WEBVTT - Music Saved Me | BLKBOK | Neoclassical pianist.

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<v Speaker 1>Music Saved Me.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I can say about the

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit music scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that if you enter it, it's like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Family, and that family perspective is part of the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that helped me developed not only as a musician, but

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<v Speaker 2>as a person, and also helped prevent me from getting

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<v Speaker 2>into some of the pitfalls that exists in being from

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<v Speaker 2>an urban environment. I can remember in the day, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my teachers will call me and say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>are you coming down to sit in with us tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time I would get the same

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<v Speaker 2>call from my homies and they would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go do something stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the good thing is that I chose music.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Lynn Hoffman and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 3>Music Saved Me Podcast, where we showcase the force of

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<v Speaker 3>nature that we know in our lives called music. Our

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<v Speaker 3>guest is a neo classical pianist who's performed with the

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<v Speaker 3>likes of Rihanna and Justin Timberlake. Black Bawk knows the

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<v Speaker 3>power of music firsthand, growing up as a child prodigy

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<v Speaker 3>in the inner city of Detroit. So first, welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Tell everyone who you are and how has

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<v Speaker 3>music saved you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Well, yes, music has saved me so many times.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is black Back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a neoclassical composer and pianist from Detroit, Michigan. And

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<v Speaker 2>that being said alone, being from Detroit, Michigan, music was

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<v Speaker 2>something that saved me a bit from the environment that

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<v Speaker 2>I was born and raised in. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I can say about the Detroit music scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that if you enter it, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a family, and that family perspective is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that helped me developed not only as a

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<v Speaker 2>musician but as a person, and also helped prevent me

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<v Speaker 2>from getting into some of the pitfalls that exists being

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<v Speaker 2>from an urban environment. I can remember in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my teachers will call me and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>are you coming down to sit in with us tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>And at the same time I would get the same

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<v Speaker 2>call from my homies and they would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go do something stupid. And you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like this sort of choice of which one would I choose,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the good thing is that I chose music.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that music was the thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>The vehicle that could get me from one environment and

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<v Speaker 2>could allow me to see the world, which it did.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when we speak about.

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<v Speaker 2>Mental health, and that has always been something that has

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<v Speaker 2>been a challenge for I think everyone. I always have

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<v Speaker 2>this quote that I say, which is, this world is

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<v Speaker 2>so complex that you need therapy. The reason why we

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<v Speaker 2>need therapy is that you need someone else to help

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of navigate the pitfalls of life.

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<v Speaker 1>This life has become very complex. For me. Therapy and

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<v Speaker 1>music have been kind of one and the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have had external therapy, but the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I am able to express myself and have an outlet

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<v Speaker 2>is through music my writing. I think that music has

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<v Speaker 2>saved me time and time again, and not only just

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<v Speaker 2>in a physical way, but I said a mental and

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual way because of that strong connection to being a

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<v Speaker 2>creative and dodging some of the things that could potentially

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<v Speaker 2>be detrimental to my life.

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<v Speaker 3>So you feel music has therapeutic and healing forces.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>How has music impacted you, you know at a particularly

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<v Speaker 3>challenging time in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can talk about twenty twenty, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>challenging time for all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Being that you know it was the beginning of.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID in the lockdown and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>kept me sort of kept the balance of my life

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<v Speaker 2>during that crazy time was music. I wrote my first album,

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<v Speaker 2>Black Book, during that period, and the thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>very cool was that I was able to do it

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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred and twenty one consecutive days. So music

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<v Speaker 2>was the thing that kind of every day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>while so many people were kind of going crazy, going

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<v Speaker 2>what do I do? I went, let me focus on music.

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<v Speaker 2>Music is going to be the thing that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep me very much balanced throughout this crazy process, and

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of worked. One hundred and twenty one consecutive days.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple months later, I signed a record deal and

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<v Speaker 2>the rest is ancient history.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, congratulations on all that good focus. That's pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does it mean to have your music profoundly

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<v Speaker 3>impact others?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's the reason that I do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that I do music is as an act

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<v Speaker 2>of service. It's important to me that that I'm putting

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<v Speaker 2>something into the world that represents love, that represents kindness,

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<v Speaker 2>that represents healing, that represents being emotionally just level.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, that's the goal, you know, that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>number one goal.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that musicians have a great power, and to

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<v Speaker 2>use that power in a way that is of service

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<v Speaker 2>to others is exactly why we were given the power

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>So my music is all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say that I want to be a walking

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<v Speaker 2>embodiment of what love is, and I want my music

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<v Speaker 2>to be a reflection of that walking embodiment of love.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that embodiment of love and great power. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>is there a particular musical genre or artists or bands

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<v Speaker 3>that have impacted you in certain situations that you found yourself, then.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of them have impacted me. Each genre

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<v Speaker 2>has impacted me in a different way. Initially a hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop kid from the West Side of Detroit, I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up listening to R and B and motown. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>jazz was very influential in my life, but I started

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<v Speaker 2>playing classical at the age of four, so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>been this whole mix up of everything. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>if more people listen to more, the more you expand

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<v Speaker 2>your listening, the more you're able to tap into different

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<v Speaker 2>emotions that come from different pieces of music. Sometimes people

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends that have you know, been in the

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<v Speaker 2>same room with me listening to something like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Celtic music, and they're like, what are you listening to?

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<v Speaker 2>Saying you don't understand, you don't feel. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>just take a moment to feel what the story is

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. And each drama gives you a different piece

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<v Speaker 2>of information and that information can be used to be healing,

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<v Speaker 2>or to be uplift thing, or to tell a story.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what music is for, is to bring us

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<v Speaker 2>out of our element and into someone else's world and

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<v Speaker 2>to allow us to see and view and witness a

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<v Speaker 2>different world.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. How does expression on social issues impact

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<v Speaker 3>your view of music?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, My music is very much based around social social

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<v Speaker 1>issues and the impact that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that many composers from you know, very long

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<v Speaker 2>ago did the same thing. They wrote about the things

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<v Speaker 2>that were affecting them in their daily lives and affecting

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<v Speaker 2>the people around them. I think that as a composer,

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<v Speaker 2>it is important that we begin to see and address

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<v Speaker 2>the things that matter, the social issues.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right now, I'm very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Affected by this mass shooting community. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that we have going on in America

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I think, you know, something needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>said about it, And who better than someone who's tapped

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<v Speaker 2>into this source of energy like music to speak about it? So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I consider that my job and my duty.

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<v Speaker 3>How important is a sense of humor that you convey

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<v Speaker 3>in your music can storytelling?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a funny yuay. I'd just like to laugh

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those people, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Charlie Chaplin said if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>a day without laughter is a wasted day. Or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just that same way, Like, if I'm not laughing, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a waste, you know. Like I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>very important at storytelling. I think humor plays a very

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<v Speaker 2>big part of telling. Any story is a way to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of break up the story. If it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>serious story, that's definitely a way to kind of break

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<v Speaker 2>up the action and have a little fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta laugh. I love it all right. Here's a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy one. What do you think the world would be

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<v Speaker 3>like without music?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>The world wouldn't exist without music. I mean everything is vibration.

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<v Speaker 2>What we see around us our reflections of vibrations. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the world is built upon music. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>is music. There's no substance that exists without vibration, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the organization of vibration and air is

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<v Speaker 2>what we call.

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<v Speaker 1>Music, and it's sort of the substance that allows humans

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<v Speaker 1>to be human.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anyone that you'll ever meet that

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<v Speaker 2>says I don't like music.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people will say they don't like a certain genre.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't like country, maybe I don't like classical,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't like rap.

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<v Speaker 1>But you never hear anyone say I don't like music.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's a a central part of our

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<v Speaker 2>human experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Must have been a few years ago that I heard

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<v Speaker 4>of Black Boy and started to get a little familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with his music. But it wasn't until I joined the

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<v Speaker 4>Pistons six months ago in terms of a career changed

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<v Speaker 4>for me. And you know, our past cross professionally, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was familiar with his work, just kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>reacquainted and re introduced to his music in a much

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<v Speaker 4>more personal way. Ever since I discovered his work, I've

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<v Speaker 4>I've just kind of been taken back by it. It

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<v Speaker 4>is powerful, you know, his music in general is just

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<v Speaker 4>it's brilliant in so many different ways. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>just sum up so quickly. Every time he gets behind

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<v Speaker 4>the piano, it's you're going to feel something. You're probably

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<v Speaker 4>going to feel multiple things. And when it's done, when

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<v Speaker 4>he finishes, it's just it's very powerful. You feel like

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<v Speaker 4>you just heard a story or experienced the story and

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<v Speaker 4>one word hasn't been spoken, you know. And I just

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<v Speaker 4>think it's it's really powerful his music, how it acts

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<v Speaker 4>as a storyteller without using words.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it feel when one of your fans connects

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<v Speaker 3>with you regarding your music?

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<v Speaker 2>Those moments are so very special, And the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I find is that they're so individualized, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there may be other artists that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone says the same thing as another person, as another

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<v Speaker 2>person other person. I think that I've never heard the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing twice. It's amazing that music with no words

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<v Speaker 2>can convey such a message and can allow the mind

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<v Speaker 2>to travel in a way that creates an environment where

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<v Speaker 2>someone's able to feel something, or express something, or experience

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<v Speaker 2>something that you know, the net person sitting next to

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<v Speaker 2>him is having a totally different experience. For me, that

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<v Speaker 2>that feedback from fans makes my day. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>understand that what I'm doing means.

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<v Speaker 1>Something, and that I'm on the right path and I

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<v Speaker 1>need to continue. I think that that, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's service.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And one more question, describe the spiritual component of music?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, the spiritual component.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably a very complex question to answer because

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<v Speaker 2>the spiritual component changes and shifts so rapidly between you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one composition or one piece of music in the next.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that I can say that they do have

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<v Speaker 2>in common is that I'm able to feel music in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that is beyond just my ears.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beyond just what I can see or what I

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<v Speaker 1>can hear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that hits my soul in a way, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're there's information that's being transferred very much.

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<v Speaker 1>The spiritual component for.

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<v Speaker 2>Me is that, you know, the music is the universal language,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hear that and I feel that and its abilities.

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<v Speaker 1>My ability to.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak that language also allows me to hear that language

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<v Speaker 2>in a different way. I think that every time I

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<v Speaker 2>listen to music, I don't just.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear it with my ears.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear it with my soul, and that allows me

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<v Speaker 2>again to be able to express that myself or tell

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<v Speaker 2>that story. I always say, I love that I've had

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<v Speaker 2>the highest highs and the lowest lows. Why Because now

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell a story of the highest highs in

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest lows, So that in itself is an expression

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<v Speaker 2>of how the spiritual component.

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<v Speaker 1>Of music affects me.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it from the very top to the very bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Bok, thank you so much for joining us today

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<v Speaker 3>on the Music Saved Me Podcast. Congratulations on all your

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<v Speaker 3>successes in life and in music.