WEBVTT - 10 Tips to Be a Great Conversationalist: with Danielle Robay 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:08.119 Big things happen when you're pretty, pretty bold, pretty clever, 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.320 pretty strong. I'm Danielle Robe and each week my guests 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.640 and I have conversations that put a new spin on pretty. 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:24.160 This is pretty smart. Hello, pretty smart people. Happy April. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.400 I want to say Happy Thursday always, but I know 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.320 some of you don't listen on Thursdays, So happy whatever 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.440 day you are listening. I'm excited to be here with 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.080 you today because today is different. Today's actually a first 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.560 and I haven't said that since February of twenty twenty 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.320 one when we launched. But today is a first because 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.479 I'm doing my first solo episode. And to be quite honest, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.600 I've never done this in I don't know three years. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.080 I'm bad at math, but I haven't done it because 0:00:55.120 --> 0:01:00.840 it sort of terrifies me. I am a trained broadcaster, conversationalist, interviewer, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.280 and the idea of hopping on the mic alone is scary, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.119 Like what if I'm not interesting alone? I need someone 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.600 to bounce ideas off of. But that's actually what today 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.080 is all about. Today is about how to be a 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:22.520 great conversationalist. I was thinking about it. I professionally have 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:28.000 spent over three thousand hours in conversation. I've been doing 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:33.520 this for like thirteen years, and I've read a ton 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.640 of books. I've read Barbara Walter's book about Conversation, Larry King, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.080 who's a master of communication, How to talk to anyone, anytime, anywhere. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.800 And I of course have spent hours and hours in 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.160 conversation and have picked up some things. So I've come 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:56.320 up with ten pillars of communication. But first, here's why 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.120 I think it's important. I have been absolutely enamored by 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.320 people for well, just as long as I can remember. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.080 I actually can't remember a time when I haven't been 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.840 fascinated with people's stories and the parts of their lives 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:12.959 that I don't get to see normally. I think that's 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.320 part of why we love travel, right. But I've had 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.760 boyfriend's joke and tell me it's nosiness, but really it's not. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:25.840 It's curiosity. I've always been a person, a kid, an 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.480 adult with a lot of questions, and I feel like 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.360 a great conversation acts like a ripple effect. One motion 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:39.520 can generate an endless amount of wisdom, and it all 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.360 radiates from the epicenter of a story. Conversations are the 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.320 stuff that life is made out of, especially if you 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.360 come from a conversation first family like I did. I 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.000 remember I would go to friend's houses growing up, and 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.480 their families would turn on the TV at dinner or 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.919 chat politely about their days, and I would look around 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.800 and be like, what's going on here? My family, we 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.359 talked about politics and money and pop culture, and we 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.600 were loud and not afraid to disagree, and there was 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.919 a lot of laughter. I came from one of those 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:15.080 families where you better have something to say or you're 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.960 just gonna get buried at the dinner table. I come 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.440 from a family of storytellers. Now, when you think of 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.399 a great storyteller, who do you think of? I think 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.160 of a few people. One is my grandfather, Marvin on 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:32.240 my dad's side. He was a professor with several doctorates, 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.080 and he was a principal. And Yo, that man could talk. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.640 He was a born orator. He could talk about the 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.840 guy he met at the gym, or he could talk 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.640 about quantum physics. He just wanted to chat. I would 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.960 go to his in my grandmother's house for dinner on 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.080 Sundays and we would sit in their living room and 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:57.920 it was this very small, very sometimes not clean house. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.440 I shouldn't say it was not clean, but it just was. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.160 They didn't have a lot, and we would sit in 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:09.440 their living room and just kibbets, and that's a Yiddish 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.280 word for chat. I come from a chatty family, and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.120 when I look back, it's no wonder that I got 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:20.719 into an industry predicated on communication. Broadcast has always been 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:29.200 sort of named incorrectly for me. People aren't broadcasters, they're communicators. Anyways, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.039 when I think of great conversationalists, I think of Larry 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.039 King as well. I mean that bellowing voice. He knew 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.200 how to draw people in and there's an art to it. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.480 I used to sit at the breakfast table with him 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.240 at natean Ow's, which is a deli in Beverly Hills, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.080 and there'd be a group conversation going, but I would 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.760 always try and sit next to him, and he would 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.599 turn to me aside from the group and just give 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.440 me little nuggets of wisdom. He would say, great storytellers 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.679 never give the joke away at the top of the story, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.400 or you gotta be a little self deprecating sometimes. And 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.560 one of the things I loved most about Larry was 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.919 his obsession with why he told me one time that 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:10.839 he would be like five or six years old on 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.760 a bus going to school and he would sit at 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.159 the front of the bus with the driver and just 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.240 chat why do you like driving the bus? And then 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.440 he'd pepper the driver with five more questions, five more 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.799 why questions before they got to school. And I've noticed 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.839 interviewing people that those why questions are the most probing. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.760 People are much more comfortable sharing the hows and the whats, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:39.080 but the whys those are personal. But imagine if we 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.359 were armed with both the courage and the tact to 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:47.039 prod into the whys of certain behaviors or observations, we 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:52.279 could learn so much more about others and ultimately ourselves. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.640 There's a great Medium article by Sarah Coe on her 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.160 love for conversation, and she writes, when we acquire knowledge 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.160 on how we and our loved ones interact with the world, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.320 we understand the triggers that exist in all of us 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.360 and the context to why we feel the things we feel, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.159 we do life a little better. So, in an effort 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.479 to do life a little better, which has always been 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.440 one of my goals, I want our shared stories to 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.240 allow us to live better. Today is all about how 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.400 to be a great conversationalist. So we're going to talk 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.799 through those ten pillars. And I also want to acknowledge 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.760 that for some people conversation feels easy and for others 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.159 it can feel really uncomfortable or awkward. But the great 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.719 thing about this is that anyone can be good at it. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:46.000 It just takes a little intention and a little practice. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:51.480 So the first pillar is to come in curious. Everybody 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.440 you will meet knows something that you don't. You have 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.320 to ask questions until you figure out what that is, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.039 and then zone in. If you come in curious and 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.880 you start asking somebody questions, they may not engage or 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.640 be interested in the first few, but ultimately you'll figure 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.960 out something that makes them tick because you'll see their 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.600 eyes light up. And if you want to practice, do 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.640 this in an uber or a lyft. It's low stakes, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:24.000 and you go in and ultimately, whether it's sports or 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.880 music or anything, you will find something that makes their 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.840 eyes light up and you'll know immediately, and then you 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:36.920 zone in on that. Number two is respect. Now, part 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.960 of being in conversation is not judging, not criticizing, and 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.440 not imposing. Think about who you feel most open with 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.280 or most comfortable talking to. I guarantee the person who 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.200 just popped into your mind is really not judgmental. They 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.720 take you for who you are, where you are. Now, 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.200 let's give that gift to somebody else. I've said this 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.760 on the pod before, so excuse me if you've heard this, 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.000 but I said to a therapist one time, you give 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.120 me such a gift by hearing me out and not 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.920 judging me, just taking my words at face value. I 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.760 want to be able to give that gift to others. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.960 And I felt like I was judgmental sometimes. And she 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.800 looked at me and she said, Danielle, you're not going 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.600 to like my answer. And she laughed, and she said, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.000 the only way to judge others less is to judge 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.120 yourself less. So that one starts as an inside job. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.240 But I do think that it's really important people really 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:39.400 feel your respect immediately, and it sets the table. It 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.800 sets the table for the conversation. Number three this is 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.600 another one about questions, which is ask open ended questions. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.320 Now you learn this in journalism school because there's who, what, where, when, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:58.439 why or how? And if I ask you a compacted question, 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.400 you're probably going to give me a simple answer, which 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.800 we don't want. So, for instance, were you terrified when 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:12.160 the storm started? That person is probably going to say, yeah, terrified, 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.360 that's a short answer. That's what we don't want. Instead, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.439 you can ask what was that experience, Like, how did 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.320 it feel to live through that storm? What was going 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.960 through your mind when it started raining? Who did you 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.439 call right after the storm was over? Those questions open 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.360 up conversation, and that's something that is hard to do 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.280 in the moment. Sometimes you can think about like writing 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.840 those out and practicing, but in the moment you can 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.040 think about how to avoid a yes or no answer, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.760 And a lot of those more interesting answers are going 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.920 to start with the what and how questions. You're really 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.400 trying to get someone to stop and think for a minute. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.440 It's that head tilt, you know, when you ask somebody 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.000 something and they tilt their head and they're thinking, huh 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.520 because they haven't thought about it themselves. That's what those 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.960 what and how questions do. Now, the fourth is to listen, 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.679 and this is not just listen to be present. This 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.440 is listen to learn and understand, not listen to respond. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.720 And now this is really underrated, and there's a few 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:25.199 points here. People love to interject their own experiences, because 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.839 we're trying to connect with somebody. If they start talking 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.280 about their aunt, you are definitely I know I do this, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.400 like I'm compelled to think about well, my aunt. But 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:39.960 you have to stop yourself because silences and pauses actually 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.240 elicit more conversation because people feel like they need to talk. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.720 So let them talk, and you're inevitably going to have 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.440 some of those thoughts that come through your mind, like you, 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.200 like we were talking about like your own aunt, but 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.079 you got to let them go. You're definitely going to 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.679 feel the urge to respond, but don't because if you're talking, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.960 you're not learning. We all know. One of my favorite 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.640 sayings is the most interesting thing is to be interested. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.439 Think about it this way. A conversation is a game 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.920 of ping pong. You got to hit the ball back 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.680 over the net. Nothing communicates value and respect to a 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.640 person more than asking them what they think. And unless 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.160 you're giving a very formal speech, every encounter should be 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.600 a dialogue, a back and forth. So make sure you 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.920 consciously hit the ball back over the net and give 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.040 the other person the chance to respond, and part of 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.720 that is asking follow up questions. The best listeners I know. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.760 Never stop with one question. It's like peeling an onion. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.079 They ask follow up questions and they go deeper each time, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.440 And honestly, this is where you learn the most and 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:49.360 also how you add value to one another's lives. A 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.680 very simple one you can ask is how did it 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.120 make you feel when that happened. I'm telling you it 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:01.120 opens up a whole new line of communication. Thing about listening, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.600 make sure you're listening with your heart. Words are really 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.400 a small part of any communication. The intellectual exchange we're 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.319 having is really only part of the conversation of the exercise. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.640 People pick up so much paying attention to nonverbal cues, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:22.599 including somebody's eye contact, their tone of voice, their body language. 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.400 Make sure you're listening with your heart. Number five, embrace 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:35.080 differences while building on commonalities. Everyone is different. That's the 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.400 beauty of it, that's the beauty of conversation. But at 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:43.280 the same time, there are always commonalities for the differences. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.400 We embrace them. They make us all unique. We learn 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.120 from each other from our perspectives. But once you find 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.640 that common link. You both love traveling to the Caribbean, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.680 you both have a fear of elevators. You can build 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:03.200 on that. It makes people feel connected. Number six, Admit 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.600 that you don't know something. This is actually another thing 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.760 that I learned in journalism school, because everything we say 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.319 is on the record, so we're constantly thinking about our words. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.760 And people ask me things all of the time that 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.640 I'm not an expert in, and instead of pontificating or 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.760 feeling like I have to give an answer, I just 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.720 say I don't know. Sometimes I say, you're really making 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.920 me think about X, but I don't have an answer. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.640 I'm not quite sure. Let me get back to you, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.160 And that's okay. Saying you don't know builds trust. I 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.760 think so much of conversation or meeting somebody new, especially 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.959 is feeling out how that person feels about themselves. And 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.480 when somebody says they don't know something, it makes the 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.360 other person feel like they're with a confident person. Number 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:02.199 seven Transition to a new question. Sometimes when you're in conversation, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.839 asking questions or transitioning can feel abrupt and it makes 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.160 for a disjointed conversation. You want to avoid that. All 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.600 you have to do is repeat something they just said 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.080 or use a word that they just used in their 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.400 last sentence to pivot. And transition to another thought. It 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.640 feels way less harsh or jolted. This is something you 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.280 learn being a morning TV host, and it's also something 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.640 that works great if you're having a conversation at a 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:33.040 restaurant or a party. Number eight is also simple building words. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.600 You know, if you take an improv class, the only 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.760 rule is that you say yes. You say yes, and 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.520 you don't ever turn away from the person offering something 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:47.640 up to you. And in conversation it's way better to 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.720 use a building word like and than but but makes 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.040 somebody feel like you're turning away from them, or you 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.880 disagree in a way that sometimes isn't necessary. Not that 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.240 disagreement can't be great in a conversation, but see I 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.920 just did it ready. Not that disagreement can't be great 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:11.280 in a conversation. And you want people to feel connected 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:16.920 to you and close and comfortable. Number nine. Great conversationalists 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.720 are well read. It's something that I know people who 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.360 are not readers are going to hate that one. But 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:29.760 reading also can be extended to podcasts, to books on tape, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:37.520 to quick Instagram factoids. I say well read because you 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.680 know what builds people's confidence when you ask what they 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.840 think about something. And in order to really imagine this, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.560 think about a kid. When you ask a ten year 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.680 old kid what they think about a table or a 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.520 light fixture, or how something was built, or do they 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.040 like a TV show? It builds their confidence because it 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.560 makes them know that you're interested in them and that 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.880 you care about their opinion. So people who are well 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.200 read have topics to bring up and talk about in 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.040 these moments. Hey, I just saw an article on X. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.760 What do you think about? Why makes sense? Number ten? 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.200 Provide positive feedback. A poker face might help when you're 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.360 playing cards, but it does not help build trust or 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.960 develop relationships. People really need confirmation. They need to know 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.800 that you're listening and that you understand them. So if 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.720 you want to nod your head or provide verbal affirmation 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:39.760 that you are listening and learning, that is really powerful. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.400 Glancing down at your phone or your watch communicates all 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:48.640 the wrong things. And here's a little extra tip. Be 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:53.040 prepared to be amazed, because that is where the magic is. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:59.520 I go into most conversations with people just prepared to 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.960 be a amazed by them, and I am rarely disappointed. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.520 I had some guy drop off my laundry the other 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.320 day and I said, hey, how you doing. Just a 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.439 simple question. I took a second to ask, and he 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.880 told me a whole story about how fifteen years ago 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.440 his son passed away and so he looks at every 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.840 day like a blessing. And I don't want to share 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.479 his whole story. But people are amazing. The human spirit 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.520 is amazing, and you never know what incredible experiences they've had, 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:39.399 both good and challenging. And if you go in with 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:44.040 that feeling people, it's contagious. People feel it, they feel 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:50.160 your interest. A promise you'll feel the magic. Okay, thank 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.199 you for coming to my ted talk. Just kidding. I 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:56.639 hope these were helpful and this was actually fun. I 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.520 think I'm going to do one about how to ask 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.399 great questions at a later date. But I really believe 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.119 that the quality of our lives depends a lot on 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:10.720 the quality of our conversations, both with ourselves and with others. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.879 So get out there and go be chatty in my honor. Please. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.520 You know, I've been thinking about Larry King a lot lately. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.560 He was the one that taught me so much about 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:26.240 questions and conversation. And I end the podcast. I don't 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.120 know if I shared this maybe on the first episode 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.240 I did, but I end the podcast every day with 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.080 or every week with today's a good day to have 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.160 a good day. In his honor. He used to say 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.879 that when I went on his show, we all cheers 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.480 with our coffee mugs and said a little cheers, and 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.439 that was his and I've never forgotten it, So I 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.480 really mean it. Today's a good day to have a 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:57.040 good day. Go get them. Okay, you know what time 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.960 it is. Today's a good day to have a good day. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:01.480 I'll see you next week.