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Speaker 1: Syphilis. I'm Robert Evans hosted Behind the Bastards, the only

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Speaker 1: podcast that is introduced as badly as this podcast is

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Speaker 1: and also talks about terrible people. Um, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what else to say. Yeah, I shouted syphilis loud enough

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Speaker 1: to unsettle my neighbors. There used to be a lot

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Speaker 1: that that's the only way you can get that diagnosed.

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Speaker 1: You can't have a diagnosed, doesn't speaking volume, You gotta

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Speaker 1: shout syphilis. Look, this is a time of illness and disease,

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Speaker 1: So how better to express solidarity with everyone than shouting

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Speaker 1: the word syphilis as loud as I can. I think

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Speaker 1: that is the only way we can really show that

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Speaker 1: we care right now. We're all in this together. We're

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Speaker 1: all in this together. And musical style a hero, Jamie Robert.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen High School Musical? Um? I saw the

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Speaker 1: parody of it that was done by uh oh wait no,

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Speaker 1: there was a parody of Glee that they did on Community. No,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what High School Musical is other

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Speaker 1: than what the title tells me. Well, honestly, that's more

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Speaker 1: than I expected. I feel like introduced our guest Robert

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Speaker 1: just so thought, do you want to just introduce our guests. Yes,

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Speaker 1: our guest today or I'll do it for you is

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Speaker 1: Jamie Elizabeth Thompson Jefferson Loft. This yes only bitches betel

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Speaker 1: cast it's destroyer of mensa. Yeah, I had to be

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Speaker 1: introduced completely. What it was the dragon lady's name? What's

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Speaker 1: her name? I had? Jamie of the House loftis first

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Speaker 1: of that breaker of mensa. Yeah, frequent podcast guest, feminist

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Speaker 1: icon and my really good friend. I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: So we're all we're all stuck in our individual homes

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Speaker 1: right now, as everyone listening to this pretty much his

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Speaker 1: survival cheese. I did. I I had a breakfast of

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Speaker 1: have three boxes of Frenzy. Just yes, you are drinking

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Speaker 1: You're right. As someone on Twitter put it, everyone everyone's

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Speaker 1: is making sacrifices and changes to deal with this situation. Uh,

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Speaker 1: whether it's differences in drinking, eating powdered cheeses, recording podcasts remotely, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we all we've all had to change our lives. But

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Speaker 1: there's a special, select, elite group of people in this

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Speaker 1: And today we're going to do a timely episode about

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Speaker 1: the grifters of the Great coronavirus pandemic. Wow. Oh what

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Speaker 1: a privilege. Yeah, yeah, I collected as many as I

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Speaker 1: knife you gave me as any other room. I don't,

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighteen, as the Spanish flu burned its

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Speaker 1: and his his crew were sort of setting up the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus outbreak. Okay, because the truth is so nightmarish, it's

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Speaker 1: so excuse me again, it's so horrific. It's such a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: What can we do as a human race. I'm here

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Speaker 1: to tell you it's over for humanity. There will only

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Speaker 1: be lone survivors. Strategy must now shift. You can be

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Speaker 1: a survivor. We can help you survive. The information here

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Speaker 1: at in for Wars and and what I do can

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Speaker 1: help you survive. I'll give you some practical things in

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Speaker 1: the next segment. But maybe maybe it's an astonishing statement

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Speaker 1: to hear from me, the health Ranger. But it's over

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Speaker 1: for humanity as a whole. The masses will be slaughtered dope.

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Speaker 1: So that's the health Ranger. That's the health Ranger. He's

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Speaker 1: given you good health advice. Now obviously, uh you know

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Speaker 1: he he says that he's going to come back can

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Speaker 1: give people some some practical advice for survival, and that

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Speaker 1: practical advice turned out to mostly be buying Info Wars

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Speaker 1: bulk food packages. Um oh go figure. Yeah. And the

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00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: price of these increase. Every company is selling these doubled

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00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: and tripled their prices um. But even like by kind

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Speaker 1: of the standards of the industry, Jones started jacking his

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Speaker 1: prices up early uh and to outrageous levels, while repeatedly

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Speaker 1: claiming that other sellers were sold out and that his

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Speaker 1: storable foods were the only affordable option for families looking

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Speaker 1: to stock up. Um. Because his whole thing is lying

448
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: to his audience. Um. Info Wars jacked up their prices

449
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: at the same time as they sought to convince their

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Speaker 1: audience that society was on the verge of collapse. Because

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Speaker 1: that's just good business. And I'm gonna quote from a

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Speaker 1: media matters right up now. Since December, the info War

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Speaker 1: Store has more than doubled the price of its largest package,

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Speaker 1: info Wars Life Select one year. On December twenty one,

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Speaker 1: the package was being sold for four hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: three dollars and fifty cents. The price increased to fifteen

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Speaker 1: by January. By jan the price that increased to almost

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, and the page was displaying emergency survival

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Speaker 1: Foods coronavirus clearance sale. So that's ethical and good, right, Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I think that that is. I think that that shows

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Speaker 1: a lot of concern and kindness towards your fellow man.

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Speaker 1: Is I mean the health it's so it's so saith

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Speaker 1: from the health rangers mouth. I couldn't come up with

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Speaker 1: a better name for a fake health professional than the

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Speaker 1: health ranger, Like they really I can outdo that. That's brilliant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's no one more trustworthy than a ranger

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Speaker 1: when it comes to health that a ranger health. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the health Shariff would be the only name, like the

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Speaker 1: only more fucking sinister way of saying that. Yeah, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So rules, it rules, It does rule, Jamie, thank you

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Speaker 1: for agreeing with me. So uh. Coronavirus has been a

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Speaker 1: near constant topic of discussion on on info wars is

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Speaker 1: various broadcasts. According to a search of info wars is

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Speaker 1: online streaming platform band dot video, at least a hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five videos have been posted since January twenty

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Speaker 1: two that referenced the outbreak in their titles. Of these, seven,

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Speaker 1: we're published after info wars released its emergency Survival Foods

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Speaker 1: Coronavirus Clear and sale add for bulk food on January now.

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Speaker 1: In one February twelfth video, Alex was bold enough to

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Speaker 1: actually merge his two key coronavirus grifts, claiming that the

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Speaker 1: natural components in certain quality food stuffs and other info

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Speaker 1: wars products can quote easily be used to combat viral infection.

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Speaker 1: Then he attempted to sell his audience more dried food, saying,

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Speaker 1: I am very sad about this virus and very sad

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Speaker 1: about the bioweapons and things that are going on, but

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Speaker 1: it is an opportunity for people to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: the products we have. We got food, we got guts,

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Speaker 1: we got red blood. Kick your ass if you attack

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Speaker 1: us with me. It's religious not to screw you over hell. Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is a matter. This is a grifting master class.

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Speaker 1: He's not bad at grifting, you have really good at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really in the Malcolm Gladwell approach to being an

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Speaker 1: evil grifter. He's put in the ten. What's impressive about

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Speaker 1: that is that Malcolm Gladwell has also done the Malcolm Gladwell.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you figured it out? How do you

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Speaker 1: think I gotta get a drift going. I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: people to buy dried beans and go foraging. And there's

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Speaker 1: no profit in that. I need we need to there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of money and exposing grifts. You really

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Speaker 1: have to establish your own I we need to get

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Speaker 1: like a branding deal going on with I don't know,

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Speaker 1: get on the I I have faith that Lazy Mosley

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Speaker 1: is going to find a good grift in all of this,

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Speaker 1: She'll figure it out. Yeah, that's a good option. I

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Speaker 1: was considering just starting a militia um and charging dues?

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Speaker 1: Can we so if you can, we start a militia.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that allowed? Do you think? Do you

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Speaker 1: think corporate is going to be cool with the militia?

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Speaker 1: No comment? Okay, Well send me and you will be

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Speaker 1: a member of my militia and that will improve your Sorry,

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Speaker 1: don't make five dollars off of starting a militia. If so,

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Speaker 1: they will happily started militia. If if every listener of

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00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: this podcast just sent me five dollars, I could fund

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00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the militia. Oh for sure, you can go fund me

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Speaker 1: a militia. At any point time, I could buy two

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Speaker 1: tanks for Alex Jones as one, and we could really

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Speaker 1: we could really bear down on this. Let's go for people.

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Speaker 1: Do you know is Jim Baker Jim Baker Jim Baker's

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Speaker 1: Jim Baker those um? Is he still selling those like

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Speaker 1: buckets of slop? Yeah? Sure is Baker? Well I'm out

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00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: now so freaky Yeah no, and they're bad both. Like again,

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Speaker 1: this is something I am a nerd about both Alex

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00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Jones and Jim Baker's survival foods are renowned within survival

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Speaker 1: nut jobs as being some of the worst quality products. Like,

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Speaker 1: they're just there. They cost as much as Mountain House,

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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: and mountain House actually tastes good. Um, it's terrible. It's

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00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: terrible products. Don't buy them. Don't buy any of them

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00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: right now. Don't buy this. Let make your own slop

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00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: bucket bucket. Everyone listening right now is more than capable

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00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: of making their own slop bucket. They don't need. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the only real survival food you need is to chew

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00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: up all of the food currently in your fridge, spit

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00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: it into a bucket and freeze it, and then you're

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00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: good to go. You can just baby birded back into

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Speaker 1: your mouth. You can. That's the empowerment that I need.

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I can be my own mommy bird chew up my

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Speaker 1: food then eat it back later. That's as it falls. Yeah,

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00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: your that is the goop is about to come into this, Jamie.

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00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, we can talk more about Alex Jones, but

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00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: there's way too much grifter ground to cover here, So

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Speaker 1: let's mosey on over to Amazon dot Com, which has

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00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: itself become a hub of coronavirus grifting so expansive it

543
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: puts even Info Wars to shame. See the Kindle Direct

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00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Publishing service give sellers the ability to publish any e

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Speaker 1: book they want and even paperback books for free in

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00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: less than five minutes. This system services so many authors

547
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: that there's simply no time for any human monitoring. Books

548
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: are printed on demand and the whole processes as automated

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00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: as can be. Now, that's not an issue for all

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00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: of the people who want to self publish the erotic

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00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: novellas and fan fiction epics that they're writing, you know,

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00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: during their quarantine. And in fact, it's great for ghost. Hey,

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00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein's ghost and I have a really cool Google

554
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: doc cope and we're working at it with Berney Sanders

555
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: and it is horny as fuck. A so uh, this

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Speaker 1: is not Yeah, so it's fine for a lot of people. Um,

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00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: but the fact that this is completely automated does create

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00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: an issue when paired with an unspeakably contagious viral epidemic

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Speaker 1: that threatens to shatter the economy forever. I'm gonna quote

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Speaker 1: now from a rite up on the website un dark

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Speaker 1: dot org who kind of revealed this underground industry that

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Speaker 1: just sprung up around coronavirus quote. Since late January, hundreds

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Speaker 1: of titles related to COVID nineteen, as the disease caused

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Speaker 1: by the virus is known, have come up for sale online,

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Speaker 1: many of which appear to be written under falser misleading names.

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Speaker 1: One series of books, which includes Coronavirus one oh one

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Speaker 1: Everything you Should Know to Avoid Illness and Protect Yourself

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Speaker 1: from the Wuhan Outbreak and Coronavirus and Face Masks the Truth,

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Speaker 1: claimed to be co authored by Dr Zoe Gottlieb. Another

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Speaker 1: two books, which were available Wednesday but have since been removed,

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Speaker 1: listed their author as Dr Sanjay Gupta, who was said

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Speaker 1: to hold a medical degree along with tutiple master's degrees.

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Speaker 1: The biographical details did not match those of sin in

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Speaker 1: chief medical correspondent by the same name. Yet another publication

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Speaker 1: titled Coronavirus Disease Leave Alone. He's my coronavirus man, Harsh Monday,

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00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. That's kind of brilliant, though to get

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Speaker 1: a decoy sang in the fake Yeah, that's pretty great.

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00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: It's not dumb. Yet another publication titled Coronavirus Disease A

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Speaker 1: Practical Guide for Preparation and Protection listed the U S

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Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services h h S as

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Speaker 1: its lead author and a non existent agency, the U.

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Speaker 1: S Department of Health, as a co author. It has

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Speaker 1: also been removed by Amazon, but remains available to order

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Speaker 1: from Barnes and Noble. Representatives of jh S did not

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Speaker 1: respond to multiple emails seeking comment regarding the book. So

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Speaker 1: that's cool. This is a cool industry, right, that's a

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00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: neat little thing. Is very cool. I like cool and good. Yeah. Now.

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00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: This undark write up notes that similar self publishing services

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Speaker 1: exist with Barnes and Noble, Walmart, and a number of

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Speaker 1: other companies. In fact, Barnes and Noble promises to have

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Speaker 1: your self published work available for sale in less than

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes. So that's good too. One particularly egregious example

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Speaker 1: on their site is the totally credible book Coronavirus Colon

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Speaker 1: wuhan Coronavirus Colon All Secrets Revelli ad they misspelled revealed.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait uh, that's good. I think that

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Speaker 1: this is good. This is good. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, fast forward a little bit in the future.

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Speaker 1: This will all be very fun once everything is Revelli

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Speaker 1: ad in the future. Yeah, it will be Revelli AD

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00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: soon and we'll realize how incredible this book was. For

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Speaker 1: just eight this title will provide you with quote, the

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00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: history and ways to combat it, spread and prevent another epidemic.

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00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: So that's good. And these viral pandemic tie in works

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00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: get a lot weirder too. Outside of these these big

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00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: hitters we've named, there's also equine coronavirus everything a horse

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00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: lover needs to know, and canine coronavirus everything a dog

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: lover needs to know. Okay, honestly I am not disinterested

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Speaker 1: in canine coronavirus. Well you should be, because these books

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: are written by a nonsense person. Uh. The authors claimed

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Speaker 1: to be Malick Hill, PhD, who no one can find

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00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: any real evidence or information about. But he also has

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Speaker 1: books on how to protect your fish and rabbits from coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: In addition to this, he's the author of the critical

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Speaker 1: work how to Buy a House for literally zero dollars, which,

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Speaker 1: given the rent crisis we're hitting, you know, maybe people

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Speaker 1: should look into Oh my god, yeah, holyish it literally

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Speaker 1: zero dollars. That's a deal. You know, that is a

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Speaker 1: good deal. I mean, I know, I mean there's been

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Speaker 1: there's been some people reclaiming empty houses, but I have

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00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: a feeling it's not the same thing. No, No, because

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Speaker 1: they got to spend money to like drive their get selene.

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Speaker 1: You know. Bolt cutters. All these things cost money, literally

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Speaker 1: zero dollars. They're not first. I mean, why don't they

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Speaker 1: should send us two thousand dollars in bolt cutters? The

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00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: government just males expensive bolt cutters. Yea stimulus package, burn

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Speaker 1: them all, good fucking luck. Here's a check in some

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Speaker 1: bolt cutters. See you in hell Like I would respect

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Speaker 1: that more than what's called. We can't pass a meaningful stimulus,

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Speaker 1: so we're sending bolt cutters in a nine millimeter to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Figure it out. Fantastic, feels good to laugh. It does,

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Speaker 1: it does. So this is all great. Um. Also great

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Speaker 1: is the recent work of beauty influencer Michelle Fawn our

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Speaker 1: next Grifter. Now. Michelle is a thirty two year old

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur with a net worth of around fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: She has million YouTube subscribers and two million Instagram followers.

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Speaker 1: So that's great. Yeah, I feel like I've I've heard

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Speaker 1: of this person, I've never watched their videos. Now, the

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Speaker 1: beauty industry entered a significant contraction at the start of

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Speaker 1: this year. Cosmetics and all that stuff like, the industry

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Speaker 1: started to kind of peel back a bit is even

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Speaker 1: before the outbreak really reached it's it's it's peak. Um

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Speaker 1: and Fan recognized that early and decided to pivot to

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Speaker 1: a new business. Earlier this year, she announced her plan

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Speaker 1: to create a podcast called Baby Steps. Quote from Michelle,

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Speaker 1: It's essentially to help people take steps into adulthood, buying bitcoin,

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Speaker 1: how to store it, what to do with it. You know,

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Speaker 1: the key thinks about it. Now she became a bunker

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Speaker 1: survival She pivoted from YouTube booty to beauty to being

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Speaker 1: a bunker survivalist. No just bitcoin, oh just a big

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Speaker 1: so she's just a winkle boss. Now. My viewers are

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Speaker 1: hungry for more than makeup and skincare. They want to

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Speaker 1: know how to protect their purchasing power. Today I made

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Speaker 1: an Instagram post telling my followers to buy the bitcoin,

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Speaker 1: dip and then hold. In mid March, is the panic

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Speaker 1: over coronavirus began to crest here in the United States,

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Speaker 1: Fan posted a picture of her Essential Oil diffuser with

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Speaker 1: the caption, if you are burning anti viral Essential oils

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Speaker 1: around you. This will kill all of the virus before

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Speaker 1: it enters your system. There's no such thing as anti

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Speaker 1: viral essential oils. This will not work. Don't do this,

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Speaker 1: um which a lot of people told Fan. There was

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Speaker 1: an enormous backlash, and to her credit, Michelle Fan eventually

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Speaker 1: responded by sheepishly claiming she had not intended to mislead anyone.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a great response, but it makes

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Speaker 1: her by far the most honest and decent person we're

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Speaker 1: going to cover in today's episode by a wide margin.

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Speaker 1: And this brings me, Oh yeah, Jamie, I well, I

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Speaker 1: just beauty. YouTube like is exclusively grifters. I think of

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Speaker 1: like YouTube. There there's a YouTube boot tube. They Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're exclusively grifted. I feel like Maggie may Fish has

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Speaker 1: done a lot of good work on like documenting like

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Speaker 1: what the extent of those grip those griphs are. But

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Speaker 1: this is the first Corona graph I've heard. This is

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Speaker 1: a treat. Yeah, and she was clearly just dipping her

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Speaker 1: toes into the Corona gript And I think her followers

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Speaker 1: are kind of mainstream enough that it it backfired on

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Speaker 1: her and she I hopefully has peeled back from this um.

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Speaker 1: But you know who else did the same thing even

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Speaker 1: more sketchuly whom well you brought her up a little earlier,

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Speaker 1: our old friend Gwyneth Paltrow, the fifth Hound of the Apocalypse.

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Speaker 1: Now on March thirteen, gwyn Path is that what people

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Speaker 1: call her her? And we try not to call her anything.

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Speaker 1: If we can avoid it, we dare not speak her name.

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Speaker 1: We'll call her six six six the Beast. On March thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: she posted a now deleted picture to the Goop Instagram page,

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty innocuous on the surface, Gwyneth herself

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Speaker 1: in a white shirt, a skirt and sneakers with the caption.

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Speaker 1: Most days you'll find g P wearing g label with

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Speaker 1: a pair of sneakers, which is one reason we make

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Speaker 1: it an annual tradition to put together a fresh sneaker

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Speaker 1: guide each year. Get ready to cover some serious ground.

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Speaker 1: Run don't walk. First off, just editing note, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to say that it's an annual tradition you do

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Speaker 1: each year. Not necessary, it's a bit redundant. Yeah. Second note,

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Speaker 1: no one is going to call her g P. And

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Speaker 1: if they do, that is who is a society? We

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Speaker 1: should blame for the coronavirus epidemic is people who refer

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Speaker 1: to Gwyneth Paltrow as GP. I'm the fifth out of

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Speaker 1: the apocalypse beast. All of these are fair terms of

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Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow, But okay, but that that other than the

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Speaker 1: you know, the the errors and grammar. Um, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty unproblematic Instagram post, especially considering the kind of products

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Speaker 1: Goop has has sold. There's nothing wrong with wanting to

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Speaker 1: sell people at khaki shirt and sneakers, But it turns

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Speaker 1: out that skirt cost four hundred and fifty dollars and

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Speaker 1: those sneakers were four hundred dollars. And since this was

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Speaker 1: posted as cities around the US began to contemplate radical

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Speaker 1: quarantine procedures and millions found themselves instantly out of work.

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Speaker 1: People got kind of pisted at Gwyneth Paltrow for selling

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Speaker 1: nine dollars worth of skirt and shoes, even though this

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Speaker 1: is what she always does. It just it was suddenly grosser, right,

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Speaker 1: um So even Goop fans got angry at her. One

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Speaker 1: response on her Instagram read, I think it's irresponsible to

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Speaker 1: post this as a worldwide pandemic is going on. You

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Speaker 1: have a great platform around health. Now would be the

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Speaker 1: time to expand on that, which is an incredible post

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Speaker 1: and an incredible snapshot of where we are in America.

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Speaker 1: Because he's simultaneously right, he should be angry at this

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Speaker 1: soulless gool hawking nine D skirt shoes combos while a

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Speaker 1: quarter of the country finds itself edging towards breadlines. But

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Speaker 1: it's also baffling that his anger is that she's not

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Speaker 1: doing more to promote health products, because it's just never really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of it's a bit of a

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Speaker 1: bummer too, because you're just like, oh, that is like

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Speaker 1: what her followers feel is like the health and wellness,

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Speaker 1: like she will have their best interests at heart. Like

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a bummer. I was honestly shocked and

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Speaker 1: appalled that Gwyneth was not um in the imagined video.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Chuk your Instagram dm s for Goop's latest posting

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Speaker 1: from the last two hours. I'd love for you to

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Speaker 1: describe that to Robert Evans before we go to an

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Speaker 1: ad brick imagine possessions. I wonder if you can. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the post. Oh god, I don't like the visual

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Speaker 1: The visual is really like oversaturated picture of someone putting

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Speaker 1: pressure on another person's hand with their hands, and it

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Speaker 1: says the following. Anyone can benefit from ACU pressure and

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Speaker 1: anyone can do it, says acupuncturist Mary Jane Newman, who

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Speaker 1: gave us the best breakdown and ACU pressure points and

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Speaker 1: how to best activate them at home. So it's just

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Speaker 1: it's something that has nothing to do with anything. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: millions of people are locked in their home and there's

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Speaker 1: an acupuncturist who's like, hey, ever heard of me? Is that? Basically?

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Speaker 1: It's Sophie Like she's basically her advice is basically like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you want to be really good advice right now? How

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Speaker 1: about you touch another person's hands? Yeah? Literally, it's by pressure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I'm going I'm licking a

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Speaker 1: lot of door knobs these days? Is that? Am I

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be doing that? Robert? If you're eating

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Speaker 1: survival cheese, you can like a door knob. I think

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Speaker 1: that that's the going exchange. But that's my hobby to sacrifices.

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Speaker 1: Want to know what you should make your hobby? Doing

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00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: the ad break just a thought? Remember? Are there more products?

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00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: There are always more products and maybe even a new service. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and we're back. We're back, and we are talking about goops.

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Speaker 1: So I read one post from the Goop instagram. Uh,

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Speaker 1: here's another. Come on, Goop, when you said g P

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Speaker 1: if I thought at first you were referring to doctor,

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Speaker 1: please use your platform in a more sensitive way. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's the time to think about buying trainers

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Speaker 1: when people are struggling to buy day to day supplies.

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Speaker 1: We don't want doom and gloom, but maybe a post

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Speaker 1: on boosting your immune system, staying healthy, etcetera. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: what they get angry at and also what they want

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Speaker 1: from Gwyneth And unfortunately, yeah, Gwyneth Paltrow was only too

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Speaker 1: happy to do this. And I'm gonna quote now from

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine. Yeah. Goop is known for Yoni eggs

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00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: and the promotion of potentially dangerous treatments like colonic irrigation.

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Speaker 1: Also so addresses COVID nineteen on its website. Some of

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Speaker 1: its advice is perfectly legitimate. Wash your hands, disinfect your

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Speaker 1: filthy phone, get vaccinated, which prevents other potential illnesses if

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Speaker 1: not COVID nineteen. But this being goop. The page also

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Speaker 1: highlights entries on the flu prevention properties of elderberry chew

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Speaker 1: scientifically there are none, and an interview with a holistic

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Speaker 1: practitioner about what to do to prevent colds and flues.

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Speaker 1: Among her recommendations, the goop, wellness balls and the air

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Speaker 1: vitamin regimen which it best offers. No measures balls, you

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Speaker 1: don't you don't want to take? What drop some wellness

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Speaker 1: balls down your throat? I unfortunately know what the wellness

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Speaker 1: balls are. Are the wellness balls, because I imagine the

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Speaker 1: wellness balls shoot out that silver goop that coats the

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Speaker 1: back of your throat and a sticky fiscus. You know,

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Speaker 1: the drifts, drifts, real slow down at So I have

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Speaker 1: a dark past history where I used to be on

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Speaker 1: a series that tried out um goop stuff to see

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Speaker 1: if it actually worked. So I've tried a fair amount

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Speaker 1: of this stuff. I've done the Yoni egg number of times,

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Speaker 1: I've done the I've done the calonic irrigation that hurts,

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Speaker 1: I've done I mean, I've done a ton of group stuff.

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Speaker 1: None of it has like, I don't know, like it's

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Speaker 1: it all is very uncomfortable, and none of it has

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Speaker 1: resulted in anything positive, and if I had actually had

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Speaker 1: to pay for it, I would be very angry. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And the Wellness ball it falls right into that that category.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, at this point it's like hack to

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Speaker 1: have to be like, don't do goop ship, but there

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00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: is still such a big audience for it. It's like

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00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: it sucks and it's like not nice people that are

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Speaker 1: getting grifted into a ball full of like I mean

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Speaker 1: literal goop that costs you know whatever seven bucks to manufacturer,

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Speaker 1: and then how much are they charging for it? I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess what some people spend on a car payment. Well, right,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's yeah, it's infuriating and terrible. Uh

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Speaker 1: and in a sane society would be criminal. Um, but

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Speaker 1: it's not. And so Gwyneth Paltrow is gonna gonna be

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Speaker 1: fine throughout all this. She's going to handle this great um.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Gwyneth, she has a lot to do

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Speaker 1: with the story of our next grifter. And Jamie, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to need you to batten down your hatches and

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Speaker 1: strap in to hear this person's name, because I get

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Speaker 1: a visceral reaction from just reading this name. Amanda chantal Bacon,

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Speaker 1: founder of moon j I hate moon Juice? Can we

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Speaker 1: start again? Can we start again? And then you just

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Speaker 1: like pause after every name, just to give people a

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Speaker 1: real chance to take it in. Amanda Okay Bacon, the

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Speaker 1: founder of moon Juice ye cream blocks away from the

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Speaker 1: original moon Juice, and I'm thrilled to announce that I

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Speaker 1: did burn it to the ground right before this recording,

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Speaker 1: Comrade loftus making the revolution happen. So just a few

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Speaker 1: days ago, Amanda Chantal Bacon posted this to her list

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Speaker 1: to her Instagram, clearly inspired by the coronavirus panic and

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Speaker 1: it's it's moon Juice branded their logos right up on

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Speaker 1: the top of this list The ten things I'm doing

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Speaker 1: for immunity right now in the morning, dry brushing to

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Speaker 1: stimulate limp flow and then getting a cold shower too.

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Speaker 1: Taking super U t M daily to keep calm elevated.

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Speaker 1: Cortisol directly affects the immune system. Frequently. Is that moon juice? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the products that she sells, one of

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Speaker 1: the juices or powders or whatever. Three frequently, washing my

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Speaker 1: hands and my children's hands for keeping the air in

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Speaker 1: my home clean with a Heppe air filter. This has

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Speaker 1: been a game changer for my respiratory system. Five taking

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Speaker 1: vitamin C three times a day. Six adding power dust

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Speaker 1: and spirit dust to my morning tonics. These adapted genic

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Speaker 1: blends are particularly supportive of the immune system. Seven leaving

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Speaker 1: clothes at the front door after schoolwork, travel, and hopping

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Speaker 1: right in the shower. So just strip naked right at

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Speaker 1: the inner to your house, shift, then take some get

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Speaker 1: some of that dust in you. Oh yes, if you're not,

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Speaker 1: if you don't think that the Girl Bosses are riding

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Speaker 1: in on the apocalypse, you have to wake the funk up. No,

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Speaker 1: that is what they've been waiting to do their whole

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Speaker 1: Girl Boss lives. Yes. Eight drinking green juice, our elderberry

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00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: defense tonic and lots of water. Nine prioritizing sleep and

844
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: taking magneesiome, which is another one products. You know. I

845
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: think we can all see how that's spelled. Yeah, so

846
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: it's it's it's great love Amanda chantal bacon Um, who

847
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: I do not love. Uh No, I mean as someone

848
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: who literally burned her building to the ground this morning

849
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: for you, It's it's safe to say I also don't

850
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: love her. That's so I mean morning tonics. Not enough said, yeah,

851
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: tonics that you're selling like that would have not felt

852
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: People taking Spirit Dusk Tonics to ward off the flu

853
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: would have sounded normal if I had brought it up

854
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: as part of the nineteen eighteen pandemic grift. But this

855
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: is happening right now. I mean, honestly, bringing like the

856
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: word tonics into the mix at all feels kind of shortsighted.

857
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel, even for the person newest to

858
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: the snake oil realm, the word tonic just seems to

859
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: be one to avoid across the board. The only acceptable

860
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: use of the word tonic is if you are from

861
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: New England and you enjoy a Moxie tonic. Um even

862
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: it's not acceptable to be from New England. So oh well,

863
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm and I was canceled years ago, so it's fine.

864
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I was specifically talking about you, Jamie. Yeah, so I'm sorry.

865
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you had to find out this way. Uh.

866
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: Spirit dust and power dust are two of Bacon's most

867
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: popular products in her plant based alchemy line. Both include

868
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: a variety of ingredients like chaga and rishi and maka

869
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: that have absolutely no proven or even vaguely suggested benefits.

870
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: Against COVID nineteen, but there is no law against claiming

871
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: your products help immunity, and a lot of very dumb,

872
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: rich people will spend thirty nine in a small cylinder

873
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: of spirit dust in order to feel like they're doing something, anything,

874
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: to protect themselves. These people will be glad to know

875
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: that moon Juice is still open for pickups and deliveries

876
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: during the California lockdown, very happy to let everyone know that, well,

877
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: not anymore. They are still open to be burnt to

878
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: the ground. That's right, there is there. I unfortunately, there

879
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: was an employee that I had to get out when

880
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: I was burning it down, and she's still out in

881
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: the front. And I'm you know, I'm in solidarity with

882
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: with workers, so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna, you know,

883
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: burn the building down. You can continue to work, you know. Yeah,

884
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: that's thank you for supporting workers while you burn down

885
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: their workplaces in order to stop the spread of disinformation. Jamie,

886
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 1: you think you think that moon Juice is gonna stop

887
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: just because they're building burned down, You've got another thing coming, Okay.

888
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: So now, if you know me, my dear listeners, you

889
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: know there's no way I could hear a name like

890
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: Amanda Chantel Bacon and learn this person is selling power

891
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: dust and not want to know more about her. And

892
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: this is going to get a little bit off the

893
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: coronavirus topic. But this is just gonna make you so angry, Jamie,

894
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: that I have to read you some selections of this articles.

895
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: I found a New York Times article written by Molly

896
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Young that's a profile on Amanda Chantel Bacon, published back

897
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen, and it's absolutely fascinating. Molly's recollection

898
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: of her first visit to a Moon Juice store in

899
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is really worth reading. Quote. I spotted a glass

900
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: jar labeled brain dust. It has this kind of packaging

901
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: that signals discrete, luxury, minimalist, matt label custom type, the

902
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: word organic. A two point two ounce jar cost fifty

903
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: five dollars. This adapted genic potion lights up your brain

904
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: and increases mental flow. The label said. Neuron velocity and

905
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: vision are fine tuned by toning the brain waves, in

906
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: particularly the alpha waves that connect to creativity. No, no, uh,

907
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good. Yeah. So she finds

908
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: out that this is sold by Moon Juice, and so

909
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: she winds up looking into moon Juice and the company

910
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: gets on their newsletter, and so she receives an ad

911
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: for the moon Juice Cookbook, which included a biography of

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: Amanda Shantal Bacon, who described as a powerful influencer in

913
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: the wellness space. This ad mentioned that moon Juice has

914
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: come to prominence when it had been featured on Goop,

915
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: and Bacon had made something called sex bark in a

916
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: video with Gwyneth Paltrow herself sex I also appreciate the

917
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: way that you said it sex bar, sex bars. You

918
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: can't say it any other way. It's illegal, you know. I.

919
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: Sex bark is new to me. I don't know what

920
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: sex bark is, and I'm intrigued. Is it in bark

921
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: that makes you horny? Yeah? I think so, Jamie. That's

922
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: the only thing it could possibly be um, which we

923
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: know we can narrow down that it's not birch, which

924
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: is by far the least sexy kind of tree. Hey,

925
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: sex bark is the new x V vapor up in

926
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: that your groa might have it and it'll make you horny.

927
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: You were that baffling line, Jamie. All of this was

928
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: enough to convince Molly Young that an article needed to

929
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: be written about Amanda Chantel Bacon, so she went to

930
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: meet her quote. Growing up in New York City, she

931
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: was a sickly child bronchial stuff whose parents took her

932
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: to doctor's I got pumped through the Western medicine chain

933
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: without satisfactory results. Of course, nothing helped. One day, she

934
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: went shopping with her family at a downtown health food store,

935
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: where the story goes, an ir vetic doctor visiting from

936
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: India overheard Bacon coughing. The doctor came over and posed

937
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: some questions, very typical iro vetic ones, like how often

938
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: do you poop? And took the child's pulse. After examining

939
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: Bacon's tongue, the man provided her mother with a list

940
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: of forbidden foods cow's milk, wheat, and white sugar, among others.

941
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: Bacon stopped eating gluten at age four and became a

942
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: vegetarian and around seven. She's aware that these biographical details

943
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: invite ridicule, but Bacon doesn't care if people make fun

944
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: of her. She's used to it and anyway. Hers was

945
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: a challenging childhood. I was told growing up that I

946
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: had learning disabilities and mental illness. That was all the

947
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: rage in the nineties. She reflected on her past calmly.

948
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: I came from a family that was like, yes, what

949
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: after the doctor says, is right, just take the pills.

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Bacon's in parentheses. Bacon's mother was the CEO of the

951
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: fashion company Betsy Johnson, and her father was a musician. Oh,

952
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: I love this is like, this is like a level

953
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: of anapotism that it's a very gentle level because you

954
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: have all this one to one nepotism, you have all

955
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: these dynasties in certain industries, but the CEO of Betsy

956
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: Johnson to the founder of Moon Juice is a very

957
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: gentle form of adjacent nepotism that I really just appreciate.

958
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: You can't not respect is the wrong word, but it's

959
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: cool and good. Of course, your Betsy Johnson mom is

960
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: going to support your endeavor to start the worst business ever.

961
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what the irony of her vegetarianism being

962
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: named Bacon. It's like a great dad joke in there. Yeah,

963
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: there is there. Take it away, Take it away. Dad's

964
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: Amanda Chantal Bacon is great. Uh, And I am so

965
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: happy that I found out about her. And all of

966
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: these grifters are very entertaining Jamie. But I would be

967
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: remiss if I did not point out at the end

968
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: of this that the greatest grifters are not the people

969
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: selling silver toothpaste that will cure your coronavirus, or silver

970
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: goop that will cure your coronavirus, or buckets of food

971
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: or anti viral essential oils or moon dust or whatever

972
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: the hell Paltrow was trying to push. No, the greatest

973
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: grifters in the coronavirus epidemic are our own Congress people.

974
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: I was wondering, so this is not going to be

975
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: a comprehensive ovary of what's going on, because this story

976
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: is like breaking as we're talking about it, Like more

977
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: stuff came out today, um so, and more stuff will

978
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: have come out by the time you hear this episode. Uh.

979
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: But the information started to come out the night that

980
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: I wrote this actually, which was the Friday or Thursday,

981
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: the nineteenth of March. Uh. That Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman

982
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Richard Burr, a Republican senator from North Carolina, had unloaded

983
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: his holdings and dozens of stuff of stocks that lost

984
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: a huge amount of their value. And he did it

985
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: right before the start of the coronavirus panic. Um. He

986
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: and his wife sold between six d twenty thousand and

987
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: one point seven million dollars in publicly traded stocks on

988
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: February and bought no new positions, so they just straight

989
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: up cashed out. UM. Most of the companies he cast

990
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: out on were major corporations that were hit hard by

991
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: the collapse of the stock market. UM and reporting from

992
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: open secrets dot org and pro Publica and a number

993
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: of other organizations has revealed that at the same time

994
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: as he was selling off all this stock, he was

995
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: publicly expressed in confidence to the American people of the U. S.

996
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Government's ability to fight the coronavirus and stop it from

997
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: turning into a pandemic state side. UM literally like a

998
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: scene from Veep, just like getting off stage from reassuring

999
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: people and then like calling like dump the stocks, like yeah, yeah,

1000
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: it's unbelievably gross. And while he was telling the American

1001
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: people in public that things were going to be fine,

1002
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: he was privately warning in closed door meetings with other

1003
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: lawmakers and major funders of senatorial and congressional campaigns that

1004
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: this virus was quote much more aggressive in its transmission

1005
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: than anything we have seen in recent history. And this

1006
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: is in late February, when he's still very publicly being

1007
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: like we got this. Um, so that's super cool. Uh

1008
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: and good? Uh yeah. Um. For like an example of

1009
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff Burr was putting out while he

1010
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: was selling off all of his assets, On February seven,

1011
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: he wrote an opinion piece for Fox News with Senator

1012
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Alexander, Republican from Tennessee, that the US is better

1013
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: prepared than ever before to deal with a health crisis. Um.

1014
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: So that's great. Um, that's okay. Well, as long as

1015
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: our as long as our public officials are still fucking up,

1016
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: how bad could things possibly be? Yeah? Yeah. So on February,

1017
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: when the US had fifteen confirmed cases of COVID nineteen

1018
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: and President Trump said it's going to disappear like a

1019
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: miracle very soon, Burr attended a luncheon at a social

1020
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: club called the Capitol Hill Club, and he delivered this

1021
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: message quote, There's one thing I can tell you about this.

1022
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything

1023
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: we've seen in recent history. It's probably more akin to

1024
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighteen pandemic. Um. So that's great. Uh. Thirteen

1025
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: days before the State Department began to warning its travel

1026
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: to Europe in fifteen days before the Trump administration banned

1027
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: European visitors. Uh Burr warned people in the room at

1028
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: this meeting that they should be cognizant that they were

1029
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: going to have to alter their lives very soon. Um. Again,

1030
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: he was not making these kind of warnings publicly. He

1031
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: was very much trying to calm people down publicly. Um.

1032
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: And it's also worth noting that these were like like,

1033
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 1: these sales were the largest that he has ever made

1034
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: in his history as a stockholder, and he did not

1035
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: reinvest any of them. This is pure cashing out now. Um.

1036
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Pro public or NPR asked for a comment on the

1037
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: senator stocks sales and burst Bow person or in a

1038
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: spokesperson for the campaign responded simply, l O L. Really Yeah,

1039
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: wait was it was? It? Was it an in real life?

1040
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: L O L? Or was it like a text? It

1041
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: was I think a text over email or something. Yeah,

1042
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: it does make a difference. That is that I mean,

1043
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: not shocking at all, but that is just some end

1044
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: days ship. It reminds me of to put it in

1045
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: another uh stupid Jamie analog. It's like the scene in

1046
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: Titanic where Kate Winslet asked the owner of the architect

1047
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: of the ship, like, Hey, what's going on. He's like, Oh,

1048
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: we're all gonna fucking die, but don't don't tell anybody.

1049
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: Just try to save yourself. And uh, yeah, we're funed.

1050
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: We're fu you know, speaking of people who are morally

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Speaker 1: identical to that Titanic engineer. Uh. Senator Carry Leftler, a

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Speaker 1: Republican from Georgia and the newest member of the Senate,

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Speaker 1: sold off seven figures worth of stockhold things in the

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Speaker 1: days and weeks after a private all Senators meeting on

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Speaker 1: the novel coronavirus uh that you know, helped to collapse

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Speaker 1: the economy a couple of weeks later. Um, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. At the time, she tweeted, appreciate today's briefing

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Speaker 1: from the president's top health officials on the novel coronavirus outbreak. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then she started selling off stock like fucking gangbusters. Um,

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Speaker 1: while not you know, uh. Well, for example, on February

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Speaker 1: after she had had this meeting and after she had

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Speaker 1: started selling off her socks, which she did on February sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: she tweeted this twelve days after selling off her stocks

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Speaker 1: Democrats have dangerously and intentionally misled the American people on

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Speaker 1: coronavirus readiness. Here's the truth. Donald Trump and his administration

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Speaker 1: are doing a great job working to keep Americans healthy

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Speaker 1: and safe. On March tenth, she tweeted, concerned about coronavirus,

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Speaker 1: remember this, The consumer is strong, the economy is strong,

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Speaker 1: and drop jobs are growing, which puts US in the

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Speaker 1: best economic position to tackle COVID nineteen and keep America

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Speaker 1: is safe. Now. Another data point that's worth talking about

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Speaker 1: is Leffler had not made a single stock transition during

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Speaker 1: the three weeks she served in office prior to this one.

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Speaker 1: This was her first The day that she got the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus briefing is the first stock transaction she made during

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Speaker 1: her time in the Senate. Now, both she and Burr

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: claim that like all of their stocks are basically in

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01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: a blind trust, they don't have any control over where

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Speaker 1: they get invested. And I'm sure that's completely true and

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Speaker 1: something that will hold up in the subsequent investigations into

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Speaker 1: their behavior. And there's no chance that they informed anyone

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Speaker 1: about what they were hearing in these meetings. No, I

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: don't think that any of this is going to be

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: tampered with before it has to be examined or you know,

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Speaker 1: anything like that. I think we're fine. It's fine now

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Speaker 1: as of right now. And again the story is still breaking,

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01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: so the list may be larger by the time you

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01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: get it. Uh. Senators who are confirmed to have made

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Speaker 1: significant sell offs of stock in the wake up that

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Speaker 1: meeting are Richard Burr, who we talked about, Jim im

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Speaker 1: Hoff from Oklahoma, Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, and of course

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Speaker 1: Kelly Lefler. Now, there were also some sales by Ianne Feinstein. UM,

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Speaker 1: and I have no desire to defend Diane Einstein because

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: I hate her. But it's not it's not quite the same.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote Keith Boykin from CNN here. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: Dianne Feinstein sale doesn't quite fit the pattern. Her husband

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: sold the biotech stock on January thirty one, when it

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: reached a low price of two. After the sale, the

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01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: stock actually rose to on mark four it's currently trading at.

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Speaker 1: So like, there was no real this isn't something that

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: was really affective. I don't know, maybe there was something

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Speaker 1: shady there. It's hard to say, but like, this isn't

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: the in the other cases you're looking at people who

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01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: sold off stock and like um in in Burr's case,

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: he was selling off stock in like hotels and cruise

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Speaker 1: lines and whatnot. Um there's never a bad time to say,

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Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein, never a bad time. I I support digging

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01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: into what her stock sales have been to see if

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: it does if she did do something shady. But this

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: biotech company just doesn't kind of fit the pattern because

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: it it really wasn't. Yeah, affected in the same way.

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: We'll see though, we should look into every Republican and

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: Democratic member of Congress and see what they've been doing

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: with their stocks and when they were briefed on how

1115
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: bad things were actually going to be, and what they

1116
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: said in public about how bad things were actually going

1117
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: to be. Look into every one of them. Hang the

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: people who committed treason, because I don't unturned Yeah, we

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01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: could call this treason, right, like if this is an

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Speaker 1: act of war, we're on a war footing. These people

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: are lying to the American public when they know how

1122
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: bad it's going to be and profiting off it. That

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01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: feels treasony. I mean calling himself a wartime president, as

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Speaker 1: you say, we're already asked even old tim because this

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: is an old timey situation. Yeah, it's so dumb to

1126
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: when has he not been a wartime president? Right? Who?

1127
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: When has any president in our lifetimes since fucking Clinton

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01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: not been a wartime president? Yeah, there has not been

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01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: not a wartime president. I don't think in my entire lifetime. Yeah,

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01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: they're all war time presidents. Like it's like bragging about

1131
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Um, I don't know what it's like

1132
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: bragging about. It's it's a nothing, I don't know. Fuck

1133
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: fuck all this ship funk all of these people. Um, yeah, Jamie,

1134
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: how you feeling today? You know I'm feeling I don't

1135
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: usually get frenzia at the record, so this has actually

1136
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: been This has been a nice medicinal one. Uh, I know,

1137
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: I feel okay, I like, you know, it's just the

1138
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: weird ship going on. How how are you feeling? You're

1139
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: hunting pigeons? What are you doing? I'm definitely gonna I'm

1140
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: actually looking I'm gonna go out this this weekend or

1141
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit next week and do some some

1142
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: squirrel and rabbit hunting. Maybe maybe try to bag some

1143
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: new Tria, get a stew going, Uh, do some brazing,

1144
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: and frying and see how the different game foods work.

1145
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: A friend of mine is going to take us out

1146
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: and do some foraging, So getting getting ready to do

1147
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: all the kind of like depressions, great depression stews that

1148
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: I'll need to cook using vermin. My my main plan

1149
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: is I'm going to become a professional ballerina and I'm

1150
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know, I think that that's that's my

1151
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: only plan. I'm gonna become a professional ballerina and I'm

1152
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: going to die before I'm thirty. Those are my two plans. Yeah, wait,

1153
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: you're not thirty yet, oh Jamie. Oh that yeah, that's true.

1154
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: Oh and I'm gonna read meat comments about me on

1155
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: the internet. That's the other thing I've been doing today. Well,

1156
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hope we hang in for your thirtieth birthday.

1157
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: You know what I realized it is? It is it

1158
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: is our seventh year. It is our seventh year. If

1159
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: Corona gets us were a genius is actually after all

1160
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: that's that's the relief, is if it gets me I

1161
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: was a genius. Seriousness, Jamie and Robert have been in

1162
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: Daniel have all been extremely hell through full in this

1163
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: first week of being home, alone, so you know, say

1164
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: thank you to your friends, talk to each other, conicate,

1165
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, wave machetes from afar. Everyone has been great.

1166
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we've all been checking in on each

1167
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: other all week. It's nice. It feels it feels nice.

1168
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: Hunt squirrels and pigeons. Learn how to make mulligan stew.

1169
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: The two Mulligan stew is what hoboes would eat during

1170
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: the Great Depression, And it's basically just whatever you have.

1171
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: If you boil anything, even rancid meat, for four or

1172
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: five hours, it will be it will not kill you,

1173
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: because nothing deadly can survive four or five hours of

1174
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: of of boiling um. That's the whole basis of Casian food.

1175
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: It's the old timey stuff. Old timey like language really

1176
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: is fun, except when it's used to be very racist,

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01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: in which case it's not fun. And that's fun. Anderson's

1178
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: sworn enemy is this squirrel that I named Edward. And uh,

1179
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm sending you guys a picture of Edward. Currently this week,

1180
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: this lady is still giving him so much unbelievable dry

1181
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: food that I'm like, piste, Yeah, well, I mean still thriving.

1182
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I have a machete and I

1183
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: can do something with it. But also I don't know,

1184
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: but I'm pissed that he has all these fucking seeds, Like,

1185
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: come on, that is that's not okay, mostly because he's

1186
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: my dog's sworn enemy. But that's where it is. Not

1187
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: that Yeah, look at all those seeds. Guys. Sonny has

1188
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: just been gloating about Biden's recent winds. It fuck, it sucks.

1189
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: Imagine being walked in the house with a Biden supporter

1190
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: right now. Just everyone send your send your thoughts and prayers.

1191
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: I did see my first bite in my first Biden

1192
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: it um um. You know the things that no no ghosts.

1193
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: So if you listen to where you ever, you'll remember,

1194
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: like a month or two ago, I said that I

1195
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: saw my first Amy for America sign. Well, I drove

1196
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: by that exact same house, and now they have an

1197
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: Amy for America sign and a Joe bidenside. So the

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: logical conclusion, it's the logical conclusion. They also said they

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: want to adopt Sunny just you know it was good. Well,

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm honestly trying to offload Sunny and it's

1201
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: hard right now. So oh man, I mean, I'll use

1202
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'll turn them into a rug. I was

1203
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 1: going to say a stu, Jamie. I've just been talking

1204
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: about how we use every part. Yeah. Sure, there's a

1205
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: solid couple of pounds of meat on him, and then

1206
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: we'll turn the rest into a rug. Gotta use every

1207
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:48,440
Speaker 1: part of your beloved, every part of your very regressive

1208
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: politically dog. Yeah, you're politically regressive dog. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways,

1209
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: this has been a very long ending to this episode. Jamie,

1210
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: do you have anything you want to plug? You wanna

1211
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: tell people they can find you and what they can

1212
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: listen to. Uh? Sure, Yeah, you can find me on

1213
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jamie Loftus, help on Instagram at Jamie crist

1214
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: Superstar and doing something remote comedy shows. You can listen

1215
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: to the Bechdel Cast. And you should find what your

1216
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: local mutual aid fund is and give some money and

1217
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: supplies to it. And that's all I have to say,

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01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And also remember that that mutual aid is

1219
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: fundamentally about building resiliency outside of the state. Uh and

1220
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: and not just a stop gap way to deal with

1221
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: the loss of state services, but a new way of

1222
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: looking at the relationship of human beings to one another

1223
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: in society. Without trust in a soulless UH government that

1224
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: doesn't care about you anyway. Fucking yeah, heads up? Yep?

1225
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: Is it my turn to plug your plugables? Robert? Yeah,

1226
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: please please do it. You can follow Rob did I write?

1227
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: Okay on Twitter. You can follow this podcast at bastards Pod.

1228
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: You can also hear Robert on Worst Year Ever and

1229
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: our newest show, The Women's Wear, which has episode one

1230
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 1: on March look out for that. Uh. You can follow

1231
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: Dan on Dan What is your twitch thing? Dan? Dan? Dan?

1232
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: What is your twitch thing? Say it one more time? Yeah,

1233
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: I know I want to say, yeah, yeah, I want

1234
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: to say it. So you can watch Dan play cool

1235
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: video games at UH. I'm gonna funk this up. I

1236
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: know it. Can you type it to me? No, just

1237
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: type it to me. God, damn it. I'm a hacking,

1238
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: a fraud I wanted. I don't want to funk this up? No, no, no, sorry, Chris, Okay,

1239
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: you can follow. You can watch Dan play video games

1240
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: at twitch dot tv slash. Okay, h Twitch dot tv slash.

1241
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: I fucked. I can't do it. I'm having under my

1242
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: table at this point. I can't. I can't do what

1243
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go look at this Twitter and see it's

1244
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: probably listed on there. I'm so sorry, Chris, I just

1245
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 1: wanted to plug dance good life. Oh yeah, okay, fun, yeah, okay,

1246
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: you can fall, you can watch okay, And if you

1247
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: want to watch somebody who's really awesome play video games,

1248
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: you can follow Daniel on twitch dot tv at dj

1249
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: underscore Daniel. That's DJ Underscore d A n L on

1250
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: twitch dot tv. Fucking did that ship? Um? Anyways, Robert,

1251
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: you want to end your own podcast? Okay, so this

1252
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: is out of the podcast. Thanks so much for listening.

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: Wash your hands or damn hands and burned down a

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: moon juice. Burned down a moon juice. M