WEBVTT - Lorenzo Neal

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to It. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's getting down to do it, Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>them about it, then we're about to let you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all say what a grit? It doesn't come singular?

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<v Speaker 1>A grid? Another episode of cut to It. Steve, what's up, bro? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing? Brother man? I'm doing good. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing good backstage? What's up man, man, I'm hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 1>How about y'all? Not too bad? Always a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have you here here every week, though, it's always a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure making sure. I'm glad. I want to say it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of week it is like then you suck.

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<v Speaker 1>You always got to add value. So if I'm adding value,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. There you go, there you go. But we

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<v Speaker 1>were having a conversation the other day around uh, what

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<v Speaker 1>was it stadiums. Yeah, so just the other day Steve

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<v Speaker 1>and I are riding around going to get something to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, something was on ESPN and they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about spate stadiums and uh might have been about the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles the old vet where they had you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>jail undernet, and it got me thinking. I looked over

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<v Speaker 1>at my guy said, hey, uh, you know I was

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<v Speaker 1>here about these things. I said, Um, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it? When you were there? Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>when everybody got to the stadium or or the field,

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<v Speaker 1>did you go look at it? And you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>response was like super interesting to me. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why I was talking with the g We just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just you know, like how different it is

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<v Speaker 1>at a stadium or a dome or arena as a

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<v Speaker 1>player versus as a media personnel. As a player, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not get to see as much of the inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the stadium because you went in as an opponent.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to your locker, You went into your locker

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<v Speaker 1>a vision of locker room, you got dressed, you did

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<v Speaker 1>whatever in training room, blah blah blah. You come out,

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the field, So you're not really experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone else talks about. When you think about Limbo

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<v Speaker 1>or Soldier Field or um School candlestick, you know all

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of stadiums. So I've been at Lambeau a

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<v Speaker 1>number of times as a player, but I've only been

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<v Speaker 1>at Lambo one time as analysts. Really cool. As a player,

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<v Speaker 1>You're fly into Appleton where Appleton Apple t o n Appleton, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the two thousand and eight, two thousand seven

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<v Speaker 1>what every year they used to piggy Wiggly. You stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at the same hotel. It was very much not very big.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they got a dang top golf next to the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Really cool. However, also too, when you go into the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>it used to just being like this neighborhood. As a player,

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<v Speaker 1>Lambeau has always been Lambeau where it's in this neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>It's big old stadium, and right across street from the

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<v Speaker 1>big old stadium you can see a family who literally

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<v Speaker 1>are You can park on their line for right and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so iconic. It's just awesome. But as an

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<v Speaker 1>analyst it's remarkable. Lambo still has the original foundation, the

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<v Speaker 1>brick I believe that was like seven that's still in there.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have a strip, but it's only on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the of the packers. You don't see it

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<v Speaker 1>as a visitor, so I've seen certain parts to have sweets.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they just they've added more and more to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just remarkable. Lambo feel is Lambeau is iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>is super special. It's a it's just a place where

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a fan and you day day dream dream

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<v Speaker 1>that night about playing the NFL and Lambo, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be more than what you could have ever dreamed about.

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings It's newer stadium was just being able to

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<v Speaker 1>just just unbelievable, unbelievable. Dallas is the same way. You know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a T n T stadium, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a great stadium on steroids, right. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>did a commercial in Allas Stadium before it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>opened up, when they were still kind of doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to see how large the vision locker

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<v Speaker 1>rooms are. One stadium that was just trash. Yeah. Um

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<v Speaker 1>quote uh San Diego chargers there when they were the chargers,

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<v Speaker 1>quote calm dump. Why what made it a dump? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't take care of it and you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. And we played down there and my wife

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<v Speaker 1>told me they were in a suite and they had

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<v Speaker 1>a clogged toilet and one of the sweets. Yellow water

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<v Speaker 1>was running down the windows of the sweets like stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Man, Yeah, you know that's a that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is the world. I'll go with, Yes, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, as you sit back as a fan

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<v Speaker 1>or on the outside looking in, and I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're playing, you're always you know, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the game and getting hype. You don't get to see

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Were there other stadiums? Could you like? And

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to Lamb, but just because I think

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who do you know when you're there? And why

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<v Speaker 1>I say that is when you walk in and you're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is it and you said, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable. It's more than you can imagine. But is

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<v Speaker 1>there a presence? There is there that vibe of old

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<v Speaker 1>school you know, running football and just you know Lombardi.

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<v Speaker 1>All that I think depends on the team. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how good the team is doing, depends on the time

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<v Speaker 1>of year. I mean you if you're there playing in September,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel the same the way it's gonna look,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in November December when its cold, it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the same. Um. I remember playing when I was

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<v Speaker 1>with the Baltimore Raiders, we were playing, uh thinking the

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<v Speaker 1>division around, We're playing New England patre Rish and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to want to win a super Bowl in that

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game. Nope, none of the fans sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like fifteen degrees at night. They stood the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. My wife goes, I wish we could have

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<v Speaker 1>just sat down a little bit, but she couldn't because

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be he wouldn't have been able to say

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<v Speaker 1>so like stuff like that, Pittsburgh playing that night in

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Banana, especially if for Baltimore Raven the discuss and

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<v Speaker 1>the hate professional hate unbelievable. There's just some places that

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<v Speaker 1>when you go h Philly old just current Philly, Old Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>their fans just make it make the game what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>What would be bucket list that you have yet to

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<v Speaker 1>expect any sport. I was supposed to go and then

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<v Speaker 1>I broke my arm um and then good friend I

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to go see play tennis. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>broke my arm and he ended up having that world

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<v Speaker 1>record fifteen hour match that that John isner Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get a chance to go see him play

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Out in London. I can't which one was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh he had that fifteen hour match in tennis, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't spend anything about tennis. Brothers. I've been, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been Australian Open. So I enjoyed that. That was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. I saw some saw some players playing on

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<v Speaker 1>center court. Saw Serena went out there. Um, that's got

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<v Speaker 1>a rank up there. That's got a rank up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Or or tennis um down in New York, been there,

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<v Speaker 1>men Peyton, saw John down there. So I was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Any anybody list for you, Joe, Um, I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 1>just going from a golf perspective, you know, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think of the same thing. Just going to the

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<v Speaker 1>Masters would be yeah cool just to walk those hold

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<v Speaker 1>grounds and and go and see that and another one

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool and and and it's might lean more

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<v Speaker 1>towards the event than the venue, but uh like going

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<v Speaker 1>to when o U Texas college football game, just to

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<v Speaker 1>how they crowd after it down there were just to

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and watch and that would be a great experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my to college. Being local. Got in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been, of course to Dean Smith Center. Never had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go see you and ce do. So

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'd love to do. That's that's my bucket list.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you'd be surprised of the Duke facility. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've been to do once, haven't been again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, like the Rock Washington play, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>it very um it's tiny, super but then they have

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<v Speaker 1>but everything is old school, even a popcorn makers old

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<v Speaker 1>school Agnes that's serving the popcorns she bought a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years old. I've really groan and love and respect how

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<v Speaker 1>much of the workers and how much detailed work it

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<v Speaker 1>really takes to run a run a place on game day,

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<v Speaker 1>hours and hours before um, sometimes fifteen sixteen hours before

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<v Speaker 1>the game has started. People have busted their chops busted there,

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<v Speaker 1>but just so that when those people walk through three

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half, three hours before the game, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been so much done for the players, but more for

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<v Speaker 1>the fans and experience that you received that you never

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<v Speaker 1>know what has happened. You don't know how dirty or

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<v Speaker 1>how clean uh, those seats were prior to you getting there,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone has to Someone has to clean that seat,

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<v Speaker 1>someone has to clean that stall, someone has to clean

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<v Speaker 1>and refill all of those napkin holders and basketball they

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pull up the court, got got got forbid. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hockey team in the same facility, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>where you had to go overnight. Someone a crew works

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<v Speaker 1>all night, take up the basketball floor, bring the ice

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<v Speaker 1>back out. It's it's a huge operation. M I know

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<v Speaker 1>one stadium. They should have done a better job at

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<v Speaker 1>that squad. Comment Sandy, that's true. Man. Who we got

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on the cut to a podcast? We've got

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<v Speaker 1>Lorenz O'Neil, a four time pro bowler and All Pro,

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the two thousand's NFL All Decade Team,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly, just a fountain of wisdom. Lorenzo O'Neil

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<v Speaker 1>on the Cut to a Podcast. Our first segment is

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<v Speaker 1>called get Iced Up Smithy. Go ahead and give him

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<v Speaker 1>the first question. Are you ready? Okay? The strangest thing

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<v Speaker 1>You've ever eaten? And where were you? Oh strangest thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever eaten? Man? I think it was a grasshopper.

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<v Speaker 1>I was member Buddy Joey Jordan's. We were in Lamore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a country boy, you know from l you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from the big l town Lamore. We didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>stop like growing up, we didn't have a McDonald's growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, only had a couple of stop

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have stoplights. So we're country kids. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he pulled off the legs of the grasshopper, and we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see if we could eat it. So at

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<v Speaker 1>a grassofer. So it was still moving around and wiggling

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<v Speaker 1>in your mouth. So a grasshopper. And then ah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys heard of salt grass and

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<v Speaker 1>go look up salt grass. I live out in Lamore too,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh a lot of Native American Native American Indians

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamore and the Indians they give salt grass and

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<v Speaker 1>they eat salt grass really salty. But it's like post

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<v Speaker 1>bit a cow poop. They poop on it and makes

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<v Speaker 1>the grass. So look up salt grass pretty interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are probably the two things that I'm eating this

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I wouldn't probably do it again. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to look it up because there's there's two infractions here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>first fraction is yo as a Native American. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>chalk talk. I'm chalk talk. My grandmother, my grandmother, my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>her mom was full boded in the end, and she

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<v Speaker 1>so in Oklahoma, I'm from forth Oklahoma's well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>from my ancestors and stuff. And so back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the Native Americans and Blacks and the slaves, they were

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<v Speaker 1>always hooking up. So, believe it or not, um a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Blacks and Indians were married in together. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got my car ex curl does not make you

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<v Speaker 1>Native American to say that, you know, my hair is good?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Indian I got. I got high tea boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I run a lot of barefoot, and I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>he's called me running foot, but I love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then the second infraction is you said, salt

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<v Speaker 1>grass is what calminure cal poop is on and basically

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<v Speaker 1>when it drives up, it's salty grass that had m

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<v Speaker 1>cal feces. I think it may have been. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. That later on mayde ben so all the

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<v Speaker 1>next time, I'm back home and we're hanging out and

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<v Speaker 1>you say, you know, can I have a swig? Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>get you say kiss? I said, if you say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that salt grass, your salt grass mouth. After we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be I'm gonna leave it alone because I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna mention what y'all boys been eating out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>know y'all, I'm gonna leave it alone. Let's great. Lord, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's the one thing you cannot leave home without? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot leave home without my wallet or my phone

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<v Speaker 1>or a couple of bucks in my pocket. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of dollars, got don't have dollars, don't

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<v Speaker 1>have sinse. Hey, that's a generational thing, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm old school and I have a money clip.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta add right, bro, gotta have cash now. My

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<v Speaker 1>kids and the wife whenever they need cash to Hey, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know all your money clippers right, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>touch that money. You can ask me, don't touch you. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's a generational thing. A lot of the young,

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<v Speaker 1>the young pucks, the whipper snappers, they you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>mowe me the money. Oh boys, my son's after due

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<v Speaker 1>already graduate engineers, still playing this fifth year senior bawling

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<v Speaker 1>out playing pretty good. Big Feller got some feet, can dance,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got a chance to play on Sunday. So

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<v Speaker 1>he got his mama's James's goods. Stop playing, boy, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>play too much. Y'all play too much. I'm gone, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting off this show. And that's called me all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll talk to this mama all the time. Oh, mama comes,

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<v Speaker 1>stay anytime you call me. It's just for money. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why are you calling me? Say we'll happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey dad, good morning? How are you doing? Just wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to call check in with you. I'm gonna start talking

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<v Speaker 1>and before we get to the end, I said, how

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<v Speaker 1>much money you need? Uh? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I go. Y'all know how that go. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could change your name, what would you change it? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>I would change did I would change it to Denzel?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even all right? So are you many? Somehow? I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Denzel would play him in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie about his life. So no, I just say, think

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<v Speaker 1>you You asked me if there was a movie about me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the that's the answer that you write. Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna pick some bum? Why can I shoot

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<v Speaker 1>for the stars? Okay? Why why do I want? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I want something dude for cheap? I ain't paying

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I'm not having this ail. Why Why do

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<v Speaker 1>I want my cousin Dion, who I love. I want

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<v Speaker 1>that playing me. I want this ail. I'm waiting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hey that's black on black crime. Gee, what did I

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<v Speaker 1>just commit? You a t or coffee person? Uh? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that I used to be more were with tea,

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<v Speaker 1>But you get older. I think I switched more to coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do enjoy both of them. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>coffee is easier, and so I'll go with the coffee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like I like a little cup of tea here

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<v Speaker 1>and there. Man, some Earl gray. Yeah. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tea when I used to do it with

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<v Speaker 1>my bourbon. I don't drink anymore. I'm about five years here,

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<v Speaker 1>but always some good tea and make a hot tidy

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<v Speaker 1>with the little jack in it or a sottle Jim

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<v Speaker 1>throw some. Now we're talking, man, now we're talking. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just I just was trying to be rich. It

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<v Speaker 1>just has some so you se you stick your pinky

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<v Speaker 1>out too while you at it. I said, watch watch

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<v Speaker 1>a shower, watch a show on Netflix. U just gonna Flix?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you talking about you? That's not something you

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<v Speaker 1>just randomly don't let me have some tea like you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be in a mood like some house slippers own rope. No,

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<v Speaker 1>just basketball shorts. I've heard on it. I'm still hood,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not white beater on even like you were

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<v Speaker 1>at him. They can drink your tea. Wow, turtle necking

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<v Speaker 1>drinking tea. And here's t let me pay the picture.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be in some basketball shorts, tank top, some house

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<v Speaker 1>shoes on and yes, I'm in a house. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>they like? The old dog slippers from like Menister Society

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<v Speaker 1>or which which they say the old they the old

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<v Speaker 1>dog upgraded. I got the memory phone man fancy like

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<v Speaker 1>uh like us, got the little fuzzing inside because my

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<v Speaker 1>crystal need to stay warm. An yeah, you asked, you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to I like little tea sometimes. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on, let's we have digress. But it is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and love having you on this. My big dog man

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<v Speaker 1>I met. I met though so many years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've kept this great bond, is great relationship. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on his radio show a number of times back in California,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never had to the privilege, uh to having

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<v Speaker 1>obviously our show cut to it where we get I

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<v Speaker 1>get to talk to and that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really enjoying getting to talk to what I call

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<v Speaker 1>the older heads, that the men um and the women

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<v Speaker 1>uh that have really instilled some things in me. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we go down this trail, you'll hear some things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta love on him that I've stolen a

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<v Speaker 1>few things that he have said, that he said and

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<v Speaker 1>also instilled in me, um that I'll give credit to

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<v Speaker 1>now he's on on UM on my poodcast. Now when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on TV or talking to other radio I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give him credit, and I won't because I want people

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<v Speaker 1>to think right. So, but well we'll get into that. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo O'Neil, what was your favorite team growing up any sport? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy, it's interesting and this is not

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<v Speaker 1>just me chain this is really true, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>or not. I was a San Diego Charger fan because

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<v Speaker 1>of Chuck Munsey, Kellen wins Oh, Charlie Joinner, loved Dan

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<v Speaker 1>fox West, Chandler James Brooks. I love that team. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Don Cory always to the good coach, something

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<v Speaker 1>about watching you know, old forty six. So Chuck Munzy

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<v Speaker 1>take it with the one one one crossbar across the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Munsey was a beast um watching him playing Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>winso what he was at the tight end position that

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<v Speaker 1>offense and had Charlie joining West Chandler. Watching those guys

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<v Speaker 1>play man was just like, oh my god. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>At a young age, I became a Charger fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>had two guys lived down the street from us. They

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<v Speaker 1>were like next door neighbors, not in next door neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta realized that's probably a country maw because you

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<v Speaker 1>know he has to walk because it's in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>What we had Land and David Joey, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>the Stellers and Dallas Cowboys, but I was always the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers and they weren't that good, but they would always compete.

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<v Speaker 1>And so just it was a charge of fan growing

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<v Speaker 1>up basketball. You know, you love the Lakers, You love

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<v Speaker 1>what those guys were doing. You know, watching those good

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<v Speaker 1>rivals between them and Boston. Uh, you know, boxing love.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a boxing Connoisseward loved Ali, caught a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of him. Larry Holmes was watching him, loved him,

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray, Leonard what Bernitez, All those guys

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<v Speaker 1>in that era. Man was just those guys Herns Hagner,

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<v Speaker 1>they got it done. But watching Sugar Raye man, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just so sweet. So uh Ali and and Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes don't get the credit he deserves. Love to watch

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. Uh love to watch those guys fights. So

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<v Speaker 1>I I love sports. Just it just said something was

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<v Speaker 1>ingreened in me. We have to take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>the morning anything. We gotta pay some bills. You got checks.

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<v Speaker 1>I love cut to It and I love it even

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<v Speaker 1>more when you download us and subscribe, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>follow us on social media too, Smithie, where where at?

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<v Speaker 1>That's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr?

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<v Speaker 1>What about online? And you can follow us at cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It podcast dot com where you can buy merch

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<v Speaker 1>and you can subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A brother,

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<v Speaker 1>cut to a podcast dot com. A guy you blocked

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<v Speaker 1>for two gave us a great story when we asked this,

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<v Speaker 1>um is where are you from? In a place you

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<v Speaker 1>call your hometown. The more the l the move, the

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<v Speaker 1>big Eltown, Lamore, California, where I'm from. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at California, you guys know how long it is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the longest states to travel to California.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the Central Valley, so we're dead smack in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle. We're three hundred miles south going down to

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<v Speaker 1>l A. We're three hundred miles north going up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Bay San Francisco, so we're in the middle. And

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<v Speaker 1>those so Fresno, Bakersfield, by Saia, by Saiah, bakers for

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<v Speaker 1>all those town those little those little towns by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>related to Tommy Smith, member the sixty four Olympics of

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, so he's from the Moore. Steve Perry

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<v Speaker 1>just a long there's a small town boy living in

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<v Speaker 1>a lonely world. He's you know, you know Jane your journey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's more to Steve Perry. So small town, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a country. A lot of egg form laying around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So, but we are centrally in the Central Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why they call it the Central Valley, where

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<v Speaker 1>the raising capital of the world. We produce over seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars a year in in agg and food

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<v Speaker 1>we feed the majority of the world. Central Valley is

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<v Speaker 1>so rich in farm land, so that's where it's at.

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<v Speaker 1>So three d miles south, you go to l A,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred miles north you go to San Francisco. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of we're dead smack in the middle growing

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<v Speaker 1>up there. How did that shape your view in the

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<v Speaker 1>world today? Well, I think that, you know what, you

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<v Speaker 1>were blind a little bit, but you were also it

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>made you see things differently because you're a young man

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>growing up in a town like that. Lots of Portuguese,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of majority of Portuguese, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>in white and you know, blacks were kind of not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a majority. A lot of blacks came from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the South and moved to Lamore, the Central Valley because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the sixties and fifties, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people left, you know, far as leading getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the the you know, Texas and stuff. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them came out to California. My dad and grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother was named Viola and Oliver was my grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>and they came from Texas on the back of a truck.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad and his six brothers and my aunt Bernese,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was a guy Cuneyman. They called him Cunneyman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would drive people and families out to California,

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<v Speaker 1>and they took him out to the Island District and

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<v Speaker 1>now the Island District. It was quoted like a a

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<v Speaker 1>not a plantation, but it can a community. Yes, absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>We're all the blacks lived on on the land and

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<v Speaker 1>they shared and they work worked on different forms and

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<v Speaker 1>chopped cotton, pick cotton, and everyone says, chop cotton. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't chop cotton. What you do is you chopped the weeds.

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<v Speaker 1>So I grew up and we had we had fifty

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<v Speaker 1>acres and we still have it now I'm developing that

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<v Speaker 1>now residential. But so I had to I had to

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<v Speaker 1>chop cotton growing up. So you chopped the weeds that

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<v Speaker 1>are around the cotton. You gotta get a hole and

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<v Speaker 1>you go down the roads and you just you hold

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<v Speaker 1>the weeds from around the cotton um so for it

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<v Speaker 1>won't won't struck before, it won't strangle the cotton for

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. So those are some of the things. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my grandparents, my dad, my mom, they also we

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick cotton. So you picked the cotton. You

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<v Speaker 1>make sure picking your the sacks that you pick, you

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<v Speaker 1>wait them and you got paid for that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pick cotton, but you know, my my thing was I

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<v Speaker 1>did chop, you know, the weeds from around it. But

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<v Speaker 1>we had a cotton picker, so we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that with my grandparents and my mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>had to do so those kind of things kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of molded me and kind of you asked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what did it bring for me? It taught

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<v Speaker 1>me how to work. You taught me about hard work.

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<v Speaker 1>I still go out and cut grass. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have rental properties in Latmore. I got a hammer

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<v Speaker 1>and nail like and sheet rock. I try to tell

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, I said, look when dad gone. With Dad's gone,

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that's why I try to get you guys to come

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>out here to work, because you need to know, well, Dad,

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>we can hire someone. I said, yeah, but if you

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>got a room and you gotta you know, tend by

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>ten by ten room, you know that's four how many?

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>You know? Where's the stud you got your two before?

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Is every sixteen or every twelve inches? So I can

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you even though you don't have to be going

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>out going out and doing the work. At least I

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>want you guys to know how many sheet, how many

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>two before is you need to buy. So if you

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>learn that stuff, now no one can't beat you. So

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>those those are the certain things that really, really that

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I gravitated towards that kind of you know, still keep

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>me and keeps me molded. Who I am? My grandmother,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>like I said, she was nineties seven when she died.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>And I remember my senior year. I was the League

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Player of the year. I was the Central Section Player

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of the year. I was valley player, the athlete of

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the year, and I was Northern California Athlete of the Year.

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was California Athlete of the Year. And Janet

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Evans says, Lorenzo is the King, and Janets the Queen.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Janet EVTs who won the Olympics, and I beat out

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Michael Kim who was a tennis player, UM for Athlete

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Year, Curtis Tonaway, all the greats. And I

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>remember sitting with my grandmother and she said, come here.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>What she said, sit down, and said, oh, Grandma, she's

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>like she's gonna sit and talk to me. She had

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a old beat up station one and said don't worry.

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna give you the station like a And

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh thank god. And so she said, down,

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Siden, She goes, you can do all

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>those things. She tells, you know what, you're all these athletes,

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>all these you know, accolades you're getting, and people are

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>bragging about you. She said. But let me tell you something.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>She said, I came from Fort Worth, Texas. I had

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>your I was I was picking cotton, as she said,

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>she was a forming over twenty people that she was

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you know you still she was picking cotton. She was

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>forming over twenty people, making sure they picked and did

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the things that they need to do. She said, I

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>was pregnantly druncle Joe. I went into labor on winds Day.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I went worked Thursday, I had your uncle. Friday, I

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>went back to work and I said, Grandma, why don't

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you just take the weekend. You're already gonna be off

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>for the weekend, and you just could have took Friday

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and then been off and go back Monday. She said, son,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>She goes, I'll tell you this, never take a vacation

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>when the boss is around. She I said, why not?

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>She said, they'll realize how much they don't need you.

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 1>And at that time I really know as a senior

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>in high school, but you know, all those times and

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>she how was she even got to see me playing

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>the pros. She lived a great life, But all that

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>time I didn't know until you know, I've got in

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>college and then the high the pros. She was telling me, Son,

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you could be as good, you could be the best.

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>But if you take a vacation when the Boston around,

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll realized they don't need you. Someone else is gonna

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>take your price. Someone else was just as long. Someone

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>else wants to be that supervisor. Someone else wants to

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>be that supervisor. Over twenty someone else wants to be

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that starting fullback. Someone else wants your job. So never

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>take a vacation on the Boston around, because they will

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>realize how much they don't need you. And those are

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the things that I still tell my kids. Those are

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>things that I tell people when I go and talk

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to them. Those are so important for not just not

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>just not just in sports, but just in life in general.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's funny is when hearing you say all of this

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>with the same enthusiasm, is how you taught a lot

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of players while you why you were on teams with

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals with the obviously on that UM Hall

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>of Fame career where la Damien Thomas and and and

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>just what you did and meeting a guy named Steve

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Smith before he became senior at the Pro Bowl UM.

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Just all of that stuff that you've taught so many

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 1>players that have so many high UM admirations for you, Man,

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, my thing, Stephen, You know it, man,

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>You're that guy that everyone in the league. They knew,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>whether you know, watching you play in the attitude and

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>which you went about it, and you demanded respect and

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't You didn't have to talk about it. They

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>just knew Steve was gonna be playing. I don't care.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>They knew that they were gonna go into the meeting.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>They don't care how big, how small, hall or whatever.

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>They knew that they had the game plan for you.

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't teach that. That's something that you have inside you.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>That's something that's been instilled. That's just your heart. That's

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>just your termination. No size or nothing determines who you are.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't define you. Steve is a you know we're

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>talking about me and I don't mean you. That's where

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>we have a kinder spirit. We love each other, love

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>each other family. But the biggest thing, man, it's like,

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. It can be the biggest dude in

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the world. Steve, you ain't backing down even if they

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>whipped your ass. That's just not who you are. I'm

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>being you know. You know that, bro, that's just but

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people we pit bulls, and a lot

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of people don't have that. They don't have that in factor.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It's you gotta you gotta kill us. And that's what

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>makes that's the difference between good and great. That's the

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>difference that separated you. And that's the difference to separate you.

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That you can wait, okay you no way, not on

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>my watch, no way. You might beat me. You might

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>win the game, but you ain't beating Steve. That that's

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>just how you're built. You wasn't beating you. You might

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>win the team, your team might have lost. You might

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>your team might have struggled. But something inside of you

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna say I'm whooping your ass today, You ain't.

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You might you might, you guys might win, but I'm

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you right now y'all don't know that I'm here.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>You would block, you would hit guys, you would It

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what your job was. That's what made your great, bro,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what made you great. I don't know if the

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds how do you? How do you feel hearing that

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>from Lorenzo? It's hard to digest, to be honest, that's

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>just it allows you. I believe. One of the reasons

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>why I have such a hard time hearing compliments, especially

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>from people I admire or respect or I really value,

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>including you and a lot of you know people are

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>our production team and that we work with, is because

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it allows me to take my guard down. And I

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like taking my guard down, because if I take

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>my guard down, the fear of more of being emotionally

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>hurt because of I know, you know you can physically

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>hurt me. And okay, I you know I have a

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>high threshold of pain. You know I've been through some

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>things emotionally that that's hard to get through. Right you

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>You've seen people who have dealt with things emotionally as

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>children and who you can you can talk to someone

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>long enough, you realize, man, their childhood screwed them up.

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be that, right. I think some

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>of my childhood already wounded me, sure, and so that's

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>why I you know, it's it. It has taken a

0:32:53.640 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of years to create a smile for me a

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>long For a long time, it was easier to frown,

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, because if you keep yourself close guarded, like

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>if you look like you're unapproachable, people want to approach you, exactly,

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And if people don't approach you, you you don't have to talk.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>So it just goes down the whole thing. And so

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you know that really that isolation, right, Um, for a

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>long time, isolation was where I thrived, right, It's where

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt comfortable, so, you know, and steve with that.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>With that, you know, even though you were loved, then

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>you find it hard to really submit or to be

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just okay, I'm a bear, I'm a bear who am

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>because you're used to being on this island and people

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>might say they can help you, they might tell you

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>they love you and all those different things, but it's

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>just it's it's it's a it's a place that you

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>just like you you want to believe it, but anytime

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>things happen, if you don't have you yeah, it's it's

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like a mental prison. Almost, No, it's not, it's not.

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not a mental prison. Was the prisoner is having

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a friendship with someone that it isn't really a true friendship.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>That's because because then what are you left with your

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>left you're left sitting there picking up your own emotional pieces,

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>going see and you start to digest or you start

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to piece together, well, they don't want to really be

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.919
<v Speaker 1>my friend. That you don't say they aren't my friend,

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>or the relationship wasn't good because they are someone who's

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>wounded or didn't know this or that it's or was

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 1>it I said this that that that made them feel

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>this way? Did did I do this? And and some

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of it? So you start to figure out and then

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you start putting putting the piece together, so you're having

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a conversation with yourself. We ultimately says I did something wrong,

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that's why it didn't work out. So if if you

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>don't have that, then you're safe. So it's not it's

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>not that prison that you know, you're feeling safe this.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>People who don't run would not get this. There's a

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>place where it's called no man's land, where the slow

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>runners are where they are then the fast runners or

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>where they are. If you're stuck in the middle. So

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>if you if you hang with the slow people, right, y'all,

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>go at the pace that's comfortable for you, guys. But

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're a slow person trying to run

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>with a fast pace and you can't keep up your body,

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>your mind say your mind's telling you, but your legs

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>just say no, right, your legs acid build up, you

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>start heading a brief and so you start to back up.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>You in the middle. You're in between the fast people,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but you're you're not fast enough to be for the

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>for the for the six minute mile pace, but you're

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 1>faster than the fifteen minute mile pace. So you're stuck

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. So you have to maintain chase but

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>keep all off the slow people. So you're you're in

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>the middle and you're dog low, and that if you

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>are not prepared and ready to run a marathon by yourself,

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, it's a struggle. I mean, it is a struggle.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>And some people and I'm not saying this and and

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a negative I'm just I'm just being honest. I'm throwing

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 1>it out there. This is where some people commit suicide.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>This is where some people, uh slip the risk. This

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>is where some people do not know how deal with

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>some of what's going on. And there have been times

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty much a lot of my career, I would say

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 1>about seven right at first, first eight or nine years man,

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I was okay with being no man's land. I preferred

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>being in no man's land because you couldn't tell me

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I was too slow. Hell, I knew I couldn't run fast.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So I was okay with being no man's land because

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>it gave me a place there was. I was my judge, jury,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and executioner. And I was happy with it because some

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>nice I went to bead terrible day, I was okay

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>with I'll just go to slate, wake up, try again.

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I trusted no one to really give me anything that

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>was really beneficial. And that's why Michael Jackson said it

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>best stuck in the middle. You can't yeah, yeah, y'all like,

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>but it's just you know, and that's where it is.

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>And and I think that no Man's Land is a

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>really good place, but it is a very dangerous place

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>without some some good counseling, without some some good mentor ship,

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>without some people that really can love on you and

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you also can love on them back, like Zow is

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys you know when the super Bowl happens, Um,

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>when some big event that requires us former players are

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>current players should get around each other. We see each other.

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>That's He's one of those guys where I'm okay if

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a slow runner, a fast paced running, I'm okay

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>with sprinting with him because he just lifts you up.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>You see someone, it's like it's like going to an

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>event or you're the new employee at a huge corporation

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to the cafeteria and you see that

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.359
<v Speaker 1>one person you know and you are belining to them.

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you I'm comfortable with them, Yes, but it's not

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>comfortable because I feel safe. It's comfortable because of who

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>he is or who she is, and those one Lorenzo's

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted as those guys he texts. Um you ask and

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>they say, well, it's for Lorenzo. I've been on the

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>show a few times and that's some days I'm like,

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it's West Coast Mathematics today. You know, it's like, oh Lorenzo,

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that big dog absolutely, and that's what that's

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>who he is that he like he loses the confidence

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of true friendship. Really like me and you're bond. You

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>get on my nerves, I get on your nerves. But

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>ultimately you're one of my closest friends. And I would

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>lose if I would lose you in our friendship. It

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 1>would take me a long time to get over. I could,

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I could buy some friends. But Bro, you ain't you.

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You're not one of those friends. That that's I don't

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>have the amount of money in my bank account because

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>of what you brain. You know, I appreciate that. I

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. Well, man, that's that's a that's that's heavy.

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>But even with that, Lorenzo, how how do you? How

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>did you landed that place that Steve is describing as being,

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better words, being an o G.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Being the person that looks out for other people? You

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 1>know what? A lot of it Like Steve, We've we've

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>been hurt, we've been but you still love people. And

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>for me, my dad he was just my dad, you know,

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>as a pastor and you know you'd be passed like

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, and uh he was a good man.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Was he perfect? No? And I think that you know,

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>growing up sometimes you know, being a you know, some

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of a preacher, you stray and I'm a lie, I'm

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a cheat, I'm you name it, I'm not I'm that person.

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And and then something I thought, like like Steve talked

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>about we you know, have I'm not saying to speaking

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for Steve, but I'll speak for me. Have we have

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought about that? I get a gun and put it,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>pull it out and say I'm gonna commit suicide? No?

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Have we all thought of Have we thought about it?

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Have we thought about relationships? All those different things? Yes?

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that if you people that say that they haven't,

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they're not. They're lying to themselves. As we

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we we are. We are humans, we are human beings

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and in those nature and those things that we're talking about,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>love and respect and knowing who one another is. My

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>dad told me a couple of things, and one of

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>them that just sticked out with me, and he said,

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>he said, son, you know, I got out of college

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.479
<v Speaker 1>running while gotten pros doing my thing. And he said, son,

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>he goes he got to slow down, and he just

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>but he knew. But he talked me in a way,

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>he says, son, He said, look, if you hang out

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>with four people that make a dollar, he says son.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Pretty soon they'll be five and wow, and you just

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it's and it's your timing, so when

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're asking. Was always good to people, Yeah, all the time.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't crazier and assis when I was drunk. But

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>far as just being a good person, I was always

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a good person. I've done some bad things, and we

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 1>all have. And that's why for me, I had to

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>learn how to forgive, forgive forgetting that, you know, because

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we can do other people, you know, low money and

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 1>do things and be there. But then sometimes we do

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>all these things because we're not willing to forgive forgive ourselves.

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I had recently. And that's why, you know,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I depend more on a higher power, and

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get up and try to pray more.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I get up and try to do things for not

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that I'm some Bible thumper, you know, I still understand it,

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>because what happens is we have been taught a lot

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>of black churches and a lot of black that hey,

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do this, you gotta get more money, you

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta tie it, you gotta you gotta go you know what,

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go do this, you gotta do this. No,

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and Exodus, Jesus said, he said, you know God, he said,

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm the guy who brought the children of Israel for

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>forty I brought you out of Egypt. He says, So

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>serve me. See so many people in churches, and I

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's what we that's why people turn from God.

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Act like he's a genie in a bottle, and they

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>rubbed the bloom. All need a new car. Oh got

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to need a new house, or I needed this, I

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>need that. And it's but they're not, they're not. That's

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 1>not what he that's not what he came for. Kim

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and Shure. It's just how to live, how to treat people,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>how to be good to people. That's what and and

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's what. We don't want to do that because

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.959
<v Speaker 1>that's not our nature. Our nature is the lie to chief,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to steal, to do those things, because that's what he said,

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>don't give any man no praise. So until you asked me, so,

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>until recently learning just to forgive and learning that, hey, look,

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:14.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, you know what godtor gave me. Because because

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>we go through we might sin, we might do those things,

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and we feel so we feel so disconnected because of

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>things that we've done in our past or you know,

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we did something or we felt a certain way, we

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>said some things, we did something we hated, we talked

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>about someone, we did things that we didn't speak life,

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you feel so guilty, but you know what,

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it's okay. That's why it's only one good and that's God.

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>We gotta stop, you know, we gotta stop always holding

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>ourselves and looking at ourselves and judging ourselves. And because

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.520
<v Speaker 1>when you get to that point sometimes you're just like man,

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll go down this endless path and the spiral because

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of the fact you're continuing to hold yourself and it's

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be good enough. We'll always search for perfection.

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's why we always posed a chase after Christ

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to be more like what he was on this service,

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not like because because man, we get we get mixed up.

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 1>We mess up because we're human and that's what we got.

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.399
<v Speaker 1>So I've just tried to learn to let God day. Look,

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you're in control, whether I lie, whether I still, whether

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I do I'm still gonna you know, I still I

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>don't do it, don't do it intentionally. The least to

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>know man, that God knows and he's forgiven. He knows

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>our hard. So that's what's been the biggest thing for

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>me when you asked what how how do I get

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:28.919
<v Speaker 1>to that place? Is I can't do it. Man's trying

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to trying to hold it up and trying to do

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>all the things for you. You'll go crazy trying to

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>take care of everyone, trying to be everything to everybody.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>You'll go crazy. We're not We're not capable. How do

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you deal with self care? Then? You know? For me?

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You know? For me, I have a a guy named

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Ron passed Ron who I talked to you. But it's

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>not about it's not about judgment and Steve, I have lied.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I lived a lie. I lived a lie for a

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>lot part of my life. That you say, you get

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to a certain you supposed to be married, get to

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a certain age, post have kids. You posed, Hey, this

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is what you supposed to do. You want that trophy wife,

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>You want to do those things, and nothing that they

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 1>have done. Nothing. That's not that they're not a great person,

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not that they treat you us, not that they're

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>all those things. But if you're a pepsi and all

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you you try to be a coming

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 1>orange soda. It doesn't work. You'll never become an orang

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>soda because you're a pepsi. Yeah, so sometimes we force

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>we do things out of this is oh chief fine,

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.800
<v Speaker 1>or this is that oran and and and that person

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is nothing. They did nothing wrong, but because you went

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>into it, because it was something that you've felt that

0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you need to do. It's something you felt. Feeling is

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>the emotion. It's not that necessary to the truth. And

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you hurt kids, You hurt generations because you hurt

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you write, you hurt whether you hurt because you won't

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>tell them the truth. You won't let them know who

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you really are. And you did something you know, maybe

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to go camping, but you know what, they

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.439
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know. It's all about Louis and it's never it's

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>never been about that. And that's but that's who they've been.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 1>They you got married to him, Hey, I don't want

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 1>to one camp. They would never do those some of

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the things that you or go fish or do the

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>things that you want to do. And you did it

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because you felt that I needed to feel a void.

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>And we then when you have the things that we

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>have to disposal income we can fix the problem despite

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>throwing money at it, and you throw it's it's a

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 1>temporary solution and it's not necessarily the truth. I think

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it's about that time. Just take a little breathing. Good do,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>good do. Let's getting down to do it good Hey Gerard,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>why did you get that T shirt? Oh? Yes, I

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>got it from cut to a podcast dot com where

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>seven or four shot. But yeah, you can go on,

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts? How did you balance football life, business life, husband? Father?

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is a pretty heavy one too,

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>son and grandson because your mom, dad and grandma Viola,

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>they they didn't let you. You said you straight, but

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:15.879
<v Speaker 1>they stayed on you. It sounds like, man, But I grown, man,

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>grow man. I would go back home and go to

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>church and my mom and still hit me in the head.

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm and they slapped me in the back of the

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 1>head in the back of the church. People. Who so, man,

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I shoot my dad And you know, high school I

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>was still getting whippies. So you don't. But at the

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>same center, how well, first of all, how how how

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>was it? How bad were you or the fact that

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bro, I didn't drink. I didn't. I didn't

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 1>obviously did because you got your I didn't smoke. I didn't.

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>No no if like my dad said, gonna pick up

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the yard and I didn't do it. Man, he would

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>get on it. I mean so big Glenn, you gotta

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they was South big Glinn. He had big hands. He

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>was my brother. Put it this way, is this we

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just happened this this? I mean this turning I was,

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm parking at the store upos that goal be be rolling.

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, this thing got so good to me.

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:17.479
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't shut up. Y'all, y'all, y'all bringing

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it out of me today. I mean, this is what

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 1>we do. What we do. I love hearing your story

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times people see the player and

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 1>they go, oh, you know, I'll get to it right here.

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I heard you say this a long time ago, man,

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>grown man playing the kids game getting the Kings ran. Yes. Man,

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>People see that and they go, whoa what, there's no

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>big deal. You get paid all this money. But they're

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 1>still whether you got a hundred million dollar contract or

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you got a two dollar contract. That individual still has

0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a heartbeat, he or she bleeds, he or she breathes,

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and he or she's crossed something led up to that moment,

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and there's still someone and all that stuff that you

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>see on on on Sunday afternoons, right, and it's to

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>balance it all they'll see to be honest, man, to

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 1>be honest, And I won't because because because my thing

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is I got to a point and that's why earlier

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I told you guys that I had to that I

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>had to forgive myself. Now I didn't. I didn't have

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to necessarily forgive, but knowing that God knows that he forgives.

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.759
<v Speaker 1>So until you can accept that, you'll still lie. You'll

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.280
<v Speaker 1>still live behind. You'll still live behind not the truth.

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>You'll do it because you don't want people to look

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>at you and view a certain way, and we we

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>we hide behind it. I failed. I felt at it miserably,

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>whether Dad beyond me, whether counseling, all those things. I

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>felt it a lot of it. I felt that the

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>husband part of it, thought the father part of it,

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>felt it that you know, sometimes the finance part. It

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 1>throught it a lot of different things because I became

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>selfish now that I still love. Obviously, if you love me,

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll keep my commandments. So we say we love our parents,

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>we love and think about it. Have people say, oh,

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a good person. Have you ever lied? Have you

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ever looked at a girl and some yoga pants and

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.360
<v Speaker 1>said man? And if you have to look to do

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>a second get look or third look? Don't you know

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you look too long? We can say all those things.

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's in a hard So I had to. You

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>asked me, Steve the truth because of where I'm at,

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and I can't. I don't. I'm not gonna sit there

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 1>and say I don't still at love times, but even

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>an uncomfortable moment like this, when you ask me, I

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 1>can tell you I failed. I can tell you I

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.879
<v Speaker 1>balanced it sometimes at at an A. I balanced from

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>an A all the way to an F plus m

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:34.919
<v Speaker 1>hm so I and at times I go, I'm I'm

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>more of A. I'm more of an A now, But

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 1>at sometimes I still so. So I get it. But

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a day to day you play golf.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You never go out and play. You can't just go

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>shoot Bertie all day long. You all you never mastered

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you play football? How many how many catches have you dropped?

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>But how many have you called? You? Still you can't

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>master it? So but but you still but you still

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>played at such high level and you wanted to be perfect.

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:05.839
<v Speaker 1>You kept searching for it, but you still failed. That's

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>not that, that's just like life, man, Steph. Courage is

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 1>one of the best three point game shooted wed game

0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. But how many times have you missed the three?

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and still That's why I'm doing a show

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to do, a show that that I'm

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from the secular radio. And it's

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>called God. You know, it's God, family and faith, God,

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 1>family and sports because I want to talk about Tom

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Brady Orgaby, one of the greatest quarterbacks. But how many

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>interceptions have you thrown? But I'm the last night, how

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>many game wanting good drives that he had, but he

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>still feels But look, look what family does. Family still

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 1>lifts him up. Fans still lift him up. Fans still, man,

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you're the groat, still lift you up. But you know what,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but why can't we do that for our church brothers?

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Why can't we do for our brothers that just stru

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>our sisters or kids that are struggling and maybe something

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 1>going on in their life and they fail, astray or

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 1>do so the not that you condone it, not that you,

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>oh you know, but you Why why? Why? Why not

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:56.439
<v Speaker 1>still show love? I'm at a point in time where

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.879
<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying to give. I even give more because

0:51:59.880 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I want people to know that they're still hope. We

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>can get up, we can shake ourself, we can continue,

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>we can continue to try to strive for perfection, just

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>like in football, if you kept striving for perfection no

0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>matter what. Why can't we do that in life? Why

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>can't we do the relationship? Why why don't we quit?

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Why don't say okay, I are you talking to that? Okay,

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I ain't doing that. Oh no, I'm done. You never

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 1>did that. We never did that in sports. Again, still

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>we think we can do that for individuals. People we love,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>people we care about. So, man, that's why I'm at Steve.

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I failed, brother, I failed during that time. Yeah, I

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had a great career, but I felt at so many

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>other things. Well, friends are our Our last segment that

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>we're having this podcast is called the Deep Three, and

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just three questions that we asked that take us

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>behind you as a football player who goes beyond your jersey.

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>So Smithy give him the first deep three question. I

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>really want to know from you how has planned in

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the NFL improved your life, but also have has screwed

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:10.719
<v Speaker 1>up your perspective of life. I think the biggest thing

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the how it helped my life. I think just the

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:19.680
<v Speaker 1>people and the opportunity that I received um this conversation

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.359
<v Speaker 1>with you guys. Being able to travel and do things

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that otherwise wouldn't have been able to do. Having the

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to play in so many different cities, to travel

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and do things that people dream about so far from

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, apart from the money, I just think the

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 1>experience itself was just unbelievable. The people that you got

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to meet and from dignitaries from your name is, people

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that are you know, and other other specially other professions,

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>meeting the Denzel Washington meeting Denzel come into a game,

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, meeting you know, presidents and president's wives and

0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 1>doing those things because of what you've done. So the

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.879
<v Speaker 1>opportunity that it gave me, it is unreal. I think

0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know, the negative would be some of the

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:06.760
<v Speaker 1>things that's going on with our bodies now, the ct

0:54:06.840 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>E and you know, and you know and fingers and

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>joints and you know getting up in the morning and

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.479
<v Speaker 1>how the body feels for all the hits and things

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that you've taken. UM also a false and security because

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.479
<v Speaker 1>it sees so many different things and sometimes you don't

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 1>trust people and you see what people are about and

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and uh it makes you you're guarded. So sometimes get

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it tainted me in some some ways to UM in

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that process. Lorenzo, you're a four time Pro bowler, you're

0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 1>an All Pro, you were a member of the two

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand's All Decade Team at fullback. But what's the greatest

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>gift that you got from the game of football? I

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:49.759
<v Speaker 1>think I think the greatest gift that that I got

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 1>from the game of football, I think it's I think

0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it's war I'm at now to be able to have respect,

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be in a position now to

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 1>tell people your story and help more individuals because of

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you have, because of you have, because of your position.

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It's given me the ability and also the gravitas to

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to tell tell people my story but also

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>introduce more people to a better life. Introduce more people

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>to Christ. I think that's that's what one of the

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>things that we have a platform and we're able to

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>do things that people wish that they can do. How

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.640
<v Speaker 1>are we losing it? I can give life or I

0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>can give death. And I've given plenty of death, guys,

0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I've given plenty of death. I've wronged a lot of people,

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 1>show people the long way they've took it from people,

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and you know, you know, two rooms will make it right.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 1>But because of the position, and I'm when in for

0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>as women and different things that you are allowed and

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>afforded to. So just like a given, we've given death.

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we have a huge opportunity to give life.

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 1>So that's what it's given me, the opportunity to be

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>able to speak life and help people in a place

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 1>that they feel that they have no hope. What's one

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of the pieces of advice you give your children that

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you hope stays with them. Yeah, um, advice that I

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 1>try to talk to my kids about it. I talked

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>about c DC choices, decisions and consequences. You're gonna have

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>a choice. Then you're gonna say you have a choice,

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:43.439
<v Speaker 1>canna go to school? Then you have a decision, did

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>or did I not go to school? You have a choice,

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>then you decide did you go to school? The consequence

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I went to school, graduated, did all those things. Consequence,

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I got a great job because I got it, went

0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to god a degree. And that's my consequence. If I don't,

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>where's my life? Where am I going to be? How

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.720
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna get by? C D C choices, discursions

0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and consequences. You're eight years older than me, but man,

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm talking to a sixty year old

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>old g and and you basically saying, look look at

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>your knuckle head. I've lived this life. I bumped my head.

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I've written on that skateboard board. There's a rock right

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>there on eighth when you hit the left over Pooky House,

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a rock. Come on, and you're you're telling us

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>where your mouthpiece or where your helmet because when you

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 1>hit that rock, you're gonna fall off. Don't do what

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I did. And and just I really appreciate your vulnerability

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and just your transparentship. Man, it's been awesome. We've we've

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>done quite a few of these podcasts. This is what

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I can honestly say, I got more out of what

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I want you know what I'm saying, like the unedited

0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>version of my phone, I don't because because there's so much.

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I get what you're saying. But but for sure, man,

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 1>even and from from Smithy's comments to to you, LaRenzo,

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Man like you, you gave us a lot, brothers, so

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely appreciate that, Steve. Man. We gotta do a better job, man,

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:17.160
<v Speaker 1>just connecting being being being presidents each other's lives. Man,

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>because man, we look about think about it another eight

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you say, eight years old? Eight years old at eight eight,

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, at another forty forty two the year at

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, add another forty three or forty two years,

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>how old are you gonna be? Brother? Think about where

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>life is at. Bro. We you know, all of us

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:34.360
<v Speaker 1>got to do a better job just the people that

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 1>we really want in our life. And you know that

0:58:36.240 --> 0:58:38.320
<v Speaker 1>we want to grow with and help men and do

0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 1>those things. Man, I'm down for brother, talking about change

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and over this country. Man. You know the spirit of

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>influence we can have how many multimillionaires we know and

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 1>brothers or but we got to help our own communities

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to man, we gotta we all need to do something. Man,

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know so many people respect you me man,

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I want to do something. I tell my

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>son Larenzos and he's all, dadd you know what the

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>police was meant for? I know it was. It was

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.040
<v Speaker 1>for the for segregation. Oh it's for black I know

0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 1>all those things. And but what are we doing? And

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, Steve, Man. We we if you got

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, we get brothers together. Man, we can change communities. Man,

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna it's gonna take us brothers to do

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:25.320
<v Speaker 1>some of this stuff too. How would you use a

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>failure like dropping a pass to motivate you to succeed

0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:31.439
<v Speaker 1>in the next game or even the next play, rather

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 1>than beating yourself up? Mm hmm. I would beat myself

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>up a lot. I wouldn't necessarily use this motivation, you know.

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I I would look at the data and look at

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>my film, see why, how, what, when? Where? Also go

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 1>back you know, psychologically mentally and see where I was,

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 1>look at the the sequence of the game, why it happened,

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 1>what had transpired before that, and then also go back

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and look at practice. So it will be a lot

0:59:57.280 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of build up to it to be able to look

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>at it completely as data and not um as emotional

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and saying all that, professionally, I would still just analyze

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>myself and just be piste off and and and really

1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>just not liking um the outcome of dropping a pass.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a unique person, You are well worth it,

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you are competent, and most of all, your lovable. I'm

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