1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the second hour of 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Buck here in NYC, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: my man Clay Travis out of Nashville, Tennessee. Yes, January 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: sixth anniversary day today, Democrats are obsessed with it. They're 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: exaggerating at kamala Is, comparing it to nine to eleven 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and Pearl Harbor madness. I want to bring on somebody 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: who both has an important perspective on that day as 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: well as the aftermath and what has been done to 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: the jan sixth defendants out there. Julie Kelly is with 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: US now senior contributor to American Greatness and author of 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: January six How Democrats are using the Capital Protest to 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: launch a domestic war on terror against the political right, 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: which is released this week. Julie, thanks so much, Hey, 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Buck and Clay, thanks for having me on. So we 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: want to want to get into it because I know 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: I've talked to you before, Julie, about what's been done 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to just irrespective of the hyperbole the craziness of how 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats frame this issue, say it's a coup, say 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: it's an insurrection. The jan six defendants, what's been done 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: to them is appalling and just completely unbecoming of America. 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: But just what is your view today from thirty thousand 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: feet so to speak, as we're being told that this 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: goes down in infamy along the lines of Pearl Harbor 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: and nine to eleven. While I think it speaks to 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: the argument that I make in my book, and that 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: is that Democrats are using this for our disturbance a 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: year ago that in some instances turned violent to launch 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: this domestic war on tear against the political right. And 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: you see this not only in the Justice Department's prosecution 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: now of more than seven hundred Americans and counting, but 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: you certainly see it with the January sixth Select Committee, 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: where they are targeting not just the president and Republican lawmakers, 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: but anyone conservative influencer, anyone in that ecosystem for Fox 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: News to podcasters or people like Steve Bannon. So this 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: is an orchestrated effort to criminalize political dissent, to criminalize 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: political protests, and certainly more importantly, to shut down any 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: effort to shore up election laws in several states and 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: tie anyone who wants to strengthen our election system and 40 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: what we saw fall apart in twenty twenty, anyone who 41 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: wants to tighten that up for the next election is 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: therefore an insurrectionist. So do you see that constantly? Those 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: two things tied together, And that's really what the underlying 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: motivation is here, Julie. When Buck and Eye watched this 45 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: on January sixth, we knew, both of us sending out tweets, 46 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: this is going to be something despite the entire sum 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: of riots, that Democrats are going to try to put 48 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: up on Republicans for as long as they possibly can. 49 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: When you were watching January sixth happen, what were your 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: thoughts and did you already look ahead to what the 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: future impact of this incident was going to be then 52 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: or has it surprised you the legacy of January sixth 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: So far it looked totally sketchy to me from the beginning. 54 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I did not share a lot of people's hand ringing 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: about what they were seeing. None of it made sense 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: because no other rally or political event with Trump supporters 57 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: had turned violent like this, So I think my antenna 58 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: was up right away. I did not share that you 59 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: know this can't happen. This is a horrible dark day 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: in our democracy. It seemed to me like it was 61 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: sort of stage to achieve a political goals. It's important 62 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: to note that the Democrats are they who wanted to 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: shut down what was happening in Congress that day, which 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: was a coordination between senators and Republican Republican senators and 65 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: congressmen who were disputing the results in six disputed states, 66 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: and they were wanting to delay the certification call for 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: this ten day audit that looked like it actually was 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: going to happen. So Democrats wanted the process shutdown. And 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: of course, after this protest riot, whatever you want to 70 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: call it, that's exactly what happened. You had senators back 71 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: off of their calls for audits to look at these 72 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: contested states, and so of course the results were certified 73 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: three o'clock the next morning. And so that's sort of 74 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: where my reporting led me. What it looks like now 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: a year later, more and more evidence that this was 76 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: an inside job conducted by the government, DC Police, Capitol Police, 77 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: and certainly the FBI and dj which seems to be 78 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: confirmed in the Newsweek article that was published on Monday, 79 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: we're speaking of Julie Kelly, senior contributor to American Greatness 80 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: and author of January sixth, how Democrats are using the 81 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Capital protest to launch a domestic war on terror against 82 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: the political right. Julie, the jan six defendants, You've been 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: trying to raise their plight and the just abject abuse 84 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: they've been subjected to in pre trial detention. Deserver, this 85 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: is not people that have been convicted. This is people 86 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: or this has been people being held without trial for 87 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: months on end. What can you tell us about what 88 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: they've been subjected to and what do people need to 89 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: know about how really what seems like political prisoners are 90 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: treated in America? Right we do have a political prison, 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: and that's that hyperbole. There's a political prison in the 92 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: shadow of the Capital Building in Washington, DC that is 93 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: housed dozens of political protesters who dare to reject the 94 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: outcome of the twenty twenty election. Right now, I think 95 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: there are four years fifty men there. We have a 96 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: total of eighty three men who are being held under 97 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: pre trial detention orders. Now, this is a request made 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: by Joe Biden's Justice Department that these people are a 99 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: threat to society because they were involved in the alleged 100 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: quote unquote insurrection. The overwhelming majority have no criminal record. 101 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Several are charged with no violent crime, but yet they 102 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: are being denied bailed by federal judges and DC District Court. 103 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: Trump appointees all the way down to Reagan appointees denying 104 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: them bail while their trials are delayed until the middle 105 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of next year. Some of these men don't even have 106 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a trial date yet because DJ keeps delaying discovery and 107 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: trial dates. So they are political prisoners, there's no question 108 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: about it, and treated far differently than you see the 109 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: activists and writers from the sum of twenty twenty. Julie, 110 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. And I'm a lawyer. So I 111 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: sit here and I'm thinking about this. I mean, many 112 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: of these you said eighty three of these prisoners, right, 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: many of them are potentially going to end up charged 114 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: with crimes that could lead to less jail time than 115 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: the time that they're being held for. Right now, this 116 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: is insane, Like, why is this not in many ways 117 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: a bigger story. And again I've I've paid attention to 118 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: this a little bit, but I had no idea that 119 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: number was as high as eighty three. That's right, it's 120 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: eighty three. Now it's been up to one hundred. Some 121 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: of them have been released. Some of them, of course, 122 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: are taking plee deals because they are desperate to get 123 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: out of prison and go back home and try to 124 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: rebuild their lives and take care of their families. So 125 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: that's really what this is about, Clay. This is not 126 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: because you know this as a lawyer. They're a flight 127 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: risk or they're a danger to their community because their 128 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: repeat offenders. This is political punishment, and so this is 129 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: what they are now using too as a cudgel to 130 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: try to force ple deals out of some of the 131 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: more off As a non violent defendant, certainly, but let's 132 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: say one of them fleads guilty to obstruction of an 133 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: official proceeding. This is the main felony that's been applied 134 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: to over two hundred defendants. Well, one man what pleaded guilty, 135 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: He got fifteen months in prison. You are going to 136 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: have someone like at Tim Hale, who I know who 137 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I won't get into the details of his case. He's 138 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: charged with no violent crime. If he takes a plea 139 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: deal and accepts the obstruction of an official proceeding, he 140 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: will have been in jail for the same amount of 141 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: time as the other past sentences before he even had 142 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: a chance to defend himself. So they're using this to 143 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: punish people and of course to try to pry plea 144 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: deals out of the people who were charged early on. 145 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: We're talking Jane, where the Sevary March of last year, Julie, 146 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: who are these men's attorneys? And how high and again 147 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: like we need to get to buck these some of 148 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: these attorneys on of these of these people, because these 149 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: stories I think need to be told on as big 150 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: of a scale as we can. But are they having 151 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: trouble getting high end the legal representation because of the 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: political crimes that they are accused of, which we have 153 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: seen happen to a large extent all the way up 154 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: to the President of the United States at times. I mean, 155 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: we're big law firms are saying, hey, we won't fight, 156 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: we won't represent you. What are you seeing in terms 157 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: of the quality of legal representation that they're able to obtain, 158 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: much of which I would imagine has to be pro 159 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: bono because many of these many of these people are 160 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: not wealthy enough to be able to afford high level 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: legal representation. Well that is a great point. Most of them, 162 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: and of course almost all of them, as I said, 163 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: have no criminal record. They're not familiar, they've never been 164 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: charged with a crime before. So a lot of them 165 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: saw early on I can't afford six figures for a 166 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: DC criminal attorney, so a lot of them either have 167 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: court appointed or public defenders. In some of these public defenders, 168 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: as you can imagine, their political views are one hundred 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: and eighty degrees different. No doubt what they're clients are. 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: They have made that clear to them. Some cases you 171 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,119 Speaker 1: have courter pointed attorneys who have put these Trump supporters 172 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: through reprogramming, forcing them to read books and watch movies 173 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: that portray America as systemically racist and anti semitic. So 174 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I have recording on that in my book. But the 175 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: early on they had to have these public defenders, and 176 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: even as some criminal defense attorney started to step up, 177 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: there was no money. There's no apparatus set on the 178 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: right to help anyone who was ensnared in this investigation. 179 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: But there has been something set up, the Patriot Freedom Project, 180 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: that has raised several hundred thousand dollars so far to 181 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: help hire good criminal defense attorneys out of DC. In 182 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: New York to help represent some of these clients. So 183 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: things are looking a little bit better for them. But 184 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: early on, the early several months of this, these people 185 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: were completely subjected, but they were just really victims of this. 186 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Can you say that one more time where people can 187 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: donate money for the people who may need attorneys? What's 188 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: that the patriot to say one more time? Patriot Freedom 189 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: Project dot com. Julie Kelly, senior contributor to American Greatness. 190 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: Her book January six, How Democrats are using the Capitol 191 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Protest to launch a domestic war on terror against the 192 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: political right, is out this week. Julie, thank you for 193 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: your work on this and for being here with us 194 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: on the Claim Buck Show. Thank you so much for 195 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: having me on. I really appreciate it. The easiest question 196 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: to answer of your day, did you wake up in 197 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: pain today? 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Travis buck Sexton 224 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: show Buck, I'm not gonna lie. You know. Every now 225 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: and then we have a guest and they say something 226 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: that really rocks me. And the fact that according to 227 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: our guest, eighty three people are still being held and 228 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: denied bail charged not even necessarily with crimes yet, but 229 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: many of the people who are pleading guilty to these 230 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: charges are getting reduced jail sentences, limited jail sentences. I 231 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: don't think there's very many people that are serving significant 232 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: jail time for what, let's be honest, buy in large, 233 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: is not a very significant crime in the grand scheme 234 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: of things. I had Julian months and months ago on 235 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Hold the Line on the first TV, a TV show 236 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: that I do, and we talked about this issue and Clay, 237 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: if people read what the judge in it, I mean, 238 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: I haven't read all of the different orders, but in 239 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: one of these cases where someone was being held. Remember, everybody, 240 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: this is pre trial. Clay's a lawyer. We were talking 241 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: about this in the break. Our whole system is set 242 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: up so that this can't happen to you, right, You 243 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: can't just be held indefinitely on the whim of the state. 244 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: This is why we not only have trial by jury, 245 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: but it's supposed to be a speedy a reasonable speed 246 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: of trial. You're also supposed to be released pending hearing 247 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: unless there's a reason of either public safety or you're 248 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: a serious flight risk. Right. And this is why they 249 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: have bail set the way they do. They've been denied bail. 250 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: And the reason that one of the judge gave one 251 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: of the judges gave was well, if we let them loose, 252 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: this person could have another insurrection to overthrow the government. 253 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: As if these people don't realize what a disastrous idea 254 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: it was to do anything that day involving either attacking 255 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: cops or going into the building or whatever I mean, 256 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: As if they haven't suffered enough, essentially to realize that 257 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: they would never their lives or destroyed already Clay Right, 258 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: So a judge won't let them out because they might 259 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: try to have another selfie session in the rotunda. Give 260 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: me a break buck. And this hits me as a lawyer, 261 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: because our job as lawyers is oftentimes to defend people 262 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: who've been accused of heinous crimes. I have, as a 263 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney defended murderers. I have defended people accused 264 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: of dealing drugs, of beating their domestic assault. That doesn't 265 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: mean that I agree with what those charges are or 266 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: what those people are accused of doing. That is the 267 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: job of an attorney to zealously advocate for your client. 268 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do right now. 269 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna donate ten thousand dollars to this defense fund 270 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: that she just gave out Julie Kelly. I'm gonna donate 271 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to Patriot Freedom Project dot com. Not 272 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: because and I'm gonna say this because people are going 273 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: to cover it and they're gonna be like, oh Klake Ravis. No. 274 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Not because I'm saying these people didn't do anything wrong, 275 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: but because I believe it is fundamentally Unamerican to hold 276 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: people without giving them the opportunity to be released on bail, 277 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: without charges being filed against them, and I believe that 278 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: they deserve as good of legal representation as they can 279 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: possibly get. So today I donate money to all different 280 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: sorts of causes. Usually I don't make it public, but 281 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: I was so impressed by what Julie Kelly was telling 282 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: us on the last segment that as a lawyer who 283 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: is currently licensed in multiple jurisdictions in the United States. 284 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: I believe that these people are entitled to the best 285 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: legal representation that they can get. And I don't think 286 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: it's right, whether you're a Republican, Democrat, independent, to put 287 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: people in jail for this long based on politics, when 288 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't appear to me that these people are a 289 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: clear and present threat to American democracy, and so I 290 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: believe they deserve the best legal representation they can get. 291 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: They can get lawyers who will advocate for them zealously 292 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: as lawyers should be doing. And I'm saying this on 293 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: behalf of somebody who has represented people who have done 294 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: far worse than what these people are charged with. Where's 295 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the ACLU on the great questions? Aren't there these whole 296 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: organizations that exist to prevent this kind of politicized abuse 297 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: within the justice system, really human rights abuse by our 298 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: own justice system. Remember, not only are they being held folks, 299 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: for those wondering about this, they're abused by guards who 300 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: don't share their political ideology. They're often held in solitary 301 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: confinement as if they're they're in administrative segregation. I believe 302 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: they call it in the DC system. So this is 303 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: absolutely meant to be punitive and to send a message 304 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: you stand against this regime. You will not just be punished, 305 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: you will be crushed beyond whatever the actual statutes are 306 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: involved in your transgression. One of the things we talked 307 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: about a lot on the show, and it comes to gold, 308 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: is protection. Protection is important for your portfolio, particularly your 309 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: savings account and your IRA. Investing a portion of your 310 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: savings and your IRA with real gold is the best 311 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: protection you can apply to maintaining the value of your 312 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: savings account. Look, it's a unique experience. When you get 313 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: that gold, you store it away safely, and you can 314 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: have it delivered right to your home like I did 315 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: with the Oxford Gold Group. That's why I made my 316 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: first ever gold purchase with and now continue to build 317 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: my reserves with the Oxford Gold Group. It's not complicated. 318 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: They'll send real gold right to your home. Call the 319 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: Oxford Gold Group today, They'll explain everything to you eight 320 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: three three four zero four gold and learn how you 321 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: can have real gold in your IRA and deliver to 322 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: your door. That's the Oxford Gold Group at eight three 323 00:18:52,240 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: three four zero four. G O L. D Well come 324 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: back into the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We'll 325 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: take some calls and the latter part of this hour 326 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: at eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. 327 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: And you know, I am glad that we are raising 328 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: awareness to our a phrase from the left about the 329 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: plight of the jan six defendants, and we will continue 330 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: to speak about it and have more people on to 331 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: discuss how could this be happening in America today? This 332 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: is an ongoing thing. This isn't about memorializing something could 333 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: happened in the past. These are people who are still 334 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: being held and abused, their rights trampled on, regardless of 335 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: what you think of their actions that day. We have 336 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: a system that is built on the presumption of innocence, 337 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: on the actual representation of a person's rights in the 338 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: judicial process, and it is being absolutely made a mockery 339 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: of right now by the left and the Democrats punishing 340 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: their political opponents through that system. So we'll come back 341 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: to that. But I guess on the COVID front things 342 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: things could be worse. I'd never like to frame things 343 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: that way because you could always say that, but you know, 344 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: we could be living in the dystopia down under that 345 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: is Australia these days. It is abject lunacy that's happening there. 346 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: And to keep in mind, they're people who have been 347 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: sharing this recently. There are old headlines and tweets from 348 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: the establishment legacy media about how Australia use science to 349 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: crush COVID and there's no COVID in Australia because they 350 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: listen to science. Well, I've got like all time high 351 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: case load and they've had the most extreme measures of 352 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: any place, I mean outside of China, and we don't 353 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: really know the full extent of what's gone on in China, 354 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: but of any open society where you actually have some 355 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: transparency about what the government policies may be, Australia really 356 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: seems to have been I don't know, maybe New Zealand's 357 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: right alongside it, but Australia has taken a super heavy 358 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: hand that approach. Here is the Northern Territory of Australia 359 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Chief Minister, just to give your sense of where things 360 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: could go here in this COVID era, saying that basically, 361 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: if you're aunt remembered, this is not if you're COVID positive. 362 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: If you are unvaccinated, you are not allowed to leave 363 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: your home except to feed yourself. So you don't starve. 364 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I guess right. There are only three reasons to leave 365 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: the home now, not five. Work is not a reason 366 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: to leave the home for the unvaccinated. The Chief Health 367 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: Officer has also determined that restriction of movement is critical 368 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: right now, and that one hour of exercise for the 369 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: next four days is not essential. Remember, these restrictions only 370 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: apply those who are not fully vaccinated. Basically clay. If 371 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: you are not fully vaccinated, which remember is a moving 372 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: target and now unboosted is effectively going to become not 373 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. The only reason you're allowed to leave You're 374 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: not allowed to leave your home to walk alone outside. 375 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: According to this Australia's equivalent of like a state in Australia, right, 376 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: According to this governor, in a sense, the only reason 377 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to leave your home that's acceptable is to buy food 378 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: or go I guess to a doctor's appointment. If you're unvaccinated. 379 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: They're telling healthy people that can't leave their houses. Yeah, 380 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: and also this is just a blame factory. Make no 381 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: mistake about what's going on here. COVID cases are skyrocketing. 382 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: The argument that the reason why COVID was still here 383 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: was because everyone had not gotten vaccinated. That's one hundred 384 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: percent a why okay, and I come from the world 385 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: of sports, and you can use the sports leagues as 386 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: a perfect representation of that. NHL hundred percent virtually vaccinated, 387 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: NFL right at ninety five percent vaccinated, NBA ninety seven 388 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: percent vaccinated. Buck, All three of those sports leagues are 389 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: setting all time highs when it comes to COVID positivity rates. 390 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: So they represent a strong case clearly because they're young 391 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: and healthy, probably even less likely to get COVID than 392 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: your average person would be. They are still having record 393 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: high rates of COVID, which proves that you can't vaccinate 394 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: your way out of it. And to your point about 395 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: the fact that we are redefining constantly what fully vaccinated. 396 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: Is the NC double A, which is the organization that 397 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: manages college athletics in this country. I just got texted 398 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: by a coach during the course of our show saying, Hey, 399 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: the NC double A has put out their new rules 400 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: and regulations and you are required now to be boostered 401 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: in addition to your fully vaccination status. College kids who 402 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: are under no risk they like you, just like you 403 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: were saying, Buck, in order to be considered fully vaccinated, 404 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: now you have to be boostered as well in order 405 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: to be a fully vaccinated athlete for purposes of NC 406 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: double A rules. And the spite with which the Democrat apparatus, 407 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: the Biden regime, the legacy media has been referring to, 408 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and the spite with which they have treated those who 409 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: have been unvaccinated, is going to soon go toward the 410 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: unboostered as well. I mean, I think that's very clear, 411 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: because the alternative is to accept that they're not as 412 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: smart as they thought they are. They can't control this virus, 413 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: their overreach was unjustified, and maybe they should just stop 414 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: being crazy. They don't want to stop being crazy. They 415 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: want to stay in power. They want to keep using this. 416 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: Here is an NYU medical ethics professor who was on 417 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: TV who is straight up saying the quiet part out 418 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: loud here, and I get increasingly it's not even the 419 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: quiet part. This is what's being said by people who 420 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: take the fauciite point of view, which is make the unvaccinated, 421 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: not just make their lives difficult, make them miserable, put 422 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: them at greater risk, punish them, hurt them, make them 423 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: feel the pain. Here he is when you're fighting a 424 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: war you need all hands on deck. I don't want 425 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: to reject those who still haven't done the right thing. 426 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: I'll condemn them, I'll shame them, I'll blame them, but 427 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to exclude them. They've got to come around. 428 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: We can't win this war. We're gonna be talking about 429 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: COVID this time next year if we don't get more 430 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: people to do the right thing. So we can't write 431 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: them off. We can penalize them more. We can say 432 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: we've got to pay more on your hospital bill if 433 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: you weren't vaccinated. You can't get life insurance or disability 434 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: insurance at affordable rates if you aren't vaccinated. Those companies 435 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: should not treat us as equals in terms of what 436 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: the financial burdens are that that disease imposes. So cut 437 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: off your life insurance. So if you're unvaccinated and you 438 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: die in a car accident because you can't afford your 439 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: life insurance anymore, now your families destitute. This is what 440 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: these psychopaths are saying on TV. Oh, there's a medical 441 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: ethics professor, Clay. This is the opposite of medical ethics. 442 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: That's true, But we talked about earlier in the show 443 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of people sixty five and up have 444 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: already gotten at least one COVID shot. Eighty six percent 445 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: of people who are eighteen and up have already gotten 446 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: at least one COVID shot. That's almost everyone in the 447 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: entire country, and they're going to try. And by the way, 448 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: of the fourteen percent who haven't, I would be one 449 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: of those people, right, I've already had COVID. So what 450 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: percentage of the people that he's claiming are deserving of 451 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: infinitely higher rates of all this different life insurance and 452 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: everything else that you might want to buy, are actually 453 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: not in any reasonable danger. Look, I'm gonna die. I 454 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: hate to break it to you. There's probably a lot 455 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: of people out there that are like, yes, I can't 456 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: wait for that to happen, But the chances of it 457 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: being from COVID, statistically are virtually zero. Because I've already 458 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: recovered from COVID. I'm far more likely to get in 459 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: my car and die driving to the grocery store. Right. So, 460 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: this idea of not being able to rationalize actual risk 461 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: underwise all of this insane ideation that's out there. There's 462 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: this control desire as well that's at the heart of 463 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: all this, because shouldn't we be at a point, based 464 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: on the Fauciite logic here where if you want to 465 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: be in that five percent of sixty five and over 466 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: that aren't going to get vaccinated, that's on you. And 467 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: to be very clear, Clay and I, not that we're doctors, 468 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: both strongly advise if you are sixty five and up 469 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: to please give yourself that that additional protection of getting vaccinated. 470 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: The numbers support that very clearly. I would never mandate anybody, 471 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: never tell anybody get fired or they can't get an 472 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: apartment or insurance, of course, but we're asking you if 473 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: you're at that age. But we should be at a 474 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: point now where the left would say, all right, look, 475 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: if you want to take that risk, that's on you. Yes. 476 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: The problem is they like the power they have from 477 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: all of this. People that become on the left culturally 478 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: accustomed to living with this. Now, this is the way 479 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: that they think of the world. I have to mask up, 480 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I have to be scared all the time, and they're 481 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: not truly feeling safe even when they themselves are vaccinated, 482 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: because they've figured out it does not stop the spread. 483 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: But then you'd say shouldn't that make them not care 484 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: if somebody else gets vaccinated or not, And then of 485 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: course it's like the whole thing melts down, the system overheats, 486 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: and the brain stops functioning, which is essentially where we are. 487 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: Here's the easy question for everybody out there and ask 488 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: this yesterday on Twitter. Name me a vaccine that's been 489 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: considered a success that requires up to four shots in 490 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: the first year and doesn't keep you from getting or 491 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: spreading the virus that you got vaccinated in Medical Heavyweight 492 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Slavitt coming at you on Twitter on that one. I 493 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: saw He's like, he's like, let's go, Travis, And then 494 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: I could almost hear the knuckle cracking from your end 495 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: on Twitter. You're like, yeah, let's go, let's throw down. 496 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on the show, love to 497 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: have doctor Fauci on the show, because I think they 498 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: would get a visor rated with actual factual date. I 499 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: just maybe there's one out there. Maybe there's a wildly 500 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: successful vaccine that required you to get up to four 501 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: shots in a year and still allowed you to get 502 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: and spread the virus that you got the vaccine for. 503 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm just not aware of one. Maybe I could interview 504 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Fauci as Fauci and see what he thinks. 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Search out my name Clay Travis. 533 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: You can search out Buck Sexton really if you just 534 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: type in Clay or Buck on Google, Play, on iTunes, 535 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: on Spotify, on Stitcher. We're available everywhere. We love all 536 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: of our affiliates out there. Setting up the next hour. 537 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of fun continuing to break 538 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: down Kamala Harris and her one of the dumbest history 539 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: analogies of all time. I think it's fair to say 540 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: comparing January sixth to nine to eleven and to Pearl Harbor, 541 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I think we got a bunch of callers who went 542 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: to weigh in on a variety of different topics. Who 543 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: should we go to first, Buck Aubrey in Texas, the 544 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: Great state of What's up? Audrey Aubrey, Hey, guys, I 545 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: just wanted to let you know why they've got these 546 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: so called rioters still in jail without due processes Under 547 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: the Patriot Act. If you're classified as a terrorist, then 548 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: they can strip your rights and you no longer have 549 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: rights as an American. That's another reason they're wanting to 550 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: classify these parents at these PTO meetings, or not the PTO, 551 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: but at the school board meetings as terrorists so that 552 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: they don't have rights. They don't like what they're saying 553 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: to them, so they classify them as terrorists and they 554 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: can just arrest them and get them to leave us alone. Yeah. Look, 555 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: the reality is here. And I'm not claiming to be 556 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: a legal expert in this particular this particular subject, but 557 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: buck the idea that we are going to have, according 558 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: to our guests, Julie Kelly, eighty three people being held 559 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: basically without due process for over a year, when they 560 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: are going to be charged with relatively insignificant charges, right, 561 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: that are not going to have them in jail for 562 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: years and years. Let maybe be clear, sometimes when you 563 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: are facing massive jail time. Right, if you are accused 564 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: of murder and you represent a flight risk, I understand 565 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: why you are not allowed to be out on bail. 566 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: But these people one don't have substantial assets too. They're 567 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: not going to try to overthrow the United States government. 568 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: They weren't even doing that in the first and they're 569 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: not even facing in some case, they're yet time. So 570 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna hold people for over a year and then 571 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: if they plead guilty, they might go to prison for 572 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: six months. Think about this, folks. I mean, I know 573 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: they'll say you'll get credit for time served or whatever, 574 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: but the point is this is completely unjust. It's obvious, 575 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: and not enough people know about it. Aubrey, thanks for 576 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Clina from Texas. McClay even Republicans on this one. You know, Look, 577 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: we need to be able to separate out the principle 578 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: of the actual system we have and the rights of 579 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the accused. Whatever their politics, whatever their actions, there are 580 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: rights of the accused there As I mentioned, the ACLU, 581 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: which is a joke used to do this A cl 582 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: use a great example. They fought for people to be 583 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: able to do a neo Nazi Mott march in Skokie, Illinois. 584 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: That wasn't because they were neo Nazis. It was because 585 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: they supported the First Amendment. And what we've lost, what 586 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: we've lost is people who stand for principle over the 587 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: particular politics of the moment. Think of all of the 588 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: time spent, particularly the Bush administration, on the treatment of 589 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: actual terrorists who wanted to run planes into our buildings. 590 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: There were libs, there were leftists who were saying, oh, 591 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: we're being way too hard, you know, Karlege Shaik Muhammad 592 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: is being you know. Oh, and then there was there 593 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: were a couple of people that were waterboarded, and it 594 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: was torture. It was horrible. They're holding people in solitary confin, 595 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: denying them their due process rights for months and months 596 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: on end for parading without a license inside a government building. Okay, 597 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: they weren't trying to get a dirty bomb to kill 598 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: a half a million Americans, But that's the way they 599 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: think they can get away with treating them because the 600 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: left is ruthless, you almost. I mean, it's impressive. It's evil, 601 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: but it's impressive. Ted in Minnesota retired FBI age in 602 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: a twenty plus years. What's up? Ted? Yeah, I have 603 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: a comment basically on these January sixth ascendments. It's really 604 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: and I'm almost looking for your legal experience on this. 605 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: You know, from my experience in prosecutor and convicting over 606 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: three hundred people from various criminal offenses, you know, whenever, 607 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: First of all, we were never allowed a continuance on 608 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: the prosecution side. So sorry, you're a prosecutor. You're a prosecutor, 609 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: career prosecutor, is what you're telling us. No, I was 610 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: an FBI agent, but I work okay with the prosecutors 611 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: were up. It's for all proceedings right up there with 612 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: the yes with the prosecutor. And the thing is is 613 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: we weren't allowed continuances. If we didn't give discovery in 614 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: a timely matter like no more than a month, yes, 615 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: we would get the case dismissed, thrown out with prejudice. 616 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: So I don't understand how speedy trial is not being 617 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: which is a due process right, how it is not 618 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: being so that these cases are just strictly thrown out. 619 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: You don't say it's it's a it's a fantastic question, 620 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: and and and honestly, and I appreciate the caller, and 621 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing your expertise here. It's why you 622 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: need high level lawyering because people who are working, as 623 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: as our guests said, people who are working in the 624 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: District Attorney's office and are and are prosecuting here are 625 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: certainly politically motivated. But the public defenders often and especially 626 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, are not going to be allied politically 627 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: with these individuals. So if they're wildly overworked, are they 628 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: going to be putting in the time to defend these 629 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: people to the fullest interest of their their rights. It's 630 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: even worse than that. I mean, the law schools have 631 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: turned into live indoctrination factories. I know you know that, Clay, 632 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: but I've got I've got a family member as a lawyer. 633 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: I mean, this has been clear for a long time. 634 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna have public defenders in the District of Columbia 635 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: who are worried if they defended too zealously their clients 636 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: here and their rights, they wouldn't be welcome at Georgetown 637 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: cocktail parties. Let me tell you that is the reality 638 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: of our nation's capital right now. In the legal profession, 639 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: in many contexts, it's really upsetting. Well more for you 640 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: on this the situation of the Biden regimes, failures on COVID. 641 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: Plus Aaron Rodgers my favorite football player, although I like 642 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady a lot too. I gotta say Aaron Rodgers 643 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: getting spicy with the press, Clay, no doubt that's gonna 644 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: be phenomenal. You're gonna love it. Plus I got a 645 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: John Adams analogy.