1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Samp this is John. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: We're the ancient two case Storytime podcast hosts, and we 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: have some ancient wisdom in the stories coming up. If 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: you want to hear the wisdom from two old heads 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: that know more than they know what to do with, 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wait for a quick message from 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: our sponsors for the next two minutes or so. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: My sister flirted with my exes, so I'm keeping her 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: away from my current one. 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: To cadkeep getting away with this. 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: You won't get this one. This happened with every single 12 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: guy I've ever dated or been interested in. This happened 13 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: with every single guy I've dated or been interested in. 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: I've only had three relationships before my current one with John. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: My twin sister, Sarah twenty two female has tried to 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: interfere with all of them. So twin sister. Oh, he's 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: also story too. By the way, this comes from throwaway 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: sister and boyfriend. And if you want to submit your 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: own stories, go to r size. Okay, storytime se Breden, 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: So two of my exes cheated on me with her. 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: Are you sure they just didn't know what I'm sure 22 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: they didn't get confused. Yeah, she was like, Hi, I'm 23 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: a pee and they were like, I believe it? Or 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: why would you lie to me? 25 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: The third we broke off for other reasons, but Sarah 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: still tried to seduce him. He was a good guy 27 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: and always had boundaries with her, but that didn't stop 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: her from trying to the point of sending him noodles 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: multiple times, then claiming whoop wrong person when that didn't work. 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: She also tried to break us up by lying to 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: my ex and mutual friends that I was cheating. My 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: ex didn't believe her, but some friends did, so Yeah, 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: that was fun to deal with. Then, when we were 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: kids in like middle and high school, if Sarah found 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: out I had to crush, she went after the guy herself. 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I used to tell her those things because well that's 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: what sisters do, right. She always used it against me. 38 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: I told her I was working up the courage, asked 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: my crush the guy I was talking to to prom 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: She then asked him and he said yes. She said 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: he'd been just using me to get to her. Another time, 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: a few years before that, she announced to everyone in 43 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a class that we shared that I like this one 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: boy who got bullied a lot. Kids then started teasing 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: him even more and he hated me. I felt horrible 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: for months. She thought it was the funniest thing ever. 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: She also once told a teacher whose class I was 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: doing bad in that I was into him and willing 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: to do favors for better grades. That got reported and 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: I had to go through this whole counseling thing before 51 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: it was finally cleared up. It was extremely embarrassing. My 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: sister just blew it off as a brank. There's so 53 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: many other situations like this. She either gets the guy 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: who are interested in me to sleep with her or 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: ruins my chances with him by making a BS to 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: make me look bad. She's ruined some of my friendships 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: lying about me too. Told my best friend in high 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: school I was gossiping meanly about her and went as 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: far as faking text messages. I don't know if she 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: even actually wants these people for herself. You might think 61 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: it's obviously jealousy. Sometimes I honestly think she just does it. 62 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Today had a kick out of me with me. I 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: finally got my life more together after wasting the first 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: couple of years of college on being depressed and a gamer. 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I met my boyfriend John at a campus organization. I 66 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: haven't told Sarah, but he ended up meeting my parents 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: by accident. Today. I don't have much contact with them, 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: but they decided to come for a surprise visit. They 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: live over five hours away and do this a few 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: times a semester, even though I said I don't like it. 71 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: But that's for another post. John was in my room 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: with me when they got here. I had no choice 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: but to introduce them. He knows I was holding it 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: off on having them meet because I don't have the 75 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: greatest relationship with them. Sarah lives at home with my 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: parents while going to college Locally. I'm certain they're going 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to mention my boyfriend to her and then cue her 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: on insisting on coming with them the next time they 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: surprise visit me also stocking my social media to trying 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: to figure out who he is. You can't keep it 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: from the world, though. 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you just have to warn them, say 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: my sister is. 84 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Crazy, could you have a fake boyfriend? And then she 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: goes down that rabbit hole and gets trapped, and you. 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: Make a whole profile for him, and you set up 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: a whole LinkedIn for him, and then tricker. 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Boom, I've tried to explain the situation I have with 89 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: her to my parents. They think I'm overreacting. They say, 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: she just wants to know what's going on in my 91 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: life to be involved. 92 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: That's the problem. She wants to be involved. 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the problem, her involvement. And now to mention, 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: we used to be closer before I lost trust in 95 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: her to stop doing crap like this. So I've seen 96 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: what her own life is like. She does things my 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: parents have no idea of. She takes party substances. Sometimes 98 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: this wasn't be a big deal, but she has no 99 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: idea how to be responsible. She drives people around like 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: wasted and high, and my parents think she's with a 101 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: friends studying on the weekends, but she's actually clubbing in 102 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: the city then crashes with their friends. I'm not sure 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: how many real boyfriends she's had, but she's hooked up 104 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of guys in the same night she's 105 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: met them. This has meant a few times she was 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: scared of a pregnancy. I've had to help her get 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: a plan be it sometimes feels like she sleeps with 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: nearly any man that smiles at her and told me 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: she's even had spicy sleep with a few girls while wasted. 110 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: However that's possible. She confind all these things to me, 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: but whenever I need someone to talk to, she has 112 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: no time, never wants to hear anything unless she can 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: save it as ammo. So I've gradually stopped telling her 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: most things. Smart If my parents knew all of this, 115 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: they might see where I'm coming from. But it's just 116 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: random that I don't want her meeting my boyfriend. It's 117 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: not because I want to hurt her or something. The 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: problem is our parents are really strict and traditional and 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: they probably pun her out. And if I told them 120 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: any of that, they don't believe spicy sleep before marriage. 121 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: My boyfriend is the first person I've had spicy sleep with. 122 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Afraid my sister could use that against me if she 123 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: tells them. So what do I do? How can I 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: keep Sarah from finding out about him and doing the 125 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: same thing she does with all my past boyfriends? How 126 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: do I explain this to my parents? And we got 127 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: an update? 128 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: This is what you do. I don't believe in, Like, 129 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: I don't think you should go tell the parents. I 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: think that's like, obviously she's done terrible things, But I 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: don't we don't need to like out her, but we 132 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: go to her and we say, hey, Sarah, just thought 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: i'd heard you and you want to be involved in 134 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: my life. Just thought, you know, maybe our parents would 135 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: want to be more involved in your life. Maybe I 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: could tell him a little bit about your life. 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: And you got pictures ready to show and see Blackmailer. 138 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: That's what Casey lives at Blackmailer. 139 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, like, you don't actually have to 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: do it, Like it's messed up if you knew it, 141 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: but you don't know it. She doesn't know that a 142 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: hunch little soft blackmail doesn't have to actually have any 143 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: follow through. 144 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: But let's be real. Op's experience of blackmailing is level one, 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: and the sister Evil twinsis there's probably like level ninety nine. 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: She's maxed out. She's like, oh, you would have blackmailed me? Okay? Done? 147 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Sence them like, uh, a crazy thing, and then they 148 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: don't support Opie anymore financially. Yeah. I don't know. Evil 149 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Twin is gonna win this no matter what. She already 150 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: knows how to play the system, she's been playing it 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: for years. She's fine. Opie is new to this ball game. 152 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: She's gonna try and do something, and if it was like, okay. 153 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: Well maybe you could do kind of like a mutually 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: assured destruction kind of thing. 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Oh no, you know, like cold war evil twin is 156 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna do anything that she can. So what's the solutionaire, Oh, 157 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: we're looking for solutions. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 158 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 159 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Like the black mail, Okay, black mail's not gonna work, 160 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't think because. 161 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: You can't go and tell the parents about that stuff. 162 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: You might sit them down and tell the parents like, 163 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I love you, guys, I really like this boyfriend, but 164 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: this is what's happened before. Yeah, with my past boyfriend. 165 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: She's always somehow stole them from me. And I would 166 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: really like it if you guys don't share it or 167 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: have her visit and you guys not visit anymore, keep 168 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: it to. 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: Just the information that like, is you about you? 170 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, we got an update, Kean. What would you do? 171 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Just get rid of the twin? 172 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh? I haven't thought about that one yet. 173 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: Only there can only be one whoa update? 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: So I've made a lot of changes in my family 175 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: life since I posted this a couple of weeks ago. 176 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I first told everything to my boyfriend. He was shocked 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: and assured me he'd never cheat on me with my 178 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: sister or anyone else. He also respected that I didn't 179 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: want her to meet him. I decided to take the 180 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: advice and immediately block her own social media. She immediately noticed, 181 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: like within ten minutes after I blocked her, and she 182 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: sent a text saying, did you block me on Instagram 183 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and Facebook? But didn't beat around the bush? I said 184 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: yes because I didn't like how she messed with my 185 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: personal relationships. She tried to guilt trip me about how 186 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't told her about my boyfriend, which means my 187 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: parents must have told her about him, like I knew 188 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: they would. She exploded at me because according to her, 189 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: she would never have tried to stock him or anything. 190 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: What like what I wouldn't stock him yet. 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: Also, it's like whenever people are like, did you cheat 192 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: on me? I didn't do anything physical. I didn't sleep 193 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: with them. I didn't do a doggy style. 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: What do you think? We have a story the other 195 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: day that where the person was like, we didn't cheat, 196 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: we just did other stuff. 197 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: It was like about cheatdy, Yeah, that's what it sounds like. 198 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: She's doing it, but I hadn't even gotten a chance 199 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: to say I was worried she'd do this. She said 200 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: it first, so what does that say exactly? I told 201 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: her I flowed out, didn't trust her not to try 202 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: and take people from me. She called me psycho and selfish. 203 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: I can't reason with her. She just never sees the 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: problem with anything she's done. The way she thinks makes 205 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: it like arguing with a young child. Almost probably because 206 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: she's stuck there. I blocked her number. I still feel 207 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: kind of bad doing this, but what if there was 208 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: an emergency and she needed me? She can call your parents, 209 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: but we live hours apart, so I figured my parents, okay, 210 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: would be the ones who she would contact in that case, and. 211 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: If she needed you, she should have treated you better. 212 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: Ooh, then ask for them. I also got a call 213 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: from my mom soon after I blocked my sister, who 214 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: wanted to know what I was doing because she was upset. 215 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: She had already heard my so easter side, which was 216 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: just that I blocked her out of nowhere or tried 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: to tell her my side. I did not tell her 218 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: my sister's personal business about substances and having spicy sleep 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: relations like I said I would in the first post. 220 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall into petty revenge. I just 221 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: want her to stop interfering in my life. So all 222 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: I said was that in the past, she's been inappropriate 223 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: with guys I've dated and has spread rumors about me, 224 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: and it's made me unable to trust her. My mom 225 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: didn't wanted to know what I meant by inappropriate. My 226 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: parents are really conservative and don't believe in having spicy 227 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: sleep before marriage. She also got my dad on a call. 228 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: At this point, I told them the details didn't matter. 229 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: She kept trying to go back to this point, even 230 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: wanting to know if I have been having pre marital 231 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: spicy sleep. It was really frustrating. I told them the 232 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is that my sister has 233 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: broken my trust. They began saying I should forgive her 234 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: because they care about our family and didn't want to 235 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: see us fighting. Well, I'm not exactly fine. I'm simply 236 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: not going to be in contact with her. To them, 237 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I would also spell it out like, hey, Dad, 238 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: imagine if your brother tried to get with mom. How 239 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: would you feel about that? 240 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,119 Speaker 3: Do you feel about that? And how about if she succeeded. 241 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's happened to me three times already three times. 242 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: Not about to do that again. 243 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I can't keep doing this. 244 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: They wanted me to come home for a weekend to 245 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: discuss everything as a family. I said I wasn't gonna 246 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: do that, that I've made my decision and I have 247 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: no time for a trip. They said they'd come to 248 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: me then that I brought up how they show up 249 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: for random visits when even when I don't like it. 250 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I told them I didn't want them doing that anymore, 251 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: and if they did it again, I wouldn't let them 252 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: in or talk with them. So they flipped out that 253 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: was fun. I had to hear all how I'm constantly 254 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: making problems and I don't care about my family. 255 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: Not fun. Bad times. 256 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: I end up having to block their numbers because they 257 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: kept calling back and blocking on Facebook because they were 258 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: sending messages going back and forth between begging to talk 259 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: and accusing me of being a terrible daughter ancestor. I 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know what the F I'm going to do about them. 261 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: They didn't threaten to stop paying for my college if 262 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I cut them out of my life. I unblocked them 263 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: to say, I want to be in touch with them, 264 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: and I do love them, but I can't do the 265 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: unexpected visits or them prying into my personal life. I said, 266 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: if they stopped doing that, then I'm happy to have 267 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: a relationship with them. They had a million reasons and 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: why I'm in the rock. I gonna deal with it 269 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and reblock them yesterday. So I don't know what my 270 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: tuition deal is going to be now, but we know 271 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: what you can get for free without a tuition is 272 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: if you go to your favorite freaking podcast platform, search 273 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: up what phrase. 274 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: For free okay, story time, and. 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Boom, there will be a plethora of stories waiting for 276 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: you with no tuition. Heeded no education, he had no experience, 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: needed anything else. Before we have a little bit more, 278 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I kind of want to see what happens. 279 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to dive in. 280 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: My boyfriend at least has been really supportive of me 281 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: during this crap. He thinks my parents are way out 282 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: of line, my sister's crazy. He's really helped me see 283 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: as a sane person as I can be. Overall, I 284 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: just feel really crappy. I wish any of them would 285 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: ever listen to what I say. But if they won't, 286 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: then what can I do besides put up with what 287 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: you all pointed out was really controlling, or take more 288 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: control back of myself. It just sucks. It has to 289 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: be so final. I guess I wouldn't mind a middle ground, 290 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: like planning a visit and then once in a while, 291 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: or talking with my sister about non personal things. But 292 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: they want to do way more than I do. 293 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: You don't know the many information, especially not if they're 294 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: going to use it. Or I walked in on my 295 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: sister and husband's betrayal. It ruined everything. 296 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Just close your eyes. 297 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: Then I am absolutely devastated. Yet right now I don't 298 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: know what to do. I don't even know where to start. 299 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: My sister Lisa lost her husband, Jimmy, two years ago 300 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: in a motorcycle accident. She did not take it while 301 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: and closed herself off from the world. A year ago, 302 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: she reached out to us and told us she was 303 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: having a hard time adjusting and said that she needed help. 304 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: I helped her find a good therapist and she has 305 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: been getting her life back on track. By the way, 306 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: this comes from Mistress Whiskers, and if you want to 307 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: spit your own story, go to the yard slash okay, 308 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: storytime separate. So my husband Rick felt bad for her 309 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: and started spending a lot of time with her. For 310 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: the past six months, they have spent more and more 311 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: time together. At first, I was fine with it because 312 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: she was finally becoming like my sister again. She started smiling. 313 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I was so happy for her, and so was my husband. 314 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Yep, because he was pumping life into her. 315 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: They started spending more time alone from me, which I 316 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: didn't think much of at first. Then they started spending 317 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: more and more time alone, and I got jealous. I 318 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: told my husband I would like it if we could 319 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: spend more time together, and that I was feeling a 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: little neglected. He said, okay, but nothing changed. 321 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: He got confused because you guys look the same, and 322 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm not really sure. I don't, but I am, though, 323 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: I am spending a lot more time with you. 324 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: Today, my sister came to my house crying because she 325 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: had a dream about Jimmy. My husband and I comforted her, 326 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: but I was a little annoyed because the second I 327 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: let her in my house, she ran into my husband's arms. 328 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: We all went into the living room and sat down. 329 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: My husband asked her what happened in the dream, and 330 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: she actually asked me to leave the room because she 331 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: didn't feel comfortable telling me. I was so upset at 332 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: this point I immediately left and started tearing up in 333 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: the other room. I was in the other room for 334 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: around ten minutes when I heard a loud sound in 335 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: the living room, so I got up and went there. 336 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: I could not believe what I saw. I'm literally crying 337 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: my eyes out while typing this. They were effing making 338 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: out on my couch in our home. What the f 339 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: do I do? My entire efing world has just been 340 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: shattered in front of my very eyes. I ran out 341 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: of the room because I was going to vomit right there, 342 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: and locked myself in my room. My husband hasn't even 343 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: tried to come in. I've been trying NonStop. Please help 344 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: the two people I trusted more than anything. What the 345 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: heck do I do at it? 346 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: Well? 347 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: I answered the door. Rick walked in wouldn't even look 348 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: at me. He mumbled something and went and sat on 349 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: the bed. I was so angry that he wouldn't even 350 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: look at me that I almost left right there. I 351 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: asked him what the heck was going on with him 352 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: and my sister. He sat there for a few minutes 353 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: without saying anything while I was crying my eyes out, 354 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: until I finally yelled at him to answer me. He 355 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: whispered that he loved her. At this point I lost it. 356 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: I started yelling, how could he do this to me? 357 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: Did these past ten years mean nothing to him? I 358 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: literally dropped to my knees and asked how he could 359 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: betray me with my own sister and then tell me 360 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: he loves her. He was quiet the entire time until 361 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: I stopped yelling. He said that he had been regretting 362 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: not experimenting with other women before we got married, and 363 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: that he shouldn't have married the first girl he was with, 364 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: so he hooked up with the second girl he saw. 365 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: He was, I don't know, like, your sister's right there 366 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: and she's grieving. I was stunned and asked if he 367 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: even loved me. He said yes, but that after spending 368 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: time with my sister, he realizes she's who he wants 369 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: to be with. I had no words. I didn't have 370 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: any clue what to say. All my life was falling 371 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: apart in front of my eyes, and I was scared. 372 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: I told him I might be pregnant. Is that true? 373 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: And he said that he would support me. I asked how, 374 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: and he said he didn't know, but that he was 375 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: leaving me to go be with my sister. 376 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: Sorry. Whenever she said I might be pregnant, it just 377 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: felt like Kelly while she was trying to get it, 378 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: because because we had no like ramp up to this 379 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: and just like all of a sudden happened, not like 380 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: we were trying for a baby. 381 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I tell you why if I might be 382 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: pregnant and he's like, I don't care. He apologized to 383 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: me and told me I deserve better than him and 384 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: that he will do whatever he can to help me 385 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: and the baby. If I agree to divorce him, he 386 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 3: will give me everything he just wants out of our marriage. 387 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: All right, you're moving on. 388 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the house. I'm gonna take all of 389 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: our money. I'm gonna take this. I guess child don't want. 390 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: At least she'll still see him around holidays. If your 391 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: parents aren't super against this, I'm gonna flip. In that moment, 392 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: I felt like I hated him and never wanted to 393 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: see him again. So I screamed at him, Fine, just 394 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: get the f out, you ruin my life. I hope 395 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: you're effing happy, you piece of crap. And then he 396 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: had the audacity to try and hug me. I flipped 397 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: out and pushed him off of me. Someone knocked on 398 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: the door. Then he told me that he still loved 399 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: me and we would figure everything out and left. I 400 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: decided to call my parents and tell them what happened. 401 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: My mom dropped a bombshell on me that my sister 402 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: told her that she had feelings for my husband and 403 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: that she wanted to be with him. 404 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Mom, give a girl the warning. 405 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: Oh man, on your whole family side. 406 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: Your mom was probably like, I just didn't want to 407 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: kid to see where we met the I don't know. 408 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: I I'm retired, I didn't want to have got trouble. 409 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: Why she didn't tell me this, I have no efing clue, 410 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: but I feel like everyone is against me Right now. 411 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: I am sitting on the computer looking at lawyers in 412 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: my area. My entire life has gone to shambles within hours, 413 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: and I'm terrified real quick if. 414 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I got somehow in the situation, would you tell me 415 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: or vice versa, would you tell my brothers? Please answer? 416 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. 417 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: I just gotta check real. I gotta know, gotta get 418 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: on the same page with her. Tomorrow, I'm going to 419 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: go get a pregnancy test. I just hope to effing 420 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: god I'm not pregnant, because I do not want to 421 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: have this piece of craps baby. God, guys, I am 422 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: so effing upset right now. I want effing drink right now, 423 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: but I won't in case I am pregnant and there 424 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: is an update. 425 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: You got any thoughts, Kellen, what are you doing? 426 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: Oh? So my entire famili's against me. My sister betrayed me. 427 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: My husband betrayed me too. I'm going to. 428 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Mexico, bros. Going to Kancoo. 429 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, home is not home anymore. So I am getting 430 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: far away from this place. 431 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: Good into Europe, and I'm starting a new life. 432 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, just a new life. There's no point of 433 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: trying to try and reprimand this or try and get back. 434 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: There's no point. This isn't like a conversation's gotta fix 435 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: something like these people don't care, you know, there's nothing 436 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: to be curious about. Overreach, So he was trying to 437 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: steal my foot rest Like, do you have any other friends? 438 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Because your mom doesn't like you? 439 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: Your mom's going to be like, oh no, oh, p 440 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: don't understand. She loved them. 441 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: It's just her way of healing. 442 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, like she was grieving. You have to have grace. 443 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Your husband was putting life in her. 444 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: It's really just the godly thing to do. There is 445 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: an update. I woke up this morning and felt like 446 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: complete crap and didn't want to get up. I went 447 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 3: and got a pregnancy test, and thank effing God, I'm 448 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: not pregnant. It was bittersweet because we have been trying 449 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: to get pregnant for a while now, and I never 450 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: thought i'd be so glad to see I wasn't pregnant. See, 451 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: the husband was just trying to increase the chances that 452 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: you guys would have a child related to you. I 453 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: am really upset over the way things have turned out, 454 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: and now I'm having these weird feelings that I want 455 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: to be pregnant after all. I don't know what's going on, 456 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: but it's just adding on another difficult layer of crap. 457 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: A little while later, I left the house to get 458 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: groceries and when I opened my mailbox there was a 459 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: letter in it from Lisa. After I got home, I 460 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: opened it and read it. I'm not going to rewrite 461 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: it because I can't even stand to look at the 462 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: letter again. But basically it said that she apologizes for 463 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: how things turn out. And she explained to me that 464 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: she was very vulnerable after losing her husband, that after 465 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: spending so much time with my husband, she started to 466 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: fall for him, and that she thought she wouldn't ever 467 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: love anyone else again. So when she realized she loved 468 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 3: my husband, she knew she couldn't let him go. No 469 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: one else can fill the hole in her heart. Lisa 470 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: promised they never physically did anything before that kiss. I 471 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: caught them in and she went on to say she 472 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: needs me in her life and that she hopes I 473 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: can forgive her. I can't write any more about this 474 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: right now. I might add in the rest later. I 475 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: am an efing mess. Rick called me a little while ago. 476 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: I didn't pick up the phone, so he texted me 477 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: and told me that he still loves me and that 478 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: we can find a way to work this out. 479 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Literally, didn't you say earlier you loved the sister. Now 480 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: you can't make up your mind? 481 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 482 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: Usually, Oh no, I can I have both of you. 483 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: It's not fair, it's not how it works. I don't 484 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: know what theF that means since he just left me 485 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: for Lisa. Now I'm really confused because now that I'm 486 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: not pregnant, I want to be and I want my 487 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: marriage to not be over, even though I hate him 488 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: for what he's done to me. 489 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: Didn't she says she don't want to get pit pregnant. 490 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's what she's saying. She's like, Oh, like, now 491 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: that I'm no, I'm not pregnant, I want to be pregnant. 492 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: But you're having a lot of mixed feelings because you 493 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: want to be in the relationship that you thought that 494 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: you were in. That's the thing. 495 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm so mixed up in all this. Everyone's like, I 496 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be with you. I want to be 497 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: with you. I don't want to be pregnant. I want 498 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: to be pregnant. 499 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: It's not that she doesn't want to be pregnant with 500 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: her cheating husband, but she wants to have the husband 501 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: that she thought she had and have the kid that 502 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: she was supposed to have. So she's missing this life 503 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: that she thought she was going to And why would 504 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 3: he text me that? Is he changing his mind? I'm 505 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: so confused. It doesn't matter don't go back to this man. 506 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: He cheated on you. I wish these past few days 507 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: never happened so there would be nothing wrong. Still, I 508 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: know I shouldn't forgive him if he wants another chance, 509 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: but ten years of marriage. Nope, no, no, you don't 510 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: have a kid. You don't have a kid yet, Lee, 511 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: he said he would give you everything. Leave we were 512 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 3: going to be parents. If I'm so confused and hurt, 513 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: I can't even think straight. And there is a second update. 514 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: Man, this poor girl look. 515 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: Like truly, I honestly think you should move. I think 516 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: you should like move countries, start over. You know it 517 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 3: doesn't always work for people, but I think that's because 518 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, people go there thinking that it's gonna be perfect, 519 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: but then realize that they left their support system. You 520 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: don't have a supports system here. 521 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, your support system hates you. 522 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: Your support system sucks. Go make a new one in 523 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: some other country and and start over there. You got 524 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: your whole life out of you. How old is you 525 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: go like you're you know you're fine man twenty nine? 526 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah you're fine. Don't like, don't live in the sunk 527 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: cost fallacy of Yeah, oh, I've spent ten years with him. 528 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: We were supposed to have a baby. You didn't have 529 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: a baby. 530 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: You're too young. 531 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 3: You know you're not tied to him in any way, 532 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: so just get out ikes update two. One of the 533 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: most common questions I got was about my mother. Well, 534 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: I talk to my mother again and she informed me 535 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: that she has known about my sister having a thing 536 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: for my husband for quite some time. She didn't want 537 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: to tell me because she said she was trying to 538 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: get my sister to give up the idea and she 539 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: did not want me to be hurt. She got my 540 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: sister to agree to let it go a few months 541 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: ago and never heard anything more about it, so she 542 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: thought it was over okay, so at least she did 543 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: try to prevent it. In the letter I got in 544 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: the mail, I did not want to write it all 545 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: down because it was very painful. A few days have 546 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: passed and I'm ready to share some more information, but 547 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: please don't ask for more because I'm simply not comfortable 548 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: sharing the rest of the letter. In the letter, Lisa 549 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: apologized for her behavior, but also went on to blame 550 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: me and said that I flaunted my happiness in front 551 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: of her with my husband. She wrote that she couldn't 552 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: stand to see how happy we were and how he 553 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: genuinely loved me, and she had no one. She told 554 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: me I should have reached out to her alone, and 555 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: that I had no business getting my husband involved. I 556 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: don't even know what that is supposed to mean. He's 557 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: my dang husband. I'm not supposed to involve him in 558 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: a serious matter like that. She also went on to 559 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: say that my husband told her he never really loved 560 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: me and that she was who he really wanted to 561 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: be with, and asked me not to contact him. She 562 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: wants me to go through her if I want to 563 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: say anything to him, and that she will bring over 564 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 3: the divorce papers in a few weeks. The audacity of 565 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: this woman, the audacity of her to be like, oh, yeah, 566 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 3: you can't talk to your husband. I know he's still 567 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: legally your husband, but I'm kind of his lawyer right now. 568 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be managing the divorce papers, So if you 569 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 3: could just not talk to him, just talk to me. 570 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: I'd be like, Uh, nope, you can talk my lawyer 571 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: ain't talking to me. 572 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, so frustrating. 573 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: I've had a few days to process this information, But 574 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: the more I think about it, the more confusing, it 575 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: seems to me. Then I got more information today Lisa 576 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: is pregnant. 577 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, nohing. 578 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: Pregnant, she says. It's Ricks recalled me as soon as 579 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: he heard my father inform me. I picked up the 580 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: phone only because I wanted to hear how he could 581 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: lie to my face and tell me nothing happened between 582 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: them before that kiss. Of course, something happened between them 583 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: before that kiss. While your wife is in the other room, 584 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: you don't just start making out. He tried. That was 585 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: the first time. 586 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: He tripped and fell on her face. 587 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: With his face he told me that he was so 588 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: sorry and he didn't want it to happen this way. 589 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: And then my father wasn't supposed to tell me. I 590 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: started crying and asking him how he could get pregnant 591 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: with Lisa when we were trying for a baby. Then 592 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: he said something that stunned me so much my head 593 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: is still spinning from it. Rick told me he could 594 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: still give me pregnant if I wanted. DOUBTF, I screamed, 595 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: and him, why the f would I want to be 596 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: pregnant with his child? 597 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: What? 598 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: He's a piece of crap? He told me he wanted 599 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: to be with both me and my sister, and that 600 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: he thinks he's polyamorous. I was so shocked that I 601 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: started laughing. After I stopped laughing, he tried to say 602 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: something else. Then I heard Lisa enter the room and 603 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: ask who he was on the phone with. He said 604 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: nobody and hung on a little later, my sister texted 605 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: me and told me she would bring over the divorce 606 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: papers in a week and expected me to sign them 607 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: on the spot, as my husband is giving me everything. 608 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: She gave me a heads up that they're getting married 609 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: next month and I'm invited to the wedding if I 610 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: agree to pretend like I was never even romantically involved 611 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: with my husband. I am literally at such a loss 612 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: right now. Who the F is this man? And where 613 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: is the one I'm married? Why the F after all 614 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: this crap, do I still want to be with him? 615 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: Even though I know I can't be. I just want 616 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: the man I've been with for the past ten years back. 617 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: I hate Lisa and no longer consider her my sister. 618 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: She has ruined my entire life. But what do I 619 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: do about my husband? He just texted me right now 620 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: saying he still wants to be with me. Loves me 621 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: and wants a baby with me. Why is he doing 622 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: this to me? Why am I even considering it? F 623 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: And there is a third update. 624 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot to say about this, actually, and 625 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: I think we should both be on screen while I 626 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: say this. How does this guy think it's gonna work out? 627 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, so I'll go you, okay, go with 628 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: the sister. And then with the sister. I'm gonna do this, 629 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: this and this, and then after that I'm gonna go 630 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: over here and this is in this, and then I'm 631 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: gonna marry the sister. But then I'm also gonna let 632 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: o pino, oh, I can still still make pricknant, still 633 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: be your baby daddy. 634 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: And then maybe every couple of years, I'll divorce the 635 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: other sister and then marry you, and then I'll divorce 636 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: you and then married the sister so that we can 637 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: just kind of keep going. Yeah, I think that should work. 638 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: They're all stupid. 639 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: They're all stupid. I kind of see where the mom's 640 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: coming from, Like she wanted it to be like fizzle out, 641 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: but like that happened. You gotta I don't know. It's 642 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: just if you don't tell someone, it buils up into this. 643 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: That's like a little bit your fault. 644 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: Mom. 645 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: Can he get like that the thing is so quick 646 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: and get married that quickly? 647 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: No, from what I know, it'd be a little bit longer. 648 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, how do we not see this happening earlier too? 649 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a picture of this couple, Yeah, 650 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: and love to see I want to see all of them. 651 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: But uh, there is an update, man, update three. I 652 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: know this update is long overdue. Yeah, I have to 653 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: wait one second, to be honest. The reason why I 654 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: did an update anymore, it was because I made pretty 655 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: poor decisions that I was ashamed of. Please don't tell 656 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: me you got back, and didn't want to face the 657 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: reality of my situation. I wish I could come here 658 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: and tell you all that I was strong and cut 659 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: Rick and Lisa out of my life and moved on 660 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: with my life, updating to tell you how much better 661 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: off I am without them a year later. Sadly, this 662 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: is not the case. I effed up bad. One commoner 663 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: told me that I have something called sad person brain. 664 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: I remember reading it and being in denial, but now 665 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: that so much time has passed, this was absolutely the truth. 666 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to do anything to make my pain stop, 667 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: so I did. I would appreciate it if I didn't 668 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: get reamed for the choices I made. What's done is done, 669 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: and I need help now. Thank you in advance. If 670 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: you remember my last post, Rick and I were trying 671 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: to get pregnant before he left for my sister, and 672 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: wanted to even after he did, because he thought he 673 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 3: might be polyamorous. At the time, I laughed at him 674 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: because of how absurd it was, But after he hung 675 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: up that call, the offer got more and more tempting. 676 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: I started thinking about it, becoming enraged at my sister 677 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: for doing what she did to me. I thought that 678 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: I could get back at her by doing it to her, 679 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: throwing it in her face that her new boyfriend doesn't 680 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: love her more than me. After all, I was so 681 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: angry that I heavily considered doing it. The more I 682 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: thought about it, the more I wanted to out of 683 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: sheer petty revenge. 684 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, gracious, don't get me wrong. 685 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: I also wanted my husband in my life back, but 686 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: the thought of seeing my sister's new found happiness and 687 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: smugness over me come crashing down gave me a pleasure 688 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: that I never would have imagined. My sister tried very 689 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: hard to keep my contact with Rick limited. I think 690 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: she was afraid he would come back to me if 691 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: she didn't. 692 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: You lose out. 693 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: You get him. 694 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: They related and I cheat him to your sister. Wait wait, 695 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: they're related and they recently lost a husband. Yep. 696 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: She was only able to accomplish this for a few months. 697 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 3: Rick try to contact me in numerous ways during this time, 698 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: but it was always very brief. I was still angry 699 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: and non receptive to his advances, but he started becoming 700 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: more and more aggressive, telling me how much he loved me, 701 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: how much he missed me, how much he still wanted me. 702 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: I even tried blocking him on certain social media accounts, 703 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: but he kept trying on others. I know I should 704 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: have just blocked him on everything, but I just couldn't. 705 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 3: The more he tried, the harder it was for me 706 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: to say no. Unfortunately, this resulted in us getting back together. 707 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Oh Pee, you knew there's more people in the world though, 708 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: he O, P what does this guy look like? He 709 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: probably looks like that, but you know what, rats have 710 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: long tail. 711 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: I told him I wouldn't stay with him unless he 712 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: left my sister He swore to me up and down. 713 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: He loved me more than anything, and facing losing me 714 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: made him realize it and that my sister was nothing 715 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: to him. Everything was amazing between us again. It was 716 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: like old times, and like my sister didn't even exist 717 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: when he was with me, Yet every night would go 718 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: back to her. Stupidly, I decided to believe him when 719 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: he said he was just waiting for the right time, 720 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: an excuse after excuse about how bad he felt for 721 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: things felt so much better when he was back with me. 722 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: I didn't want to lose him again. Unfortunately, I ended 723 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: up getting pregnant because I did not recontinue my birth 724 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: control from when we were trying for a child before 725 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: any of this happened. You are messy. 726 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: You know what probably happened. This guy got this loved 727 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: on him, and these women are just obsessed. 728 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: But it only works on Ope and people that Opie 729 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: is related to. 730 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: Whoever he's around, the women he's around more Mom, stay away, 731 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: stay away Mom. 732 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: At the time, we were both ecstatic and everything seemed 733 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: like it was a dream come true. I had my 734 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: husband back, we were having a child, and my life 735 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: was no longer in Piece's Girl he's still actively seeing 736 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: your sister. Did this erase everything? 737 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: I'm so confused. 738 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: I was so happy that I turned a blind eye 739 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: to everything obviously effed up about the situation. I didn't 740 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 3: want to see it. I just wanted to stay happy. 741 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't long before Lisa found out. My entire family 742 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: turned on me. 743 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: How did that happen? But I'm so confused. Is everyone like, 744 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, did they get you mixed up? Do you 745 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: guys look the same? 746 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: Like? 747 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: What is happening here? 748 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: My parents told me how it seemed like I did 749 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: this just out of retaliation and to hurt Lisa. Oh boy, 750 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: what about when Lisa did it? They weren't completely wrong, 751 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: but I mainly just wanted my old life back. Long 752 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: story short, Lisa went absolutely berserk. She sent me a 753 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: long list of never ending pestering texts, emails, and calls. 754 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: I endured heck from her and my family for months 755 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: until I had to get a protective order. This only 756 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: resulted in my family hating me even more. Now none 757 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: of them will speak to me, and Rick has been 758 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: issued an ultimatum by them to cut me off or 759 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: be cut off. 760 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: Like I said, we're going to Mexico. They should have 761 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: been done along. I didn't leave a long time ago. 762 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: He hasn't decided on what he's gonna do yet, but 763 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: it seems like he's leaning towards cutting me off, as 764 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: he's been communicating with me less and less these past weeks. 765 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 3: Not to mention, there has been mounting pressure from the 766 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: family for him to finalize the divorce, but it hasn't 767 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: happened for various reasons. I'm sorry your parents are mad 768 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: at you for sleeping with your husband legally still your husband, 769 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: clearly the golden child. Yikes, that was true. The last 770 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: thing he told me was that he feels bad, but 771 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: that he loves her, and passive aggressively insinuated that I 772 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: tempted into trying to get back with me. This is 773 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: a night there which is complete bs because he was 774 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: the one who kept pursuing me. He said that I 775 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 3: shouldn't have gotten pregnant because now I've made his life 776 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: so much harder. How I let myself believe he was 777 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: the man I married again is beyond me. Now. All 778 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: I see is how clouded my judgment is men and 779 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: the utter mess I've gotten myself into. 780 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: She has thought with the wrong head. 781 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: How I wanted to be happy again so bad I 782 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: destroyed my life even more trying to get that back. 783 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: I'm eight months pregnant and scared. I don't know how 784 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: I can raise this baby alone. I really don't want 785 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: to give her up for adoption, and the pain of 786 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: losing my husband twice is unbearable. Even though I know 787 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: it was because of my own stupidity, I still love 788 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: him and can't believe everything he's done to me. Losing 789 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 3: my entire family over this has also been a huge 790 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: punt to me when I'm at rock bottom. Most of 791 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: our mutual friends have distanced themselves from us because no 792 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: one wants to take sides, but it's obvious they are 793 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: all quite disgusted with the way things have turned out. 794 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: I have no one left now. Please help me? Reddit, 795 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: How the heck can I fix the mess I've made 796 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: my life into? And that is the end of that story. 797 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: But you know what can fix your lives? Listening to 798 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: full episodes of stories just like this? 799 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: Where do I go to Spotify. 800 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts or iHeartRadio Riley? 801 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: What do I search up? 802 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 6: So? 803 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: Okay? 804 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Story time is silly? 805 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 6: Use? 806 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: Oh wow? And what's there for me so. 807 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: Many stories just like this. I don't know if I 808 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: can fix this. 809 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: Advice you should have moved when this first happened. Get 810 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: out of there, Get out of there, move Sam. Here 811 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three 812 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: of it's bads from our sponsors. 813 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: My friend didn't make me her bridesmaid. I feel betrayed. 814 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 6: Ooh, betrayed as a me. 815 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 5: I'm getting married in June. I'm going to have my 816 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 5: friend Jim as my dude of honor and my friend 817 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: Jane as my bridesmaid. Jim and I have been friends 818 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 5: since college, but my friendship with Jane is longer and 819 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: a bit more complicated. 820 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: By the way. 821 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 5: This comes from a wedding a throw ten ninety two 822 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 5: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 823 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 5: to the our slash Okay storytime subreddit. We started to 824 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 5: be friends in high school, where we were friends with 825 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 5: two other girls. They'll be important later typical teenager and 826 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 5: twenty something drama happened and I'm not close with the 827 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: two other girls anymore. One straight up said that she 828 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 5: didn't want to be friends with me anymore, and I 829 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 5: guess the other friend just followed her lead. I'll admit 830 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 5: that Jane and I used to be closer when we 831 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: were younger, and we drifted apart, but I still considered 832 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 5: her a close friend. When I got engaged, I asked 833 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 5: Jane to be my bridesmaid. When I got engaged, I 834 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: asked Jane to be my bridesmaid. When I asked, she 835 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 5: was kind of hesitant. She was engaged too, and said 836 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 5: that we'd probably be planning weddings at the same time, 837 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 5: and she was worried that she wouldn't be able to 838 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 5: devote a lot of time to my wedding. I told 839 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 5: her it was going to be super laid back and 840 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: she wouldn't have to do too much, and that I 841 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 5: wanted her there, so she agreed. Planning the wedding has 842 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 5: had its own ups and downs, lots of drama from family, 843 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: but Jane has been a good enough bridesmaid. My friend 844 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 5: Jim has been planning my bachelorette and they both went 845 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 5: to see me get my veil. I think she could 846 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 5: stand to be a bit more involved, but can distance 847 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 5: and time. 848 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 3: She's doing enough. 849 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 5: When Jane first got engaged, she wasn't even sure if 850 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: she wanted to have a traditional wedding. She was talking 851 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 5: about doing something really small and only inviting immediate family 852 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 5: and close friends. It turns out that she actually is 853 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 5: going to have a ceremony and reception in the fall. 854 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 5: I awkwardly found out over dinner after pushing her for 855 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 5: wedding details, that she was planning on having bridesmaids and 856 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 5: I wasn't one of them. 857 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: She claimed it was because I live far away. Not really. 858 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 5: We live in different cities on the East Coast and 859 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 5: are about a train ride away, and she didn't want 860 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: to bother me because I'd be busy with my wedding 861 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 5: and merit. To make matters worse, the two girls I 862 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 5: had a falling out with are of course in the wedding. 863 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 5: It hurts so much since I assumed that we'd all 864 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 5: be together during our weddings. 865 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm hurt. 866 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: Jane and I went through a lot together and I 867 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 5: really wanted her to be a part of my wedding. 868 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 5: I'm hurt that she doesn't feel the same way. When 869 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 5: I told my mom, she was shocked and said how 870 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 5: rude Jane was. My fiance said it was okay to 871 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 5: feel hurt and that it was a wiener move, but 872 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 5: that Jane also has a right to have whoever she 873 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 5: wants in her wedding party. Am I wrong for feeling 874 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 5: like this? Should I confront her? I don't even know 875 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 5: if I want her in my wedding anymore. We do 876 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 5: have an update, But what are our thoughts so far? 877 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can. 878 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say you're an a hole for feeling anything. 879 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, it's it's just more like it's hard. 880 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 7: You're not in the same city and you know you guys. 881 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 7: I think it's just a discussion. You got to communicate 882 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 7: you and be like, all right, so what's what's up. 883 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 7: Like she's kind of told you why you're not a bridesmaid, 884 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 7: but like, maybe dig a little deeper under it. 885 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 6: It's hard to say, but like I would say, you're 886 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 6: an a hole. 887 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 5: But we do have an update, So I wanted to 888 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 5: update because things have blown up. This is going to 889 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 5: be long. I found out about not being in the 890 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 5: wedding a little over a week ago, so I had 891 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 5: been stewing for a while when I made my last post. 892 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 5: I was a little dishonest in the first post because 893 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: I was already in the process of confronting her when 894 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 5: I wrote it. I texted her early in the morning. 895 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 5: I posted and told her that I was disappointed by 896 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 5: her lack of involvement in my wedding. She replied that 897 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 5: she was sorry that I felt hurt, but that she 898 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 5: had warned me about this when I. 899 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: First asked her. That is true. 900 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 5: She also mentioned that she wasn't sure what else I 901 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 5: wanted from her. She has done everything I asked, and 902 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: that it seemed like Jim has everything handled for the 903 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 5: bachelorette and hasn't reached out to her. Then I texted 904 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 5: her about bridesmaids. She didn't text me back all day, 905 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 5: so I called. 906 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: Her that evening. 907 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 5: The conversation really didn't go well. She said that she 908 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 5: didn't reply because she was busy at work and honestly 909 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 5: didn't know what to say. She said that she chose 910 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 5: the people closest to her. She has also known the 911 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 5: two friends I had fallen out with since childhood, and 912 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 5: her other two are her college roommate and her other 913 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: friend from work she lived with in the past. She 914 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: said that even when wedding details were murky, she knew 915 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 5: that she'd ask them. I told her that I had 916 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 5: always envisioned all of us planning our weddings together and 917 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 5: being left out of it was all pretty painful. 918 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: Her reply hurt. 919 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 5: She said that she was sorry that I was no 920 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 5: longer friends with the two bridesmaids and her party. She 921 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 5: truly wishes me no ill will from the past, but 922 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 5: that they have their own valid reasons for ending our friendship. 923 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 5: Then she said that she was honestly surprised that I 924 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 5: asked her to be a part of my wedding and 925 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 5: that she wouldn't have I've been surprised. 926 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: If she didn't even get an invite. 927 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 5: I spoke to my therapist the next day about she 928 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 5: pretty much echoed what people said here, and I was 929 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 5: putting way too much pressure on Jane and was inappropriately 930 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 5: using her wedding as a friend reunion. Oh In, my 931 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 5: fiance and I got into a huge fight about the wedding. 932 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 5: I texted Jane after and she was nice and listened 933 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 5: to me rant, but it felt awkward. On top of 934 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 5: it all, I got to see her post a lovely 935 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 5: Instagram story about shopping for her wedding dress with all 936 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 5: of her bridesmaids and getting drinks after. 937 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 7: So the read I'm getting off of this is you're 938 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 7: just kind of upset that your friend's wedding is happening. 939 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 6: I don't know. 940 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's like, I think maybe this friendship 941 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 5: breakup thing was maybe recent, and maybe Op's not over 942 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 5: it and not accepting of it just yet. And yeah, 943 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 5: she probably was hoping like maybe maybe things will get 944 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 5: better once they like hang out with me again, because 945 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 5: she was the one like that was dropped. Everyone said 946 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 5: that they didn't want to be friends with her, so 947 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 5: she probably is feeling a little abandoned there. I am 948 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 5: so over weddings. I wish I was eloping. I'm a 949 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 5: little jealous that Jane seems to be having an awesome 950 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 5: time planning hers. Making friends in your thirties is tough, 951 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 5: but I thought I had a few close ones I 952 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 5: could rely on. But I guess I was wrong. So 953 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 5: thanks Reddit, you tried to warm me, but I was 954 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 5: already set on being the a hole when I posted 955 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 5: my advice to people upset about bridesmaids and groomsmen, don't 956 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 5: question their choices and accept whatever role that they want 957 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 5: you to play in their wedding. And Opie answered some 958 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 5: questions why they fell out with two bridesmaids. Honestly, it 959 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 5: was a bunch of dumb teenage and twenty something drama. Essentially, 960 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 5: I moved to a city around the same time one 961 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 5: of my friends was living there. I got involved in 962 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 5: her friend group and some guy she liked ended up 963 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 5: liking me more. We dated, but he was clinging and 964 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: got weird when I broke up with him, and after 965 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 5: that the group kind of imploded and everyone blamed me. 966 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 5: After my one friend said that she no longer wouldn't 967 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 5: be in her life, the other one followed. I was 968 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 5: supposed to grab dinner with her one day and she 969 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 5: delayed because she was hanging out with the one that 970 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 5: hates me. I told her to forget it all and 971 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 5: that she didn't have to see me if she didn't 972 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 5: want to. I'll admit I was a bit dramatic in 973 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 5: the past, but I've grown up a lot, and I 974 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 5: had hoped that we could kind of forgive and forget. 975 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 5: We all used to be so close, and I miss 976 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 5: their friendship. But we do have another update. I picked 977 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 5: someone who thought I was a close friend to be 978 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 5: my bridesmaid. She's done what she's been asked to do, 979 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 5: but hasn't gone above and beyond to do anything extra. 980 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 5: She's also getting married later this year. I'm invited, but 981 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 5: I'm not a bridesmaid. To make matters worse, two people 982 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 5: I had a falling out with are in her wedding. 983 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: We were all friends in high school. 984 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 5: We're all in very early thirties now, and it hurts 985 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 5: that they're all still friends and I'm being excluded. I 986 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 5: had a big session with my therapist yesterday and I 987 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 5: realized that I had kind of strong armed her into 988 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 5: doing this. 989 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 3: She tried to say no, that she would be too. 990 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 5: Busy on her own wedding to give me the time 991 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 5: and attention I needed, but I convinced her that it 992 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 5: would be fine and that I wanted her to be 993 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 5: a big part of my day. I think that she's 994 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 5: an effing adult and could have said no, But. 995 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 3: What do I know. I'll admit I thought we were 996 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: closer than we actually are in real life. 997 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you literally just went from My therapist told 998 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 7: me it helped me understand that I actually strong armed 999 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 7: this person. Yeah, and then in the next breath, being like, well, 1000 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 7: she's an effing adult. 1001 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 6: She could say no exactly, well yeah, but you. 1002 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 7: Kind of strong armed her yeah, and harangued her into 1003 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 7: saying yes. 1004 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1005 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 5: I think that's a difficult situation because like, sure, she 1006 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 5: is an adult, she could say no even like no 1007 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 5: matter how pushy you are. But sometimes if people are 1008 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 5: pushy enough, you don't want to be. 1009 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 3: Rude because it's your wedding. 1010 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 7: It's the reality of politic in like any given social situation. 1011 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 7: And it's like, all this tells me is this keeps reading. 1012 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 7: It's like OPI is like, how did all of this 1013 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 7: happen to me? Like, meanwhile, a lot of the things 1014 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 7: are direct results of OPI's actions. 1015 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll admit I thought we were closer than we 1016 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 5: actually are in real life. We were really close in 1017 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 5: high school but drifted apart after college. I still considered 1018 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 5: her a close friend even though we didn't talk much. 1019 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 5: I just feel like now she is this whole life 1020 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 5: without me, with all of these friends, and I'm left 1021 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 5: in the dust. Even seeing her bridal party makes me jealous. 1022 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 5: I feel like I didn't know who to ask, and 1023 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 5: she has four best friends that are bending over backwards 1024 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 5: for her. My friend posted this super cute Instagram story 1025 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 5: about her shopping with her friends for her dress and 1026 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 5: celebrating after her I got so upset I cried and 1027 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 5: threw my phone across the room. I'm angry as heck 1028 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 5: at her and want to pun her out of the 1029 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 5: bridal party. I feel betrayed and used, but I don't 1030 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 5: know who else I would ask. I don't have a 1031 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 5: lot of friends, and my maid of honor is my 1032 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 5: guy friend from college. Why are bridesmaids even a thing? 1033 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 5: The whole idea is designed to make drama and hurt 1034 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 5: everyone's feelings. 1035 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 3: On top of it all, planning the wedding has been 1036 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 3: in a nightmare. 1037 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 5: My parents, who are divorced, are using it as an 1038 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 5: excuse to try to outdo each other. My fiance's family 1039 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 5: is dysfunctional and don't like me much. His mom is 1040 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 5: a control freak and planned everyone else's wedding and she's 1041 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 5: trying to do the same for mine. We keep arguing 1042 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 5: about the wedding and had a huge blow up about 1043 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 5: it yesterday. We're pouring so much money into this wedding 1044 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 5: and I can't wait for it to be over. Can 1045 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 5: someone make me feel better post about their wedding drama 1046 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 5: and how everything worked out in the end. I'm at 1047 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 5: the end of my rope. My wedding is in less 1048 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 5: than two months and I'm not excited about it at all, 1049 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 5: and we have. 1050 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 3: Yet another updates. 1051 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: Let's freaking go. 1052 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 3: But do we How do we make her feel better? 1053 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1054 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 6: You need to adjust your expectations. 1055 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know I suggest this to every single 1056 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 7: person who gets married. I have a secret wedding first, 1057 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 7: and then have your big wedding. That's expensive. Yeah, so 1058 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 7: if it all starts going wrong, you don't have to 1059 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 7: worry about your marriage being ruined because you already had 1060 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 7: a beautiful wedding just the two of you. 1061 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1062 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: When she said something about wishing that she could have lope, 1063 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 5: I immediately thought about that that you would say secret wedding. 1064 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 6: It is something I would say. 1065 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: But we have another update. 1066 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 5: Hey, y'all, I don't know if anyone remembers my Reddit 1067 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 5: meltdown from a month ago, but I've been getting some 1068 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 5: nice messages in my inbox asking me for an update. 1069 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 5: The truth is that not a lot has changed. I'm 1070 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 5: still kind of miserable about the wedding. Things with my 1071 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 5: bridesmaids are awkward, to say the least. I'm kind of 1072 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 5: embarrassed about how everything went out, and now I feel 1073 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 5: like she's kind of keeping me at a distance. She 1074 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 5: has her dress and has been good with updating me 1075 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 5: on her outfit and day of stuff, and texts to 1076 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 5: chat about how planning is going, but she's been tight 1077 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 5: lipped about her What If I ask her anything, she 1078 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 5: just says it's going good and leaves it at that. 1079 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 5: To make things worse, She's in full bride mode with 1080 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 5: her friends, and I keep seeing Instagram stories pop up 1081 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 5: with cute planning details. It's hard to not feel extremely jealous, 1082 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 5: left out, and angry when I see her making bouquets 1083 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 5: with her friends and chatting about taco bars for the reception. 1084 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to say that that fight ruined our friendship, 1085 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 5: because it's clear that we just aren't that close anymore, 1086 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 5: but I really wish that I had just kept my 1087 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 5: mouth shut. My fiance extended family is driving me nuts. 1088 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 5: They're asking about bringing plus ones when we're almost a 1089 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 5: month out from the wedding. I'm so pissed because I 1090 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 5: think it's rude to even ask, and that if it 1091 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 5: really was that important, they should have brought it up 1092 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 5: to me when they first learned about the wedding. My 1093 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 5: fiance also doesn't like to talk to me about the 1094 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 5: wedding anymore. He says that whenever I bring something up, 1095 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 5: we end up fighting, so he'd rather just stop talking 1096 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 5: about it period. I know his family is pissing him 1097 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 5: off too, but he refuses to confront them in any way. 1098 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 5: He just says that this is the way that they 1099 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: are and that I need to learn how to deal with. 1100 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 5: So here, I am about a month out for my 1101 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 5: wedding with pretty much zero enthusiasm for it. Things are 1102 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 5: awkward with my bridesmaid, my new family is pissing me off, 1103 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 5: and my fiance has pretty much shut down and refuses 1104 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 5: to deal with anything. I guess I updated because I 1105 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 5: just wanted a place to ramp. Does anyone have any 1106 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 5: advice on how to not make my friend's wedding hurt 1107 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 5: me so much? Any stories about my weddings that weren't 1108 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 5: the magical days that they thought they were, tips for 1109 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 5: dealing with fiances that refuse to deal with their insane families. 1110 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 3: But we have yet another update on this. 1111 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 5: Some of you may remember me from a thread that 1112 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 5: I post to here a while back about being upset 1113 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 5: over not being a bridesmaid. My wedding has come and 1114 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 5: gone beautiful day despite some drama and hiccups. 1115 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 3: But my friends is coming up and I have a 1116 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 3: new problem. 1117 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 6: Oh joy. 1118 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 5: The two women I'm no longer friends with are obviously 1119 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 5: planning her bridal shower and I'm invited. Interesting when I 1120 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 5: saw my old friend's name on the invite she's handling RSVPs, 1121 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 5: I panic a little bit. I called my friend and 1122 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 5: bridesmaid to make sure that it was okay for me 1123 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 5: to come. She said, of course, and that she didn't 1124 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 5: anticipate any drama. 1125 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 6: So this is my again. 1126 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 7: It's like Op's like, this was all high school like 1127 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 7: early twenties drama. 1128 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 6: Now they're in their early thirties. 1129 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1130 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Op's calling and saying, is it okay if I come? 1131 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 7: That is high school early twenties activities? Yeah, just go. 1132 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 7: Yeah that phone call and be like it's gonna be 1133 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 7: is there abrupt day? 1134 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 5: There's gonna be drama. Yeah, It's like, well, now there is. 1135 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 5: If you're gonna go about it this way, then. 1136 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 6: You're setting the stage for it. Just be an adult 1137 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 6: and go exactly. 1138 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 5: She claimed that the two friends really had no ill 1139 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 5: will about what happened and that the day should be fun. 1140 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 5: There will be a lot of other people there to 1141 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 5: hang out with, and it should be a good time. 1142 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 5: I asked if she thought that I should reach out 1143 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 5: to clear the air beforehand. She said it wasn't necessary. 1144 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 5: I asked her if she thought that it was a 1145 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 5: bad idea. She just repeated that it wasn't needed. I 1146 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 5: was feeling really anxious about it, so I decided to 1147 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 5: text both of the fhenh oh, my god. 1148 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: Ob. She just said, you didn't need to do that, 1149 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 3: ob doing my guy, My guy. 1150 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 7: You're like, I don't want it to be dramatic, and 1151 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 7: then meanwhile you do the most dramatic thing you could do. 1152 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's making it weird when it doesn't need to be. 1153 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 5: I said that I was married now and was excited 1154 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 5: to reconnect and that I hoped that we could put 1155 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 5: all of our differences aside and be together for the 1156 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 5: bride and celebrator. They responded with general glad you can come. 1157 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 5: Can't wait to celebrate the bride, and I was a 1158 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 5: little hurt. 1159 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 6: God, dang it, oh pe stop it. 1160 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 5: I had hoped for something that was more reassuring that 1161 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 5: the day would be okay and that there would be 1162 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 5: no weirdness. When I told my husband how I felt. 1163 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 5: He was shocked that I even texted them. 1164 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 3: He claimed it felt like that message was actually trying 1165 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 3: to stir up drama exactly. 1166 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I don't think what I said was inappropriate 1167 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 5: or rude. I don't want my friend's day to be 1168 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 5: ruined because of some petty drama, and I don't want 1169 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 5: to feel uncomfortable during that girl. 1170 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 7: It wasn't inappropriate or rude. It was just weird, that's 1171 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 7: all it was. It was weird. And it's not that 1172 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 7: you're trying to make it an issue again. 1173 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 6: It's that you've brought all that back up to the 1174 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 6: surface again. 1175 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 5: And what I'm realizing too is if she's saying it's 1176 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 5: high school early twenties drama, then it definitely didn't happen recently. 1177 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 3: If they're in their early thirty right, this happened a 1178 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,439 Speaker 3: while ago. 1179 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 5: So if it's if so much time has passed, you 1180 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 5: should maybe be like, from what I'm assuming. 1181 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 7: I'm she could be saying that. She could also be 1182 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 7: saying like the nature of it was very high school. 1183 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 3: Maybe, but it's like you are also in control of that. 1184 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, So not to put you on blast, but 1185 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 7: you were making a lot of poor decisions right now, 1186 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 7: ye just making things chill. 1187 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been hard enough seeing my friends post about 1188 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 5: all of the wedding fun that she's having. I just 1189 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 5: didn't want to walk into a bad situation. So Reddit's 1190 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 5: Am I the a hole for setting those texts? And 1191 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 5: do we have an answer for that. 1192 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 7: Kind of I mean not even you're not even a whole, 1193 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 7: You're just you're just goofy. 1194 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 5: Hey, you're just a goose. You're being an a hole 1195 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 5: to yourself. I feel not being a hole to them 1196 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 5: at all, because it's not really anything. 1197 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 7: Bad, but yeah, it's it's like it comes from this 1198 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 7: place of like, you know, you keep being an a 1199 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 7: hold to yourself because you expect these things to happen, 1200 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 7: where it's like you sent this thing where clearly I 1201 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 7: guess they don't really care anymore. 1202 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 6: Maybe they might not care anymore, and you're worry. 1203 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 1: That they're like, you know, harboring all this stuff. 1204 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 7: So you bring it up and it's like they don't 1205 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 7: care and you expected them to be like, oh my god, 1206 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 7: thank you for reaching out. It's so great that you 1207 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 7: said that. And it's like we are we're moving on 1208 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 7: and we love you, and it's like, you know your 1209 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 7: expectations will set you up for disappointment exactly. 1210 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 5: Like, even if they do care a little bit, I 1211 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 5: think they just still decided that they don't want to 1212 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 5: be friends. 1213 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: They're fine with that. You need to be too, because 1214 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, out of your control. They invited you 1215 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 3: to the shower. Yeah, that's huge, that's huge. 1216 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 5: But you know what would be huge of you to 1217 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 5: do is to check us out on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, 1218 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 5: or whatever your favorite podcast op is. Just search Okay 1219 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 5: Storytime and you can find full episodes with more stories 1220 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 5: just like this one. 1221 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 3: There is a little bit more. I'm just gonna jump 1222 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: right into it. 1223 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 5: There's a relevant comment from Okay. My husband thought it 1224 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 5: was over the top. He said that the tone I 1225 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 5: took made it seem like they somehow weren't there to 1226 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 5: celebrate the bride when they're her bridesmaids, and that I 1227 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 5: was making the event about myself tbh. My friend and 1228 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 5: bridesmaid has become a bit of a sore spot for 1229 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 5: the two of us. He's glad that she was a 1230 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 5: good bridesmaid and helped out a lot of the day 1231 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 5: of but he thinks that I'm trying too hard to 1232 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 5: be best friends. 1233 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 3: It's not like I don't have other friends. 1234 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 5: I just really missed the way things were in high 1235 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 5: school and feel like I'm missing out on having deep and. 1236 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 3: Meaningful friendships with a history. There are some comments. 1237 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 5: Commentary number one says, I feel like there's a lot 1238 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 5: more to the story of why she's no longer part 1239 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 5: of her old friend group, and honestly, she sounds exhausting. 1240 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 5: I feel a bit bad for her, though, as she's 1241 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 5: obviously lonely, and someone else responds she says she used 1242 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 5: to be dramatic, but it is clear that she is 1243 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 5: still dramatic and over the top a f Another person responds, 1244 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 5: I thought she was super young reading this, but she's 1245 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 5: in her thirties wishing for her high school friendships. Another 1246 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 5: comment term says her line she's an adult, so she 1247 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 5: could have said no to me about the wedding if 1248 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 5: she didn't want to be a part of it. Makes 1249 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 5: me wonder if she has said something like he's his 1250 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 5: own person and can make his own choices about who 1251 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 5: he has feelings for. After flirting with the guy that 1252 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 5: her friend had a big crush on, someone responds to that. 1253 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 5: In the same paragraph, she mentions the friend was having 1254 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 5: a soft no the whole time, and op would not 1255 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 5: take note for an answer, So she admits that she 1256 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 5: did strong arm her, but in the next sentence puts 1257 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 5: blame on her bridesmaid again. She literally cannot hold herself 1258 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 5: accountable for her part in the situation. Op doesn't really 1259 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 5: know how to take personal responsibility for anything. In my opinion, 1260 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 5: this whole saga reeks of playing the victim in that, 1261 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 5: and I'm positive there is important information that would have. 1262 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: Better illustrated that left out. 1263 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 5: Someone else comments, Jesus, the Opie sounds so ridiculously exhausting. 1264 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 5: Someone responds to that after the second update, I was thinking, girl, 1265 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 5: take the hit and cut your losses already, but it 1266 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 5: wasn't even a hint at that point. Secondhand pity was 1267 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 5: off the charts. Another comment says this is so infuriating 1268 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 5: to read because Opie gets so close to acknowledging that 1269 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 5: her behavior is the and then just goes and keeps 1270 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 5: doing it anyway, and then proceeds to ask the Internet 1271 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 5: why everyone has fed up with her. That's a great 1272 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 5: way to summarize that, but that is the end of 1273 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 5: that story is. 1274 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: The end of Oh my gosh. 1275 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 6: Sometimes to cut your losses, you really do. 1276 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 5: If she she's in her thirties and wants it to 1277 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 5: be like it was in high school, listen, I don't know. 1278 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 5: I probably I don't want to blame you, I guess 1279 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,479 Speaker 5: for wedding things to be how they were. But that's 1280 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 5: a long time. That's a long time to be, you know, 1281 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 5: hoping for the past. So I'm sorry you feel like 1282 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 5: you need to be that far in the past to 1283 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 5: feel okay right now. 1284 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 7: But bless about being in the past and where it's 1285 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 7: like having these friendships and connections that have lasted so long. 1286 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, people want that. 1287 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 5: So that's what I'm thinking, is like, I don't blame 1288 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 5: you for wedding, like you know, that strong connection that 1289 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 5: you had in the past, but this specific one is 1290 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 5: in the past. 1291 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: You gotta leave it there. 1292 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's John og Host here. We're gonna get 1293 00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: back to the stories. 1294 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 2: But here's a quick three minute break from as from 1295 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 2: our sponsors. 1296 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: I refuse to have animals the side of my home. 1297 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: My friend got offended. 1298 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 3: Why are you krilla, devil or something? 1299 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: I don't like dogs. I never have been fond of them, 1300 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: but I don't judge people who have dogs as long 1301 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: as they are responsible. Have a group of friends and 1302 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: we host events at our house like parties, potlucks, game nights, 1303 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: et cetera. About two months ago, my friend got a 1304 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: service dogs for her seizures and I was already planning 1305 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: on hosting a potluck. However, I didn't want a dog 1306 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: at my house. She shed a lot, so I decided 1307 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: to choose a camping area where we could all have 1308 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: fun and enjoy ourselves. It would be so messed up 1309 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: to deny my friend from coming over with the dog 1310 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: that she needs. By the way, this comes from walker 1311 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: Walk at a and if you want to make your 1312 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: own stories, go to our slash okay stories on sebredding. 1313 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: So this has been going on ever since my friend 1314 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: let's call her Sarah, got a service dog. Today was 1315 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: my turn to host, and one of my friends let's 1316 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: call him Jacob, suggested we do a game night. I 1317 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: told him that I would rather have events outside of 1318 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: my house, and well, we don't have anything to connect 1319 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: my ps four outside suggests maybe we could do a 1320 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 1: movie night instead and go out to the movies. Jacob 1321 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: was confused and asked why I stopped doing game nights 1322 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 1: at my house, and I explained that I don't want animals. 1323 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said pets. That was wrong on me. 1324 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: I didn't catch that in my house, let alone a 1325 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 1: dog that sheds knowing batter than I. But Sarah started 1326 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: to question me, asking if she's no longer welcomed in 1327 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: my house. I'm an ablest, and I told her I 1328 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: would rather host things outside of my house. If she 1329 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: is going to need a service dog. The times we 1330 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: all spin together are arranged in advance. I chose to 1331 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: do things away from my house so I wouldn't have 1332 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: to have the service dog in my house. If I 1333 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: had the type of arrangement that meant coming over to 1334 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: my house, I would make myself put up with a 1335 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: hairy situation. But I don't have to do this current arrangement. 1336 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Sarah was not having it and started calling me an 1337 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 1: ablest and unfair to her and her dog. She said, 1338 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: I've changed ever since she got her service dog, and 1339 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,439 Speaker 1: I was baffled by everything she was saying. We ended 1340 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: up not hosting anything, but it ended up being so 1341 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: awkward that everyone started to leave the group call honestly 1342 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 1: can't tell if I should be shamed of myself? Am 1343 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,240 Speaker 1: I the a hole at IT? Cause I explained it horribly. 1344 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: I want to thank Agreeable League three sixty six for 1345 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 1: allowing me to use their comment to clear out the 1346 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: confusion I cost for a lot of people. See the 1347 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,959 Speaker 1: comments below At IT two, I'm seeing several comments saying 1348 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: I should have told her beforehand. The thought of telling 1349 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: her that she and her dog aren't welcomed anymore therefore 1350 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: no one else in the group is just feels mean. 1351 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 1: But if anyone has suggestions on how I can word 1352 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: or future references, please feel free to do so. And 1353 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: I think we got Agreeable League's three six six's comment here. 1354 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: My friends only come over if I'm hosting something, But 1355 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: if they did come over to my house to just 1356 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: hang out, then yeah, I put up with a service 1357 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: dog in my house. I think this is what was 1358 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: causing a lot of the confusion people are having. It's 1359 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: like saying, if if she came over to hang I'd 1360 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: let the dog in instead. I believe you mean that 1361 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: the times you all spend together are arranged in advance, 1362 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: so you can choose to do things away from your house. 1363 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: So you don't have to have the dog in your house. 1364 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: If you had a different type of relationship, you wouldn't 1365 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: make yourself put up with a hairy situation, but you 1366 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: don't have to in your current type of relationship. Wow, 1367 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: I just made that as clear as mud didn't. I 1368 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: you're right, it's hard to put into words anyway. If 1369 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: you don't want a dog in your house, you don't 1370 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: have to. It seems like it's putting a strain on 1371 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: your relationship. Though maybe from how you worded it, combined 1372 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: with some new behavior you are exhibiting without realizing it 1373 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: that she has picked up on, she's become offended, not 1374 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: the a hole. You might need one on one with 1375 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: her to fix your relationship, just not at your house 1376 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: because a dog would have to come too. 1377 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 3: I listen, honestly thinking about that a lot more. 1378 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 8: I feel like, oh, P isn't really doing anything crazy wrong, 1379 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 8: you know, like he's not saying we can't hang out 1380 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 8: anymore because now you have a dog and I don't 1381 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 8: want your dog around. 1382 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 5: They're saying like, yeah, let's still do these group hangouts. 1383 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 5: I would just prefer to not have a dog in 1384 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 5: my house, so let's just do it somewhere else. 1385 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 3: You know, Like that's that seems perfectly acceptable. 1386 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: Because I mean planning it in advance. 1387 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and if this is usually like the host house, 1388 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 5: like I don't know, I get how that can probably 1389 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 5: feel uncomfortable, as was it Sarah that had the dog, 1390 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 5: That can probably feel uncomfortable being like, oh, it's because 1391 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 5: of me that we can't go to this house anymore. 1392 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 3: That would feel bad. 1393 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 5: So I maybe just a conversation with her one on one. 1394 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got an update throwaway here because people know 1395 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: my regular account. I'm honestly still shocked about everything that 1396 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: has happened. All was fine for a couple of days 1397 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: or so, thought. Sarah showed up uninvited. Never happened before, 1398 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: and I don't like uninvited guests, but I let decide 1399 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: this one time because she was my friend with her 1400 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: service dog, Golden Retriever and what I believe her mom's 1401 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: regular pet husky mix. So she brought two dogs. The 1402 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: husky was panting and trying to jump on me, but 1403 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: I would back away and slightly hold the door closed 1404 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: while poking my head out for now, Sarah was holding 1405 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: back from his collar. Keyword for now, I asked, her 1406 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: what's up, and she said she wanted to drop off 1407 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 1: some cookies for me. I smiled and thanked her because 1408 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was nice. She even made them herself. 1409 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: She said she also wanted to pick up something that 1410 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Ed part of the friend group off a were left here, 1411 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: like a keychain or small decoration. I'll call it a 1412 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: keychain because it looked like a keychain to me. Ed 1413 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: lives the farthest, so supposedly Sarah came over to pick 1414 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: it up for him and give it to him on 1415 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,479 Speaker 1: the day she hosts. What was her turn? I told 1416 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: her sure and asked how it looked. She walks around 1417 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 1: with both of the dogs, and I stopped her and asked, whoa, whoa, whoa, 1418 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing. She looked at me confused and said, 1419 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Ed's keychain. I told her if she 1420 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: wanted to personally get it herself, she cannot bring the 1421 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: big dog inside, only her service dog, so take that 1422 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: dog outside. She made a frowny face and said he's 1423 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: an emotional support dog. I told her that it is 1424 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: not the same and that I won't allow him inside. 1425 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: She pouted and said fine, just let me text ed 1426 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: and let him know, it'll take a little longer from there, 1427 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: she said, both of her leashes down and her husky 1428 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: went bonkers. Needed to say, I punted her out, and 1429 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: her mom's dog made a whole mess, including jumping on 1430 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: me and licking my face. I still can't get over 1431 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the fact that he broke the vase my mother, who 1432 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: was no longer with us, gave me. It was so beautiful. 1433 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: I've had it for twelve years. Sarah apologized, and I 1434 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: got her the key chain, which I could have easily 1435 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: brought her over and give it to ed that leaned 1436 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: around for a bit and took a shower. At night, 1437 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: I decided to snack on the cookie and a heck 1438 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: broke loose for a while. After eating him like I ate, 1439 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: like ten effing, started to swell up and struggle to breathe. 1440 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: So I went to look for my EpiPen I haven't 1441 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: used it in a long time, but my dumb butt 1442 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: cann't remember where I put it. But when I did, 1443 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I used it immediately and added to the hospital in 1444 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: case my allergy stayed once the epipines were off. 1445 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she poisoned him. 1446 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this woman, dude what. 1447 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and 1448 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 5: hope that it's an accident. 1449 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 3: No, if they've been friends for a while. 1450 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Come on, okay, okay, okay, before we keep going one 1451 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: and you know I don't like it whenever you have 1452 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 1: you bring your dogs to my house because you know 1453 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: which is husky. He's very hairy, and I don't like it. 1454 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: And you also know I have a peanut allergy. So 1455 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: you come over to my house with both dogs around, 1456 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: and you give me peanut cookies, course of course, And 1457 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: you're giving her the benefit of the doubt right now. 1458 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 5: Maybe she doesn't know about the allergyw You literally said 1459 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 5: they've been friends for a while. 1460 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, I know that's why I'm part of me. I 1461 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 3: want to believe that this is a mistake, that she 1462 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 3: didn't just straight up poison. 1463 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: Ope, No, there was malicious intent. It's a key chain, yeah, yeah, 1464 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: a keychaine. 1465 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 5: Well she didn't just stay outside, yeah, and just wait 1466 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 5: for him to get it or her. We don't actually 1467 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 5: know a peace gender, but I wish that she just 1468 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 5: would wait. 1469 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I got home with my medication and another EpiPen, which 1470 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I would bring with me at all times from now 1471 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: on after that traumatic nightmare. As upset as I was 1472 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: about Sarah being cold to me for even bringing her 1473 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: mom's emotional support dog to my house, I said, gave 1474 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: her the benefit of the doubt and thought she forgot 1475 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: that I had a nut allergy. I brought it up 1476 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 1: in text and told her what happened. She apologized and 1477 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: act all mortified. Conversation later shifted when she mentioned the 1478 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: whole wine. Can't I come in with my dogs? 1479 01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Bro? 1480 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: You literally try to kill me. 1481 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 3: Like we've talked about this so many times. 1482 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I repeated to her that her service dog can come in, 1483 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 1: not a pet dog. Became an argument. She dropped a 1484 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: bomb on me with a huge wall of text. In 1485 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the end, she said, and I quote copy paste, this 1486 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: is why I put pecans in your effing cookies. If 1487 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: you want to play ablest, then so will I. Oh 1488 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: smiley face. 1489 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. She did do it on purpose. 1490 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, you will be an ablest if 1491 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: you don't go to your favorite podcast platform type in 1492 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Okay story time and look at all the stories we 1493 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: have for you. Don't be an ablest like this, you. 1494 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 3: Guy, You can't accuse them that. 1495 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 6: Well. 1496 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: To me, it is the same anyways. 1497 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 3: Do it anyway? 1498 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: But can we. 1499 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 5: Sue Oh my gosh, yeah, honestly, like at least like 1500 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 5: she went to the hospital, you could sue for hospital bills. 1501 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 5: We've got text proof that she was doing this on 1502 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 5: purpose and totally lying about it. 1503 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it sounds like Opie's got a little touch 1504 01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: of OCD here from what I've seen. I mean maybe 1505 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: I know they don't like dog hair. 1506 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, but well, I mean you could just 1507 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 3: like I'm just. 1508 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Throwing stuff out of here. I'm I can't diagnose anybody. Yeah, actually, 1509 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: you know what I want to Now, I'm diagnosed and 1510 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: okay with this. So it's a respect thing. And and 1511 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: it seems like he's gone above and beyond to accommodate 1512 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: this person to be a part of the Frank group 1513 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: even though he's not comfortable with the dog in their house. 1514 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: This person is just throwing big words around that aren't real. 1515 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, like she they had this whole conversation about him 1516 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 5: not wanting like the dogs at all in his apartment, 1517 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 5: and then you know, she was like a ablest, you know, 1518 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 5: had that whole fight, and then it sounds like eventually 1519 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 5: now he's come around and he's like, you know what, fine, 1520 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 5: like your pet dog can come in. I understand that, 1521 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 5: Like I I respect you and your disability and what 1522 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 5: you need to support that and everything. Just know, like 1523 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 5: pet dog like that's that's the the only service dog. Yeah, 1524 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 5: the only reason it's allowed is because it's a you 1525 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 5: need it. You know, you don't need an emotional support 1526 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 5: pet dog like this. 1527 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Last little bit here a bit of content. Sarah was 1528 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: diagnosed with BPD. Please be aware that not everyone with 1529 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: BPD is like this, so I understand how she feels 1530 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: because I have BPD myself. This has gone way too far. 1531 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I've been contemplating on whether I should file claims or not, 1532 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: and I know that sounds stupid. We've been friends since 1533 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: middle slash high school, so of course she knows. But 1534 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 1: I've always seen her as a really close sister. But 1535 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: this friend wanted to harm me, and I heard so 1536 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: much that she went this far for revenge. Anyways, I'm 1537 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: taking legal action tomorrow and maybe I'll give an update 1538 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: about this, but as of now, I got screenshots and 1539 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,919 Speaker 1: have blocked her everywhere, and I'm still keeping a low 1540 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: profile so she doesn't delete the messages. 1541 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,919 Speaker 3: Hopefully, what my gosh, yeah, please do. I really would 1542 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 3: love to know. Oh my god, my god, because she 1543 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 3: didn't even try to harm you. 1544 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 5: She did, she absolutely did. She literally came in with 1545 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 5: the poison apple. It was like, hello, little lady, like 1546 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 5: you can I give you this apple for being such 1547 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 5: a sweet kind princess. Turns out that old Lady was 1548 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 5: actually the evil Witch or the evil Queen. 1549 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 3: So what the heck? Man? 1550 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 1: This account has been suspended. 1551 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 2: What