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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards, the show where every week I try

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Speaker 1: with me today is Billy Wayne Davis, comedian. That's I

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Speaker 1: That's a plug. Solide. I'm probably not more famous than

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Speaker 1: I am. Well, maybe the story of the guy we're

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Speaker 1: about to talk about today, we'll teach you how to

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Speaker 1: uh to self promote, because we are speaking today about

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Speaker 1: one of the great all time self promoters, man who

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Speaker 1: how to uh do medicine. Oh, he just wanted respect. No,

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Speaker 1: he just really wanted to try out stuff on people's bodies. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Gary Young. You ever heard of Gary Young? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. No, I haven't you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of Young Living essential oils. I've heard of essential oils

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Speaker 1: because I live in Los Angeles, right right. And the

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Speaker 1: reason you've heard of essentials, the reason they're like a

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Speaker 1: big thing in our culture in this country is Gary Young.

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Speaker 1: He's generally considered to be the father of essential oils.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously go bick thousands of years. But did

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Speaker 1: he come up with that too? Was that his line? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's accurate to like he's a he's a scammer.

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Speaker 1: But he did start the first big scam essential oil

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Speaker 1: company that they have all descended from. Like he he

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Speaker 1: turned it into a trend. So he is the Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the few things he's like, I'll be damned,

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Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, I can say that. I am. I am.

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Speaker 1: He's not the father of Uh well, we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: what happened to his baby in a little bit. On

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Speaker 1: June eighteen, the Christian Broadcasting Network published an obituary for

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Speaker 1: of until now Donald Gary Young. Here's how the CBN

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Speaker 1: described his life. Quote. Young spent thirty five years studying

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Speaker 1: the benefits and perfecting the extraction of essential oils while

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Speaker 1: building a billion dollar global business designed to share what

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Speaker 1: he deemed the gift of essential oils with millions of people.

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Speaker 1: So sharing his gift, sharing his gift. That's how you

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Speaker 1: gift for a nominal feature. Yes, that's that part. I

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Speaker 1: is about. It's about letting people sell access to selling

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Speaker 1: your gift to other people. Yes, because that's where the

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Speaker 1: for essential oils. You know that scam has been going

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Speaker 1: we apply that to things that smell nice? That's not dumb.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him. He's not a dumb guy.

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Speaker 1: He did recognize that market, He did recognize a market

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Speaker 1: that was his true talent, and as you will find out,

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Speaker 1: his talent was not medicine. The obituary describe Young as

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Speaker 1: June episode of The Essential Edge, the magazine for Gary's company,

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Speaker 1: Young Living, his wife wrote, quote, God was his foundation

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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount about Gary Young's early life. I picked

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Speaker 1: Gary was born in nineteen in Idaho. He grew up

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Speaker 1: That is a very Washington thing to ye. Now, according

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Speaker 1: to Gary Young's incredibly humble biography, D. Gary Young, The

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Speaker 1: World Leader in Essential Oils, quote that he walks today

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Speaker 1: book D. Gary Young, The World Leader in Essential Oils

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Speaker 1: conflict of interest. Tragically heartbreaking, Lee, I was not able

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425
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Speaker 1: live a little bit further west. But um, they're fucking

426
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Speaker 1: delicious because they've got like they're they're puff based, so

427
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Speaker 1: that you expect kind of like a Cheetos puff, but

428
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Speaker 1: there's crunchy as crunchy Cheetos, so they're like a little

429
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Speaker 1: like nugget of of crunchy cheesy goodness. They're so fucking tasty.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a follow up questions? Yes? Absolutely, Sativa

431
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: or indica. I don't smoke anymore, but when I did,

432
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Speaker 1: I just chain smoked marijuana and never just whatever, just whatever. Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: it's fun. Sophie is walking around with a laptop showing

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Speaker 1: it to our our audio guy Dan. I'm sorry, don't

435
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Speaker 1: attack the logos so they might give us money. It's

436
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: like a boner. I think it's a good logo. You don't,

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't, You wouldn't want to bear Talking about a

438
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Speaker 1: bear with an erection doesn't make you think of chips,

439
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: Because when I when I think of the crunchy goodness

440
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: of a delightful, happy time snack, I think of a

441
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: bear with a massive heart on that cheesy bear didn't.

442
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: That's what everybody says about bear dicks. It's cheesier than

443
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: you think they're going to be. You're hurting our chances

444
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: of a sponsorship, Sophie, this is off the rails trying

445
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: to do a nice ad plug for the people at

446
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Lesser evil backdoor your way into Dorito's ad. Here's money

447
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: is a disaster. Speaking of disasters, Gary Young had a

448
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: clinic in Rosarita Beach. Um what was in Tijuana. It

449
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: was called the Rosaria Beach Clinic. Tijuana and Rosarta are

450
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Speaker 1: separate towns. Rosaria is a lovely place by tram and

451
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: all there. It's great. So he has this clinic and uh,

452
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, he bragged that's only sixty three out of

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Speaker 1: a thousand of his cancer and Lupa's patients died, which

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Speaker 1: would be a pretty good rate of success if any

455
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Speaker 1: of those people were actually sick. See the reason that

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00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: he says that they had cancer in lupa is is

457
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Speaker 1: because he performed blood tests on them and those blood

458
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Speaker 1: tests came back positive for cancer or whatever it was

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Speaker 1: he was treating them for. Now, the l A Times

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Speaker 1: tasked John Hurst, a great journalist, with investigating the clinic.

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00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: In What Hurst and his team did next is one

462
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Speaker 1: of my favorite stories in all of journalists. So Hurst

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Speaker 1: sent away for a blood testing kit from the clinic.

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Speaker 1: She's glowing right now. I'm so excited. His whole demeanor

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Speaker 1: changed as soon as he got to this paragraph, and

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Speaker 1: I just have to say it was very It was

467
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Speaker 1: like you could see it happened a frustrating time in

468
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Speaker 1: the history of journalism. Understand that I love to run

469
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Speaker 1: into stories like this that just remind you of how

470
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Speaker 1: powerful the medium can be. And this is a great one.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't have to go to team Wana to

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Speaker 1: the clinic itself to get your blood tested. You could

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Speaker 1: send away for a kid um and so Hurst did that.

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Speaker 1: He sent for a blood testing kit from the clinic

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Speaker 1: and Gary Young sent him a kid which included several

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Speaker 1: sharp pins and two glass slides. The patient was supposed

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Speaker 1: to puncture their own finger and basically make blood slides

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Speaker 1: out of it and put it in the mail. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then mail it back. It sounds scientific, right, that's

480
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: super psychotics out. So Hurst and his colleagues went ahead

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Speaker 1: with the process. That's a fun conversation. Just do it

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00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah. A time supporter prepared two slides using

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Speaker 1: blood from a healthy seven year old, twenty pound tabby

484
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Speaker 1: cat named Boomer that belongs to Glendale veterinarian Ahmed Kalik.

485
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Speaker 1: The slides were presented at the clinic by the reporter,

486
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Speaker 1: who identified himself as a perspective client. Sharon Reynolds, a

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Speaker 1: health educator at the clinic who also cast horoscopes for

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Speaker 1: patients at fifty dollars each, examined the slots under a

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Speaker 1: microscope to projects an image on a television monitor. She

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Speaker 1: said she found evidence of aggressive cancer in the cell,

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Speaker 1: as well as liver problems. The cancer, she said, had

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Speaker 1: been in the reporter's system for four or five years.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, huh. You must have suspected something, she said.

494
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: Gazing up with sorrowful eyes. I did. I definitely suspected something. Next,

495
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: the reporter had another blood test performed that day at

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Speaker 1: the clinic, using his own actual blood this time, and

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Speaker 1: this time Sharon Reynolds claimed to have found latent cancer,

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Speaker 1: but thankfully not aggressive cat this one sist. She also

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Speaker 1: stated that the liver dysfunction she found evidence of in

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Speaker 1: the cat's blood was still present in his human blood. Well,

501
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: he's been that cat. He'd been sucking that cat. Did

502
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Speaker 1: you fuck a cat? He's like, okay, Well, now we're

503
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: getting weird. Now you're asking questions I didn't want to answer.

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Speaker 1: She suggested another test, and the report she provided the journalists,

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Speaker 1: she wrote, quote, elevated level of toxicity must be reduced

506
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: in order to promote assimilation, increased oxygenation, and prevent the generation.

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00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: We recommend a supervised program of cleansing, detox and rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of their advice is based

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Speaker 1: on that Adam Sandler character, the Cajun Man. It's just

510
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: say Asian after a lot of fancy words, and people

511
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: are okay, ship, oh yeah, that that sounds about right.

512
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: That sounds like a doctor thing. You do feel like

513
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: that at the doctor. Sometimes when the good I just realized,

514
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: nation tell me anything, because I don't know anything. That's

515
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: why you really rely on the fact that medical schools

516
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: have their ship together. It is ospreys are flying past

517
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: us right now. I saw those that the they're out

518
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: by the Burbanking report the other day. A bunch of

519
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: fucking crayon eaters in the sky. But those are those

520
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: have the presidential seal on it. Oh, Penzas or Trump

521
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: is okay, yeah, because I saw him the other day Tuesday.

522
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: I guess I flew out of Burbank. Those are presidential

523
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: sealed ones. And then they had marine one over on

524
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: this barrack. I'll always remember when fucking every time Obama

525
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: would come to town and take the motorcade, it was

526
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: just a nightmare on the roads. You couldn't do anything. No,

527
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: I don't want to drive. That's gonna suck. Presidents stop

528
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: stop visiting cities. Just go to the sticks, like yeah,

529
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: go to Duluth. And they're like, I don't want to,

530
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: we know, we know, but don't come. There's enough people

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Speaker 1: don't put that like Duluth. It's fine, it's fine. I'm

532
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: sure your traffic is great right now. Yes, I'm sure

533
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: what you call traffic is wonderful. Yeah. So the detoxicification

534
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: program that they suggested is not cheap. It costs two

535
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: thou dollars a week and payment was required in advance.

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00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: There was, however, a less in tense at home version

537
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: for ninety dollars plus four d vitamins and supplements sold

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00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: by the vitamin company that Young had founded in California.

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: So the only times took that route and had the

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Speaker 1: vitamins sent to them. They pretended to do the treatment,

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Speaker 1: and when it came time for a follow up blood

542
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: test to see if the treatment had worked, they mailed

543
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: in a third set of blood slides. This time the

544
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: blood came from a chicken they bought from a Chinatown

545
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: poultry shop. Yes, really really putting that bit just a

546
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: little fairly well. I like there was a conversation like

547
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: where do we get what do we do this time?

548
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: When we do this was like I was in Chinatown.

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00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: You get buy a chicken. Let's get a chicken blood.

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Speaker 1: This is the funnest day at work. Ever, now, as

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00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: the Times noted, quote, red cells and chicken blood are

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00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: oval shaped and have no nuclei, distinct from the round

553
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: non nucleated red cells in the blood of mammals when

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00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: viewed under a microscope, experts say. Nevertheless, the Rosarita Beach

555
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Clinic diagnosed the chicken blood as if it were from

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Speaker 1: a human. There's inflammation in the liver. The clinics report said,

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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: your blood is indicating the possibility of pre limp foament condition.

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00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: It appears as though you've recently undergone a high upset

559
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: in your life, which is weakened your immune response considerably.

560
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Did you ate a bunch of feathers? Were you slaughtered

561
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: to provide nuggets? What's the kind of stress we're seeing

562
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: in your blood? It feels like someone chopped your head off.

563
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: Is that what happened? Is that? Is that what happened?

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: I did lose my hand. The report closed with the

565
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: identical prescription for their detox treatment. Young's people didn't even

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: bother to type it out differently. Next, the l A

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00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Times went to a real doctor, the head of hemato

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00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: pathology at u C l A, and asked her to

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: look at the blood without being told. She immediately recognized

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00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: the chicken blood as chicken blood. Immediately said yourself, this

571
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: is a chicken. I have stuff to because that's what

572
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: happens when you're a doctor. Sharon Reynolds, the health educator

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00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: at Gary Young's Clinic, was eventually confronted about the fact

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00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: that she had been analyzing chicken blood as if it

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00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: were human blood. Her response is one of the funniest

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00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: things I've ever read. Quote I have never seen chicken

577
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: blood before, so I wouldn't know if that had been

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00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: human blood, that would have been an accurate analysis of

579
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the blood. I mean, it's a solid argument, solid argument. No,

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00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: that chicken head cancer. You that was a human, that

581
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: chicken was a human. I would be good at my job, right, right?

582
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: Do I understand science? Do I understand science or what?

583
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: She went on to complain that she had analyzed the

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00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: blood in good faith and that her diagnosis of the

585
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: cat's blood was still legit. Quote it was not a

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Speaker 1: healthy cat. The cat probably has leukemia. If the cat

587
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: is acting healthy, the cat could be a carrier of leukemia.

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00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: So the l A Times went to a vet to

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Speaker 1: get the cat tested for keimia. The cat was fine.

590
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: This concludes one of the greatest examples of journalistic shade

591
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: throwing in the history of the profession. Kudos to John Hurst.

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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: I love you, and I would nominate you for Pulitzer

593
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: if it was not. That was beautiful where yours on? Today,

594
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: We're going to the vet, the vet. I'm gonna see

595
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: if this cat has care still say just saying ship now.

596
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: The year after this article was published in Gary Young

597
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: was arrested in California on numerous charges, including selling bogus

598
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: medical equipment and of course, pretending to be a doctor.

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00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: He was fine ten tho dollars and his clinic which

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00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: it's a wheelchair, that's a chair. It's a wheelchair. It's

601
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. It's a wheelchair. You push it. You don't

602
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: have the education to know that is a chair, sir.

603
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: He was fine ten thous dollars and his clinic was

604
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: shut down. So Gary moved back to Washington and started

605
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: practicing medicine without a license again. He was arrested in

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00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Fife and sentenced to sixty days a dale in five

607
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: in Fife, Washington. Okay, I lived in Seattle for six years,

608
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: so I'm aware of these areas, which makes it even funnier. Yes,

609
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: I could see yeah, just straight from California to five

610
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: two times in the same year, busted for pretending to

611
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: be a doctor. You gotta keep. You gotta respect the

612
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: hustle when you think. At one point, he's like, I

613
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: don't know what else I can do. At this point,

614
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: pretending a doctor to be a doctor is all I have,

615
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: all I know. Gary Young founded Young Living, an essential

616
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: oil business aimed at turning his passion for healing and

617
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: plants into a profitable international enterprise. In January, Gary Young

618
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: was arrested for assaulting several family members or employees or

619
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: both with an axe. It is very hard to tell

620
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: if this one actually had I thought and I ain't

621
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: gonna let that tree win. Now that one may not

622
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: have happened. Um, it's in all of like the different

623
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: posts I find about it, but I have not been

624
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: able to find any records of it in the Washington

625
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Superior Court. Um. But it's possible I'm using the wrong term,

626
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: or some records from that far back got fucked up.

627
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Any ax will things in the Northwest, there's so many excribes.

628
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: Just don't even bring it up. It's a misdemeanor here

629
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: to try to kill someone with an AX ticket. UM.

630
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: I did look through back issues of the Spoken Chronicle,

631
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: but they're ninety four issues, weren't digitized, So I don't

632
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: know if that's true. The only reputable source who repeats

633
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: the story is dr Eva Briggs, and she doesn't link

634
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: to any outside confirmation that hasn't happened. Um, So that's

635
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: all the detail I'll go into. But it's possible he

636
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: assaulted a bunch of his family members with an AX

637
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't kill them. Definitely didn't kill anybody, No

638
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: allegations of that. Just an axe assault like sort of

639
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: like a shining thing hitting the door. But it's hard. Oh,

640
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah he was. He was just like trying

641
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to get at him with the axe. Okay, yeah, I

642
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: guess if you swing, that is assault either if you

643
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: don't hit them. I would say it's fair. If like

644
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: someone was coming at me and I closed the door

645
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: and they start hacking the door down with an ax,

646
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: even if they don't hit me with an axe, I

647
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: would sue them for assault. That's I would report them. Yeah,

648
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: I left to press charges. It felt like he was

649
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: trying to hurt me. I feel like I was assaulted,

650
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: feel like he was really trying to get at me. Now,

651
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: just for legal ends, there's no verification for that. Haven't

652
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: run into evidence that it's true, but you'll hear it

653
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: repeated a lot. I felt like we had to address

654
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: it just because it's like one of the more lurid

655
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: stories you run into. Now you just don't want those tweets.

656
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: What about to act? What about the acts? I don't know, man,

657
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't find any. If you find evidence of the

658
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: acts thing, let me know. I would love to learn

659
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: that it's true. We can remove it from allegedly acted

660
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: and just acts. Just tried to hit people with an ax. Now.

661
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: The next part of the approved Gary Young story goes

662
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: like this. In the early nineteen nineties, he traveled to

663
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: France to study distillation. He bought a hundred and sixty

664
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: acres of farmland in Idaho and filled it with peppermint.

665
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Where does he get money? I mean, he's been caughting

666
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: all these two thousand dollars only find like tan grhand

667
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: and get right. And if like a thousand people paid

668
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: two grand a week for presumably like that's that's some

669
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: good money. You know, he's probably doing pretty well, that's yeah.

670
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: And he sounds like he's probably decent keeping his honey. Yeah,

671
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: he's no overhead in the business because you don't have

672
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: to pay off any medical school bills or actually do

673
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: any tests. Tests a good business. Yes, it's actually really great.

674
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: It's way cheaper to be a fake doctor than a

675
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: real wife. He just looked at college. He's like, that's

676
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: a scam too. I know what you're doing. You can

677
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: just be a doctor a while for they catch you eventually,

678
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: but then you just moved Yeah, you just faked doctor

679
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: for a while. There's a time limit and you got

680
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: to move on. God, the world was so different before

681
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: the Internet. It was yes, and you're like, hey, you

682
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: can't fake doctor anymore. Why because of Tom from my space?

683
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Because it's Tom and there's goddamn Google. Sons of bitches. Now, Yeah,

684
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: he bought hundred sixty acres of farmland, Idaho field with peppermint, tansy,

685
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: and lavender. He married his third wife, Mary, an opera

686
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: singer and businesswoman with experience in the world of multi

687
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: level marketing. She seems to have basically said, well, what off.

688
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Instead of getting constantly arrested for impersonating a doctor, we

689
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: just at a company that impersonates a pharmacy, but with plants.

690
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: I knew I married you for a reason. My AX tape,

691
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, what you you tell me when it's time

692
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: to hit stuff with the axe. This head injury. We

693
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: just got some brains to this operation. I left a

694
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: lot of mine on the tree. Yes, we'll go back

695
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: and get it. Here's how the New Yorker describes how

696
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: the Young Living company got it start quote, the couple

697
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: renovated a run down building in Riverton, Utah, to uses

698
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: the headquarters of Young Living Essential Oils. Young mixed his

699
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: abundance oil blend into the paint he used on the walls.

700
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: Now the abundance oil does seem to have worked. Over

701
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: the next few years, Young Living expanded over the nation

702
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and became one of the premium essential oil producers in

703
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: the United States. In fact, Young Living deserves most of

704
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: the credit for sparking our current national obsession with essential oils.

705
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: They claim to produce the highest quality products, maintaining a

706
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: strict chain of custody from farm to bottle. We will

707
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: evaluate that claim in Part two. But of course Young

708
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Living was not just selling lavender oil to people and

709
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: leaving it at that. They were selling cures and treatments

710
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: for serious diseases. The company engaged in a constant game

711
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: of brinksmanship with the FDA trying to make their products

712
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: sound as much like medicine as possible without breaking the law.

713
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: One year after Young Living was founded, Senator or in

714
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: a Hatch of Utah past the Dietary Supplement and Health

715
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Education Act or does shea disha the sha the usually acronym,

716
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: which is not like an acronym I think you'd use.

717
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Does shea doeshia? It sounds like diarrhea. I'm just gonna says,

718
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: we think of diarrhea. Yeah, some aid came up with it.

719
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: They giggled. Make him say, make hash may Hatch say this?

720
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: It is kind of his equivalent, like the political equivalent

721
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: of or in Hatch having diarrhea over the country because

722
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: the consequences of this law had have been terrible. Yeah,

723
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: I've because the way we were going, I was like, wait,

724
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: did he do something good because it seems out of

725
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: the ordinary for him. No, he did something the opposite

726
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: of good at yah. Yeah, and we will get into

727
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: exactly what he did. But first, you know what's not

728
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: like diarrhea. That's a bad ad pivot. So Iphie's saying

729
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: that's not okay, um, that's a good product. Not you

730
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: know what, nobody likes diarrhea, Try not diarrhea. I'll go

731
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: with that if those are the options, So you give

732
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: me a choice. Okay, products, we're back. We're talking about

733
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: does shea or in hatches bowels bowels? Yeah? So, uh

734
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: does she a regulated dietary supplements? But when I say regulated,

735
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: I don't mean it in the senses that it like

736
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: introduced stronger controls over like their quality. Um. It actually

737
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: just essentially it's one of those things where like you

738
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: you say you're regulating something, but you deregulated. Because of dasia,

739
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: the people who make dietary supplements and like natural health

740
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: aids and stuff are essentially allowed to make vague health

741
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: claims about what their products did without getting FDA approval

742
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: to show that they worked even safe for money, Yeah,

743
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: for money. This law is why a bazillion different shady

744
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: companies can sell turmeric and vaguely suggest that it cures cancer.

745
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: It's also why if you analyze the turmeric pills that

746
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: these people claim care cancer, those pills might just be

747
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: saw dust in lies with no actual term eric in them.

748
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: And no one is responsible for making sure that you

749
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: get what you pay for, because you know that's what

750
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: that's what dashia. Does it mean? Thank you or in

751
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: hatch actually have that written right there, thank you or

752
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: in hatch you're welcome. As a result of Dashia, the

753
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: supplement industry grew to become the number one economic force

754
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: in the state of Utah. Natural remedies currently account for

755
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: something like ten billion dollars a year in state revenue.

756
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Really really yeah, ten billion billions. That's where you do it.

757
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that Utah is the center of.

758
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: If you're gonna sell natural remedies and vaguely claim that

759
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: they help with cancer, Utah's where your company is going

760
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: to be based. And if you're going to run a

761
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: business where you abduct people's like misbehaving teenagers and put

762
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: them in a work camp that some kids diet, Utah's

763
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: where you're gonna do that too. And they're both because

764
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: of or in Hatch, I know how things deregulate fake

765
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: medicine and let people toward your teenagers get a game

766
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: before they get older. I'll vote for him. I know

767
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: his name. He's been around forever. I can't be good

768
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: in two thousand. It's worse than you thought. Utah really

769
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: dark stuff happens here. Ah, You just thought the Mormon

770
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: stuff was bad. Utah our capitals filled with gay and

771
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: trans kids who have been abandoned by their families and

772
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: live on the streets. Not a joke, just a serious problem.

773
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: Utah has Utah. Thanks Robert Redford. Wait what the sun dance? Right? Right? Right?

774
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: The only weird to hold a major film industry event

775
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: in a place where you can't get liquor? It is

776
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: and then the beer's like, yeah, it's that near beer

777
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: ship we had an Oklahoma ought to be a crime.

778
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: I remember when I first went there on tour and

779
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what is I've got a serious problem?

780
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: What is happening here? And They're like no, no, no,

781
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: was just half And I was like, oh why what

782
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: is the point? No one could explain it. Yeah, it's

783
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: it's nonsense. In two thousand, Gary Young opened the Young

784
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: Life Research Clinic in uh Springvale, Utah. The clinic's goal

785
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: was to administer essential oils and other alternative medicine to

786
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: patients suffering from cancer, heart disease, depression, and other life

787
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: threatening conditions that should not be treated with a reganar oil.

788
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: According to the New Yorker quote, the clinic employed a

789
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: pediatrician named Sherman Johnson, who had recently had his medical

790
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: license reinstated. About a decade later, Johnson had been investigated

791
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: by the state Medical Board after a woman had died

792
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: while he was treating her for cancer. According to the

793
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Salt Lake Tribune, after a nurse raised questions about the

794
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: woman's death, the body was exhumed. In a subsequent probe,

795
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: it was determined that she had multiple personality disorder but

796
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: not cancer, that Johnson believed her story that she had

797
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: been injected with cancer by a group of witches and

798
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: gay doctors, and that she had died from an overdose

799
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: of DeMar all administered by Johnson. Johnson pleaded guilty to manslaughter.

800
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: Man Gary Young. When he starts his clinic does hire

801
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: a real doctor to run it. But it's this doctor. Man.

802
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I like the way your mind works. I like the

803
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: way your mind works. Redwood that fell on me, I

804
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: think it might have been a gay witch doctor. Now

805
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: that you say you got me that dem roll which

806
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: nothing against dem roll, that's not that's not the fault here.

807
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: We're not blaming demarroll. Now, I took a look at

808
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: your test results. I got one question, have you ever

809
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: been around any gay witch doctor, because that's what they're

810
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: reveiling that you've been. You've been infected with cancer. You

811
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: get injected with cancer, injected with cancer. Sometimes I'll let

812
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: people just syringe me, but all a usually asked. But

813
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: one time, I one time I didn't say, isn't this cancer?

814
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: It's not cancer? Right? I don't want any cancer. Oh

815
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: that's that name. I should ask those witch doctors. They're tricksy.

816
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: I was it sundance around all those Hollywood drinking some

817
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: near beer with Ora and Hatch is crazy? Oh boy,

818
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get the tour of Utah. That's a

819
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: mixed blessing. It's actually nicer than it's a lovely state.

820
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: It's very nice, geographically beautiful, and then yeah, like every

821
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: part of the United States, it's beautiful. You start talking

822
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: to people and you're what is happened? What the hell

823
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: is going on? It's pretty, ain't it? It's okay? Are

824
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: you married to three of your sisters? Oh? No, yes,

825
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: here you want Sandy eight beer. There's a regano while

826
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: in it. In case of which dot you gave you cancer?

827
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: There's guy witch doctors down in that park down They're

828
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: big careful. As Young Living expanded, bringing in tens of

829
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: millions of dollars in revenue, Gary Young built a farm

830
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: in Mona, Utah to act as a beautiful living growing

831
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: ad for his company. He also built other stuff on

832
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: his farm, including a replica Wild West town and a

833
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: literal castle. He started calling himself Sir Gary and hosting

834
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: jousting turnament, which you would compete in wearing full plate armor,

835
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: just like the owner's manual said, Just like the owner's manuals.

836
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: See as he lowers his visor and charges someone, this

837
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: is what God wants right back, following the owner's manual. Sorry,

838
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: I gotta do levinicus real quick, Oh God. As the

839
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: money rolled in. As the money rolled in, Gary Young's

840
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: ambitions expanded well beyond the fake doctoring that had initially

841
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: started him off. He began planning a two and fifty

842
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: million dollar theme park called Mount Young Moore. It would

843
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: be a place where families could relax in five star tells, joust,

844
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Speaker 1: and gaze upon a mountain with his face carved onto it.

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Speaker 1: Young himself would later deny any of this was ever planned,

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Speaker 1: but The New Yorker interviewed David Sterling, who was young

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Speaker 1: living CEO at the time. Sterling confirmed that all these

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Speaker 1: were real plans at one point, saying, quote, it was

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Speaker 1: just crazy what they were trying to build out there,

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Speaker 1: so they had nothing, He had nothing to do. He's

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Speaker 1: definitely clearly tried to dissociate himself with it. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: paid me a lot of money, but I had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with that. His claim is to The New Yorker,

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00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: is that he was trying to really just switch the

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Speaker 1: company to focusing on just selling the essential oils rather

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Speaker 1: than running a ridiculous vanity theme park slash unregistered surgery

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Speaker 1: empire like Gary Young wanted. So he didn't future in

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Speaker 1: the adult jaw state. He did not think that was

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Speaker 1: a great idea. More, honey, John, want to go to

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Speaker 1: the jail resort. We can see this guy's face carved

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Speaker 1: on the mountain. He's a fake doctor. Don't we get

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00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: to ram each other their own horses. I'm gonna be honest,

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Speaker 1: if when I was like nine, someone had said you

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Speaker 1: want to go hit your family with like lances, I

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Speaker 1: would have been like, fuck, yes, yes, absolutely, Well that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. If you did it, there would be like

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Speaker 1: way like Thanksgiving would be like where it's a good

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Speaker 1: it's a good business. We just go jousting on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: I feel like enough jousting could heal this country's political division.

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Speaker 1: Just just legalize leg and hamp and and jousting. That

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00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: will take care of a lot of angst and essential

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00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: oil and essential oils. God, so his mind is fast

873
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 1: like where he goes as fast it really he really

874
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Speaker 1: has the mind of a man who was badly injured

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Speaker 1: by a tree. Giant tree fell on his head. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's just what. Yes, you know, when I wrote this,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that much about the head injury. But

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00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you're right, it really ties a lot. Makes a lot

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00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: of the decisions were like, well this makes you know what,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make a little sense when when you consider

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Speaker 1: It's something I think about as I read through more

882
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: and more of the stories of these terrible people. How

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00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: many of the worst people in history explainable by like

884
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: you got hit in the head, like Hitler and the

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00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: fucking trenches in World War One, You've got some brain

886
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: damage like the more that we learned about, just like

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Speaker 1: any of our soldiers who spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: around heavy artillery. There's like these little micro like fucking

889
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: things to your brain where you get like CTE and

890
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Speaker 1: stuff from it, and it's like, oh yeah, he was

891
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: like just hanging out next to artillery for four years.

892
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Speaker 1: Of course that did something. It didn't help. If you're

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Speaker 1: a baseball fan, you know Don zimmer Is used to

894
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: play for the old Yankees coach. He was just like,

895
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: he just looks like that kind of damage. It's putting

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Speaker 1: him in charge where he's just like, what, yeah, it's

897
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: just bad for you, yes, yeah. Well, and then we're

898
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Speaker 1: like he's the strongest from the war. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think he should be saying what to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't be listening to him. He's in the

901
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: corner hitting stuff right now. He's slamming his head into

902
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: the wall. Real are so uh this guy? Sterling claims that, yeah,

903
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: he wanted to switch the company's focus to just essential

904
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Speaker 1: oils rather than ridiculous vanity in the unregistered surgery and

905
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: stuff that Gary Young was into. Uh. This did not

906
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: work out, and Young fired Sterling. The company claims for

907
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: performance reasons, but in an email Sterling gave to UM

908
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Speaker 1: The New Yorker, Young gave this explanation quote, Satan exercise

909
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: dominion over you to the point where you started thinking

910
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: that you had knowledge and ability greater than anyone else,

911
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: including me. The creator of the company does sound like

912
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: some head injury talking there. It sounds like he wanted

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Speaker 1: to sum up what he said. He was like, you

914
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: didn't share my blurry vision. He did not share my

915
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: very blurry and distinct vision from the company. Where The

916
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: New Yorker reached out to Young Living about this distinctly

917
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: non standard response from a CEO, the company spokesperson told them, quote,

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Speaker 1: successful company founders are often cut from a different cloth

919
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: in the rest of us, which is true of Gary

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Speaker 1: Young and his pioneering cowboy spirit. That is not technically incorrect.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people want to be doctors. A lot

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00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: of people say cool. A lot of people say you

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Speaker 1: shouldn't drown a baby in a hot tub. Those people

924
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: don't know if it will stop your medical career. But

925
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Speaker 1: they don't know about Mexico. They've never been to Rosarita.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of a little thing called Mexico. Now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot more to say about Gary

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Speaker 1: Young's pioneering spirit and its impact on the world, But

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Speaker 1: that's all going to have to wait until Thursday, part

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Speaker 1: two of our epic series Gary Young, the fake doctor

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Speaker 1: who killed his own baby. Well you got any plug plug?

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Speaker 1: I will be on tour for the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Austin for the Moontower Festival. I'll be

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Speaker 1: in Colorado next week all over If you just go

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Speaker 1: to b w D tour dot com, all that ship.

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Speaker 1: Check out b w D tour dot com. See him

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Speaker 1: at the moon Tower, which sounds like something Gary Young

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Speaker 1: would build. Um absolutely does cures blindness. Here's Blindness. I'm

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Speaker 1: Robert Evans this podcast Here's Blindness, and you can find

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Speaker 1: it our website Behind the Bastards dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Instagram and on the twits at at

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Speaker 1: Bastards pot. You can find me on the Twitter at

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Speaker 1: I right, Okay, I have a new podcast called It

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Speaker 1: Could Happen Here It's It's depressing. Yes, that's the podcast.

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Speaker 1: behind the Bastard shirts. You can also just buy shirts

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Speaker 1: to hide your nakedness from God's angry vision. Um. But

949
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