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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: That is No Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual

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Speaker 1: exploration and power, written by yours truly and my co

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Speaker 1: host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y'all

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Speaker 1: get that. Now, let's get to this week's episode. This

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Speaker 1: is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of

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Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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Speaker 2: Yo Yo yo, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Back to Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B, where

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Speaker 1: we promise you one thing and possibly deliver another. Today

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Speaker 1: we told you all this episode was going to be

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Speaker 1: about sports and politics. Let me put up the air

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Speaker 1: quotes sports and politics, because not really, it's not usual

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Speaker 1: who's winning sports talk, but the sideways messy adjacent takes

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Speaker 1: that only we can deliver here, and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: some very special people to help me deliver those hot takes.

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Speaker 1: First up, we are talking Cam Newton's girlfriend slash third

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Speaker 1: Baby Mama with welcoming of the seventh Eighth Night, tenth

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Speaker 1: child I don't remember, but she says that she wants

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Speaker 1: to raise a son into a man that she's never had.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, women are out here openly making parenting transactional

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Speaker 1: like it's an NFT drop. Speaking of transactions, a tennis

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Speaker 1: player straight up says that you need to put down

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Speaker 1: a thousand dollar deposit just to take on a date. Now,

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Speaker 1: y'all know my thoughts on this is a prostitution is

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Speaker 1: a dating? Where are we in society? I do not know.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into it. And then on the

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Speaker 1: politics side, we're getting into culture wars. Trump is calling

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Speaker 1: the Smithsonian two woke, and I have my thoughts and

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Speaker 1: experiences from my stop at the African American Museum. Coming later,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about scrubbing history like it's an Instagram feed.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile, Black folks, don't ever let anyone tell you

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Speaker 1: that we don't have power. Target just lost billions by

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Speaker 1: cutting their DEI program. Corporations are folded, market share is shifting,

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Speaker 1: and we're here to break it all down.

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Speaker 2: So buckle up.

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Speaker 1: It's today's episode of selective Ignorance, where we'll see which

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Speaker 1: one of my guests are more ignorant than the other.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm joined today by, of course, my super producer,

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Speaker 1: who is back a King aka easy A with the

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Speaker 1: curls out.

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Speaker 2: Listen they it's outside. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I walked in like mind you. I was like n

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Speaker 1: w O and w as from one of them little groups.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I was like New World Order?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Niggas attitude? Okay? And then I'm joined y'all today. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: it's giving the battle of I don't know the ignorance.

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Speaker 1: I have two of my really close friends, male friends

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Speaker 1: who I disagree often with. Y'all may know this first guy,

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Speaker 1: he's been on here before. We have Ish who likes

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Speaker 1: to just go by Ish and nothing else. Should I

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Speaker 1: say where y'all may know? Can I say where they

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm just going by the way you were introduced at

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Speaker 1: investment this weekend. It was just given Ish from Jersey

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Speaker 4: See what time it is. Let's see what time it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. No, I have my coffee and

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Speaker 1: this is like pire espresso. And then I am joined

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Speaker 1: by Barry, my good friend Barry, who is not normally

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Speaker 1: and critiqued everything I've done for about the last eight years.

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Speaker 1: And so somehow we're in the same city and I said,

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Speaker 1: As you guys have heard, Jason is not with us today.

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Speaker 1: No, not so so. Jason is shared a couple of

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Speaker 1: Mberschad Eyol, everything they do. I was a part of

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Speaker 2: I like them.

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Speaker 1: I really like them a lot as friends. I like

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Speaker 1: what they're doing the Internet, and people constantly have thoughts

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Speaker 2: Now hold on.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I don't like that they doing right

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Speaker 1: now is beeping with all these niggas. That is one thing.

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Speaker 1: But I do like what their platform stands for. I

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Speaker 1: invest Fest is kind of nicknamed aka Scamfest, and so

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Speaker 1: I want to know y'all's thoughts on why people call

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Speaker 1: it that, your thoughts on attending Barry, and then your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on being on stage with Tonight's conversations where we starting,

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Speaker 1: Where we starting. Do you believe it's a scam? Let's

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Speaker 4: I do not believe it's a scam at the EYO

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Speaker 4: level invest best level.

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Speaker 1: Agree do.

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Speaker 4: I think people that may be there are there for scamming,

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Speaker 4: learning how to do the scam, trying to possibly but you.

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Speaker 1: Believe Wait, people going there are there to learn how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because everybody's trying to get to the money quick. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: And then with anything you try to get to the

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Speaker 4: talked a lot about I had this time to stuff

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Speaker 4: don't want to do the true homework their favorite statement,

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Speaker 4: telling what you're gonna do, how you're gonna do, what's

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Speaker 4: your cause you're gonna take, And so then you're really

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Speaker 4: not You shouldn't even be there, No, honestly, because it's

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Speaker 4: there to learn. Is there? The network? Is there?

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Speaker 1: The gay Yeah?

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Speaker 4: If you think you just don't find a million dollars

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Speaker 1: I think that's what people think when they they say

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay my little one fifty for the ticket

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Speaker 1: And it's like, what what go ahead?

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Speaker 6: I think is insulting, right, I think it's insulting that

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Speaker 6: the black people are calling it Scamfest. Shout out to

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Speaker 6: their whole crew. They put twenty five thousand people in that.

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Speaker 2: Building and it looked that was crazy. It was it was.

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Speaker 6: I went I think I went through two three years now.

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Speaker 6: This is the most people they've ever had. That ship

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Speaker 2: That shit looked like a sea if people.

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Speaker 6: I've recently, well this was my first year speaking, but

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Speaker 6: I just think that what they've done over in less

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Speaker 2: Decade has changed culture.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: You can't deny what these guys have done. Prior to

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Speaker 6: with investing like that, like people who looked at stock

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Speaker 6: that stuff and made other black people from inner city

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Like, literally, I speak to some of these guys on

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Speaker 2: But yes, I mean illegally, no no, no, no, legally

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Speaker 6: There are some people that make money, but we don't

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Speaker 6: people didn't know who Robert Smith was prior to him

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Speaker 6: bunch of these black billionaires were or that they even existed.

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Speaker 6: So Rashad and them being twenty something, well thirty something

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Speaker 6: inner cities and stuff like that, you can't knock what

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Speaker 1: It's literally what I said. I relate what people have

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Speaker 1: to say about him best fest to how we saw

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Speaker 1: our community tear down essence, how we did roots picnic,

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Speaker 1: how we do all these things, and it's just like, damn,

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Speaker 1: y'all really don't want to see us excel. Our own

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Speaker 1: community almost hates when someone actually gets too successful or

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's frustrating because, like I say, if

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Speaker 1: we don't support the programs and things that we're creating

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Speaker 1: for our community, you think the white people are gonna

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Speaker 1: support it. You think those checks and dollars gonna keep

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Speaker 2: No, people are rooting for you while you're the underdog.

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Speaker 6: And just watch the documentary on the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: and it was crazy how they said when the Chiefs

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Speaker 6: like crazy, like yo, Patrick Mahomes, black quarterback, let's get it.

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Speaker 6: When they started winning and winning and winning, People's like, yo,

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Speaker 6: these motherfuckers win too much. I want them to lose.

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 2: His baby mother white, like they started just chilling.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: Just, you know, it's crazy. I've always experienced that. And

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Speaker 1: analogy here. It's I've always experienced that as a Duke fan,

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Speaker 1: like when Duke was constantly winning and things like that.

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Speaker 1: People hate the Patriots to save the Patriots, the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: like Boston, people hate winners. And it's so weird that

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Speaker 1: you want to root for people while they're the underdogs,

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Speaker 1: while they quote unquote suck, and then as soon as

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to support you anymore.

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Speaker 2: Underdog resonates with the masses.

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Speaker 1: Because every a lot of people are mediocre and suck average. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: they are. They don't want to admit to being mediocre.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to admit to being average. And when

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Speaker 6: To that's not fair because out of let's say, let's

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the people that they're now going

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Speaker 5: If we could keep the competitive spirit, you know, to

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Speaker 7: But the beef start when it gets personal.

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Speaker 2: Mark Cuban like publicly publicly this nigga's guts. I might

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Speaker 6: I might stop his daughter from getting in Stanford like

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Speaker 2: We will never Twitter know about it publicly. They're not

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Speaker 5: You stop somebody from going to Stanford. I mean that

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Speaker 6: And then now to publicly start going through this bullshit.

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Speaker 2: They hate that and it's discussing.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to let go what happens is and

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Speaker 6: I've been going to seminars literally for over twenty years.

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Speaker 6: do the one you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get, you gotta gain information and knowledge.

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Speaker 6: When you see these young dudes on the internet with

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Speaker 2: We see the result.

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Speaker 1: You don't see the work.

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Speaker 6: We don't see the work. When you see a mother

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying right, we don't see the countless hours

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Speaker 6: So we just jump online, Yo, these things are possible.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen in any business.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was about to say, I say that for

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Speaker 2: You gotta have something.

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Speaker 6: We see it in hip hop in the podcasting space.

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Speaker 6: Joe's been successful, Yeah, and they like, oh, if he

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Speaker 6: I know I could do it. Give me a mic,

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. I don't do that.

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Speaker 6: But no, I'm just saying, like any person thinks that, Yo,

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Speaker 6: and that's not true. And so we see that in business.

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Speaker 2: We see it. I'm smarter than him. You get what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Oh if he could do it, I know

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Speaker 1: Comparison is the thief of joy period.

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Speaker 4: And let me get one testimony for them. I did

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Speaker 4: All up.

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Speaker 2: It's a different energy.

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Speaker 1: It is it is.

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Speaker 4: It is people inspiring young no old men, women, notes, hints, cards, sharing,

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Speaker 1: You just have the people that didn't go to Essence

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Speaker 1: Fest had nothing but bad things to say about Essence Fest.

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Speaker 1: You weren't there. You weren't there and best fest. Bro,

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Speaker 1: go get your ticket next year. Get your ticket. This

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Speaker 1: Uh it should be talking real estate maybe next year

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Speaker 1: and not financial.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I want you to but I asked me to

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Speaker 2: go on. Okay, I'm like, are you crazy?

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Speaker 1: Not you was scared? Not you was care I need

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Speaker 6: That's not my bag. But no, he asked me, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, Yo, you gotta I'm not fucking with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you have thoughts. And so we have a segment

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Speaker 1: I have a clip I want to share. Can you

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Speaker 1: not la? I can't hear you laugh? Clip it's not

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Speaker 1: a quick little forty seconds here, okay, to ask.

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Speaker 4: You a controversial question me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sure, I don't because Flip just said that pro

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Speaker 8: but there's a clip going around of you saying that

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Speaker 4: There you go, here you go read.

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Speaker 6: It's the clip Selective Ignorance put out seventy seven times.

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Speaker 2: They just they just refrust. Listen to what they said. Well,

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Speaker 2: if they get the money, what they're wasted, you can

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Speaker 4: What about do you believe blackness reparations?

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Speaker 6: I think black people should get equity, and I think

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Speaker 6: the two are different.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 1: We get not everyone, not everyone, not everyone listens to

440
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Speaker 1: the JBIB.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that if we get reparations, it's going

442
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 6: we're gonna fear any better me personally, I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, even though you talked over your whole take, but

444
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Speaker 1: go ahead, do you, with all of the backlash with

445
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Speaker 1: maybe people sharing or giving you more information on their

446
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: thoughts that black people do need reparations, do you stand

447
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: on the fact that black people don't need reparations or

448
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Speaker 1: do you take it back with any further information that

449
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Speaker 1: you've learned since this clip went.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, I think that sometimes when we listen,

451
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 6: we listen immediately just to respond, and I think I

452
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Speaker 6: might have did a poor job in how I articulated

453
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Speaker 6: my thoughts because I know sometimes the shit is off

454
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 6: the cuff, like now, I think that, all right, let

455
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Speaker 6: me give you Amanda Sills just did this thing, ye.

456
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Speaker 2: And yeah, shout to her, she bodied it.

457
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Speaker 6: I think that in watching that, if I came off

458
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Speaker 6: how they came off, then I apologize wholeheartedly to everybody

459
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Speaker 6: in our community.

460
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Speaker 1: If you came off like conservatives.

461
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Speaker 2: Like that wasn't my intent.

462
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you've ever come off cross like that.

463
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Speaker 2: It's possible.

464
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Speaker 6: We're human like and again, pardon me, when you put

465
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Speaker 6: these mics in our faces and you're asking us questions

466
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Speaker 6: off the cuff.

467
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Speaker 2: Everybody got their days.

468
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Speaker 6: So it's days that I could convey my thoughts and

469
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Speaker 6: the other days I might.

470
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Speaker 2: Be, you know, all over the place a little bit.

471
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Speaker 6: I think that if I sounded like them, or if

472
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Speaker 6: I came off like them, that's definitely not my intent.

473
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Speaker 6: Like I wanted to reach through the computer and smack

474
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Speaker 6: some of them, right, that that wasn't my intent. Anybody

475
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 6: that knows me knows that I'm for us, one hundred

476
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Speaker 6: percent for us, like all day, every day.

477
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Speaker 1: But you don't want black people to get free money.

478
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Speaker 6: I think that the premise behind the money, not the

479
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 6: behind the money. I think that my personal opinion is

480
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Speaker 6: I want society to get get out of our.

481
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Speaker 2: Way and stop trying to hold us back, right.

482
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Speaker 6: And I think that if they give you a check,

483
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Speaker 6: that still does not stop the systemic stuff that is

484
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Speaker 6: taking place.

485
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Speaker 2: So I think that that it's not a cure.

486
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Speaker 8: Roll.

487
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Speaker 6: I don't think that it's a cure all Like just

488
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 6: throwing money at a problem doesn't solve the problem.

489
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Speaker 1: So I don't think reparations is meant to be a

490
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Speaker 1: cure all. When I when I even when I even

491
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Speaker 1: look at something that I can compare it to it

492
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Speaker 1: would be what people normally question regarding civil suits around

493
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: on sexual assault. Right, you're not curing You're not curing

494
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: the trauma that's been endured by being sexually assaulted when

495
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: you get a payment or settlement. But it's it's something

496
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Speaker 1: that makes the victim feel like justice was served or

497
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Speaker 1: that their restitution for what they went through. And so

498
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Speaker 1: reparations I think isn't a cure all for us to

499
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Speaker 1: be elevated into society, to even be comparable to white people.

500
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Speaker 1: But I think how people view it as our ancestors,

501
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: we as a people went through this, We should be

502
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Speaker 1: given this as a compensation for what we endure.

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Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not against that necessarily. I just think that,

504
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 6: in my opinion, it won't solve anything. I just don't

505
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Speaker 6: think that it would solve anything.

506
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Speaker 1: Do you think money solves anything?

507
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: While we're here, those can solve some things.

508
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Speaker 1: So giving our community money you think solves nothing?

509
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Speaker 6: Get I'm sorry, pardon me if you give. Let's just

510
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 6: come up with a dollar amount. Okay, sure, give every black.

511
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Speaker 1: So does that mean I get fifty? Maybe not?

512
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Speaker 2: My daddy Jamaican, you.

513
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Speaker 4: Got a little more't do me?

514
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Speaker 3: So?

515
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Speaker 6: But can we give every black person that can prove

516
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Speaker 6: that we are descending some slavery one hundred thousand dollars,

517
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Speaker 6: It still does not stop the powers that be from

518
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Speaker 6: shutting the doors in our face. Because if that is

519
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 6: the if that is the problem that we identify as

520
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Speaker 6: the problem, then I think we need to work to

521
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Speaker 6: solve that problem.

522
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Speaker 2: And I think money does not solve that problem.

523
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Speaker 6: I've had money for a little while, and and and again,

524
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Speaker 6: I'm high yellow green, yo, and I'm passable by some

525
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 6: people's standards that the door gets shut in my face

526
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Speaker 6: by the bank manager that makes one hundred and thirty

527
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Speaker 6: thousand dollars a year walking around with the chess spoke

528
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 6: out you going there with a check that half of

529
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Speaker 6: his salary.

530
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Speaker 2: Then niggas put an extended hold on your check for

531
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Speaker 2: no fucking reason.

532
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Speaker 4: But that doesn't not to cut you off. But that

533
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: doesn't give you a reason not to want that. Because

534
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 4: somebody is gonna for some it's gonna change their lives.

535
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: And I heard your first and I wasn't disrespected, but

536
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: when I heard it, and I give you full grace

537
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: on what you meant the same what you said, well, like.

538
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Speaker 1: Bringing grace to the to the picnic.

539
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Speaker 4: But I know you just said you made it sound

540
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: like it was a choice about giving that feeling you

541
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 4: have when you give a homeless person money. Almost everybody

542
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: has that pause or say what they're.

543
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Gonna get with it, what they're gonna use it on drugs?

544
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 4: What they got? And it hit me like, that's not

545
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: what it is gotch taking.

546
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Speaker 6: But again, if I if I sounded like my apologies

547
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 6: to us as a community and as as a people,

548
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 6: that that's not really my intent. My mintent is again

549
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 6: a deeper problem them where you start talking about, yo,

550
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: let's fix the stuff that holds us back as opposed

551
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 6: to just get draw money out of the problem.

552
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that people listen I comprehension, and I

553
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 5: think you and I love that your compassionate to the responses.

554
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: But I think that's fake outrage for those people because

555
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 5: they're not listening.

556
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 7: You clearly said I don't want reparations.

557
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: I want I want.

558
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 7: You didn't stop there, you said I want equity.

559
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 5: Why do people just lean into the They stopped, They

560
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: put a full stop after you said the reparation and

561
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: didn't go into equity because at that point you say, oh,

562
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 5: for those who don't know, let me look up what

563
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: equity is and see what the hell he's talking about.

564
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if that, if that, if that's the

565
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 5: lose clues of the situation. It's like you didn't stop

566
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: and say, oh, I don't want my people to have

567
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: that reparation because they're gonna be irresponsible with it.

568
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 7: You said, I want I don't want.

569
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 8: Legs.

570
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 5: But but but that's we all have wants to I didn't.

571
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 5: I will say this, I will say this and the

572
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: next Thanksgiving when we in our own collective families and

573
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: what bring that up? Just say, watch what the older

574
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: for a future episode, Well, it's probably be out with

575
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 5: your mom, even.

576
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 7: The perspective she has.

577
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen to what they the wise counsel and how

578
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 5: they feel about us collectively getting some money.

579
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Speaker 4: I just don't. And it's not gonna make it a

580
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: case for a ore and it should be.

581
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Speaker 6: An and you want both reparations and and equality and freedom,

582
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: but we got to ask some measures to manage that.

583
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 6: If you got and this is what the white people

584
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 6: are scared of, if you fuck the ore, if you

585
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 6: gave us the and they know that we are gonna

586
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: go ape ship, look at all the adversity that we've

587
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 6: been through, and look at the strides and the measures

588
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: that we've overcome and to get where we are. If

589
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: they remove the roadblocks, were gonna own the road. You

590
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: get what I'm saying, And so reparations would well.

591
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: And then we see when we do own things like

592
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Black Wall Street and what happened in in Tulsa and

593
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: even any of our we see right now that they're

594
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: literally redlining, like like all right, now, come on, be

595
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: a professional, one job. Put the goddamn phone on D

596
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: n D now AnyWho, let's get down for some ignorance.

597
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: Let's let's get into some fun topics. Let's have fun

598
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: with this, because one thing that me and Ish disagree

599
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: on a lot is dating dynamics and women and men.

600
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: And this isn't gonna be gender wars, This isn't gonna

601
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: be an old patriarchy. This I'm gonna speak loud and proud. Well,

602
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: let's let's go into quote unquote sports. Do we want

603
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: to lean into tennis first? Or Cam Newton's baby Mama?

604
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: What we getting into first? Okay, well, we're gonna get

605
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: to the baby mama dramma?

606
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: All right?

607
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Uh so Jazzi, who is currently pregnant with her second child,

608
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Night Child for Cam Newt and she's the third baby

609
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: mother with no ring. She recently had a quote unquote

610
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: transparency moment. She posted this to her Instagram and said,

611
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Speaker 1: if God gave me a son, I'd be so nervous

612
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: because I feel like I subconsciously raise him to be

613
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: a man I can only dream of but never experienced.

614
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: And that's traumatic. Now, I don't damn your face.

615
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: Oh, so what doesn't she want? She doesn't want her

616
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: time to be rich. She doesn't want them to be

617
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: a college graduate. She doesn't want to be a NFL star,

618
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: doesn't want to be a media star, doesn't want to

619
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Speaker 4: be known worldwide.

620
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Speaker 1: So I think that's I think that's the thing. When

621
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Speaker 1: we talk about what we actually want in partnership. We

622
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: never sit here and say we want this powerful, famous man.

623
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: We want that, Like I think as women now, we

624
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: really would like partners that have emotional intelligence, partners that

625
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: don't do not suck your teeth. I think that we

626
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: could have these ideas that we want a certain lifestyle.

627
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Right in our mind, cool an athlete looks like something

628
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: that we would love to date. We would love that

629
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: that thing in our mind, right, But when we really

630
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: actually sit down for with what we want, it's a

631
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: lot of things that we're not getting. It's the person

632
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: that's there.

633
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: She said.

634
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Speaker 1: In her last she said right after her first baby

635
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: that she went through postpartum and felt like she was

636
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: a single mother not getting any help. And so I

637
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: think that motherhood is something that women want. Partnership is

638
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: something that women want. But I don't think we genuinely

639
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: sit down and talk about how we want our partners

640
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: to show up. And so when we get the thing

641
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: that we think we want, it's not what we want

642
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: at all. Here, I don't like both of y'all looking

643
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: at each other like this.

644
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: I wish she had said those words out loud instead

645
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: of doing a reverse shot at anybody.

646
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: Oh, this is a reverse shot at camp specifically.

647
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: And see I disagree. I stand on the opposite side.

648
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: You don't think this is a shot. She wants to

649
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: raise the sun as a man that she's never experienced.

650
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Speaker 6: I think that's honesty. I don't think it's a shot.

651
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 6: I think that and let me jump Well, I don't

652
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 6: know who said it. This, this, this is what we

653
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: we have, not brought up yet, right, he goes to

654
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 6: all of Cam's accolades, right and society, And now I'm

655
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: gonna crack your head because in society, we measure a

656
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 6: man by how much success and how much money he attains.

657
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: So we say, yo, this is a good man based

658
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: on this, right, and which are all surface level physical things,

659
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 6: material things. You can't say, yo, I want a man

660
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 6: to be there when I'm going through all of these

661
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 6: things emotionally and spiritually and mentally. But nigga, you still

662
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: got to go make the millions because there's going to

663
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 6: be a disconnect there because the niggas that's out making

664
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 6: millions might not have time to be at home when

665
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 6: you're going through it at three in the morning. Okay, Right,

666
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 6: So I think her thing was honest. I think yo,

667
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 6: dog I might have in no disrespect to Cam at all.

668
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: I might have a seven and a half in camp,

669
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 6: but the things that he's lacking in I would like

670
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 6: for my son to be proficient in. And I don't

671
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 6: think that's a shot at him. We all have girlfriends,

672
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 6: we all have husband's wives, whatever the case may be.

673
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 6: Your husband and your wife are lacking some things, and

674
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 6: you would want for your offspring to be proficient in

675
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 6: those things.

676
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a shot.

677
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: I think because even with your example, that would mean

678
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,239
Speaker 4: that the seven and a half, because she said, if

679
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: you're giving them a seven and a half, she said

680
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: things that she's there never experienced. Yes, So do you

681
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: think just that two and a half made will make

682
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: all the difference? Because that's what I said. I wish

683
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: you would have called him out because anything that you

684
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 4: obviously don't know him, whatever, got into a seven and

685
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: a half, you that wasn't enough.

686
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: She also said it's traumatic. I would like to know

687
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: what things she's saying that she's never experienced from anybody.

688
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: It's not just Cam she's saying. I also think that

689
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: it's that's a lot of pressure to put on whatever

690
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: son you're about to birth.

691
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 7: Do you think that you don't think so?

692
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't. I think I think that.

693
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 6: Let's say I don't know her, but let's say hypothetically

694
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 6: she's dated one type of man. A lot of women

695
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 6: and men we have a type like, and our type

696
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: is where we go consistently, where we go, the ship fails,

697
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: but we go right back there.

698
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: So YO, shut up that it's not about me listen.

699
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: I think all my niggas was different.

700
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 7: Different people think that she learned CAM enough.

701
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: What did she see cam that, you know, prior to

702
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 5: whatever discourse they have it now that changed.

703
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: To be fair a lot.

704
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: But to be fair, I think that that's the thing,

705
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: like he said, in society, we are attracted to the

706
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: wealthy man, the powerful man, the famous man. Respect but

707
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: literally I think that's a patriarchal thing, right. We do

708
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: essentially believe we want a provider. That's what I think

709
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: most women lean towards, especially if they want to lean.

710
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Into the soft life.

711
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: The soft life of what a woman looks like.

712
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: Say that part though, so you know.

713
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: That, But I think that that's the frustration. You finally

714
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: get that, and you do you want everything about this

715
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: man that he's not capable of showing.

716
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: That the post office worker. I did a show and

717
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: I talked about professions that by and large are looked

718
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 6: at as successful and today they are not enough. If

719
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 6: you're a college professor and you make one hundred and

720
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: fifty k, one hundred and seventy K, people look at

721
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 6: you like Nick, if you don't get your ass out

722
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 6: of here.

723
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 4: That's the East Coast.

724
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I think that's what Internet takes.

725
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 6: That's not that's not true when you sit down and

726
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 6: start discussing what realism looks like to these women.

727
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: On the panel yesterday, women.

728
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 6: Talked about how they are not willing to split fifty

729
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 6: to fifty, They not willing to pay a bill, They

730
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 6: not willing to do these things. My nigga, If you

731
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in most major

732
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 6: cities in the United States in all the bills.

733
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: No, but you're also like the idea that women want

734
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: men that make that much money, especially black men, they're not.

735
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: That's not numbers.

736
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: It's not reality.

737
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: It's not reality at one fifty oh way. And then

738
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: they want them to be synonymous.

739
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 6: With sense of humor, with personality, fashionable, over sixty two,

740
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: all of these things, my nigga, the numbers are not

741
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 6: in your favor. And what I'm saying is when you

742
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: get the dude that has all of the surface ship,

743
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 6: guess what, that nigga might not be funny, his personality

744
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 6: might not be it. You might can't take him to

745
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 6: your corporate Christmas party and the cookout with your hood cousins.

746
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: They not gonna mess.

747
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 6: So what I'm telling you is the things that y'all say,

748
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: y'all are looking for right on the surface level.

749
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: When you get them, now you're stuck and you say,

750
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: you know what, it's not enough. It's not enough.

751
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: We all know, we've all been your cousin, bitch yourself.

752
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: The good guys can finish last. We all know that

753
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: as a fact. And it's just another category of stuff.

754
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: It's just inconsistency. There's somebody for everybody there. But the

755
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 4: thing we've heard most last five years at least, not

756
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: saying this universal get the money, where's the bag?

757
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: I do think our community.

758
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: I do think that there needs to be a healthier

759
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: relationship with mothers and sons though, because you either hate

760
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: the nigga you chose to make the baby with, so

761
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: then there's resentment to the child, or you literally create

762
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: a very strange relationship with this son because you want

763
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: to make him the man that you can't go out

764
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and find, that you can't go out and date. And

765
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: that's where we have like the little blurred lines with

766
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: those types of relationships that I see, and it's unhealthy.

767
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: It's it's me, it's what we're saying with what's the

768
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: what's the what's the mom right now? Not wanting her

769
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: football son to date nobody, the Jalen or whatever his

770
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: name is.

771
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think she wants, you know, not

772
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: to date people.

773
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 6: I think she wants to protect him from the huchi

774
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 6: mama bitches that's out here.

775
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: What you're talking about, yo, dog.

776
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 6: We got forty year old women trying to attract twenty

777
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 6: two to twenty three year old stars that they know

778
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: gonna get a max contract and make three hundred they

779
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: call him auntie.

780
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that that's the problem too as

781
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: a man, when you reach a certain level of money,

782
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: a certain income, a certain status, the idea that you

783
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: think everybody only wants you for that, when oftentimes you

784
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: lead with that too. It's just like, bro, let me.

785
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 6: There's women that can like you for other things. Take

786
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 6: part the part where they leave with it, yes, because

787
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 6: everybody does it. Do that, and especially some of these athletes.

788
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 6: They don't have to do that because my name is

789
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 6: my name. Chad Ocho Sinko says, fam I don't have

790
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 6: to show no money. I'm ridding around in the priests.

791
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 6: They know I'm rich already. Nowadays, girls will pull out

792
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 6: their phone when you tell what you're doing with your contract.

793
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 6: So I don't have to lead with money that my

794
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 6: profession speaks for itself. So we're not going to conflate

795
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 6: the two issues fam nowadays, if you look at dialogue,

796
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 6: dialogue is telling men you gotta come with the bag

797
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 6: first were talking about.

798
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: But also men don't know how to speak.

799
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: That is.

800
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: If we think about the men that literally just have

801
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: to show up. No, there are men that because of

802
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: who they are, because of their name, because because of

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: because of their career, they now feel the need to

804
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: not have to actually speak. And so dialogue tell me.

805
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: What does that even mean?

806
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 6: These pretty women that just got a fat ass in

807
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: a pretty face, they don't know how to speak.

808
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: Neither don't do that.

809
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: It's no, it's both okay.

810
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 6: They never had to work on their social skills because

811
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 6: I've been a star athlete since I was his sixties.

812
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: They was getting their homework done for them women constantly,

813
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: one of them teachers didn't hold them accountable.

814
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: So they go into.

815
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Dating with those same things. I don't have to do anything,

816
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to show up, I don't to work

817
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: on myself all I gotta do is this one thing,

818
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: make money and be a star. So all of the

819
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: other skills that they should have been learning to adapt

820
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: in other parts of their life, they've never felt the

821
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: need to.

822
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: I agree with that. But but that's not a man thing.

823
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: That's a people thing. It's a people think.

824
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 6: A lot of these rich people they socially awkward because

825
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 6: they have been well, that's because everyone.

826
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people undiagnosed autism, truth.

827
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 6: The mathematicians, the engineers, they be socially undiagnosed.

828
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 4: I'm telling somebody is older than you see. Women who

829
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: used to just walk in the door. They hitting their forties.

830
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: They don't even know how to act. Because people are

831
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: And I'm not against it anything. This is what I

832
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: just don't know what it is to be relationship. And

833
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: I don't know him.

834
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: I know, and we don't know.

835
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: He brings this conversation up.

836
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: It's an echo in the room. I don't know him.

837
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 6: When the women get to be thirty eight, thirty nine

838
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 6: years old, the things that once matter to them are

839
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 6: less important facts.

840
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 7: When gets to be thirty eight or thirty nine years old.

841
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: Oh this is Kevin said, This is the Kevin Samuels.

842
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm only saying.

843
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: It's to Kevin Samuels because in conversations that we've had,

844
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: when they get to thirty eight, thirty nine years old,

845
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: quote unquote dot dot dot, it's that women are declining.

846
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: It's that they can't ask for things. It's that they

847
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: waited too long to show up. Is this and now

848
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: they're they're behind, And it's just like.

849
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: I don't even think. I just think that.

850
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 6: Then back to the point with cam full circle, I

851
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 6: think that when you are in your twenties, when you're

852
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 6: in your thirties early thirties, you know you have time, right,

853
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 6: so you think that.

854
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Man, we all got time.

855
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: Even in Charming, it's.

856
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: Still out there for me, right, He's still there, so

857
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 6: I have time to get him. And when you start

858
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: to get into your your your latter thirties, early forties, one,

859
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 6: you realize Prince Charming may not be coming for me.

860
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 6: And then number two, the things that I wanted in

861
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 6: Prince Charming no longer as important as they once were.

862
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: Okay, And so to her point, Sam.

863
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: I have this man, the superstar, all of these accolades,

864
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 6: and I don't know him from a from a from

865
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 6: a personal You know what I'm saying. Cam could be

866
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 6: funny as shit. He could be smart at shit. He

867
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 6: could be encouraging. He is funny, but he could be encouraging.

868
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 6: He could be all these things. I'm not saying that

869
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: he's not. But whatever he is not, it might not.

870
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: The money, the fame and all that shit might not

871
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 6: outweigh the things that he's lost.

872
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: She said, the man I can only dream of but

873
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: never experience. I think that's a part of women that

874
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: we have to come. I think our expectations are unrealistic.

875
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: So never experienced, she said, she's never experienced past that.

876
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: So she would like, here we go, I'm not doing

877
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: this nobody, Okay, So then so then so then let's go.

878
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 6: So then let's go look like Cam that's out here

879
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 6: getting all this money in it.

880
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: So let's go to the other end of this question

881
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: at work. Let's go So American tennis player who's actually thirty.

882
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 8: Uh.

883
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Sashia Vickery made headlines for not only competing in the

884
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: US Open qualifiers, but candidly discussing her unusual new dating policy.

885
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 8: Uh.

886
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: She revealed that she now requires a one thousand dollars

887
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: pre date deposit citing past negative experiences, She said I

888
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: no longer date for free due to the behavior of men.

889
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: The Florida born athlete of Course Florida. She recently reached

890
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: a career high ranking of number seventy three and defended

891
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: her use of hold on, hold on, mind you hold

892
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: on yep. Not only ranked number seventy three, this was

893
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen. She also defended her use of

894
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: only fans, calling it the easiest money she's ever made.

895
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: Next, discuss this right?

896
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: What what.

897
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: That me?

898
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Look, let me ask you no, I absolutely believe

899
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: at this point we just need to wear badges that

900
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: say Hi, I operate as a prostitute. I operate as

901
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: an escort in dating, I expect you to actually this

902
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: to be more transactional than me really caring to get

903
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: to know you. To me, that's the problem with everything

904
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing online. When you're leading with a woman,

905
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: is I need you to give me this before I

906
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: even care about anything about your ass. You just need

907
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: to be okay with labeling yourself as a sex worker.

908
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: Dog dating is that dating error?

909
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 6: You are going to kiss a million frogs before you

910
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: find your your prince or your Princess.

911
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: Thousand frogs, one thousand dollars.

912
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm not giving them fifty.

913
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: What I'm telling you is, dog, how do you say

914
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: they're wasting your time?

915
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: Cool? That's one.

916
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, as if their time might not be being wasted

917
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 6: by sitting by sitting with you, having a shitty conversation

918
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 6: with you over a meal.

919
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

920
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 6: These are the things, like we in society is adopting

921
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 6: and accepting these things.

922
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: I hate.

923
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 6: The men have all of the deficiencies and the women

924
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: are showing up and showing out, and now it's for us.

925
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: To prove ourselves to them.

926
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy because.

927
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: This is a test for both parties.

928
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: I feel like this is and it's funny because in

929
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: the comments they were like, well, she can demand that

930
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: because of what she does. Maybe she makes a lot

931
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: of money.

932
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: I think number seventy three, Yeah, seven years ago.

933
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, what the fucking cam demand?

934
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold you. I feel like I feel

935
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: like to me and the ladies are gonna hate me

936
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: on this. I feel like this mentality that a man

937
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: has to show up like this out the gate is

938
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: broke bitch mentality. Me and mia Ish recently had a

939
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: conversation and it was like, as women, when you become

940
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: financially independent and financially secure, your views on life changed

941
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: so much, like you become a better and as women,

942
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: the ability to become financially dependent allows you to actually

943
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: get to know men for men and not as these providers,

944
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: not as the patriarchy, like you're able to do that

945
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: typically happen, I would say in your thirties.

946
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 6: Thirties, your early forties, when you when you actually have

947
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 6: your own bag.

948
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: When when as a woman, when you have your own bag,

949
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: you actually get to view men as as as a

950
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: human Yes, which is crazy, but yes, yes, I'll ask.

951
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: Some of the question when it comes to dating, whatever

952
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: the age, whatever the bag, at what date and I'm

953
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: not even talking sexual for sure, is there any expectation

954
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: from a woman? No?

955
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: No, no, you guys definitely want sex. Out question from

956
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: the question.

957
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: Expectations of what he has to do, from even calling

958
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 4: to day setting up the date. At what point one, two, three, four,

959
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: five later does a woman happen her first expect something

960
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: she has to do, something she has to provide, something

961
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: she has to call, whatever she has to do. There

962
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: are no expectations.

963
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: I would say, at least the way we show up physically,

964
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: that's very important. It comes at a cost. So it's

965
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: hair's hair done, nails done, the way we dress, the

966
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: way we present ourselves.

967
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 4: There's a there's.

968
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

969
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 4: Were in that same chair?

970
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So your expectation, I would say that it's sex.

971
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: That's what y'all want, that's the expectation. And y'all don't

972
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I think that when we go into dating women as

973
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: a whole, and not necessarily myself because I don't want

974
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: the same traditional outcomes with dating. But traditionally speaking, in dating,

975
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: women are looking for how this person can be as

976
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 1: a partner. And I don't think men go into dating

977
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: necessarily gauging a woman.

978
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: What's the wrong provider?

979
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 6: Because if you're looking for a partner, then you're looking

980
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: who build with that person and they don't have to

981
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: come to the table meeting all this expectations.

982
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: I see how I can mess with this individual to

983
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: build an empire for me and my family.

984
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: What are the expectations if we have the expectations of

985
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: men being providers, what expectations do men then have on

986
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: women in dates?

987
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Because I'm different, I'm not trying to be different.

988
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 6: What I'm what I'm looking for and what I'll accept

989
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 6: is different than what some other people will accept. So

990
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people where all a woman

991
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 6: has to do is have a certain esthetic and that

992
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 6: is sufficient for them. And I'm not yet, but I'm

993
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 6: not knocking at at all. If that's what your bag is,

994
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 6: then do your thing. I'm saying that, and I say

995
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 6: this publicly, and you you my friend till you know

996
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 6: they are the intangible ship for me, far out ways

997
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 6: the tangible, if far out ways the tangible for me.

998
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: So I can't see you.

999
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: And we talked many times. Sexual. I love strong conversation,

1000
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 4: powerful good conversations. I've been in the space where I

1001
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 4: see a lot of young and older women who are

1002
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 4: strong doing their thing and always have we hand out.

1003
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 4: I just no matter what package it comes in. That's

1004
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: just completely a turnoff.

1005
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 6: It's a turnoff, and it's been I've been that way

1006
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 6: since I was a kid, just talking. No when you,

1007
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 6: when you when you come to the table thinking that

1008
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: I'm so pretty or I'm so fire that that's all

1009
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 6: I have to be is pretty right.

1010
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think, oh my god, and

1011
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: not handsome bitch. No, I think I think though that

1012
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: it I like to just go back and blame the

1013
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: patriarchy on this, because essentially, like like I'm not gonna

1014
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: hold you, okay, let me let me share something. Let

1015
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: me share something that was so crazy. So I recently

1016
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: was working on a project I and there's a lot

1017
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: of movies that, if you rewatch it as an adult,

1018
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: is insane, like your point of view looks at it crazy.

1019
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: So recently watched Prob Prejudice and it was so fucking

1020
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: interesting because the entire film is based upon like like

1021
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: literally and I'm not a feminist, but I watched it.

1022
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I was disgusted. All of the women in the movie

1023
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: were just waiting to be selected by a man, and

1024
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: it was built and it was based upon their aesthetic,

1025
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: their looks. So literally, through the whole film, you're looking

1026
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: at the women that might not be as attractive the

1027
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: men that are literally like and then you had mister

1028
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Darcy in the film who literally made it seem like

1029
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: he wanted a very a well read, a well traveled,

1030
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: well he wanted all these things that at the time

1031
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: women really just weren't even So it was interesting to

1032
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: see all of these dynamics of what mothers pushing their

1033
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: children on to be married, men just having their selection

1034
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: of all these bitches. And it was just like, this

1035
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: is a disgusting film. I hate years today, well to me,

1036
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: it's also and so I was watching it, I was like, damn,

1037
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: not much really changed now. This film dropped in five

1038
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: and it was based on like sub medieval fucking time.

1039
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But I was like, wow, we're not far off from this.

1040
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: And so when you sit here and say, yeah, but

1041
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: women only got to show what looks and men are

1042
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: looked at as the providers, this was essentially what it's

1043
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: always been.

1044
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 6: You're leading out a really really really important piece, what

1045
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 6: piece the money and pride and prejudice. Those were not

1046
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 6: commoners the same way today you're you're making the equivalent.

1047
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: Sy to uh the jay Z's, the cams, the these.

1048
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 6: Guys have traditionally gotten pretty women, right, So you're not

1049
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: talking about commoners. Commoners look at the world in a

1050
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 6: different lens than the mega rich, so and pride and prejudice,

1051
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 6: you're talking about the dudes that had the pick of

1052
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 6: the litter, right, So when you have the pick of

1053
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: the litter, that's what it's going to be.

1054
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: Common men. I think. I think that's why out here

1055
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: looking for those same things.

1056
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess that's why from the microphones of the tweets.

1057
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Everything on the internet is spoken from non commoner point

1058
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: of view. Yes, it's just unrealistic with unrealistic expectation.

1059
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 6: And I know a bunch of women, especially Black women,

1060
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 6: that are not out here looking for Cam Newton. I

1061
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 6: know a bunch of black women that just want a

1062
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 6: good ass dude that's gonna come home every day, that's

1063
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 6: gonna cuddle with me feet, give me some dick, pay

1064
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 6: some bills, and raise our family.

1065
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we are agreeing, we are Okay, let's get in it.

1066
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: Let's get into quote unquote politics. But you're new there

1067
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: in that idea.

1068
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: I am new there. I'm not going to hold you.

1069
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: And this is where where like when when writing the

1070
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: book No Holds Barred, it was very important for me

1071
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: to be able to showcase like the change in my

1072
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: lens of dating. And I do think that my early

1073
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: on views of dating came from a broke ass bitch

1074
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: who only thought a man was there to allow me

1075
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: the experience of vacations because I couldn't make it myself.

1076
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: The experience of luxury back because I couldn't get it myself,

1077
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: the experience of having a roof over my head because God,

1078
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn, I keep having to work

1079
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: for rent and now that those things don't are.

1080
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: No, I know, No, I'm not gonna lie.

1081
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. My point of views on dating

1082
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: as a broke bitch were terrible and unfortunately not to

1083
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: shade any of my listeners. I don't know if you

1084
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: broke bitches, but when you get to a place of

1085
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: financial security, and I hope for more women to reach it,

1086
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: your lens on, men do change and become so much better,

1087
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: and then you can you also don't feel like you

1088
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: can't show up as yourself like me right now.

1089
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: I love telling niggas you want them.

1090
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Five and you just gotta you know, make that.

1091
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Okay?

1092
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: All right?

1093
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, I know, I know I'll be sharing these niggas.

1094
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: It's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm a realist though. Anyways, let's get into politics before

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: before we wrap this thing up. Uh, Donald Trump recently,

1097
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, stirred up the pot. This is what he

1098
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: tweeted about the Smithsonian and I want to have this

1099
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: conversation about our thoughts and views on removing critical race

1100
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: theory and all the things happening around our history. All right,

1101
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: So the museums throughout Washington, but all over the country

1102
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: are essentially the last remaining segment.

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00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: Of quote unquote woke.

1104
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: The Smithsonian is the Smithsonian is out of control. Where

1105
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how bad

1106
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: slavery was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing

1107
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future. We

1108
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: are not going to allow this to happen. And I

1109
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: have instructed my attorneys to go through the museums and

1110
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: start the exact same process that has been done with

1111
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: colleges and universities where tremendous progress has been made. This

1112
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: country cannot be woke because woke is broke. We have

1113
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: the hottest country in the world, and we want people

1114
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: to talk about it, including in our museums. Now subject

1115
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: what makes it touchy?

1116
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: I just I'll ask it as a question, because you

1117
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: know connects. I can't mess within certain areas. How do

1118
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 4: you put back up Confederate statues at the same time

1119
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 4: you're taking down pictures of how about it? How are

1120
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 4: you doing that? At the same time you're renaming bases

1121
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: the same time. You can if you can explain that

1122
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 4: to me, I mean you can't.

1123
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be very clear. It's why I just

1124
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: brought up, like you have this policy right now that

1125
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: you're pushing to get to knock out immigrants, as if

1126
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: you're not married to one and created children with another, Like.

1127
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: As if they're not all the workers at your golf courses.

1128
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1129
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: No, I think that where they gave.

1130
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 6: A pass for the immigrants that work in farming quote

1131
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 6: unquote and landscaping to get a different.

1132
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: Bump.

1133
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 6: Mind you, Now you know that your ship is going

1134
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 6: to suffer as a result of yourn.

1135
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: When we talk about the potential or possibility of entering

1136
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: World War three, what is the number one thing they're

1137
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: doing going back to what happened in World War One

1138
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: and World War two? Like you can't necessarily even try

1139
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: to remove history as if it doesn't repeat itself. And

1140
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: so for me, I think the fact that there's him

1141
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: and the stantus, I mean, especially because I lean into

1142
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: Florida politics a lot, and why I think it's important

1143
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: to lean into what's happening on a local level because

1144
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: it's going to fucking reach a federal level. To me,

1145
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: seeing that he's looking to do this is really interesting

1146
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: because what it's really doing is just making white people

1147
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: be absolved of their treatment of America. And it's why

1148
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: he says, let's make America great again. It was never

1149
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: really great. You want to lean into that we've been

1150
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: this the best country in the world, when in reality,

1151
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: now that a lot of us have passport stamps and

1152
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: actually get to travel, we see how advanced and better

1153
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: other countries actually are.

1154
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: They that, Oh.

1155
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: Whis why they wanted to control TikTok. They said, oh,

1156
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: you niggas is learning too much? They it's I don't know,

1157
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: it's frustrating. I will say. Museums to me are interesting

1158
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: because I think they do be lying. So I went

1159
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: to the African American Museum, and when you start at

1160
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: the bottom, it starts with the ships that bring the

1161
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: ship over, and they have all these artifacts that I

1162
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: questioned to be real and ships, the ships to bring

1163
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: the slaves over. But then they had but then they

1164
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: also had like diagrams of how they laid in it.

1165
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 7: Diagra or not.

1166
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 8: War.

1167
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I gonna hold you. They also had

1168
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: these apparently the actual the the paper where they showed how.

1169
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: Many slaves made it, how many slaves didn't make it.

1170
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: They had their names, and I'm like, wait, y'all ain't

1171
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: have names for these things. I know that they was

1172
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: kind of just numbers. Y'all don't even see these as

1173
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: human beings. So I'm just like, I don't believe the

1174
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: the reality that these are real artifacts. And so for me,

1175
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: when I go into the African American Museum, it's interesting

1176
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: because a part of me feels like they've already lied

1177
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: about our history, and so this is interesting that he's

1178
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: now trying to remove these I feel like white people

1179
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: have already shaped our history in a way that's not real.

1180
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: Same same way I went to and I talked about

1181
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: it in the episode with my mom. We went to

1182
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Disney the whole Pilgrim Indian ship that was lied to

1183
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: us in the delivery of it. And so it's interesting

1184
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: for us to know that now because we've had people.

1185
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 5: Maybe the victor controls the narrative.

1186
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: A lion can't write books.

1187
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Could he be saying

1188
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: some ship?

1189
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'd be like, what the Yeah, you're stupid, it's

1190
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: a hunter.

1191
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 6: When you're going when you go to somebody's house and

1192
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 6: they have a lion head up here as an accomplishment,

1193
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: because and we're praising them for catching this lion out

1194
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 6: in a while, It's like, yo, my nigga, if the

1195
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 6: lion could write a book. They're not looking at you

1196
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 6: like a fucking hero. They looking at you like a

1197
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 6: fucking Okay, you know what I'm saying. And so what

1198
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 6: what white people have done? I just had this conversation

1199
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 6: yesterday in the hotel lobby. It was two older women.

1200
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 6: Now they recognized me from the show and just start

1201
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 6: talking about starting a podcast. And so they were really

1202
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 6: religious and so they and then they're like, are you religious?

1203
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 6: And I started laughing and they're like I'm like, no,

1204
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 6: my mom is Pentecostal to the tenth Power and all

1205
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 6: of this other stuff, right, and.

1206
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: Ladies starts shouting in this lobby and I'm like.

1207
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 6: So we started laughing, and I said, yo, she said,

1208
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 6: so you don't subscribe to religion, and I said I do.

1209
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: I said, however, if you're not, if you're an uber

1210
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 6: religious person, then I think you also have to be

1211
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: a huge historian, because I think the two.

1212
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: Things have a marriage and so I said church and

1213
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: state were one.

1214
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 6: White men were running the world at some point because

1215
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 6: they started conquering everything, killing off all the scribes, killing

1216
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 6: off all of.

1217
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: The whyn and burning the books. Those are the few things.

1218
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: They literally books.

1219
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 6: When you immediately conquer a civilization, you wipe out their

1220
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 6: history because after one or two generations, their history is

1221
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 6: no longer yep.

1222
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: Cool.

1223
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 6: So after the old motherfuckers die and you make with

1224
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 6: the people, they're gonna identify with you. This is what

1225
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 6: they're doing. I think if they start taking slavery out

1226
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 6: of the school books like they're doing in Florida and Texas,

1227
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 6: Texics especially, I.

1228
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Mean as an adult, I think it's been interesting that

1229
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: black history has for so long, for generations, has been

1230
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: so limited with which people they they even teach us about,

1231
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't I learned about Fred Hampton because of

1232
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Judas and the Black Masside the film, Like there's certain

1233
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: people with an iron.

1234
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: Literally, Martin Luther King said, let them smack you, So

1235
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna play.

1236
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: That was Malcolm X.

1237
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: No, Martin Luther King said, let them smack you.

1238
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: Let the white people slack, then the other person, don't

1239
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: do that shut up. I heard it. I heard it. Well,

1240
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, one was pro protest, the other.

1241
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 5: Was, well, that's what again, that's what they presented to us.

1242
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 7: But Martin change his changed.

1243
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: And then killed him. We can't do that.

1244
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting with us being essentially millennials and

1245
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: gen Y being somewhat of the most woke generations with

1246
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: the most access, why do you why do we not like, okay,

1247
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: so educated?

1248
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: What about?

1249
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: What about educated to the point where we've had for

1250
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: success informed generations across the masses. And so it's interesting

1251
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: to us now being the most informed, having the most

1252
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: access to technology, to books, to to our our our

1253
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: people being able to educate us to now literally visibly

1254
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: seeing them trying to remove it for the generation right

1255
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: below us, right below us.

1256
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: And that's the point.

1257
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: So if you and that was the correlation I made

1258
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 6: with religion, like yo, we've been taught that Jesus had

1259
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 6: blond hair, blue eyes, We've been taught all.

1260
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: Of these things, and that's just something oral surface. But

1261
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: if we can.

1262
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 6: Erase all of these things that white people have done one,

1263
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 6: it absolves them of their guilt. And that's the critical

1264
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 6: race theory argument. It absolves them of their guilt.

1265
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: Those that feel any guilt.

1266
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: For those that feel guilt, let's be.

1267
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: A lot of them don't even know what you mean.

1268
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: They don't know.

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01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 6: They know they finish, they know about slavery. A lot

1270
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 6: of them don't know. You just said you're a black

1271
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 6: woman that didn't know about Fred Hampton. Yeah, what the

1272
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 6: fuck do you think they gonna know about it?

1273
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: You know, people they don't even know about. No people know.

1274
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: You're well now that we think about it in terms

1275
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: of even how we how we learn history. Right, we

1276
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: have the one Black History Month, but throughout the US

1277
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: that we outside of Hitler, we don't hear.

1278
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: There's not much taught about how white people.

1279
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Came in and were the slave There's no history on

1280
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: slave masters and what their treatment was.

1281
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: They glorify and Santa Maria. They glorify that ship, my nigga.

1282
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 6: They came here and took some people ship that welcomed them,

1283
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 6: taught them how to farm.

1284
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus learn the terrain and the land.

1285
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 6: We torch y'all, and then y'all reversed it and took

1286
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 6: our ship away from us and wiped us out and

1287
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: relegated us to little pockets of land when all of

1288
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 6: this ship was ours.

1289
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: Right, you're right, you're right.

1290
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: We're only there are communities now that if you could

1291
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: be a fourteen year old kid just going to school

1292
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 4: and have never met a black.

1293
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: Person, true, and the United.

1294
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: Building, the community that was going to be just them,

1295
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 4: for them, their rules, no one's going to burn that down.

1296
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,959
Speaker 4: No one's gonna think they learn.

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: Our ship down today neither. I think that you don't

1298
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: think so, I don't think.

1299
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's why they're doing the

1300
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: gerrymandering and redlining. Like I think that even in terms

1301
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: of politically the US being in a space to create

1302
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: a system that's governed by us for us, that's why

1303
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: they're redlining and making it to where it's not even possible.

1304
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it's power thing that's I think that.

1305
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 6: I think that to my point before, if they gave

1306
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 6: us equity, how we started off full circle.

1307
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: If they gave us equity, or if they took away

1308
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: the roadblocks, were gonna own the road.

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Speaker 6: I think that what the ship that they're doing in

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Speaker 6: Texas keeps the powers that be in Texas, the powers

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Speaker 6: that be because what's starting to happen is even if

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Speaker 6: you look at Congress.

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Speaker 2: It's starting to be more color. Yeah, it's starting to

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Speaker 2: be different.

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Speaker 6: Uh, sexual orientations, it's starting to be different, religious orientations.

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Speaker 2: They don't want that ship.

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Speaker 6: The white men that have been running this country for

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Speaker 6: the last how many ever one hundred years want to

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01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 6: maintain that power, and they're starting to be scared. A

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Speaker 6: lot of this, even the immigration shit is based on numbers,

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 6: like these motherfuckers are coming here and they and in

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Speaker 6: five ten years they are going to be the majority,

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Speaker 6: and we can't have that. So we gotta get these

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01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 6: motherfuckers out of here because they breeding babies like rabbit.

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Speaker 1: They don't do that.

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Speaker 5: But yo, you remember, you remember years ago about maybe

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Speaker 5: over the lost decade, there was a study that said

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Speaker 5: that twenty thirty or whatever, the dominant language was going.

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Speaker 7: To be Espanol.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna be Espono.

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: Own a construction company.

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Speaker 6: We know right, well, two sides of the box are English,

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Speaker 6: the other two sides are Spanish. Right on the outer box,

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01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 6: the instructions, all of that shit. That's how much diversity

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Speaker 6: is being Not.

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Speaker 1: Only that I used to say leaving Florida, the idea

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Speaker 1: of ever going back, I always say Florida's not a

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Speaker 1: place for me because I'm not bilingual. Like there's a

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: lot of jobs that require you to be bilingual if

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Speaker 1: you're living in certain communities in Florida, like and I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know kind of even the Bronx, Like I

1342
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: remember living in the Bronx, and literally you gotta know

1343
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: how to order your food in Spanish because they not

1344
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: even learning English. And like they're coming here and having

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Speaker 1: the ability to do that.

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Speaker 6: And they'll create a community where they don't have to

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Speaker 6: leave outside of their community. Like my girls Portuguese. And

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Speaker 6: so they have a section in New Jersey where literally

1349
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Speaker 6: all of the Portuguese people live through and they don't

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 6: a lot of them really don't speak English. Fact, and

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 6: they are surviving in America without being able to speak

1352
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,959
Speaker 6: English because this pocket of society is just their own.

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Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying.

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01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 6: Until white people don't wantshit, they whitewashing the history.

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Speaker 1: Not only their whitewashing the history. I want to talk

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01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: about our power before we get out of here. The

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Speaker 1: Target CEO did step down amid declining sales and DEI backlash.

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01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: If you guys are living under a rock. They recently

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01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: shared that they've lost twelve point six billion dollars due

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Speaker 1: to the removal of their two billion dollar DEI program.

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: And this is showing black people the power of actual

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: boycott and not spending money with a certain company. I

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: wish it was like a place I didn't use a

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Speaker 1: lot because I was like, damn Target.

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Speaker 2: You said, what.

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Speaker 1: So I don't go to stores? I do everything online.

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Speaker 2: You didn't answer this question. I don't have Target gotten something? Hm,

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01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: how long we were boycotting? Yo? Who that on that?

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01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: I think they did have a cell on TV. I

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: might have bought a TV from there. That's it, just

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Speaker 1: a TV and maybe an.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't some emergency soap. You just yeah, Because.

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Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, I am an Amazon girly.

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Speaker 2: And that's the problem. What what's the problem.

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 4: Both sides of the fly.

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Speaker 2: Explain Amazon and Target did the same thing. They committed

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Speaker 2: to these d.

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Speaker 4: I programs and then.

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01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: But then why didn't we boycott all of it? Why

1380
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: did we choose only one? I'm about to tell you

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: because niggas want Amazon. We said we're gonna go after

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01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: one of these cars. No, this is the selective ignorance, right,

1383
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: This is to me the selection, Like, let's boycott this

1384
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: one company for doing something that we're totally against, but

1385
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: we still go shot at.

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Speaker 6: The other one because nigga, if we can get the

1387
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 6: same day choice from the living room, from your phone, everything.

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: So then let me ask y'all, because we only chose

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Speaker 1: to do this one corporation. Do you think it really

1390
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: moves the needles?

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01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 4: You do?

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: Okay?

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: Why? I think it shows?

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01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: It shows something.

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 6: It shows that one of the biggest retailers in the

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01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 6: world has been punished by well in the country.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Target is a global.

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Speaker 6: The biggest in America, one of the beggining you manage America.

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 6: They're one of the biggest retailers in America. And for

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 6: them to lose money in their stock price see stock

1401
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 6: price talks ship. Because now it's New York City, Downtown

1402
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 6: New York City is taking notice to this. You get

1403
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. It's not some local ship where Jojo

1404
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 6: Farm got uh mom and pop Stove got got got

1405
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 6: bankrupt and Target is losing billions of dollars, which resonates

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 6: to people that are there.

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Speaker 4: Investors, share cut you off. This is the center of

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 4: council culture. If you can make it seem and they

1409
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 4: have that we don't f with them the more and

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01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 4: to see you there is to expose you.

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 6: Solid the some of the biggest minority groups in the world,

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Speaker 6: some of the biggest minority of groups that we are

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Speaker 6: afraid of in the world.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 6: The reason that they are so m impactful is because

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 6: they mobilize, and when they mobilize, they'll put out the

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 6: word to everybody in their crew that we are not

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01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 6: fucking with them no more. We're not going to lend

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01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 6: a dollar to advertising, We're not going to promote them,

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Speaker 6: We're not going to spend any money in their stores.

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 6: And it shows on your bottom line and on your spreadsheet.

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01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 6: And if you can affect a nigga spreadsheet, you can

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 6: affect how they do business.

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Speaker 1: Hurt them in their pockets, hurt them in the pocket,

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01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: and that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because full circle moment and and

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: my final thoughts, it's interesting to see the power of

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01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: the black dollar, while again when we are the underdogs,

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 1: but creating these systems where we get to own, we

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: get to make money, we get to educate our own communities.

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01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: We still have the people within our communities talking down

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: on those on those platforms. It's interesting. I don't, by

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 1: the way, shop at Target. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: If you know what.

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Speaker 1: I would, I would I would be I would be said.

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01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: If we as a community chosen to do with Amazon,

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: I just don't. Can I just say, black people, can

1439
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: we do one of these things that we don't really like.

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01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 1: Let's go to another the next corporation that we target.

1441
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: Just make sure no pun intended. Let's not target Amazon.

1442
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: You think this works and we don't need to do

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: it again.

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: I think no.

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 6: I think we need to do it to another, and

1446
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 6: the next person that get out of pocket, we do

1447
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 6: it to them, and then I think everybody will start

1448
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 6: to take notice the same way we take notice with

1449
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 6: other groups that Yo, you can't say nothing about the motherfuckers.

1450
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 6: You can't do nothing with them motherfuckers, because they'll punish you.

1451
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 6: I think once we start making examples of these corporations,

1452
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 6: then everybody else will take notice and follow suit.

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 4: I'll torusched you the board, meaning for the first person

1454
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 4: that gets a little tweet about were coming after your

1455
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 4: next they're gonna do something. Target is too visible, too

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01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 4: powerful for and they see the dollars. It wasn't something

1457
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 4: that somebody did for two weeks because we were a

1458
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 4: big two week We're good for two weeks weeks. I'm

1459
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 4: in March for two weeks. But that third I will say.

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: What's unfortunate too is his target. Target did a really

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01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: good job over the last five to ten years of

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01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: bringing in black brand like they did so good. So

1463
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: to see that it was someone either a tax right

1464
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: off or so performative or whatever they were doing it

1465
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: to get rid of it in a way that they were,

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01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: I thought that they were really moving the needle forward

1467
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: with black brands with black visibility. And so I think

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01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: that's also why it was so disappointing that they moved

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: that program, because they, to me, did a great job.

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Speaker 1: They did was showing that they stood by us through

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Speaker 1: b ALM. I know that a lot of influences that

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Speaker 1: got paid through Target. They Tabitha Brown has her her

1473
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: products in there. They really highlighted and shelved and put

1474
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: on shelves a lot of black brands.

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01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,879
Speaker 2: Like a lot of black hair product.

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and so to see that it was performed, I

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01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: think that that's really why we targeted it in because

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: it was a slap in the face that, oh y'all

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Speaker 1: really would.

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they my.

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01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 4: Friend if I think you my friend and you portray

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01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 4: me in any way, especially something, Yeah for somebody who

1483
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 4: you just caping for.

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh that's and I hate to tell you it's

1485
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 6: well deserved. I don't feel I don't feel like I've

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 6: heard that. Oh they just said that publicly, stepping down,

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01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 6: Like they just said publicly that they're not working with

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01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 6: the de I programs, but behind closed doors they still

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 6: have the money is allocated.

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Speaker 2: Accordingly, that's what they be saying. Yeah, even still niggas.

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: I've heard they're saying that with Walmart too, they're just

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 1: renamingdi it's not getting rid of.

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01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 4: But I'm like, trust me, it's somebody who I work

1494
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 4: in a lot of non profit spaces around the nation,

1495
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: and I'm engaged and plugged in. Money is getting cut off.

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01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: No one tell you it's just a little. It's not

1497
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: just about what's on the shelves. You know, no matter

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 4: where you are, companies cut checks.

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01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: Oh the marketing dollars not being cut at all, they're not.

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Speaker 4: And it's impact on our community in ways that we

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: can't that we that we won't even catch up for

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: three or four years.

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: I agree. So my last question to y'all if Amazon

1504
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: is next, y'all, do y'all give up on Amazon? Or

1505
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,520
Speaker 1: do you care about your same day deliveries.

1506
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 4: With a lot of stuff? I got this audio book,

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: Wait does a.

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 8: Job?

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 4: I can get it at overnight?

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01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: Your dog ship that I don't even know where to

1511
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 2: go shop for it physically except for Amazon. I know Amazon,

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: and you don't even know it to be on sales

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: something like now.

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'm not gonna lie. I love Amazon, I

1515
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: always say, and I keep saying it too. If I

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: get right.

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 6: Up, please your dog the two hundred dollars home depot, faucets,

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:56,839
Speaker 6: fly ship.

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Speaker 1: It's on Amazon sixty dollars, but not not Amazon being

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 1: the new shell everything else, okay.

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01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: Dog, Amazon is the mom used to look at the circles,

1522
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 5: the Sunday circles.

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01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 7: Amazon.

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: I love it so much.

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 4: I love Amazon at least browsing at least.

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: Amazon has us in a choke hold. I ain't gonna.

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Speaker 6: Kitchen handle against everything by one order. I could buy Pampers,

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Speaker 6: formula so everything some in search for my all in

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Speaker 6: one order.

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Speaker 2: She's just come in a box and in less than

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Speaker 2: two days.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think some ship could come out about bezos

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Speaker 1: and we all, I think we'd ignore it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie unfortunate, that is unfortunate, selective bignrans period. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's thank you for coming on again and joining me

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Speaker 1: in convo. You ain't really crack no muffins. It was

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: just good dialog. Enjoy all of us kind of disagreement

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Speaker 1: then coming to agreeance. That's kind of that's kind of

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Speaker 1: normally what our conversations are like.

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Speaker 4: And bring your families together.

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: Hearing all of it. You got anything?

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Speaker 1: I did not clip it up fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Times your community, your community was clipping it up.

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Speaker 1: We didn't clip it up, ignorance. I didn't pay I

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: don't pay for that much clips. It was literally already

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01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: had the one clip. And y'all just February April, you

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Speaker 1: are you are lying, you are lying. All Okay, So

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Speaker 1: we're ending this with each saying he still don't want

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: to give niggas no money because he and Barry's that

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01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: you just need to make money to treat people like humans. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the synopsis at the end. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any final thoughts? Just no to anybody.

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Speaker 4: No, All right, Barry, I want to make sure I

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Speaker 4: go back for the people who were in invest Fest.

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Speaker 4: There's some good people doing good things there there. I

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Speaker 4: know things will be twisted. Go connect the building.

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Speaker 1: Community, and not only that, if you can't make it,

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Speaker 1: I think it serves you as well to just go

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Speaker 1: look at the content and conversations that are had. So

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Speaker 1: if you go to eyl dot com, they normally post

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01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: all of the invest Fast conversations and kind of like

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Speaker 1: it said, do your homework. At the end of the day,

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01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: you got to do your homework. Checks ain't gonna just

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Speaker 1: be handed to you. Even if reparations does happen there,

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01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: They're not gonna just hand it to you. You gotta

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Speaker 1: do the homework. So, y'all, this is another episode. This

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Speaker 1: is a Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and

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