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Speaker 1: welcome in to our Friday morning podcast. Eli Manning, Chad Millman.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait first though, fake questions, real answers, things

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about. Don't want to wait for

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Speaker 1: you to ask me, dud Colin, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of James Harden forcing his way to another team? Well,

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Speaker 1: James Harden isn't the best teammates, but the NBA is

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Speaker 1: don't know seven or eight players in the league that

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Speaker 1: gave up Seth Curry Andre Drummond. Really you think those

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Speaker 1: playoff series. In terms of the draft picks, what does

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Speaker 1: it mean? You ever watch American Idol? You have all

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Speaker 1: those contestants, but about every year there's maybe two super

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Speaker 1: even the good ones will never do more than maybe

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Speaker 1: headline a carnival cruise. That's the NBA draft. You get

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Speaker 1: that can contribute. Dear Colin, what do you think is

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Speaker 1: going through Kevin Durant's mind? Well, first of all, he'd

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Speaker 1: Think about this, if I said to you, who are

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Speaker 1: world is flat anti vaxer, couldn't I argue James Harden

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Speaker 1: He left Steph Curry and Clay Thompson arguably in terms

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Speaker 1: don't want Aaron Rodgers to win an MVP because he's unvaxed.

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Speaker 1: postseason for most valuable. In other industries, they're always changing

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Speaker 1: metrics to improve accuracy. In music, Billboard, Billboard changed the

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Speaker 1: want to stay connected all your devices, your tablets, your phone,

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Speaker 1: you're gaming, you're smart TVs verizing, five g ultra y bands,

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Speaker 1: A way to go. Thanks for including me in this bud. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun kylin you're the best man. From

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning to Chad Millman, the chief content officer the

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Speaker 1: Action Network. All right, let's start with the simple stuff.

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Speaker 1: If it was four and a half five, I probably

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Speaker 1: take the Bengals. I went and looked at the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in the RAMS scores. Eighteen of the twenty Bengal games

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Speaker 1: were close. They were blown out by Cleveland and lost

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Speaker 1: a lot of jump balls, and were kind of whacked

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Speaker 1: at home with the Chargers. But overwhelmingly they played good teams,

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Speaker 1: very tight win or lose, Green Bay, Tennessee, San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: So it tells you that's probably the side to be on.

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Speaker 1: But I can't get past this. They feel like the

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Speaker 1: Bengals feel like a sixth seed in March Madness. They

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Speaker 1: went a couple of buzzer beaters. There's a clearly momentum,

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Speaker 1: which is a powerful device. But they're going to meet

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Speaker 1: a number one seed. It's going to feel like a

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Speaker 1: one or two. They're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: block the Rams front and I feel like it's going

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Speaker 1: to get ugly. And I know what's square, but sometimes

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Speaker 1: just don't you just like a matchup. You're totally entitled

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Speaker 1: to like the matchup if that's where your head is at.

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Speaker 1: It is not an easy game to handicap. And I

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Speaker 1: will tell you when the line opened to three and

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Speaker 1: a half and was immediately bet to four by professional betters,

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Speaker 1: that was showing you that they liked the Rams a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And the professional betters have liked the Rams

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Speaker 1: all year. They liked them for Super Bowl futures, they

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Speaker 1: liked them to win their division, they liked them to

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Speaker 1: win the conference. So by them betting at the three

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Speaker 1: and a half, you were basically seeing them backing their

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Speaker 1: opinion that had been established all year long. So the

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Speaker 1: first half of the week professional betters were betting on

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Speaker 1: the Rams. But then the number got to four and

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Speaker 1: a half, and then the professional betters came in on

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and you started to see them money even

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Speaker 1: out a little bit, So now you're basically getting the

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Speaker 1: better as you see where the line of demarcation is,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, four and a half

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Speaker 1: is where they definitively like the Bengals. Three and a

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Speaker 1: half is where they definitively like the Rams, and at

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Speaker 1: four it's a matchup game. You like the Rams, I

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Speaker 1: like the Bengals'. It's that opinion. I think i'd take

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Speaker 1: the under. I think the game will be quick. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals are proficient at running. The Rams aren't necessarily the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks because it's the Niners and Bucks run defense,

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Speaker 1: they were very proficient running the ball against Arizona. I

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Speaker 1: think the game shrinks. I think there's more running than

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Speaker 1: we think. I think it's a quick game. I think

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Speaker 1: it's mostly well played. I don't think there are as

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Speaker 1: many big plays over the top because I think both

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Speaker 1: secondaries are highly capable. So I would take the under.

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Speaker 1: Sharper square that is totally sharp and opened at forty

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Speaker 1: nine and a half. It got bet down to forty

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Speaker 1: eight and a half. It's been sitting there, but that

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Speaker 1: is the side that the wise guys are betting. I

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Speaker 1: do want to go back to some of your calculus

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals discounting the close games they've played and

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Speaker 1: saying that it feels like a sixth seed in March

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Speaker 1: Madness and that they're not as good as what they're

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Speaker 1: showing on the field. I would say that would be

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Speaker 1: true if they only did it during the playoffs, but

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Speaker 1: you set it yourself. Eighteen of twenty games, the team

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Speaker 1: keeps games close. And the problem with betting against the

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Speaker 1: Bengals in a spot like this isn't because you think

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Speaker 1: the Rams are going to win the game. They are

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Speaker 1: the better team. It's why they're favored. They were the

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Speaker 1: better team all year long. They have the better quarterback

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Speaker 1: by a percentage, They dominate on the defensive line, and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive line isn't that great. So what happens

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Speaker 1: is you get the Bengals down big, and when the

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Speaker 1: game gets closer to the end, that's when the Bengals

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Speaker 1: consistently find ways to use their explosiveness to get into

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Speaker 1: the end zone. So I'm not betting because I think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are the better team. I'm betting because I

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Speaker 1: think the Bengals are going to be able to find

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Speaker 1: a way to keep this game close, either through sixty

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Speaker 1: minutes or in the last three minutes. Let's talk receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham over under sixty two and a half, Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase seventy eight and a half. Cooper Cup one oh five.

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Speaker 1: That's a big number for Cup and he's terrific. But

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Speaker 1: I do like the safety play by the Bengals. I

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Speaker 1: probably bet the under on Cooper Cup. That's of the

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Speaker 1: three that looks like the play. Your thoughts, So the

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup specifically, I'm not going to deflect. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give you my thoughts. But the Cooper Cup receiving

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Speaker 1: totals across the board are the biggest liability the sports

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Speaker 1: books have in this Super Bowl. It's not a side,

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Speaker 1: it's not a total. They have been getting hammered from

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Speaker 1: the second these props opened on Cooper Cup overs, and

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Speaker 1: I'm in that camp. I didn't bet his over total

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Speaker 1: receiving yards. I haven't bet his over receptions, but I

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Speaker 1: did bet Cooper Cup over twenty eight and a half

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Speaker 1: for longest reception because he's so good at yards after

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Speaker 1: the catch, and the Bengals defensive secondary, the way they

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Speaker 1: play defense, it allows for him to be in matchups

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Speaker 1: to be in open space and find opportunities to do that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that the market is getting priced out

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the numbers you just talked about

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Speaker 1: for O'Dell, for Cooper Cup, for Jamar Chase. What I

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Speaker 1: do like a lot Te Higgins over about sixty nine

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Speaker 1: and a half receiving yards Tyler boyd Over, I forgot

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Speaker 1: the number of receptions, but I like him for receptions.

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Speaker 1: I do think that you get to the second and

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Speaker 1: third tier of receivers for the Bengals, and I like

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Speaker 1: that a lot because the Rams defensive secondary is very

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Speaker 1: bad covering. They play a lot of his own and

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Speaker 1: they leave a lot of open space and rod the field,

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Speaker 1: which is where those two I tend to be an

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Speaker 1: under better more than an over better because I think

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Speaker 1: the public likes overs. So in rushing yards, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go away because in passing yards Burrow and Staff

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Speaker 1: or Burrow two hundred and sixty seven and a half

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Speaker 1: yards Staff or two eighty one and a half, I'd

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Speaker 1: go under on both. But I do like the over

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Speaker 1: on rushing yards with both mix and at sixty and

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Speaker 1: a half and cam Akers especially at sixty four and

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Speaker 1: a half because I do. I have a feeling of

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to see, and I think I think

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Speaker 1: both running backs are going to have really, really strong days.

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Speaker 1: I also believe there's always a feeling out process and

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, especially for a young team like Cincinnati. And

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Speaker 1: even though they throw the ball down field, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many downfield throws with that Rams defensive front

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Speaker 1: you can make. I think you're gonna have to use

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Speaker 1: that with discretion or Joe Burrow's gonna have a long afternoon.

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Speaker 1: So I really do believe running backs will I would

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Speaker 1: go over on those rushing yards. Sharper square totally sharp,

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Speaker 1: and I think it correlates to a lot of the

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Speaker 1: things that we talked about, especially if you're a Bengals

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Speaker 1: better right eight The one area where you can definitively

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Speaker 1: say I think the Bengals have the advantage from a

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Speaker 1: position grouping point of view. Is it running back. Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon's just a better running back than anyone else the

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Speaker 1: Rams have in their backfield right now. Can makers maybe

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Speaker 1: one day, but not three games back from a blown Achilles,

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Speaker 1: So you have the advantage there. If you think this

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Speaker 1: game is going to go under, if you think the

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Speaker 1: piece of play is going to be quick. If you

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Speaker 1: think that there's not going to be a lot of stoppages,

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Speaker 1: that it's going to be a low scoring game, that

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Speaker 1: plays into both of these guys going over there rushing

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Speaker 1: year totals. If you think the game is likely to

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Speaker 1: be close, which I do with the Bengals, then that

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Speaker 1: plays enter into these guys going over their rushing year totals.

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Speaker 1: So I can't argue. The market can't argue. The professionals

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Speaker 1: can't argue. From a professional point of view. Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: at plus fifteen hundred, I think a lot of times

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Speaker 1: with MVPs it can be statistical, but we also vote

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Speaker 1: for stories. You know, some of this stuff is and

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to look at listen new announcers

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Speaker 1: that talk a lot about Aaron Donald. I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a big part of the broadcast. A

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Speaker 1: lot of RAMS players are really doing this for Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford pointed it out, and I do think there's

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Speaker 1: a romance to the great defensive player who's been here before,

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Speaker 1: who's been a dominant player who doesn't have one. Usually

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Speaker 1: that player is an offensive player. So the MVP favorites

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Speaker 1: the FanDuel odds. I think Aaron Donald at plus fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred is interesting to me. What say you? I say

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit square, and that the odds reflect

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Speaker 1: what bookmakers know. The market is thinking that this is

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Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald narrative super Bowl and that he is

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Speaker 1: the guy. Look, I'm I'm prone to it too, right.

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Speaker 1: You and I are old people who have been doing

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Speaker 1: this forever. We should be jaded. But I like the

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Speaker 1: idea of Aaron Donald winning the Super Bowl. I'm partial

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Speaker 1: to the Rams winning even though I have the Bengals

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Speaker 1: of plus four, because I think I like the narrative

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Speaker 1: when a player who is best in class in his

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Speaker 1: position historically, I like when they win the title. I

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Speaker 1: like when they have the satisfaction. I just root for

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Speaker 1: people to be happy, right, just what I do. I'm

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Speaker 1: for people being happy. I want you to win, too, column.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the odds on Aaron Donalds are very good.

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Speaker 1: I think I do think the defense is where the

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Speaker 1: value is for MVP Jalen Ramsey closer to eighty two

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Speaker 1: hundred and one. Von Miller further down the list, Leonard

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Speaker 1: Floyd think about this right, All the attention being paid

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Speaker 1: to Von Miller, to Aaron Donald learn Floyd is a

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Speaker 1: pretty great defensive end who can get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So the opportunity to get him when everyone else is

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Speaker 1: paying attention to the other two guys is where I

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Speaker 1: think the value is. If you had a final score prediction,

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Speaker 1: you like the under you you're kind of telling me

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you'd be twenty six twenty three rams

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Speaker 1: kind of where you're at if you think it's close.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's in that range. I think

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking twenty four twenty one rams like a

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Speaker 1: because that gives me a comfortable cushion against the forty

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Speaker 1: eight and a half, and I won't be sweating it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. But I just think

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Speaker 1: that these are two teams who they're going to play

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Speaker 1: it close to the vest, and I expect there to

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Speaker 1: be an opportunity for the Bengals to be in a

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Speaker 1: position to win it late in the game. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they will, but I think they're gonna have the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: all right. Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer, very low key

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Speaker 1: effort today by both of us, because we've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot of these odds and we're you know, we're not

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Speaker 1: messing around now. Was legistus is business Colin where four

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Speaker 1: days from the game, we've had two weeks to prepare.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to, Daria Daly, give the people the information, like,

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Speaker 1: let them go make their bets. These lines might move

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Speaker 1: a little bit based on what we're saying. They better

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Speaker 1: go get him now, because that's where the opportunity is.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to entertain just to entertain. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming to the Volume party in West Hollywood. We

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Speaker 1: didn't even talk about the party. It was pretty cool, dude,

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Speaker 1: I know, I hell that. Listen as we've discussed this, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm in La a week. This is one of the

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Speaker 1: first times I've been on an extended business trip on

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Speaker 1: a plane like during COVID, and that was a real

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Speaker 1: to do that party. It was a ridiculous house, a

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Speaker 1: great scene. The pool looked fantastic with the Volume logo.

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Speaker 1: Your wife looked beautiful. We had a great conversation the

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Speaker 1: magician who did that card trip for me and you

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Speaker 1: and your wife. Oh my god, but that was insane. Magician.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand magic. I don't get it. Be scared

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Speaker 1: of it. I don't even want to get it. I

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Speaker 1: just I'm going to enjoy it as I get older.

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Speaker 1: I could get run over by a ups truck tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Just entertain me. I'm not going to try to figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Just make me happy. Who I mean, Look,

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Speaker 1: that party was packed. There were people I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know they were in la who I saw at that

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Speaker 1: party last night. It was great. And also it was

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Speaker 1: just fun because there was good business being done at

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Speaker 1: the party, and like, there were three or four people

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Speaker 1: that I saw who I needed to have a conversation with.

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Speaker 1: And in the pandemic world, that conversation is Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: a text, then it's a follow up, then it's a calendar,

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Speaker 1: then it's a zoo and literally the conversation could be

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Saw them last night. Hey I'm thinking about this,

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Speaker 1: Hey me too. All right, it's done. You were making

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Speaker 1: business happen last night. That's right, I was. There were

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Speaker 1: bags being exchanged, yeah, metaphorically. Okay, who can you share

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Speaker 1: with me your most interesting conversation with someone last night?

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Speaker 1: Cabon Thibadeau, the defensive end for Oregon. What was the conversation?

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Speaker 1: He thinks he's going to the New York giants interesting?

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Speaker 1: Are you breaking news right now? Shit? It's what I do.

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Speaker 1: I make people money, and I'm sorry. That's what I do. Know.

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Speaker 1: Thibada was an interesting player. He's got a really he

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Speaker 1: would fit in New York. He's got a big personality.

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Speaker 1: He went to Oaks Christian out in California. It's a

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Speaker 1: very kind of a lot of wealth and you know,

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Speaker 1: famous kids, famous dad's kids, and and he's big, like

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Speaker 1: he went. He would go to New York and feel

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Speaker 1: like New York can. He would be lost in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: He feels like somebody that should play in LA or

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Speaker 1: New York or Chicago. He really does. There you go.

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Speaker 1: It was my story right. It was a good party.

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Speaker 1: It was a good hang. See you buddy, seeing man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The volume