1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. It's just 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: me today, but it's not just me because I have 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: a very special guest. Peter Weber, one of the favorites 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: from Peacocks to Traders, is on the pod with me today. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Hey Peter Ashley, what's going on? It's good to be here. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Well, you are very impressive to me because I just 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: watched episode one of The Traders and I handt even 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: as is a viewer figure out the game? 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you're You're just on episode one? All right? 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: You got so much enough to do? 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: But why am I so confused as the premise and 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: how there's a Trader and there's loyalists and you're walking 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: around you don't know who's who? 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: How do you possibly not know who's who? 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: You? 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 5: So it's funny, I almost think, and I guess they 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: I've heard people compare. 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Have you heard of the show the show The Mole? 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: Yes, that was like two thousands. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 5: I never saw it, but I a lot of people 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 5: have been talking about. I guess it's similar themes with 24 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 5: the Traders. But I think on that show you don't 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 5: know who The Trader, like you're just as in the 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 5: dark as the act. 27 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: They call it. 28 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 4: Faith could be the all, but you don't even know. 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 5: No, like the the the audience, audience doesn't know while 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: they're watching the show. This show is a little bit 31 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 5: different than The Traders, where obviously the audience is privy 32 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: to information right from the beginning when Alan chooses who 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 5: it is. So it's it's kind of I see what 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: you're saying. When you're a viewer, obviously it's like, well, 35 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 5: how do they not know? How how can you not? 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 5: You can you can't pick up on these things, but 37 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 5: you you really don't, and you know, at least for 38 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 5: me going into it, I I honestly really only knew 39 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: one I recognize, actually two people when I showed up 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 5: the first day at the castle, and it was Max 41 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: from Dance with the Stars because I love watching him. 42 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: And then I recognized Fedra. I haven't really watched the Housewives, 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: but I definitely knew who she was. Other than that, 44 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: I didn't, I didn't really know anybody, and so you're 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: kind of just trying to like everything's happening so quickly. 46 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: You're filming, you know, an episode pretty much a day 47 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: and you're just trying to pick up on any little tell. 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: But like when you go to that first round. 49 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 5: Table start, which I think you saw in the first episode, 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: and Alan goes around and picks they gave you like 51 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: skin tight blackout like imasks. 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask how blackout were those, because they had. 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: To be you can't see like it is completely blacked out. 54 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: It's like really tight on your face. They pull it 55 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: really hard, so you can't sneak anything. You're trying to 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: like listen, Oh, did I hear Alan's arm move or 57 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 5: did I hear something a fabric move when when someone 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: got touched And that kind of got you know. That 59 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 5: was the topic of conversation in the beginning because in 60 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: the beginning you have nothing, so you're just you're shooting 61 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 5: at anything. But yeah, you truly you don't know how 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 5: many are chosen. You don't know who's chosen. It could 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: be I think anywhere from two to five is what 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: the rules said at the very beginning. And yeah, you're 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 5: completely in the dark as a faithful. 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: That was another thing that I was confused about because 67 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Alan was like, the traders are gonna have a meeting tonight. 68 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: I was like, well, how do you guys who aren't traders? Yeah, 69 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: Like don't you wonder why they're missing? 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 5: So the way that all works is at the very 71 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 5: end of the filming day, like once we're all done 72 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: with reality, we finished the roundtable ceremonies, we go actually 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: we go back to like for reality for like maybe 74 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: thirty more minutes where you're on camera. After that, you 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: get taken into a big room and the doors closed 76 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: and everyone's in there, and you get called out one 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: by one to go to your own you know, you 78 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: get let out by producers on your own to go 79 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 5: sleep here for the night. So you don't know if 80 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 5: they're taking you know, someone to just go to their room, 81 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: or you're taking them to go to turret to go 82 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 5: have a secret conversation with another trader. 83 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: It's all one by once. You don't know. 84 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: So you mentioned that, like you didn't really recognize anyone. 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: So when I was on Stars on Mars, I was 86 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: like really intimidated because they were huge. I felt very 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: out of place. There were huge stars, Lance Armstrong, Marshawn Lynch, 88 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: like Paul Pierce, We'renda Rousey. I'm like, oh, these are 89 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: household names. Like if you don't watch the Bachelory know 90 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: who I am at all? So I felt very small. Now, 91 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: you mentioned that you didn't recognize anybody, and that's just 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: probably because you don't watch like a ton of reality TV, 93 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: because if you're like a reality TV person, like these 94 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: people are really huge Johnny Bananas and all that. Did 95 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: you how did you feel socially in that environment? 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a great But first off, I'm 97 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: just curious. 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: What was I'm a diehard Seahawks fan, vismode Mark Shawn Lynch. 99 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: How was he awesome? 100 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: I was there for forty eight hours and he was 101 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: the greatest part of my experience. He was everything you've 102 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: ever wanted him to be. He was the one that 103 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: when people were like, who are you excited to meet? 104 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: I was like him and he lived up to expectations. 105 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you guys are big Patriots fans, right. 106 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a Giants fans Patriots. 107 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: Fan, so well. Anyways, Yeah, I love that legion. 108 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: Of boom time over at the Seio. 109 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the glory days. 110 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think I actually think it probably it was 111 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: to my benefit not having any real reason to let 112 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 5: feel an intimidation, you know, if I obviously since the show, 113 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 5: I've you know, done, you know, my research on everyone, 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 5: and just you just get to know them obviously, so 115 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 5: you become friends pretty quickly. 116 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: But like with. 117 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: Johnny Bananas, obviously he was only there for I think 118 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 5: one day. He was out super quickly. But that guy 119 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: is a game player. That guy is you know, to 120 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: be almost a little bit of a menace and like 121 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: super hard to read and like to pick up on, 122 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 5: so I would be really curious. 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: I think he could have gone super far. 124 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 5: But again, at that point, traders are Dan and they 125 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: are Phaedra, and I think Dan was the one that 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: took the lead on that. It was probably the smartest 127 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: call to get rid of someone that's that powerful of 128 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 5: a game player right off the bat, so you just 129 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 5: you don't have to worry about it. But for me, yeah, 130 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 5: I didn't have really that intimidation factor, so I kind 131 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 5: of just went in just shooting the ship with everyone 132 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: getting to know them, having fun. We're in a castle 133 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 5: in Scotland, the most beautiful landscape you can imagine, playing 134 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: a really cool real life game of Clue, and just 135 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 5: got to know everyone right then for the very first time, 136 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: no preconceived notions, and I think also coming from you know, 137 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: the only background that I have with reality TV Bachelor, 138 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: you know, love emotion based all that stuff. There was 139 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 5: really no competitive gameplay type film, you know, per se 140 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 5: on me for other people to you know, get reads on. 141 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: And you know, I was able to kind of benefit 142 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 5: from that because they really couldn't get read. 143 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: I guess was part of you like, oh man, I 144 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: don't have many Bachelor friends here. 145 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 146 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: Well, I was just talking with Nick and he'd asked 147 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: me something about with x's and do you know ECKENSU No, 148 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: Eckens She's from Love Island, okay version. 149 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I know who you're talking about now. 150 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, very similar look to Kelly, especially from as 151 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: from Kelly playing. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: Very similar look. 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: And again as you're showing up to the castle, you're 154 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: driving in these like big land Rover like Humby's. There's 155 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: only four of us in a car at a time. 156 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 5: So I was with Sandra, I was with Peppermint, and 157 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 5: I was a chre. I was in the front right seat, 158 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 5: and so we're driving around doing these like tracking shots 159 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 5: and we were passing another suv coming the opposite direction 160 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: and like my heart, it stopped because I see I 161 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: see this girl in the front right seat of the 162 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: opposite car, and I'm like, they did not that's Kelly, Like, 163 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: oh my god. 164 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: That would have been awesome for us. 165 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but not. 166 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: They would have had a lot of Bachelor Nation crossover 167 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: with the viewership there first. 168 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Sure, totally, And I like I thought it was her 169 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: at first. 170 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Was there a TikTok going around that your mom's commenting 171 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: on her on her stuff for social media and stuff 172 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: I can sue. 173 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: If there is, I'm not sure. I mean, my mom 174 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: is a big fan of econ Sue. Yeah, she definitely, 175 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: she likes her, She's befriended her, But I don't know 176 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: if there's a TikTok going around maybe. 177 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Is she a big fan as if she wants you 178 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: to date her? 179 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: No, we we are. We're just good friends. 180 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 5: She's she's kind of I don't want to speak on 181 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: her half, but kind of you know, has some stuff 182 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: going on with her relationship or maybe ending of the relationship, 183 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: so just just friends. 184 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: Out of all the shows that are represented on the Traders, Yeah, 185 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: what show do you think had like the most upper hand? 186 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: Was it The Challenge Survivor? 187 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 5: I think Big Brother, I truly do I think, And 188 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: again it was it was kind of cool from my 189 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: perspective to go into this game kind of like be 190 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: naive in a way, and I'm up here playing with Dan. 191 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if you're familiar with Dan. 192 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: I'm familiar with Dan now, yeah. 193 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 5: Okay, apparently known as the best big brother to ever 194 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: like player to ever play the game, and did not 195 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: know this, and so it's kind of funny, Like looking 196 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: back on it, I was like, Wow, I was like 197 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: literally in the presence of greatness and this kind of 198 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 5: like atmosphere, this kind of game type thing I noticed, 199 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 5: though not so much from him because him and I 200 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 5: never got We were close, but there was always suspicion 201 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 5: on him. 202 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: He was the first trader banished. 203 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 5: Not to spoil it, sorry, but Nell, who also played 204 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: with him, I'm a big brother. She kind of like 205 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 5: I was soaking up information from her left and right, like. 206 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: Her gameplay, her strategizing, like. 207 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 5: It was so on point, and the way she would 208 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: see things were just ways that I wasn't even thinking 209 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: about looking that way. And I felt like I owe 210 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 5: her a lot of credit because I really kind of 211 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 5: learned trial by fire along her side and Unfortunately she 212 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: got banished kind of early on too, but we had 213 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: developed a really good relationship and it was cool to 214 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 5: play with someone that has done this and it's been 215 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: so successful and kind. 216 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: Of learned from her. 217 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: Cool. So did you watch the first season as study? 218 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: I did? Yeah, yeah, have to. 219 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: I really feel like yeah with Ari? Did you call Ari? 220 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: Did you guys have a meeting? 221 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 5: So this all happened so last minute. I got a 222 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: call about a week, as these shows often do. I 223 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: thought I was like a replacement or something. I'm like, oh, 224 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: this is I'm just a last bit of replacement. Sure, 225 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say yes, it sounds freaking awesome. Had time 226 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,359 Speaker 5: off from work, so I quickly binged. 227 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: The whole season. 228 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 5: Then and then you're getting my your wardrobe you had 229 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 5: to get like ten eleven looks ready. So I'm I 230 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: was going like crazy, all your medical tests and all 231 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: that stuff done. So I had meant, you know, intended 232 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 5: to call him. I never did, and then I got 233 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 5: asked this all you know in promos when around Scotland 234 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 5: and your phone's gone. 235 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, ah shit, but. 236 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 5: He did so good? Like he like he I, in 237 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: my opinion, could have won it. If he would have 238 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 5: just played it a little bit different. He kind of 239 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 5: he kind of gave it up at the end, which 240 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: is you. 241 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: Know, any second he was second to last episode or 242 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: something like that. 243 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: He was. He made this episodical. 244 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a trader and then him and another trader, Suri, 245 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: had made it to the final. They had two other 246 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 5: faithfuls and he could have left, you know, left the 247 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 5: game with just Surria split the pot, but he he 248 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: didn't want to like get into it, get all muddy 249 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: and get nasty at the end, so he walked out. 250 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: But he did it really he played really well, a 251 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 5: good game as well. 252 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: How's the social media feedback? Then? 253 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: People are really just loving you in this element. They're 254 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: saying that you're showing how smart and tactful you can 255 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: be in these challenges and as a leader. 256 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: Does this make you feel awesome? 257 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 3: It feel it feels cool? Yeah, it's funny, Like. 258 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 5: I I I get I didn't realize that. I kind 259 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: of was like I didn't think it'd be such a shock, right, 260 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: Like I look at myself and you know, I know 261 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: all the work I've put into, you know, becoming a 262 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: pilot and all that entails and you know, a certain 263 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: level of just knowledge and and whatnot. So I was 264 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 5: I didn't really surprise myself so much, but I guess 265 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 5: people just really underestimated that. And you know, I guess 266 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: all they have if you don't know me, is you know, 267 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: a couple episodes of a you know, Bachelor of a 268 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: love season. So it's been cool to see that response. 269 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 5: I definitely appreciate that love. And I mean with the 270 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 5: love comes a lot of other hate you don't get 271 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: just you know, one side. So it's like kind of 272 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 5: bringing you back to that moment of when I was 273 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: going through the Bachelor, and you get opinions left and right, 274 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: but no, it's predominantly been really really cool and the 275 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: Traders fan base yeah is yeah, good good place in 276 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 5: my heart for them. 277 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Of all the challenges that you do, because some of 278 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: them they even say are like fear factor level, which 279 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: one was the most intense for you? 280 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 5: That honestly was like one of the most fun parts 281 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 5: of the game. And I remember I just was like, obviously, 282 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 5: you go in there, you want to win, and you 283 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: don't know how things are going to play out. There's 284 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 5: twenty one, you know, plus contestants in the beginning, So 285 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: it's kind of a long shot at first, but I'm 286 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 5: just like, I just don't want to be the first one, 287 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: like Knicked, I just want to try one mission because 288 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: I'd always want to do like a fear factor. I 289 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: always want to do that. So obviously got to do 290 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: quite a bit of them. I would say the worst 291 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: one was the It Comes later on. It was like 292 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: two episodes ago. We had to do an escape room 293 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 5: where we went into this like small little house. So hard, 294 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: but this was hard, but this was disgusting, Like this 295 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 5: was truly it and my biggest fear in the world 296 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: of snakes, like hands down, you know, everyone has that 297 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: one fear. 298 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: I just I cannot do steaks. 299 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: I'm a spider's over snakes person. 300 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: But okay, yeah, okay, so for me it's snakes. And 301 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 5: we go into this escape room. Uh doctor Wild he's 302 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 5: from Big Brother. They had brought him in as like 303 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: a guest spot to host that episode. And we get 304 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: put it into this house or it's a small little cabin, 305 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: and we find out we have to go through the 306 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: back of this wardrobe chest and we break through that 307 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 5: wall and then it leads to this tunnel as like 308 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: a forty five degree angle down into this like cellar 309 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: or like this. It's like a yeah, underground cell like 310 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 5: sewage system, literally like a sewage system. 311 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: So you go in there all wet. 312 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 5: It smell smells like like they have like I don't 313 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 5: think it was real, like feces, like just from health reasons, 314 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 5: but they made it smell like that. 315 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: And you're walking around. 316 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: It's freezing, You're like on your knees are banging up 317 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: against like metal grates. 318 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 3: It's pitch black because the lights kept. 319 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 5: Turning on and off, and of course then they have 320 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 5: critters down there as well, and you're like in if 321 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: you're claustrophobic, you you could not, like a couple people 322 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: didn't do it. And you're going around and there's like 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: certain little, you know, offsets, so you can try to 324 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: go get a shield, or you can go get money 325 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: for the pot. And there was one at the very 326 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 5: end where you could just see a little bit light 327 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 5: would go into the room and it would it would 328 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: reflect off of two eyes and looking in there. And 329 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: I wasn't the first one to go, but Trischelle, she's 330 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: like she knew I was terrified. Estacially, Peter, don't just 331 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: don't don't go that way. And I'm like, why, Like 332 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 5: there's a snake in there. 333 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, just just freeze slithering around. 334 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 5: So the eyes were like in the very back. It 335 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: was a small maybe four by four room, you know, 336 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: two three feet tall, And anyways, there was a good 337 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: pot of change. There was like five thousand dollars coin 338 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: in there. I obviously didn't go in there. Well, anyways, 339 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: funny story is we get out of the mission, we 340 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: get out of like the whole the sewage system, and 341 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: I'm still like, I can't believe that was that close 342 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: to a snake, Like holy shit. 343 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 344 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 5: And then we're after we're back at the castle and 345 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: the animal handler is there and like we're talking to him. 346 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, so I just got asked to like what 347 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 5: what kind of snake was that? Just because that's like 348 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 5: my biggest fear of what was I like going up against. 349 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: He's like, snake, were talking about snake. I'm like, the 350 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: snake that was in the back with the last coin. 351 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 5: He's like, there were no, there were no snakes in there, 352 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: Like what He's like, those were toads. 353 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: It's like, oh my. 354 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: God, from a distance, little eyes in the darkness like 355 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 5: the skin. But that was the toughest mission. 356 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: That was the scariest one. 357 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,359 Speaker 3: All yeah, the scariest. 358 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: You have this term that they're calling you captain faithful. 359 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: You were even asked to be a trader, you wouldn't 360 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: do it? What was it about you? 361 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: Just like needing to be the good guy here? 362 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: Wasn't even so much that that's been blown out of proportion. 363 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: I feel like so much like it. It really didn't 364 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: go that deep. I was so strategic in like I 365 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: just chose I was going to be very Once I 366 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: got ahold of the game, I felt comfortable. As you'll 367 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 5: see if you know you continue to watching the show. 368 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: It we just the group of you know, faithfuls that 369 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 5: I decided to put my trust into. 370 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: We all did that with each other. 371 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 5: So we got very close and we have a lot 372 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: of really good momentum going at that point in the 373 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 5: game when I got the recruitment. So in my mind 374 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 5: again it's everything has a repercussion. It's there's pros and 375 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: cons to everything. First off, I just didn't want to 376 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: throw off my game. At that point. We were doing 377 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: so well. Now I'd have to completely switch up, and 378 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: now I'm lying to every single person that I've been trusting, 379 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 5: and I just felt like, you know, maybe I had 380 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: the acting chops to do it, but it just I 381 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: wasn't totally confident in that. 382 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: And also, at that. 383 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: Point, before they gave me the recruitment letter, we had 384 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 5: just banished or we had just figured out two of 385 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: the traders, and while I was kind of at the 386 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: forefront of helping figure those out, to me, it was 387 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: just like, this is way too obvious because it was 388 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: going to be known to the rest of the castle 389 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: that there was a recruitment. I'm like, everyone's gonna like, 390 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 5: who's the most obvious recruit. Well, we're gonna go get 391 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: the guy that just figured us out. And so I 392 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 5: was like, that just is not going to bode well 393 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: for me. I could see these two traders just completely 394 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 5: turning on me the very next day, throwing me under 395 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: the bus, and then now gaining some credibility on their side. 396 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Oh look, Peter was a trader. We got him. I 397 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: just didn't want to didn't want to go down that route. 398 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: You mentioned lying, and I'm watching this show and I'm like, 399 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm the worst actress. 400 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: I cannot lie for the life of me. 401 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that's a kind of like a 402 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: trade that you need to have have going. 403 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: Into it, or at least let's just say it's acting. 404 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, it is acting, and like none of it's 405 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 5: like you had to like it's weird because the game 406 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 5: it gets so intense, everything down to like the host 407 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: with Alan Cumming, he's such a master of his craft, 408 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: like such a method actor. Never broke character actually once, 409 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: like he was just what you saw on TV was 410 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: how we would talk to you off, you know, when 411 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: we were just maintain this persona of the top, over 412 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: the top, just Scottish crazy guy that owns this castle. 413 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 5: It's inviting these strangers to come in and play, you know, 414 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: a crazy game for some money. And so I it, Yeah, 415 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 5: it would have been tough to kind of switch that. 416 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 5: And there was one part where I kind of had 417 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: to pull out the traders. Like so there was a 418 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 5: trader name's Poverty, And at the end we kind of 419 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: did like a little hair Hill Mary thing where I 420 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: was trying to convince her like we knew she was 421 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: a trader. But then our strategy like we got to 422 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: switch it up and we got to try to somehow 423 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 5: make her like convinced that we're not onto her anymore, 424 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: and so there was a little bit of where I 425 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: got a taste of Damn, this would have been fun 426 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 5: being able to like go around and just like beIN 427 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: gvous and like just completely throw people off and do 428 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 5: all like. It would have been fun as hell to 429 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 5: be a Trader. I probably would have accepted it much 430 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: earlier on in the game. It's just when they offered 431 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 5: it to me, it was too far in. But yeah, 432 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: it would have been fun to be a Trader from 433 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 5: the beginning. I think I would enjoyed it. 434 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: So we've heard from Tamra that it was really hard 435 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: to kind of readjust back to real life after the Traders. 436 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Did you find yourself like needing to talk to like 437 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: the show therapist more than possibly even the Bachelor. 438 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: We Yeah, I definitely did. 439 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: They had us talk to a show therapist, like every 440 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 5: couple of days we had our own like we'd go 441 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 5: for walks and like you know, when we're not filming 442 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 5: or like on our off days, we'd go and like 443 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: just have like a nice hour chat. And yeah, I 444 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: think there's reason for that because again, like what I 445 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: was getting to before, it's such an intense environment, like 446 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: truly intense. And then you you know, even though I 447 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: didn't know people going in, you see very quickly what 448 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 5: these people are capable of. And you know, at the 449 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: what's it called the roundtable ceremonies, those that was so 450 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: much more intense than any Rose ceremony I ever went through, 451 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 5: any experience, any experience on the Bachelor that I ever did. 452 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: It didn't even it paled in comparison to the round 453 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: table because imagine, yeah, it was intense. Imagine like you have, 454 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 5: there's just so much like suspicion floating in the air. 455 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: You have brilliant people that know what they're doing, that 456 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 5: are all in conversation. You get heat on you, you 457 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 5: get all the eyes of you know, starting from twenty 458 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: to twenty one down to hopefully you make it to 459 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: the end. It is. It is a pressure like cooker 460 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 5: and you just hope that you aren't going to crack 461 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 5: on it because one little misstep, like one little miscalculation, 462 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: and your possible entire game as well as you've played 463 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 5: to that point, goes. 464 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: Down the drain. 465 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 5: And they it's so cool, like one of my fondest 466 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: memories they have, like they really really do a good 467 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 5: job of setting the mood for you. So you'd walk in. 468 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 5: It's like this really really cool, elaborate wooden. It looks 469 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: like almost like you're in a church, but it's in 470 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 5: the castle, and they're playing the song from mocking Jay 471 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: from what was the movie with Jennifer Larrence. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 472 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 5: they're playing that song and it starts off like really cool, 473 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 5: and they have like this like camera that's like on 474 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: a suspended arm from the ceiling, coming around just like rotating, 475 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: getting all like the shots of everyone, and it like 476 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: you don't talk until Alan and as the music's ending 477 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 5: every single time and get really dramatic to like the 478 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 5: highest point. And then in dramatic fashion, Alan walks in 479 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 5: from the entrance, comes up the stairs and like stomps 480 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 5: his foot. He's like welcomes a round table, and it 481 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: just like boom, game on, don't crack. 482 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm really mind boggled. Deck. 483 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: You can be more intense than a row ceremony, because 484 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: when I think of the most like nerve wracking moment 485 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: of my life, they're Rose ceremonies. So would you say 486 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: that if you had to compare the two experiences between 487 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: the Bachelor and Traders. Which one did you get more 488 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: in your head about, Like which one did you feel 489 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: like the most, Like oh my god, like who am 490 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: I like so introspective and all that good question. 491 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: I would say, I really feel like I was able 492 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: to be more myself on The Traders. I didn't feel 493 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 5: as much pressure, like I think, if I'm comparing that's 494 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: a really good question if I'm comparing myself to like 495 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 5: on the Bachelor, And you know, I've talked about this 496 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 5: in the past, Like I was definitely being myself, Like 497 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 5: I can't not be myself, but I was trying so 498 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: hard to. I think I gave too much energy to 499 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 5: too many people on The Bachelor, and like that came 500 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: to bite me in the ass later on, just because 501 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 5: at some point you only have so much to give, 502 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 5: and you know, I was trying maybe a little bit 503 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: of like people pleasing qualities on the Bachelor. I tried 504 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 5: my best, just you know, these women took so much 505 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: time out of their lives to come and date me 506 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: and see if there's, you know, potentially something here, Like 507 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 5: I felt like I owed it to them, and so 508 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 5: I I just felt like I gave gave, gave so 509 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: much on that show, and it kind of like broke 510 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 5: me down into like a pretty tough state at the end, 511 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 5: Like I was just exhausted on this. I kind of 512 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: and you'll see, like it's it's I think it's a 513 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 5: different feel Like I didn't really go into. 514 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: It like that. 515 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 5: I I did what I wanted to do the entire time, 516 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: and I. 517 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 4: Was selfish, but in a good way. 518 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, like not even like just selfish, like just I 519 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: guess maybe selfish, Yeah, maybe that's not the right word. Yeah, 520 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 5: but I just I put like the interest of what 521 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 5: the group that I was with that I was fighting 522 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 5: with first, and like if anything tried to attack that, 523 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: I was going to put a stop to it immediately. 524 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: And and maybe didn't do that so much on The Bachelor, 525 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 5: just maybe from experience and not really you know, no 526 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 5: one knows what they're doing when they do that experience. 527 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say I would say The Bachelor 528 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 5: was probably more difficult in that way and kind of 529 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 5: more more testing. 530 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: Like on the Bachelor, you're just like focus on love 531 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 4: and relationships. It's not like all about you. 532 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: Right, all right, Well, Peter, thank you so much for 533 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: joining us for both this episode and our Headlines episode 534 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: it's always great talking to you, and we wish you 535 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: the utmost success. 536 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: With the Traders going forward. Because the episodes left. 537 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: We just finished episode nine and there's yeah eleven, so 538 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 5: two more in the reunion. 539 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: We're rooting for you. I think you're gonna get that. 540 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: Until next time, I've been Ashley, I've been Peter. 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