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Speaker 3: Welcome into another edition of Girls Talk Boys Talk presented

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Speaker 3: by Jig Saw, the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We are back here in Oxnard, Haley Sutton, and I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited to be joined alongside Christy Scales, your two

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Speaker 3: sideline reporters by the way, for the upcoming all right

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Speaker 3: on that Saturday, Christy, as you covered on the radio,

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Speaker 3: I've got you covered on the television side. But Christy,

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Speaker 3: before we get there, there's so much that we have

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Speaker 3: to talk about, and I want to start with Saturday's

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Speaker 3: big scrimmage. It was obviously a big spectacle for the

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Speaker 3: public to come out and you know, get to see

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys and what they'll look like. In twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three, I was out of town for a wedding,

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Speaker 3: but you were there, so I want to go to

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Speaker 3: you first.

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Speaker 4: What stood out to you about Sat Well, it was.

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Speaker 5: A great crowd, there was a lot of energy. Micah

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Speaker 5: was still destroying every day in the offensive backfield. But

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Speaker 5: what stood out was negative and that was the atrocious

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Speaker 5: field goal kicking. So in the session, Yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: his his job as Tristan Viscayino was released yesterday and

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Speaker 5: Brandon Aubrey has won the open kicking competition for now.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk more about that as we go along.

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Speaker 5: But missing five out of six between the two kickers,

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Speaker 5: that was a real negative. But some of the young

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Speaker 5: guys that still continue to stand out. Jalen Brooks, the

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Speaker 5: rookie receiver, just another outstanding Yeah, I loved it. Y Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just doing well. Mazzie showing off his strength that was

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Speaker 5: the light So Deuce Vawn is obviously the fan favorite

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Speaker 5: So there were a lot of positives. It was just

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Speaker 5: of the negative kicking situation that day.

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Speaker 4: Let's start there.

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Speaker 3: Because it's it's interesting to me this is the second

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Speaker 3: straight year where the Cowboys have had an issue with

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Speaker 3: the kicking, and you've obviously been at this facility several times.

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Speaker 3: Is there something about kicking here at this field that

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Speaker 3: a kicking job here.

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Speaker 5: It is a little more difficult here because we don't

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Speaker 5: always feel it at field level, but it gets breezy

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Speaker 5: and so if your field goals are higher than the

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Speaker 5: wind can play with it. But these missus couldn't really

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Speaker 4: Trying to give a little bit when.

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Speaker 5: Was off the right, up right, and that others weren't

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Speaker 5: really close. And it's really bad when you're getting anks

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Speaker 5: But I think it's just so similar to last year

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Speaker 4: Just a reminder.

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Speaker 5: When we opened training camp last year, the two kickers

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Speaker 5: and was a journeyman and had been with us some

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Speaker 4: But I think what's.

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Speaker 5: Different this year is they want Brandon Aubrey to have

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Speaker 5: as many kicking opportunities as possible, not just in the

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Speaker 5: of fans are thinking, oh, they're going to bring in

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Speaker 5: but seeing extra field goal opportunities and also seeing how

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Speaker 4: I agree. I think it's challenging.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I know it's the nature of the job,

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Speaker 3: to be the start of kicker. And something that I

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Speaker 3: He missed one field goal, was perfect on all his pats,

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure that was music to Jerry jones ears,

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Speaker 5: And it's really the word of Chris Boniol that carries

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Speaker 4: And No.

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Speaker 5: Fossil said that he'd been John Fossil, the Cowboys special

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Speaker 5: probably the midpoint of the USFL season, I believe, he said.

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Speaker 5: But I mean it's an inspiring story, a hometown guy

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Speaker 5: that would be great. But I'd like to share one

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Speaker 5: statistic that I think is super super important because in

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Speaker 5: a league like the NFL, where the talent is pretty even, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Last year, in particular.

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Speaker 5: The margins were razor thin. So last season throughout the NFL,

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Speaker 5: last year it was higher. I was going to say,

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Speaker 5: I would guess thirty twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 5: It was actually fifty two percent, so one score games

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting to how Jerry kind of

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Speaker 3: he kind of said that yesterday you said, you know,

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Speaker 3: excited for him as the soccer the resident soccer player

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Speaker 5: Well, I asked him yesterday, I said, is there an

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Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: It's just you and the ball and the target, and

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Speaker 5: maybe when you're just by yourself kicking off the little

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Speaker 5: Two hundred pound guys flying off the wing and trying

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and as.

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Speaker 3: A little different for sure, But we are excited for

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Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey. Let's wrap up this first block kind of

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Speaker 3: Mike has mentioned over and over and over again that

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Speaker 3: So you mentioned a couple of guys from Saturday scrimmage

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Speaker 4: What have you seen out of him?

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Speaker 3: And you know, kind of how do you see him

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Speaker 5: Oh he will have to play special teams if I'm sure,

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Speaker 5: interesting to see the way that dan Quinn is using him.

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Speaker 5: He's not playing necessarily that traditional linebacker role. They're having

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Speaker 5: him matchup there with the tight ends. And I'd love

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Speaker 5: for you to talk about your trip to Art, Texas

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Speaker 5: and if you haven't seen it yet on dallascowboys dot com,

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Speaker 5: Haley put together a great package of demarve on. It

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Speaker 5: was the day before leaving for camp. It was so

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Speaker 5: when I first saw that we drafted to Marbion. He's

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Speaker 3: So seeing that we were able to get a long

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Speaker 3: I didn't know much about to Marbion except for you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm a small town kid. We can connect over that.

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Speaker 3: So when he came in for Rookie Minnie Camp, I

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Speaker 5: for the that is the goal, that's the average for

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Speaker 5: all the officials.

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Speaker 4: The general side of me wants to say a B.

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Speaker 5: So in the eighties maybe upper eighties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say mid eighties.

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Speaker 5: Oh, mid eighties, you'd be on like double secret probation. Okay,

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Speaker 5: it's in the mid to high nineties, which I know

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Speaker 5: what because you've watched games and there are a few,

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Speaker 5: at least a few what you think are egregious and

446
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Speaker 5: sometimes you know the egregious ones they're pointed out. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's usually about ninety six to ninety eight is a score.

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Speaker 5: And so if you were, if you were in the eighties,

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Speaker 5: that would be grounds for removal. Well, I think only

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Speaker 5: one official is actually not has been related to their

451
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Speaker 5: duties during the season for something like that. But yeah,

452
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Speaker 5: it's actually in the mid to high nineties. So we

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Speaker 5: need to give credit.

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Speaker 3: Work, give them grace, to give them grace in terms

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Speaker 3: of Mike McCarthy now because they know the conversation this

456
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Speaker 3: season has been he's calling the plays, he's converted it

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Speaker 3: to this West Coast style of offense with some of

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Speaker 3: these rule changes. How does that, in your opinion, affect

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy's roll or affect how they're running the office.

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Speaker 5: It shouldn't. It shouldn't at all. No, none at all,

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Speaker 5: not at all. And the other thing is the rules

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Speaker 5: apply evenly for all thirty two teams, so you know

463
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Speaker 5: the same system, similar things that are run around the league.

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Speaker 4: So no, it shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just more like the the defenders again

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Speaker 5: one foot and some of the other rule changes. Let's see,

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Speaker 5: there are things with tie breakers. We know about the

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Speaker 5: Umberts change right with now zero is allowed.

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Speaker 3: Not on this team, though not on this I've had

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Speaker 3: a lot of people ask questions about if de Marvin

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Speaker 3: Overshown is going to get to wear that number zero

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Speaker 3: and keep the agent zero and then Mike yeah, mikeh

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Speaker 3: and Jay Ron were going back and forth about wearing it.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we won't.

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Speaker 3: We won't see launching, we won't see any zeros on

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Speaker 3: this team.

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Speaker 5: The but the it will be interesting to see with

478
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Speaker 5: the fair catch rule, how the Cowboys are going to

479
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Speaker 5: play that because one of the goals of preseason is

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Speaker 5: evaluating the young players, and so the guys who are

481
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Speaker 5: kind of on the margin there, the thing is, uh,

482
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Speaker 5: they're going to have to play special teams, and so

483
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Speaker 5: you want to be able to see if they're able

484
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Speaker 5: to effectively cover kicks, and then of course the other

485
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Speaker 5: team they you know, you want to see them on

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Speaker 5: kick returns. So will there be anybody taking fair care

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Speaker 5: between then twenty five and twenty because you want to

488
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Speaker 5: see coverage?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I remember when that rule first came out, the question

491
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Speaker 3: was how it was going to affect Cavante Turpin. You know,

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Speaker 3: are we going to get to see those electric returns

493
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Speaker 3: that we got to see last year from him? But

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Speaker 3: he's also been a guy that I've been very pleasantly

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Speaker 3: surprised with. So I am not concerned, not one bit

496
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Speaker 3: about Cavante fitting on this team.

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Speaker 5: He has had a very solid camp at receiver. And

498
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Speaker 5: it's not just the jet sweep or it looks like

499
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Speaker 5: it's a He had specific packages last year that he

500
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Speaker 5: was involved in, and we don't get they're not showing

501
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Speaker 5: everything at camp. They're certainly not going to show everything

502
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Speaker 5: in the preseason game. But safe to say it will

503
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Speaker 5: be more expanded opportunities for Cavante Turpin this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I've been very, very very impressed with him.

505
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Speaker 3: We've got a few more minutes here in the second block.

506
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Speaker 3: Let's dive into the offensive line a little bit because

507
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Speaker 3: we still haven't seen Zach Martin. I'm not sure if

508
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Speaker 3: we will at this point in California, we're running out

509
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Speaker 3: of time. But the positives that Mike McCarthy has talked

510
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Speaker 3: about is that, you know, it's given a lot of

511
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Speaker 3: players an opportunity to see time and giving them an

512
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Speaker 3: opportunity to continue to shift around figure out who works

513
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Speaker 3: best there. One of the things Mike did mention yesterday

514
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Speaker 3: is that they're still working on the run blocking. But

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Speaker 3: just from your vantage point this offensive line, what do

516
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Speaker 3: you think we can expect on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you can see the young guys. I you know,

518
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Speaker 5: I would obviously no Terrence Steele is he's still working back.

519
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Speaker 5: Probably no Tyron Smith.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I wouldn't play Tyler be Otdish.

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Speaker 5: So I think we'll see a lot of Matt Farniac

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Speaker 5: and brock Hoffman and then Alec Lindstrom. But you know,

523
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Speaker 5: let's see what Josh Ball does in a preseason game.

524
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Speaker 5: He's the one that's been playing right guard in place

525
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Speaker 5: of Zach Martin first team, you know, and Edoga, who

526
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Speaker 5: was signed in free agency, will likely start at left tackle.

527
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Speaker 5: Awesome Richard has been playing backup guard, so we'll see

528
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Speaker 5: a lot of him, Matt Willetsko, who we hadn't seen

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Speaker 5: a lot of. So these are really golden opportunities for

530
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Speaker 5: these guys, who in particular are you looking forward? Let

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Speaker 5: me ask you first, would you play Tyler Smith in

532
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Speaker 5: the preseason this year?

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Speaker 4: See I am under.

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Speaker 3: My thought process with the preseason is I don't want

535
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Speaker 3: my starters playing the whole game, obviously, because that's ridiculous,

536
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Speaker 3: but I would like to see some, you know, a

537
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Speaker 3: little bit of what we can expect from the roster.

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Speaker 3: So I wouldn't mind seeing Tyler Smith. In fact, I

539
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Speaker 3: would like it at least for a series or two,

540
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Speaker 3: just to kind of get a feel of what to expect,

541
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Speaker 3: and to also have a little bit of support in

542
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Speaker 3: an offensive line that has a lot of moving parts.

543
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Speaker 3: I know it's preseason, but the best way, in my opinion,

544
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Speaker 3: to prepare for that is to be as consistent as possible.

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Speaker 4: So I would like to see Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with Tyrone resting a little bit, I'm okay

547
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Speaker 3: with some of those other change, but I'm mostly looking

548
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Speaker 3: forward to the return of Zach Martin. Hopefully It's been

549
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Speaker 3: kind of disappointing that we haven't seen him out here

550
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: and it feels like there's no emotion. And so I

551
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Speaker 3: think that's my biggest concern going into the season.

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Speaker 5: What it was it seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

553
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Speaker 5: now the way five thousand dollars a day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the way I equated it was every day that

555
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Speaker 3: Zach is not here, he has purchased a very nice

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Speaker 3: luxury car.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that is an insane thing to me to

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Speaker 4: think about.

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Speaker 5: When then, Jerry Jones did speak with media after practice

560
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Speaker 5: yesterday coming off the field and said, you know, basically,

561
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Speaker 5: they're treating it as if you know, it's not here.

562
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Speaker 5: It's as if a player's injured and not here and

563
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Speaker 5: you have to move forward. And so he said publicly

564
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Speaker 5: what you know, you know some of us have been hearing.

565
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Speaker 5: But I'm surprised, frankly, because I remember the first the

566
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Speaker 5: girls boys talk that we did just a few days

567
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Speaker 5: to camp. Said I'm not worried because you know, you'll

568
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Speaker 5: miss you know, maybe four or five days and then

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Speaker 5: be out here and here we are worried, yes, but

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: Great opportunities.

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Speaker 5: Let's see what Josh Ball, you know, does in the

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Speaker 5: game and see if he can put on the field

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Speaker 5: in preseason what we've seen so far on the practice field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agreed.

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Speaker 3: Nothing like an opportunity like this to really kind of

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Speaker 3: solidify your spot. So we'll shake you there for Zach Martin,

578
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Speaker 3: but we'll see what the rest of that offensive line

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Speaker 3: looks like. Let's go ahead and take our second break,

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Speaker 3: but when we come back on Girls Talk, Boys Talk,

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys have.

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Speaker 3: Their first game of the preseason coming up against the

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Speaker 5: Well, at safety, one Yea Thomas and Marquise Spell have

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Speaker 5: but not just how A guy like jan Ye Thomas,

656
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Speaker 5: who second year player, was on practice squad last year

657
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Speaker 5: that they perform on defense, but how they're utilized in

658
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: special teams. So the way to know if the coaches

659
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Speaker 5: like a young guy and if he's has a real

660
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Speaker 5: chance to make the fifty three man roster is how

661
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Speaker 5: they move up the depth chart on special teams, right.

662
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Speaker 5: And so when a guy like Malik Davis running back

663
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Speaker 5: last year, when he's getting reps as the personal protector

664
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Speaker 5: and the like, then that tells you here's a young

665
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Speaker 5: guy that they like and has a chance to maybe,

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Speaker 5: if not the fifty three the practice squad. And then

667
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: of course Mollik ends up being a contributor towards the

668
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: end of the year last year, so that I can't

669
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Speaker 5: wait to see wide receiver and see if the Jalens

670
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: can can carry so many of them weeks and Tolbert,

671
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 5: you know, see if they can carry over to preseason

672
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: action what they put on the field here. So those

673
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 5: are a few that pop into mind. And I know

674
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: we talked earlier about duce Vaughn and Overshown, but who

675
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: are you looking at. I'm excited about the Jalens, and

676
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Speaker 5: I'm excited about all three of them, Tolbert Cropper and

677
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Speaker 5: Jalen Brooks. With Jalen Brooks, I've been very high on him,

678
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Speaker 5: you know, since we drafted him. I had a chance

679
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: to kind of talk to him off to the side

680
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: again at Rookie Minnie Camp, and Jalen Brooks is a

681
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: guy who is not unfamiliar to kind of carving his

682
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: own path in the new environment. He has been played,

683
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: i think at four different colleges throughout his career before

684
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 5: finally getting to South Carolina seventh round draft pick. But

685
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Speaker 5: I actually went back and watched my interview with him

686
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 5: the other day and I didn't notice it at the time,

687
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 5: but he is so on if that makes sense, gets it.

688
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: He understands his strengths, he understands what he brings to

689
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Speaker 5: the table. And I know a lot of players say, oh,

690
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 5: I'm versatile, right, but he knows what he's versatile at,

691
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 5: and you've seen it out here on the field. He's

692
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 5: made some of the best catches, I think, some contested

693
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: catches that have been really impressive.

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Speaker 4: We joked last week, I've.

695
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: Been calling him kind of a baby pony because I

696
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: think he's still kind of coming into his body a

697
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: little bit and just kind of refining those movements, getting

698
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more into what it's like to be

699
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 3: an NFL wide receiver. But I'm really excited for him.

700
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: But I'm also very proud of Jalen Tolbert because he

701
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: was very open and very honest about how last year

702
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: was a struggle for him and why it was a

703
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: struggle for him. He had a hard time connecting with

704
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, he had a hard time learning the playbook

705
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: coming from South Alabama, and so to know that he

706
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: was frustrated and wanted to be better last year, it

707
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: went into the off season, made it a priority to

708
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: get to know Dak, to spend time with him in

709
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: the backyard, to work with some of the other wide

710
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: receivers in the tight ends. This summer, you see all

711
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: of that now here on the practice field. So not

712
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: only am I excited for Jaylen Tolbert, but I'm really

713
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Speaker 3: proud of him as well.

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Speaker 4: And then Jalen.

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Speaker 3: Cropper is a guy who, if I'm honest, I didn't

716
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Speaker 3: really know much about him coming into camp, and after

717
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: day one of practice at camp, you almost had to

718
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: learn more about him because he's a fantastic kid. I

719
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 3: actually chatted with his family yesterday in the hospitality suite

720
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: and their family is mostly forty nine Ers fans. They

721
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Speaker 3: have a couple of Cowboys fans in the family, and

722
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Speaker 3: so they were really excited.

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Speaker 4: But I was talking to his dad and he's like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the only way that we're going to

725
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: root for the Cowboys is for a situation like this.

726
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Speaker 4: So we're really happy. We're really excited for him to

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Speaker 4: be here.

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Speaker 3: But he's also a guy who's very speedy, very shifty,

729
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Speaker 3: and he's made some really.

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Speaker 4: Great catches as well.

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Speaker 3: He's done a lot of the CD where he's tried

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Speaker 3: to grab him one hand in.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait for him to bring one of them down. Yeah,

734
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Speaker 4: he's he has.

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Speaker 5: He has shown flashes here and that's that's what you

736
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 5: have to do as a rookie to you know, from

737
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: Fresno state by the way, so California. So they yeah,

738
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Speaker 5: from northern California. So and it is fun to see

739
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Speaker 5: the families here and to get to visit with them.

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Speaker 5: But yes, all three of those Jalen's you know, mature,

741
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Speaker 5: you know. And and to your point about Jalen Brooks start,

742
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: He's from outside of Charlotte, North Carolina, and began his

743
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 5: college career at Wingate so and then comes to Texas

744
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 5: to play at Tarleton State and then COVID wipes out

745
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 5: the season and then lands at and SEC school at

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Speaker 5: South Carolina. But so mature and well spoken. So yeah,

747
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Speaker 5: you that's the thing. We get to visit with these

748
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Speaker 5: young guys and you really pull for him. And the

749
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Speaker 5: good news is that the one of the positive things

750
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Speaker 5: that came out of COVID, even though it wiped out

751
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: a lot of college seasons, it guys an extra year

752
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: or two to stay in school. And these young guys

753
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: that are coming in really the last three seasons a

754
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 5: little bit older, not necessarily, I mean some are still

755
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 5: twenty one years old, but just just more mature, an

756
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 5: extra year or two in college to refine their skills.

757
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: Those who are in big programs, you know, with expansive

758
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: playbooks and the like. You know, So it's it's not

759
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Speaker 5: so overwhelming as some of these young small school guys

760
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Speaker 5: who have a more catching up to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about Duce Vaughan too. It cracks me

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Speaker 3: up anytime he gets the ball. Because you mentioned he's

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Speaker 3: a fan favorite. The fans here have been calling him

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Speaker 3: the people's choice.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so every time he.

766
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Speaker 3: Gets the ball, there's a specific group and they're always like, god,

767
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: dus Von, you're the people's choice.

768
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Speaker 4: But to me and I love Deuce.

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Speaker 3: I love how the Cowboys will hopefully incorporate him into

770
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: the off fence. But uh, as we've seen with the pads,

771
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Speaker 3: it's not going to be easy for him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think there was a video that went out yesterday

773
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Speaker 3: of him trying to block Demark. I guess Lawrence and

774
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: Tank just kind of like Scoop goodbye.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're deuced, how do you fight through that?

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Speaker 3: How do you stay confident in knowing that you can

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Speaker 3: still contribute on the team.

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Speaker 5: Well, de Marcus Lawrence does that to a lot of people. Yes,

779
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 5: guys who were listed at five to six. Sometimes I

780
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: still don't believe that because it shouldn't be look an

781
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 5: eyed eye with a running back. But yeah, and it

782
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 5: doesn't matter what your your size is, you're still a

783
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 5: human speed bump when you're trying to pick up someone

784
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: rushing off the edge or coming right up the a gap.

785
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Speaker 5: But he just, I'll say what the coaches say, he

786
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: just has to use his leverage. Thing is he's already

787
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: he's hard for everyone to see it. Yeah, but you know,

788
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 5: at the same time, that also works to your advantage.

789
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Speaker 5: You know, what hurts you as a blocker can help

790
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: you because you hear the defenders saying, we we can't

791
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Speaker 5: he's hard to find. We can't see him, you know,

792
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: behind the behind the line. I joke I joked with

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Speaker 5: coach McCarthy yesterday and said, they need to bring back

794
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Speaker 5: the Landry shift, not just to kneel down in the

795
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Speaker 5: victory formation at the end, but when the lineman go

796
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Speaker 5: up and come back down. That's what they did under

797
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Speaker 5: Coach Landry and what it did when the lineman did that,

798
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Speaker 5: that's when Tony Dorsett would move pre snap and so

799
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Speaker 5: it basically was hiding the running backs in the formation

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Speaker 5: from the defense. So I'm not saying that McCarthy said, Oh,

801
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 5: that's a good idea. I'm not saying he's gonna use it.

802
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Speaker 4: But whatever he was, he was just humoring me. But

803
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Speaker 4: wouldn't that be hilarious, you know?

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Speaker 5: And then if you did it, they're like, oh, they're

805
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Speaker 5: gonna run it to Douce and then you just pop

806
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Speaker 5: pop it.

807
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Speaker 4: Over the top at that point.

808
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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, it's it's tough. But the thing is,

809
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Speaker 5: and I did talk with Jeff Blasco, the running backs coach,

810
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: about this because one thing that Mike McCarthy had said

811
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Speaker 5: in one of his early press conferences here at camp

812
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Speaker 5: was some of the changes with his offense, it has

813
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 5: to do with the past protection of the tied ends

814
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 5: and the running backs. So but then he moved on

815
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Speaker 5: to another topic. So I went to coach Blasco and

816
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Speaker 5: I said, this is what he said. Can you explain

817
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: to me and what it means specifically for the running backs,

818
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Speaker 5: And he said, it has to do more with their releases.

819
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Speaker 5: You know, if they once they've blocked, or if no

820
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: one's coming and they released quickly. That's called skippy by

821
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Speaker 5: the way, if you want a new West Coast term.

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Speaker 4: But it has to do more with that.

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Speaker 5: But the main thing is Deuce very studious, very smart,

824
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 5: knows what to do and most importantly, is very willing

825
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Speaker 5: to do it.

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Speaker 4: So that's the.

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Speaker 3: Biggest is that you can tell he has heard this

828
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Speaker 3: his whole he's embracing it and he has a positive attitude.

829
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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, not all running backs want to do the dirty

831
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Speaker 5: work of the blocking and the you know, even even

832
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Speaker 5: when you're running and carrying out your assignment. That's what

833
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: Zeke was was great out doing the dirty work and

834
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: never complaining about it. So if you don't do your

835
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: part exactly how you're supposed to do it, you know,

836
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 5: carry a defender with you, then they're gonna slough off

837
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 5: and you know, maybe intercept to pass or make a

838
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Speaker 5: play on one of your teammates.

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Speaker 3: Well that, Christy is all the time that we have

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Speaker 3: here on Girls Talk, Boys Talk today. But I always

841
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Speaker 3: appreciate your inside. It always goes so fast, it always

842
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: goes so fast, But I love getting to pick your

843
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Speaker 3: brain and just kind of learn from you. So I'm

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Speaker 3: excited for your radio call on thanks Saturday. I'll see

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Speaker 3: on the sideline Saturday afternoon. All right, well, I'll do

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Speaker 3: it for this edition at Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented

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Speaker 3: by Jig Zawi.

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Speaker 5: Will see you guys on Thursday.

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