WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: Puddles Instead of Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>Kabooms.

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<v Speaker 2>If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes

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<v Speaker 2>a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants

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<v Speaker 2>of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He

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<v Speaker 2>treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the

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<v Speaker 2>rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to Clearinghouse of

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<v Speaker 2>hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

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<v Speaker 2>with Ben Mallard starts right now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the air everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mather and Danny G

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<v Speaker 3>Radio a hap be Happy, Be Happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday to you.

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<v Speaker 3>We are hanging out a college football Saturday. Thanksgiving upcoming

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<v Speaker 3>and we got you covered. Danny G is producing this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>He will be with us for the mail Bag on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>but you got just me today on this podcast. We

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<v Speaker 3>have through the fog, zip codes and Pineapple Express, and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll put all of those things together and we are

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<v Speaker 3>going to make the Gabba Ghoul and the Baba Gnoose.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we open up with this so the theater is

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<v Speaker 3>open fun for all ages. Now, you have to understand

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<v Speaker 3>something about the weeknight radio show Overnight Radio. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>so much as a job. It's a form of time travel,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really really kind of cool, really really kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cool. So we sit alone in a little Sherman

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<v Speaker 3>Oaks studio. It's two thirty in the morning, and there

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<v Speaker 3>are no windows in the studio in now we have

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<v Speaker 3>no windows.

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<v Speaker 1>The lights hume along.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a security guard in the building in the courtyard,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere in a galaxy far far away, acting like stephen

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<v Speaker 3>A Smith watching an NBA Finals game, playing solitaire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's if you're lucky, by the way, Okay, if you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>The security guard is acting like stephen A and an

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals game and he's playing solitaire. If you're not lucky,

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<v Speaker 3>he's conducting his own sleep study while working. He's doing

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<v Speaker 3>a sleep study while working. Now, the newsroom at the

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<v Speaker 3>company is a ghost town. It's a ghost ship, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>formally buzzing with life for years and years, but every

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<v Speaker 3>year they keep laying people off and they don't replace them,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's made it kind of depressing. Right, Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>there's a leftover container of some orange chicken and some

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<v Speaker 3>memory of a clip of a stay Awake with Jake

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day, Jake the Great Jake Warner and

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<v Speaker 3>out of the silence.

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<v Speaker 1>In our studio.

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<v Speaker 3>You start barking into these microphones and your voice gets

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<v Speaker 3>shot out of satellites and into transmitters and out into

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<v Speaker 3>the abyss, the great beyond, and you don't know where

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<v Speaker 3>it lands. You don't know who catches it. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the magic of overnight radio. You're speaking to everyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>among the living, and yet no one at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>and that transmitter booming the voice. It might ricochet off

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<v Speaker 3>a commercial truck in Barstow and then bounce into a

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<v Speaker 3>casino surveillance room somewhere outside a Wheeling, West Virginia, at

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<v Speaker 3>a little casino there. I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 3>have a casino in Wheeling, West Virginia. I just brought

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<v Speaker 3>up Wheeling, West Virginia. We used to have a caller

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<v Speaker 3>from Wheeling, West Virginia who was very annoying, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he's around anymore. Radio Rich or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that signal sneaks under a bedroom door and Dayton, Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>at the exact moment someone woke up at three in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning, they make a pit stop, and that's how

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<v Speaker 3>it happens. Radio is discovered the way trains used to

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day be seen through fok. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. You know, radio has discovered the way

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<v Speaker 3>that trains used to be seen through fog. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>how Ed from Dayton, who Ed from Dayton found us.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that the radio happened to be on one

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<v Speaker 3>night and he got up to use the powder room,

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<v Speaker 3>as they say on ht TV in Canada, HGTV in Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>they say the powder room. Now, that is how all

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<v Speaker 3>great romances begin in overnight talk radio. The creeping crud, indigestion, insomnia,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta go, and nobody beats the ways, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>dumb luck, whatever that might be. So this week Ed

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<v Speaker 3>Ed Ed Ed showed up in Los Angeles and he

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<v Speaker 3>was saying in Pasadena, home of the Rose Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>To be exact, now, fly no, he did not. Ed drove.

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<v Speaker 3>He took four days to drive nineteen hundred and twelve

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<v Speaker 3>miles from Dayton, Ohio to Los Angeles. And he got

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<v Speaker 3>to California and he was expecting that California sunshine, palm trees.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he'd get a celebrity siding at Erwan, the overpriced

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<v Speaker 3>trendy grocery store in southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>That's E. R.

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<v Speaker 3>Whon Home of the fifty Dollars Strawberry. Instead, Ed got rain. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>not the serious biblical El Nino rain that we get

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<v Speaker 3>every once in a while in the Golden State. Not

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<v Speaker 3>the type that makes the local TV reporter send the

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<v Speaker 3>camera person down and they stand dangerously close to the

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<v Speaker 3>storm drain and tell you to.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay in your home.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this was the kind of mild rain that makes

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<v Speaker 3>the SoCal basin act like they've entered the perfect storm.

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<v Speaker 3>But really, you just need windshield wipers that work. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all you need. Stay off the one oh one freeway.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't take the one oh one Freeway driving into work.

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<v Speaker 3>I made sure I took the long way. I went

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<v Speaker 3>about twenty miles out of my way because I did

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<v Speaker 3>not want to deal with the water park that is

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<v Speaker 3>the one oh one Freeway. Still, listen, when you're from Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>you expect California to beat California, just like the brochure,

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<v Speaker 3>you want paradise. Instead, Ed got puddles. Puddles and puddles

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<v Speaker 3>and puddles and puddles. Anyway, he called it in the

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<v Speaker 3>show one night, and first time ever I believe Ed's

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<v Speaker 3>called the show and he asked, he said, listen, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in town. I'd love to come by and then stop

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<v Speaker 3>stop by the studio. Now, this is a tricky little dance.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in the old days, as you know, we used

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<v Speaker 3>to do studio business like it was the statue of liberty.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us you're tired, you're poor, your huddled masses yearning

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<v Speaker 3>to breathe free with Overnight Sports Radio. Then a gentleman

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<v Speaker 3>named Mike the Leprechaun jumped onto the scene. And Mike

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<v Speaker 3>the Leprekahn a harmless fellow, as harmless as a sunflower.

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<v Speaker 3>He arrived some twelve hours early, covered in suntanned lotion

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<v Speaker 3>head to toe, and he scared management so much. How

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<v Speaker 3>much he scared them so much that management is convinced

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<v Speaker 3>that we are harboring radio fugitives on the Overnight show.

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<v Speaker 3>So after that, there were several memos sent out. Thanks

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<v Speaker 3>to Mike the Leprechaun, the rules got tightened from the

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<v Speaker 3>corporate overlords of the people that pay my salary. Radio

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<v Speaker 3>executives do not speak harmless. They don't understand. Hey, Mike

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<v Speaker 3>just loves suntan lotion, he loves radio. He's a leprechaun.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave him alone. No, they speak legal liability, they speak

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<v Speaker 3>legal liability. No more pop ins is the message. No

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<v Speaker 3>unexpected mal or militia hello, none of that. But something

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<v Speaker 3>about Ed just felt right. He said he had been

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<v Speaker 3>a big fan for years. And I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if I was a guy like Ed, and I loved radio,

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<v Speaker 3>because I did love radio growing up before I gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>A ring, I loved man, the magic of it, the

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<v Speaker 1>theater of it, the holy.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I were like Ed, and I happen to

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<v Speaker 3>be in town, and I loved the radio show, and

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to see the show. So what I did

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<v Speaker 3>is I said, listened, just email me, we'll figure something out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a radio host way when a radio host says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>email me, we'll figure something out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a way of the host.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying I'm not really sure that I want to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want you to think that I might do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So why don't you just send me an email and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll say, well, maybe I will do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>we played a brief email tag game, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>remembered something that sometimes sometimes in life it is okay

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<v Speaker 3>to say yes. You can actually say yes, and it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't cost me anything. I'm doing the show. I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>there at the studio. There's a slight level of risk.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a total stranger. I don't know Ed. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never met Ed. I don't know anything about Ed from Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>I just know that he likes the show and he's

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<v Speaker 3>a listener. ED might have a giant butcher knife. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to chop me up in little pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. However, I took a risk. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, help this guy out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good mitzvah, a little kind thing and active kindness.

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<v Speaker 3>So we set a time, and I held my breath,

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<v Speaker 3>and sure enough Ed showed up on time, on time,

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<v Speaker 3>a good Midwestern person, good Midwestern manners, not Minnesota nice

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<v Speaker 3>because he's from Ohio. He's from Ohio, not Minnesota. And

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<v Speaker 3>Ed stayed exactly thirty minutes. That's the allotted window. We

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<v Speaker 3>now have only thirty minutes. We asked if he could

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<v Speaker 3>take a photo for the social media, and we made

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<v Speaker 3>sure to get permission. That's also a new rule that

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<v Speaker 3>we added recently. We had one person I will not

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<v Speaker 3>name the woman, who once threatened to contact the state

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<v Speaker 3>department and also sue me because we posted a benign,

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<v Speaker 3>harmless selfie of the woman and she requested that we

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<v Speaker 3>delete it and the whole thing. And so now we

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<v Speaker 3>have to ask people to post photos on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've had a bit of tough luck on studio visits.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not every day that you have someone

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<v Speaker 3>in you take a photo, post it to promote them

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<v Speaker 3>and they want to sue you. It's also not every

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<v Speaker 3>day that someone shows up twelve hours to the radio

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<v Speaker 3>station twelve hours early, covered in suntan lotion. But here

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<v Speaker 3>we are now Ed is not that person. Ed is

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<v Speaker 3>not that person. Ed is not He was there just

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<v Speaker 3>thirty minutes and we talked a little bit briefly about

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<v Speaker 3>what made Ed tick. We talked about from Dayton Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of Famer Dick from Dayton, the Babe Ruth of overnight callers.

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<v Speaker 3>Ed mentioned that he had become a fan he found

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<v Speaker 3>our show when Clay Travis, the man who once hosted

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<v Speaker 3>Mornings on Fox Sports Radio and now sits in one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most significant shares in American broadcasting, the post

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<v Speaker 3>Rush Limbaugh seat, which is a massive seat in broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was Clay Travis's lead in for a few

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<v Speaker 3>years there, and Ed knew that he didn't forget that

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that right there. That is radio magic. The reason,

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<v Speaker 3>as Paul Harvey would say the rest of the story,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason that ed from Dayton, Ohio found the show

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<v Speaker 3>is because of Clay Travis and because.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to go take a peepee. Yeah, he stayed

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<v Speaker 1>because of something else entirely. But he happened to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom. He woke up early and he had

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<v Speaker 1>the radio on and it was our show, and he

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<v Speaker 1>liked what he heard.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has continued to listen since that point in time.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's it. He stayed because of something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you find a show that you like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the same way, I'm the same way. I'm not different

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<v Speaker 3>than you. You find something you like. If you watched

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<v Speaker 3>Benny Versus The Penny, there's a new episode up right now.

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<v Speaker 3>In one of the episodes we've done this week, we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the Stardust Line, which I used to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to as a kid every Sunday night from ten to midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>The Stardust Line. I loved it, absolutely loved it. The

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<v Speaker 3>show really hit something with me and it just worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked.

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<v Speaker 3>So once you find a show that you like, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes part of your routine. It becomes part of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why it's so important not to miss too

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<v Speaker 3>much work when you do these kind of jobs, because

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<v Speaker 3>unlike a podcast where you do one a week, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's easy to do a podcast like I'm doing right here,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very easy. Live radio just cuts a little different,

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<v Speaker 3>just a little harder to do live talk radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have to be there. You have to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to do the dirty work, do.

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<v Speaker 3>The grunt work, and show up day after day, hour

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<v Speaker 3>after hour. And the way I look at it, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a sofa, not sufa stadium, which helmet

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<v Speaker 3>Man calls sofi stadium. It's like a sofa that you

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<v Speaker 3>have a sofa. You might not need that sofa. You

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<v Speaker 3>might go a day or two without using the sofa.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you go all week without using the sofa. However,

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<v Speaker 3>you like the fact that the sofa is there because

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<v Speaker 3>if you need the sofa, you can go on the sofa,

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<v Speaker 3>and every once in a while you just want to

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<v Speaker 3>go back on that sofa. And maybe you love the

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<v Speaker 3>sofa so much you go on there every day of

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<v Speaker 3>the week because that's a very important sofa.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to go on the sofa. Sometimes you don't,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there it was. And there are places you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they feed you, and there are places you go

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<v Speaker 3>because they know you. It's like it becomes part of

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<v Speaker 3>your routine, you know, like a diner becomes part of

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<v Speaker 3>a trucker's map for you boys that are on the

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<v Speaker 3>road all the time. So I told that, listen are

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<v Speaker 3>You're the backbone of the show. Not the callers, not

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<v Speaker 3>the characters, not the podcast reviewers or the social media

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<v Speaker 3>warriors with fake avatars. No, no, no, the silent majority,

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<v Speaker 3>the quiet ones, the ones who never text, the ones

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<v Speaker 3>who never post anything, the ones who listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast while mowing the lawn on a Saturday morning, or

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<v Speaker 3>live overnight while stocking at Kroger Aisle seven or making

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<v Speaker 3>bullets at a factory in Missouri all night. Wink wink,

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<v Speaker 3>nod nod. They rarely call, but they are always there.

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<v Speaker 3>They know every nickname, every catchphrase, all the characters that

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<v Speaker 3>call the show, from Jed who Fled, to Marcel and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone in which Justin and Cincinnati and Robbie the Mariner fan,

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<v Speaker 3>mister nice Guy and no Stredinis.

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<v Speaker 1>And they know everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>They know who won Benny versus the Penny in Week

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<v Speaker 3>seven of the twenty nineteen NFL season. I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know who won Benny versus the Penny in Week seven

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<v Speaker 3>of the twenty nineteen NFL season. They are the reason

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<v Speaker 3>the lights stay on at three in the morning, the

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<v Speaker 3>silent majority, and they're the reason that radio still feels

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit like magic presto.

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<v Speaker 1>Theater of the mind, they call.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and that's not I don't know if that's quite

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<v Speaker 3>right theater in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's theater of connection.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about connection, the theater of stumbling into and

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<v Speaker 3>onto a voice in the night and deciding not to

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<v Speaker 3>turn it off. And radio just again means a little

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<v Speaker 3>more at night.

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<v Speaker 1>It just does.

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<v Speaker 3>You get paid more money during the day and people

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<v Speaker 3>like you more and all that, but it just is

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<v Speaker 3>more important at night.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is.

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<v Speaker 3>It just cuts a little different. And so when Ed

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<v Speaker 3>was ready to leave the studio because we're getting close

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<v Speaker 3>to the thirty minute mark, it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>rainy week, as we said, you know, not hard, just

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<v Speaker 3>enough to make the street lights glow a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I escorted Ed.

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<v Speaker 3>From Dayton out of the building and we took our

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<v Speaker 3>photo walked him out and all that waved goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 3>back into the studio I went. And then the fan

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<v Speaker 3>was spinning, the control board was humming, the buttons were flashing.

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<v Speaker 1>The clock said really late, really late.

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<v Speaker 3>And somewhere out there heading back to Pasadena, a guy

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<v Speaker 3>from Dayton, Ohio now knew what the studio looked like,

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<v Speaker 3>what we look like. The voice in the dark and.

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<v Speaker 1>The other are actually real people. Hear human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know a little little diner in the night

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<v Speaker 3>with the seat belt yourself or seat yourself down.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to wear a seatbelt, you can seat yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. Now, isn't that something that's overnight radio.

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<v Speaker 3>You talk to strangers long enough and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>strangers become friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You never see them, yet they're your friends. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>weird for.

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<v Speaker 3>The midnight travelers. We'll leave the light on for you,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like that hotel. Meanwhile, turning the page on

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<v Speaker 3>that it is a college football Saturday today. You will

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<v Speaker 3>not see Old Miss be playing on television.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Old Miss.

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<v Speaker 3>They play the day after Thanksgiving game against their blood

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<v Speaker 3>rival Old Miss versus Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>So I bring this up.

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<v Speaker 3>There are reports now we're doing this early on a Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty second day of November, that there are reports

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<v Speaker 3>here that came down overnight that said that Lane Kiffin

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<v Speaker 3>has been offered a record tying amount of money to

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<v Speaker 3>leave Miss for SEC rival LSU in a major college

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<v Speaker 3>football story. It's not done yet as we are rolling

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<v Speaker 3>on this podcast, but the coaching carousel going round and

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<v Speaker 3>round and round and round and round. So the question

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<v Speaker 3>for the esteem panel, what is Lane Kiffen going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Report is he hasn't decided yet, but he's been offered

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<v Speaker 3>a record tying amount of money. So what does old

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<v Speaker 3>Miss coach Lane Kiffin do? That is the question. What

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<v Speaker 3>is the answer. So he is going to do what

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<v Speaker 3>Lane Kiffen always does. He's going to pack up the

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<v Speaker 3>suitcase and fire up the Hobo Express and many mana

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<v Speaker 3>many mane may This is not a hard decision. Lane

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<v Speaker 3>Kiffen was born to wonder. He's in a football family.

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<v Speaker 3>Monte Kiffen, the old the late coach, his dad football lifer,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lane Kiffin inherited that it's the family business. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a football carpetbagger, an opportunist, a traveling pigskin salesman. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of these college coaches, if they're any good, they're like

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<v Speaker 3>modern day snake oil hustlers.

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<v Speaker 1>They're snake oil husters.

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<v Speaker 3>They show up, crank up the hype machine, grab the bag,

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<v Speaker 3>and yodel out of town before the paint trials. Seven years,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety million dollars is the report that LSU has offered

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<v Speaker 3>their head coach their next head coach. They hope Lane Kiffin.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep in mind, they're gonna pay Brian Kelly the payout.

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<v Speaker 3>They got a lot of payout money they're paying, and

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<v Speaker 3>now they want this guy ninety million dollars plus twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five million dollars salary cap in nil money every year.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's he gonna do. You don't reject a winning

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<v Speaker 3>lottery ticket. You hop to the lottery office and you say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's cash this thing, and you wave goodbye to Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 3>You say bye bye, We'll be back to see you

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<v Speaker 3>in a little bit. And old miss was never ever

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the final destination. The last supper for

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<v Speaker 3>Lane kifvin Oxford, Mississippi is essentially a BUCkies on the

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<v Speaker 3>coaching road trip map. I think Kiffin will go to

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<v Speaker 3>Baton Rouge or somewhere like it. Would go with Baton Ruge,

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<v Speaker 3>win some games, and in four years from now he'll

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<v Speaker 3>be on the sidelines deciding whether or not he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to leave to go back to USC again or coach

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<v Speaker 3>dot Dallas Gabbars. You see Lane Kiffin if he were

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<v Speaker 3>a stock, high volatility, high volatility, good.

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<v Speaker 1>For day trading only. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing that worries me, and this is I

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<v Speaker 3>have no skin in the game. I'm not an old

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<v Speaker 3>miss fan. I'm not like numb nuts. Brian Finley, fer

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<v Speaker 3>Dog's friend, I'm not like him. He's a huge old

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<v Speaker 3>Miss fan. Family goes there, Family's been there. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm not certainly not an LSU fan. Although

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<v Speaker 3>I've dealt with some people in Baton Rouge. The great

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<v Speaker 3>Dale Brown, the LSU's basketball coach, did some shows for

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<v Speaker 3>Fox Sports Radio, and Chris Landry, the Fox football scout

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<v Speaker 3>at one point lived in Baton Rouge and whatnot. So

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<v Speaker 3>I have no skin in the game on that the

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<v Speaker 3>only thing that does concern me. The internet has been

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<v Speaker 3>buzzing here that the reason LSU is able to come

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<v Speaker 3>up with this kind of money, it is all the

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<v Speaker 3>brain child behind the guy who created raising Canes who's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge fan of LSU football. His money is involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it true? If indeed, if indeed the person behind

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<v Speaker 3>the person behind the raising cans chicken fingers has cut

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<v Speaker 3>a cartoon sized check in order to get Lane Kiffen

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<v Speaker 3>to baton Rouge.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's that money.

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<v Speaker 3>If this goes the way it could, where the canniac

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<v Speaker 3>combo now goes for thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Five dollars, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not financing LSU's defensive line push because I

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<v Speaker 3>want some crinckled cut fries and some Texas toast. No,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how college football works.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>You buy a coach, you buy a roster, and you pray,

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<v Speaker 3>you pray in the transfer portal. That is what this

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<v Speaker 3>is right, that Lane Kifvin's already halfway to baton Rouge

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<v Speaker 3>as we talk here early on this twenty second day

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<v Speaker 3>of November. And this is subject to change based on

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<v Speaker 3>what I know. Lane Kifven just hasn't officially gassed up

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 3>the old U haul. And he's coaching like like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's coaching like it's coaching like he doesn't have a home.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a mentioned vagabond. Most of these big time coaches

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<v Speaker 3>don't have hometowns. They have zip codes with forwarding addresses.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about the zip code. You don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>what zip code you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>You have no ID.

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<v Speaker 3>You just on the move, on the move again, you

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<v Speaker 3>have no idea. You don't put down roots. There's no roots.

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<v Speaker 3>You do not put down roots. Absolutely not no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about? Put down roots? No? Never. Lane

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<v Speaker 1>Kiffin is LSU.

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<v Speaker 3>Bound, baby LSU bound, And don't get too comfortable. That

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<v Speaker 3>won't last. It certainly won't be his last stop, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it will not be his last stop. He'll end up

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. And you know whether that is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years we said, coaching USC or the Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys or whoever. He will be be somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, now, the final part of this, I got

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<v Speaker 3>several emails from people upset that I was not on

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<v Speaker 3>the radio Friday night into Saturday because of the news

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<v Speaker 3>out that the Lakers, who have been purchased by the

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers owner, they whacked a couple of the bus kids,

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<v Speaker 3>not Genie, but a couple of the other bus kids.

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<v Speaker 1>They whacked them.

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<v Speaker 3>And now they brought in some Dodger executives as consultants.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the stories. Several of our guys in so

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<v Speaker 3>Cow were like, I wondered what your take would be

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<v Speaker 3>on this. So the question is how do the Lakers

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<v Speaker 3>start operating more like the Dodgers?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>More like the Dodgers here, Well, they've decided to bring

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<v Speaker 3>in Dodger executives far Han Zaedi, who was the general

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<v Speaker 3>manager of the Giants, Andrew Friedman, the longtime Dodger executive.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing this to start consulting on the Dodger Way.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to bring the Lakers up to speed like

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers. Zaedi is serving as the new right hand

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<v Speaker 3>man for Mark Walter, his representative in the transition process.

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<v Speaker 3>So digging a little deeper, you got the dog your

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<v Speaker 3>executives with Andrew Friedman far Han z Aedi helping consult

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<v Speaker 3>the Lakers. Is this a good idea or a bad idea?

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<v Speaker 1>So my first thought is what are we doing here? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>This is sports cross pollination gone nuclear. The Dodger Way,

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<v Speaker 3>while it has been so successful, does not apply to

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>the NBA on any level. It's like taking a pineapple expert,

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<v Speaker 3>someone who has studied the pineapple and knows the point

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<v Speaker 3>to pick the pineapple off the tree because it's so

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<v Speaker 3>juicy and it's so wonderful. It's a real pineapple expert.

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<v Speaker 3>And you take that person and you say, hey, can

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>you go run the grape division? Well, no, I'm the

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 3>pineapple person. I'm not the grape person. But we want

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 3>you to run the grape division. But I know, but

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I've spent my life becoming a pineapple expert. I don't

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 3>know anything about Well, it doesn't matter. We want you

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 3>because you're so good at pineapple, we want.

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<v Speaker 1>You to do grapes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a different sport Lakers to Dodgers, obviously, different system,

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 3>different economy, different clock, all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball is a marathon.

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<v Speaker 3>Basketball, in comparison, plays half about half as many games.

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball is a is a marathon. Basketball is a sprint,

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<v Speaker 3>and the salary cap much different. The draft value minor leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no real minor league in basketball. The G league

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't really count. The roster turnover is not the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing overlaps nothing. It's like taking a carpenter and sticking

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<v Speaker 3>him at Google headquarters and asking him to code.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really really.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, like just Josh and Cincinnati at redoing kitchens, like

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<v Speaker 3>Josh is amazing. I've seen some of these photos just

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<v Speaker 3>Josh post and like that guy's an artisan. Just Josh

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<v Speaker 3>is an artist of redoing kitchenes the guys great. That

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean I want him at Google getting him to code.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that crosses over. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Not say hey, hey, just Josh, here's your mouse and

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<v Speaker 3>a keyboard, big fella go nuts. Well, no, I would

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<v Speaker 3>rather have a toolbox with some hammers and I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to have some saws in it. And I'd like, no, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't. We don't want that. We want you to

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<v Speaker 3>do the code. But I'm not a code person. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the consultants for the sake of consultantc thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's corporate bureaucracy at its peak.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's have a let's have a meeting to schedule

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<v Speaker 3>a meeting about future meetings. Who says, no, it'll hurt

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<v Speaker 3>both teams. The Dodgers are finally, finally in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of this dynasty. It looked like they were going to

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<v Speaker 3>go the wrong direction after they lost in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>and again in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Although both the those teams they lost too cheated.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Dodgers now have turned this into essentially cookie cutter.

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<v Speaker 3>They have the depth, they have the data, they have

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<v Speaker 3>the durability, they have the flexibility of deferred contracts. The Lakers,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't even need the help. It's a rigged deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a rigged operation. If the Lakers ever get too bad,

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA delivers them stars like Door Dash Shaq, Paw Gasol,

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<v Speaker 3>the Luka Doncik gift wrapped trade from the Mavericks for

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<v Speaker 3>some broken glass.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that, all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>The league has been a concierge, a bell hop like

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<v Speaker 3>Joey the bellman for the Lakers for forty years. And

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<v Speaker 3>if this new owner, Mark Walter, who's the Dodger guy,

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<v Speaker 3>if he wants to feel smart by calling in the

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<v Speaker 3>Dodger Way, congratulations, you just created sports bureacra. See jazz.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no rhythm. There's no reason, there's no rhyme or reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't get cross sports expertise. It doesn't happen. The

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado Rockies are trying to do it. They hired a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that was a baseball guy who became a football

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<v Speaker 3>guy and now is a baseball guy by again, baseball

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<v Speaker 3>guy again, It's like, what are you doing? So is

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<v Speaker 3>this a good idea? Hell to the no, Hell to

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<v Speaker 3>the no. It's specialization malpractice. And that's the thing there,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no one size fits all in sports. You dilute

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers, well, who cares Andrew Freeman even consulting? This

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<v Speaker 3>is the time you turn the players over and Andrew Freeman.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year he did not have this, and he still

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<v Speaker 3>added some really terrible contracts, including for the year. It

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<v Speaker 3>turned out long term not to be a problem. Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Conforto and the single worst Dodger closer they've ever had,

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<v Speaker 3>was a big addition the Dodgers made last season in

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<v Speaker 3>the offseason. But this is the time you fix your

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<v Speaker 3>roster and all that stuff. Also, I checked the NBA bylaws.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe you are allowed to defer the amount

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<v Speaker 3>of money the Dodgers deferred for Otani and all of

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<v Speaker 3>these other big additions they've made recently, So that would

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<v Speaker 3>be a problem. You can't take that to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>So congratulations though, to the new Lakers owner there. Who's

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers owner? You just stepped on two rakes at once. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>So you dilute the Dodgers a little bit, and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't really fix the Lakers, who again don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>be fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get out on that.

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<v Speaker 3>On that note, have a wonderful rest of your Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>here and the mail bag tomorrow. Danny g should be

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<v Speaker 3>with me on the mail bag and we'll answer your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You can email the.

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<v Speaker 3>Mail bag at Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com and keep it

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<v Speaker 3>a little open ended, whether it gets in the mail

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<v Speaker 3>bag tomorrow or or the following week, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>will be our last November show.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many days are in November, but a

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<v Speaker 3>week from tomorrow it'll be November thirtieth, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's accurate. I believe that would be accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the calendar in front of me anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a great college football Saturday at USC and

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old school. I'm old school.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll check that out and some of the other nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to you next time later, skater my Folacia