Speaker 1: I mean, this is Game seven of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: Everybody got pressure. Everybody want to win, but all the
Speaker 2: pressure of this game is on. Okay, see you You've.
Speaker 1: Had the press record all year and it all comes
Speaker 1: down to one game. What's up everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. We got beat
Speaker 2: back in the building. What's up my daughter?
Speaker 1: What's havening? What's up my guy? What's going on?
Speaker 2: I got ahead of myself. Welcome back to the Draymond
Speaker 2: Green Show with Baron Davis. I got excited. We got
Speaker 2: bead back in the building.
Speaker 1: Now God in the building. Yeah, all around the world.
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Chilling, bros? Just chilling? You know, uh, the best two
Speaker 1: words and sports.
Speaker 2: But we'll get into that, man, we would definitely get
Speaker 2: into that. Before we get into that. What was the
Speaker 2: coldest moment from Game six for you?
Speaker 1: Pat? The dunk? The Pascal dunk?
Speaker 3: That was sick or halla burn with a look Pascal,
Speaker 3: I don't know who he dunked on.
Speaker 1: Jaylen Williams. Yikes, he dunked on himself. Hey, he almost
Speaker 1: broke him down. That was that was That was it.
Speaker 1: That was a bad Branker j duncan bosse back from
Speaker 1: that Game seven.
Speaker 3: God, maybe he can't. He can't keep falling like that.
Speaker 3: That's the second time, you know, felt like that.
Speaker 1: I love that he could try to go to the
Speaker 1: rim and get it. Yeah, yeah, no, you gotta respect
Speaker 1: his champions.
Speaker 2: His food work was incredible too. You know what the
Speaker 2: play reminded me of. He just wasn't able to get
Speaker 2: the block.
Speaker 1: But the play actually reminded me of when I ran
Speaker 1: out the Dame and he threw at the north and
Speaker 1: I took.
Speaker 2: That same angle to the rim and I pent no violation.
Speaker 2: You know that was he was playing that series, But
Speaker 2: it reminded me of that play. It looked like the
Speaker 2: same thing. He took the exact route. The ending of
Speaker 2: it just was a little bit.
Speaker 1: Just got punched on. That's what happened. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was a That was just a great play.
Speaker 3: Indiana was rocking rolling Pacers force the game seven incredible fashion.
Speaker 3: What do each team have to take away for they
Speaker 3: chance to win?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What is what are the Pacers feeling now that they
Speaker 3: blew them out? What is Okay c feeling like now
Speaker 3: that they got blown out? And it looked like Oh
Speaker 3: the patients man figured him out.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Pacers, you're going in confident, like, yo,
Speaker 1: we know what we got. I think if you're okac
Speaker 1: you may be sure. Especially again they've never been here.
Speaker 1: It's one thing if you've been there before. But if
Speaker 1: you okay, see, you're going to you a little shaken by.
Speaker 2: And if I'm the Pacers, I'm coming out like, yo,
Speaker 2: I know they're a little shaken by what just happened.
Speaker 1: We got to come out fire, We gotta come out pounce.
Speaker 2: We need one of those Pascal siaka fourteen point first quarters,
Speaker 2: like we need Halle to come out firing, like we
Speaker 2: gotta come out and pounce. If you the Pacers now,
Speaker 2: And saying all of that, as much as that could
Speaker 2: be the case, game seven, all that other stuff go
Speaker 2: out the window, and right it goes out the window
Speaker 2: from a standpoint of like, they beat us here, we
Speaker 2: beat them there, y'all both tied at three to three.
Speaker 2: The record go out the window. This is a one
Speaker 2: game series. What you could face, though, is game seven. Guys,
Speaker 2: get a little tight. I've seen it, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I played Houston, saw them miss twenty seven
Speaker 2: threes in a row. They didn't miss twenty seven threes
Speaker 2: in a row. Like, our defense was great and our
Speaker 2: game plan was working. Some of them threes was open,
Speaker 2: but they had tightened up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And we knew they was gonna tighten up, and we
Speaker 2: you know, we planned on them tighten up. We couldn't
Speaker 2: foresee them missing twenty seven threes in a row, but
Speaker 2: we knew that they was gonna tighten up. And so
Speaker 2: going into this game, I think all the pressure. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is Game seven of the NBA Finals. Everybody got pressure.
Speaker 2: Everybody want to win, but all the pressure this game
Speaker 2: is on. OKC, You've had the best record all year
Speaker 2: and it all comes down to one game, and what
Speaker 2: can you do to win this one game? But y'all
Speaker 2: supposed to win the game, you see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like Indiana not supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Acacha against the team that won sixty eight games, was
Speaker 1: a number one team. They not supposed to win.
Speaker 2: But the problem with going in Game seven is the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers was down three to one and not supposed
Speaker 2: to win, facing the team that won sixty to seventy
Speaker 2: three games, and it's a coin flip. All it takes
Speaker 2: is one Kyrie Irving shot to flip the game. One
Speaker 2: Lebron James chase down block, which still hunt me to
Speaker 2: this change old game. And so that's what OKAC is
Speaker 2: up against. It's like, all it takes is a couple
Speaker 2: of plays to change this whole thing.
Speaker 1: But they are supposed to win, so pressure is all
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 2: And okay, see, I mean Indiana coming out with a
Speaker 2: free swing, and they coming out playing loose, like we
Speaker 2: ain't got none to lose. We were never supposed to
Speaker 2: be here in the first place. We ain't got none
Speaker 2: to lose this game seven, let's go out swinging. And
Speaker 2: so I think this is like I want to seek
Speaker 2: because I'll tell you this, b D. If OKC don't
Speaker 2: win this championship Sunday, they may never win the championship,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: So look, I was having a conversation and I want
Speaker 3: to say his name, but a good buddy team exact.
Speaker 3: He was like, if okay, see don't win this, they'll
Speaker 3: get one over the next three years.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that.
Speaker 3: At the rate the league is going like it's a
Speaker 3: new champion, it's gonna be a new champion every year
Speaker 3: for the last what five seven years?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, Harris. Why I think they get
Speaker 2: in a tough position if they don't win the championship.
Speaker 2: And because when you get the opportunity to win a championship,
Speaker 2: if you win it, you get yourself the opportunity to
Speaker 2: win more.
Speaker 1: But if you lose it, now you start tweaking stuff
Speaker 1: to like, ah, we need to do this, we need
Speaker 1: to do that, and those tweaks could put you further
Speaker 1: away from where you were. And now let's talk the money.
Speaker 1: The money shape about the sign for a year, Jay
Speaker 1: dub about to get paid. He ain't gonna be on
Speaker 1: no rookie contract, no more. About to get paid. He
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be on no rookie contract no more. So.
Speaker 1: The way the CBA works, just off sheer numbers. You
Speaker 1: lose the likes of the lou Dorts, You lose the
Speaker 1: likes of the Alice Caruso's, you lose the likes of
Speaker 1: the Isaiah Hardenstein's, because right now you can have those
Speaker 1: guys making the money they make because you got two
Speaker 1: guys on rookie contracts that's yet to one of two
Speaker 1: of your top three players. It's the same thing that
Speaker 1: happened with us in Golden State.
Speaker 2: Steph signed for eleven million a year because he's coming
Speaker 2: out the ankle injuries.
Speaker 1: Allows us to pay Andre Gudala and bo Getting and
Speaker 1: d Lee.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, me and me and Clay on rookie deals making
Speaker 2: three million dollars, I'm making eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's fine. That's how
Speaker 1: you feel your team. And guess what, that's how you
Speaker 1: feel your team.
Speaker 2: We want in that window, which then extended it because
Speaker 2: we want in that window. And so yeah, I think
Speaker 2: I think this is their change.
Speaker 3: And the twigs were not major, they were minor to
Speaker 3: upgrade and sustain the run, I got it. Okay, See,
Speaker 3: I say the same thing. You have so much talent
Speaker 3: over there, and you're gonna run out of money, right
Speaker 3: because you have to pay your top three dogs. How
Speaker 3: do you suspect like and if they obviously Shay is dominant.
Speaker 1: We see what j Dove is doing.
Speaker 3: You know, the other one was Okay, how dominant is checked?
Speaker 3: And how much of a unicorn is checked? Gonna be
Speaker 3: to be that third person taking up the you know,
Speaker 3: the the third lion share of that capital to make
Speaker 3: it hard to fill out the pieces that you need
Speaker 3: that are ultimate complementaries.
Speaker 1: Stars. I would say, I called all these young dudes
Speaker 1: stars that round out your team. Right, So how do
Speaker 1: you how do you if you don't land, how do
Speaker 1: you move forward?
Speaker 2: You start looking at you start looking at those pieces like, ah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't quite good enough. Tax bill, start to creep up,
Speaker 2: oh man, and when there we got a tax bill,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And and then you also,
Speaker 2: here's another part of it, though, BD. You also didn't
Speaker 2: get the likes of the media questioning can y'all three
Speaker 2: do it together? You get the likes of the media
Speaker 2: saying they need to get a ball to j Doug Moore.
Speaker 2: You get the likes of the media like Mark Dado
Speaker 2: was the coach that can get them there, but he
Speaker 2: ain't the coach to get them over the hunk.
Speaker 3: Now you're fighting all of that stuff. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You gotta fight narratives. You gotta fight those narratives.
Speaker 3: And they've been they've been a great team, right. I
Speaker 3: know we talked about them earlier in the year about man,
Speaker 3: we ain't never seen nothing like that. It's kind of
Speaker 3: didn't feel right, But that's how they operate, right. They
Speaker 3: still doing the interviews together, they still doing the post game.
Speaker 3: They are a unified team. So when you start tweaking
Speaker 3: that camaraderie and you start tweaking them pieces, some of
Speaker 3: those are emotional pieces, right, some of those are needs superstars,
Speaker 3: needs certain people. And then look at certain people on
Speaker 3: the bench, right, Like there's connective tissue that maybe a
Speaker 3: GM may not see that thinks that a better player
Speaker 3: is an upgrade from someone that's probably equally as talented,
Speaker 3: but is willing to sit. Right, So that's fine.
Speaker 1: It's do or die for. What you're saying is it's
Speaker 1: do or die for.
Speaker 2: Okay, See, their best chance is right now, think about Boston,
Speaker 2: d d Boston, you had a chance to win a championship.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out.
Speaker 2: They got they they got rid of Marcus Smart, right,
Speaker 2: they kind of had to win the white waves, the
Speaker 2: white flag, like it ain't working. We gotta keep our
Speaker 2: two guys, but we ain't about to win a championship.
Speaker 1: And then what happens.
Speaker 2: Milwaukee trades for Dame Lillard, send Drew Holliday to Portland.
Speaker 2: If you remember Boston, they have a point guard going
Speaker 2: into the season, I mean going you know, in that offseason.
Speaker 2: And but they trade Drew Holiday to a place that
Speaker 2: he don't want to be. That's just trying to get picks,
Speaker 2: and boom, they fall into Drew Holliday and they rejuvenated them.
Speaker 2: They retweet and and and and then they get for
Speaker 2: thinkers and they work out right, and so, but they
Speaker 2: had kind of they knew like, oh, we ain't do it,
Speaker 2: that's it, and then they kind of lucked up into
Speaker 2: this situation.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, now we can you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where okay, see at like they gotta
Speaker 1: win it right now. If not, they gotta win it
Speaker 1: right next year.
Speaker 3: Wait, because also check this out. People are healthy. Yes,
Speaker 3: people are healthy. It's a different story. It's a way
Speaker 3: different story. People are healthy. You know, everybody got a
Speaker 3: fresh start, and you don't know who's been putting that
Speaker 3: work in. That's gonna take somebody.
Speaker 1: Over the hump. Let's take it a stuff further. Bro
Speaker 1: check this.
Speaker 2: They won sixty eight games this year, Right, they weren't
Speaker 2: the unbeatable team in the league. Right, team's gonna start
Speaker 2: building the beach y'all next year, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. So even if they don't win, yeah,
Speaker 1: team's gonna be building to beat them because they were
Speaker 1: so dominant during the regular season.
Speaker 3: Now what are you yeah, so what are you chasing now?
Speaker 3: Because you can't go into the regular season. I used
Speaker 3: to say that about Milwaukee, man, people uh when Milwaukee
Speaker 3: was always in first place beating the shit out of people.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, Milwaukee is not gonna win the
Speaker 3: title because they don't are never in any close games.
Speaker 3: I said, in order for Milwaukee to win the championship,
Speaker 3: they gotta be in four to fifth place, so they struggle.
Speaker 3: They need to know what struggle look like and then
Speaker 3: lo and behold one fourth fifth seed. They win, they
Speaker 3: win the NBA Finals. It's gonna be hard for okay,
Speaker 3: see because now what what you ain't? What are you
Speaker 3: chasing the record? Are now you fighting and fighting for
Speaker 3: first place? Because you know, I need home court advantage.
Speaker 3: I need home court advantage. So the whole season is
Speaker 3: gonna be different than it was this year because every
Speaker 3: team is going to get better. Every team is gonna
Speaker 3: get better for you and other people want that number
Speaker 3: one spot. The Warriors wanted. Memphis think they deserve it,
Speaker 3: Denver want it back. Now you got people like they
Speaker 3: know the value of home court advantage, Houston, they gonna
Speaker 3: be back.
Speaker 1: Everybody gunning. Everybody is gunning for the Lakers. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe yeh Clippers. People know that this playoffs has proven
Speaker 1: that home court advantage is key and clutch. And in
Speaker 1: order to be a championship team, which was both of
Speaker 1: the teams. Ah, you gotta be able to win on
Speaker 1: the road, but you gotta be at that home. Gotta
Speaker 1: be a we not losing at home. I agree, I agree,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard for him. Indiana on othern
Speaker 1: what do you think about them?
Speaker 2: I think they I think they free rolling like they
Speaker 2: playing with they playing with house money. They was never
Speaker 2: supposed to be here, like and they coming out right.
Speaker 2: If I'm Indiana, I'm coming out, I'm playing so loose
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna tell you this. If I'm Indiana, I'm
Speaker 2: coming out, I'm doing all I can to take J
Speaker 2: Dubb out the game. Because J Dub I think if
Speaker 2: they can take him out the game, he the key
Speaker 2: to that team. Shay, don't do what he do and
Speaker 2: you take the second option away. That's what you have
Speaker 2: to do in order to win a championship. Did you
Speaker 2: see Scotty's quote or Scotty when he was talking about
Speaker 2: J Dub and the comparison, So Scotty made a comparison.
Speaker 2: Scotty said, he is pretty special. I'm enjoying watching him.
Speaker 2: I see a lot of me and him, for sure.
Speaker 2: I see a guy rising to be one of the
Speaker 2: top players in this league. He's a player capable of
Speaker 2: leading that franchise to multiple championships. Him and Shay of
Speaker 2: course does Jay. And so my question is, you know,
Speaker 2: does J Dubb remind you of Scotty? And you know
Speaker 2: Scotty got it thing against Mike? So did Scotty put
Speaker 2: ja dumb name before Shae and slot Shay? Is that
Speaker 2: still Scotty Slotting slight Mic a little bit?
Speaker 1: I mean, damn, you know? Of course? You know what
Speaker 1: I feel like it is like Scottie Pippen. Want people
Speaker 1: to talk about Scottie Pipping like people talk about Mike,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, like, man, we need
Speaker 1: to talk about Scottie Pippen, more about Scottie Pippen. How
Speaker 1: cold Scottie Pippen is without Mike right. We know he
Speaker 1: had Mike that's cool, but Scottie.
Speaker 3: Pipping cold for sure, right, one of the coldest, top fifty,
Speaker 3: top twenty five. When you start thinking about it, gang
Speaker 3: a whole new, uh, Scottie Pippen is.
Speaker 1: The most right, he is the mold. He is the
Speaker 1: mold that you can see in.
Speaker 3: Developing the youth player six A six y nine six'
Speaker 3: ten versatility Shay UP i think is A Scottie. PIPPEN
Speaker 3: i think he's of that, mode, right and he's every you,
Speaker 3: know every generation you get to redefined or or, evolve,
Speaker 3: right somebody who was like a mold of, you, right
Speaker 3: a one of. One but it's, like, man that was
Speaker 3: kind of like my, uh my, sense like that was
Speaker 3: my sense that dude got a black belt fighting like.
Speaker 1: This my, style my black bet belt style is like.
Speaker 3: This that's kind of LIKE J dove With Scottie, Pippen,
Speaker 3: right Little Scottie, pippen More Scottie pippen than anybody.
Speaker 1: Else not a grand, heel you, know not in that.
Speaker 1: Mode it's like when you look at the moment to
Speaker 1: What scotty do WITH.
Speaker 3: J Dow due on the defensive, end how hard he, play,
Speaker 3: right what he can do, offensively where you may get
Speaker 3: him fucked up and think he can't score or can't make.
Speaker 3: Plays like he is the, one like you just said.
Speaker 3: It he is the, one and it's up to him
Speaker 3: to be able to like be be his Old Scottie, Pippen,
Speaker 3: Right Scottie, pippen Was Scottie pippen coming to the game
Speaker 3: right on the board and you playing against the bulls
Speaker 3: or you, know on the little charting on the board
Speaker 3: to coach, Right Michael jordan whenever he write And Scottie,
Speaker 3: pippen we're gonna spend twenty On. Jordan we're gonna spend
Speaker 3: twenty On, pippen, right Because pippin gonna, Disrupt he gonna
Speaker 3: disrupt everything you got. Going and so THAT'S i THINK
Speaker 3: i Think jada needs to be his. Man you need
Speaker 3: to go and Be you need to go build the
Speaker 3: name Like Scottie pippen built the name rocking With, jordan,
Speaker 3: right and then you gotta be your own, mode your
Speaker 3: own one on one BECAUSE i, Mean Scotty pippen one
Speaker 3: of the coldest ever do. It Bro let's let's call.
Speaker 3: It let's call the fact the, fact And jadv to your.
Speaker 3: Point he he is the one that's going to beat
Speaker 3: the lynch, pin, right and the glue and the person
Speaker 3: to get them over the. Hump when you watch The
Speaker 3: bulls and when they beat The, lakers, Right Scottie pippen
Speaker 3: On Magic. JOHNSON i watched that game that disrupted.
Speaker 1: The whole, game. Right when you watch The bulls when
Speaker 1: they played played against H, Utah, Right Scottie pippen making
Speaker 1: big shots, right doing the same. Thing you may only
Speaker 1: see That jordan, highlights but don't forget there's somebody in
Speaker 1: that game up in the entire flowing, again and you
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to. That Scotty PAMPER i. AGREE
Speaker 1: i think Scotty is greatness is not to be. Debated
Speaker 1: but he is kind of like throwing you, know the
Speaker 1: mic thing. Too he doing, that for, sure he doing
Speaker 1: that that he dumps. Down how great he is, though
Speaker 1: because it almost makes you compared To, mike which, like come,
Speaker 1: on we can't like we can't really.
Speaker 3: Sometimes our ego don't let us, articulate and we gotta articulate.
Speaker 1: How how unmatchable that that that that dynamic. Was BUT
Speaker 1: i think also IT'S i think Also BED i Think
Speaker 1: scotty's tail spit has really been since the.
Speaker 2: Documentary you, know his tailspin has really been like that
Speaker 2: documentary came out and he kind of been tail spinning.
Speaker 1: Since SO i try, TO i try, to you, know
Speaker 1: always have some. Compassion and WHEN i take a step
Speaker 1: back AND i look at, IT i may feel a
Speaker 1: way too after the.
Speaker 2: Documentary if it was like, that AND i KNOW i
Speaker 2: had the IMPACT i, had you, know it was suck
Speaker 2: if you, know If steph sat down AND i feel
Speaker 2: LIKE i didn't get the credit THAT i. Deserve you
Speaker 2: know What i'm. Saying, now they're on the flip. Side
Speaker 2: in the, Documentary mike talk About scotty and how you
Speaker 2: know Great scotty.
Speaker 3: Was mike always always he don't never say nothing Without.
Speaker 3: Scotty me And, scott sure And. Scotty but but the
Speaker 3: documentary WAS mj.
Speaker 2: Heavy but IT'S mj like a warrior documentary as much
Speaker 2: impact AS i, Had clay had A warrior's documentary gonna be.
Speaker 2: Heavy Steph curry like that's just what it. Is SO
Speaker 2: i don't, Know, MAN i still be wishing wealth Of. Scotty.
Speaker 1: Man, yeah let's let's let's let's say. This Michael jordan
Speaker 1: is the.
Speaker 3: Son you know What i'm. Saying we wake up as a.
Speaker 3: Hooper you waking up To Michael, jordan you know WHAT i?
Speaker 3: Mean like and and that's, it, Right So scotty you
Speaker 3: just like you a, moon you a son, Too, like,
Speaker 3: Well Michael, jordan you're waking up in. Basketball so the
Speaker 3: documentary gonna be about the most Charismatic mike lars a
Speaker 3: lot of court, back you, know and, like, yeah they Following,
Speaker 3: mike they Following. Mike, man just don't let the. Celebrity
Speaker 3: don't let the celebrity like tell your side of the.
Speaker 3: STORY i, mean that's it because your shit is just,
Speaker 3: compelling and it may be even better because we get
Speaker 3: a broader, perspective we get more people. Involved but that's you,
Speaker 3: know that's just power and, media, media, media and that's
Speaker 3: what you were saying. About, Okay, see like the media
Speaker 3: can can Separate shay And, jada, right yes they. Can
Speaker 3: but it's up to shade it And jade up to
Speaker 3: do What mike And scottie.
Speaker 1: Did you gotta go. Win you gotta do What Stephen
Speaker 1: klay and And dre.
Speaker 3: Did you gotta go do With, Kobe Like kobe And
Speaker 3: shaq had the most most, drama all the, drama all the.
Speaker 1: Time, yes but they, want but they, want but they.
Speaker 3: Won they figured it out and they, say, YO i
Speaker 3: KNOW i Got, shaq And shaq got twenty. Minutes they
Speaker 3: gonna go over reviewer every which way to Guard. Shaq
Speaker 3: ain't gonna go over twenty, minutes every which way to guard.
Speaker 3: Me everybody else canna get two.
Speaker 1: Minutes, yep that's the.
Speaker 3: Fact if, that, yeah if you could get five six
Speaker 3: minutes and somebody scouting and, report are you a you
Speaker 3: a cold piece of?
Speaker 1: Work?
Speaker 2: Absolutely we always on NATIONAL tv because we're a great
Speaker 2: team and we've had the. Success but by no, mistake
Speaker 2: make no mistake about, it we're always on NATIONAL tv
Speaker 2: Because Steph curry is on the. Team and so people be, like,
Speaker 2: yo y'all schedule is, crazy like y'all travel, Crazy and
Speaker 2: WHAT i try to tell people as, well THE nba
Speaker 2: schedule is built off the NATIONAL tv. Game every year
Speaker 2: we have the most NATIONAL tv, games and so our
Speaker 2: schedule is. Crazy you know WHAT i say to, People,
Speaker 2: No Buddy hill and those guys right like they come,
Speaker 2: in they ain't never really been on no team that
Speaker 2: played NATIONAL tv games like that and buddies, like, man
Speaker 2: y'all schedule crazy and the same, buddy it's The Steph
Speaker 2: curry a you. Effect, Brother you're ON tv all the,
Speaker 2: time which in turn makes that schedule a little.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah the luck pleasure of playing With Steph.
Speaker 2: Kurk and so to your, point the camera gonna, Follow,
Speaker 2: mike get in where you fit, in use it to your,
Speaker 2: benefit where you use it to your, benefit ultimately knowing.
Speaker 1: Of, course and that's just the. Course all, right you
Speaker 1: played in the game seven at? All what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts to, uh if you're Okayc, like what is your
Speaker 1: mind set going into a game?
Speaker 3: Seven and then what was your experience before game seven
Speaker 3: against The?
Speaker 1: Calves like what were you going?
Speaker 3: Like what was the what was your energy coming out
Speaker 3: of game six going into game? Seven and then you,
Speaker 3: know what is? That what is being at home on
Speaker 3: a game?
Speaker 1: Seven feel? LIKE i think the only game seven in
Speaker 1: my CAREER.
Speaker 2: I played at? Home what's twenty SIXTY Nba Finals game?
Speaker 2: Seven and What i'll tell you is.
Speaker 1: The home court don't mean anything because if you can
Speaker 1: get the crowd, Involved, Greg but you know how Loud
Speaker 1: oracle was when Kyrier over hit that show it was super, Loud,
Speaker 1: like don't you know how quiet it was after you
Speaker 1: hit that the home? Court don't mean anything because, again
Speaker 1: this is a one game. Series so one, guy this march.
Speaker 1: Madness this is single. Elimination one guy can get hot
Speaker 1: and go, berserk and that's just, that you know What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying SO i don't think game seven mean. Anything so
Speaker 1: to that, point If i'm, Okac i'm coming into this
Speaker 1: game And i'm, like, yo, fellas if they hit, first
Speaker 1: we gotta come.
Speaker 2: Out we gotta come out, swinging but we may get punched.
Speaker 2: First we just gotta stay the, course play our. Game don't,
Speaker 2: panic stay the course no matter who hit. First we
Speaker 2: have to stay the course because if, not it can
Speaker 2: get the better of. Them and, again the emotions is just.
Speaker 2: Different they supposed to. Win so that's that's What I'm
Speaker 2: that's What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying for me going Into game seven against The clip
Speaker 1: against The caves at, Home i'm, like, Yo i've been
Speaker 1: all suspended For game. Five we really had no chance
Speaker 1: at Winning game, Six game, SEVEN i gotta come. OUT
Speaker 1: i gotta go crazy because we gotta. Win like and
Speaker 1: so that was my.
Speaker 2: Mindset that's WHY i came out fire in the WAY i.
Speaker 2: Did then you see a couple go through you're, like, oh,
Speaker 2: man like let's let's. Go and SO i felt LIKE
Speaker 2: i needed to play. Great it's that, desperation, absolutely it's that.
Speaker 3: Desperation being at, home it's like you have a little
Speaker 3: bit more of a desperate ration to be up when
Speaker 3: the clock run, out.
Speaker 1: And then being on the, road you're more like the.
Speaker 1: Hunter so you're just trying to get kills and moments
Speaker 1: where all, right they have, six let's get it to.
Speaker 1: Two you know there, eight let's get it to.
Speaker 3: Four like you're looking at smaller, kills whereas the home
Speaker 3: team is, like, man we got to briand it, like
Speaker 3: think about all the great Game game seven is even
Speaker 3: The lakers Of.
Speaker 1: Celtics When ron was talking about.
Speaker 3: Hitting that shot like, that that game was, like, man
Speaker 3: whoever hit the next book is probably only.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i.
Speaker 3: Know it gets it gets, tight it gets and and
Speaker 3: and and it gets. Tight not because you can't score
Speaker 3: because your your your. Level it looks like the level
Speaker 3: of desperation goes into this superpower of, like, dude whatever
Speaker 3: ENERGY i got left from the whole, Season i'm about
Speaker 3: To i'm about to give it all in this last
Speaker 3: six minutes and everybody is so everybody is really focused
Speaker 3: on getting a. Stop you've never seen something so beautiful in.
Speaker 3: Basketball then In game, seven when both teams going back
Speaker 3: and forth and can, score it's, like that's the, drama,
Speaker 3: right that's the drama because the next bucket could be the,
Speaker 3: bucket like like a three pointer could break your, back,
Speaker 3: right free throws could break your.
Speaker 1: Back so it's, Listen i'm glad and one bucket can change.
Speaker 1: Everything andre make that layup, everything you. Know so my,
Speaker 1: mom that was my mom, said that's How i'm, rolling you.
Speaker 1: Know SO i want to see The pacers come.
Speaker 2: OUT i Think Rick carlile has not showed, everything AND
Speaker 2: i think The pacers win this game By Rick carlile
Speaker 2: coming out and out Coaching Mark. Diagno this is this
Speaker 2: is the biggest game In Mark dagno's coaching. Career this
Speaker 2: is first time playing in the game of this. Magnitude
Speaker 2: Rich carlo coach team to a. Championship AND i, think If.
Speaker 1: I'm Rick, Carlile rick carlile game plan need to be
Speaker 1: so crazy in order for The pacers team to come
Speaker 1: out and. Win AND i think that's their upper. Hand
Speaker 1: Is rick been there AND i Think rick got something
Speaker 1: in his back. Pocket and If I'm, rick here's my game. Plan,
Speaker 1: okay See tom struggled his. CORE i think we all
Speaker 1: can agree on. That every Time Jay dupp come off
Speaker 1: of pick and, Roll i'm all out blitzing.
Speaker 2: It you're not getting, downhill you're not finishing that the,
Speaker 2: rim you're not getting. Comfortable i'm an all out blitz
Speaker 2: so him every time he come off of pick and.
Speaker 2: Roll he also not accustomed to getting, blitzed so gonna
Speaker 2: you can throw something at him for game seven that
Speaker 2: if they don't really have much time to adjust to
Speaker 2: you can throw something at him that he ain't. Seen
Speaker 2: and he got to try to adjust to that and
Speaker 2: the biggest game of his life with all of all the.
Speaker 1: Money on the, Line.
Speaker 2: I'm Guarding shade one on one With Andrew theimhart And
Speaker 2: i'm telling them, hard don't play in front of. Him
Speaker 2: play on the. Side if you play on the side of,
Speaker 2: him he can't get the step back like that to
Speaker 2: create all the. Separation if you sit in front of,
Speaker 2: him he gonna drive you. Down he gonna step, back
Speaker 2: and he gonna create this much space and he's shooting the,
Speaker 2: waddle so we're not. Helping we're not in the gaps
Speaker 2: On shae. Either you are just guarding him one on.
Speaker 2: One if he give you, fifty if he give you,
Speaker 2: forty and you garden him one on. One fine reason,
Speaker 2: Being i'm.
Speaker 1: Staying home on Lou, Dort, no it's saying home On Aaron.
Speaker 2: Wiggins i'm staying at home On Isaiah. Joe i'm staying
Speaker 2: home On Alex caruso BECAUSE i think these, guys if
Speaker 2: they start hitting threes and they at home so they
Speaker 2: could get feeling. Good Jack shaking is thirty five, anyway
Speaker 2: and if you Got jay getting off and you got
Speaker 2: it's too. Much So i'm staying at home on all
Speaker 2: of those. Guys, shake go for. Fifty beat us with your.
Speaker 2: Fifty we not letting these guys get nothing because If
Speaker 2: caruso get, sixteen Lou dort get twelve or, Fourteen wiggins
Speaker 2: get twelve or, fourteen.
Speaker 1: They stand no chance at.
Speaker 2: Winning so my game plan is we're not overreacting to
Speaker 2: stay driving them, Hard you're gonna force them to, drive
Speaker 2: and at the, rim the big need to rotate over
Speaker 2: late and just get a contest at the. Rim oftentimes
Speaker 2: when that big come over and shake it all the
Speaker 2: way to the, rim he fall. Down and Now I'm,
Speaker 2: INDIANA i want my advanced.
Speaker 1: Pass and If I'm Rick, Carlisle i'm telling how they,
Speaker 1: burden which he, does But i'm telling him make it a.
Speaker 1: Point advance the ball To pascal out. Ahead every.
Speaker 2: Time pascal can then get to the. Paint he penetrates
Speaker 2: the defense and get to the. Paint he's the only
Speaker 2: player on their team that can draw a double. Team
Speaker 2: and he even do it in transition where he get
Speaker 2: to the, paint he gets to the middle of the,
Speaker 2: rial get to the middle of laye in front of the, rim.
Speaker 1: And everybody come.
Speaker 2: Down that's WHAT i think they have to do and
Speaker 2: Let pascal create that double team and then kick it
Speaker 2: out and they offense flow from.
Speaker 1: There you know What i'm.
Speaker 2: Saying but you also when they don't come down to double,
Speaker 2: team that's How pascal get the fourteen to sixteen points
Speaker 2: in the first. Quarters you know What i'm. Saying and
Speaker 2: so that's my game plan in a. Nutshell If I'm,
Speaker 2: indian that's What i'm. Doing that's How i'm coming in
Speaker 2: and getting this. Win that's what need to be the
Speaker 2: focus in. Mind that's great.
Speaker 1: Coaching so we'll, see, yeah it's it's and then if you,
Speaker 1: know if you can, okay, see then it's pack the.
Speaker 1: Paint make them get three point.
Speaker 3: Happy don't Let indiana get points in the paint because
Speaker 3: that's kind of how they've been beating. You that's how
Speaker 3: they've been staying in. Games it's how they've been getting
Speaker 3: back in. Games make them three point, happy make them jump.
Speaker 3: Shooters don't LET. Tj McConnell pro, right no more, probing
Speaker 3: no more. Probing i'm staying in the. Lane i'm making
Speaker 3: them kick, out and then as soon AS i close,
Speaker 3: out if they don't shoot the three AND i close,
Speaker 3: Out i'm in mad because you, see they get paralyzed
Speaker 3: if their offense is not in flow and they have
Speaker 3: to play one on one, basketball you start making every
Speaker 3: player a one on one, player but not a play
Speaker 3: not a not an offensive playmaker because they want to
Speaker 3: drawn kick get to the, elbow.
Speaker 1: KICKOUT i don't have. Nothing kickout and they move, Well
Speaker 1: so just stay.
Speaker 3: Tight give them the three contests and then if they,
Speaker 3: don't if they don't shoot the, three one on one
Speaker 3: Because Miles Miles turner just sitting at the three point,
Speaker 3: line AND i gotta live with that. Today i'm not
Speaker 3: have to live with that On game seven on the, road,
Speaker 3: right like you're, saying it's tight, man go go, get,
Speaker 3: go get forty hitting seven.
Speaker 1: Threes we was at. Home we still. Lost, Yeah so.
Speaker 3: Because after a, while like you, know it's it's it's
Speaker 3: a volume thing at that point for. Sure, yeah but
Speaker 3: that was a great tank. Man come, On Rick, carlisle The,
Speaker 3: yoda The, yoda the the Mister. Miyagi, yeah Versus daniel's,
Speaker 3: son and this is the OLDEST nba, coach right versus
Speaker 3: one of the YOUNGEST nba. Coaches and it's gonna be
Speaker 3: a battle of the. Mind so that's great, analysis my bro.
Speaker 3: Analysis the best man. Win so who you taking to
Speaker 3: win AT? Bd all, right this is What i'm. Saying
Speaker 3: If indiana is anywhere down six was six minutes to,
Speaker 3: Go i'm Taking. INDIANA i just think the basketball gods
Speaker 3: may favor. History indiana has been added longer the.
Speaker 1: Story you, know the.
Speaker 3: Underdog this reminds me of the year Go To state
Speaker 3: won the. Championship there's Always, Seattle there's always those underdog.
Speaker 3: Teams that The warriors first, title, right there was these
Speaker 3: underdog type of storylines that not happened in the.
Speaker 1: League so, YEP i mean some of the shots they
Speaker 1: hit this displayoffs does seem like they have destiny on their.
Speaker 1: Side so man like The angels in, OURTFIELD i does
Speaker 1: feel like they have destiny on their. Side so we
Speaker 1: should see move around this league a little. Bit we
Speaker 1: got to.
Speaker 2: Start one of the biggest stories of the. Week bron
Speaker 2: recently said reen culture has hurt the. Game it's basically
Speaker 2: the judge and greatness only about, championships disrespect legends Like
Speaker 2: irison And.
Speaker 1: Barklay do you agree with? THAT i definitely agree with.
Speaker 3: Him you, KNOW i think that you, know our, narrative
Speaker 3: as in our stories have been in the hands of you,
Speaker 3: know media or, reporters and it's like their, opinion, Right
Speaker 3: and not to disrespect you know them in the game
Speaker 3: because they play a big part of the, game but
Speaker 3: the stories should be playing should be told from the players, themselves,
Speaker 3: right the perspective of who they are are and what we.
Speaker 3: Mean and so when you think about ring, culture, it's you,
Speaker 3: know it's, becoming you, know something that's kind of like
Speaker 3: corporatizing or stelling the conversation about really.
Speaker 1: What this game is.
Speaker 3: About it's you, know you as a kid play basketball
Speaker 3: to fit in on a, team, right and develop a
Speaker 3: game and a style that ultimately evolves into you, Know
Speaker 3: Draymond Green hall Of. Fame, Right so your accolades is one,
Speaker 3: thing but it's more so like your, story your, journey,
Speaker 3: right what you, did how you get, there how you overcame,
Speaker 3: right and so as, overachievers, right people who don't necessarily
Speaker 3: understand that can paint whatever picture that they want to
Speaker 3: paint for you in your time in the. League so you,
Speaker 3: know for, ME i think when you just talk about
Speaker 3: dudes who get, rings or you just say, like, oh
Speaker 3: these dudes who these dudes who got rings are the
Speaker 3: only ones capable of running teams and things like, that
Speaker 3: then you really mess up the culture, because as you,
Speaker 3: know not everybody on the team is.
Speaker 1: Qualified and, capable and.
Speaker 3: If they, weren't were not some of, them if they
Speaker 3: were not on that, team, right they are, replaceable and
Speaker 3: then it limits the capacity for new rings and new.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 3: Right we have so many great basketball, players great basketball
Speaker 3: mods in this game that they get.
Speaker 1: Underserved, right. Underappreciated their stories are undertold their highlights are you,
Speaker 1: know undersubscribed to. Right so like that Ring coulture, is
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a disease because depending on who you,
Speaker 1: are you can just jump out there and use your
Speaker 1: your decorations and your, merit you, know as something for
Speaker 1: media or fans to be, like oh this, dude is
Speaker 1: you know what a you.
Speaker 3: Know i'm not saying you're not an, expert because we all,
Speaker 3: experts but like you can paint whatever narrative you, want
Speaker 3: and that's that's WHAT i don't.
Speaker 1: Like, WELL i THINK i think green culture took a
Speaker 1: big turn and came into play in large part due
Speaker 1: to the success of the go to state. WARRIS i.
Speaker 1: Agree WHAT i would say about What bron said is.
Speaker 1: THIS i think.
Speaker 2: Ultimately What bron was saying is WHAT i took away
Speaker 2: from it is you get guys like a Stephen.
Speaker 1: A here's WHAT i took away from it. Verbati to,
Speaker 1: me it felt like Stephen a.
Speaker 2: Is someone who talks a lot of about rings and
Speaker 2: you don't know what it takes to win a ring
Speaker 2: because you've never won a ring and you've never gone through,
Speaker 2: it and you don't understand it because you've never gone
Speaker 2: through it that sometimes when you get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: win and you don't kick that door, down it can change.
Speaker 2: Everything and because you don't know how hard it, is
Speaker 2: because you've never gone through, it then you start using
Speaker 2: it to lessen the greatness of.
Speaker 1: Some of the. Greats and it's having a ring important,
Speaker 1: course like does it add to? Legacy does it step?
Speaker 1: Legacies absolutely not gonna sit here and act like having
Speaker 1: rings or a ring don't. Matter it does, Matter but
Speaker 1: it doesn't Make barkley less great as he. Was it
Speaker 1: doesn't Make Alan irison less great than what they. Were
Speaker 1: AND i think when people use, it they use it
Speaker 1: to kind of dim the, greatness dim the light on.
Speaker 1: Guys and that's WHAT i felt. Like brown was getting
Speaker 1: that like, VERBATO i, think you know Steven a and
Speaker 1: him been having. Anything and to, me as soon AS
Speaker 1: i heard it i watched, IT i was, like that's
Speaker 1: WHAT i came away with. It it felt like he's
Speaker 1: talking directly to the Steven a and those type of.
Speaker 1: Guys and if you've never done, it you don't know
Speaker 1: how hard it, Is so in, turn you don't even
Speaker 1: know how hard it is to try and get to.
Speaker 1: You there are more great players then great players that won, range.
Speaker 3: Yes one, time, right so there are more great players
Speaker 3: who having one range and they're great players that have one,
Speaker 3: ringe and like that's the way we got to look at,
Speaker 3: it is like.
Speaker 1: That's what LIKE i was looking At, magic, right you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i was the little history of the game site
Speaker 1: and that was going.
Speaker 3: Through magic AND i was, like, Man magic have. Five
Speaker 3: that means in an entire, decade, right there are only
Speaker 3: five other, winners But bird had what? Three so that
Speaker 3: leaves two.
Speaker 4: Damn near your, career, right you got you, got you
Speaker 4: gotta shot at being a champion in two of the
Speaker 4: ten years that every ten years you, play.
Speaker 1: That's a F i. Go that's a.
Speaker 2: Wild if they don't run into, us they probably do
Speaker 2: win a championship or.
Speaker 1: At least have a. Change and so.
Speaker 2: When, no sometimes that's just how the cookie. Crumbles but
Speaker 2: that don't mean them guys aren't. Great and that don't
Speaker 2: Mean Chris paul not a. Winner Chris paul is a.
Speaker 2: Winner he just couldn't. Quite it's so many things that
Speaker 2: have to go right for you to win a.
Speaker 1: Champion it's not just like OH i played, good and
Speaker 1: it's not like objective like it's not an, objective it's very.
Speaker 1: Subjective there's so many things that have to fall into
Speaker 1: place for it to, happen and so to just lessen
Speaker 1: someone's greatness because of, IT i think that's. Wrong i'm
Speaker 1: not saying again that having the rings don't. Matter it fucking.
Speaker 2: Matter WHEN i walk in the, ROOM i feel great
Speaker 2: About it's different, images different, course, difference but that does
Speaker 2: not lessen someone else's greatness because all of those things
Speaker 2: then fall in place for them to get the.
Speaker 1: Ring and that's WHAT i took away from. It that's
Speaker 1: WHAT i felt Like brown.
Speaker 3: SAYING i hate when they talk about dudes as they get, older,
Speaker 3: right and as you get, older you, KNOW i didn't
Speaker 3: get that chance to experience, that BUT i think AS
Speaker 3: i got older in my in my, CAREER i would have.
Speaker 1: Want to play for championship. Teams.
Speaker 3: Right BUT i think, also like a big thing about
Speaker 3: the media is that we need to be celebrating these
Speaker 3: dudes on their way, out talking about who they. Were
Speaker 3: and they peaked showing the storyline because, obviously you, Know
Speaker 3: Chris paul today is definitely not The Chris.
Speaker 1: Paul THAT i played, against, Right and that was, like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: lee you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean, like, yo you want to watch you know you
Speaker 3: you tap it all the way in absolutely gotta. Understand
Speaker 3: like and AND i would say this happened in the
Speaker 3: past a. Lone we got to appreciate the evolution and
Speaker 3: it's like a five one. Yea you know it's like
Speaker 3: it's like classic hip, hop, Right like these dudes came
Speaker 3: into the game is as renegade painters, painted they style
Speaker 3: and then on they, exit you, know they became more
Speaker 3: of a you, know more more of like capitalizing their
Speaker 3: masterpiece in different, forms right.
Speaker 1: And more so like what they leave into the.
Speaker 3: Game SO i just don't like that because that should
Speaker 3: be pissing me off because you can talk about oh
Speaker 3: you can like, uh you, know Even Oscar robinson Said
Speaker 3: Jmond green just passed the ball To Steph. Curry like
Speaker 3: what pissed me off about that is, like, bro like
Speaker 3: you gotta watch the body at work on you have
Speaker 3: to watch the body of, work, right, yep shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up right or and and you don't just look
Speaker 3: at towards the end of somebody's career and, say oh
Speaker 3: that is like the way we see. Them, no we
Speaker 3: gotta paint the picture of Like this is what they evolved.
Speaker 3: Into this is the artist they evolved.
Speaker 1: Into this is the. Statue this is why d way
Speaker 1: get a, statue.
Speaker 3: Right, like we gotta like start speaking more and you,
Speaker 3: know and people's like in present day and not just
Speaker 3: making like bold and wild as statements without doing no
Speaker 3: research because then you, KNOW i feel your sentiment, now,
Speaker 3: RIGHT i feel your sentiment now because we gotta start
Speaker 3: highlighting the. Greatness that's all because the media gonna talk
Speaker 3: to say what the fuck they're gonna want to say
Speaker 3: About draymond Or draymond is? This Or Chris paul is?
Speaker 3: That Or lebron is? This or like we gotta do
Speaker 3: A katie is? This we gotta do a better job
Speaker 3: of like speaking on a. Greatness that's the.
Speaker 2: Fact, well one thing is for, certain it's just because
Speaker 2: you were a great basketball. Player don't make you smart
Speaker 2: and it don't make you no. Basketball so you, know
Speaker 2: those two things can be mutually, excused AND i think
Speaker 2: in that case it was very. Much so that's my
Speaker 2: little single, shop that's my little single, shot just because
Speaker 2: you were a great basketball. PLAYER i see this all the.
Speaker 2: TIME i see people say stuff And i'll be like
Speaker 2: somebody gonna listen to that because they're, like, oh that
Speaker 2: person was a great basketball.
Speaker 1: Player they, know, listen a lot of them be dumb.
Speaker 1: Too and that was just a dumb statement in the Show.
Speaker 1: Colors And i'll leave that At i'll leave that.
Speaker 3: At, that you know, so and then to bring in full,
Speaker 3: circle people with rings are the same in the same.
Speaker 3: Categories so you gotta just respect great basketball march In.
Speaker 2: Big, News, DESMOND i want to move on to that,
Speaker 2: too BUT i got some for. YOU i want TO
Speaker 2: i want to go ahead with, that all, Right so
Speaker 2: to your point on as you age in this and
Speaker 2: it's like this in, sports But i'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: where else is prevalent like. This people don't allow athletes
Speaker 2: to age and, appreciate to your, point appreciate what they're.
Speaker 2: Doing they try to make where they are then all
Speaker 2: of what they've.
Speaker 1: Done you know where else that happened?
Speaker 2: At AND i hate it AND i think it actually
Speaker 2: ruins the industry in a major way because you're not
Speaker 2: allowed the. Injury the industry essentially ends up always starting over.
Speaker 1: Because you don't allow the greats the age and like
Speaker 1: appreciate just the age and process of. It want to
Speaker 1: always take it back to where it. Was you, know
Speaker 1: the other industry that's.
Speaker 2: Like that music bingo bingo, bingo there's no there's no
Speaker 2: there's no og game in the rap game because we
Speaker 2: kick all the OG's.
Speaker 1: Off and it's the same thing that's happened in.
Speaker 2: Basketball as media has grown more prevalent in basketball and
Speaker 2: has gotten bigger and, bigger it's the same exact thing
Speaker 2: that happens in basketball and in sports in.
Speaker 1: General but really in basketball on this, side it's, like do.
Speaker 3: You want to influencer taking pictures out of basketball game
Speaker 3: side talking about they got floor seats and you got
Speaker 3: a fucking legends sitting at home that you can tell
Speaker 3: the story. Around BUT i, mean and rap is the
Speaker 3: same way like. People you, know rap is now down
Speaker 3: to like thirty. Seconds if you can have a thirty second,
Speaker 3: hit you know you can make a lot of money
Speaker 3: as a, rapper and that can be in. Zoo one
Speaker 3: hit wonders a seconds of. Fame social media ethics like
Speaker 3: who gives a?
Speaker 1: FUCK i? AGREE i agree social media people are, sitting
Speaker 1: and not all of.
Speaker 3: Them some of them are a lot of lots are
Speaker 3: are very cool and entertaining and have talent and, personalities
Speaker 3: BUT i want to see.
Speaker 1: Legends that's another problem with The All Star. Game put
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 3: Legends man fill up the first three rows with any
Speaker 3: legend who want to come to The All Star game
Speaker 3: and watch the energy be crazy in the. Building watch
Speaker 3: your favorite star who comes in Every All star, weekend
Speaker 3: sits on the.
Speaker 1: Floor watch how that person turns into a. Key that's
Speaker 1: When All Star game was.
Speaker 3: Great that's what it was great when it was a family,
Speaker 3: reunion right when it felt like when it felt like
Speaker 3: a family.
Speaker 1: Union and to your, point the same thing and.
Speaker 3: Rap BUT i think for you, know, rap rap has
Speaker 3: its ebbs and flows and rappers coming, back but there
Speaker 3: is not a great appreciation for. OG's it's JUST i
Speaker 3: don't know what it. Is it's a cultural thing or
Speaker 3: it's a corporate, thing but the stories are getting, lost
Speaker 3: and so talent is getting, underdeveloped, right and so when
Speaker 3: you do actually have someone that's, talent they're getting overexposed
Speaker 3: and by the time they get, there it's, like damn
Speaker 3: they corny and ship are like they still, right and
Speaker 3: so we just kind of like creating More carmen copies
Speaker 3: to like what our essence. Is that's a big part
Speaker 3: of our. Album uh you Know Barto alive from the
Speaker 3: Swap Me coming Song let's get it Bar oatmeal back
Speaker 3: in the. BOOK i got the album. Dumping it's all about.
Speaker 1: That that's. Good i'm gonna send it to, you all,
Speaker 1: Right Big Busman bank gets traded to The Orlando magic
Speaker 1: FOR Kcp Cole, anthony four unprotected first round picks and
Speaker 1: a pick.
Speaker 3: Swap what do you think about The magic? Move and
Speaker 3: how Does bane fit with the Current magic?
Speaker 1: Team, okay potential lineup Sugs, Bane paulo Uh Franz, wagner
Speaker 1: And Carter. Junior, oh.
Speaker 3: Did somebody get fleeced for unprotected first round picks and
Speaker 3: a pics. Walker that's a, lot that's.
Speaker 1: Why so WHEN i saw the, TRADE i was, like,
Speaker 1: man that's a, lot AND i, like, bang that's a.
Speaker 2: Lot and THEN i saw What orlando's general manager. SAID
Speaker 2: i saw quotes, made and it made complete sense to
Speaker 2: me why they would make that.
Speaker 1: Deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah he said something along the lines if you went
Speaker 2: into a lab and created a basketball, player you go
Speaker 2: into the lap and Create Desmond. Bank AND i, said, oh,
Speaker 2: okay that's why he gave up so. Much all, right, Cool,
Speaker 2: well the reality IS i Think Desmond bain has done.
Speaker 2: GREAT i think he's a very good. Player but IF
Speaker 2: i go into lab and create a basketball, Player i'm
Speaker 2: gonna Create Kevin durant Or Lebron, james or like a
Speaker 2: six six dude With Steph curry's jump.
Speaker 1: Shot Desmond bain is six' five with a six four
Speaker 1: wingspan or six two wingspan or something of. That nature
Speaker 1: i'm not going into lab.
Speaker 2: And create with all due Respect To, Desmond bank i'm
Speaker 2: not going to create a basketball player with.
Speaker 1: Short arms so.
Speaker 2: When he, SAID that i was those are the things
Speaker 2: that went in, my, mind, like wait he got. Short
Speaker 2: arms you're gonna go create a basketball player with. SHORT
Speaker 2: arms i don't quite. Understand that AND so i was
Speaker 2: a bit surprised by, the STATEMENT but i understood what
Speaker 2: he was trying to, get At like bane played both
Speaker 2: sides of, The ball.
Speaker 1: But like you gotta find a better way to. Articulate
Speaker 1: that you can't like be like you're going to last
Speaker 1: when you go create, a player you go create a
Speaker 1: player ON two k. Creating size you created like six
Speaker 1: nine sixteen handle, and shoot you're not Creating A. Desmon
Speaker 1: band but it made complete sense to me and why.
Speaker 2: They made, that Move and i'll take it a. STEP
Speaker 2: further i don't know this to. Be factual this is just.
Speaker 2: My guess my guess is they've been looking for a.
Speaker 2: Point guard my guess is they called on Joh and
Speaker 2: memphis somehow, formed it purved the ball back around and
Speaker 2: It was desmond band in.
Speaker 1: The trade four first round picks and an. Unprotected pick swap.
Speaker 1: Is insane so it's obviously a move that says they
Speaker 1: they Believe, in paulo they Believe In, franz bogner and
Speaker 1: we're gonna put someone, around him some shooting that can
Speaker 1: add you Know what, i'm saying that can take some
Speaker 1: pressure off of them nice and he more than just,
Speaker 1: a shooter like he can get into, a bucket, you
Speaker 1: know and so, Yeah him but, That move what the
Speaker 1: move signals to me is that they believe in those
Speaker 1: guys and they want to try to go for it with.
Speaker 1: Those guys and also what that move says to, me
Speaker 1: IS which i, agree with they think the league is
Speaker 1: wide open and right now is to take. YOUR shot
Speaker 1: i just don't know if that's THE shot i would
Speaker 1: have taken with four first round picks unprotected and a.
Speaker 2: Pick swap i'm not sure that's THE shot i would,
Speaker 2: have taken just it seems like. A LOT but i
Speaker 2: do understand where. THEY are i understand what they're what,
Speaker 2: they're doing what they're thinking IS and i respect anybody
Speaker 2: who's willing to go.
Speaker 1: For. It, all right where does the bank trade Leave The.
Speaker 2: MEMPHIS grizzlies i think It leaves memphis sort of in
Speaker 2: the same position that they. Were in Not that desmond
Speaker 2: band is just, easy replaceable but they Still. Got jared
Speaker 2: they still they Still, got jared they Still, Got jah
Speaker 2: they got A Young, zach edy they got a Young,
Speaker 2: jaylen wells they got A.
Speaker 1: YOUNG. G, g jackson they got A Young. Scottie PIPPEN
Speaker 1: so i think it leaves them, LIKE again i always,
Speaker 1: SAY this i don't THINK and i try to tell.
Speaker 1: People this all organizations ain't trying to win championships here.
Speaker 2: They are that's essentially a shred salary cap Move. For
Speaker 2: memphis take all the, picks back stress some. Salary cap
Speaker 2: see what we can do with these. Young guys but if,
Speaker 2: we can't really and it, don't matter we got all
Speaker 2: these picks for. The, future right that's a salary. Cap
Speaker 2: move so where does it? LEAVE them i think it
Speaker 2: should be clear as Day. To jae you gotta understand
Speaker 2: how this. Business work clear is that is that organization
Speaker 2: really trying to win? A CHAMPIONSHIP when i see, THE move, i,
Speaker 2: say no you're worried about other things and you're.
Speaker 1: Pulling away but y'all just pulling back. The taxes y'all.
Speaker 2: Pulling back y'all want to get the tax so you let.
Speaker 2: You know but this has been a thing. With them
Speaker 2: this has been a Thing. With memphis they've been doing
Speaker 2: over and. Over again they had a team where it
Speaker 2: seemed like they had. A chance they Let The, anthony
Speaker 2: melton they Send The anthony melton Away, to philly They
Speaker 2: Let kyle anderson wat right now you, fast forward. It's
Speaker 2: bain so this is a thing. FOR them i think
Speaker 2: they're a team that don't want to get to the
Speaker 2: tax and they make moves based. On that THAT'S why
Speaker 2: i think this. Least Ministers.
Speaker 3: All right you know there's, been, ALSO uh i, would
Speaker 3: say a lot of sayings or a lot of Chatter
Speaker 3: about memphis players reluctant to Play in memphis because it's
Speaker 3: a danger space. To live do you think that also adds.
Speaker 3: TO it I think memphis is a. GREAT place i
Speaker 3: think that we should be one trying to uplift and
Speaker 3: highlight like all the. Positive things and so when you
Speaker 3: hear statements like that from people like they don't necessarily be, tapped,
Speaker 3: In RIGHT and i don't like statements like that, because undermines,
Speaker 3: you know, the goodness, the positivity the true essence of,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: A city that needs to.
Speaker 3: Be uplifting You watching first forty eight and shit, like
Speaker 3: that and then you make an assessments. Off that that's,
Speaker 3: that's television.
Speaker 1: That's.
Speaker 3: Entertainment right we're talking about people, who blood sweat, and tears,
Speaker 3: you know come and support, you Know, the, grizzlies right
Speaker 3: talking about people who, you, know uh support kids and
Speaker 3: and and his basketball on, all levels the work You
Speaker 3: know penny doing so, you can't. You can't it's just
Speaker 3: it's just buster comments.
Speaker 2: To me, YOU know i got a lot of love
Speaker 2: for the City. OF memphis i got People from. Memphis
Speaker 2: too People from memphis has always shown. Me love even
Speaker 2: they staff when we and, they building they.
Speaker 1: Show love.
Speaker 2: Everybody in memphis has always. Shown love SO and i
Speaker 2: was about to Go to memphis two. Years AGO so
Speaker 2: i wholeheartedly disagree because the last thing that was on
Speaker 2: my mind was this is dangerous place. TO live i
Speaker 2: Can't go every city in the world has a. Dangerous
Speaker 2: part every city in the world has a dangerous part.
Speaker 2: To it, So yeah i'm not going to sit here
Speaker 2: and single out that city and, Be, like yo a
Speaker 2: player can't go to that city because it's. Too dangerous, come,
Speaker 2: on man there's that's A wild there's a dangerous Part Of.
Speaker 2: Los angeles there's a dangerous Part. Of detroit there's a
Speaker 2: dangerous Part, Of miami Miami.
Speaker 1: Par york there's A. Dangerous dallas there's a dangerous Part.
Speaker 1: Of houston there's a dangerous part of you.
Speaker 2: Name it there's a dangerous part Of every so to
Speaker 2: a single off that franchise and try to make it
Speaker 2: like nobody want to go there because that place, is
Speaker 2: dangerous don't do that to.
Speaker 1: THAT city i disagree with. That WHOLEHEARTEDLY like, I said
Speaker 1: i was about to go there two, years ago and
Speaker 1: the last thing that was on my Mind was i'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go play with that team because. That's dangers
Speaker 1: this is who this is who we're here to.
Speaker 3: Play basketball who raise our, fan man and be great
Speaker 3: great pillars in the, absolutely man HOW can i?
Speaker 1: Help that? Stop?
Speaker 3: It man that's we Should have we should have caught
Speaker 3: that one buzz off or something. Like that, All right
Speaker 3: So the lakers just something for. Ten billion that's not a, basketball,
Speaker 3: team bro that's Like. Apple stock Damn tim billy shout
Speaker 3: out To. The lakers, you know l, a, saying, UH
Speaker 3: damn i need A. Job lakers it's just. So, fringing
Speaker 3: boy you better you better chill Out For. Steve bomber
Speaker 3: don't get you no tickets? Next year, oh man that's,
Speaker 3: YOU know i ride With. The clippers You know i'm
Speaker 3: gonna ride With. The clippers, You know lakers is people
Speaker 3: got Tattoos. The lakers It's a.
Speaker 1: Lakers.
Speaker 3: Childhood bro you ain't gonna Take the lakers JUST because
Speaker 3: i got played that leg.
Speaker 1: Will always Be a. Laker time that's. The fact It always.
Speaker 1: Lakers town, but now But.
Speaker 3: The Clippers the clippers. Got space don't get. That Twisted the,
Speaker 3: clippers got, you know the, new energy they got, new
Speaker 3: legacy and so.
Speaker 1: They got they got They, got clippers they got, new
Speaker 1: energy no legacy trying they. Trying, to.
Speaker 3: Yeah you gotta Start Somewhere. Jamond gray but you said
Speaker 3: they got. For, me yeah you gotta build, something up,
Speaker 3: All right so then they're. Building it but they don't
Speaker 3: have agree they got they, got pedigree they, got something they,
Speaker 3: got pedigree like they're building. A pedigree they're building. The
Speaker 3: essence they're they're building a chance to get to break down,
Speaker 3: the wall to get to. The championship but you are
Speaker 3: an entitled you're speaking from entitlement and a and a position.
Speaker 3: Of privilege what's what's what's what's the prin that is
Speaker 3: Your only what is?
Speaker 1: The entitlement and where's?
Speaker 2: The privilege because because It because i'm, A champion i,
Speaker 2: Earned that so it can't be an entitlement and it
Speaker 2: definitely can't be a PRIVILEGE because i would.
Speaker 1: Have took that no you. PRIVILEGE speaking i took the
Speaker 1: ability to be able to, say, that okay, you. Did
Speaker 1: yes but and they ain't got. No legacy five looked
Speaker 1: when when they put they put posters over the over
Speaker 1: the banners they.
Speaker 3: Come over But what, i'm saying you're trying To, Build
Speaker 3: pettigrew you're trying to build players LIKE.
Speaker 1: Battlers bd posters. And players you're gonna. Tell me they
Speaker 1: got you have to.
Speaker 3: THEY'RE building, i said they're building, a, legacy right they
Speaker 3: have some, legacy players like players that people identify with
Speaker 3: IN l a have, Been, LIKE yo i grew Up Watching,
Speaker 3: BLAKE griffith i grew Up Watching, CHRIS paul i grew
Speaker 3: Up Watching. Jamal crawford so those Dudes, Beyond, like So
Speaker 3: what i'm saying is the imprint on. The city they got,
Speaker 3: an opportunity not saying that they got a legacy of,
Speaker 3: winning championships but until you win, a championship you gotta
Speaker 3: have the vision of momentum and somebody that's, saying, Like
Speaker 3: hey i'm in this ship to win. A, championship like
Speaker 3: if you didn't Have the lakems as owners and you
Speaker 3: had our, same owners you would not win. A, CHAMPIONSHIP
Speaker 3: bro i can agree.
Speaker 1: With, that yes so it has to.
Speaker 3: Be okay when they, got there, They're, like yo we're
Speaker 3: gonna start. Building legacy we're gonna start our building a
Speaker 3: pedigree or a system. For sure but shout out To
Speaker 3: the Clippers All star weekend.
Speaker 2: Into, it Hey but i'll tell you, this THOUGH B
Speaker 2: d and speaking of that in ownership right In, the
Speaker 2: LAKERS like i never had the. Previous REGIME so i
Speaker 2: can't speak, to THEM but i do know the impact
Speaker 2: that our ownership group has had on. OUR organization i can't.
Speaker 2: Argue that and speaking, of ownership when you talk about
Speaker 2: teams selling for ten billion dollars and in the hands
Speaker 2: that it went Into And, mark walter, come, ON man,
Speaker 2: i think, COME on i look, At THIS when i
Speaker 2: look at this move And the lakers selling for ten
Speaker 2: Billion To, mark walker you KNOW what.
Speaker 1: I say, I, said, oh man that Makes the. Lakers
Speaker 1: dangerous because here's why it makes.
Speaker 2: Them dangerous the only thing ever ever Stopping the lakers
Speaker 2: was that take this with a grain, of salt because
Speaker 2: they got way more, than most way more.
Speaker 1: Than me and they're just a lot. Of people.
Speaker 2: But by TERMS of nba, Ownership Standards genie bus And
Speaker 2: the bus family were one of the least wealthiest families
Speaker 2: as far as. Money goes they had the big asset
Speaker 2: in which they, just sold but that was that's kind
Speaker 2: of the source of their income and so and so
Speaker 2: when that is the source of, your income it's a
Speaker 2: it's a you're gonna run it a little. Bit differently
Speaker 2: you're gonna be, more minde what this does Is the
Speaker 2: lakers in, twenty twenty. Not many only a couple of
Speaker 2: teams made money. That year if YOU remember covid all,
Speaker 2: the stuff only a couple of. Teams Made the lakers
Speaker 2: made a bunch. Of money and due To the LAKERS regional.
Speaker 1: Tv deal.
Speaker 2: It's insane they get so much money from THEIR regional,
Speaker 2: tv deal meaning their, spectrum deal and so that puts
Speaker 2: them in a position to still profit even when people
Speaker 2: couldn't get in.
Speaker 1: The stands it was either twenty twenty or twenty. TWENTY
Speaker 1: one i could be confusing the years where nobody make,
Speaker 1: no money But the, lakers did and the large part
Speaker 1: due to THEIR regional. Tv deal so.
Speaker 2: Now you got to owner with the. Deep pockets he, don't, say,
Speaker 2: WELL no i don't need. That money take all of
Speaker 2: that money and put it back into the team and
Speaker 2: go get me, this guy and go get me. That
Speaker 2: guy and let's let's let's booth do whatever we want
Speaker 2: to do with. This roster we'll pay, the tax we'll.
Speaker 2: Do this AND so i think with getting this new,
Speaker 2: ownership group it Makes the lakers so dangerous because now
Speaker 2: not only are they are are are they one of
Speaker 2: the most recognizable franchises in the history. Of sports, right
Speaker 2: now they got the pocket to match and act, like that.
Speaker 3: What that's that Is, danger WELL it's i THINK it's
Speaker 3: i think it's. ANOTHER thing i think it's. Another, thing
Speaker 3: okay look at the greatest baseball team, right Now, the,
Speaker 3: dodgers Right, The, dodgers man, thank you, thank you. Same
Speaker 3: person and then so the sow For, the, dodgers right legacy. Pedigree,
Speaker 3: culture man that's banked IN. The dna when them players, run,
Speaker 3: out man they running out for legacy. Pedigree culture when
Speaker 3: the fans, show up legacy. Pedigree culture old school dudes,
Speaker 3: come back old school players.
Speaker 1: Come back it is really like.
Speaker 3: They've run it like a family organization with deep roots in,
Speaker 3: the culture in, the legacy in the. Former players and
Speaker 3: then on top, of, that man they going they not,
Speaker 3: Playing around they trying.
Speaker 1: To win.
Speaker 3: And so looking At, the lakers, it's, like man you
Speaker 3: Gonna See, Robert norris you're gonna see, you Know The
Speaker 3: byron Scotts And, jane worthyes around like even more right
Speaker 3: because they know how TO capture la until, your point Like,
Speaker 3: THE lakers i, would say you know has been. Falling off,
Speaker 3: you Know the lakers gonna always Be. The lakers but,
Speaker 3: you know just like the essence has been. Falling off
Speaker 3: you got a bubble title over the last what, ten.
Speaker 1: Years Fifteen because, Kobe's last.
Speaker 3: So all you got is a, bubble, title right you
Speaker 3: got a title in, the bubble and ever since then
Speaker 3: you've just been you ain't figured. It out so now
Speaker 3: you got, Some stability you're gonna have some More incredible
Speaker 3: like it's just gonna upgrade the basketball culture and like
Speaker 3: the winning coaching and the winning pedigree and the care.
Speaker 3: About winning like it ain't gonna be a Bunch. Of
Speaker 3: shenanigans there's gonna be some people getting up out, of
Speaker 3: there right and they gonna, Figure, out okay this is
Speaker 3: how we're gonna this is how we're, gonna start and
Speaker 3: this is how we're gonna get to where we need to.
Speaker 3: Get to and money ain't gonna be. A problem, i
Speaker 3: mean you see What the dodgers. IS Doing O Tani
Speaker 3: bench Freeman. Smith man we.
Speaker 2: Love it the picture who just, Came over i'm drawing
Speaker 2: a blank on His name. Japanese picture The other japanese
Speaker 2: picture that just came over? Last year who was? That
Speaker 2: kimp his Name is i'm drawing a blank on his name.
Speaker 1: Right now as, YOU know i Am a. Yankee fan
Speaker 1: his Name is are You a? Yankee fan Let me
Speaker 1: i'm gonna tell you give me yeah yeah Yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yamamoto yeah yeah yeah yo.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah right so you got you got they, doing it
Speaker 2: and you can't defer contracts like that IN, the nba
Speaker 2: so they can't necessarily take.
Speaker 1: That approach but they're, telling you we got you, never
Speaker 1: know you, never know we got the.
Speaker 3: Ever, know yeah, they, got man they got the sophistication
Speaker 3: and the post they never know and.
Speaker 1: And they gonna.
Speaker 3: Put that the thing is they gonna They Gonna the
Speaker 3: Lakers Miss jerry west, so, MUCH bro.
Speaker 1: I think a lot, of, teams dude.
Speaker 3: You missed you need basketball legacy or basketball intelligence and.
Speaker 1: Oh like you need that old school vibe right because
Speaker 1: it's at the end of, the day basketball is an old. School. Sport,
Speaker 1: Fact Man Damn tim, Bill, though.
Speaker 3: Man, come, on man we need an investment and The
Speaker 3: Uh draymond Green With baron davis show if they if
Speaker 3: they're handling out that they gonna ship we can cover
Speaker 3: the games.
Speaker 1: That, far listen we can cover, the games right tenn.
Speaker 1: Billion dollars.
Speaker 3: That's why WHICH is, I mean i Mean the warriors
Speaker 3: in a, good Position the warriors in a. GREAT position
Speaker 3: i Mean The New york knicks in a. Great position
Speaker 3: it's a great position for.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 3: League man i'm. Just, Excited man i'm excited for this.
Speaker 3: Game seven You?
Speaker 1: Got, Indiana hmmm i'm Rolling in indiana. Me too we
Speaker 1: shall see if we right or if. They right but until.
Speaker 2: Next time that's a rap from this Episode Of The
Speaker 2: Draymond green Show With. Baron davis it's great to have,
Speaker 2: you back. My brother always, Appreciate you broady to chop,
Speaker 2: it up banter a, little bit get, your perspective which
Speaker 2: is always a.
Speaker 1: Unique one, and look Congratulations To. Mark walter. That's incredible
Speaker 1: and also Congratulations To mark Lore And. ALEX rodrigers i
Speaker 1: think they are finally at that point where they're like,
Speaker 1: it's stepped where It's actually minnesota is. All there so
Speaker 1: congratulations to. Those guys incredible to see what.
Speaker 2: They've done a rod as a, former athlete, excuse me,
Speaker 2: excuse me as. An athlete once you're, an athlete always,
Speaker 2: an athlete but to do, That amazing.
Speaker 1: So congrats to. Those guys job.
Speaker 2: Well done until next time we talk. To y'all there
Speaker 2: will be a champion IN. The nba there will be a,
Speaker 2: new champion a bunch of new champions crowned IN. The
Speaker 2: nba we shall see who. It is till, Next, time
Speaker 2: peace