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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Hammer Territory Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: Episode two five five. I am your host, Brad Rowland

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Speaker 1: on a Sunday evening, and I am not joined by

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Speaker 1: Scott Coleman. In fact, I've been gone. Now Scott's gone,

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Speaker 1: but look, no one cares where Scott is. We have

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Speaker 1: we have an old friend on the podcast today. His

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Speaker 1: name if you were familiar with the podcast for a

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Speaker 1: lot talking right, No, his name, but his name is

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Speaker 1: Eric cole Eric. Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you? Bradford? I mean, it's been three or

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Speaker 2: four years since I was on the podcast last time. No,

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Speaker 2: you were, I've kind of forgotten your face.

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Speaker 1: That's not true, that means not true.

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Speaker 3: Look, I just just go back through the tape and

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Speaker 3: just kind of let's let's figure this out, because I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think we were talking about Ozzie I'll be being

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Speaker 3: traded the last time I was on.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: And this is what you're gonna get with with Eric

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Everybody, Uh, just a little intro. Eric's

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Speaker 1: on the show once earlier this year. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: it was the end of.

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Speaker 2: Last year, right, it actually it was before the season

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Speaker 2: four season.

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Speaker 1: There you go off season. Uh, but Eric and I

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Speaker 1: and Scott actually the three of us did a lot

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Speaker 1: of podcasts together at a different place that kind of

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Speaker 1: became this podcast in a roundabout way. Uh, Eric is

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Speaker 1: still covering the braves. I'll let you plug all the

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Speaker 1: things later on. But you're still are you still coming

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Speaker 1: to braves regularly? You're wearing braves? Scared if you were

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Speaker 1: not watching on YouTube? By the way, a plea early

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Speaker 1: in the podcast. But where we do this? If you're

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Speaker 1: an audio listener, which I always say, I'm an audio

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Speaker 1: podcast listener, I don't know about you, Eric, I'm an

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Speaker 1: audio podcast listener. But if you're we could just take

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Speaker 1: a second and subscribe on YouTube. It'd be awesome to

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Speaker 1: help us grow the show. So even if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to watch on YouTube, that's cool. Please debscribe there

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Speaker 1: as well audio platforms. Subscribe. Tell your friends. But Eric,

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Speaker 1: let's just start in a weird place, requres honest of

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Speaker 1: the even go ahead, Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: But before we kind of get into the nitty gritty

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Speaker 3: bread we were talking before the show, and this was

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Speaker 3: actually very magnanimous of you talking about this guy of

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Speaker 3: like ideas for like spreading love for the show and like.

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Speaker 2: Getting it out there.

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Speaker 3: If this, if this podcast right here gets two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty likes, Brad has agreed on the show to

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Speaker 3: sing the entirety of the Michigan Fight Song, and I'm

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Speaker 3: telling you you have not lived until you've heard Brad

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Speaker 3: Rowland sing at full volume. So I just personally think

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Speaker 3: for that it'd be great for audio listeners in the car.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, hey, a little bit of a little

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Speaker 3: show too. I just again, I'm really it was very

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Speaker 3: big of you, So you know something to think about.

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Speaker 1: This is something that Eric would would do on a

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Speaker 1: podcast make promises for me. Well, it's the only one

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Speaker 1: of us promised to have a tattoo, and it wasn't me, So.

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Speaker 3: That's that's gonna happen. But I have to stop having

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Speaker 3: panic attacks every time a walk.

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Speaker 1: I understand that it would be a lot. So we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about the brains for a long time, you

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Speaker 1: and I and we'll get into the weekend of activity.

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Speaker 1: The Braves are way to sweep today with a win

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Speaker 1: on Sunday after some ugliness in the middle of the week. Okay,

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Speaker 1: early in the weekend. But I want to go a

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Speaker 1: and I were actually doing podcasts the last time the

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Speaker 1: Braves were bad. Let's just say that when they were

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Speaker 1: now because this season, as we've covered many times, they

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Speaker 1: the middle of a full rebuild when you and I

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Speaker 3: It feels very similar to what was happening last season

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, Jerson bro marketing suspended for eighty games

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those one run losses there was,

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Speaker 3: But it worked out pretty well. Profar has been amazing

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Speaker 3: H The way this came is not necessarily typical, and

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Speaker 3: Just make a couple of key signings, you know, Filton

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Speaker 2: It's like this in any other sport.

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Speaker 3: You lose a key guy in football, you lose your

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't necessarily mean that the team that.

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Speaker 3: The brains don't operate like that. They spend They are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And actually it would have been an interesting thought

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Speaker 1: They weren't in that middle ground where it was like,

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Speaker 1: Alex is never going to do vulge that because it's

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Speaker 1: didn't give me any money. So anyway, we'll come back

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Speaker 1: to I want to ask about the prospect stuff later

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Speaker 1: in the show. We're definitely gonna do that because I

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Speaker 3: Eric, That's what we're gonna I'm a washed up prospect guy.

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You're still You're still watching. You're still watching.

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Speaker 4: I know you.

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Speaker 1: You're not You're not. You can't stay away. But actually,

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Speaker 1: this this week, this weekend, and really the whole week

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Speaker 1: Okay, Eric, let's go back to Friday. It's Sunday evening

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Speaker 1: because there's no way the Braves would have preferred that

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Speaker 1: night to be on a network that a lot of

436
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Speaker 1: Braves fans don't have, literally don't have access to. It

437
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Speaker 1: was just you're you're such a weird thing.

438
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Speaker 3: You're right, And I think that I know for certain

439
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Speaker 3: that the Friday night baseball schedule for Apple TV was

440
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 3: not scheduled like that. That can that came out late

441
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Speaker 3: in the process, right, And so I'm certain that Apple

442
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Speaker 3: TV had like certain like, look, we want a couple

443
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Speaker 3: of marquee games among these Friday night games that we're

444
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Speaker 3: buying from you. What can you give us? And this

445
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 3: was just kind of the compromise that was made. Right now,

446
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Speaker 3: It's not something we have to worry about after this year,

447
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Speaker 3: because no, it's changing.

448
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Speaker 2: But yep, yep, all the.

449
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Speaker 3: TV deal has been renegotiating again exactly how it's gonna

450
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Speaker 3: shake out in terms of like Friday Sunday Night Baseball

451
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Speaker 3: might now be on NBC, but you know, ESPN just

452
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Speaker 3: bought MLB Network or MLB TV and then but but

453
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Speaker 3: Apple is not involved at all, and and Netflix is

454
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Speaker 3: gonna do some of the event games like you know,

455
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Speaker 3: like or there.

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Speaker 1: May Yeah, I mean it was more it was more

457
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Speaker 1: that and the Braves did a good job, I thought,

458
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Speaker 1: blowing it out even more than they usually do on

459
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Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, I agree, but like I did feel

460
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Speaker 1: bad for like I'm sure there are a lot of

461
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Speaker 1: Braves fans that just didn't get to watch like any

462
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Speaker 1: of the things like the parade that happened that first

463
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 1: pitch though any because it was very lightly, if if

464
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Speaker 1: at all, covered down the actual broadcast. It was just

465
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Speaker 1: a game broadcast like, which is their prerogative.

466
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Speaker 3: This is this is gonna sound mean, this is not new.

467
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Speaker 3: As long as local blackout restrictions exist, they are going

468
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Speaker 3: to be people who want to watch the big event,

469
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Speaker 3: the big events, the big games, that can't watch them,

470
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Speaker 3: and that because there's gonna be restrictions placed someboty now

471
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Speaker 3: does it think? Yes, I know that there was a

472
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Speaker 3: lot of people that if they they generally don't watch

473
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Speaker 3: on Apple TV. And maybe you can use a free

474
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Speaker 3: trial to kind of like watch a game and then cancel.

475
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Speaker 2: It and be done with it.

476
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Speaker 3: But I'm I'm I understand the the a game like

477
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Speaker 3: that not getting you know, being put in whether it

478
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Speaker 3: was on Peachtree TV or you know, just whatever you

479
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 3: know or whatever, right, just put it on whatever channel

480
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Speaker 3: that's normal for a brain.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even the normal fan duel would have been fine,

482
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Speaker 1: just not Apple. Yeah, that's probably the worst case scenario.

483
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Speaker 1: If it had been on ESPN, you would have had

484
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Speaker 1: a lot of people to be able to watch it

485
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Speaker 1: in a different way. Apple is like the smallest audience

486
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Speaker 1: you can possibly get for a Braves telecap for a

487
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Speaker 1: local audience, I should say absolutely.

488
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Speaker 3: And there are plenty of fans that were like genuinely

489
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Speaker 3: upset that the news that Bobby Cox was going to

490
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Speaker 3: be there got announced so late, because they would.

491
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Speaker 2: Have been but like, what are you gonna do?

492
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Speaker 3: And like, I'm certain that it was just a health

493
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Speaker 3: a health thing, and I get could have been handled better,

494
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Speaker 3: especially from a media exposure point of Absolutely it could have.

495
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Speaker 3: But I also think that maybe it was a bit

496
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Speaker 3: of a concession to Apple because they paid for these

497
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Speaker 3: you know, paid for these games, and they they're not

498
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Speaker 3: gonna like take the worst. They're not going to take

499
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Speaker 3: the Marlins versus the Royals, every you know, every every

500
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Speaker 3: Friday night series. You have to kind of give a concession,

501
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Speaker 3: and Braves Versus Mets probably seemed like something that enticed

502
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Speaker 3: them to get this deal.

503
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Speaker 1: They have to have something. People just kept asking us,

504
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Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, it's it's got to be.

505
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Speaker 1: There's no wing the bridge to pick that. I think

506
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Speaker 1: we already agree with there. They would not have chosen

507
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Speaker 1: to do that if they had a choice. They didn't

508
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Speaker 1: have a choice on the field. It was a blowout loss.

509
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Speaker 1: H only really one thing to ask you about from

510
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Speaker 1: the game on Friday. Your old friend, our old friend,

511
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Speaker 1: Joey Wentz is has come and gone. He's back now,

512
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Speaker 1: But he had he was a prospect when you were

513
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Speaker 1: covering prospects even more closely than now. He had been

514
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Speaker 1: good with the Brapes. He had had this is this

515
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Speaker 1: was his first really bad outing, like actually bad outing

516
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Speaker 1: with the Braves. He still has a era in the

517
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Speaker 1: you know, mid to high threes FIP of three point

518
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Speaker 1: one and almost forty innings. They jumped a lot after

519
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Speaker 1: that performance. But do you buy the Joey Wentz thing

520
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Speaker 1: as someone who's seen the joy Wentz experience before? Is

521
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Speaker 1: Is he a real thing to say someone that Braves

522
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Speaker 1: fan should like, I think should be around beyond the

523
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Speaker 1: season because he's actually helped them a little bit. But

524
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Speaker 1: he's still kind of a I won't say he's a

525
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Speaker 1: failed prospect, but he didn't really can He didn't come

526
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Speaker 1: to Fruition as a prospect and now he's.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Joey Wentz is a failed prospect.

528
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Speaker 2: Brad Roll in twenty twenty five, we heard it.

529
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Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

530
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Speaker 2: Someone splice that. Figure it out. So the short answer

531
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Speaker 2: is I kind of do. I kind of buy it.

532
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Speaker 3: And it's because whenever you see something like this, like

533
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Speaker 3: what's the tangible difference? And it's not just like his

534
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: fastball has been performing better, right, or he's throwing a

535
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Speaker 3: little bit harder, because that's something that could just be

536
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Speaker 3: like he's backed effort for three weeks and then you

537
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Speaker 3: know he can't do that anymore. What I but what

538
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Speaker 3: has been true with him is that his extension is

539
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Speaker 3: markedly better since he's been with the Braves. Like not

540
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Speaker 3: just like you know, like a point one or something

541
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Speaker 3: like that, Like the extension of all of his pitch

542
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Speaker 3: is very significantly different. And when you have the kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff which is good, it's I wouldn't call it

544
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Speaker 3: like amazing, but when you're dropping it a foot closer

545
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Speaker 3: to a batter, those are the kinds of margins that

546
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Speaker 3: can actually give you something. Now, is he was he

547
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Speaker 3: as good as he was for that like that run

548
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Speaker 3: where he was like the Brave's best pitcher for a while. No,

549
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Speaker 3: but I could see him being like a three and

550
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Speaker 3: a half ur a guy. If his extensions like you know,

551
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Speaker 3: seven foot whatever, it was uh going going forward.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a carrying tool. That's that it just is.

553
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Speaker 3: So if that's if that's the case, then sure, I

554
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Speaker 3: maybe his ceilings like a mid rotation starter, but that'd

555
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Speaker 3: be perfectly fine for the Braves right now. They'd love

556
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Speaker 3: to have a guy like that. Oh so, I mean again,

557
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Speaker 3: I kind of buy it now. Again, it wasn't full

558
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: in the Mets at all, unfortunately, but no, no, not

559
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: the ghost of Eric Ede couldn't do that either. So

560
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Speaker 3: you know, it was just kind of a bad a

561
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Speaker 3: bad night, and ultimately, you know, it was kind of

562
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Speaker 3: a crummy situation, be considering the celebration that was happening.

563
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, like I kind of buy

564
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Speaker 3: in terms of like him being pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I could see it happening.

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Speaker 3: Now whether or not that's gonna stick, and whether the

567
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Speaker 3: extension adjustment is going to stick, whether or not he's

568
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Speaker 3: like he's like it messes up his arm action, maybe

569
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Speaker 3: it's sore. You know, there's a lot of things we

570
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Speaker 3: just don't know because it's like a very recent adjustment,

571
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Speaker 3: but like so far, I mean there's it passes the

572
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Speaker 3: eye test for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's related to something we'll talk about now.

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Speaker 1: When I say something, I mean Joy Winz is related

575
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Speaker 1: because you need a lot of guys and we make

576
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Speaker 1: this point a lot. But if you're a new listener

577
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: or maybe you just haven't heard a say it, you

578
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: need ten, eleven, twelve starting pitchers in your organization, even

579
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Speaker 1: in typical season or more more or more exactly. So

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Speaker 1: that's the tradition to Saturday's game where it was Cali Quantrell,

581
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Speaker 1: who my colleagues ablely covered on the most recent episode

582
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Speaker 1: of the podcast before this one, but he debuted on

583
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Speaker 1: Saturday with the Braves after he was brought in for

584
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Speaker 1: the price of nothing, and I'm on board with just

585
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Speaker 1: taking his man shots. Do you want to This is

586
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: what this is what the season should be about now. Obviously,

587
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: for every Cross Carrasco and Eric Fetti who are both gone,

588
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: you get Joey Wentz and maybe you find something right.

589
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: Calaquantrill at one point was good. He hasn't been great recently.

590
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: He doesn't miss bats. You said that earlier about the

591
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Speaker 1: whole team that isn't even when he was good, he

592
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: wasn't missing bats cal Quantril, but he came in through

593
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: four two thirds left the game with cramping his calves.

594
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 1: But apparently Smith said he's fine, So that's something. What

595
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: do you make of that, because look, he was the

596
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Speaker 1: seventeenth player to start a game for the Braves this year,

597
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: and if that doesn't seem like a crazy number to you,

598
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: it is a crazy number. It is the franchise record

599
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: high for a season. It's still August, so that probably

600
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: will go up, if you had to guess, it might

601
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Speaker 1: will probably go even higher than seventeen. And a part

602
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: of that's that they've been bad and they've had injuries.

603
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: But also it's a reminder again that you just need

604
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Speaker 1: a million guys. In twenty twenty three, they won one

605
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: hundred and four games. They were awesome in twenty twenty three.

606
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: Obviously was the offensive was the reason for that, But

607
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: they were awesome, and they had sixteen guys start in

608
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, So like, you can be good and

609
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Speaker 1: need this many pictures as well, he was anomber one.

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Speaker 1: So Joey wentz, we need more of you, guys, caliquantrall

611
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Speaker 1: any interest at all. Nothing. Maybe I don't know.

612
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Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of guys like Quantrill. And

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Speaker 2: this kind of goes back.

614
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Speaker 3: To even when he was quote unquote good, right, it's

615
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: that guys that don't miss bats, who throw a lot

616
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: of strikes and then just have to hope that they're

617
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: they're carrying skill of getting weak contact will be enough.

618
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: And that that was what made him. That was the

619
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Speaker 3: only difference between the Quantroll then in the Quantrol now

620
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: was just that he got a lot of weak contact.

621
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Speaker 3: That's not happening anymore. And if your a guy who

622
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: lives in the strike zone, who doesn't miss bats, and

623
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Speaker 3: who's in the bottom twenty percent and most like batted

624
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: ball metrics in terms of like hard hard hit percentage,

625
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: AVERAGEXIT velocity, all that stuff, that is.

626
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Speaker 2: Not a recipe for success. Now that said, I'm right

627
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: there with you.

628
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: Just take as many flyers as you want if I

629
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: want this roster to look like the Island of misfit

630
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: toys trying to figure out who can do something for

631
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: this team. Carlos Carrasco probably shouldn't have happened. But at

632
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: the same time, you know he has pitched in the

633
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: big leagues before maybe having that kind of yet that

634
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: that veteran mentroorship would because for some of the young guys, uh,

635
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: Eric Fede again wasn't good, wasn't good this year, but

636
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: worth it was basically free. Now if they're like trying

637
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: to if they're getting any more cute than that, I

638
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: would have some problems signing. You know, free agents who

639
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: are like have been retired for two years or whatever.

640
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: Don't do that, you know. But at the same time,

641
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: like take take these fires. I mean, Videlle Bruhan hasn't.

642
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: Been good for anybody, and then they they claim him

643
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: off waivers and you know, he's had a couple a

644
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: couple of moments here and there, he has been good,

645
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: but he.

646
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: He's done stuff.

647
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: They keep they keep making most they keep trying things

648
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: out and seeing what works and what doesn't. And you

649
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: know that's that that is what they should be taking that.

650
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Speaker 3: Like you said, this is what they should be doing

651
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: right now. It's like, Okay, let's see if are these

652
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: some guys that maybe can help us next year or

653
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: is this like, you know, are we kind of looking

654
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 3: at this.

655
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Speaker 2: The right way?

656
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: These are the kinds of guys that we need to

657
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: be looking at they're doing all that. It's like every

658
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: week there's another waiver claim. And you know, some of

659
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: them are people we've ever we've heard of before, some

660
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: are not. And again it's worth giving a shot, and

661
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: I applaud them for that. But you know, unfortunately, with

662
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: guys who are being sent to the trash heap in

663
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: at the end of August, your pit rate's gonna be

664
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Speaker 3: pretty low.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned it, but the one thing he

666
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really do is walk guys, and he had five walks,

667
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: so he can't walk it. I mean, if he's gonna

668
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: walk five, you're done. And I think he'd right knows

669
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: that about Quantra. But he did have a stretch that

670
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: I pulled this a fifteen start stretch this year without

671
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: any year fifteen starts in a row where he had

672
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: an ERA of three point five to five and a

673
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: fifth of three point sixty six, like that's at grade.

674
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: It was all kind of that's reasonable.

675
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Speaker 1: That's I'm not saying he's going he's probably he's probably

676
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: not good, honestly, but uh, it's a guy that if

677
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: you're trying to eat some innnings and save some arms

678
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: and skip some guys. I mean they've already be running

679
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: out six pmrotations. They push, They pushed Stryder back like

680
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: it's you shouldn't be taxing anybody right now. That should

681
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: be the goal. No tax anybody from now that I

682
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Speaker 1: get it. We'll leave it there. Oh one more not

683
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: from Saturday, and then we'll get to a break and

684
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: move on. The Braves allowed six home runs on Saturday.

685
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: It was only the thirteenth time, this is per Mark Bowman,

686
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: in one hundred and twenty five years or so, that

687
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the Braves allowed that many home runs in a game.

688
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: And so basically like once every ten years they lost

689
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: six home runs. Uh, and that's it's a lot of

690
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of home runs.

691
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: We've seen some pretty big blowout. I'm a little bit

692
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: surprised that numbers is not higher. If I'm just being

693
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: honest about it, I mean.

694
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean home runs are over I mean, yeah, next

695
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: six is a lot, but six sets a lot of

696
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: home runs. And again, I mean, don'tly allowed three home

697
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: runs by himself on Saturday, which is rare for for reliever.

698
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: To a lot of three home runs in an outing

699
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: is rare because usually they're gonna come out of the

700
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: game if they allowed to you know what I mean, Like,

701
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: you don't usually see relievers a lot three home runs,

702
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: particularly particularly good reliever, not not a bad one like

703
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: not like not like Eric comes in to wear it

704
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: and gets.

705
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Speaker 3: I was about to say, snicker will make it, will

706
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: make a guy wear it, and he'll be like, oh,

707
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: I think he'll pitch.

708
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Ic Ericy was was literally not even DFA was released

709
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: after he had to wear it for four innings on Friday,

710
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: So they're not afraid to do that.

711
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: Like, that's the greatest service to Eric that I did

712
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: for the Braves in his short tenure with the Braves.

713
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: So you know, eight some innings.

714
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Speaker 3: Uh, Frankly, if I were released them before the game,

715
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: I would have been fine with that, because he's not

716
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: got it.

717
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: You probably once about it.

718
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: All right, leave that there. We'll have some Sunday thoughts,

719
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Speaker 1: some news and then Eric's prospect musings that are all

720
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Speaker 1: coming up after a word from our purpose.

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722
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723
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724
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725
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726
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727
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728
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729
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735
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Speaker 1: L all right, Eric. Briefly on Sunday was the one

741
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: win of the weekend. Bryce Elder gave up an early

742
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: two run Homer and it felt to me and others like,

743
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: oh man, they're gonna blown out again. This is gonna

744
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: be bad a sweep all those things. And then he

745
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: settled it in very nicely and did not allow another

746
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: run and the rest of the outing and the Braves

747
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: won this game four to three without a single extra

748
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: base hit, eight singles, five walks, all four runs scored

749
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: on two swings on two singles, two a pair of

750
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: two run singles, one from Sean Murphy one from Jerkson Profar.

751
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: That was basically the whole game like it was it.

752
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: If the game had stakes for the Braves, it would

753
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: it would have been like a cooler game to watch

754
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: because it's one of those like little like little things.

755
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: In the end, it's a game. It didn't really matter

756
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: the Braves that much August, but they won and they

757
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: where to sweep. I don't want to swimp on the Mets.

758
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: The Mets. We want the Mets to lose. It is

759
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: what it is.

760
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you come into the series. I think

761
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: the Braids were seven and three against the Mets this season.

762
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: You kind of want to ruin. Look, if you're not

763
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: gonna win the get to the postseason, you're taking the

764
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: get the teams that you hate.

765
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: The most out. But it's what you want to be doing.

766
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: And again you lose too straight and then all of

767
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: a sudden it's about to get the very close to

768
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: getting the season season series. Rather you know, evened up

769
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: and said you now you're what eight and five or

770
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: something like that against them, and the Mets are gonna

771
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: have to look back and go if we didn't play

772
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: the Raids as much as we did, we probably would

773
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: have had, you know, had a chance of winning the division.

774
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Speaker 2: I mean that feels pretty good. No, it's not.

775
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: It's it's not like, you know, it's not as good

776
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: as we actually win, you know, winning the series or

777
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: sweeping him. But at the same time that that felt nice.

778
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: The price Eller experience is getting very tiresome for me,

779
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: just like it seems like every outings of the adventure,

780
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: even when he's good, he has won, his slider is

781
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: his best pitch and its average, and it's just it's

782
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: kind of like, how does he keep getting away with

783
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: this sort of thing?

784
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: He doesn't he doesn't, well.

785
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: Not lightly, he is not. But at the same time,

786
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: like when he was like even in his good stretches,

787
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: you're like, how.

788
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Is this possible? How's this happening? So overall like it was,

789
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: it was a good showing again.

790
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Profar was good again. This has been a very good

791
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: month for him. It's nice see Sean Murphy come up

792
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: and do well, just just have a good game here

793
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: and there. He Ginya gets forgotten about He's that he

794
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: actually hasn't just been, He just hasn't been.

795
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: I wish he got forgotten about Eric. That's not what happens.

796
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: People decide that he stinks, and he doesn't stink.

797
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 2: That's what he does. He doesn't. He's fine.

798
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Speaker 1: I will save my Murphy rant for another day. To

799
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: your point about Profar, great, he's been recently, very quietly.

800
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Speaker 1: I would say Jersey profar And has a one thirty

801
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: three WRC plus for the season. That's like where he

802
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: was last year, and like, I'm not sure if that's

803
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna be where he's gonna live. But I mean his

804
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: slash line is two sixty three, sixty two and four seventy,

805
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: so like an eight thirty something ops. He's got ten

806
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: home runs in what fifty games. Like he's been really good, man,

807
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: like really really good. Defensively not so much, but offensively

808
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: he's been really good. He's taking walks like he always

809
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: does and it looks great.

810
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: I mean taking walks like he did last year.

811
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: Anyway, before that, he wasn't doing it so much, which

812
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: is why I think the Love folks were a little

813
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: bit down on him in.

814
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: Terms of like is this walk rate sustainable? Is the

815
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: zombase percentage sustainable?

816
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: Now, at the same time, you know, getting suspended for

817
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: the first half, you know, I'm only willing to give

818
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: the guy so much credit? Oh sure, yeah, yeah, Like

819
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: not even just in terms of like a moral thing, right,

820
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: it's more of a would he have been this good

821
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: in the second half he didn't have to play if

822
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: he had played in the first half, Right.

823
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: He is fresh and another guys are not, right, that's yeah, yeah.

824
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: And he's going against a lot of guys who are tired,

825
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 3: and he, you know, had a nice little few months

826
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: off there. So but I again, if you're if you

827
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Speaker 3: have him under contract for three years and you know

828
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: PDS or not, you're not gonna They're not gonna let

829
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: you avoid it. They're not gonna let you avoid the deal.

830
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: So if he's gonna be under contract, you bother him

831
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: play well, especially since leftfield's been kind of a problem

832
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: so overall, and he has been really good for Power.

833
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why the Braves have been able

834
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: to like hang around last week or so is because

835
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 3: to what he's doing at the top of the lineup.

836
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: He's driving a lot of runs and you know, causing

837
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: a lot of havoc and set the table for your

838
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: guys behind him. So again, been very good. Need to

839
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: continue that, hopefully going into next season when you know

840
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: the Bids are gonna have full strength, hopefully sign a

841
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: couple of players to kind of fill some roster holes,

842
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: and you know, this team could be really fun. If

843
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: he's playing the whole season, hopefully not suspended again, that'd

844
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: be really bad. And then we go from there.

845
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: At the very least, I know there are some Braves

846
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: fans that are just like out on profar after I

847
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: get I understand that reaction, even if you are that person.

848
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: Him playing well is good because even if you want

849
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: him traded into too Siberia, it's a lot easier to

850
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: trade him. If he is playing like this, he actually

851
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: has trade value if he's hitting. If he didn't hit,

852
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: he would have zero trade value. You'd be stuck with him.

853
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna trade him, but they If

854
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: he does this US this season or even close to this,

855
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: he would probably be able to be traded. Versus if

856
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: he had been terrible when he came back, it would

857
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: have been an albatross that you couldn't move so.

858
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: I mean we saw that happen with Marcelo Zuna, you

859
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: know when and then he all of a sudden like

860
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: was terrible for what two years basically, and you know,

861
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: you couldn't move him.

862
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: He was terrible. You everyone wanted him gone.

863
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: For a lot of different and they and they could

864
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: not and they couldn't move because he was bad. I mean,

865
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: in the end, baseball stuff mattered. Like if you hit people,

866
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: there's a market for you. That's that's what it comes

867
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: down now.

868
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: Now, at the same time, you know, once you started

869
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: hitting again song with the Braves, you know, took any

870
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: sort of moral high road.

871
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: With they did not.

872
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: But you're you are right if you want to be traded,

873
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: Like teams aren't gonna be like, you know what, I'm

874
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: gonna take this guy that's hitting two hundred and got

875
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: suspended for half a year. That's what I want on

876
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: my team. They're not gonna do that.

877
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: So again there's.

878
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: People be mad at him. I get it, But you

879
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: still want him to hit, even if you just wanted

880
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: to get off the team. That's either either way. That's

881
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. Uh, some quick news and

882
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: then we'll get to some prospect stuff. To end the show.

883
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: If you missed it, I'll just leave it here. If

884
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: you missed it earlier in the week, the Boys broke

885
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: down Austin Riley being off the season obviously brutal news there,

886
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: but if you missed that conversation listening to that podcast

887
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: from Thursday, he had surgery and his core. He'll be

888
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: back in the spring. By all accounts. He's not been

889
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: the same guy the last couple of years, even when

890
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: he's been playing. That's also worth keeping in mind. And

891
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: the hope would be he bounces back to a pre

892
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty four level, because that's what you need

893
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: him to be with the contract he has and all

894
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: those things. But obviously the bigger news that he's just

895
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: not going to be there and hopefully it gets out

896
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: the prediction year.

897
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, when when he was pulled and it was said

898
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: it was an abdominal injury, again, I kind of had

899
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: a suspicion, and because we don't see recurrence of abdominal

900
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: injuries unless they're what I mean, maybe you know once

901
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 3: the Bluemen, but you don't see returns of these types

902
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: of uri unless it's like a sports earning type of situation.

903
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: Now the Braves need to take a hard look at

904
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: their return to places into play procedures if they're sending

905
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: a guy who might have had maybe it wasn't a

906
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: full on hernia situation, but if his again, if like

907
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: your muscles are like compromise in some way, you need

908
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: to make sure that that's right before you send me.

909
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: Like all it is is hard, like quick twitch, hard

910
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: torque movements on the baseball field, and you just.

911
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: That I have many questions about uh, the training staff

912
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: positions this.

913
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: This, Oh well there and many there's there's there's even

914
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: been weird stuff happening behind the scenes too, and they

915
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: have not used.

916
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: The word, uh sports hernia with Riley that that that

917
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: that they used. It was a.

918
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Core core core muscle surgery.

919
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so literally went a sports hernea specialist and

920
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: they're not gonna call it. I mean, just call it,

921
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: just call it what it is. And again like maybe

922
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: maybe it was just something that's hard, like this is

923
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: not an easy thing to pick up on a scan,

924
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 3: especially if it's not full like a full on hernia situation.

925
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: But once it happened again, I was like, he's probably

926
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: gonna be out or it's gonna be or we're gonna

927
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: find out. It's like one of those earning is that

928
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: guys can play through until the end of the season,

929
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: then he's gonna need the off season surgery. We've seen

930
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: that a few times. Sometimes this kind of depends on

931
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: the severity. But one as soon as like he was

932
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: out and then like it was just set back and

933
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: he's like, oh he's still it's a hernia.

934
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah can't you can't. You can't let him go.

935
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, no reason to push it at all and

936
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: get get the surgery now, get ready for next year.

937
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: But that's that's that. We briefly mentioned it earlier. Chris

938
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: Sale through four two thirds innings on Saturday with Gwinnette.

939
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: They were on the road, but it is with the

940
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: with the strippers look good. By all accounts, he'll pitch

941
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: it seems like against Philadelphia stits it probably Saturday. You know,

942
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Chris Sale, you can't keep him away. I'll tell you

943
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: that right now. Chris Sale will be on the mound

944
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: if he wants to be on the mount. So uh cool,

945
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean, take it easy, Chris. Just try to try

946
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: to hang in there and be be cool. But uh

947
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: maybe extra rest, I know, he gives. They guess I'll

948
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: be surprised be throwing every fifth day the rest of

949
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: the season. Maybe it's every sixth day or seventh day

950
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: or whatever it's gonna be.

951
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like I mean, Snickers already talked

952
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: about one to go to a six pan rotation for

953
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 3: the rest of the season if he can, if he can,

954
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: And unfortunately that's the Sales can be like the top

955
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: guy that you don't want to like put too much,

956
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: too many miles on going into the season. But again,

957
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: like I want to see Christle back out there too,

958
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, I don't just you know, do

959
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: whatever you can to make sure that there's not gonna

960
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: be a problem.

961
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ramping guys, I mean, it's it's similar to

962
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I know there were there's a lot of coverage of

963
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: Schwallenbach ramping. Not like he's not gonna pitch this year,

964
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: but ramping up to long toss and doing stuff. It's

965
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: getting guys on a back on a program so that

966
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: they can go and have a normal offseason. It's basically

967
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: the goal with all these guys now that are I

968
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: mean Sales going to pitch in games, but Schwelly, there's

969
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: there's some lope they were trying to wrap Upez up.

970
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: He had to shut down again. But all that stuff,

971
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: like I get it. We've all had the debate about

972
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: whether whether shook him back or not. With Sale, it

973
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: was like, if he was just like getting ready to

974
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: pitch a month from now, you just wouldn't do it.

975
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: But if he can pitch on you know, August thirty,

976
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: if like he's he was never gonna not pitch, what

977
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: of this?

978
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: No? And again he that's a kind of a guy

979
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: you want to keep.

980
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 3: Happy too, you know, when you're going into next season,

981
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: and if he wants to play a little bit, then

982
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: you probably give him a chance. But ultimately that's kind

983
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: of that's that's where the kind of the conversation ends

984
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: for me. It's like, you know, as long as luck

985
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: he seems willing to have his workload managed and he

986
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: understands kind of that situation. So if he's as long

987
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: as that's the case and he's not like wanting to

988
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: throw every fifth day or even like throw on short

989
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 3: rest or something strange like that, then she should be fine.

990
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: And pitching staff is of course incredibly decimated, so cover

991
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: that a nauseam on this podcast. One more quick note,

992
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer is going to actually already went on the

993
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: al as of this morning. He actually been pitching really

994
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: well in August. He had a zero point seven to

995
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: nine e RA and his eleven and something innings in August,

996
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: only pitch once in the last week two. I'm not

997
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: sure when this has popped up. Maybe it's recent, maybe

998
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't know, but it's a shoulder inflammation.

999
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Don't love to hear that. Yeah, Bummer's been fine this year,

1000
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: been hurt. Like I have the stat that's funny where

1001
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: chrisy at fangrafts he actually leaves the Braves in reliever

1002
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: war this year. But if you include his his two

1003
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: starts quote unquote that he made, he doesn't anymore. It's

1004
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: only if you do the actual reliever numbers. He like

1005
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: is comfortably leading the Braves in reliever war this year.

1006
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: It's like he's having a really good season. But he's

1007
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: he raised like twelve and his two starts that he

1008
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: made and both times I think, didn't you pitch him?

1009
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Did he have? Did he like just stay in way

1010
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: too long in both starts? If I remember that, right,

1011
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1012
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: Then there is certainly some sniker I need your I

1013
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: need innings from from hell or high water. And again

1014
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: there's like weird stuff that happens with like some of

1015
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: these games, Like we talked about the different number of

1016
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 3: starters that the Braves had, Like they've had multiple games

1017
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: where like they've had starters warm up and then the

1018
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: game gets delayed and then all of a sudden, those

1019
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: guys can't go, and now it's like Nathan Hiles starting

1020
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: for you or whatever, you know what I mean. Like

1021
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: it's there's definitely been some weird stuff like that in

1022
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: games where like, Okay, we burned our ballpen yesterday for

1023
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: whatever reason.

1024
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: So Aaron, you're just gonna now it's two.

1025
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 1: And two thirds innings. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, hopefully I thought,

1026
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: we don't know anything beyond shoulder information. That's scary because

1027
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: he's signed for next year and they need him and

1028
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: all those things. Hopefully it's like, hey, it's late August.

1029
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: If there's anything wrong with you, go on the il

1030
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: more so than actual issue. We don't know yet, So

1031
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: we'll see on that front. This would be a nice

1032
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: transition to prospect talk here before we get out of

1033
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: here Brace fans are maddened by the lack of Hayden

1034
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: Harris being called up to replace Aaron Bummer on the roster. Now,

1035
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: part of that is that Hayden Harris is not on

1036
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the forty men. Uh isn't that right? Yes, he's not.

1037
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: He's not not on the.

1038
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: Forty minutes, so that that's a key factor. But anyway,

1039
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: he's an interesting lefty reliever prospect. I think if it

1040
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: wasn't if it wasn't Bummer, who's left handed, people would

1041
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: be a little bit less crazy about it. But we

1042
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: would hear about people mad at by hand and Hair's

1043
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: off pitching in the majors for two months now, thoughts

1044
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: on that before we go to other prospects. Hayden Harris not.

1045
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Looking, I would have called I would have called him

1046
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: up two months ago when and I would have called

1047
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: up Laura too, because the guys who have been in

1048
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: the Braves bullpen have not been particularly good. If we're

1049
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: just being blunt about it now. At the same time,

1050
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: if you think it's a lost season and you're gonna

1051
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: continue to just claim whoever you can get your hands

1052
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: on on waivers, you know, the forty man roster spots

1053
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: become them that they matter a lot more because you

1054
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: might start having the jettison guys that you don't necessarily

1055
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: want to get rid of.

1056
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: So I get it.

1057
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to start a guy's clock

1058
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: until you have to. Hayden is a little bit of

1059
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: an older guy in terms of prospecting. But at the

1060
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: same time, you know, if you like don't if you

1061
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: can like maybe save a little bit of time, you

1062
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: don't get to get to the arbitration quite as quickly

1063
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: with a guy that.

1064
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: That does make some sense.

1065
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: And ultimately I just think it comes down to the

1066
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: braves just like, don't feel like that this season is

1067
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: worth promoting him right now. Same thing goes with Laura. Now, yeah,

1068
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: I understand because look you see is E r A

1069
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: at Triple A and you're like, why is this guy

1070
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: not in our bullpen?

1071
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: It's it's it's in a zero's by the way, it's

1072
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: sub one for Hayden Harris. Cause you're wondering why people

1073
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: were mad about this. That's probably the reason why.

1074
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not going to be that that low

1075
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: in the major leagues. I'm certainly well.

1076
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: And also when they call up so today, when they

1077
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: when they they released dark Fettie and they put bummer

1078
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: in the il. They recalled wonder swear at Hunter Stratton

1079
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: and that's not exciting for any fan. So it's like

1080
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: that's part of this too. It's like, oh, who are

1081
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: they calling up? And why is it not the guy

1082
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: I want them to call up. We're in that part

1083
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: of the season here. So uh, there's there's Eric Waning

1084
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: on a Haer and Harris. We've not seen that. Now

1085
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I have to ask about prospects. Important question. I don't

1086
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: even know if this is actually I'll let you win

1087
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: on this. Has Hurston Waldrip graduated?

1088
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how many anying scenes, there's a there's

1089
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: a service time consideration and he was on the injured list.

1090
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 3: It kind of gets a little bit tricky at some point,

1091
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: right and I don't know anyings mean, I don't think

1092
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: he's at one hundred and twenty innings though, So no,

1093
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: but so we'll call we'll call him a prospect for

1094
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: right now, prospect perfect, but the adjustment is real. Look,

1095
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: I've loved the splitter forever. The fastball was the problem.

1096
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: Right now, Uh, you know.

1097
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: Talking to Kylie McDaniel and you know, kind of looking

1098
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: at it like he had this fastball geometry problem that

1099
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: was kind of that, you know, like where he released

1100
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: his four steamer versus where he approached the pitcher the

1101
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: hitter and how that performs that those that combination just

1102
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 3: never performs well.

1103
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: And he had to fix that.

1104
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: And there were some attempts to, like some mechanical adjustments,

1105
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: like he maybe get a little bit more over the

1106
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: top and get a different type of run and all

1107
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: this other stuff. And then Sean Murphy's just down there

1108
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: at rehab and it's be like, why don't you just

1109
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: throw me? Just throw your sinker. You know that it

1110
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: would look great with your it would look great with

1111
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: your splitter and with your stuff. And he starts sorrowing

1112
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: a sinker, and all of a sudden, he starts looking

1113
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: like a world beater. He didn't look quite this good

1114
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: in the minor league's either, you know, he had he

1115
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 3: was kind of up and down the minor league where

1116
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: he got caught up. And then he comes up here

1117
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: and he's just piping that sinker in there, and you know,

1118
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: then let the splitter do its work and he's mowing

1119
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: down guys.

1120
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I.

1121
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 3: Again, is he going to be like the next big

1122
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: thing and you know, be a front line starter. Probably not,

1123
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: but he's seen he looks a lot more like a

1124
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: guy who can be a middle of the rotation starter

1125
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: now with swinging miss stuff and a fastball that you're

1126
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: not embarrassed to see you on a big league pitcher.

1127
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: So if you have those two things and then you know,

1128
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: breaking ball, that like can kind of keep keep guys

1129
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: honest and that that that is enough. That is enough

1130
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: to be a good pitch player. And he's been pitching

1131
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: really well.

1132
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been awesome. You know, twenty four sho I

1133
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: got six walks and his four starts this year, and

1134
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: I have I have a feeling, just to protect you

1135
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: a little bit, Eric, when you said middle of rotation starter,

1136
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: people are like, what is it that's a really valuable player?

1137
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: Middle of rotation starters cost twenty million dollars, you know

1138
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, so just back on that.

1139
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: That that that is no people can be mad all

1140
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: they want. The reality is just like in terms of

1141
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: like number one, number two starters, how many of.

1142
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: Those guys actually exist in baseball?

1143
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: I would say around twenty that are like that are

1144
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: like consistently that guy, not like they're their number two

1145
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: on their team, Like if you're thinking about it, and

1146
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: then like and and aces that.

1147
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 2: Thirty two absolutely not there.

1148
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: There's never been an ACE to pitch for the Colorado

1149
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: Rockies since like Getty Nagel, and.

1150
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: That's debatable at best.

1151
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: So again, it's just like that they don't come up

1152
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: this often, and I think that people were like get

1153
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: a little bit too excited over short like small samples

1154
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 3: and they don't really understand what I'm trying to get it.

1155
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: If you get a guy who's like a three like

1156
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: a three e R, a guy who gives you six

1157
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 3: innings almost every time, we'll walk a few guys and

1158
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: but missus bats, you want that out of your top

1159
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: prospect every single time. Because again the other option is,

1160
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: you know, back of rotation starting and you get like,

1161
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: you know, the Bryce Elders of the world, who, like

1162
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, every third start, you know, forget how to

1163
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: pitch and usually have an e R close to five.

1164
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: And that's like kind of your backhand start guys. Mineral

1165
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: rotation guys.

1166
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: If you have all middle of the rotation guys on

1167
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: your on your road, on your rotation, you are in

1168
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 3: a pretty good place.

1169
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Would you like better? Absolute? But you know Chris Sale's

1170
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: coming back and let him do that job.

1171
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree, one hundred percent. I'm gonna even

1172
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: ask you about like, I'm gonna just tee you up

1173
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: and let you go. Anybody you are are excited about.

1174
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: It could be guys that are obviously, it could be

1175
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: the draftees from this year. It could be South Seeing

1176
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: whoever it's gonna be. Do you have a guy? I

1177
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: know you always have a guy too. I'm sure you

1178
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: have a guy that you love. But if you don't

1179
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: have a guy, do you have guys plural that you're

1180
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: excited about in the system right now?

1181
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: I mean Jr.

1182
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: Richie's been pitching really well and I think he's gonna

1183
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 3: be in the road to twenty twenty sixth rotation. If

1184
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: I'm just being honest about this, stuff just looks live

1185
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: coming out of saying. So if like I'm picking my guy,

1186
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: then that's probably it's.

1187
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I think, not like that's not super hot, but it's

1188
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: hot enough.

1189
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it passes the eye test. If you're

1190
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: good enough, you're good enough. I mean Spencer Swallenbach literally

1191
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: just like like basically took his jacket off at Guinnette

1192
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: and they called him up.

1193
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Last year, Jr. Has been pitching really well at Gwinnette

1194
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: and he's, you know, let's look good post injury.

1195
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 3: Maybe they want him see how much you know what

1196
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: Manag's innings a little this year and all this other

1197
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: stuff where you called him up. But mean twenty twenty six,

1198
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: it's fair game. He's gonna have a real shot, especially

1199
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: considering some of the other options that the Braves have,

1200
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: Like Rainaldo might not want to go to the bullpen,

1201
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: but the Braves might have to put him in the bullpen.

1202
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: The deal that should He does not want to, but

1203
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: he does not him out there.

1204
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: He absolutely does not, right, But in terms of like guys, look,

1205
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: the draft class, the early draft class is very interesting

1206
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: to me.

1207
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm not super high on South of scene yet.

1208
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: Five eleven shortstops that don't hit for powers kind of

1209
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: a little bit of a bizarre metric for me, especially

1210
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: since ones that aren't like notably good defensively, just.

1211
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: Kind of a hit till guy.

1212
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: But at the same time, he's really fast and he's

1213
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: toolsy again a little bit concerning. In his first eleven

1214
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 3: at bats in the minor leagues. He struck out ten times.

1215
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: Probably shouldn't do that, but yet are simple tonight, so

1216
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: you know, again like these are good things. Alex Lodice,

1217
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: I like him, I don't love him. But the reason

1218
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: why they make those two picks is because they want

1219
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 3: to try to sign Briggs mackenzie. That's refty from high

1220
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: school away from an LSU commitment, which is not an

1221
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 3: easy thing to do, and he was very highly regarded.

1222
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: This was not the bet that I thought they.

1223
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: Would have made with like a big overslot play like this,

1224
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: though he was not. Briggs McKenzie was not on my

1225
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: radar in that way. At the same time, the stuff's

1226
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: really you know, like we haven't seen him in pro

1227
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: ball yet, so I want to reserve judgment. And I

1228
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: was kind of see what his like fastball looks like,

1229
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: because again, he's not like a like a burner, right,

1230
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: I want to see kind of like how things look.

1231
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: And when you're not like throwing ninety eight, then you

1232
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: know how your pitches play off each other really matters.

1233
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: Since we haven't seen him so against professional hitters, so

1234
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm very curious about him. Diego Tornez, the top international

1235
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: guy from this last year is another guy I really

1236
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: want to kind of get some more information about more

1237
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: some war looks. It doesn't have a home run this year,

1238
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: which is strange because like everyone thought that he was

1239
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: going to grow into this power. He's like six two

1240
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: and one seventy, but at the same time he's hitting

1241
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: two seventy like a four hundred OVP stolen ten bases.

1242
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: By all accounts, the approach and the hits was really good.

1243
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: And if you can figure out those two things and

1244
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: then put twenty pounds of muscle on that guy, then

1245
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: he's a switch hitter that is just going to hit

1246
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: bombs and you know, cause a lot of havoc, so

1247
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: he could be a lot of fun. Those are kind

1248
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: of the guys that I'm looking for right now. You know,

1249
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: other there's more curiosity. This system is a little bit

1250
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: frustrating in terms of like you have a guy like, ooh,

1251
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: this is an interesting hit tool, and then all of

1252
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 3: a sudden he hits one fifty for a month and

1253
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: a half and you just never hear from them again.

1254
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: So but there's there's certainly some guys that are exciting

1255
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: to kind of at least keep an eye on, especially

1256
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: from the draft class because this is it was kind

1257
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: of a fascinating strategy to based on who they went for.

1258
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: Me.

1259
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: Again, I hope South of Scene works out. I'm just

1260
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: a little bit skeptical starting out.

1261
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a split on that of course. And

1262
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: you know I always say, I don't know anything about

1263
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: these guys until they start showing something on the minds,

1264
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: and even then I'm still no less than than you do.

1265
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna be they'd be traded in three weeks if

1266
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: it was up to you.

1267
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: I am I am. I'm generally pro trading prospects other

1268
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: than the special ones. You know, we we were in

1269
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Unison that when Ronnie was coming up, you didn't you

1270
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: don't trade Ronnie. That's that was the one back then.

1271
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: That was was my good to example of the guy.

1272
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: Like we were like, no, if he when he was

1273
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: at Rome, you would have traded him. I know you

1274
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: would have. And team's really tried maybe in Rome. Every

1275
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: game at.

1276
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 3: Rome, there's this five pro scouts that just like lean

1277
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: forward watching everything Ronnie did. Uh, and the Braids were

1278
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: smart enough to trade him, which was good.

1279
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's there's nobody in the system right

1280
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: now that I would not trade that. That would be

1281
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: what I would say.

1282
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: That seems fair.

1283
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm a guy. Oh one more question. He's kind of

1284
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: faded from the discussion now, but it's still a very

1285
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: interesting prospect. And we tried to weigh that flag when

1286
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: he was going down to the miners. Did your point

1287
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: as is twenty years old and it had this weird

1288
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: we'd have to reltigate what happened he went to the

1289
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: majors and was not ready Obviously it is what it is.

1290
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: Still has a fantastic arm, has real stuff. He's twenty.

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Speaker 1: He's I think, looked by all accounts that I've heard

1292
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: and seen pretty good. Anguenette as a twenty year old.

1293
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: Are you a fan? I don't actually don't know how

1294
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: you feel about the your point is as a.

1295
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: Prospect, I like him.

1296
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: It's kind of a weird, like a weird arm slot

1297
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: fastball type situation where it's like kind of weirdly deceptive.

1298
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 3: If he lives in the zone too much, you can

1299
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: get problematic. It was really like, I I understand why

1300
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: it happened, because you know, at the end of the day,

1301
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: people want social media, like you know, laughs and stuff

1302
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 3: like that. But like that, Ditri Fuintez was like became

1303
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: a meme when it was through no fault of his own,

1304
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 3: and like major beat writers were just trashing him for

1305
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 3: no reason. This kid is like twenty years old, got

1306
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: blasted through the minor leagues, was clearly not ready, and

1307
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: like it was weeks after he got sent back down

1308
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: and they're still making fun of this kid.

1309
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I like him. The

1310
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: secondaries I have.

1311
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: Some questions about, but you know, in terms of like

1312
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: that what that how that fastball plays off his other stuff.

1313
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: It's very unique in what kind of deception it provides

1314
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 3: and what kind of tunnel their forces hitters to kind

1315
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 3: of pick up on.

1316
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: But ultimately I do still like him.

1317
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: I want to see kind of how spring plays out

1318
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 3: in terms of how this experience with basically getting beat

1319
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: up the entire time he was in the major leagues

1320
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: and then get made fun of by like the beat

1321
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 3: writers because I don't know, it just seemed like an easy,

1322
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: cheap thing to do.

1323
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 2: If he comes back.

1324
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 3: And he's like he's a bulldog in spring training and

1325
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: he you know, he lights out, then I think he

1326
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: could be very good.

1327
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's so young. I would

1328
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: I was not have dreamed that he was in the

1329
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: major leagues to start the season.

1330
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: It seems it seemed insane that he was by everybody's kid.

1331
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: So I get it. He's another one that one of

1332
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: the seventeen that have started games, and that number will

1333
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: probably grow again. I mean, I think we were talking

1334
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: about it Minci's maybe with maybe with Gore of like

1335
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who the guy was gonna be

1336
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: that might start like maybe Blake Blake Burkholt or something

1337
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: like that, who's a little bit older, more more of

1338
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: a polished guy. And then something it was did hear

1339
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: who's twenty? And it was like, oh, okay, he's the guy.

1340
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: They've decided to fast track and have other majors. So

1341
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe it's gonna be Jr. Richie next year. You've already

1342
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: called a sean on that one. And look, you need

1343
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: to bring a full circle. You need you need ten starters.

1344
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: If he's one, if he's one of your top eight

1345
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: or ten guys, I mean, he's probably got the pitch

1346
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: next year because he's If you're already in triple A,

1347
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: you're kind of what you're one by definition, you're one

1348
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: call being.

1349
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: And not at this point. It's not gonna be a

1350
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 3: little bit of time at triple A, right. I think

1351
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: it's a significant thing, you know, you know, it's again,

1352
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 3: this is a brave team that if they think that

1353
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: they're they're competitive, they're good. They're if you're at trip,

1354
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: if you're a double A or triple A, your a

1355
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: phone call away.

1356
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: We have seen them, Yeah, we have seen them pull

1357
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: up I mean count I mean you mentioned already Schwellenbach.

1358
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Remember how fast Harris came at the end that they

1359
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: were willing to jump you a level even if they

1360
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: want to, uh, if they think you're ready to do that. Uh,

1361
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: not everybody is, but some guys are and it works.

1362
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's a hard thing to pull off, right,

1363
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: especially with the guys so young. And again I hope

1364
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: it did hers case, it works out where he learned

1365
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: from that experience, took something from it and comes back

1366
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: out in chobs because again I root for all my

1367
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: minor league guys. Baseball is really hard. It's just such

1368
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: a like the difference between up. The difference between a

1369
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 3: successful major leader and a guy who gets bounced like

1370
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: in double A is usually like a mile or two

1371
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: miles of par hour and a couple of inches of

1372
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: command and that's not much too too much room with

1373
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: wriggle room to have. So I hope he does well

1374
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: and ultimately, you know this, it was kind of a

1375
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: tough thing to watch, to be sure, but hopefully it

1376
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: works out because I do think that the art talent's there.

1377
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: There you go, well, Eric, I told you at the beginning,

1378
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: I want you to plug everything that you're that you're

1379
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: still doing, because I know you're not. You keep playing

1380
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: your what You're washed up.

1381
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm a washed up I'm a washed up writer. Now.

1382
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: Every six months or so, I send Brad an email.

1383
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: I want to know if I can be on the

1384
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: podcast again. You just kind of I just I just

1385
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: need to make sure that that email address, uh doesn't

1386
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: go inactive.

1387
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: But honestly, no, I'm I'm still at fan side. I'm

1388
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: loving it.

1389
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: I work with a lot of really smart, fun people,

1390
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: a lot of vin ditch talking, chop battery power vibes

1391
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: of you know in the slacker room, a lot of

1392
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: laughs and smart people wanting to drill down and find

1393
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: like the right the right topics to talk about. That's

1394
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: that's kind of That's something that I'm very familiar with,

1395
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: and I can get behind a bunch and I have

1396
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: a lot of fun right working with those guys, even

1397
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: though I do miss you know, I missed my prospect

1398
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: guys at Battery Power and I've missed you. It's nice

1399
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: talking to you over three or four years. But if

1400
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: you want to know the stuff that I write, if

1401
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: you're looking for brave stuff, House Ahankbuilt dot com is

1402
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: where that where that goes. And I'm still running a

1403
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: good bit about the Braves over there. For whatever reason

1404
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: you're into Astro's content or Orioles content, I'm at Bird's

1405
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 3: Watcher and Climbing Talls Hill writing about those teams as

1406
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 3: well and jumping on here and there. You know, being

1407
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 3: a full time MLB writer, we kind of what needs

1408
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 3: to be done gets done.

1409
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: So if you know I.

1410
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 3: Need to write Red Sox stuff or Dodger stuff or whatever,

1411
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: I jump in and do that too. And I'm also

1412
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: doing the podcasting thing on the regular again now on

1413
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: the Baseball Insiders Feed. Every week, myself and Matt Adam

1414
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: Winrib do a prospect show MLB wide where we talk

1415
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: about prospects and you know, talk about the riser and

1416
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: followers and all the news that's going on in the

1417
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 3: minor leagues, and you know, kind of usually taking a

1418
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: unique anglely show. A lot of again, a lot of fun.

1419
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: Still talking about prospect stuff. I try to sneak as

1420
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: May Braves and as I can, but he's a Yankees fan,

1421
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: so that kind of gets a little bit tricky for

1422
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: me sometimes.

1423
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: And you just said you're washed up, and now now

1424
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: you're doing you're doing a weekly podcast Prospects. What are

1425
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: we talking about, Eric, Come on, well you're podcasting. You're right.

1426
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: I am simply describing how I am treated by Brad

1427
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: because he doesn't want me on the show anymore.

1428
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: It's not true.

1429
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: He misspelled my name when he texted me earlier.

1430
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: That's not true.

1431
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: Hey, Eric, with a K.

1432
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: And people gonna think that I'm that I'm slatering you

1433
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: on the show anyway, Well hopefully if people don't, people

1434
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know our dynamic. Eric, This is what we do, Eric,

1435
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Eric and I go back and forth, and this is

1436
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: we have fun doing podcasts. Scott's I don't even know

1437
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: where Scott Scott. I think it was on of the

1438
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: East Coast this weekend. I can't remember what he was doing.

1439
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: He was traveling. I was traveling.

1440
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: He's a traveling guy.

1441
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: We'll have to do with what do a three man

1442
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: episode with with Scott.

1443
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: Get Stephen, get Sean too. I mean, like, I'm pretty

1444
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: sure Sean doesn't remember my name. I'm just gonna that's

1445
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: step I watched. I watched the show after.

1446
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: No too fair.

1447
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: I don't miss I don't miss an episode of this

1448
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: because it cracks me up every time. But by the way,

1449
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: everyone should not miss an episode. And if you haven't,

1450
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: go back and rewatch old episodes. They're hysterical and very insightful.

1451
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: Even if you don't care about what happened that week,

1452
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: you will find things that will make you smarter and

1453
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: better baseball fans for future in the future. Now that said,

1454
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: I watched the episode after and Steven said some nice

1455
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: things about me. You said some mean things, probably, uh

1456
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I did.

1457
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: No, it was it was cool. It was cool seeing

1458
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: Stephen again. I again, I miss all. I miss all

1459
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: those guys. I really do. We work together for a

1460
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: long time.

1461
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: I kind of when you look back and think about it,

1462
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: like for for very little other than just our own enjoyment.

1463
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 3: Too so like, yes, and we did it for a

1464
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 3: long time. And I'm proud of you and Stephen and

1465
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Sean and Scott for building this thing. Uh gone with

1466
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: the hammer territory. Uh, you know, with the foul territory.

1467
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: Guys.

1468
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: I love kind of what they do too. It seems

1469
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: like a lot of a really fun thing that you're

1470
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 3: building here, and I couldn't be more proud to know you.

1471
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sir. I appreciate you doing this. As always,

1472
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: follow Eric. He's not on Twitter anymore, but you can

1473
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: follow all his working fans out you'll find him. It's

1474
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: fine podcasts. You're better off without Twitter. I should quit

1475
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: to It's fine, I should. I should just stop.

1476
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: It is a miserable exist.

1477
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: Every once in a while I'll do a Q and

1478
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: a over on Blue Sky because I can still log

1479
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: into that versus my Twitter account, which like there's literally

1480
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. I guess every two months, I try

1481
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: and they get the same I go through the same

1482
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: customer service emails. I still can't get it back, so

1483
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 3: I guess they say I have access to it, which

1484
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 3: is interesting because I haven't posted three years. So yeah,

1485
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: that's kind of what's going on with on it happens.

1486
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: Well, Thank you, sir, I appreciate this E everybody else.

1487
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Please subscribe to Hammer Territory. Eric just give a great

1488
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: organic plug, which I didn't even ask him to do.

1489
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying all about Eric. Please subscribe to

1490
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: this podcast anywhere you find podcasts, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, et cetera.

1491
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: Follow us on everywhere Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, course we're still

1492
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: there at Hammer Territory as well. Tell your friends and

1493
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: we'll see everybody next time.

1494
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Bye,