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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started

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Speaker 1: with the story of the day. This sart is so

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Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. So in Peru, this twenty eight year

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Speaker 1: old guy gets to the airport and they pulled them

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Speaker 1: aside at security because they're like, eh, your stomach looks

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Speaker 1: a little bit too bulky, right, So then they take

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Speaker 1: them back to do a search, and when they lifted

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Speaker 1: up his shirt, they found that he had over three

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Speaker 1: hundred tarantula's strap to his body. When you go to

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Speaker 1: the airport, I thought that you walked through some machine

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Speaker 1: that gave you this low grade X ray when you

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Speaker 1: were walking through just to check on every single person.

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Speaker 1: You know that little machine that you have to like

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Speaker 1: stand with your arm open. It It looks like one

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Speaker 1: of those entry ways that you know when you go

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Speaker 1: in a doorway and it's like a glass revolving door. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you have to like hold your arms. Yeah. It

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Speaker 1: isn't like doesn't everyone have to go through that at

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Speaker 1: every airport or is that not a thing? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know at international airports if that exists there. And

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Speaker 1: also I think they might have flagged him before he

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Speaker 1: even got in the security line. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just did he think he was getting away with this? No?

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Speaker 1: So not only that he had three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: tarantulis drapped to his body, one hundred and ten centipedes,

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Speaker 1: and nine bullet ants. So my first question is like,

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Speaker 1: how are these strapped? Because visually, in my mind when

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Speaker 1: I'm first reading this story, I see all these bugs

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Speaker 1: individually taped onto this abdomen, which I know is ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: but visually that's ridiculous. Visually that's just where my mind went.

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Speaker 1: So of course we looked into it and it's like

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Speaker 1: he has these things and essentially like ziploc bagged, he

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Speaker 1: also had them in these you know, like tubular plastic

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Speaker 1: things that probably under his shirt looked like pipe bombs.

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Speaker 1: So of course they're gonna start freaking out and they're

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Speaker 1: thinking that he went into the Amazon and illegally took

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Speaker 1: these to participate in some wildlife trafficking and sell them online. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course he would make a shit ton of money.

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Speaker 1: They go for a lot of money. Also, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I realized how large tarantulas are. I'm just thinking

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Speaker 1: they're these like, you know, bigger spiders that you would

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Speaker 1: see in your house. This thing is like bigger than

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Speaker 1: a hamster. I want one so bad, but gabes just

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Speaker 1: like I'm drawing the line there. And I think Natalie

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Speaker 1: actually said that she wouldn't come to our house anymore,

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Speaker 1: babysit the kids. If I had a spider like that

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Speaker 1: which is just ridiculous. But the all right, So the

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Speaker 1: good news is from a medical perspective, Tarantulas, although they're

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Speaker 1: considered venomous, they don't really. There's rare case is where

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Speaker 1: they actually kill a human. Same with these giant centipedes

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Speaker 1: and these ants. The thing is is that this, to

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Speaker 1: me is just more of a mental thing more than

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Speaker 1: you know. It's just like getting a bee sting or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's not that big of a deal if you get

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Speaker 1: bit by one, unless, of course you're allergic to them,

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Speaker 1: but you're the allergies to these types of things aren't

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Speaker 1: as high as a bee sting would be. But it's

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Speaker 1: not really gonna hurt the dude if he actually gets

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Speaker 1: bit by one of these things. It's more just I mean,

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Speaker 1: the thought of it is just is just the most

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Speaker 1: I feel the worst for the airport employees that had

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Speaker 1: you know, like a fish and wildlife type of police service.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's this really cool episode. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of a side note, but not at the same time,

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Speaker 1: there was this show that was on back in the

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Speaker 1: day with Doctor Bodden called Autopsy. It was back in

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Speaker 1: the nineties. It was like one of the first original

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Speaker 1: shows that showed our job and it's a really really

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Speaker 1: good show and a good portrayal. And there's an episode

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Speaker 1: of them talking about the Wildlife and Fish Organization I

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Speaker 1: whole forensic unit of it, which is really cool. That's

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Speaker 1: just lead to really big problems. Didn't you talk to

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Speaker 1: actually because he was he's a forensic entomologist. Then who's

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Speaker 1: even telling you when we take our trip to the

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Speaker 1: you just can't do that on an airplane. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know what this guy was thinking, thinking he was

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Speaker 1: I guess was it worth it at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day. Okay, celebrity news, All right, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: this contra McGregor trial. So if you are listening to

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Speaker 1: this show, before we launched it as Mother Knows Death,

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Speaker 1: we had covered this story about Connor McGregor allegedly raping

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Speaker 1: this woman at the twenty twenty three NBA Final. So

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Speaker 1: there had been video showing him shoving this woman in

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Speaker 1: it was connected to that case, but it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: a totally different one from twenty eighteen. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty well known what this guy's intentions are, right,

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Speaker 1: He's been accused of this multiple times, and yeah, some

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Speaker 1: And first, I want to say this as a preface

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Speaker 1: But I just want to say that we don't know him,

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Speaker 1: we are not friends with him, we do not support him.

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Speaker 1: And my husband was literally a paid first responder model

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Speaker 1: We don't know the guy. We had a good experience

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Speaker 1: with him, but that doesn't mean you know how people

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Speaker 1: act behind closed doors. So like I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: So this case is about this, you know, situation that

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Speaker 1: had at first tried to get them criminally prosecuted for this,

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Speaker 1: So basically, they're saying they did have sex with this woman,

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Speaker 1: then she sued him too because she and I think

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, he was found,

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Speaker 1: you know, to not have sexually assaulted her. But basically

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Speaker 1: think it's interesting, you know, but when you're just shoving

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Speaker 1: seems like he's had a penis in someone a lot often, right,

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Speaker 1: But also, wasn't he drunk and hil cocaine at the

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Speaker 1: But I'm not here to determine what happened because I

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Speaker 1: don't I wasn't there for the trial. I wasn't there

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Speaker 1: for the alleged rape. All I want to do is

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Speaker 1: and that's just simply not true. They absolutely could have

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Speaker 1: it back. Okay. Freak accident. So on Friday, this guy

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Speaker 1: school so we could pick up all the kids. So

430
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: they each had a seat belt, because I just would

431
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: never put a child in a car without a seat

432
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: belt at this point, just knowing everything that you know.

433
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: So obviously cars almost stopped and gets hit by someone

434
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: going seventy miles an hour, so I'm sure they ejected,

435
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: went through the windshield. Three died at the scene when

436
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: went to the hospital. One ended up dying at the hospital,

437
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: And I really feel the most terrible for the person

438
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: who hit them, because that very well could have happened

439
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: to us. We're always driving at four o'clock in the

440
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: morning on trips and stuff like that. You don't think

441
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: somebody's going to be at a complete freaking stop in

442
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the highway. No, I mean, it's it's

443
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: absolutely what are you doing? Then apparently his license was suspended,

444
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: so it's like, why are you driving with a suspended license?

445
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: So far, everybody does that. I did it once. Actually,

446
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: oh my god, don't admit that I did, because my

447
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: license got suspended for some stupid thing of me not

448
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: stending in my license plates or something from an old car.

449
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: It was like something completely ridiculous. But whatever, my god,

450
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's not that big of a deal. Please, that's

451
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: that's not the big deal here. Okay, I think there's

452
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: other issues that he had his license suspended. Okay, well,

453
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: his license was suspended. He was a complete idiot and

454
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: stopped in the middle of the highway. I mean, they're

455
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: saying them. They said, the minimum of ninety five down

456
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: there is forty miles an hour. I didn't even know

457
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: there was a minimum speed limit, right, Like, I guess

458
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: people do you drive really, sir is? And I think

459
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: that it's for certain circumstances, probably more so that when

460
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: a big storm comes in and it's like pouring rain

461
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, like people slow down. I don't

462
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: know they have to do a minimum because it's kind

463
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: of telling you, like you should be aware that there

464
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: might be go cars going slower than you should just

465
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: like proceed with care. You definitely don't think that there's

466
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: going to be cars that are literally parked out front.

467
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: It's just the whole entire thing is just so dumb,

468
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: Like if you really wanted to take a picture, just

469
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: pull aside to the shoulder and get out and all

470
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: take a picture in front of the sign. Yeah, I

471
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: mean it's just completely idiotic. But basically, he's facing four

472
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: counts of aggravated manslaughter of a child and driving with

473
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: a license suspended or revote causing great bodily injury. Don't

474
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: pull over like that to take a picture. It is

475
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: not worth it. The whole thing that's just really upsetting

476
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: about this to me is that, like this guy is

477
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: he's a fucking idiot, right, But he was like it

478
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: looked like he was taking his family on vacation. He

479
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: wasn't like a child from what we know, he wasn't

480
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: a child abuse or he just was just like trying

481
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: to take all these people in a car that they

482
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: didn't all fit in. But he was trying to do

483
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: something nice, it seems. So that's what just is so

484
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: infuriating about this, because the guys, the guy's just dumb.

485
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: He's not like, I don't think he intentionally tried to

486
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: hurt these children, you know what I mean. He's just dumb.

487
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: And when I was a kid back in the day,

488
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: if you had four children in the back of a

489
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: seat without seatbelts like that wouldn't even have been a

490
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: thing that was like called normal nineteen eighty shit, right.

491
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: So it's just like, well, there's a reason the law.

492
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: I understand that. But I'm just saying, like the guy,

493
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: it's I'm sure he feels terrible. Who were the kids

494
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: and were they like it said his niece is a nephew. Yeah,

495
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sure he feels terrible about it.

496
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: It's just like just everybody's going to a terrible for

497
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: the rest of their life because you were dumb, you know. Yeah,

498
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: all right. So over the last couple of weeks, reports

499
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: have been coming out that many tourists in Laos are

500
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: getting sick and have even died. Yeah, so they think

501
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: that they're actually having alcohol poisoning. So back in two

502
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: thousand and two, I did a high profile death dissection

503
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: on alcohol poisoning because there was this case where in

504
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty two in London, South Africa, twenty

505
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: one teenagers ranging from thirteen to seventeen died at a

506
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: bar and all twenty one of the teenagers at autopsy

507
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: ended up having methanol in their system. So some places,

508
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: like disreputable bars in other countries, when you go on

509
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: vacation and stuff, they try to water down their product

510
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: by by serving alcohol that's cheaper to people in order

511
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: to make more money. So sometimes they use an alcohol

512
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: called methanol. So normal alcohol is called ethanol that you

513
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: would drink at voga or wherever like that. Methanol is

514
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: not considered to be acceptable in the human body at

515
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: any level, so no amount of it's safe and it's toxic.

516
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Methanol's cheap as hell. You can get like five gallons

517
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: of it from home depot for forty or fifty dollars, right,

518
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: whereas the same amount of ethanol would be almost two

519
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So they take some of it thinking that

520
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: they're just gonna water down. So you have a bottle

521
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: of vodka and you know it's half full, Oh, I'll

522
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: just put some methanol in it and fill it up

523
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: and they won't know the difference kind of thing. And

524
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: it's just you could have like such a small, small,

525
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: small amount. It says for extremely toxic to humans, only

526
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: eight ounces can kill an adult. So think about a

527
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: soda can is twelve ounces, right, a smaller than amount

528
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: of soda can could kill an adult. So they're thinking

529
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: that that's what happened to these poor These poor people

530
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: that ended up dying from this, I think was American

531
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: tourist and the other ones did you get where they

532
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: were from? You were from Denmark, one American and one

533
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: that recently died was from Australia and her friend is

534
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: still in the hospital in critical condition. So also, yeah,

535
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: so you just you just have to be careful if

536
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you go on vacation because this it happens sometimes. I

537
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: mean obviously, like if you're in another country and you're

538
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: in a reputable area, you don't have to worry about this.

539
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: But this is definitely something that is reported from time

540
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: to time when people go on vacation. Yeah all right,

541
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: So yesterday this new documentary came out about John Biney Ramsey.

542
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine if you listen to this

543
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: show you've never heard of this case. It's like one

544
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: of the most famous true crime cases of all time.

545
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: But just in case you're unfamiliar, John Binney was six

546
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: years old when she was found dead in her parents' basement.

547
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: It was the day after Christmas, right, yeah, all right,

548
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: so day after Christmas. This ca is still unsolved. They

549
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: don't really know who did it. There's been much speculation

550
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: over the years, whether the parents were involved, whether the

551
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: little brother might have done it. You know, John Benay

552
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: was also huge in the beauty pageant scene, and this

553
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: was like way before toddlers and tierras and everybody kind

554
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: of knew about these childhood beauty pageants. So there's been

555
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism of the parents for putting her

556
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: in these pageants, which you know, I think in general

557
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: people have a problem with these pageants because they over

558
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: sexualized children and they make them look like adults when

559
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: they're just you know, six years old, and it could

560
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: be a problem with pedophiles in particular, and they faced

561
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism over that. And now the dad

562
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: is saying in this new show that he's basically slamming

563
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: the criticism of the beauty pageants, saying that John Beney

564
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: loved doing them and it was this great opportunity for

565
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: her and his wife to spend time together. So who's

566
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: they're slamming the mom for forgetting her involved in it. Yeah,

567
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: so there's just you know, I think both parents get

568
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: hit with criticisms about putting her into the pageant. I

569
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: think there was this speculation for a while that she

570
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: had been in these pageants and maybe a predator had

571
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: seen her there, and then the family had done this

572
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: in their home Christmas tour where people were able to

573
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: come and tour their big, lavish home, and then they

574
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: think somebody went in there and was already eyeing her

575
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: up and then got the layout of the house and

576
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: was able to easily go in the house and find

577
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: her and kill her. Right, So that has been like

578
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: this long running speculation. But that's also unproven. The case

579
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: is still cold, but yeah, lots of critiques about putting

580
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: her in the pageants at all. Well, I mean, in theory,

581
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: this is before the internet and stuff, so that very

582
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: well could be a thing if she was a well known,

583
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: like a more famous child in the neighborhood than the

584
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: average kid that wasn't on the radar for somebody like that.

585
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: I used to have opinions about out this case just

586
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: based upon because like, all you have to go off

587
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: of is what you hear in the media and stuff.

588
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: But then someone that I used to work with actually

589
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: was related to them, like a very close relationship, and

590
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: when I heard some from their perspective, it kind of

591
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: changed my mind a little bit, just because we know

592
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: how the media is and how they focus on certain

593
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: things and they ignore certain things because they just want

594
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: people to click on their stories or whatever. So a

595
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: lot of it is I mean, I still don't know

596
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: what happened, but I'm a little bit more open minded

597
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: to hearing other things, because especially when this happened, it

598
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: was just kind of like they focused right away on

599
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: the parents, and then there was a period where they

600
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: focused on the brother because he had that weird interview

601
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: with doctor Phil. But then at the same time you

602
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: have to like watch that interview and think, Okay, this

603
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: little kid was a child when his sister was murdered,

604
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: and imagine just like the weird life he had after that. Right,

605
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: So I don't really, I don't really know what to

606
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: think in this situation. I think all of us can agree,

607
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: like most people that grow up in a lower to

608
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: middle class situation just don't even understand any of this

609
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: way of life living as a multi millionaire, having these

610
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: lavish parties or tours or whatever, and just having a

611
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: child doing these pageants all the time, and the ransom

612
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: note and the money and the bonus that the dag

613
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: got was like I mean, wasn't the bonus like over

614
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand? It was some insane amount of money

615
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: even back then, was just way more than any person,

616
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: like average person even makes a year, you know what

617
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it just everything is just like on

618
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: this other level of being hard to understand, like how

619
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: these people live basically is what I'm trying to say. So, yeah,

620
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean this case has been you know, so sensationalized,

621
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure in part because it hasn't been solved. Yet

622
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: formally it's at a point where will we ever really know.

623
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't watched this new docu series yet

624
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: because it just came out last night. I'm planning to

625
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: watch it over the weekend, so maybe it'll, you know,

626
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: give me a new perspective on it. They were basically

627
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: saying before they released it. They said, it investigates the

628
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: mishandling of the case by law enforcement and the media,

629
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: ultimately revealing the relatively simple steps that could be taken

630
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: to finally solve it. I don't know if they have

631
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: new information that we don't. I'm sure I thought that

632
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: there was some kind of DNA evidence that that isn't

633
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: being tenched. There's something that has to do with DNA

634
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: that they feel they could just easily like lay this

635
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: to rest or whatever. And I know that the dad

636
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: has been going to crime con and he's very involved

637
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: with the whole true crime field right now trying to

638
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: get answers because obviously, if he's been vindicated and he's

639
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: getting older, the wife is already dead, Like they just

640
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: this was how long long ago? Didn't they say that

641
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: she was she? I feel like she would probably be

642
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: a little bit older than you right, because I think

643
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: you were a baby when that happened. Do you I

644
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: remember what this happened in ninety six? Yeah, so you

645
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: were so I was two, Yeah, you were little. So

646
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: she's she was five or six, right, so she was

647
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: just a little bit older than you. Yeah, but I

648
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: mean you're going to be thirty next week. So this

649
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: is how long this case has been going on. And

650
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: just imagine really being a parent and just not really

651
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: having an answer before you die. That would just drive

652
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: you crazy, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, and

653
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: the wife died in two thousand and six, so you

654
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: know she went ten years never knowing any answers. The

655
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: dad's been going all this time, and then you have

656
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: all this criticism of everybody around you for how you

657
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: handled it, your potential involvement. I mean, there was theories

658
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: floating around that the handwriting on the ransom note match

659
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the mother's handwriting. There was you know, the daughter was

660
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: John Benay was sexually assaulted. I think if they kept

661
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: the kid from when they examined her, they might be

662
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: able to do DNA evidence. Now I just don't really

663
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: know what they have now that the documentarians are shaying

664
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: could very easily solve it. Right, we'll watch it and

665
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: report back to us. I will. I'm I am really

666
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: interested to just see what they have to say about it.

667
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: But all right, this this next case is like mind blowing.

668
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: This was an episode of Weeds. I don't know if

669
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: you remember, remember we used to watch that. Yeah, so

670
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched that far into it,

671
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: because I know you had stopped at some point. Well,

672
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: it just got it was like the best show ever,

673
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: and then it got so ridiculous and silly. A couple

674
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: seasons in that I was just like, okay, I'm done here. Well,

675
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: this is when it started really going downhill because there

676
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: was an episode nearly identical to this story we're about

677
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: to talk about. So in the UK, this mom was

678
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: really reluctant to let her thirteen year old son go

679
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: with his father one night, but she finally gave in,

680
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: probably just feeling guilt like he should spend time with

681
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: his dad. So immediately after picking this son, the dad

682
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: offers him cocaine. Thirteen years old. Well, he said he's

683
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: done it before, so why not give it to him again. Yeah,

684
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: the dad is saying that allegedly he did the cocaine before.

685
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: So that's not it. They go to a hotel room

686
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: and then two sex workers show up and one of

687
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: them takes the boy back in a room and it

688
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: says quote, performs a sex act on him. So while

689
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: the dad was just being really nice, he really felt

690
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: bad because his son had just broke up with his

691
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: girlfriend and he thought that this was a good way

692
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: to get him to get over this breakup. I literally

693
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: can't believe he's saying that, like trying to paint himself

694
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: as this good guy. So apparently, when the sex worker

695
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: got there, the son was like, I am not comfortable

696
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: at all going through with this, and he just said,

697
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: don't be a pussy and then made him go back there.

698
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: The mom didn't hear from him and didn't get any

699
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: communication from them at all till four o'clock in the morning,

700
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: when the dad sent a text on the son's phone

701
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: that said piss off. Wow. Now we wonder why the

702
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: mother was reluctant to send her son to go hang

703
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: out with this guy. It says, piss off, I'll guard

704
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: him with my life. Let the boy stretches wings. I'm

705
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: sure you're like, this is awesome. So obviously the boy

706
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: gets home the next day, tells the mom what happened.

707
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: He's like completely embarrassed. He didn't want to do it,

708
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: he felt forced into doing it, and then she immediately

709
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: took him to the police department. So did he I mean,

710
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: did he get arrested? Yeah, So the dad's been sentenced

711
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: to jail I think for four years, and he was

712
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: given a ten year sexual harm prevention order banning him

713
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: from unsupervised contact with children. Well, maintaining in jail that

714
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: he's a good dad and he was doing it to

715
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: help his son's broken heart. Well, the scary part is

716
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: is that he actually believes that, and there was some

717
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: intention of him trying to help him out, but you're

718
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: just like, where's your judgment, bro right, he set this

719
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: kid up for potential sexually transmitted infection, cocaine use, heart damage,

720
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: right to potential overdose, overdose anything. And then on top

721
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: of that, just think of the mental trauma because not

722
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: only did he not want to have sex with it.

723
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if she gave him a blowjob or

724
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: whatever happened, but like he didn't want it, so he

725
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: kind of got raped. And on top of that, what

726
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: sex worker is having sex with the thirteen year old boy,

727
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: that's a whole other issue. The dad said he was eighteen,

728
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: but like, I'm sorry, you get one hundred percent tell

729
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: the difference between a thirteen year old and eighteen year old. Hey,

730
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: so what happened? I have even had full pubic hair

731
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: or a regular size penis yet, Like, seriously, what happened

732
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: on Weeds? Was you know the uncle, like the dead

733
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: dad's brother that came to live with them. Yeah, the

734
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: uncle took the cute little boy, like the littlest brother

735
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: to like a happy ending massage place when he was

736
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen years old. Yeah. Well, I mean that's

737
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: and that's when you're thinking, Okay, this show is getting outrageous,

738
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: and then this actually happening in real life. This guy,

739
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean this guy. Yeah, and I want to hear

740
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: more about the sex worker and all that stuff because

741
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: that's like a whole other issue. But this poor kid

742
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: is going to have relationship problems and shit when he

743
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: gets older because of this. And then to know he's

744
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: gonna have relationship issues anyway because his dad clearly had

745
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: an issue. So yeah, it's just it's just really it

746
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: really just sucks to think because like, not only did

747
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: he have this traumatic experience. But now he knows that

748
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: his dad is getting arrested because of this, and his

749
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: mom probably feels terrible for letting them go, because listen,

750
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: this is not the first time she's thought that his

751
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: judgment was off clearly right, because normally, like, if your

752
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: kid wants to hang out with their dad, you're like, okay, bye,

753
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: I get freedom for a couple hours, right, Yeah, So

754
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: if you're saying, you know, I don't want my kid

755
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: around you, then there's a reason that she said that,

756
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: And I would love to know the reason actually, because

757
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: this guy clearly as the worst judgment of any human ever.

758
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:25,040
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759
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,879
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766
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,319
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773
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Speaker 1: So the world's tallest woman who's seven foot seven, and

774
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the world's shortest woman who is two foot seven, have

775
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: met for tea on Guinness World Record Day. Their height

776
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: difference is five feet. Did you see the video. It's

777
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: so cute. It really was the cutest thing ever. You

778
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: know what I really love and this, I mean, my

779
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: book is just all about this, showing differences in humans.

780
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: And I love that in the past, these people would

781
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: be born with these with these different bodies right that

782
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: they're living in and normally they would feel kind of

783
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: shunned from society and they just would feel very insecure

784
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: about their the way that they look because they don't

785
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: look like everyone else. But I love that these people

786
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: are coming out and talking about the different syndromes that

787
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: they were born with and or the conditions they were

788
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: born with as well. And it's just it's just this

789
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: like makes me happy because it's just making it so

790
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: then other people that are living in the country and

791
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: everything or in the world feel comfortable being in their

792
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: own bodies in front of people because they're different. But

793
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool, you know what I mean. Yeah,

794
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: it's cool to celebrate such extreme differences. I thought it

795
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: was really cute that they said they do have things

796
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: in common despite their height difference, which is loving makeup,

797
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: self care, jewelry, and doing their nails. Oh, that's so cute.

798
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: And they did look really great together. I thought it

799
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: was just such a cute little afternoon. So this woman

800
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: is seven. She's over seven foot tall, which is just

801
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: so tall, especially for a woman. Right. She has this

802
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: condition called Weaver syndrome. It's super rare. Only fifty people

803
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: have been documented with it in the world, so it's

804
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: just it's so so rare, and it causes changes to

805
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: the bones which cause people to have an abnormally tall stature,

806
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: as well as changes in the face, and that's why

807
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: she has ears that are a little bit large than

808
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: you would normally see on a person. But she also

809
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: side note, has the Guinness Book of World Records for

810
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the largest years as well, so she's breaking lots of records.

811
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: But this is a genetic disorder that sometimes can be

812
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: passed on from a parent, but also it could be

813
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: a spontaneous mutation in a gene as well. So it's

814
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: just cool that she's embracing her different body and won

815
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: a world record for being the tallest. And this article

816
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: so the smaller Do you recognize the smaller woman? Yeah,

817
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: she was an American horror story one season. So the

818
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: article said, this is like typical news, just getting everything wrong.

819
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: They said that she has a condition called achondroplesia, which

820
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: is a typical when you think of a little person,

821
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: this is what this is the most common anomaly that

822
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you would see. Right, But achondroplasia. Do you remember that

823
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: show that was called Little People, Big World or something

824
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: like that, that that's a little person or the people

825
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: that you would see in Wizard of Oz or something

826
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: like that. Those little people have a chondropleasia. They have

827
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: a very specific look and it's because they have a

828
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: problem with their cartilage ossifying as they grow or turning

829
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: or hardening into bone. And that those people are average

830
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: size of like four foot four, right, so she's two

831
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: foot tall. She doesn't have achondriplasia. She doesn't have the

832
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: same appearance as a person with achondroplesia. She has something

833
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: that's a super rare thing called primordial dwarfism, and that's

834
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: when you're having this small stature, even as you're a fetus,

835
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: you're you grow smaller, you're born smaller. And sometimes it's

836
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: mis diagnosed as other things like nutritional deficiencies or things

837
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: like that, or other kinds of syndromes. And there's not

838
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: really that many people that are around the world that

839
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: have that. But that's why she's just extremely small in

840
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: stature like that, and she doesn't have a contemplasure. So

841
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where they got that from, but it's

842
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: estimated that this type of dwarfism is so rare that

843
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: it's one in three million people. There's only around one

844
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: hundred people in the entire United States diagnosed with it. Wow, yeah,

845
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, so and she's just so she's just

846
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: so cute you just want to like pick her up

847
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: in a squeeze her, I know. And the picture of

848
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: them was super cute. They did say it certain times

849
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: during the lunch. It was kind of hard to make

850
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: eye contact with each other because of the height difference.

851
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: But I thought this was really cool that they did this,

852
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: and it was a really unique way to celebrate different bodies.

853
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: So we always loved to see that. Yeah, all right,

854
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: So this guy went on Reddit and was explaining that

855
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: when he met his ex that she had been raised

856
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: vegan and wanted him to be vegan as well. So

857
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: that would have been a deal breaker for me perfectly right.

858
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I know they were together for over ten years. Imagine

859
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: like not being in a relationship because of cheese. No, Like,

860
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: what are you talking about cheese? Like I was, that

861
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: would be like a deal breaker for me totally. Yeah.

862
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Wait till you see the cheese spread I have for

863
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving. Oh, I can't wait, Like, what have you

864
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: even talking about not eating cheese? So basically they were

865
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: going out for They were together for over ten years,

866
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: and they were both vegan at that point, and then

867
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: they had three children that they also raised vegan. So

868
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: after they broke up, he started questioning the vegan diet,

869
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: saying he was struggling with depression and anxiety. His bills

870
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: were really expensive when he would go out to eat

871
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: or go to the grocery store. He was having trouble,

872
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, making up for all the nutrients he was

873
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: losing and then when he started reintroducing animal products over time,

874
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: he noticed he started feeling better. So then he started

875
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: thinking about how it was affecting his children. So he

876
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: did all of this research that found, you know, problems

877
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: with the vegan diet and children, and then he presented

878
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: this information to the kids and asked them how they

879
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: felt about it and if they'd be comfortable having animal

880
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: products again. So against well not again, I don't think

881
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: they've ever had it. They've never had it. Yeah, so

882
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: they the kids had never had it, so he was

883
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: asking if they were comfortable trying it out, but he

884
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: didn't tell the exus. So they started slowly giving them

885
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: animal products over time, and I guess she found out

886
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: it freaked out super like so bad. This is a

887
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: really interesting topic actually because in one sense you're like, Okay,

888
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: these are his kids too, so he can have the

889
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: choice as to what they eat. But for a vegan person,

890
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: this is like you might as well have given them

891
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: cocaine and a sex worker, right like, this is this

892
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: is how these people think. So you can go back

893
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: and forth because they're vegan is not always the healthiest diet,

894
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: especially if you're not doing it correctly. So there's been

895
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: studies done that vegan being on a vegan diet is

896
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: definitely good for cardiovascular health and for diabetes and all.

897
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: There has been proof of that, but there's also adverse

898
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: health effects that have been noted in the skeletal system,

899
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: especially in children who are growing, and impairments in mental health.

900
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: And what's interesting with this is that one of our

901
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: friends just stopped being a vegan after like three years

902
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: because he was having some health issues and decided to

903
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: do it. And his wife told me that he just

904
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: started eating cheese again, right, And she's like, he has

905
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: been and like over the past couple of weeks cheese

906
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: and milk products. She's like, he is literally in a

907
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: good mood. I haven't seen him in for the past

908
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: three years. Wow now. And I'm just like, well, yeah,

909
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: because cheese is awesome. And I didn't even really think

910
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: about it when she told me that until I started

911
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: looking into some things and saying that there definitely was

912
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: an association with having a better mood and everything like that. Now,

913
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: if you're a vegan person that does things correctly, then

914
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: you usually don't have any of these issues. But think

915
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: about kids and how picky they are anyway, and how

916
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: terrible their diets are. You know, you really have to

917
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: take that into consideration because they're in this vital stage

918
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: of brain growth and bone growth. So I don't think that.

919
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: And the dad also consulted the physician, the family physician,

920
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: who said that as well. So I don't think that

921
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: he's wrong because he did it on himself and felt

922
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: better and then wanted to do it. But it's kind

923
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: of weird. It's almost like a religion thing too, right,

924
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Like one person wants to raise their kid this religion

925
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: and the other one doesn't. Like I don't really know

926
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 1: what the rules are there, but ultimately he probably wins

927
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: in this situation. Well yeah, and you know, he was

928
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: facing criticism because he didn't tell her and she was mad,

929
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: and she thinks doing it to spite her. But I'm like,

930
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: have you ever tried talking to an extreme vegan? Birts

931
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: wet your other point of view? Because I used to

932
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: work in a restaurant with murder megus murder. Yeah, I

933
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: used to work in a restaurant with over a fifty

934
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: percent vegan menu, and you know, we used to have

935
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: this woman come in. We we had Italian food so

936
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: like half of the menu is vegan Italian food, half

937
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: of it was regular. And we used to have parmesan

938
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: on all the tables. And this woman freaked out so

939
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: bad one time that the parmesan was on the table,

940
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: saying that we don't know what we're doing and we

941
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: are disgusting people for having parmesan on the table. And

942
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't have to eat here, Like, well,

943
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: I get out. But the thing is is that it's

944
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: the same if you're gluten free or anything like. You

945
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: can't when you go into a restaurant that serves meat

946
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: and cheese and dairy products, you can't. You can't separate it.

947
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: Like if it was real parmesan cheese in a vegan restaurant,

948
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: then that would be blasphemous, right, But like this is

949
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: restaurant that serves cheese and you know, serves cheese, so

950
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: there might be some kind of cross whatever at some point.

951
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: You can't you can't get mad about that. But that's

952
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a cross contamination concern. She was just

953
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: appalled we had an animal product. And I'm like, this

954
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: isn't a vegan strict restaurant. Where are you talking about?

955
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: But from this mom's perspective, if she was raised vegan,

956
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: which and she's an older person, so being raised vegan

957
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: back when I was younger was a little bit like revelationary, right, Yeah.

958
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: So so she was raised that way and been that

959
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: way her whole life, like she's been, she's been like

960
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: indoctrinated to think that this is this is like the

961
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: only way to be, which she's entitled to, right, And

962
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 1: I do I do feel bad because, like I said,

963
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: it's the same thing as a let's say you're a

964
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 1: devout Catholic your whole life and you want your kids

965
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: to make their sacraments everything, and then you're married and

966
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: that's all good, and then all of a sudden, like

967
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: you get divorced and your husband's like, you know what,

968
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: fuck that, I don't want my kids to do that stuff.

969
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: You're kind of it's like heartbreaking to you because you

970
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: think that they're they're going to go to hell and

971
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: burn in hell because they're not because they're not doing

972
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: this stuff. But like that's what happens when you get

973
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: divorced and break up. You have to like and you

974
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: don't have two parents on the same page, you know

975
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it sucks for her. I do

976
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: feel bad about it. No, listen, it sucks. And if

977
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: you want to be vegan or you want to be

978
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Catholic or you want to do whatever, you can do

979
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: whatever you want. But they are fifty percent his children too,

980
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: so you have to respect or you guys got to

981
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: try to meet in the middle somewhere or have you know,

982
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: a rational conversation about how you want to raise your kid,

983
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: and you just have to respect it was it was

984
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: in the best interests of the children, not to spite you.

985
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Yeah, So I do think it's a really

986
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: interesting conversation though, because now with all of these people

987
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: being vegan, it's a very interesting thing because it's not

988
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: like the kids necessarily had an allergy to it or

989
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: something and the dad was force feeding the kids something

990
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: they're allergy to, like it's a dietary preference. So I

991
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: do think it's very well. And you could argue that

992
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: human beings, as Homo sapiens, are omnivores, so technically being

993
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: vegan is going again, it's like making a cat's a

994
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: carnivore and you're going to make them a vegan like

995
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: humans are supposed to be omnivores, so you're not abusing

996
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: the child by giving by giving them what they're supposed

997
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: to have. And again, like to reiterate, if you're vegan

998
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: the right way, it can be an incredibly healthy lifestyle. Personally,

999
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: the vegans I encountered at the place I worked out,

1000
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: we're eating you know, vegan cheese steaks, which was essentially

1001
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: like fried gluten input into more gluten with a fake

1002
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: over processed cheese. So I don't particularly see that it's

1003
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: being health well. I think I think now, like all

1004
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: the stuff that's come out is like these fake meats

1005
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: are just not really considered healthy. Anything as processed like

1006
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: that is just yeah. I mean that those fake burgers

1007
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: like bleed and shit, it's just like, what the hell

1008
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: is this? Right now? They taste good. I think they

1009
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: taste good, but what Yeah, we had these vegan wings

1010
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: prior to me being gluten free that were delicious. I

1011
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: preferred them over the chicken wings. They provided no nutrition

1012
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: at all, Like at least chicken wings you get protein,

1013
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: you know. They they had no nutritional value at all.

1014
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: They just tasted good. But whatever, I think this is

1015
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: interesting and I think we're going to see this conversation

1016
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: coming up a lot over the next decade. Yeah sure, Okay.

1017
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: So there's this food critic named Keith Lee on TikTok.

1018
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: He goes to local restaurants and gives them reviews. So

1019
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: in Seattle, he had gone to this one local sushi

1020
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: spot that a bunch of people recommended he check out.

1021
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: So I guess after getting the food, he went into

1022
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: his car and filmed himself eating while reviewing the product.

1023
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: Then his experience at the restaurant. And I don't know

1024
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: if you watched the TikTok they I did, Okay, So

1025
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: he's like lifting up all the individual pieces of sushi,

1026
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: saying what they are, and eating them. And he lifts

1027
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: one of them up and you just see on one

1028
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: of the pieces a little squiggle off of the side,

1029
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: and people started coming and that thing is moving. Whereat listen.

1030
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I watched the video and and I know that the

1031
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: restaurant has put out a statement because I guess this

1032
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: guy is going around like he's the next Zaggatz food reviewer, right,

1033
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: Like he's he's making or breaking these restaurants. You go

1034
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: there and get a review by him, and then all

1035
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like these businesses are blowing up right,

1036
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: So if you go and there's a negative review, like,

1037
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: obviously that's really bad. But the restaurant put out a

1038
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: statement saying that sometimes the way the meat is, they

1039
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: can move when you squeeze it with chopsticks, And I'm like,

1040
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: that looked like a freaking worm to me too. Honestly,

1041
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: I would have thought the same exact thing if nobody.

1042
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: If somebody said watch this video, look at this one part,

1043
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I would have been like, there's there's a worm in it,

1044
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: because there's there are worms that you've seen. We had

1045
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: that video that was floating around from Costco Salmon that

1046
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: had the little tiny worms in it. Yeah, and you

1047
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: definitely could get parasites from fish, especially salmon, because salmon

1048
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: is like could be freshwater and could be saltwater, and

1049
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: especially if you use a freshwater fish, there's like a

1050
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: higher percentage that you can get a parasite inside of it.

1051
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: But you've seen it happen before, and you know, when

1052
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: you're a sushi restaurant, you're supposed to be using sushi

1053
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: grade fish. But even the way that they they're supposed

1054
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: to flash freeze it and keep it frozen for ten

1055
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: days before they serve it and all, there's all these rules,

1056
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: but like that even doesn't one hundred percent prevent this

1057
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: from happening. So I don't I don't think it's like, ooh,

1058
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: don't ever go there again. I mean, it just happens.

1059
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: This is life. You're getting animals that get parasites. But

1060
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: but don't deny and don't say that the chopsticks were

1061
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: making that happen. Well, I also feel like they were

1062
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: like calling him now saying that what he was saying

1063
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: was false. I'm like, he gave me a pretty good review.

1064
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: People in the comments were noticing it.

1065
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: He didn't.

1066
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he came out with another video afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I think he came out after days later and said

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00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: that he felt fine, and he did hear from another

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00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: person that they got sick for meeting there. Yeah, because

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00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: when according to the video I watched, he put the

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: thing in his mouth and didn't even realize that that

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00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: was happening. No, And I don't know, like when you

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: if you squeeze a piece of meat, you could definitely

1074
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: think that the meat was moving, but this was like

1075
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: a little squiggily white worm off the edge of the meat,

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00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: which is exactly what they look like. It wasn't movement

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: when you pick up food and it's flopping around. It

1078
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: was something like an external bug squirming around the outside.

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: There's no mistaking it for something else moving. Yeah, there's

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00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: there's a worm that's called anaseychiasis, and that is the

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00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: typical one that we saw in the video from the

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00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Costco salmon. It's like a little white, tiny worm that

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00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: rounds up and it's squiggly. And I'm telling you, like

1084
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: I saw it, and I think I think he's there.

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: So poor restaurant. I mean, this is like the worst

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00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly happen for them, But like it

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: might just be better to admit that these things happen

1088
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: and you're going to do more in the future. I

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, now the restaurants closed till further notice,

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00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: so they claim they're doing an investigation to see exactly

1091
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: what happened, but who knows. Well, okay, so could we

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00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: think about this though, Like why would they close if

1093
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: that if all, if they went back and checked all

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: their fish and it was totally fresh, Like why would

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: they close? Yeah? Exactly, And like did they close was

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00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: their own decision or did the health department close the down,

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00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: speaking of I came across I didn't even add this

1098
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: because this was like very specific to some Miami newspaper.

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: But I came across this article the other day that

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: had the names of multiple restaurants and all of the

1101
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: deficiencies these restaurants had, and they were so terrible, like

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Speaker 1: live fourteen live cockroaches and a dead rat, like all

1103
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: of this like listed out stuff, and I was just thinking, Oh,

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: my god, every one of these restaurants is going to

1105
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: lose their customers. I mean, I guess they should if

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01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: they're dirty, but I mean a restaurant that was down

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01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: the street from the one I worked at forever in

1108
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: the city that my husband also worked at at some point,

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01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: just got shut down by the health department. And you know,

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: they also published a list of all their violations, and

1111
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: they were saying something about them having like a record

1112
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: amount of rodent feces in the restaurant, which I always

1113
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: thought that place was really disgusting. And then my husband

1114
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: said when he worked there years and years and years ago,

1115
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: they had like a mummified rat on the shelf with

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: like the ketchup. You know, I'm like, you know, it's

1117
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: not so like, especially in the city. I feel like,

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01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: even when you have a house, it's very hard to

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Speaker 1: keep like roaches out and rats and mice. They're just

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Speaker 1: because they're so like a you walk around South Philly,

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: you see them on the street just walking around. So

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Speaker 1: if one would get into your house, it would be

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Speaker 1: it would be crazy. But also I would I would

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: put more weight into it if that happened in the

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Speaker 1: burbs versus in the city, because you can't control how

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: your neighbors are living as well, you know what I mean,

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: It's nearly impossible in a city restaurant to keep that

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Speaker 1: stuff out completely. I think it's the way in which

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Speaker 1: you're tackling it and having past control coming in and

1130
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: where you're keeping the dry storage and everything. And I

1131
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: think that's more of the issue, not them coming in

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: in general, because it's it's truly impossible in a city

1133
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: scenario to not have them come in at all. Yeah,

1134
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: but you have to be really over the top on

1135
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: top of it and clean and doing and storing everything properly. Yeah.

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01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: All right, So for about a month, this sixteen year

1137
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: old girl was experiencing severe stomach pain and vomiting. She

1138
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: had gone to the hospital twice, and all of her

1139
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: tests were coming back normal at first, so they just

1140
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: kept ending her own her way with pain medication into

1141
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: meds for ulcers. So none of those medications were working

1142
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: and her pain kept getting worse. So she went to

1143
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: the hospital for the third time, and there they started

1144
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: going through a list of all the potential really common

1145
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: issues she could be facing, and they were shocked by

1146
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: what they ended up discovering was the source. So I've

1147
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: heard this several times. These stories all read the same

1148
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: and end the same of these people that have this

1149
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: certain condition. So when they finally worked up this girl,

1150
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: they found out that she had a large ball of

1151
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: hair in her stomach that was trickling down into her

1152
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: small intestine. And this is called a tricho bezor, So

1153
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,959
Speaker 1: trico means hair and a bezor is just a ball

1154
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: of something. So you could get lots of different kinds

1155
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: of bezors in your I love that word too, by

1156
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: the way, in your gi track if you have an accumulation,

1157
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: like one time in the Laby got a Fido bezor,

1158
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: which was just like this accumulation of I don't even

1159
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: know what this dude ate a lot of like celery

1160
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: or something, but it just was like all in a

1161
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: ball stuck inside of his small intestine. So we got

1162
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: it in surgical pathology. But what happens is these people

1163
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: have a condition called pica. So first they have something

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01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: called tricho tilomania, which is when they pull their hair out.

1165
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: So this is a mental illness condition that they they

1166
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 1: have a compulsion that they pull their hair out, right,

1167
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: and then tricophasia is when you pull the you pull

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: the hair out is the mania. And then when you

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: when you ingest it, it's called tricophasia, and that's a

1170
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: condition that's pika. We talked about this before with didn't

1171
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: weren't we talking about the the kid that ate the

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: stones or something or that was maybe that was in

1173
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: the grocer wom I did a case of a kid

1174
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: that that ate asphalt stones or was No, that was

1175
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: an astrue diagnosis, that was an asteri diagnosis. But we've

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: talked about a couple of times with the woman who

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: ate all the crayons and then the person who ate

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01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: like an entire dining where's it. Yeah, So we talk

1179
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: about this in the grossery room all the time, and

1180
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: we also talk about it on Mother News. Death all

1181
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: the time, and that's when a person is eating something

1182
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: that's considered non nutritional food and that's usually due to

1183
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: a mental illness as well, also can be due to

1184
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: nutritional deficiencies and things like that. So the interesting part

1185
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: of this particular case is not only did they have

1186
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: this did she have this trichobezor in her stomach which

1187
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 1: was the ball of hair, but she had something called

1188
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: Rapunzel syndrome, which is super bizarre. But it's when this

1189
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: hair starts getting starts moving down the gi track into

1190
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: the small intestine. So when you pull out the hair

1191
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: ball out of the stomach, it actually looks like Rapunzel's

1192
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: hair coming down. That's why it's called it. It's like

1193
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: this long tail of hair, and this tail of hair

1194
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: can go down into the small intestine and it could

1195
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: actually or great to small intestine. It could cause a

1196
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: cute pancreatitis because it could block the pancreatic duck. And

1197
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: it's just like a more rare presentation of one of

1198
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: these hair balls. You know, the Modor Museum, like years

1199
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: and years and years ago before they really sucked, like

1200
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: had this special exhibition called fairy Tales or something, and

1201
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: they had an example of this for Ponzel syndrome. Yeah,

1202
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: it's it's it's cool. I have a couple cases. So

1203
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: if you go in the grocery or if you're a

1204
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: grocery member now and you just you could either search

1205
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: trichobezor or just beezor or hair anything Rapunzel syndrome. There's

1206
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: multiple cases that you could see what this looks like.

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of cool looking actually, but it's

1208
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: terrible for a person because when you eat certain things,

1209
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: so you could have compulsions to eat things that will digest,

1210
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: but hair doesn't digest, so it's just going to stay

1211
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: in there and it's going to accumulate, just like it

1212
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: does on your hair brush. It's just going to keep

1213
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: accumulating into a big ball and it's going to get

1214
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: stuck in there. But it's the same story all the

1215
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: time that these people go in and they say they're

1216
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: having all these symptoms, and it's funny that doctors keep

1217
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: seeing these patients all the time and they were puzzle

1218
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: as to what's happening, and not one time are they like,

1219
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: are you eating anything that you shouldn't be eating? Just

1220
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: just asking and not that everybody would admit it, but

1221
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: that might narrow down some of the diagnoses in these situations. Yeah,

1222
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think most people would admit it,

1223
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: which is probably why they don't. I don't know, it

1224
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: is weird. I don't know. I just think if I

1225
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: was if I was a doctor and I was seeing

1226
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: a person that was just like, listen, like you went

1227
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: through this a couple of years ago that you were

1228
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: having like gas it ended up being like gastritis or whatever,

1229
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: but you were just like having all these stomach pains

1230
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: and then they would give you medicine and it wouldn't

1231
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: go away, and it just kept lingering and lingering, lingering,

1232
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: right like I would that would just be my first thing, like, Okay,

1233
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: I've ruled out gird, I've ruled out this, like could

1234
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: it be that, like did you eat anything weird? You

1235
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,439
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like something like that. But well,

1236
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: that was annoying because I understand why they have to

1237
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: ask this, but every single time they're like, oh, did

1238
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: you take a pregnancy test? And I'm like, yeah, I

1239
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: think I ruled out the common issue. Thank you, Like

1240
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm not dumb. Thanks, Oh my god. That was driving

1241
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: me crazy and then it ended up being gluten so

1242
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: fun times all right. So new research from the FDA

1243
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: has found that a very popular asthma drug, unfortunately one

1244
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: that a bunch of us have taken over all of

1245
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: my children, all of your children, may be linked to

1246
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: serious mental health issues. Okay, so this drug is called

1247
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: singular at singular whatever you say, however you say it.

1248
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: Mana Luklast is the generic name of it. My kids

1249
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: have been on it since they were two or three

1250
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: years old, like very little children for asthma. It's a

1251
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: common medication to control asthma allergies. Maria was on it

1252
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: for years of her life too. So what's funny about

1253
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: this story is that my friend said to me years

1254
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: ago that her kid went on this drug when he

1255
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: was two years old. He's now ten, so this was

1256
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: eight years ago, and she said that he got so

1257
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: crazy after he started taking that medication that she just

1258
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: took them off of it because she was like, he

1259
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: was acting so weird. It went from like being normal

1260
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: to acting completely crazy after taking this drug. It was

1261
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: very noticeable to this mom, so she stopped giving it

1262
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: to him and she went online to all these like

1263
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: Facebook groups and Reddit groups and stuff like that, and

1264
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: saw that there were multiple people that were complaining that

1265
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: their kids were exhibiting signs of psychosis and suicide in

1266
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: some cases like crazy shit, And she's like, you know what,

1267
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: like I'm never giving that drug to my kid again

1268
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: and this So she told me that years ago, and

1269
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: then this story came out this week, eight years after

1270
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: she's been hearing about this and noticing this, And it's like,

1271
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: why is the FDA is so behind when all of

1272
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: these patients are complaining about this. This is a legitimate

1273
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: thing that now they're saying that the drug affects receptors

1274
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: on the brain that are in charge of a child's

1275
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: mood and impulse control, cognition, sleep, all things that are

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Speaker 1: super important for a child to be acting mentally normal.

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: And now you're just like, god, when when like my

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01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: kids were on it, and it's like, especially the little one,

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: when she's so moody and shit, You're just like, is

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: that because she's been on this drug every single day

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01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: for the past five years of her life? You know

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's it's nuts. It's hard to say.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel great as somebody that took

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Speaker 1: it for such a long time, and as an adult

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: that experiences really severe anxiety issues, I'm not saying it's

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: one hundred percent linked to that. And of course they're

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: saying it's short term, so I don't think we're gonna

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: know until more studies are done if it's actually long

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Speaker 1: term or not. Yeah, but guess what they also said.

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01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: They also said that this pill was equivalent. It was

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01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: so safe, it was equivalent to a a sugar pill

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: when it first came out. They also said oxycotton was

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: so safe, and look how that turned out. Like, what

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: are they sadly talking about here? It doesn't seem like

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01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: they started investigating this until I think around twenty and nineteen,

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: when an astronomical amount of accounts online started popping up

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: of suicides and these like psychological events started popping up

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01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: on Reddit and all these other forums. So they were like,

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: you know what, like we need to really start looking

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: into this more, even though you're saying this was dating

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: back to potentially what two thousand and fifteen, Yeah, And

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't really because because when my

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: friend was telling me about it, she's like, oh, all

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: these kids are killing themselves and this and that, and

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: then I was kind of like, all right, well, my

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01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: like my kids don't really exhibit those particular signs. So

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01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: I just was like, what you know, because because a

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: lot of times online too, you have and I guess

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: that's why the FDA kind of observes it for a while,

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: because you have people saying things that might just not

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01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: really be true either kind of or there's no correlation.

1312
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: But I think after after seeing this and seeing that

1313
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: it definitely like the scientists involved in everything have said

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01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: that it affects the brain and the receptors of the brain,

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01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: I immediately like I got I was like, I'm not

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: giving this to my kids anymore. I'm just not I'm

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: not doing it. I don't care if the benefits of it,

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: which I don't even think that their asthma is super

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: under control anyway, So I'm just kind of like, I

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01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not doing this. Like this is and

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should give this shit to their

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01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: kids honestly, Like it's it's so scary because you you know,

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: you're giving it to them thinking asthma this and that,

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: like you're not even thinking anything about their actual brain

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01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: developing that this could be a potential thing you know,

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: so scary. Well, it's scary. I've said this a bunch

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: of times on here, Like there's there's a mild distrust

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01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 1: with the FDA right now because everything well pretty severe

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: on my behalf, but some people really stilln't believe them.

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: But after you know, all this information has come out

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01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: about oxy cotton and how that's like, you know, really

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01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: skyrocketed this opioid crisis we have in this country, well

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01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: really the entire world, but mostly this country. I think

1334
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: it's really important everybody looks into that. With that said,

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01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm not against taking medication at all. I just think

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: we really need to look at certain things and historically

1337
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 1: what has happened with them. And I think them putting

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: the little like black label on this medicine isn't really

1339
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,520
Speaker 1: doing it justice. I think they owe us having external

1340
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: resources investigating this too, and not just like what they

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01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: say is what it is. It could be much worse,

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: it could be less severe. I would just feel more

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: comfortable if it was protocol, if multiple agencies did, you know,

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01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: independent research. What sucks is that this is in the

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: news right now. But let's say like in a year

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: or two, if a person goes to the allergy doctor

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01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: and the doctor subscribe prescribes this to them and they

1348
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: don't really know. They've never taken it before, so they

1349
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Like they might take the medication and not

1350
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: even really know about it. Like what, I don't even

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01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: understand what's what is a black label? It's just like

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: saying cigarettes are bad kind of thing. Yeah, it's like

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: basically they had to put it on oxycotton too. Saying

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: there was really dangerous side effects of taking the medication.

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it can't be sold or given out

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: or prescribed or anything. It just means, like we're letting

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: you know that our research has found that there's really

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: severe side effects from taking this medication. But I don't

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01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: think a lot of people even understand what that means.

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: So, yeah, who would who would have their kid, have

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: their their their mood unstabilized to take an asthma drug

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 2: like And doctors don't just like weed itself out, you

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And doctors get a lot of incentive to give these

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: medications out, and I don't think they're always fully transparent

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01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: about the side effects. So let's start thinking about stuff

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01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: like that. I think it's very important to do your

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01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: independent research before you start taking anything instead of just

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: taking it at face value. I think that's the lesson

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01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: we've been doing your independent research. Though It's like shit

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: gets blocked on the internet, you know what I mean,

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: Like you could search all you want, but I mean,

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: my friend did come across all of these groups at

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: some point. But I'm more concerned with the time it

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: takes for people that are reporting all of these side

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01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 1: effects for all of these different kinds of medications, drugs,

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01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: et cetera, and not like for it to become a thing,

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: it takes forever. So when you hear and it has

1379
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: to do with anything that's new, because the new ones

1380
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: are obviously like the vaccine was one thing, and then

1381
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: now it's like ozepic and all those side drugs. Like

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: when you are watching social media and hearing people same

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: we could say about breast implants too. When you're hearing

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: the average people bring up the same complaints all the

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01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,879
Speaker 1: time that they're getting sick from these things, pay attention

1386
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: because it's gonna come up in five ten years from

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: now that oh yeah, that was bad, you know what

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 1: I mean. I think every single person in the world

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: should watch the documentary The Crime of the Century. I

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01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: believe it's on HBO, Max Max, whatever it's called now.

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: It's about what happened with oxycott and I think is

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01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: very important in understanding the manufacturing of that drug and

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01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: the healthcare system. I think everybody should watch that and

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 1: then it'll really open never pour back to us, report back.

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01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people are gonna have problems with what

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01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: we're saying, but when I watch that, it changed I'm

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: not even one of those people that's like, I've watched

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: this documentary. It changed my life like that one's legitimately

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: changed my life. It really opened my eyes and I

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: think it's very important for everybody to see. Okay, other

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: death news in India, this twenty five year old guy

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: had an epileptic fit and went to the hospital. So

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: when he got there, the doctor said they tried to

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: perform CPR, but his heart rate flat lined and they

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01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: just declared him dead. Didn't want to do an autopsy,

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: set him straight to the mortuary. So when he gets

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: to the mortuary, they put him on this funeral pire,

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: which seems like this, Why would you explain this thing?

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01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: It's just like a pile, like a fire pit for humans. Yes,

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: that's that's like what it is. It's a fire pit

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: for humans. It just looks like a bunch of wood

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: that you set on you just put a person on

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: top of, instead of like a pig for a luel.

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01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of like kind of thing Salem which trial esque,

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: so like to visually what it looks like, I don't know,

1416
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: but apparently doing this as part of Hindu tradition. This

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: is what this article is saying. But they put this

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01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: guy on this funeral pire, they said, literally moments before

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01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: they lit this thing on fire to essentially cremate him,

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: people noticed him squirming around on it, and he was

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: not dead at all. Yeah, So they took him back

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: to the hospital and he wasn't like it's not like

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01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: he was perfectly like, hey guys, what's happening? Like he

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01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: was he was not doing well. And I took him

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: to a hospital and then tried to transform to another

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01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: hospital which was like one hundred miles away or something insane,

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01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: and he ended up dying in route this time, real

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: for real this time, but he was alive and was

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: almost burned alive. Just it's insane. And I guess they

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: said that there was some kind of post mortem report

1431
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: filled out even though that he didn't have an autopsy,

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: saying that he had COPD and stuff. And I don't know,

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01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: like I don't know the way the procedures that are

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: done in India when a person dies, but they seem

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: to be taking it seriously that this happened. Yeah, the

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: doctors involved to vin suspended. They're doing an investigation to

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: see exactly what happened. I think most people do find

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: this completely unacceptable. We've kind of had a couple stories

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: now this year that have involved people either going to

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: the morgue or going to the funeral home, like being

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: alive still when they were declared dead. It's kind of alarming.

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: Is it like a laziness thing? I'm just I just

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01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I don't listen. I don't I

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01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: don't know what the procedure is when you pronounce someone dead,

1445
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: because I've never done it. I you know what I mean,

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01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: It's just get them after I just get them afterwards.

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. There has to be some kind of

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01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: a checklist that's like this person's definitely dead, going down

1449
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,879
Speaker 1: the list of like what vital signs are lack thereof

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01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: that they have so I don't know. It's just this

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01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: shit is just crazy. I've never I've obviously never had

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01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: a situation of it happening. I don't know. Every single

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: time we reported it's in another country, it hasn't been

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01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: here so far. Not to say that it hasn't happened here,

1455
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: but it would have been in there at least this

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: year when we're doing the news and stuff. We haven't

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01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: reported it here. So I don't know. Because, like I said,

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01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor. I would think that if you're

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01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: a person that pronounces people dead all the time, that

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01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: it should be very clear that like a person is dead,

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: there should be absolutely no way mistaking it. But I

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01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, all right, I just don't know.

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01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: What do you say in this situation? To move on

1464
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: to questions of the day, Every Friday at the mother

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: nos Death Instagram account, we put a little story up

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01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: and you can ask it whatever question you want. Do

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01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: you routinely take samples during autopsies? If so, what are

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01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: they so? Yes, we do. It depends on where the

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01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: autopsy is being done, so in the hospital we're usually

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01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: doing them along with residents that are in pathology that

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01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: are learning. So we do a little bit extra than

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Speaker 1: you would normally do, like at a medical examiner's office,

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01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: for example, But in the hospital, if we're doing a

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: full autopsy, we will sample every single organ, and we'll

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: actually keep a little piece of every single organ in

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: a jar called the stock jar, which we could go

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01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: back to later, because, for example, when we take all

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: the organs out and we look at them and then

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: we put them back in the body and send them

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 1: to the funeral home just a couple hours after the autopsy,

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01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: we don't have the body anymore. So let's say, for example,

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01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: we look at something under the microscope and it looks

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: kind of funny, and you're like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: want to look at this long again. Well, you can't

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Speaker 1: do it if the body's gone already. So if you

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Speaker 1: keep a little piece in a jar, then you're able

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01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: to go back and look at it again. So we

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01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: keep those jars in the morgue for a couple months

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: and then dispose of them with the medical waste. But yeah,

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01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: especially every hospital autopsy that I've done, we sample everything,

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01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: even like if the guy died from cancer, we'll take

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01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: a sample of testicles. We just look at every single

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: thing prostate, small bowl, large boal, appendix, skallbladder, every organ

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: we take samples of normally if you're doing an autopsy

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01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: for forensic purposes. Like let's say, for example, a person

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01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: was found dead, they dropped dead, and you do the

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: autopsy and you see they have a pulmonary embolism or something.

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01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: There's really no reason to sample the testicles because like,

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01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: who cares, that's not what killed the guy. So they

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: but they have way more bodies to autopsy when we're

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01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: doing it, like, oh, we want to we want to

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01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: look at disguy's prostate because we want to see if

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01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: he had cancer then you didn't know about it, just

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: to learn something. But like medical examiner case, they don't

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: care about that. All right. Do you still sell signed

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01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 1: copies of your book?

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Sure?

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01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean no, wait, don't say it. So we don't

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: sell signed copies of the book. You can get a

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: sticker that you can sign and get personalized that you

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01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: could put in the book. If you're a grosser, remember

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01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: and you win one of our you know what is

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: it Wednesday or a monthly giveaway, you can get a

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01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: signed copy sent to you where it's where you sign

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01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: the physical book. But we do not sell those. Yeah,

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01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: that's and that's like one of the spots. So when

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: we play games in the grosser room. So we have

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01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: a couple we do every month, we just do a

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01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: giveaway and then and then also we do what is

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: it Wednesday every week where you could win. We have

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01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: a couple of different games that you could win stuff

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01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: for and that could be one of your choices of prizes,

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01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 1: Like can't they pick something from the website too if

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01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: they want like merch or something or Yeah, there's all

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01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: different prize options. So, yeah, if you want if you

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: have a book already or you want a signed copy

1527
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: and you don't want to like try to win one

1528
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: of the games thing, you could go to the doormatter

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01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: dot com slash book and then there's a link there

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01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: where you could get a personalized book plate sticker where

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01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: you could get it addressed to yourself. You could get

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01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: a little message on it. You could just get a signature,

1533
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 1: and then you could stick that in a book that

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01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 1: has to be purchased separate. Yeah, and you could also

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: get a like a little Christmas card holiday card that

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01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: I'll write whatever within reason, whatever you want in it.

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01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: And then there's some opportunities, Like when I went to

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01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: Crime Con, I did a book signing. Another side note

1539
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: is every time I'm in a Barnes and Noble or

1540
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: something and I see my book, I sign it when

1541
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm at the store. So you might just like a

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01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: random Yeah, you might randomly come across that from time

1543
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: to time. But yeah, through your options, you should be

1544
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,919
Speaker 1: able to hit a couple on your on my road trip. Yeah,

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01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: so that'll be fun, and you should just do like

1546
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: a fun little tour and post videos and then people

1547
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: could go on scavenger hunts and find them. Yeah, totally. Yeah,

1548
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: but that's how you guys can get them, I think

1549
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: right now. If you go you could either go to

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01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: the doormatter dot com sash book, but if you go

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01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to just thedoormatter dot com or the grossroom dot com,

1552
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: there's a little shop tab and there's like a little

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01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: drop down thing and there's a tab that's says book

1554
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: plates and holiday cards and you could click that and

1555
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: you could also find merch there too. So if you're

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01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: looking to shout for the holiday season, if you're if

1557
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: you have our newsletter, we also sent a newsletter out

1558
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: yesterday with all this information too. Yeah, make sure you

1559
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: sign up for the newsletter because we always there's lots

1560
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: of information on there about our recent posts and just

1561
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: like things that that's going on. Yeah, and you their

1562
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: link for that is in the description of every episode too,

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01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,919
Speaker 1: so you can find it there all right. Last favorite

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01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving side dish. Oh, the Pauladine corn cast role. That's

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01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: my favorite too, And I also like I make this

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01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: sweet potato castrole and I like mixing them together. I

1567
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: think that's the best flavor in the world. Like the

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01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: Paula Dene corn cake seriously takes like four sticks of

1569
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: butter or something insane. Yeah, it's I feel I hate

1570
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: making it because I feel guilty eating it afterwards because

1571
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I can't believe that this is like this,

1572
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: but that might be like that every single time you

1573
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: go out when foods taste good, that there's just like

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01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: ten sticks of butter and something. Yeah, of course it is.

1575
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: I brought my kids to this overrated cookie place. I'm

1576
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: sure you guys know what I'm talking about because they

1577
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: think it's all the rage because they see it on

1578
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: their stupid YouTube videos. And I couldn't believe that the

1579
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: cookies were almost a thousand calories each for one cookie

1580
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: like they always I mean they're big, they're like you know,

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01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, like for us like a one portion

1582
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: cookie though yeah, I mean I could eat it in

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01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: one sitting there if they were good. I just don't

1584
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: even understand why you would waste that many calories, Like

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01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't I understand many have to wouldn't even have

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: that much right, Like it just seems like a lot.

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: Well that's not true necessarily. Have you ever read the

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01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: calories and like the bakery section at Wegmans, those fruit

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 1: tarts have even a lot. I I hate the calorie

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01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: list situation. Can I understand that why they do it?

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01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: But it ruins it when you're just like I just

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01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: want to have an unhealthy snack, but I don't want

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01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: to know it's a thousand calories. Yeah, that's why I like,

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01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: I actually prefer going to like a little family owned

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01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: restaurant because they don't list that stuff. Because if you

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 1: go to any kind of a chain place, you're just like,

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01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: there's like this more upscale chain steak place near us,

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01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: and it'll say like it's a thousand calories just for

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01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: like one part of it, Like the steak or what

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01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: and you're just like and then I'm like, oh, I

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01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: don't want to eat that, you know what I mean?

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01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: But when you're out to eat, you want to just

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01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: like enjoy. Sometimes I do understand it for every day though,

1604
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people, especially me when

1605
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: I was when I was a teenager, and I didn't

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01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: really know about like calories and stuff. I didn't really

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: understand like how you got fat, you know, because we

1608
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: didn't learn that in school. I remember I was drinking

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01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: these like white chocolate raspberry mocha things from Starbucks, like

1610
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: a ventee every day, and then someone was just like, yo,

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01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: do you know that there are like a lot of calories,

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01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 1: Like you could get fat for them. You're only supposed

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: to have like under two thousand calories a day and

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01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: this one's like eight hundred. And I was like what, Like,

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, Like I didn't even

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: know that. So maybe a lot of people don't really

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01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 1: realize how many calories and you make better choices, like

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: if you go to Starbucks often that maybe you won't

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01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: get like a five hundred calory one every single day

1620
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: because obviously you start getting fat. Yeah, But also like

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: if you look at most of if you get like

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01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: one of the Christmas coffees for example, right, they're all

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01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: five hundred calories and it's because they all have like

1624
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: five to six pumps of whatever syrup in a medium coffee.

1625
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: That is disgusting. Yeah, but if I guess if they

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: weren't listed, people wouldn't realize that they were, you know

1627
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, like you kind of you don't really

1628
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: realize that. And then but I don't know, it's like

1629
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: a double edged thing because sometimes I'm like, I like

1630
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: to know what it is, especially something that I want

1631
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: to drink like every single day or eat every single day.

1632
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you're like, well, I don't

1633
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: if you should be counting calories on Thanksgiving. I mean,

1634
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: it's like a day of indulgence. So no, I know,

1635
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to have an extra buttery side.

1636
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's just so good, it really is,

1637
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: all right, guys, Well, we will see you Thursday with

1638
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving special episode. If you have a shocking story,

1639
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: please submit it to stories at mothernosdet dot com and

1640
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: we are also posting every couple days on our Instagram account.

1641
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: A holiday Q and a little box so you guys

1642
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: could ask us questions for our Big Questions episode coming

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01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks. Have a good Thanksgiving guys. Thanks,

1644
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder,

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01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist assistant. I have a

1646
01:28:56,640 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and path education.

1647
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

1648
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

1649
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

1650
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 1: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

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01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

1652
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

1653
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 1: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed

1654
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having

1656
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a

1657
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent

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01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: care center, emergency room or hospital. Please rate, review, and

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