 3: so uh, at least this celebration was for something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think it's no criticism for this Champagne celebrated.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you look at it, they still
Speaker 2: got to go to Baltimore. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: They skill still could be home five days resting, may
Speaker 4: still be resting.
Speaker 3: So the real test, the real test on that celebration
Speaker 3: last week is whether they win the next series.
Speaker 2: You go, Now, they put pressure on themselves every stop.
Speaker 5: And you could spray Champagne. Doesn't mean you have to drink.
Speaker 2: Right right right.
Speaker 4: Well, I got to admit I was very impressed with him.
Speaker 4: I sat down and watched the whole game. Like, man,
Speaker 4: these guys, I don't know, I don't know what you
Speaker 4: think they have it? You think they have it?
Speaker 2: You like that?
Speaker 3: Like that that rookie from Jason Whitten's hometown.
Speaker 5: Car and he doesn't like Champagne.
Speaker 3: And the other rookie from Texas, Man, he's a boy.
Speaker 6: Well, I guess one something. They had to check his ID.
Speaker 3: He just turned twenty one. He's never had a sim Yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: Never had a sip.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said, I'll take.
Speaker 3: A beer Okay, there you go, Okay, real man.
Speaker 5: All right, So injury right, that's right, And here we
Speaker 5: are talking baseball and tornadoes that weren't. I saw everybody
Speaker 5: out there that was on the extensive injury report yesterday,
Speaker 5: most of them not injury rest.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: The only person that wasn't out there was Peyton Hendershot.
Speaker 5: He's got a ankle and he was out yesterday, did
Speaker 5: not practice, and it didn't look like he was practicing today.
Speaker 5: But the encouraging thing ever since was that Tyron Smith
Speaker 5: yesterday was listed at non injury rest and he was
Speaker 5: out there in pads. So was Zach Martin listed as
Speaker 5: non injury rest yesterday with a thigh. He was in pads.
Speaker 5: So was Beattish, Tyler Smith, and Terrence Steele. So there
Speaker 5: is a chance a chance as last day, first team
Speaker 5: offensive line will be on the field together for the
Speaker 5: first time all year.
Speaker 4: We saw him on the cords yesterday, right, Yeah, they
Speaker 4: look good. You said you can't have a.
Speaker 5: Bad knee and do those things shuffle that they were doing.
Speaker 5: That's right. So Damone Clark was out there in pads.
Speaker 5: Ric O'Donnell out there in pads and he told me,
Speaker 5: I'm fine, I've got a bruise guy with a helmet,
Speaker 5: helmet in the in the hip and he goes, it's
Speaker 5: just sore.
Speaker 2: What happened to the days of just just tape it up?
Speaker 5: You can't take off a contusion, have injury reports back
Speaker 5: in your day?
Speaker 3: I don't remember this.
Speaker 4: Are you serious? Come on, man, I'm not like Rayphiel
Speaker 4: right that somebody? Man, Come on, I was. I came
Speaker 4: into eighties. Things were kind of modern. We started. We
Speaker 4: were good with computer paper. Remember yeah, we actually ushered in.
Speaker 4: Come on, Gill Brand, remember me, Gil Yeah, come on,
Speaker 4: Tom just told I don't.
Speaker 3: Know that we had to have injury reports back then
Speaker 3: these there wasn't any.
Speaker 4: We were never injured as far as we were concerned,
Speaker 4: because I know if I was injured then I probably
Speaker 4: lose my job.
Speaker 2: So I never went into put some spin out. I
Speaker 2: never I just put an extra take Savannah, take it up?
Speaker 2: That was it?
Speaker 3: So, Savannah, how are things doing on the text line
Speaker 3: over there? What is that number again? Let's see text line?
Speaker 3: It would be eight one seven two nine oh three
Speaker 3: two nine eight.
Speaker 5: Do you care about the San Francisco in dreams? Sure?
Speaker 5: The Only Star debo debo was limited with ribs in
Speaker 5: knee fun so they listed him as limited.
Speaker 2: He's not missing this.
Speaker 5: Juwan Jennings there, I guess third or fourth wide receiver
Speaker 5: was limited. The rest of the guys that did not
Speaker 5: practice h John Feliciano backup center guard.
Speaker 3: Who by the way, they're backup center. John Feliciano started
Speaker 3: fifteen games for the New York Giants last year and
Speaker 3: signed in free agency with San Francis. You think the
Speaker 3: Giants could use.
Speaker 5: Him, Yes, yes, especially Schmidt or Schmidt's whatever his name
Speaker 5: is is injured linebacker Dre Greenlaw did not practice. He's
Speaker 5: there starting will linebacker. They rested McCaffrey. I'm sure he
Speaker 5: needed it. They back up running back Elijah Missil Mitchell
Speaker 5: didn't practice. Cornerback should Various Ward was out yesterday and
Speaker 5: they rested Trent Williams. So maybe that'll help him get
Speaker 5: within three yards of the line of scrimmage when he
Speaker 5: gets in his stance.
Speaker 3: Oh, you've done some scouting.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 2: Doesn't take much scouting for that guy.
Speaker 5: The head is supposed to cross the center's belt.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows now. Everyone knows now that he does the
Speaker 4: wrong thing.
Speaker 6: Every's so he's so far back. You got to take
Speaker 6: three steps to.
Speaker 4: Get to him, and he takes off fast and he
Speaker 4: gets earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should do.
Speaker 5: I asked somebody yesterday. I said, one of the defensive guys.
Speaker 5: I said, did you guys see when he kind of
Speaker 5: digs his toe in the ground like it should be
Speaker 5: a false start before the snap? They go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: we see it. They don't call it. Doesn't do any
Speaker 5: good to say anything.
Speaker 3: Jordan rules rules.
Speaker 2: He's that good. He's not that kid.
Speaker 3: He's a ten time pro bowler.
Speaker 2: Well he enjoyed.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, if you get a head start like that, well,
Speaker 5: it'd be interesting to see what the Micah can do.
Speaker 3: I think Michael w worked that side much. I bet
Speaker 3: he does. I bet he does. Got a fifth round
Speaker 3: draft pick, Colton mckivott's at right tackle. Of course, that
Speaker 3: Matt McGlinchey, who was their starter for the last four
Speaker 3: or five years, former first round pick. He signed with
Speaker 3: Denver in the offseason. So they're going they drafted mckivts
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty in the fifth round and he's just
Speaker 3: starting right tackle, which.
Speaker 6: By the way, we didn't have.
Speaker 5: I mean, we just kind of got the news that
Speaker 5: Randon Gregory got released yesterday, so I looked into it.
Speaker 5: Sean Payton like officially got released or well, they were
Speaker 5: waiting for a trade. They were trying to trade it
Speaker 5: and they couldn't do anything. And so when they said
Speaker 5: is he gone, well he's not here, but we'll see.
Speaker 5: So they were still trying to work a trade with him.
Speaker 5: But it made me think because he ended up signing
Speaker 5: with with the Broncos, who, by the way, getting rid
Speaker 5: of him is going to cost him sixteen million dollars
Speaker 5: against the salary cap.
Speaker 7: It's a pretty penny.
Speaker 5: Think about what he's done there. I think he ended
Speaker 5: up with maybe playing ten games and limited this year.
Speaker 5: He had like two sacks. But because they he decided
Speaker 5: to leave and they didn't spend that money, they were
Speaker 5: able to re sign Dorns Armstrong, who ended up with
Speaker 5: eight and a half sacks last year. They were able
Speaker 5: to sign Dante Fowler, who had six sacks last year
Speaker 5: and probably played my Parsons more at defensive end as
Speaker 5: a pass rusher than they would have if Randy Gregory
Speaker 5: was there, and he had thirteen and a half sacks
Speaker 5: last year, so they more than compensated for his loss.
Speaker 5: And Denver didn't get banged for the buck by signing
Speaker 5: him to that big contract. Has he signed with New
Speaker 5: England yet?
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's been released yet.
Speaker 5: Maybe they haven't officially done it yet.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're still trying, sources say. And what often happens
Speaker 3: on that is it'll get floated that he's going to
Speaker 3: be released.
Speaker 5: So Sean Payton sounded like they were cleaning out the
Speaker 5: locker room.
Speaker 3: Okay, that they but if they haven't released him yet,
Speaker 3: no one else can. Then if there is a team
Speaker 3: that would be interested, Yeah, just like what It's basically
Speaker 3: what the Chargers did with the Patriots.
Speaker 2: J C.
Speaker 3: Jackson did not play the last couple of games. He
Speaker 3: had some legal issues back in Massachusetts, and so they
Speaker 3: were about to release him. But then the Patriots on
Speaker 3: Sunday lose their first round draft pick, cornerback Christian Gonzalez
Speaker 3: at AT and T Stadium to an season ending injury,
Speaker 3: and so they worked out a deal, and the deal
Speaker 3: was an exchange of late round draft picks in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. But what the deal really was is the
Speaker 3: Chargers are eating the contract and the Patriots don't have
Speaker 3: to fight anybody else to get to kend Jackson. And
Speaker 3: so in a situation like that, whether it's this player
Speaker 3: or any other player, sometimes you will float it out
Speaker 3: there and then if Sunday you have an injury, you
Speaker 3: can do what the Patriots did in that case.
Speaker 5: These Cowboys must be pretty Kim.
Speaker 3: Akers was a the same deal with the with the Rams, right,
Speaker 3: and then he went to the Vikings.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, Cowboys must be pretty physical.
Speaker 5: Because the Patriots lost two guys for the season with injuries.
Speaker 3: Ju Don also two best defensive players this year.
Speaker 4: I think Gravy was good here, right, Yes, don't don't,
Speaker 4: don't speak too fast, yes, and so what happened?
Speaker 2: I just want to know.
Speaker 4: I mean, we speak of him as if he's you know,
Speaker 4: yesterday's news.
Speaker 5: They tried, they they thought they had him resign. He agreed,
Speaker 5: and then Denver gave him the same contract, but basically
Speaker 5: in their contract it was like, well, if you get suspended,
Speaker 5: we're not going to take any of your signing bonus.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys had that in their No.
Speaker 2: No, no, I would call that. I would call that.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, what happened when he went to Denver. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to see.
Speaker 5: He only played ten games. I think last year he
Speaker 5: got he played.
Speaker 3: Last year he played six games, three starts, He had
Speaker 3: two sacks, twelve tackles, seven quarterback hits. This year four games,
Speaker 3: there was ten total YEP. This year four games, three starts,
Speaker 3: one sack. His time with the Cowboys, Okay, we're asking
Speaker 3: he was good here. He was good when he was
Speaker 3: held field.
Speaker 4: On the field, and that had become him being well
Speaker 4: on the field that they posted not well.
Speaker 3: Okay, twenty twenty one with Dallas twelve games, eleven starts,
Speaker 3: six sacks, and he had seventeen quarterback pressures. Twenty twenty
Speaker 3: ten games, no starts, three and a half sacks. Twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen fourteen games, one start, six sacks, twenty sixteen two games,
Speaker 3: one sack, twenty fifteen twelve games.
Speaker 2: No sacks.
Speaker 3: If you totaled Dallas, he had sixteen and a half
Speaker 3: sacks from twenty fifteen through twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: And if you go the other way instead of going
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one back, would you go you know twenty
Speaker 4: sixteen four?
Speaker 3: Use the improvements and so the last.
Speaker 7: His last past year, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Well, his last three years that how twenty well, twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen is not included in that because he wasn't on
Speaker 3: the field in twenty nine. Because he got twenty twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen through twenty one is four years. You're looking at
Speaker 3: fifteen and a half sacks in four years.
Speaker 5: So and I think.
Speaker 2: But he but he was.
Speaker 4: He was part of a very good, uh Cowboys defense
Speaker 4: that has the reputation that it has right now.
Speaker 2: He was up, he was acting thought of that when
Speaker 2: he was eligible to.
Speaker 3: Available, Yes he was, but the problem was he wasn't available.
Speaker 3: That's why the Cowboys stuck with him.
Speaker 7: Well, Mike from Boston wants to know if we think
Speaker 7: the Cowboys have any interest in bringing him back for
Speaker 7: cheap and we are not.
Speaker 3: And I'm not addressing that. I'm not addressing that because
Speaker 3: he is property of the Denver Broncos until told otherwise.
Speaker 2: So we can't even think I bring him. Think I'm
Speaker 2: not allowed to confuse.
Speaker 6: You don't want to violate the NFL.
Speaker 2: Rule, right, So.
Speaker 3: I'd like to when we come back here kind of
Speaker 3: break down, compare the Cowboys and the Niners. Look at
Speaker 3: the rosters. I think that's a good one, and compare
Speaker 3: the two. It is very interesting. I think when we
Speaker 3: come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 3: All right, we are on mixed shots here. We're taking
Speaker 3: your tics eight one seven, two nine zero three two
Speaker 3: nine eight. Savannah's got that covered, and let's cover Cowboys
Speaker 3: versus Niners in how these two teams match up with
Speaker 3: each other. And I just want to go not so
Speaker 3: much matchup offense versus defense, but look at the roster
Speaker 3: and SISC where would you like to start on offense
Speaker 3: or start on defense?
Speaker 2: Go offense?
Speaker 3: You want to start at quarterback? Yeah, he got It.
Speaker 3: Is interesting how Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott compared to
Speaker 3: each other their background. I mean, Dak was at Mississippi
Speaker 3: State and you can definitely make the case might be
Speaker 3: the best player in Mississippi State history, led that team
Speaker 3: to its highest ranking ever. They were number one ranked
Speaker 3: in the country for five weeks his junior season.
Speaker 2: And that was on his back.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, that's right. And Brock Purdy, meanwhile, it was
Speaker 3: at Iowa State and he was a four year starter
Speaker 3: there and they became a top ten team on his
Speaker 3: watch as a quarterback of that team. And if you
Speaker 3: know the history of Iowa State football, that's probably one
Speaker 3: of the best four year stretches in that university's history. Okay,
Speaker 3: then they are both third day draft picks. Dak of course,
Speaker 3: in the fourth round and Mystery Irrelevant was the last
Speaker 3: pick of the draft last year. And then their rookie season,
Speaker 3: an injury occurs to not just the start quarterback but
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback, giving both of them the opportunity to
Speaker 3: play their rookie season. And what did Dak do when
Speaker 3: he became the starting quarterback? It was a thirteen and
Speaker 3: three Records Visions championship, won eleven of his first twelve
Speaker 3: games that year, including an eleven game win streak. And
Speaker 3: what has brock Purty done. He's on He's working on
Speaker 3: twelve straight games in which he has started and finished
Speaker 3: that he has won. He's twelve and zero in games
Speaker 3: that he has started and finished which he did not finish.
Speaker 3: He only was in for like four plays of that NFC.
Speaker 5: Champions win was his first game last year during their
Speaker 5: ten game winning streak.
Speaker 3: It I have to look it up for you, but
Speaker 3: it was in the midst of that.
Speaker 5: It was they had already won those games with Garoppolo.
Speaker 3: I think I'm including the playoff wins too in that well.
Speaker 2: He had two on it.
Speaker 3: Two playoffs and then four to six and so it
Speaker 3: was six games he won in the regular six of
Speaker 3: his ten.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, so very similar paths. You would think Dak
Speaker 5: has more experience than him obviously.
Speaker 3: And has.
Speaker 5: Won more games, but yeah, kind of kind of similar.
Speaker 3: And he brock Purty is doing with this Niners team
Speaker 3: kind of what Dak did in his rookie year, which
Speaker 3: is Dak only had four interceptions that year. I think
Speaker 3: it was twenty three touchdown passes he had. They relied
Speaker 3: on running the football and it put him in a
Speaker 3: great position to have success. And that's what brock purty's
Speaker 3: doing with Christian McCaffrey behind him.
Speaker 4: That's when Zek that actually catch the ball back in
Speaker 4: the day when he was younger. I remember the screen
Speaker 4: pass against the Steelers that.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous twenty three and four.
Speaker 5: One touchdowns and interceptions. Yeah, finished with a quarterback rating
Speaker 5: of one hundred and four point nine. By the way,
Speaker 5: people forget this about him. In twenty twenty one, he
Speaker 5: finished with a one oh four point two quarterback rating,
Speaker 5: and all the rest were in the nineties except for
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen when it was eighty six point six.
Speaker 4: Probably one of the better games I've seen in Cowboys
Speaker 4: Stadium was the Packers versus Cowboys twenty team. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: spins out, that's on the last drive and we get
Speaker 4: throws the first down to the tight end.
Speaker 2: Is he still in the league.
Speaker 4: I can't remember the tight end's name, but he was
Speaker 4: a very good tight end and they ended up kicking
Speaker 4: like a fifty plus yard field.
Speaker 2: Jared Cook Jered Cook.
Speaker 4: Yeah, at that time, he was really just making his
Speaker 4: mark on the league, and that was one of his
Speaker 4: better plays that he's ever made, more meaningful plays he's
Speaker 4: ever made.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was one of Dak's best games
Speaker 2: that he's ever played this moment.
Speaker 5: People forget that he put up thirty one points in
Speaker 5: that game and had to drive down the end to
Speaker 5: tie that game up.
Speaker 2: We thought that would be the last.
Speaker 5: Left, like fifty seconds left for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Well, what was unfortunate.
Speaker 4: But we didn't realize after he's done it three or
Speaker 4: four times that season that Aaron Rodgers was actually pirouetting
Speaker 4: and spending out the out of the rush.
Speaker 2: And on third and four, which he had done three.
Speaker 4: Times that that year already with one of them. Mihel
Speaker 4: Mary on a Monday night game. I believe it was
Speaker 4: against the Detroit Alliance and he was able to do that.
Speaker 4: So he was known for doing that that entire season,
Speaker 4: and we were surprised when he did it against us
Speaker 4: in that playoff game on that last drive.
Speaker 5: And it helped that the center was tackling one of
Speaker 5: the Cowboys defensive lineman from behind.
Speaker 3: Play What does what do people think? It was one
Speaker 3: of Troy Aikman's greatest games of his career. He was
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game at San Francisco and the Cowboys
Speaker 3: fell behind twenty one and nothing to start the game
Speaker 3: and brought him back right and almost pulled off the victory.
Speaker 3: That was That was like the Dak game you're talking about,
Speaker 3: because Green Bay got up on Dallas twenty one to
Speaker 3: three midway through the second quarter of that game and
Speaker 3: Dak brought him back only to see Aaron Rodgers do
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 5: So there and there's this perception out there that Dak
Speaker 5: camp put the team on his shoulder and bring him
Speaker 5: back in.
Speaker 2: How old was he? How was he that that in
Speaker 2: that game?
Speaker 3: Probably twenty twenty three?
Speaker 4: Yeah, very young. He did that at twenty three years old.
Speaker 4: That was very impressive. And yeah, no one wants to
Speaker 4: say that their best game was a game that they
Speaker 4: lost in, right, it happens, but no, you just don't
Speaker 4: want to take the price, right.
Speaker 5: Do you know what that ninety four team will tell
Speaker 5: you how good that game was. After they spotted San
Speaker 5: Francisco at twenty one to nothing lead with three turnovers
Speaker 5: on their first three possessions.
Speaker 4: Troy would rather tell you. Troy would rather pick another game.
Speaker 2: Right, I can tell you from experience, But.
Speaker 5: Nate and Frisco and he'll tell you that was one
Speaker 5: of the most memorable games he played in because they
Speaker 5: fought back and they didn't give up, and they were
Speaker 5: within a non interference call on Dion Sanders from basically
Speaker 5: getting tie in that game.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 4: That's the first time and only time I've ever seen
Speaker 4: Dion whipped, right, I've never seen him. Look, I've never
Speaker 4: seen him look like that before. Michael Irvin was owning
Speaker 4: him that game.
Speaker 6: If you think about it.
Speaker 5: They started off thinking they were going to take Elvin
Speaker 5: Harper away with Dion Sanders and double team Mike, and
Speaker 5: that didn't work, so they put Dion on Michael, double
Speaker 5: teamed Harper and Dion got.
Speaker 4: With it was the physicality of Michael Irvin. Right, I've
Speaker 4: never seen him in Poe his will like that on
Speaker 4: one individual like he did on.
Speaker 5: And he had him beat for that touchdown and he
Speaker 5: grabs him and whole game.
Speaker 3: Around because snow fly Savannah. You like the way we're
Speaker 3: breaking down this roster, Sniders.
Speaker 6: I think we got hung up on the quarterback.
Speaker 12: We see this.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have started with the quarterback. We got two minutes,
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna are.
Speaker 2: We gonna gettes?
Speaker 3: Are we going to do ten minutes on your position?
Speaker 2: Okay, go through history running running.
Speaker 3: Back and go back to the playoff history of the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: We did a hell of a job.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, running back, running back running that one of
Speaker 4: the best in the league right now, right.
Speaker 3: Right's right, Tony the league, Okay, if you want to
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 5: And in the two losses, Pollard didn't really get an opportunity.
Speaker 5: I think he had six touches in the twenty one
Speaker 5: playoff loss and then he got hurt.
Speaker 3: Was it first quarter?
Speaker 5: Second second quarter?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Yes, in the second quarter right before an interception, right.
Speaker 5: Before the interception, right, okay, wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Well, it starts with Debo on one side and c
Speaker 3: D on the other side.
Speaker 4: Okay, and they are totally two different types of players
Speaker 4: to me. Right, they use they used the same, but
Speaker 4: their strengths are totally different.
Speaker 5: So they got they got Debo Ayuk and.
Speaker 2: And are you the healthy.
Speaker 5: Juwan Jennings or Ray Ray.
Speaker 7: McCloud Ayuk is also he's coming off of a career high.
Speaker 7: He had one hundred and forty eight yards in Arizona
Speaker 7: and he rans fifth in explosive place and leads the
Speaker 7: league in yards.
Speaker 2: Per route run well matchup there.
Speaker 7: They also zero drops this season.
Speaker 3: A rookie that they used some Ronnie Bill seventh round
Speaker 3: pick out of Michigan like the Big Green Notebook liked him.
Speaker 5: So so full back approval.
Speaker 6: Juice sect Juici.
Speaker 3: How do you say to Kyle you.
Speaker 5: Know?
Speaker 3: And and is the standard bearer fullbacks in this league?
Speaker 3: Seven time pro bowler out of Harvard. But Cowboys, I.
Speaker 2: Like matches his energy.
Speaker 6: He went on right.
Speaker 3: Now, he went to the Harvard of the Midwest, North
Speaker 3: Dakota State.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go with that.
Speaker 5: Cowboys got somebody from North Dakota State, right, two guys, right,
Speaker 5: we just two guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not right. Yeah, we know you didn't mention that,
Speaker 2: because now that the full back Harvard, he wants to
Speaker 2: go off. He wants to go off the deep end end.
Speaker 2: We're trying to stay. Thank you.
Speaker 3: You got tight ends.
Speaker 4: All our tight ends we have to tight ends, and
Speaker 4: they're all just as good as Kittle together.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you put them all together.
Speaker 5: Right, that's Hendershot might now be on the field.
Speaker 3: And the backups for Kittle are Ross Dwelly, Charlie Warner
Speaker 3: and Brayden Willis out of the year.
Speaker 4: Hey about Kittle, I mean he's the man. I mean
Speaker 4: he's going to be a problem, which always is a problem.
Speaker 3: So the last time these two teams met, what play
Speaker 3: do you remember?
Speaker 4: Come on the passing fans call against uh? It was
Speaker 4: with Donald Wilson versus Kettle and that was bs by
Speaker 4: the way, right. It was one of those Kansas City
Speaker 4: Chief passing fans calls every time down.
Speaker 2: In the red zone.
Speaker 3: And then they also had the other scramble drill play
Speaker 3: where Kittle was running free down the field and flipped
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 5: So yeah, offensive line as a whole, when we're healthy,
Speaker 5: it's at least a pusher.
Speaker 2: If it's help. It is interesting though.
Speaker 3: You got a ten time Pro bowler at left tackle
Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers, Trent Williams, and eight time
Speaker 3: Pro bowler of healthy Tyron Smith for the Cowboys, to
Speaker 3: premier players at that position in this league for the
Speaker 3: last decade, and the.
Speaker 5: Aaron Banks is their left guard Spencer Buford, and the
Speaker 5: right guard.
Speaker 3: Aaron Banks was a second round pick two years ago,
Speaker 3: Spencer Burford from utsa fourth round pick last year. And
Speaker 3: the center Jake Brindle I've talked about out a UCLA
Speaker 3: and Plano East High School. And then the right tackle,
Speaker 3: Colton mckivotz, was a fifth rounder. And you look at
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, you got a first rounder if healthy at
Speaker 3: left tackle, a first rounder at left guard, a Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl center last year, and Tyler ba there a future
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer at right guard, and Terrence Steele who
Speaker 3: just got his second contract at right tack.
Speaker 2: So we've got three Pro bowlers on our side.
Speaker 5: And it would have been for Steel didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3: Now, having said that, what has happened for San Francisco
Speaker 3: is they have been healthy on their offensive right and
Speaker 3: that if you go across the board in this league,
Speaker 3: teams that have healthy offensive lines and they don't have
Speaker 3: to be future Pro Bowl players or anything like that,
Speaker 3: but if they are healthy, those teams have a big advantage.
Speaker 2: Over one one game we have when we three starters.
Speaker 3: Unable to play against.
Speaker 5: So kind of and it kind of came up in
Speaker 5: the press conference a little bit, but we talk about
Speaker 5: what the Cowboys have to worry about with San Francisco,
Speaker 5: But I guarantee you they're talking about what they got
Speaker 5: to worry about with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: And when we come back, when we come back, how
Speaker 3: about these defensive fronts on these two teams.
Speaker 2: Well we stayed on track. Good. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: All right, we are breaking down these two teams. We've
Speaker 3: looked at the offense. Now we're going to look at
Speaker 3: the defense, which I'm sure will lead us to talking
Speaker 3: about the Cowboys versus the forty nine Ers in the
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one playoff game, somehow, some way, how, Micky
Speaker 3: will tell the story about Larry Cole.
Speaker 2: Rather than eighty one. I'd rather talk about seventy one
Speaker 2: than they were.
Speaker 3: Nicky will tell the story about Larry Cole rolling around
Speaker 3: on the sideline and Roger Staubach came back with two
Speaker 3: touchdown passes in the final two minutes of the game
Speaker 3: to win the game thirty.
Speaker 2: To twenty million nuts bags. You're not going down there cast.
Speaker 5: Your formersive back coach his head coaching job.
Speaker 3: Mike Noland, Dad Dick.
Speaker 5: Nolan lost these two playoff games to the Cowboys, and
Speaker 5: then they got rid of them.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, defense upfront, on defense.
Speaker 2: Scary stuff on both sides.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Niners added a guy that we're familiar with
Speaker 3: from Philadelphia. We hate him, Von Hargrave.
Speaker 2: He's so good.
Speaker 3: Hargrave had eleven sacks last year for the Eagles in
Speaker 3: seventeen games played, and this year he had a sack
Speaker 3: against Arizona, he had a sack against the New York Giants,
Speaker 3: and he had a sack against the Pittsburgh Steelers' track.
Speaker 3: Three of them, three of them in four games. That's
Speaker 3: a pretty good pace. For especially for an interior defensive
Speaker 3: lineman lining up alongside him as a former first round
Speaker 3: draft pick, and Eric Armstead. And on the edges you
Speaker 3: got Nick Bosa, who was the second pick in the
Speaker 3: draft in twenty nineteen, who just got paid five years,
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy million dollars.
Speaker 5: And Michael Parson said thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Yes. And on the other side, Cleveland Ferrell, who was
Speaker 3: a bust in Las Vegas, actually started last week for
Speaker 3: San Francisco, made thirty four, had thirty four snaps. And
Speaker 3: also they've got their second round pick from last year,
Speaker 3: Drake Jackson as an edge, and they got some others
Speaker 3: that they run through there in their rotation. So and
Speaker 3: what do the Cowboys have? Cowboys? They got they match
Speaker 3: Hargrave with Osa, okay.
Speaker 5: Match Bosa with Parsons. Now is somebody matching Marcus Laws?
Speaker 3: I don't think Cleveland Ferrell is okay.
Speaker 5: And then Jonathan Hankins and he had Armstead and Armstead.
Speaker 2: Hankins is really playing well this year.
Speaker 3: And it's a rotation obviously for the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So I think we have more depth, don't we.
Speaker 5: Well, Fowler and Armstrong and Sam Williams if you look
Speaker 5: at those three coming in as pass rushers.
Speaker 3: On San Francisco forty nine ers dot Com, they just
Speaker 3: said that, I think we have more depth, don't we.
Speaker 5: It's debatable, right, Gallamore is playing well, playing well, that's
Speaker 5: very true, you know, and we'll see what happens with
Speaker 5: Mazy as well.
Speaker 3: Go for but both teams have invested in their defensive
Speaker 3: front and you and we include the linebackers. And if
Speaker 3: you're going to include the linebackers in there, which we will.
Speaker 3: You got Fred Warner, who's one of the best, another
Speaker 3: guy who's gotten paid five years ninety five, and Drake
Speaker 3: Greenlaw is their other starting.
Speaker 4: Line green Law scares me. That guy scares me. He's
Speaker 4: one of those guys that just a raw athlete. He
Speaker 4: has no off switch at all. He kind of reminds
Speaker 4: me of Sam Williams a little bit. Yes, they played
Speaker 4: different positions, but he is extremely physical and it's hard
Speaker 4: to get him off the field.
Speaker 3: He had one hundred and twenty seven tackles last year
Speaker 3: and Warner had one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 2: So now he's all over. He's all over. He scares me.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of walk up on.
Speaker 3: Him and he got field, he got a two year,
Speaker 3: sixteen million dollar deal.
Speaker 5: Okay, so this year green Law thirty two tackles won
Speaker 5: for a loss, no sacks, one pass defense.
Speaker 3: Okay, twelve forty so secondary.
Speaker 2: Tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic. Well,
Speaker 2: let's go.
Speaker 3: Secondary. Servarius Ward in de leonore your corners for San Francisco,
Speaker 3: and Isaiah Oliver in the slot, and your safeties. A
Speaker 3: guy they picked up in the fifth round who made
Speaker 3: the All Pro team, tolenoah Hufunga and Tayshaun Gibson veteran
Speaker 3: player out of Dallas Kimball High School in Wyoming who
Speaker 3: is now thirty three years he really starting strong, say wow, yep.
Speaker 5: I started to remember when he first came into the league.
Speaker 2: So a guy like Telenoah, whu funk that guy is?
Speaker 4: When you miss someone like that in the draft and
Speaker 4: he falls to the fifth round, then there was something
Speaker 4: that they didn't see that he always possessed.
Speaker 5: Sort of like Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 4: Well, they see that the physical wasn't as impressive for
Speaker 4: them to where they wanted to take him higher. But
Speaker 4: obviously he's got something up here right that made the difference, yep.
Speaker 4: And why he's making plays now with his physical ability.
Speaker 4: You put the mental with the physical on some players,
Speaker 4: it elevates it.
Speaker 2: But you can't see that when you're doing a drills
Speaker 2: with the ball and.
Speaker 3: The college get the college game, which wasn't different.
Speaker 6: Wilson was a sixth round pick and.
Speaker 3: Then Donovan Wilson was a sixth round the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Malie Hooker was a first round pick. But
Speaker 3: what curse was what seventh round? I mean safety? The
Speaker 3: other thing is a lot of teams don't value safeties
Speaker 3: like they do corners and.
Speaker 4: Uh, and so it's easy to It's easy to see
Speaker 4: a cornerback he's man to man, he's on that person.
Speaker 4: If he does well with that person like you make tackles,
Speaker 4: then it's easy to quantify.
Speaker 2: But if you have a guy, like you said, the
Speaker 2: safety position.
Speaker 4: He can make decisions on the pro in the pros
Speaker 4: uh and elevate himself mentally faster than he could and
Speaker 4: elevates exactly.
Speaker 5: So I up right in this game, I think Marquise
Speaker 5: Bell is going to be very important to what this
Speaker 5: defense does because if they want to play that deal
Speaker 5: with just Vander Asher on the field and he's the linebacker,
Speaker 5: somebody's got to be in charge of debo.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing with check is on the field
Speaker 3: so much, right, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, they might have to keep look at him as.
Speaker 3: A second tight end, right, and so that may keep
Speaker 3: your personnel different than a nickel package.
Speaker 5: But then there might be Thomas out there to take
Speaker 5: care of the tight end. But then the linebacker's got
Speaker 5: to you know, who's dealing with McCaffrey, because somebody's got
Speaker 5: to cover him as a wide receiver, not just the running.
Speaker 4: And it's not just the physical out here. He needs
Speaker 4: to know what he's doing, right, And they're going to
Speaker 4: try and cross him up big time because he's young.
Speaker 4: He's just they can see how confused heat Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas, Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4: You got two young guys out there, two big physical guys.
Speaker 4: They're going to try and take advantage of their aggressiveness.
Speaker 4: And and now once you get them off off off kilter,
Speaker 4: then you got problems for the rest of the game.
Speaker 4: But if they come in they're making plays and if
Speaker 4: if Quinn can get them home then or what they
Speaker 4: have to do and keep it simple for them. It's
Speaker 4: not just going to be a physical game. It's going
Speaker 4: to be a mental game as well, because.
Speaker 5: If you think about in the opener, everybody was worried
Speaker 5: about the Giants tight end Waller, right, and remember they lined
Speaker 5: up Janya Thomas.
Speaker 2: Basically, yes and yeah, but the Giants.
Speaker 5: But the quarterback disappeared too, as he has in most games.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, having to figure out the Giants philosophy versus
Speaker 4: figuring out the nineties philosophy, it's going to be a
Speaker 4: totally different thing, right right.
Speaker 6: How about kickers? Oh yeah, both have rookies, So how
Speaker 6: good is that kicker? For he was the first one drafted,
Speaker 6: third round? He's the third round, third round.
Speaker 3: Jake Moody ninety ninth or ninety you read my writing
Speaker 3: ninety ninth picking the draft, Michigan, Jake Moody.
Speaker 5: So he's nine of nine on field goals, fourteen of
Speaker 5: fourteen on extra points, and his long as fifty seven.
Speaker 5: So he's got a leg and he's got forty one points,
Speaker 5: so he's sixth in scoring. Two Brandon Aubrey, who has
Speaker 5: forty eight points, tied for the lead among kickers with
Speaker 5: Elliott of Philadelphia Jake Elliott, and all he's missed.
Speaker 2: Is one his first extra points first?
Speaker 3: Yeah, nine of sudden change. Wow, there's a sudden change point.
Speaker 2: Let's just look this game razor thin.
Speaker 3: So that we just found the difference in the two teams.
Speaker 5: That was it, the rookie seven point difference. But I
Speaker 5: bet they're a little bit better in the red zone
Speaker 5: than the Cowboys are.
Speaker 2: Off the top of my head, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Will that make the difference?
Speaker 5: Though, Well, in this game, you better not be leaving
Speaker 5: four points on the field when you're in side the
Speaker 5: ten yards.
Speaker 3: So what he's getting at. Don't rely too much on
Speaker 3: that rookie kicker.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can rely on them, but you're gonna
Speaker 5: get further behind because you're not scoring touchdowns.
Speaker 2: You got to stop somebody. You have to stop somebody.
Speaker 5: Team offense inside the twenty. San Francisco's ranked seventh. They've
Speaker 5: scored touchdowns on twelve of eighteen possessions in the red
Speaker 5: zone twelve of eighteen. The Cowboys are seven of nineteen.
Speaker 2: All Right, So we did it.
Speaker 3: Have we reached a conclusion who wins the game? I think, Well,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to wait until tomorrow for you to
Speaker 3: find out who we are picking. It's a big mystery
Speaker 3: until tomorrow. Here on mix shots.
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