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Speaker 1: Man, Welcome to Lake Kick is Live. It is Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: February seventeenth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: We are jam packed. We are high attap a very

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Speaker 1: stormy and suddenly freezing cold downtown Nashville, Tennessee. We got

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Speaker 1: a let's talk about this evening transfer portal winners. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a whisper or two of some losers, but we're mainly

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Speaker 1: hitting winners tonight. I'll tell you why. We had a

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Speaker 1: transfer portal season is not totally done. We've got that

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Speaker 1: whole post spring period to where you could be a

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Speaker 1: just it becomes a big mess. Also, we are continuing

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Speaker 1: the Mood Tracker tonight. We are headed to Faithville, Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: Arkansas Mood Tracker time. We've got Jim Harbaugh with a

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Speaker 1: restructured contract for the second time in a calender a year. Basically,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball restructuring his contract. Now, that alone pretty rare,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of a lot of talk going

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Speaker 1: on right now about certain aspects of this contract and

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Speaker 1: per year. Hoops among us wouldn't love that, But there

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Speaker 1: is a lot of talk out there that I think

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Speaker 1: is kind of overblown. To be real with you, about

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Speaker 1: other aspects of that contract, I will detail. We've also

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Speaker 1: got a brand new high profile name in the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: a lot of portaling tonight and a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. When did

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Speaker 1: the Chalice get moved? Oh? Wilfong had this thing earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Looks pretty there, though, Colin, did you put that there?

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Speaker 1: Looks really pretty. If you're listening on podcast, ignore everything

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Make sure you're following on Twitter at late

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Speaker 1: Kick Josh and planning on doing some things with Twitter

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Speaker 1: spaces in the very near future with some folks that

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Speaker 1: you know and some names out there that you know. Look,

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Speaker 1: I got to be real with you. I got to

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Speaker 1: kind of apologize to start the show. We grade every

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Speaker 1: show very harshly. When it came to last show, I

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Speaker 1: thought last show was one of the worst we've done

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Speaker 1: That's what's the worst about it. There's no one else

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Speaker 1: last show sucked, so we're going to try and do

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Speaker 1: a much better show for you tonight. There was no

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Speaker 1: single thing that stood out. It just it wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't good. It was a tomato can be a

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Speaker 1: good and well what that looks like. So let's try

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Speaker 1: and do better tonight, shall we. By we, I mean

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Speaker 1: me transfer portal winners. A lot of them don't have

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Speaker 1: losers yet because, mind you, as I said, we still

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Speaker 1: got the entire post spring period with the transfer portal

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. But there are a lot of teams to

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Speaker 1: turn and where they could be this upcoming year. This

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Speaker 1: they added the most important piece out of the entire

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Speaker 1: transfer portal season. I'm going to say something along the

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Speaker 1: same lines about USC when we talk about Kayleb Williams

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Speaker 1: you could stop at the name quinn Ewers, because Texas

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Speaker 1: added him, top overall player from the previous recruiting cycle,

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Speaker 1: there for Steve Sarkejian. And this is all needing to

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Speaker 1: We got guys on this team that don't need to

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Speaker 1: name that Steve Sarkejian knows from his time at Bama.

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Speaker 1: A lot was expected of him at Bama. This past

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Speaker 1: But I'm very excited as we get into spring. Not

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Speaker 1: just culture cultures. It wasn't good there last year. It's

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Speaker 1: but it's real. They've seen seventeen kids depart the program

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the attitude around Alabama. Those are three

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was easily the story of this cycle, and

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams being the story of the cycle also led

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Speaker 1: You know all about Morio Williams. I think it's huge

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Speaker 1: disproportionate impact that a player the caliber of Kayleb Williams

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Speaker 1: you possibly know what this kid's capable of? At what

431
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: part of Arizona State football has been conducive to producing

432
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Speaker 1: the best in someone and to squeezing out every ounce

433
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: of potential from a quarterback or a player in general.

434
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: They would tell you, if this guy lands in the

435
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: right spot, he will explode this upcoming year. Obviously, Jaden

436
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: Daniels may think that, but there are some people out

437
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: there with opinions I would trust and lean on that

438
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: believe that too. So there's a sharp divide on what

439
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: kind of player he is. But I do want to

440
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: make mention of something. If you've been following the story today,

441
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: you probably have already seen this. We're not going to

442
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: show you the video, but remember the old bull who

443
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? It was Bo Callahan, the old Bo

444
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: Callahan protocol from the movie Draft Day, where Kevin Costner,

445
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, the entire future of the Cleveland Browns franchise

446
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: is writing on who they're going to draft number one

447
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: overall and it's Khalil Mack no matter what I mean.

448
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: As it turns out spoiler alert, but Bo Callahan is

449
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: the big time quarterback and he calls bo Callahan and

450
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: his draft day and he says, aham Bo, why didn't

451
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: your teammates come to your birthday party? Because that is

452
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Speaker 1: what the research had told and Costner was the red flag.

453
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: Bo Callahan's friends and his teammates didn't come to his

454
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Speaker 1: birthday party. Uh oh, Well, I'm perusing the internet as

455
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for the show, and there is a

456
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Speaker 1: video that has been publicized from some of the players

457
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: in the Arizona State locker room who have taken it

458
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: upon themselves to clean out Jaden Daniel's locker. How should

459
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: I put this? They didn't seem very somber in nature

460
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: as they cleaned his locker out. So what am I

461
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Speaker 1: to make of that? I don't know. We can conclude

462
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Speaker 1: definitively from that that there were more than a few

463
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Speaker 1: players in said locker room that weren't exactly heartbroken to

464
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Speaker 1: see date Jayden Daniels go. Could be sour grapes, could

465
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Speaker 1: be that there was some friction behind the scenes, could

466
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Speaker 1: be whatever you want it to be. At this point,

467
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: it really depends on how much stock you put in

468
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Speaker 1: the bow Callahan protocol. We move on. Where's he going

469
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: to go? That's what everyone wants to know. There's some

470
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Speaker 1: UCLA buzz. We don't know how long this process is

471
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Speaker 1: going to take. You know, it's online when you go

472
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Speaker 1: into the portal in December, and you know, hey, I

473
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: can drag this out into January. I can pull a

474
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. You know, I could seemingly string folks along.

475
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't really know if that's what Kayleb Williams did,

476
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: but I sure felt strung along. Man. It was a

477
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: tense few weeks for us. But that's then. This is now.

478
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: Teams are getting ready for spring practice, so you got

479
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: to get something figured out pretty quick. And it stands

480
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: to reason if behind the scenes they were shopping him already,

481
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Speaker 1: and by shopping, I just mean doing their due diligence

482
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: and finding out where there may be an opportunity, they

483
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: probably got it narrowed down. They're probably well ahead of

484
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Speaker 1: the curve and we're just now finding out about it.

485
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Speaker 1: But there you go. How about that. Jadeen Daniels in

486
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal today and we will keep you updated

487
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: on the very latest. There was other news this morning

488
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: that I think was obviously expected, but let's talk about

489
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Speaker 1: it here, Colin. I think this is a better endpoint

490
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Speaker 1: for you. Jim Harbaugh has a new contract. Where have

491
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Speaker 1: you heard that before? Well, probably on this show about

492
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Speaker 1: this time one year ago. And it's not that he's

493
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Speaker 1: got a totally new con tract. It's that he's got

494
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: a restructured contract. So let's get you up to speed,

495
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: like what has happened here. If you've been I don't know,

496
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: on some two month cruise, well it's been a very

497
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: very interesting last year, actually, so let's make it a

498
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: year long cruise, and congratulations to you. I don't know

499
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Speaker 1: what contest you want coming out of twenty twenty, I

500
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: mean December January of twenty twenty, it is literally fifty

501
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: to fifty whether this guy's going to keep his job.

502
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: He could walk away, he could be fired, who knows.

503
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: Well we all know how that ended. Jim Harbaugh and Michigan.

504
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: They agreed to a restructured contract. He takes a reduced salary,

505
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Speaker 1: and essentially it was we're looking at Jim and saying

506
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Speaker 1: we don't want you to go. But if you stay here,

507
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: some changes are going to have to be made, because

508
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: we got to toss some red meat over here to

509
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Speaker 1: the folks who do want you gone. Jim Harbaugh agreed

510
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Speaker 1: to it. Okay. All that followed was the best season

511
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: he's had at Michigan to date. And they win the

512
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Speaker 1: Big Ten and they go to the college football playoff.

513
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Speaker 1: You see the video here shot exclusively on the eye

514
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: Josh right there in the snow, in front of God

515
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Speaker 1: and everyone after they beat Ohio State. Well, we also

516
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: remember what happened after the Big Ten championship game, and

517
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: then they lose in the playoff, but they made the playoff. Well,

518
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: then he tries to go get the Vikings job. I'll

519
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: give him credit. He has spoken since then and said

520
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't apologize for trying to do that. Now, you know,

521
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: on this show we didn't necessarily question that. I mean,

522
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: the guy can do whatever he wants to. It's his life.

523
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Speaker 1: I was echoing the sentiment of some people in the

524
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Speaker 1: administrative and entertainment based portion of our industry who had

525
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Speaker 1: told me the big surprise was he actually allowed a

526
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Speaker 1: public interview to be had. Normally that's not the way

527
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Speaker 1: it works at that level, So be that is it made,

528
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Speaker 1: that's the way it turned out. Well, then he doesn't

529
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Speaker 1: get the job, and he comes back, and now here

530
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Speaker 1: we are, for the second time in a little over

531
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Speaker 1: a year, Jim Harbaugh in Michigan headline. Again they have

532
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: agreed to a restruction contract. Only this time Jim Harbaugh

533
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Speaker 1: is the beneficiary because he's getting more money instead of

534
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Speaker 1: less money. So here are the quick details, and then

535
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you why some of this is

536
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Speaker 1: very overblown, at least in my mind. A little over

537
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: seven million a year. That is the average salary, or

538
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: that's the salary per year, so a little over seven

539
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: a year. Now, there are some incentives here. He gets

540
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand for winning the division, gets a million

541
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Speaker 1: if they win the Big Ten, two hundred k if

542
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Speaker 1: they appear in a New Year six game, half a

543
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: million if he makes the playoff, and one million dollars

544
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Speaker 1: if he wins the national title. He gets as much

545
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Speaker 1: money for winning the Big Ten as he does the

546
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: national title. By the way, I don't have a problem

547
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Speaker 1: with that. It's just an interesting incentive structure. By far,

548
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: the most notable part of this restructure contract was the buyout.

549
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: There's a lot being made about this buyout, and to

550
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: be clear, here's what the buyout is. It's three million

551
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: dollars in year one and it reduces by seven hundred

552
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars every year. That's not a whole

553
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: lot of money. I don't know if you're aware of that,

554
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, let me sit here and tell you. Wearing

555
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: the same white T shirt every week. Three million not

556
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money at all. What am I gonna

557
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: eat tonight? What flavor of rama noodles will I eat tonight?

558
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, three mil not a whole lot of money

559
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: in this world. I'm serious. It's not a lot of money. Now,

560
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: A lot has been made, as I said, of how

561
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: low that number is, and I really couldn't care less

562
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: about it for a couple of reasons. So I want

563
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: you to follow me here, because on the surface, if

564
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: someone were to tell you, ooh man, that buyout numbers

565
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: really low. So first off, it's going to be really

566
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: easy for him to leave if someone wants him. And

567
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: be what that negative recruiting because someone's going to come

568
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: in that living room and that four star wide receiver

569
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: from Murphysboro, Tennessee. And they're going to say, your coach

570
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: has a very low buyout. Are you confident he's going

571
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: to be there in four years? Are you really that confident?

572
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a couple of things that people really

573
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: didn't do, and they're called do and diligence. And what

574
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean by that is, did anyone even go so

575
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Speaker 1: far as to take Jim Harbaugh's buyout and compare it

576
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: to other coaches in America or even the Big Ten?

577
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: Think you'd be shocked at what you'd find. But I'm

578
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: not here to do that because we did not prepare

579
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: that graphic. My fault. So what I am here to

580
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: do is I'm here to tell you there are two

581
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: other reasons. Well, I don't really care about Jim Harball's buyout,

582
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's really going to affect much

583
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: of anything. It's probably a February headline that will be

584
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: up in smoke by the time spring practice opens. Firstly,

585
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: does anyone around here know what the main purpose of

586
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: a college football buyout in a coach's contract is for.

587
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: It ain't to keep you from going to the NFL.

588
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: Let me spoil it for you. It's to keep you

589
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: away from other college jobs. Everybody knows the billions with

590
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: a bee that the NFL is worth, and a lot

591
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: of those franchises are worth. Everybody knows that there is

592
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: no NFL franchise that would be deterred whether Jim Harball's

593
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: buyout was three million or eight million. Nobody's going to

594
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: be turned away if they want him to be their

595
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: coach because of what number the buyout is. Secondly, let's

596
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: talk about the college level. On what planet is Jim

597
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: Harball leaving Michigan for another college job? Not this one?

598
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: And this is the only one I plan on living on,

599
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: and he plans on living on. Jim Harball's not taking

600
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: another college job, and if he wants to go to

601
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't matter what the buyout is. Anyway, his

602
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: buyout is probably one of the most irrelevant in all

603
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: of major college football. So push that to the side.

604
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't really care about that. I am particularly interested

605
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of folks who think this is going

606
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: to impact the program in terms of negative recruiting, because

607
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I think that's pretty irrelevant too. First

608
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: thing I do if I were Jim Harbaugh is I

609
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: would I probably be blunt, and I'd say exactly what

610
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I just said. Second thing I would say is the

611
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: coach is telling you that what are their buyouts? What's

612
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: their history? You pulled up their Wikipedia? Have they been

613
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: at the same job for twenty years? But you could

614
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: have always said that what about this added caveat that

615
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: you can put kind of a carrot on the end

616
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: of the stick. Do you understand how irrelevant the transfer

617
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: portal really makes this? Now? Do you understand that when

618
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: a recruit comes to a program, even the ones who

619
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: are wired correctly, they walk in the program, the door

620
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: doesn't close. The door over here with the exit above it.

621
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: That's the way recruiting works. Now, you walk in through

622
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: the same door you've always walked in through. The difference

623
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: is the door doesn't shut. It just stays open there. Now,

624
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: maybe you never go back out, well, but you always

625
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: know when you walk in if I don't like it

626
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: in this room, or if anything happens in this room

627
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: that doesn't sit well with me, there's the door. It's

628
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: going to be just as easy to go out as

629
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: it was to come in. And so if I'm a player,

630
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: if I am said four star receiver in Murphysboro, Tennessee,

631
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: and I'm set on Michigan, or even I'm sixty forty

632
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: fifty five to forty five in favor of Michigan. There's

633
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: no one that's about to turn me off from making

634
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: that decision because they tell me about my potential head

635
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: coaches buy out. This stuff's very overblown to me. I

636
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: challenge you, Now I could be wrong, who knows, but

637
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I challenge anyone over the next recruiting calendar year to

638
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: go find me a kid. Whether it's publicized behind the

639
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: scenes that you truly think Michigan missed out on because

640
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: someone negative recruited and they specifically used Harball's buyout figure,

641
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: and that truly carried weight in the living room to

642
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: the point where it deterred a kid from going to Michigan.

643
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: I think it's overblown. I don't think that's the way

644
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: that's going to happen. We move on Mood Tracker time.

645
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: This is a mood track that I've been looking forward

646
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: to getting to. So the Mood Tracker Tonight takes us

647
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: to Fayetteville, Arkansas. Arkansas is one of our most loyal

648
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: viewer basis on this entire show. We absolutely love the

649
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Arkansas Razorback fan base. We have not been to a

650
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: game in Fayetteville. That's on us. That is a character

651
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: flaw for the show. It's not their fault, it's our fault.

652
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: It's not them, it's us. But let's talk about the

653
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: mood Tracker tonight. To be clear, this is just us

654
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: taking a thermometer and sticking it right in the middle

655
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: of the fan base. Not sure which orifice, Not important

656
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: right now in the grand scheme of things. What is

657
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: the temperature in Fayetteville, Arkansas. This program, this Arkansas program,

658
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: is the poster child for why we do the mood

659
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: Tracker segment, and I'm going to tell you why. It

660
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: helps to see things from the fan base's point of view.

661
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: But it also it helps to see through one of

662
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: the big lies in college football. We just talked about

663
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: this forty eight hours ago. One of the big lies.

664
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: In fact, the biggest lie in college football is you

665
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. Well, if you

666
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: don't believe that, let's take a look at Arkansas. Arkansas

667
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the you are what your record tells you are crowd

668
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: would classify as a four lost team. They just lost

669
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: four games in the regular season. They finished nine and four. Now,

670
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: four losses is nothing to write home about, right, I mean,

671
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: that's a middle of the road program. They don't take

672
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: into account strength of schedule, They don't take into account

673
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: program expectation, level of where they are in the overall

674
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of arc of if you're building a program, if

675
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: you've had sustained excellence already, there's a lot of context

676
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: that has to be included after you give me your

677
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: win loss record. Not to mention, if you look at

678
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: the schedule here on YouTube, you played Texas before Texas

679
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: knew they were subpar. You played Georgia, You played a

680
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: and M, You played Ole Miss, you played Auburn, You

681
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: had to play Bama at LSU gets some ridiculous schedule.

682
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: They went nine to four. Okay, but let's ignore all that.

683
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: Let's just go back to the you are what your

684
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: record says, you are? Crowd? How do you square a

685
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: four lost team with the mood around Arkansas. I went

686
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: over on hogsports dot com hogw the w earlier today

687
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: and I hit up our friends over there, and I said,

688
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: you got to fill in the blank for me, you know,

689
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: the drill. My current mood towards Arkansas football is what now.

690
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: These are not outsider opinions. These are the opinions of

691
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Arkansas fans. These are some of the answers I got. Excited, confident, electric, aggressive, optimistic,

692
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that one was too sexual, That one was too sexual. Okay,

693
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: so the rest of them are too sexual. The point

694
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: is they're really really excited and fade well about the

695
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: future of Arkansas football. I went four pages on that thread.

696
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: I didn't get a single negative response. The worst was like,

697
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic. So you tell me if you are what

698
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: your record says you are. This team just dropped four games.

699
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Why is there unbridled excitement, the likes of which you

700
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: only find normally in the corners of the sec that

701
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: rhyme with Buscaloosa and fethons. It's because they know what

702
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: they have, and I want you to think about the

703
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: combination of what they have, because they've got a combination

704
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: of three things there in Arkansas. It's pretty rare. You

705
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: don't find this very often in college football. They're getting

706
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: what they want with who they want, and they're doing

707
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: it the way they want. How many programs can say

708
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: that in all of college football? How many programs can

709
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: honestly say they're getting what they want, and they're doing

710
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: it with who they want at the helm, and they're

711
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: also doing it the way they want to. That's Arkansas

712
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: football right now. You want to know why they're so excited.

713
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: You want to know why the mood up there ranges

714
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: from electric to optimistic to aggressive to some things I

715
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: can't say on air. It's because they have all those

716
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: three boxes checked. But here's what else you need to know.

717
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Because you may just live in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and

718
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: you're a big ten fan and you've seen a couple

719
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: of Arkansas games, but you really don't get what all

720
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: is noise about Sam Pittman and Arkansas. What is this

721
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: all about? Well, I'll tell you it's very much a

722
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: case by case basis. When a local fan base is

723
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: excited about their program. So sometimes it's pure bluster, you know.

724
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's blind faith and it's just blind hope because

725
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: what's the alternative, you know, So they know what their

726
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: alternative is, and so they're just buying in. They're hoping

727
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: against hope. This is not that, This is not blind confidence.

728
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: The traction at Arkansas, the energy at Arkansas, it's real

729
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: and it's real. But the national public is going to

730
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: be a long way behind the Arkansas fan base in

731
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: realizing why this is very much going to be a

732
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: tail wagging the dog situation. Arkansas fans knew early on

733
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: what they had. Arkansas folks know good and well what

734
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: they have, and like I said, they got what they want,

735
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: and they got who they want, and they're doing it

736
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: the way they want. The rest of the country is

737
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: going to be slow to come around, whether it be

738
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: media or just casual college football fans, because of the

739
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: unconventional nature of the hire. Most people, even though we're

740
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: a couple three years in now, at this point, most

741
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: people haven't gotten over Sam Pittman having an opportunity to

742
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: be a head coach. Now, Arkansas fans actually may think

743
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm wrong about that, but I got a pretty good

744
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: gauge on the rest of the nation. Believe it or not,

745
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: there's some people who still aren't sold on Sam Pittman.

746
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: You guys are, of course, as you should be. You're

747
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: in Jones Bro, you get it. You're in I don't know, Tempe, Arizona.

748
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: Maybe not quite yet because Sam Pittman has never graced

749
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: one of those head coaching power rating lists. Whenever you

750
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: saw the hot candidates out there a few years ago

751
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: when all those jobs were open. Sam Pittman's name wasn't

752
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: on any of them, and yet boom, he gets an

753
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: SEC job. So the next thing people say is, well,

754
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: he's obviously going to be overwhelmed. I mean, he's not

755
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: even been a coordinator, an offensive line coach. Is going

756
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: to go up against the likes of Nick Saban and

757
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: who at the time, Edwar's are on and Jimbo Fisher. Well,

758
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: the answer is yep, that's pretty much what he's done.

759
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Some of those coaches aren't around anymore. Sam Pittman is,

760
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: and I think he will be for a while. They

761
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: at Arkansas have something that's intangible in nature. So I'll

762
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: try to explain it as best I can. Arkansas is

763
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: going to continue to probably ascend because Arkansas is going

764
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: to contend. Well, yeah, I'll call him contenders. That's so

765
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: we'll go with that. Arkansas and Sam Pittman are going

766
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: to continue to ascend because they're going to continue to

767
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: have what I call the winning ten. You take everything

768
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: it takes to win in college football. You take nutrition

769
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: and strength, the conditioning, the coaching staff, proper development, both

770
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: neck up and neck down. Then you got to execute,

771
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: and you gotta have good play calling. But even if

772
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: you add all of those elements up, it only equals

773
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: about ninety percent. There's this other ten percent in this sport,

774
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: and it bothers people so much. It bothers the stat crowd.

775
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: They can't explain it because you can't quantify it. There

776
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: is no metric you can put on it. But everybody

777
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: who's played and everyone whose coach knows exactly what I'm

778
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: talking about. There is something that makes up the final

779
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: ten percent of your program. It can be rotten or

780
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: it can be golden. A lot of people think it's luck.

781
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: It's not luck. It's why the same programs continue to

782
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: seemingly get lucky and some other programs continue to suffer

783
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: from bad luck. It's not luck. It's just not quantifiable.

784
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: But there is an IT factor in the way you

785
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: go about building a cure. There's an IT factor that

786
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: is baked into the foundation on which your program's built.

787
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Arkansas's got it, So that final ten percent, whatever that

788
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: it is, they've got it at Arkansas, and it's not

789
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: going anywhere because they're already in the building phase. They've

790
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: already gotten past the foundation laying. Now we just kind

791
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: of find out what house they're going to build on it.

792
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: So if you wanted to know my mood on Arkansas,

793
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I would call it kind of dreaming, but designing as well.

794
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Anybody can dream. The easiest thing in the world to

795
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: do is have goals. Do you have a rock solid

796
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: plan in place to achieve them? Like, do you have

797
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: something that I could look at on a piece of

798
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: paper and say, oh, actually that makes sense. They've got

799
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: that at Arkansas right now. And they're also a winner

800
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: in the Transfer portal. We did a segment earlier tonight.

801
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: You know, when we do the final transfer portal winners

802
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: and losers, I'm fully confident Arkansas is going to be

803
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: on there because I don't really think they're done yet,

804
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, So I think that we're

805
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: going to wait until post spring to talk about them.

806
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: But you look at the portal editions already on your

807
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: screen right now. Drew Sanders. Sanders was starting for Alabama

808
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: last year. The only reason he's not starting there still

809
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: is because he got banged up and it just so

810
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: happened that they had a complete freak by the name

811
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: of Dallas Turner on the sideline and took his place.

812
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: There's only one program in America where Drew Sanders would

813
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: have lost his job and ended up transferring from, and

814
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: that's Alabama. Arkansas got one of the better players in

815
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the country in Drew Sanders. Make no mistake about that.

816
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: It's not spoiled or damaged goods or anything like that.

817
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: It was a unique situation. Where did the kid choose

818
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: to go. He didn't choose to go to one of

819
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: the perceived perennial powerhouses. He went to Arkansas. Jane Hazelwood

820
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: could have gone a number of places. He went to Arkansas.

821
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys are choosing Arkansas. Coaches are

822
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: choosing to remain at Arkansas. And look, even if and

823
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: when they eventually lose some that's going to be a destination,

824
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: a very secret one. Like I said, college football public's

825
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: going to be slow to come around on Arkansas. That

826
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: place is becoming a destination for players and for coaches.

827
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: And you've got that in place, You've got that magic

828
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: formula to finish that final ten percent that it takes

829
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to be a long term sustained winner in this sport.

830
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: They've got it. And you know, Sam Pittman in the

831
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: summer months, instead of going on the clinic circuit, he

832
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: ought to just do final ten percent talks. That's what

833
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: he ought to do. Start a YouTube channel, say if

834
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: you need an extra ten or twenty thousand dollars a year.

835
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's our show for tonight, So appreciate you watching.

836
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,840
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837
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,800
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838
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839
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840
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841
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842
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Speaker 1: by that. Subscriptions, five star reviews on the pod. Appreciate

843
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: you guys so much for direct column. For producer Jesse,

844
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Fate and the production executives. We're out of here.

845
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Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great start to the weekend. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you again here same time Sunday night. A couple us