1
00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,120
Speaker 1: Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Clay

2
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,520
Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. It starts now, We've.

3
00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,400
Speaker 2: Got Clay in New York City and a very special

4
00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,759
Speaker 2: guest who has joined in the mix. Here, Clay, do

5
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,880
Speaker 2: we have his mic set up?

6
00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,080
Speaker 3: Though?

7
00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,000
Speaker 4: I think it's on. I mean he's used to talking

8
00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,040
Speaker 4: to a mike. Do we know?

9
00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,160
Speaker 5: We got to ask Mike Mamon, Mike my moon, my mic,

10
00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,240
Speaker 5: My mic is on the great Mike mamone.

11
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

12
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 5: What an honor to be in the Clay and Buck studio, which,

13
00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,040
Speaker 5: by the way, is adjacent to my studio when I'm

14
00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,440
Speaker 5: in New York City doing these big audience shows which

15
00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:36,920
Speaker 5: are fun.

16
00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm on tonight.

17
00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,120
Speaker 5: We're on tonight. Yeah, fun, we love it. We got

18
00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,640
Speaker 5: to get Buck in the mix. We got to have

19
00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,440
Speaker 5: you on as well. How are you, my friend?

20
00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm good. You know I'm down TV.

21
00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,120
Speaker 4: By the way, Uh, well, we've got video. I think

22
00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,519
Speaker 4: the back of your head is going to be on

23
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 4: the video right here. You can wave to people there.

24
00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, back of my head looks better. You know anybody watching.

25
00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's funny because I was like, so,

26
00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 2: do we introduce Sean Hannity to everybody, or just accept

27
00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,360
Speaker 2: that everybody listening knows his voice, so we know that

28
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,000
Speaker 2: it's Shawn, So we got.

29
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,559
Speaker 5: I don't know about. By the way, congrats to both

30
00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,960
Speaker 5: of you. You have been kicking ass in radio. Very

31
00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,520
Speaker 5: happy for both of you, and it's a tough business.

32
00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,440
Speaker 5: I've been believe it or not. My radio career started

33
00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,640
Speaker 5: before Clay was born, but in nineteen eighty seven was

34
00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:23,479
Speaker 5: the first time I.

35
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,479
Speaker 2: Got buck was barely here, I mean your first of all,

36
00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Sean Clay was born. Clay was riding a horse to school.

37
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 2: Clay's been around a long time.

38
00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,080
Speaker 5: I've been on Harmony nine No. I started at a

39
00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,400
Speaker 5: university station in California. They rightly fired me in forty hours.

40
00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,280
Speaker 5: I had a one hour a week show, was awful,

41
00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,520
Speaker 5: like every other show on a college station. But the

42
00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,240
Speaker 5: minute that light went on, that just changed my life.

43
00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 6: Now.

44
00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560
Speaker 5: Interestingly, I didn't know what I was doing when I

45
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,640
Speaker 5: was growing up, but I just had the radio on

46
00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,120
Speaker 5: all the time. I was listening to the great pioneers

47
00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,240
Speaker 5: of talk radio in New York, and when I lived

48
00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,880
Speaker 5: in Rhode Island five years, I listened to Gene Burns

49
00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,440
Speaker 5: and and Jerry Williams, and David Brudnoy In New York.

50
00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,280
Speaker 5: It was Barry Farber, Barry Gray. Later on came, hey,

51
00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,280
Speaker 5: let's be heard, Bob Grant, get off my phone, new scumbag,

52
00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,120
Speaker 5: you know, various cerbic New York talk radio and uh,

53
00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,520
Speaker 5: and then I got hired in Huntsville, Alabama. Had a

54
00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,799
Speaker 5: thick New York accent. And you'll get a kick out

55
00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,919
Speaker 5: of this from a story. So, uh, you know, I'm

56
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,680
Speaker 5: Shawn from New York. I didn't of college football is not,

57
00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,200
Speaker 5: as you know, a religion in New York like it

58
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,120
Speaker 5: is the rest of the country.

59
00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,760
Speaker 2: Sean, I don't even know what Clay was talking about

60
00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,800
Speaker 2: when he showed up here talking about the SEC. I

61
00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,280
Speaker 2: was like, don't be investigate you for taxes.

62
00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,600
Speaker 5: Well I know now because both of my kids were

63
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,080
Speaker 5: Division one athletes and but but the funny thing is,

64
00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,040
Speaker 5: so I go to Alabama, It's like I had no

65
00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,480
Speaker 5: idea about roll Tide and war Eagle and Sean, Hey know, man,

66
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,120
Speaker 5: welcome to Huntsville. Man, you talk funny. I'm like, what

67
00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,000
Speaker 5: do you mean i'd talk funny? I'm from New York.

68
00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,440
Speaker 5: You talk funny? What I'm here? I'm drinking coffee doing

69
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,959
Speaker 5: talk radio. I had a thick, thick New York accent

70
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,440
Speaker 5: at the time.

71
00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,519
Speaker 4: Didn't even know it. That's the weird thing, o. Yeah,

72
00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,520
Speaker 4: because you don't know wherever you're from. It's like what

73
00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,160
Speaker 4: people sound like, right right.

74
00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,800
Speaker 5: And I learned that I'm a Southerner at heart for sure.

75
00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,840
Speaker 5: I cannot stand New York. I hate it and I

76
00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,160
Speaker 5: can't even the words don't even come to me. Guy

77
00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040
Speaker 5: says roll tight. I said, what's that? And then I

78
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,960
Speaker 5: literally became a star because of being that stupid you know,

79
00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,880
Speaker 5: the guy with the new When I left town, they

80
00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 5: had an article on the paper, goodbye to the talk

81
00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,960
Speaker 5: show host from Hell. I should have had a and

82
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,840
Speaker 5: I left it. I went to Atlanta four years. What

83
00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 5: did they pay you?

84
00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,040
Speaker 4: And uh, do you remember your salary?

85
00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,360
Speaker 5: And I remember nineteen thousand dollars a year.

86
00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,400
Speaker 4: But this is always what we talked about.

87
00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,040
Speaker 5: You guys are on that station w VANN and Huntsville.

88
00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,560
Speaker 2: This is what we always talk to people in media.

89
00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,760
Speaker 2: What was your first salary my first media salary. Yes,

90
00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,120
Speaker 2: it was less than what I was making at the CIA.

91
00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, you weren't wait, you weren't making real money

92
00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,600
Speaker 5: at the CIA.

93
00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,560
Speaker 2: Well, not. I mean when you say, real, we have

94
00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,320
Speaker 2: paid the government, you know you're making like, well, wait a.

95
00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240
Speaker 5: Minute, I saved my figure nineteen grand. What would what

96
00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,600
Speaker 5: were you being paid.

97
00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,640
Speaker 2: At the CIA?

98
00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,600
Speaker 5: My first No, no, not at the CIA. What did

99
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,680
Speaker 5: you asked? The first job?

100
00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:18,839
Speaker 1: Right?

101
00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Blaze?

102
00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,599
Speaker 1: What did the Blaze pay you?

103
00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,200
Speaker 5: We might I don't wanta back here.

104
00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,120
Speaker 2: I could say it was less. It was less than

105
00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,440
Speaker 2: six figures. I'll tell you that.

106
00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,640
Speaker 4: So for you, buck, when I started writing online, I

107
00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,000
Speaker 4: got paid one hundred dollars a week. I wrote three

108
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,159
Speaker 4: columns a week. I got paid one hundred five thousand

109
00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,919
Speaker 4: dollars a year. I do have a fun one for you.

110
00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,000
Speaker 4: I remember the first thing that I think I ever

111
00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,560
Speaker 4: published and got paid for was it was back in the.

112
00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,919
Speaker 2: Day so I could all wanted to start booing. It

113
00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,160
Speaker 2: was National Review and I published article National Review I'll

114
00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,720
Speaker 2: never forget, and I got a check in the mail

115
00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 2: from National Review. And I had like no money at all,

116
00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh sweet, I didn't even know it

117
00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,159
Speaker 2: was twenty five dollars. I got a check for twenty

118
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not that it's not the business that

119
00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,359
Speaker 2: people think it is, especially when you're when you started

120
00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,839
Speaker 2: out the the Uh yeah.

121
00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,799
Speaker 5: But I didn't. For me, I didn't care. I got

122
00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,520
Speaker 5: behind that microphone. Now as I'm driving cross country, I'm

123
00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,240
Speaker 5: not sure I could do a two hour, three hour

124
00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,320
Speaker 5: radio show. I'd never done one. I did a one

125
00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,920
Speaker 5: hour a week show. And you know, so I'm I'm

126
00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,240
Speaker 5: walking into the lines that I had a great guy.

127
00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560
Speaker 5: The two great people that believe to me. The owner

128
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,240
Speaker 5: of the station. I'm still friends with him. His name

129
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,760
Speaker 5: is Bill Donovan and just a great guy. And Dave Stone.

130
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,880
Speaker 5: Unfortunately guy passed away. You'd love his life story. He

131
00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,960
Speaker 5: was the former announcer for the Harlem Globe truck Wow

132
00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,080
Speaker 5: and I did. He just had to set up pipes.

133
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,719
Speaker 5: You just, man, why can't I have that voice?

134
00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:45,960
Speaker 2: Right?

135
00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,400
Speaker 5: And anyway, he was very, very pivotal in my career.

136
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,599
Speaker 5: I encouraged me the entire way. Two great years. Got

137
00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,119
Speaker 5: an opportunity to audition. They granted me the opportunity. I said,

138
00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,159
Speaker 5: you know, what should I do? And they said, no,

139
00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,520
Speaker 5: you gotta go. That was the answer that the owner

140
00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,680
Speaker 5: of the station gave me audition for two days in Atlanta.

141
00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,320
Speaker 5: Competed against Neil Boortz, which was the best thing that

142
00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,480
Speaker 5: ever happened to me, because he was great on the radio.

143
00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,479
Speaker 5: He's a genius and we had radio wars like we'd

144
00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,400
Speaker 5: never had before. Left there to go to Fox in

145
00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,599
Speaker 5: ninety six, when I left the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I

146
00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,719
Speaker 5: got a complex over this year. In addition, nineteen ninety

147
00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,039
Speaker 5: six a great year the Olympics came, Sean Hannity left.

148
00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm beginning to think that people don't like me.

149
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,359
Speaker 5: I'm Glad Clay and buck.

150
00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,600
Speaker 4: Do Sean Bucket and I talked a lot about your

151
00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,520
Speaker 4: interview with Gavin Newsom.

152
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, why do you think he did it.

153
00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:42,440
Speaker 6: Well?

154
00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,800
Speaker 5: I think he trusted me enough when I said I'd

155
00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,640
Speaker 5: give him space, I'd give him an opportunity to answer,

156
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,920
Speaker 5: and I've known him long enough to have that relationship

157
00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,279
Speaker 5: with him. I said, look, I'm giving you my word.

158
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,000
Speaker 5: I'm a man of honor. I said, I I don't.

159
00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,960
Speaker 5: We can get on there and just speak over each

160
00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640
Speaker 5: other and nobody's going to gain anything from that. I said,

161
00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,120
Speaker 5: you and I disagree passionately on issues, and I think

162
00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,880
Speaker 5: it would be good for the country to see I

163
00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,200
Speaker 5: actually personally like him. He's nuts politically like the guy,

164
00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,040
Speaker 5: very personable. I mean, he's you and Clay agree on

165
00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,200
Speaker 5: this one. I want to say you and I said,

166
00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,840
Speaker 5: I disagree with him on so much. He's a very

167
00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,000
Speaker 5: likable guy, central casting politician. Remember when he walked into

168
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 5: the Oval and took that jacket and flung it around.

169
00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, he's he's.

170
00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,480
Speaker 2: Fuck makes fun of me.

171
00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:36,880
Speaker 6: Buck.

172
00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,160
Speaker 5: I'm telling Muck why.

173
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,320
Speaker 2: It's all right? No, because because I just know that

174
00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 2: any day now I'm gonna see Clay and Gavin drinking

175
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,200
Speaker 2: some chardena up and NAPA talking about how they're going

176
00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400
Speaker 2: to fix the country. But you know, Sean, there's there's like.

177
00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,040
Speaker 5: A broad is good why he owns a winery.

178
00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,120
Speaker 2: I of course he does. Oh I'm sure. Look you

179
00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,640
Speaker 2: want you know, wine with Gavin and stock tips with Nancy.

180
00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,480
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good stuff to do up in California.

181
00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,280
Speaker 2: But you know, and I remember, and I know your

182
00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,640
Speaker 2: former co host Alan, you know, passed away some years ago.

183
00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840
Speaker 2: Rest in peace. I remember the days when there was

184
00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,160
Speaker 2: more debate, like I remember the Henny and Combs days.

185
00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 2: I remember the crossfire days. I feel like now our

186
00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,000
Speaker 2: industry has turned into basically the libs don't ever want

187
00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,600
Speaker 2: a debate anymore. Like these people at MSNBC, CNN, name

188
00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,440
Speaker 2: and network, they name a podcast or a big liberal podcaster.

189
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 2: They want, I mean, are you seeing a change in that,

190
00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,720
Speaker 2: Like because of Gavin Newsom came on your show, do

191
00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,800
Speaker 2: you think the people who just are tired of the

192
00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,120
Speaker 2: preaching to the choir from the left thing all the time?

193
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Because I think debate would be great, because I think

194
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,680
Speaker 2: we would win.

195
00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:46,200
Speaker 5: Any time you put conservatism up against liberalism, it wins.

196
00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,640
Speaker 5: And I felt I wanted to be creative and come

197
00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,000
Speaker 5: up with the way when I was interviewing him to

198
00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,240
Speaker 5: make my points, but not have it be you know,

199
00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,120
Speaker 5: a long question or argumentative or disagree on facts. So

200
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,200
Speaker 5: I came in with a pile of graphs and I said,

201
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,680
Speaker 5: all right, here are the number of people leaving your state,

202
00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,720
Speaker 5: and here are the number of people migrating to Florida

203
00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920
Speaker 5: every single week, including Buck Sexton, right, exactly, very smart, Buck,

204
00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,600
Speaker 5: you have more sense than anybody. And or this is

205
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,599
Speaker 5: the number almost population. This is the list of businesses

206
00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,040
Speaker 5: who are moving their headquarters out of your state. You know,

207
00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,240
Speaker 5: this is the these are the crime statistics, and and

208
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,360
Speaker 5: this is the cost for medical with the illegal immigration.

209
00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,880
Speaker 5: So I try to do it that way, and I

210
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040
Speaker 5: give the audience a lot of credit that when they

211
00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,040
Speaker 5: see that, and he says, yeah, but but but but

212
00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,880
Speaker 5: those companies still have employees here. They're all moving their

213
00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,760
Speaker 5: corporate headquarters out, but to save Johnny.

214
00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 2: And I, you know, I talked to Clay about this,

215
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,280
Speaker 2: and my theory on this is with Gavin Newsom, what

216
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,480
Speaker 2: you're seeing is whenever collectivists or you know, socialists take

217
00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,560
Speaker 2: over anything, especially if they take over something as rich

218
00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,079
Speaker 2: and bountiful in all senses as California, they say, oh,

219
00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360
Speaker 2: it's not you know, things are great. Look at these numbers. Well,

220
00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,680
Speaker 2: he inherited Silicon Valley, he inherited Hollywood and the entertainment

221
00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240
Speaker 2: industry out there. But the decisions that he makes, it

222
00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,120
Speaker 2: reminds me of Blasio in New York. Right, Deblasio takes

223
00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,559
Speaker 2: over for years, it's the city's great, there's so much investment. Well,

224
00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,560
Speaker 2: it takes time to ruin things. And I feel like

225
00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,440
Speaker 2: with Gavin Newsom, he keeps pointing to things that have

226
00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120
Speaker 2: always been true of California, but the things that are

227
00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,160
Speaker 2: his fault he just pretends aren't happening.

228
00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,640
Speaker 5: He owned a couple of things. He owned the homelessness problem.

229
00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 5: I played a tape of him in two thousand and

230
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,040
Speaker 5: eight saying, this is my ten year plan of you know,

231
00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,440
Speaker 5: stop homelessness, admitted he failed. The more fun part of

232
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,000
Speaker 5: it for me was one. And then I had a

233
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,480
Speaker 5: monitor next to us and I played the cognitive mess

234
00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,640
Speaker 5: Joe Biden that has no clue that today is Thursday.

235
00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,440
Speaker 5: And I said, okay, Joe Biden could not engage in

236
00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,240
Speaker 5: the conversation we're having. You're telling me you think he

237
00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,120
Speaker 5: is cognitive strong enough to be president, and oh, yeah,

238
00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160
Speaker 5: I know he is. I don't believe he believes that.

239
00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,280
Speaker 5: And now I give a lot of credit for loyalty.

240
00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,480
Speaker 5: I think he'd being a loyal Democrat. Okay, fair enough. However,

241
00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,360
Speaker 5: he knows he's not there. Now. I think the odds,

242
00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,720
Speaker 5: and we discussed this the last time, Clay you were

243
00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,920
Speaker 5: on the TV show. The odds he's that Biden is

244
00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:28,520
Speaker 5: not the Democratic presidential candidate as of now are high.

245
00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,559
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Buck disagree.

246
00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,559
Speaker 2: You're killing me now, you Uncle Bill, Bill O'Reilly and

247
00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:35,959
Speaker 2: all agree on this one.

248
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,240
Speaker 5: You call O'Reilly uncle Bill. Really, I call him a

249
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,360
Speaker 5: simple Manaday, I'm a simple man, I'm just gonna give

250
00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,480
Speaker 5: a simple analysis. Uh well, I'll tell you. But here's

251
00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,240
Speaker 5: the buck. You're going to probably be proven right for

252
00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,760
Speaker 5: this reason. The dates of filing to get on my back,

253
00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,320
Speaker 5: you know, they're they're fast approaching, so you you probably

254
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,240
Speaker 5: will be proven right.

255
00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,839
Speaker 2: So I think Gavin's preparing. Look and Sean, I think

256
00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,640
Speaker 2: this is why we're seeing him do your show for example,

257
00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,679
Speaker 2: just because of the broad viewership and then also putting

258
00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,080
Speaker 2: him in the national conversation. He knows twenty twenty eight

259
00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,600
Speaker 2: wide open. No matter who wins twenty twenty four, right,

260
00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,920
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because they're gonna get well, assuming it's either

261
00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,319
Speaker 2: Trump or Biden, you're gonna get a one termer. And

262
00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,280
Speaker 2: I think that the other part of this is if

263
00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,000
Speaker 2: you did have an open Democrat primary, there's gonna be

264
00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,800
Speaker 2: a lot of Democrats who get in the mix. So

265
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,520
Speaker 2: it's not as easy as Gavin gets the coronation if

266
00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,120
Speaker 2: it weren't going to be Biden running. But do you

267
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,319
Speaker 2: think that we had I think it was Nicki Haley

268
00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,080
Speaker 2: on recently Sean, and she said that a vote for

269
00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,439
Speaker 2: Biden is really a vote for Kamala because in her mind,

270
00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,000
Speaker 2: there's no chance Biden's going to make it through term two,

271
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,320
Speaker 2: so it just turns into a Kamala presidency. You buy

272
00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,679
Speaker 2: into that.

273
00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,680
Speaker 5: I think there's a look at him. I mean, the

274
00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,560
Speaker 5: guy can't stand up. What was even worse than the

275
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,040
Speaker 5: fault at the Air Force Academy is that watch when

276
00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,600
Speaker 5: he tries to get up. Yeah, and he kind of

277
00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,200
Speaker 5: started getting up and went right back down again, and

278
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,160
Speaker 5: then Bobby people came to his rescue. Appropriate that they did.

279
00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,360
Speaker 5: I think that's probably a good observation on Nikki Haley's

280
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,480
Speaker 5: part in my view, And I think there is probably

281
00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,200
Speaker 5: an undercurrent a battle going on between Gavin and Kamala

282
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,600
Speaker 5: in that department. What I'd like to see. The one

283
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,120
Speaker 5: thing that did surprise me, they've had this cold war

284
00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,720
Speaker 5: Ron De Santis and Gavin Newsom state to state. You

285
00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,160
Speaker 5: know which state is freer, which state has better policies,

286
00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,040
Speaker 5: Which state works for the people better, Which state taxes more?

287
00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,320
Speaker 5: Why is Florida gaining population? Why is California? Gavin Newsom

288
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,560
Speaker 5: is the first governor in the history of California to

289
00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,120
Speaker 5: ever lose population, and he's losing it a mass. So

290
00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,559
Speaker 5: I would love that to me. I think that'll happen.

291
00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800
Speaker 4: I saw the Wall Street Journals gave you credit for

292
00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,199
Speaker 4: it on the editorial page and said, that's a great idea. Buck,

293
00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,120
Speaker 4: you think it'll happen, Sean, Do you think it'll happen?

294
00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,240
Speaker 2: It will? I don't know when, right, I mean, Sean,

295
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,280
Speaker 2: I think at some point it's an inevitability there'll be

296
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,000
Speaker 2: a Gavin Newsom DeSantis, But I don't know if it's

297
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,000
Speaker 2: now or if it's in prep for twenty eight. I

298
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,280
Speaker 2: don't know.

299
00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 5: I think, well, let's be honest here, a guy by

300
00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,440
Speaker 5: the name of Donald Trump sucks all the oxygen out

301
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,319
Speaker 5: of the room in terms of politics, and with all

302
00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,280
Speaker 5: these legal wranglings and probably more to come in Fulton

303
00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,239
Speaker 5: County and Washington, d C. That's a lot of oxygen.

304
00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,520
Speaker 5: If he doesn't show up at that Fox August debate,

305
00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,080
Speaker 5: it's not going to be his fun And you think

306
00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,160
Speaker 5: he will. You think he'll go to the Fox August No,

307
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,160
Speaker 5: I do not. If you ask me today, No, I

308
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760
Speaker 5: don't think he'll be there. They're even talking about the

309
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,920
Speaker 5: Florida trial and for Pierce Now at that time. But

310
00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,640
Speaker 5: if I was advising Ronda Santis now, I did reach

311
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,320
Speaker 5: out to his team and they said they get back

312
00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 5: to me. And I'm sure there's probably some internal debate

313
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,960
Speaker 5: going on if I was them, two hour debate, Gavin Newsom,

314
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,080
Speaker 5: California versus Florida, what is your vision for America in

315
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,360
Speaker 5: the future. I don't care if Gavin's a presidential candidate

316
00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 5: or not. I would do that every day of the week.

317
00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, block be a total blockbuster and the country needs

318
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,240
Speaker 2: to see it. Sean. I mean that's the country should

319
00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,200
Speaker 2: see because those are heavyweights on both sides, respectively. It's

320
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,880
Speaker 2: not a Clay Pigeon situation where someone's gonna just get obliterated.

321
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,080
Speaker 5: Right.

322
00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,680
Speaker 2: It's a fair match between new some it's in terms

323
00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,600
Speaker 2: of what they represent.

324
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,640
Speaker 5: The liberals will think that Gavin one and conservatives will

325
00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,960
Speaker 5: believe that that Ron DeSantis won. To me, the facts

326
00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,680
Speaker 5: are on the Santa's side, and there's a lot to

327
00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,160
Speaker 5: go at Gavin with.

328
00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,840
Speaker 4: But Gavin's more, he's more likable. This is where it

329
00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,680
Speaker 4: comes back, Sean, I watched the interview, but makes fun

330
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:33,880
Speaker 4: of me.

331
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,320
Speaker 5: He's more personable than Rock.

332
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and now now Clay makes fun of me because

333
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360
Speaker 2: I say that Kamala is still the who the Democrats

334
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,840
Speaker 2: are going to make presenty and he says, I'm like

335
00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,680
Speaker 2: Kamala's lawyer.

336
00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,000
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the passage of time means that

337
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:54,280
Speaker 5: together we're passing through time, and together we're all passing

338
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,880
Speaker 5: through time. I mean, she comes up with these words styles,

339
00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,480
Speaker 5: they drive me nuts. That to me would be the

340
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,360
Speaker 5: heavyweight pay per view political debate. And Gavin even agreed

341
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,680
Speaker 5: to let me be the moderator.

342
00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,960
Speaker 2: It's good for you to make those guys. We're reaching

343
00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,680
Speaker 2: out to his team, Sewan. Just you know, we're following

344
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,640
Speaker 2: in the following in the wake here of trying to

345
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 2: get Gavin with us.

346
00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,720
Speaker 5: Sean, as long as you show my show.

347
00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 2: But because we gotta we got a technically theyre yell atim,

348
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,720
Speaker 2: we've got to break Sean handed. Everybody showing thank you.

349
00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,240
Speaker 5: So much, yelling mamone just gave me the figure. By

350
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,160
Speaker 5: the way, he's been doing that for you know, twenty

351
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 5: seven years since I've known Mike Mamone. But all righty Sean,

352
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,400
Speaker 5: thanks so much, Ben Russia with us. Thank you, Sean,

353
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,960
Speaker 5: congrats on your success. Thanks for having me.

354
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:40,720
Speaker 2: Thank you.

355
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,520
Speaker 1: Sunday hang with Clay and Buck.

356
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,680
Speaker 2: I want to put out a question to the audience

357
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,520
Speaker 2: and maybe this is a great place for our VIPs

358
00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,120
Speaker 2: to weigh in and they don't feel like calling in

359
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,000
Speaker 2: on this one. Clayanbuck dot com please go there, subscribe,

360
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,760
Speaker 2: become a vip can he Throughout the show, you see

361
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,840
Speaker 2: there was a a what was it this fish that

362
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,480
Speaker 2: was caught? I'm assuming this was Wait is this? Am

363
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,640
Speaker 2: I thinking of something that happened. I hate when there's

364
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:19,280
Speaker 2: something that happens that was old and is now Yeah, recirculates,

365
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,640
Speaker 2: is recirculating, you know what? Free I was gonna ask

366
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 2: because I saw this thing about a big blue marlin

367
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,440
Speaker 2: that was caught. Now I'm realizing it's kind of old.

368
00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,440
Speaker 2: Are you a deep sea fishing guy?

369
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,639
Speaker 5: I love it.

370
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,400
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not a good fisherman in general. Like I'm

371
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280
Speaker 4: on the lake up here in New York right now.

372
00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I lived in the Caribbean for a

373
00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,840
Speaker 4: couple of years, and so I was on an island

374
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,680
Speaker 4: in the US Virgin Islands. I lived on Saint Thomas.

375
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 4: I still have my law license down there, and I'd

376
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,560
Speaker 4: never been out deep sea fishing. And I went out

377
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,960
Speaker 4: deep sea fishing and caught a shark. If I told

378
00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,400
Speaker 4: you this story, like I caught a shark. We had

379
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,119
Speaker 4: a barracuda on the line. This massive shark while we

380
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,440
Speaker 4: had the barracuda on the line, came up and bit

381
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,679
Speaker 4: the barracuda and then took the hook, and so we

382
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 4: brought in the shark. This has been like twenty years ago.

383
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,159
Speaker 4: And then I caught one of the big sale you know,

384
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,400
Speaker 4: the like the selfish Yeah, you put those back in.

385
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,120
Speaker 2: I ate fastest fish and it was pretty incredible. Fastest

386
00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 2: fish in the world. The sailfish fastest thing, isn't that true?

387
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

388
00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, was not off Miami like they have

389
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,919
Speaker 4: the sailfish like you go out of ways off Miami

390
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 4: and you can catch one. There's a picture of me

391
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,440
Speaker 4: holding the sailfish.

392
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

393
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000
Speaker 2: So this this is a fishtail that is true and

394
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 2: is recent. I actually was pulling it up and I

395
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 2: saw another one that was so They this crew of

396
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 2: fishermen in North Carolina, Moorhead City, and there's a whole

397
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 2: bunch of them. There's like a dozen people in this photo.

398
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 2: They caught a six hundred pound marlin, which is massive. Obviously,

399
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 2: they won a three point five million dollars hot for

400
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:05,120
Speaker 2: catching this fish, but then it was disqualified because the

401
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 2: fish had been bitten by some sharks when it was

402
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 2: being brought in, and apparently that is against the rules.

403
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,480
Speaker 2: Now I'm just gonna go and say it. This strikes

404
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 2: me as an injustice. Not quite indicting a former president

405
00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 2: level injustice, but like, this is bad man. These guys

406
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 2: won three point five million. I mean, it's crazy to me. Crazy.

407
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 4: It feels like it's gonna end in litigation. This is

408
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 4: also the story of the Old Man in the Sea

409
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 4: he caught the Marlin, and then Hemingway's Great Tale from Cuba,

410
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 4: and then Santiago, And I'm doing this for memory. Santiago

411
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 4: tries to you can use this as your cliff notes

412
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,959
Speaker 4: version if your kid's out for the summer and this

413
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: is in your summer reading and Grandpa or dad, who

414
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 4: got you listening. Then they try to bring back the marlin,

415
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 4: and the sharks eat the whole marlin, and he arrives

416
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 4: with just the bones.

417
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember remember Hemingway reading it

418
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: in high school.

419
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

420
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put this out there though. This is

421
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 2: what I don't understand. If it's so, it's a tournament.

422
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: This is the sixty fifth Big Rock Blue Marlin tournament

423
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: in Morehead City, North Carolina, just happened this weekend. So

424
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 2: it is the story that I thought it was. It

425
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 2: was very recent, three point five million dollars in prize money.

426
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: What I don't understand, I asked this in all honesty,

427
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 2: is is there like I mean, everyone's out there on

428
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 2: the boats, everyone's putting the reel and the you know,

429
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: putting the lure and nothing real the lure in the water.

430
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like like, is this just luck? Or is

431
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: there skill involved in this? I know it's not like anathema.

432
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: Am I not allowed to ask that?

433
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: Like?

434
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 2: How how is one person better at deep sea fishing

435
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: than another? This is I'm probably gonna get absolutely hammered over.

436
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 2: I don't understand, Like, what is Isn't it just you know,

437
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: you put the you put the lures out. I don't

438
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: know if we have some deep sea because so I'm

439
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 2: also I get C six. I'm a huge whimp. So

440
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: I I have no knowledge of this.

441
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: Whatsoever you are gonna get this is gonna make the

442
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: walking treadmill anger. You're gonna get destroyed by fishermen over

443
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 4: this buck. There is depth, there is lure choices, there

444
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 4: is location like a great fisherman knows where the fish are.

445
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: That's a huge percentage of.

446
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: So you're telling me.

447
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: You're telling me if you, me and a few buddies

448
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: went out on the same kind of boat as some

449
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: of these other guys, the other guys who have been

450
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,239
Speaker 2: fishing for Actually, no, that would make sense because they

451
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: probably have a better sense of where to drop the lure.

452
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know.

453
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 4: It's like saying, if you have never golfed before, are

454
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: you gonna win the US to open?

455
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: No?

456
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 4: Come on, that's It's not like fishermen are going to

457
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 4: dominate the the the you know, like weekend fishermen, the

458
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: anglers who are not as successful. I mean, I apologize

459
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: big Fish, big Fish Universe.

460
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: His name is Buck Sexton.

461
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 4: I want to disavow all anti fishing.

462
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: I like fishing. I just I thought, you know, look,

463
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: there's the skill. If I'm sitting there in a canoe

464
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: and I'm throwing the lure out there in the water,

465
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: you know, you win some, you lose some, right, but

466
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: like somehow three point five million dollar prize.

467
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 5: That's it.

468
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

469
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: It feels like the sharks coming after the marlin should

470
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: be seen.

471
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: Kim in Greenville, North Carolina, on the fish story, Kim,

472
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: what have you got for us?

473
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: So, Buck, this is a big as you know, sixty

474
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: five year old tournament. Overall prize money is eight point

475
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 3: five million. This year, two hundred one boat's entered. Michael

476
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: Jordan's entered year for year. He didn't come this year,

477
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: but his boat was entered. So the ruling is, if

478
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: any fish is mutilated, prop cut, fish spikes, if anyway

479
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: the surface of the tissue has been altered or mutilated,

480
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: they disqualify it. No explanation why from the board, but

481
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: the theory is, you know, if two fishs came in

482
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: around six hundred nineteen pounds and one guy says, well,

483
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: mine had big chunks out of it, so you know

484
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 3: I was the winner, it had to be bigger. They've

485
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: never explained it, but they have invoked the rules before.

486
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: There's never lawsuits about it. Everybody abides the ruling. But

487
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: for that kind of prize money, they have to disqualify

488
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: any fish that's not you know, intact, and for three

489
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: and a half million dollars. So the rule so there's

490
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: two ways he got that money. Any fish over five

491
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 3: hundred pounds wins seven hundred and thirty nine thousand dollars

492
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: this year up until Friday. It's a Monday through Saturday tournament.

493
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: Up until Friday, the largest fish was four hundred and

494
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: eighty four pounds Saturday. This guy hooked up at two fifteen,

495
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: just before the three o'clock stopped time. He was hooked

496
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: up before three, so he was allowed to fight.

497
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 6: It.

498
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: Took him eight hour hours to land the fish. Landed

499
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: it on his boat at ten fifteen. They got into

500
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: the docks at eleven thirty for the way in. So

501
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: he was not only the first fish over five hundred

502
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: pounds this year, but he was the largest fish but

503
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: blue marlins for the tournament. So that's what won him

504
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: three point five million dollars.

505
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: Kim, that's amazing. Thank you so much. Excellent rundown of

506
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: that amazing fishing.

507
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: Tournament Sundays with Clay and Buck.

508
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: So we talked about the spirit of exploration as well,

509
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: and I gave Clay some time to I'll go first,

510
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: and I will admit this is controversial. When I say favorite,

511
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't mean like the nicest, best guy, I mean

512
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: the most incredible story YEP, because it combines exploration with

513
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: what some would argue is one of the most improbable

514
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: military campaign successes of all time, Hernan Cortes early fifteen

515
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: hundred's conquering the Aztec Empire. It's a crazy story. This

516
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: guy shows up with roughly one hundred, one hundred to

517
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: two hundred guys. I think it will. It's not a

518
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: lot of them. They take on a three million person

519
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: empire and somehow overthrow the whole thing.

520
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: That's a great one. I'll give you a trio Lewis

521
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: and Clark. I've talked about this on the show. This

522
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: is our two year anniversary. Now, if you trust me

523
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: on anything.

524
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: The nice, safe, pro American, no genocide involved, no man

525
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: that's coming.

526
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 4: Oh oh that's coming. Oh that's coming, undaunted courage go

527
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: read it. I'll continue to tell anybody who works in entertainment,

528
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: turn it into a television series. It'll be the greatest

529
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 4: streaming success story. You thought that Taylor, Sheridan and Yellowstone

530
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: in eighteen eighty three and nineteen thirty three or whatever

531
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 4: the heck, all the different years are that he's built that.

532
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: My favorites Lewis and Clark on the On the I

533
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 4: don't think there's really a negative with Lewis and Clark

534
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: right for the most part, I know there was some

535
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: Native American interaction, most part very good. By the way,

536
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 4: we're gonna take your calls on this sub and exploration

537
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: because they've got a lot of interesting ones coming up

538
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: here in a second. But Buck, I'm still a Columbus guy.

539
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 4: I think Columbus doesn't get enough for all.

540
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 6: Right.

541
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: See, I was gonna you're not shying away from you know,

542
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: they call him a like a genocidal Maydia. Yeah, well,

543
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: I mean not accurate, but they really hate Columbus more

544
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: than almost and it's amazing you compare Columbus to Tzarro

545
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: or Cortes. Columbus was a boy scout.

546
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 5: Buck.

547
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: When Columbus left huge portions all of the intelligent people

548
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: in the world, many of them intelligent the experts of

549
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: their day, thought he was just going to sail off

550
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: the side of the world. Right that the world just

551
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: ended and he was going over the edge.

552
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.

553
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 4: Coach Bill Courtney, who just launched a new podcast on

554
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: iHeart called an Army of Normal Folks. He's also the

555
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: subject and I love this movie. Some of you may

556
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: have seen it. It won an Oscar in documentary the

557
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: documentary category called Undefeated, author of Against the Grain, and

558
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 4: I want to start, Coach with the movie Undefeated for

559
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 4: those of you out there who are looking for something

560
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 4: that you might want to watch with your family if

561
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 4: you haven't seen this, it's the story of Bill and

562
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: a inner city Memphis team and their quest to try

563
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 4: to win a state championship. And really you see the

564
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: degree to which and this is why I was so

565
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: fired up about COVID shutting down so many schools. A

566
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: huge percentage of boys, and I know a lot of

567
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: you out there listening know exactly what I'm talking about,

568
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: and I want you to explain it for people who may.

569
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Not see it.

570
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: Coach, A huge percentage of boys out there, especially in

571
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: inner cities, stay in school so they can play sports.

572
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the truth. And you hope the

573
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: light bulb is going to go off at some point, basketball, football,

574
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: but whatever the sport is. Coach, what did you see

575
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: and how important when that movie Undefeated came out, which

576
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: won an Oscar and it's fabulous. I encourage you guys

577
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: all to watch it. How much does just playing a

578
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: sport help to keep so many kids out there on

579
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 4: the straight and narrow and even enrolled in school period.

580
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 6: Well, it's the hook. I mean, I can't tell you

581
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 6: how many people have come to me and said, you know,

582
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 6: I've tried to do this, I've tried to do that.

583
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 6: How do I reach this segment of people or this

584
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 6: segment of people and the answers. You got to have

585
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 6: a hook, And the hook for me was football. And

586
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 6: you're absolutely right. A lot of kids, obviously they have

587
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 6: it backwards. They're not in school to play football, they're

588
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 6: in school to learn. But the true candor is the

589
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 6: football is the hook, and that hook gives you an

590
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 6: opportunity to reach them on things that will hopefully last

591
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 6: long after football ends.

592
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Coach Bill, it's buck, thanks for being with us. So

593
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: Clay has been it. Thank you, Thank you. Clay has

594
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: been educating me on this PGA Live merger. A lot

595
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: of big headlines all across the internet. Some people very

596
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: very fired up over this. What do you think, I mean,

597
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: you're a guy who knows sports. What's going on?

598
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: You know?

599
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 6: I think it's a pot purry of gravy and mashed

600
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 6: potato was mixed up with egos, that God only knows

601
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 6: what that's going to taste like when it's over with. Frankly,

602
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: I mean, it's a lot of money, a lot of ego,

603
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 6: a lot of posturing, and you know, it's amazing. It's

604
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: almost like politics, how people can sit there and tell

605
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 6: one another how bad they don't like each other and

606
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 6: how much they distrust each other and how evil one

607
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 6: another are, and then somehow turn around and end up

608
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 6: in a bowl together. Yeah, I don't I don't know.

609
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 6: I think I think people should check their egos at

610
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: the door a little bit and avoid some of what

611
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 6: those guys are going through right now.

612
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: And would you tell us what you launched a podcast

613
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: on iHeart last month, an army actually of normal.

614
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 6: Actually today, guys today. I'm yeah, I've been working on

615
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: it for a year, actually doing it interviews and all,

616
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 6: but the first launch today on iHeart and it's yet

617
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 6: it's an army of normal folks. And yeah, it kind

618
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 6: of sounds goofy. But the idea is in all of

619
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 6: our urban areas, we drive around the cities and there's

620
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 6: these exits or all ramps or viaducts where you really

621
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 6: don't want your car to break down, or you have

622
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: a flat tire and you kind of look over the

623
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: edge of the viaduct as you pass by, and you think, man,

624
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: somebody had to do something about that one day, as

625
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 6: you kind of peer down at the despair and the disenfranchisement,

626
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 6: the poverty and the brokenness that continues to plague our

627
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: society and culture today, as if that sentiment matters. And

628
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 6: I don't think the sentiment means a damn thing, Frankly.

629
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: I think you had to tilt that review mirror about

630
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 6: thirty degrees and look yourself in the face and say,

631
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 6: you know, I ought to do something about that one day.

632
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 6: I think government has proven woefully inadequate and caring for

633
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: the most disadvantaged among us. I think it becomes paternalistic.

634
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 6: I think we strip people of the dignity and value

635
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: of hard work. And I think the more government, the worse.

636
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 6: And I think you can say that, but you're hypocritical

637
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: to say that if then you're not willing to get

638
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 6: off your butt and go do something in your communities

639
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 6: about things that that you can that you can do.

640
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: And so we've created this podcast called an Army of

641
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 6: Normal Folks, and we are interviewing I just don't think

642
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: the world's problems are going to be solved by fancy

643
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 6: people on Fox and CNN using big words that nobody understands.

644
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 6: I just I think. I think we have a lot

645
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 6: of dysfunction in DC. And you know, we have sought

646
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 6: out average, normal folks who have done extraordinary things in

647
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 6: their communities, and we're telling those stories. And we're not

648
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 6: telling those stories in a hallmark way with a pretty

649
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: bow wrapped up on it. All of us have failures, inhibitions,

650
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 6: and goals and dreams and sadness and excitement our life,

651
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 6: and so we kind of unpack each of these individuals

652
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: worlds where they came from and not why they did

653
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 6: something good because they're so wonderful, but really what they

654
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 6: overcame to be active in their communities and societies. And

655
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: we tell those stories each week, and the idea is

656
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 6: hopefully it's not only redemptive, but inspirational, and it motivates

657
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 6: all of us to say, I don't care if we're right, left, black, white, green, blue, Christian, Jewish, agnostic, whatever.

658
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: The one thing we all can do together is be

659
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: an army of normal folks serving those in our community.

660
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: Coach, last question for you, your story Undefeated, and I

661
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: would encourage people to check out the podcast that iheart's

662
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: distributing an army of normal folks. But in the movie

663
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: Undefeated spent obviously the huge part of that story is Memphis.

664
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: Right What can you tell us about what's going on

665
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: in the ground in Memphis right now? This show is

666
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: number one, I believe in the Memphis area. Tons of

667
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: people are listening there right now. Memphis has had a

668
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: brutal past several years. Your story was before COVID several

669
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: years before, but the struggles of the city has been

670
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: going through were certainly epitomized in that story. What is

671
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: the city of Memphis like now? And what needs to

672
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: happen in order for Memphis to get back to being

673
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: a place that frankly is safe and that allows as

674
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: many kids as possible to have productive futures.

675
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 6: Memphis is a cool place. First of all. I don't

676
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: want to rail on Memphis. I mean lots of culture,

677
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: lots of history, music, barbecue, FedEx World headquarter is their

678
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 6: international paper, AutoZone. Memphis has a lot going for it,

679
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 6: but you're absolutely right, it has a lot going against it.

680
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: And candidly, guys, I would love to be able to

681
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 6: join you all for two hours and talk every political

682
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 6: bit you guys can come up with. And I do

683
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 6: listen to you, and I you know, I love it.

684
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 6: But what I'm about to say is really not very sexy.

685
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 6: But it's just true. Until we start educating our children,

686
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 6: we are going to continue to have problems in our cities.

687
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 6: And education is really not a sexy buzzword. It's not

688
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 6: something that ever ticks in the top ten of politicians

689
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 6: worlds when they're out campaigning. But it's just true. And

690
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 6: the other truth to that is we all have a

691
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 6: problem with it. School Boards are typically elected, and so

692
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 6: we have a problem with our school boards. We have

693
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 6: a problem with our teachers and school unions. We have

694
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: a problem with our parents. We have a problem with

695
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 6: our administrators. We have a problem. And we sit there

696
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 6: and we see our city's tax bases dwindle because we

697
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 6: continue not to graduate productive citizens that are adding to

698
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 6: that tax base, and we see crime being committed by

699
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: younger and younger and younger people that should be in

700
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 6: high school or haven't been in high school, aren't learning anything.

701
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 6: And we sit around and talk about what are we

702
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 6: going to do? And meanwhile, we all are complicit in

703
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 6: a really poorly educated public, and until we get serious

704
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 6: about taking care of our kids, we're going to continue

705
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: to perpetuate generational poverty and crime. And I think Memphis

706
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 6: is suffering from that, but I also think so do

707
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 6: many mutropolitan areas around our country, and it gets worse

708
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 6: and worse till we get serious about it. I fear

709
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: we're going to continue to suffer the consequences of that

710
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 6: inaction on our part.

711
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: Coach Bill, thanks so much for being here. The podcast

712
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: is out for everyone to check out. An Army of

713
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: Normal Folks launched on iHeart today. It's out. Go check

714
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: it out.

715
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 6: Thanks guys,