1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: This is John the og story Time podcast host. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and we got some great stories coming up. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: But before that, we got a teeny two minute break 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep this show propped up like 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: a little house. 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 3: Oh you. 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: My sister asked for a wedding favor last minute, but 9 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: she refused to cover my flight. 10 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 4: First class only. 11 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Jesus I, twenty four female don't know where to begin. 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Recently I started listening to these am. 13 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 5: I the Ahle videos. 14 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: My sister and her fiance twenty four female are planning 15 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: a small Vegas wedding this October. She only first brought 16 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: it up yesterday afternoon, so this is all very last minute. 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: And last night they told me nothing was concrete yet, 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: but this morning had already escalated. By the way, this 19 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: comes from Okay Caterpillar eleven seventy two, and if you 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: want to spit your own stories, go to the r 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime supparate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Vincent, and 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: we're here to give good advice. Goofy, But we don't 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the 25 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: common for context, I'm a professional photographer. I've taken plenty 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: of photos for my sister and her fiance before for free, 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: especially when I was starting out, but now this is 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: my career. I normally charged two fifty for a standard session, 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: which is about the cost of a flight to Vegas, 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: and one thousand dollars or more for weddings. When they 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: mentioned the wedding, it was implied I'd be doing it 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: for free and paying for all of my own travel 33 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: and hotel. I haven't actually asked them to cover my 34 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: flight yet, but when I asked if the date was 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: at all flexible, since they had just said nothing was 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: finalized and I'll already be in Vegas a month later, 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: her fiance called me a b and acted like I 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: should have known for eight years that this was their 39 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: special date. I genuinely had no idea. On top of that, 40 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: because it's during the week, I'd also have to miss 41 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: classes to attend. It's not the end of the world, 42 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: but it's another factor. I love my sister and her 43 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: fiance and want to support them, but it feels unfair 44 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: to be expected to work for free, cover all my expenses, 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: miss class, and then get insulted just for asking about flexibility. 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: I haven't brought up covering the flight yet, but now 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm worried that if I do, it'll come across as selfish, 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: even though the cost of the flight is the same 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: as what I charge for a basic session, and I'd 50 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: still be giving them way more than that in free photos. 51 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: So would I be the aole if I asked them 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: to cover at least my flight? Or is this just 53 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: a family mean, just sacrifice type of situation? And how 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: do I even approach this without making things worse? And 55 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: at it, they are planning on having a bigger wedding 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: in a few years, with more family and friends, more traditional, 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: et cetera. They're wanting to get married now for benefits 58 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: like health insurance from my sister's job. And there is 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: an update. But do you have any thoughts? 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say, Hey, I'm going to 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 4: photograph your guys's wedding for free. If you guys could 62 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: help me out with the flight, that would be much appreciated. Yeah, 63 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: even if it's like not the full flight, if you 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: can get like one hundred bucks one hundred and fifty 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 4: bucks to make at least make it easier on you, Yeah, 66 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm pretty i'd be pretty upset that they want me 68 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: to work at their wedding and not pay me. 69 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: That's true, but this kind of sounds like a very 70 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 4: small like yeah, like they're gonna do a bigger one 71 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: later though. 72 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to shoot that one too well. 73 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: Hopefully they are. They're a point later. If they can 74 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: pay for a bigger venue, they can pay you for that. 75 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 5: Update. 76 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, This is an update to my original post 77 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: about photographing my sister's last minute Vegas wedding. A lot 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: has happened since then, and I realized there was much 79 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: more backstory and context that I didn't originally include. First, 80 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: I want to clarify that the person causing all the 81 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: major issues is not my sister, but my sister in law, 82 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: my sister's now wife. She was the fiance in my 83 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: original post. My sister has her moments and plays a role, 84 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: but the conflict and disrespect almost always comes directly from 85 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: her wife. When I posted last the wedding was still upcoming. 86 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: I did end up going to Vegas, and I brought 87 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: my boyfriend along. We honestly had a great time together. 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: That part of the trip was actually wonderful. However, the 89 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: wedding itself was a extremely thrown together. They gave me 90 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: barely any notice, never communicated what photos they wanted, never 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: gave me a timeline, and didn't even tell me when 92 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: or where anyone would be getting ready. There was absolutely 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: no plan at all. It wasn't a situation where I 94 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: was supposed to know the timeline. There literally wasn't one. 95 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: We also weren't anywhere near each other while getting ready. 96 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: Anyone familiar with the Venetian in Las Vegas knows how 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: massive it is. I was staying on the palazzo side 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: and my sister in law was staying in the Venetian 99 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: tower on the opposite end of the property. He never 100 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: texted me or asked me to come take getting ready photos. 101 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: There was no communication. Now she's furious that I didn't 102 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: somehow show up automatically. She's acting like it was common 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: sense for me to wander a giant hotel, hoping I 104 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: would magically know to come into her room at the 105 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: right time. After the wedding, I sent her a sneak 106 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: peak of about sixty edited photos a week later because 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: she requested them right away. When I sent them She 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: made me screen share the entire gallery for almost two 109 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: hours while she nipped every photo, told me exactly which 110 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: one she wanted edited immediately. I did it just to 111 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: keep the peace. Today, at around nine am, out of nowhere, 112 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: she called me and completely erupt it. She told me 113 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: I need to give her all the photos right now, 114 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: accuse me of pretending to be a professional, and called 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: me a seat word repeatedly. She said talking to me 116 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: is like talking to a wall, and then hung up 117 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: on me. There was no discussion, just straight yapping for context. 118 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: I charged her three hundred dollars for the wedding, even 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: though my normal wedding rate is fifteen hundred dollars or more. 120 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: There was no contract, no timeline, no deadlines discussed. She 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: knows I'm overloaded with school and internship, my photography business, 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: and my living situation. She also knows I'm barely holding 123 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: on academically, close to failing classes, and I genuinely need 124 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: to graduate in the spring because I need health insurance. 125 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: My priorities right now genuinely need to be my school work. 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: Despite all of that, she expects her photos to come 127 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: before everything else. Unfortunately, this kind of explosion from her 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: isn't new. A few weeks after we got back from Vegas, 129 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: we all went out for Halloween. Both of us were 130 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: running behind because of separate family events earlier in the evening. 131 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: On the way to her house, I accidentally got bronzer 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: on my white tights while doing makeup in the car. 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: When I got there, I asked if I could use 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: a makeup wipe, and she told me to wait while 135 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: she looked for my cellar water. She then disappeared outside 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: for nearly an hour to smoke Devil's lettuce. Okay, okay, 137 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: so she said, I'm gonna go get my cellar water 138 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: and then never comes back. Yeah, the makeup wipes were 139 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: sitting on the bathroom counter, and she owns one hundreds 140 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: of them, so said she didn't return. I used one 141 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: single wipe to get the scene off. Later in casual 142 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: conversation I mentioned how well it worked. She immediately flew 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: into our rage, demanding to know why I touched her 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: stuff without asking, calling me a witch, and accusing me 145 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: of violating her boundaries over one makeup wipe. I apologized 146 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: and offered to buy more wipes, but she wouldn't stop. 147 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: I made an offhand joke that I sounded like my 148 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: younger sister for a second, and she snapped back, now 149 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: like your mother. I haven't spoken to my mother in 150 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: almost eight years. She knows all of this. There is 151 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: no world where that comment was anything but deliberately cruel. 152 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: I immediately went silent and locked myself in the bathroom 153 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: until I could calm down. She has never apologized. This 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: wasn't the first time she's used extremely personal, painful things 155 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: as ammunition, and part of why everything she does hits 156 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: so hard is because of something that happened earlier this 157 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: year that I haven't fully explained until now. Back in March, 158 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: I was about to move into an apartment I had 159 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: signed a lease for before realizing it was in a 160 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: dangerous neighborhood, broken windows, bad street activity, the works. The 161 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: very next day, I found a house listed in my 162 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: dream neighborhood, a small, two bedroom home for nine hundred 163 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: dollars a month, absolutely unheard of where I live. I 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: viewed it. The landlord loved me, and he picked me 165 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: out of other applicants. But I panicked because I thought 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't break my lease and no that was an option. 167 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: So I immediately and stupidly called my sister in law 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: and offered the house to them instead. They weren't even 169 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: looking to move. They still I led months left on 170 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: their lease, and I had to convince them to even 171 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: consider it. Within an hour of hanging up, I realized 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: I had made a huge mistake. I was crying and panicking, 173 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: realizing this was the one place I could afford and 174 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: my only shot at living alone. I begged them for days, 175 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: sobbing and pleading on the phone, explaining that I would 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: have nowhere to go when my current place ended in 177 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: two weeks. They ignored all of that and took the 178 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: house anyway. They make over one hundred k year combined. 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: They could afford dozens of other options. I make a 180 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: fraction of that opie. You literally begged them to take it. 181 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: You begged them to take it. This was the only 182 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: house I could afford in that neighborhood. I did eventually 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: break my original lease, but it didn't matter. The house 184 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: was gone. They signed it and moved into it, while 185 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: I moved into a tiny bedroom at my grandma's house 186 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: with a toddler she fosters. Every time I go to 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: their house, I am reminded it should have been mine 188 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: and to make it sting worse, they used the second bedroom, 189 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: the room that would have been my office, as a 190 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: devil's lettuce smoking storage room. They never acknowledged how badly 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: they hurt me, not once. I don't think you can 192 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: be mad about this one. You've gotta be honest. I 193 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: don't think that you can be mad about this one. 194 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: I still don't really understand why you begged them to 195 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: take it. 196 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 4: Oh, p you moved because you were or that you've 197 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: made decisions based on not complete information and reactionary and 198 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: came back to bite you in the butt. And now 199 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: you have to sleep in the bed you made. 200 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, in your grandma's house, in. 201 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 4: Your grandma's house with a toddler. 202 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: All of that has been sitting in the background of 203 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: every interaction I have with them. So when my sister 204 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: in law calls me, names, insults, my work, mocks my trauma, 205 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: or explodes over something trivial, it isn't happening in a vacuum. 206 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: It's happening on top of the most painful housing experience 207 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: of my life, my financial struggles, my academic stress, and 208 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: my general mental health issues. I have so little family 209 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: as it is. My grandma, my dad and my two sisters. 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: So losing the relationship with my sister feels terrifyed of 211 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: being treated like this is becoming unbearable. I don't know 212 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 2: what to do anymore. I feel like my sister in 213 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: law has zero respect for me at all. I feel 214 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: like everything I do is in service to their convenience, 215 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: not out of general care now and not out of 216 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: genuine care. And now even the wedding photos something I 217 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: did out of love and for a fraction of my 218 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: normal rate, I've become another way for her to belittle 219 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: and control me. I'm exhausted mentally, emotionally, and physically. I 220 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: don't know if I should finish the photos and go 221 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: low contact, confront her, talk to my sister privately, or 222 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: just step away entirely. I don't want to blow up 223 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: my family, but I also don't want to keep being 224 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: the punching bag for someone who seems committed to hurting me. 225 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 5: And that's the end of that story. 226 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: I called out my mother in front of everyone and 227 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: embarrassed her in the process. 228 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Want to do this time? Mother? 229 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: To preface this, my mom and I have a good 230 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: Relationshipn't that only problem is my mom is the type 231 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: to share news about what's happening in my life despite 232 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: me asking. 233 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: Her not to. 234 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: Classic I don't like my life being discussed like it's 235 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: an everyday topic, and I find it especially creepy when 236 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: people that I really don't know well, like friends or 237 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: coworkers of my mom, approach me in public and start 238 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: asking me about something that I never told them about myself. 239 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from username radiant disaster six fourteen. 240 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 241 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Vincent, I'm Sophia, 242 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: and we are here to give good advice goofy, but 243 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: we don't got all the answers. We only know what 244 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: we would do, so tell us what you would do 245 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: in the comments. And these aren't little things like I 246 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: started a new hobby or I'm planning to take a vacation. 247 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 4: These are big events that are really no one else's 248 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: business but my own. For example, when I was eleven, 249 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 4: I got my first period. She told everyone all about 250 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: it on Facebook and couldn't understand why I was so 251 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 4: embarrassed and didn't want to talk to her about anything 252 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 4: else that happening in my life. As a result of 253 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: this habit, she has also developed a habit of sharing 254 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: my good news with people before I had a chance 255 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: to do it. I told her I got accepted into 256 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: the College of my Dreams, and she told everyone what 257 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 4: happened before I had the chance. She did it again 258 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: then when I got engaged a few years later, and 259 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: she even told everyone our wedding day before we had 260 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: a chance to send it out in invitations or form 261 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 4: a guest list. My husband has sided with me whenever 262 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: I've asked her to stop doing this and to stop 263 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: sharing news that I or we don't want shared. We 264 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 4: want to confide in her and have her in our lives, 265 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: but her inability to contain her excitement is really driving 266 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: us up a wall. Now onto the reason behind this post. 267 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 4: Me twenty four female, and my husband, twenty four male, 268 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: have been together for six years. We met in college, 269 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: hit it off, dated for four years, and have been 270 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 4: married for two years. We've agreed that we are going 271 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: to focus on our education and careers and not have 272 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: any children. Neither of us see our futures including kids, 273 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: and that hasn't changed in the six years we've been together, 274 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: despite every every one insisting we change our minds or 275 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: catch baby fever once our friends start having kids. My 276 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: husband has five siblings, three brothers and two sisters, and 277 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: they all have kids, yet our minds haven't changed. My 278 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: mom is one of the people who is adamant that 279 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: we'll change our minds and have kids someday, and she 280 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: makes it very clear she wants to be a grandmother 281 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: at every opportunity she gets. I can understand her wanting grandkids, 282 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: and as her only child, I understand why she only 283 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: has me as her living family, which means her whole 284 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: world really revolves around me. My dad passed away when 285 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: I was six from injuries in a car accident, so 286 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: it's just been me and my mom ever since. She 287 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: wanted more kids after I was born, but my parents 288 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: didn't have the money or the time to raise more children, 289 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: and as a result, she doted all over me. Despite 290 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 4: telling her many times that kids aren't in my future plans, 291 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: my mom insan that it's going to happen. Every little 292 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: thing I complained about from working crazy schedule hours because 293 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: I travel a lot for work. She hints that maybe 294 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: it's not just fatigue or a headache or motion sickness 295 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: that it's the first signs of pregnancy, and that I 296 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: should take a test. I am not pregnant and haven't 297 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: even had so much as a scare since my husband 298 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: and I are very careful. This past summer, however, something 299 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: health wise didn't add up to my usual traveling fatigue. 300 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: I stopped getting my periods, so I took a pregnancy 301 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: test and it was negative. I took two more tests 302 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 4: when I missed two more periods, and they were all negative. 303 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: I also noticed I was getting a small belly despite 304 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: not having any changes in my diet or exercise routines. 305 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: I was thoroughly exhausted and felt like I was constantly 306 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: on the verge of getting the flu. 307 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta go to the doctor because that might 308 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: be like a camp stumer or something. 309 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: Well, and I agreed that. Her husband and her agreed 310 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: to go see the I made appointment near the beginning 311 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 4: of November of this year. Told my doctor what I 312 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 4: had been noticing, the negative tests and the miss periods, 313 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: but I was certain I wasn't pregnant. She agreed to 314 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: run a blood test to rule out pregnancy and confirm 315 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: that I was in fact not pregnant. It was then 316 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: She and my gynecologists agreed that I need to have 317 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: an ultrasound to see what was happening inside my abdomen. 318 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: That's when they discovered a very large fibroid tumor growing 319 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: in my uterus. 320 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: Yep. 321 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Whenever, if you ever women, ladies out there, or people 322 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: that have uteruses, if you ever have an experience where 323 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: you're notice like wakean pregnancy symptoms like or like pregnancy 324 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: signals like not getting your period and stuff, and you 325 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: are you know, not pregnant, No, you're not pregnant, have 326 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: taken tests. It's usually a tumor and get that checked out. 327 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: The tumor was about the size of a softball and 328 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: had grown in such a way that it was essentially 329 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: plugging up my pelvis and preventing my monthly period from escaping. 330 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 4: My doctors agreed I needed surgery to have the tumor removed, 331 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: but that I'd have to wait a few more weeks 332 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: for the procedure. My surgery was scheduled for this past Saturday, 333 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: November twenty ninth, and since then, I've had the surgery 334 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: and I am recovering well in bed with my husband 335 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: at my side. Due to the surgery taking place. After 336 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: this past Thanksgiving, and since I was no longer traveling 337 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: for work, my husband and I were able to go 338 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: to my mom's house and celebrate the holiday. That also 339 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: meant I was able to go out shopping with my 340 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: mom and buy groceries and prepare a meal since she'd 341 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: be hosting it and my aunt's uncles and cousins over 342 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: for the day. Well, you can guess what happened. She 343 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: saw that I had a bit of a belly growing 344 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: on me. She got all excited and insisted that we'd 345 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: go look at baby clothes, even though I told her 346 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: I was not pregnant. It took me telling her repeatedly, 347 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: getting a little louder each time, before she stopped trying 348 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: to drag me to the baby section of the store. 349 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: I told her that I I was going through something 350 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: very personal and that I wasn't going to tell anyone 351 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: in the family, including my husband's side, until after Thanksgiving. 352 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: She kept badgering me to tell her what was really 353 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: going on, but since she has a track record of 354 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: not being able to keep sensitive information to herself, I 355 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: didn't tell her. I again reminded her that I was 356 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: waiting until after Thanksgiving. Pass to share the news. She 357 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: seemed fine with it. We finished our shopping and that 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: was that, at least I thought so until Thanksgiving dinner 359 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: a few nights later. This is where the a hole 360 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: part may come in. My family gathered at the table 361 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: and having a good time talking to each other, having 362 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: some food, and just catching up on everything. I wasn't 363 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: eating as much as I want because of the impending surgery, 364 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: and of course I wasn't drinking any wine. 365 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 3: Again. 366 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: My mom took this as another sign I was pregnant, 367 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: no nausea and avoiding booze, and kept hinting it at 368 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: the table. I put my hand on her, looked her 369 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 4: in the eyes and reminded her yet again that I 370 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 4: wasn't pregnant. But she got this look like I get it, 371 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: you want to keep it a secret and seem to 372 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: be set in her ways. 373 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: It's right, you're not pregnant. I'm not, aren't woo. 374 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: There's so there's something like I know what's gonna happen next, Yeah, 375 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: and she's gonna be like, why didn't you tell me? 376 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: And you're gonna be like I told you literally. 377 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: Fifty times, I was not pregnant. 378 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: I was not pregnant, but I didn't. 379 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: Realize that meant that you weren't pregnant. 380 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: Just as the desserts were being brought out, my mom 381 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: decided that she want to share what we were thankful 382 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 4: for for that year. That's a tradition in our family, 383 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: and it's not unusual for people to speak up at 384 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: dinner at the dinner table, But when it came to 385 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: my mom's term, she blurted out the lies she had 386 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: been believing and held up a brand new baby onesie 387 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: that she had been hiding somewhere in the kitchen to 388 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 4: announce my non pregnancy to my family everyone. He got 389 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: all excited for me and turned to congratulate me and 390 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: my husband, and I had enough. I told everyone up front, 391 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: loud and clear, that I wasn't pregnant. I told them 392 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: I had been telling my mom for days that I 393 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: wasn't pregnant and that I had a different matter going 394 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: on that I wanted to keep quiet until after the holidays, 395 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: but if she insisted that we all share news of 396 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: what we're grateful for, I was going to speak next. 397 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: I told everyone I was grateful for having such a loving, 398 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: supportive husband at my side, who was helping me through 399 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 4: my current health scare and impending surgery, and that he 400 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: was doing it without blabbing about it to our entire family. 401 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: In the process, I said, I was grateful to have 402 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: someone in my life who actually listens to what I 403 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: say and doesn't insist that he somehow knows better than 404 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: I do, especially when it. 405 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Comes to my own health. 406 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: After that, I just got up from the table and left. 407 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: My husband followed me androge and held his arm around 408 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: me the entire drive home as I cried in frustration 409 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: at what my mom did and how she again embarrassed 410 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: me and tried to usurp what I thought was good 411 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: news from me. We got home, I cried some more 412 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: and went to sleep and turned off my phone so 413 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: I could focus on preparing for my surgery and not 414 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: stress about anything. The surgery was a success, nice the 415 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 4: tumor was removed and determined to be benign augh, But 416 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: due to its size and location and how much it 417 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 4: ingrained itself in my uterus over the past six or 418 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: so months, I had a partial hysterectomy. Ow During my recovery, 419 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: I've begun to wonder if I was too harsh on 420 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: my mom for calling her out in front of the family, 421 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: but my husband insists that since I've tried to put 422 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: up with that particular boundary of not sharing my personal 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 4: news with other people for most of my life, and 424 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: since she continues to cross it, I am not the ale. 425 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: I still feel bad, though, and I want to reach 426 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: out to my mom, but I don't know what to say. 427 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: We have an update. 428 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 429 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 4: First of all, thank you everyone who weighed in and 430 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 4: helped put my mind to ease. For those who shared 431 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: their own stories, I'm sorry you went through something terrible 432 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: as well, and I'm glad you're all doing much better. 433 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: It's reassuring to know that my comment, while harsh, was warranted. 434 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: Stop telling me my mom is horrible. This negative incident 435 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: and the others I mentioned are just a handful of 436 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 4: events that are greatly overshadowed by all the wonderful things 437 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: my mom has done for me. She's not a perfect parent, 438 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: but she never once made me feel as if I 439 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: was unloved or unwanted. She helped me when I cried 440 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: over losing my dad, even when it felt like I 441 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: was crying every day. She helped me when I cried 442 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: over losing my dog. She held me when I cried 443 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: over breaking up with my first boyfriend. She attended every 444 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: basketball game I ever played, never missed a special event 445 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: in my life at school or in my social life, 446 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: and she supported me throughout college without ever asking for 447 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: anything in return. She went well out of her way 448 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 4: to help me find the perfect wedding Betty, when I 449 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: was stressed out over planning my wedding. She always took 450 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: care of me when I was sick or injured. She 451 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: even gave shelter to one of my friends who was 452 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: in a dangerous family situation, and she did it without 453 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: expecting anything in return. She also volunteers down at the 454 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: local animal shelter to help take care of cats and 455 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: dogs that need extra love. She did a terrible thing, 456 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: but that doesn't mean she's a terrible person. Another amendment, 457 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: I am not going to go no contact over this situation. 458 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: A lot of people suggest this after having decided that 459 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: I don't understand my own relationship with my mom by 460 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 4: reading this one post. I'm not going to cut her 461 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: off after I finally work up the nerve to call 462 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: her out. If she doesn't change her ways, then I 463 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: simply won't confide in her. But I will not cut 464 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: her out of my life completely. Yes she did reach 465 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: out to me, and yes she did apologize. She sent 466 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: flowers to my hospital room the day after my with 467 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: an apology card and texted an apology as well. She 468 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: admits that she was way out of line and that 469 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: she doesn't listen to me, and she has promised from 470 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: now on she'll do better when it comes to listening 471 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: to what I say. I'm willing to give her the 472 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 4: benefit of the doubt and give her a second chance. 473 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: My recovery is going well. I'm still having some pain 474 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: through my abdomen, especially around the incision site, but I 475 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: have no infections, negative side effects, or postoperative complications. My 476 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: husband has been taking care of me. His parents have 477 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: stopped by to help with errands and make sure I'm 478 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: resting well and just keep me company while I'm recovering 479 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: on the couch all day. My mom stopped by and 480 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: brought me my favorite cheese cake to help me feel better, 481 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: and genuinely seems apologetic for what she said and did. 482 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: I think, at the end of the day, I think 483 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: you can have whatever relationship you're comfortable with having with 484 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: your mom. It's just knowing what you can and can't tell. 485 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 4: Her breaking through in this way. Yeah, the little verbal 486 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: Smacky gave her is working. To those of you share 487 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: your own stories of needing a similar surgery as I did. 488 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: I am glad to know others went through what I've 489 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: gone through and are thriving. It gives me hope that 490 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: now that the surgery is over and that tumor is 491 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: out of my body, I'll start feeling like my old 492 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: self again. Thank you for all of your input. I 493 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: will consider having my mom and I sit down to 494 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: have a discussion not as a mother and daughter, but 495 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: as person to person when it comes to respecting boundaries. 496 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: A lot of you have pointed out that my mom 497 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: seems to have and meshed herself into my life, and 498 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 4: you're right. After my dad passed away, I was all 499 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: she had left since our extended family lives out of state. 500 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 4: I'll suggest she speaks to a therapist or a grief 501 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: counselor so we can work on ridding ourselves of our 502 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: own demons. 503 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: And that is all, and that's all she wrote. 504 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think some therapies. Yeah, it would be 505 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 4: good for. 506 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 2: The loss of your father. And then are you know 507 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: grappling with the change of relationship with your mom. And 508 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 2: but we've got another story coming right up. 509 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: My father saw something he was never supposed to and. 510 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 7: Now he's furious. 511 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: Rah, that's your father. 512 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 6: He sounds like you buck. My dad fifty two male 513 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 6: walked in on me, twenty six male, having spicy sleep 514 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 6: with my girlfriend twenty five female, and now he's being weird. 515 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 6: We're out of town and all staying in the house 516 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: that my girlfriend and I are paying for him. We 517 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 6: thought we were going to be alone for a few 518 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 6: hours because that's what they told us. And he was 519 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: opening doors without knocking. By the way, this comes from 520 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 6: Throwaway Oh two six seven five, And if you want 521 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: ubmit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 522 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: storytime subredd it. I'm Carly, I'm Angie, and we're here 523 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: to give good advice goofy. But we don't have all 524 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 6: the answers. We only know what we would do, so 525 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 6: let us know what you would do in the comments. 526 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 6: I can move past it and be an adult. It's awkward, 527 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 6: but whatever. My dad just feels really weird about it, 528 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 6: which I understand because I feel weird too. I just 529 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 6: think he might be taking it too far, and I 530 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: want this to stop. 531 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 5: To be fair, it. 532 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: Wasn't exactly spicy sleep, and I think I would rather 533 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 6: him see me having spicy sleep than what he saw. 534 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 6: I don't want to describe it graphically, but I was 535 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: going down on my girlfriend. Both of us were being vocal, 536 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: and it was a little bit kinky. I was very 537 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 6: into it. It was overwhelming to see. I'm sure all 538 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 6: of us were embarrassed. My girlfriend cried, but after a 539 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 6: second we were fine. My father is acting absolutely insane. 540 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 6: A few hours later, mind you, after I had cleaned 541 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 6: myself up and changed my clothes, I hugged my grandma 542 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 6: and kissed her cheek, and he told me to stop. 543 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: He is being weird about my girlfriend of four years 544 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 6: sitting next to me, or me putting my arm around her. 545 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 6: I took a sip from her cup, and he looked 546 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 6: like he was gonna puke. The worst is my cousin 547 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 6: saying I should consider growing out a beard, and my 548 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 6: dad slammed his hand on the table and walked outside 549 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 6: for context. I like body hair, and my girlfriend has 550 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 6: body hair, and my father saw me with my face 551 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 6: buried between her legs, so I think that was just 552 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 6: too much for him. It's things like this, with many 553 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 6: more examples if they're needed. I thought we could move 554 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 6: past as adults. But I think I need to talk 555 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 6: to him. I just don't know what to say. I 556 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 6: can apologize for him having to see that, though I 557 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 6: don't even know. 558 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: If that will work. 559 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: Would it be better to just. 560 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 6: Keep pretending that never happened, or should I confront him? 561 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 6: And if I do confront him, what should I say. 562 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 6: It's a little bit much if you ask me, and 563 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 6: I'm sure my mom would just laugh it off. But 564 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 6: he's acting like it's the end of the world and 565 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 6: we have some comments. 566 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 8: Oh god, my thoughts are just I'm really really hoping 567 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 8: that this never happens to me, either situation, either role. 568 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 7: I hope I've never involved in a situation like that. 569 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 7: Oh God, I don't know. 570 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, you can grow up a little bit. 571 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 8: But also, like, if it's really bothering you, which understandable, 572 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 8: if it is, take a second to just be away, 573 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 8: just separate from each other. If a beard comment is 574 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 8: gonna throw you like that, like come on. 575 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: Comments, remind him two things. One, you and your girlfriend 576 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: rent it the house with the intention that it would 577 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 6: be just the two of you for privacy, you know, 578 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 6: to do adult things with each other. Two doors were 579 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: invented for a reason, privacy that a normal person understands 580 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 6: that a closed door means you knock and wait for 581 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 6: permission to come in. He needs to get over what 582 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 6: he wasn't meant to see and stop acting like it 583 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: wasn't his own fault. OPI replies, Yeah, I don't think 584 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 6: I've emphasized to him, let alone my entire family enough 585 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 6: that we paid for this rental because we didn't want 586 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 6: to stay with the rest of my family and my 587 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 6: girlfriend liked the pool. Our plan was to stay away 588 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 6: from everyone except when we needed to swim and have 589 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 6: spicy sleep. That has unfortunately changed. Also, that's a good 590 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 6: point I didn't even think about. I mean, yes, it's 591 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 6: a given that he should have knocked, But like in 592 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: the rental that I paid for, my man just walking 593 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 6: in rooms when you know we're alone and we have 594 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 6: an update, I would also counter, and I'm not on 595 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 6: your dad's side, but lock the doors. It's been a 596 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 6: relatively boring few days with a fairly hilarious conclusion. First 597 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 6: and foremost, thanks to everyone for the advice. I was 598 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 6: a weird spot when I posted, and I'm thankful that 599 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 6: I had someone to talk to and the different opinions 600 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 6: helped a lot. I didn't reply to everyone, but I 601 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 6: definitely read every single comment. I spoke to my girlfriend 602 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 6: the night I posted, and we had a really good 603 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 6: talk about it. After reading some comments together, we ultimately 604 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: decided that if he couldn't act right by dinnertime the 605 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 6: next day, he would have to go stay with his 606 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 6: brother for the remainder of the visit. She was sad 607 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 6: and uncomfortable with how things transpired, but she was really 608 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 6: tough during all of this, and I love her heaps. 609 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 6: The next day, he was weird, but not to the 610 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 6: extent of the first day. I figured he was getting 611 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 6: over it, and as long as he kept his silliness 612 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: to himself, we'd be fine. Funny enough, my mother and grandmother, 613 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 6: Dad's mom pulled me aside and asked if I knew 614 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 6: what was up with my dad. This might have been 615 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 6: the most manipulative thing I've ever done, but I don't 616 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: even care because it worked. I put on my best sheepish, 617 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: embarrassed look and told them that Dad was upset because 618 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: he accidentally saw my girlfriend and I having spicy sleep, 619 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 6: and we felt so terrible, and my poor girlfriend was 620 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 6: so embarrassed. One thing led to another, and my father 621 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 6: was being scolded by his wife and his mother for 622 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: embarrassing that poor girl and acting like a powdy. 623 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 7: Brat about it. 624 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 6: Okay, I have to say, that is exactly what he did. 625 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 626 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 6: I don't think that was wrong or manipulative at all, 627 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: she cried. 628 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. 629 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 7: That's not manipulative at all. That's exactly what you should do. Yeah, yeah, perfect. 630 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 6: My tiny grandmother smacked him. 631 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: It was glorious. Oh my god. 632 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 6: This ended in laughter and giggles. My mom thought it 633 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 6: was hilarious. After she was done being irritated with my dad, 634 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 6: all of my extended family found out and laughed. My 635 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 6: girlfriend especially was relieved. He apologized privately to both of us. 636 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: It was a good time. 637 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 6: When everyone was widening down for the night, I pulled 638 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 6: my dad aside to talk with him over some crappy 639 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 6: adult soda. He was embarrassed, of course. He apologized for 640 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 6: acting the way he acted again, and I sort of 641 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 6: just wanted an explanation. I told him I was mad 642 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 6: because I know he's not usually like that, and he 643 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: was being weird about the smallest things. I apologized for 644 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: him having to see us like that, but told him 645 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 6: it was ultimately his fault for bursting into rooms without knocking. 646 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 6: A huge point I made was that this house was 647 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 6: rented because my girlfriend and I didn't want to be 648 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 6: squished with everyone in my uncle's house. But we ended 649 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 6: up squished with a few less people and unable to 650 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 6: enjoy the tranquility we so desired. Though my girlfriend has 651 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 6: practically not left the pool, so at least she's enjoying 652 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 6: herself there. We allowed them to stay with us with 653 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 6: no complaint, and it was immature for him to be 654 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 6: acting the way he was. He apologized again. He just 655 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 6: said he didn't know what came over him. As I mentioned, 656 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 6: it wasn't exactly vanilla. It was a little kinky, and 657 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 6: he said it was jarring to see and hear. His 658 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 6: thought process was interesting. Also, wait, see and here he 659 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 6: was here and stuff. He still opened that door. 660 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was wondering that too, because Opie said that 661 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 8: they were both making some noises, So like, do you 662 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 8: not hear that before you get in there? 663 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: Still open the door? Yeah? Come on. 664 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 6: And for those of you wondering why he walked in 665 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 6: and whether or not he could hear us, I have 666 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: an explanation. He absolutely could hear us. I didn't explain 667 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 6: this in my post, but everyone, all six of my brothers, 668 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 6: their girlfriends, and my parents had left for a few 669 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 6: hours to go to my uncle's house among three different cars, 670 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 6: and my girlfriend and I stayed back and were going 671 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 6: to join them at dinner time. My father had forgotten 672 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: something at the rental and his group had to come back. 673 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: He ran inside to grab it and heard spicy sleep 674 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 6: noises immediately. So again, he has seven sons were all clones. 675 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 6: Sometimes he cycles through all of their names before he 676 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 6: says the right one, and sometimes he never even gets there. 677 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 7: In his head. 678 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 6: He knew my girlfriend stayed but could have sworn that 679 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 6: I was in the car with my mom and that 680 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: my oldest brother stayed behind. He was angry for me 681 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 6: at my brother and fully opened the door, thinking he 682 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: was going to catch so by Oh. 683 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: My god, that is a crazy excuse. 684 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: I kind of believed him, but that's. 685 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 7: Still a crazy that's get still, Oh my god. 686 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 6: Instead he opened the door and saw my girlfriend sitting 687 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 6: on my face, and unfortunately froze and stared and processed 688 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 6: until he figured out which son it was and did 689 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 6: proper son girlfriend association and saw it absorbed way too 690 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 6: many details of my girlfriend's unclothed body in ecstasy. 691 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: This is crazy. 692 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 6: He felt like a creep on top of being embarrassed, 693 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 6: and he regretted cataloging everything, thinking he'd need to remember 694 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 6: every detail to recall it to me. Additionally, the dirty 695 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 6: talk was extra and a lot for him to handle 696 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 6: in any form. While I still think his behavior was 697 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 6: not warranted, it made a lot more sense to me, 698 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 6: And honestly, he is a real one for willingly entertaining 699 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 6: an embarrassing situation under the guise of protecting his son. 700 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 7: So that's it. 701 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 6: It was a lot less malicious than I originally thought. 702 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 6: Everything is back to normal, except we're all making. 703 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: Fun of my dead. 704 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: We didn't have to punt anyone out. Plus we've discovered 705 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 6: that we get the house to ourselves most days because 706 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 6: everyone leaves, so we've just been doing our thing. We're 707 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 6: still here for a few more days, and my girlfriend 708 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 6: just wants to swim and have spicy sleep, and I'll 709 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 6: be happy to make that happen. 710 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: Nice and that's the end of that story. All right, Well, 711 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm glad that everyone was. 712 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 7: So happy and laughy about that. 713 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 5: That you want. 714 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 7: That's crazy, That is so so crazy. 715 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 8: I really like, I can't even imagine how my family 716 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 8: would react like that. I don't know if we'd be 717 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 8: able to laugh about it like that. 718 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 6: I don't and certainly wouldn't be telling the entire Yeah, 719 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 6: he had so many brothers, and you're saying you're telling 720 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 6: the entire extended family. 721 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 7: You you're what one of seven? Yeah, that's what you say. Insane? 722 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 7: Oh God, insane. 723 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 5: And that's the end of the story. We're going on 724 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 5: to the next one. 725 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: Sam. 726 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 3: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. 727 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: But here's three minutes bads from our sponsors. 728 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 8: A DNA test for fun exposed a family secret, and 729 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 8: it changed my life forever. 730 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 9: WHOA did you find loyalty in your DNA? 731 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: I think not. 732 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 8: I twenty five female, moved across the country, away from 733 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 8: my family. It was just a change I needed. I 734 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 8: felt like I was stagnating. I didn't know what I 735 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 8: wanted out of life, but I knew I needed change. 736 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 5: I'd been living on my. 737 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 8: Own for years, but it was the first time I'd 738 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 8: really been away from my parents. 739 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 5: By the way, this. 740 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 8: Comes from and throw Away twenty two seventeen. And if 741 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 8: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 742 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 8: r slash Okay Storytime, Separate it. 743 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 9: And I'm Angie, I'm Keon, and we're. 744 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 8: Here to give good advice Goofily, But we don't have 745 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 8: all the answers. We just know we would do in 746 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 8: this situation, so let us know you do in the comments. 747 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 8: OHP says I was excited and nervous about the move. 748 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: I'm not good at change. 749 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 8: I'm a nervous person in general, and I like the 750 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 8: comfort of routine and stability. I know who doesn't. Before 751 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 8: I moved, I stayed with my parents for about a month. 752 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 8: My sister had taken one of those twenty three ME tests, 753 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 8: and she was telling me all the cool things that 754 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 8: she had. 755 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 5: Learned about herself. 756 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 8: I had been curious about those tests for years, mostly 757 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 8: for the genetic health analysis that they do. 758 00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 5: I know that might be. 759 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 7: A gimmick, but it was on sale and I decided 760 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: to order a kit. 761 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 5: I spit in the stupid thing. 762 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 8: Send it off, knowing it would be a while before 763 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 8: I heard anything back. I had other things to worry 764 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 8: about with the move, and I eventually forgot about it. Well, 765 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 8: I move out and the adjustment was kind of rough. 766 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 8: A new area, a new job, new people. I was 767 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 8: a little overwhelmed. But about a month in I started 768 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 8: getting my footing. I came home from work one night 769 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 8: and saw the email from twenty three and meters telling 770 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 8: me my. 771 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 5: Results were in. 772 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 7: I had forgotten about it and was excited to see 773 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 7: what it said. 774 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 5: I go for the health results. 775 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 2: First. 776 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 8: Turns out I have some pretty good genes. Maybe I 777 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 8: get glaucoma, but I passed everything else, so that was cool. 778 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 8: I then head over and look at my origins and 779 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 8: found no surprises. I was kind of disappointed, to be honest, 780 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 8: the test was not that interesting. I didn't really care 781 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 8: about my DNA relatives, but I decided to take a peek. 782 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 5: Anyway. 783 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 8: My sister would be on there at least, and she 784 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 8: was first one on my list. It was so expected 785 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 8: that I just glanced over her name, more curious to 786 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 8: see other matches. Well, my second match was my grandfather, 787 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 8: and it was a name I had never heard before. 788 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 5: I was confused. 789 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 8: I looked back at my sister and realized that it 790 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 8: said half sibling. I well, oh, fell sick. I know 791 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 8: that my sister is my dad's daughter. She inherited a 792 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 8: genetic condition from him. I went through a little denial. 793 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 8: Maybe the test was wrong. Google said that wasn't likely. 794 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 7: After a few tears, I had to accept that I 795 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 7: had a biological father. 796 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 5: Out in the world that I never knew about. 797 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 8: I found out that my parents had lined to me 798 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 8: for twenty five years. And the fact that they just 799 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 8: let me move all the way out here knowing full 800 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 8: well I can expand on how I know they knew 801 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 8: long story that I would find this out has made 802 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 8: me so angry. Instead of talking this out with me, 803 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 8: they left me alone to deal with it on my own. 804 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 8: I still haven't gotten to talk to them in person 805 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 8: about this. That's been especially hard to cope with for 806 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 8: some reason. 807 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 5: Anyway, it took. 808 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 7: Me about a week to confront my mom. 809 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 8: I guess it's hard to empathize with my situation unless 810 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 8: you've been through it. It almost felt like grieving in 811 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 8: a way. It felt like I lost my dad. I 812 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 8: know he's still my dad, he loves me and I 813 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 8: love him. And the fact that he raised me while 814 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 8: knowing I wasn't. His says a lot about his character. 815 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 8: He's always lived by impeccable moral principles, and I've always 816 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 8: tried to be as good of a person as he is. 817 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 8: To this day, I can't really pinpoint why this has 818 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 8: had such an effect on me. 819 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 5: You would think that I could just. 820 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 8: Say, oh, okay, well, I know who my dad is, 821 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 8: and he's great and I love him, so it doesn't matter. 822 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 5: But I can't. 823 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 8: My mom was surprisingly forthcoming about the situation. She had 824 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 8: enough fair gee Wilker's Batman, what where did that come from? 825 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 8: My biological father was married too. It didn't last long, 826 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 8: and my biodad didn't even know I existed. She said 827 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 8: they hadn't talked since, but she could find him on 828 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 8: Facebook if I wanted to contact him. It took me 829 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 8: a day to think it over, but ultimately I knew 830 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 8: I had to know. 831 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 5: I don't know why, but. 832 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 8: I just couldn't have this information in my head and 833 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 8: not learn more about who my biodad was, so I 834 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 8: had her message him. Since then, I've been in contact 835 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 8: with him every day. He is a wonderful person. I 836 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 8: expected him to not want to contact with me. 837 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 9: Is really a wonderful person who had an affair when 838 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 9: he was married. 839 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, as he has a family and my existence is 840 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 8: not exactly an easy thing to explain. 841 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: I was prepared for the worst, but instead, I don't know, I. 842 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 7: Got probably the best outcome one could hope for. 843 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 8: He wants to be a part of my life. He 844 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 8: wants to get to know me and make up for 845 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 8: lost time. We've already talked a lot. I've told him 846 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 8: about my life and I've learned about his. He lives 847 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 8: pretty far away, but he has visited me a few times. 848 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. 849 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 8: Things just clicked with him. We are actually pretty similar people. 850 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 8: I do look like him. We get along really well, 851 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 8: and he's definitely gone the extra mile to make me 852 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 8: feel loved and cared for. I'm not good at people, 853 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 8: but getting to know him has felt easy and natural. 854 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 8: So that should be about it, right. Things worked out 855 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 8: for the best, and I should be happy that I 856 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 8: have so many people who care about me. But I 857 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 8: have these conflicting feelings and I just can't put them 858 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 8: out of my head. 859 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 7: I've decided to move again to be closer to him. 860 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 9: WHOA I'm confused, Why are you yearning for this new development. 861 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 9: I mean sure, because I know you wanted to change 862 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 9: your life, and you're like, my life's a constant, but 863 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 9: you already had a father to begin with. Yeah, but 864 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 9: you also are now yearning for this relationship with your 865 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 9: biological father. 866 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 3: That you held opie op ohp. You got this test at. 867 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 9: Like twenty five, twenty five? Yeah, you hit twenty five, 868 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 9: and you're like, this is the change that I wanted. 869 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 8: I want the chance to spend time with him and 870 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 8: get to know him better. I'm really excited about the move. 871 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 8: Things have worked out really well on that front. But 872 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 8: I just talked to my dad, the one that has 873 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 8: raised me. That's another hard thing. The term dad is 874 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 8: way too confusing to me now, and I can tell 875 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 8: that he's not exactly happy about the move. 876 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 5: And I can't blame him. 877 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 8: He's spent his entire life raising me, and now all 878 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 8: of a sudden, I'm seeking a relationship with my biofather, 879 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 8: the man my mom cheated on him with. 880 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 5: That's got to be pretty tough. 881 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 3: I there we go. Okay, it answers my That was 882 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 3: my question. 883 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 8: Mike. 884 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of weird, But. 885 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 8: Do you like for the dad's perspective at least. Yeah, 886 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 8: I thought about just not telling him that I'm moving, 887 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 8: but that's a why that I just can't keep up with. 888 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 8: I couldn't just not tell him. The longer I waited, 889 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 8: the worst it was going to get. I almost feel 890 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 8: like I'm going through some kind of identity or existential crisis. 891 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 8: For twenty five years, my parents looked at me, and 892 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 8: in the back of their minds, they knew where I 893 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 8: came from. I came out of a shameful and regretful mistake. 894 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 8: I am the living reminder of some of the worst 895 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 8: times of their life, and that's true for my biodod too. 896 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 8: He has gone out of his way to assure me 897 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 8: that it's not my fault, and then I'm not responsible 898 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 8: for any of this. 899 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 5: But isn't the end result the same. 900 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 8: If they could take back the circumstances of my conception, 901 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 8: I'm sure they would. I can't help but think that 902 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 8: I am a life that no one wanted to exist. 903 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 5: I don't actually belong anywhere, so now I don't know 904 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: what I'm doing. 905 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 7: I've never been a happy person. 906 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 5: Life has been rough. 907 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 8: I like to say I'm resilient, but I think I'm 908 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 8: just fragile underneath it all, and stuff like this really 909 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 8: throws me. I don't think I'm mature enough to navigate 910 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 8: whatever this is. I don't want to hurt anybody, and 911 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 8: I can't tell if I'm being selfish. 912 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: I don't know what to do. 913 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 7: What would a normal person do if they were in 914 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 7: my shoes. 915 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 8: I've just been taking it one day at a time, 916 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 8: but ever since I found out about this, it's consumed 917 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 8: my life. There are some comments though I can't imagine 918 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 8: what you're going through, but your father who raised you 919 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 8: didn't make a shameful and regretful mistake, and you're not 920 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 8: necessarily a reminder of some of the worst times of 921 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 8: their lives. You're a reminder to your mother that the 922 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 8: man who raised you actually loved you both, actually loved 923 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 8: both you and her enough to stay and be a 924 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 8: real father to you and a real husband to her 925 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 8: despite what happened. There's every chance that the father who 926 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 8: raised you is going to see this as not only 927 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 8: a betrayal from you, but a reminder of something he 928 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 8: thought he put behind him a long time ago. What 929 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 8: kind of relationship do you want to build with your 930 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 8: newly found biofather. What kind of reminder do you want 931 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 8: to be for him and his family? What kind of 932 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 8: relationship do you expect with the father who raised you 933 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 8: now that you've decided to be closer to your biofather, 934 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 8: Ohpi responded, I honestly don't know how to answer your questions. 935 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 7: This has thrown me from day one. I don't know 936 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 7: what I want. 937 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 8: I have this new information, and I've just taken it 938 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 8: one day at a time. My biofather wants to get 939 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,479 Speaker 8: to know me, and I'm obviously curious about him as well, 940 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 8: so I guess I've just been doing that. I don't 941 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 8: want my relationship with my dad to change at all. 942 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 8: When I found out, we talked about it exactly one time. 943 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 8: I cried over the phone to him, told him that 944 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 8: I loved him and that he would always be my dad. 945 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 8: We still talk over the phone all the time. He's 946 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 8: so important to me and I want him to know that. 947 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 8: But I moved away from him and the rest of 948 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 8: my family a year ago for unrelated reasons, and I 949 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 8: guess it's easier to move again because I've been gone. 950 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 8: I don't intend for this move to be permanent. I 951 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 8: have no goals yet I'm still trying to figure out 952 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 8: my life. I'm not happy living where I am, and 953 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 8: I have the new information and a chance to do 954 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 8: something with it. It feels like if I don't get 955 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 8: to know my bio dad, I will spend the rest 956 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 8: of my life wondering. 957 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 7: I can see that it would cause pain. 958 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 5: To my dad, and that's hurting me inside. 959 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 8: I've been depressed for the last years since I found out, 960 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 8: and I feel like the only way to get answers 961 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 8: for my life would be to investigate this. 962 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 5: That's why I made this post. 963 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 8: Maybe someone could understand the situation I'm in and tell 964 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 8: me why I'm so effed up over this. 965 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 5: Not sorry. 966 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 9: The only way you can do then figure that out 967 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 9: is legitimately seeing a professional So you're genuine like, I'm 968 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 9: one for the depression and for you to be like, 969 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 9: I don't know how to feel about this, I don't 970 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 9: know how to process this. I'm still trying to figure 971 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 9: it all out. Even if you talk to your biodad 972 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 9: and get that relationship with your biodad, I genuinely think 973 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 9: you need to see a professional therapist to get that 974 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 9: all out there and see what they can. 975 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 3: You know, what they can do for you. 976 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, and if anyone in the comments has been in 977 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 8: this situation, please come download your experiences with it, because 978 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 8: we can only guess. 979 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy. 980 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 9: I feel like people have tried to sue twenty three 981 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 9: and me or like those DNA things because of stories like. 982 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 5: This, because they would like reveal affairs. 983 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 9: Affairs or like someone cheated or something like that. Along 984 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 9: they're like, what, something doesn't add up? 985 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 3: And you know you find. 986 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 8: The thus not twenty three and me as fault. 987 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 5: No, they're fault at all. 988 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 3: It isn't, but a lot of people try. 989 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 9: I think I've tried to sue that is so those 990 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 9: type of companies. 991 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 5: That is hilarious. 992 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 7: And that's the end of this story. We're going on 993 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 7: to the next one. 994 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 9: My mother banned me from talking to my siblings after 995 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 9: I got pregnant. 996 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 5: After too late, I think. 997 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 9: Hi, I'm a twenty seven year old woman who's had 998 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 9: a non traditional upbringing. I'm the oldest of six siblings, 999 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 9: all by different dads. When I was seven, my mom 1000 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 9: got arrested and lost custody of my brother and me 1001 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 9: for about eight years. By the way, this comes from 1002 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 9: user Fetis ninety eight and if you want to submit 1003 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 9: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay story Time, suprettit, 1004 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 9: I'm key On, I'm Angie, and we're here to give 1005 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 9: good advice. 1006 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 3: Goofully. 1007 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 9: He don't have all the answers. We only know what 1008 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 9: we do, so let us know what you'd do in 1009 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 9: the comments. During this time, my brother, who's two years 1010 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 9: younger than me, and basically my best friend and I 1011 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 9: were separated and placed into different foster homes until our 1012 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 9: biological dads could find the time to get us. My 1013 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 9: brother moved to another part of the state, while my 1014 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 9: bio dad dropped me off at his mom's house to 1015 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 9: raise me as he went across the country to work. 1016 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 9: Until I turned fourteen, I spent every Wednesday for two 1017 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 9: hours having monitored visitation with my mom and once a 1018 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 9: month with my brother when his dad would show up. 1019 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 9: As a teenager does I resented my my grandmother ran 1020 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 9: away from that home. I was bunching between friends' couches 1021 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 9: for a couple of months till my dad somehow sold 1022 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 9: me to my mom for a couple grand sold oh 1023 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 9: Man a couple grands She then had custody of me, 1024 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 9: and a few years later the same with my brother. 1025 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 9: In this time, she had my little sister and met 1026 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 9: another man and married him. He was a police officer 1027 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 9: with a bad drinking habit. She had a son with 1028 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 9: him about five years later, but went on to meet 1029 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 9: a married man and jump ship to him and his 1030 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 9: two daughters became my sister. Seless to say, it's complicated, 1031 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 9: sounds like it very but all of this created a 1032 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 9: very tight bond with my siblings and became what I 1033 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 9: believed was an unbreakable relationship from trauma. When she jumped 1034 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 9: shipped to the current husband, I was eighteen and ready 1035 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 9: to be an adult. I met some pretty face salesman 1036 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 9: and traveled the country, making dumb financial choices and even 1037 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 9: dabbled into substances to see why my mom would risk 1038 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 9: her kids for the fun. It didn't last long, maybe 1039 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 9: a couple of years. As I grew to hate not 1040 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 9: being in control. I wanted to prove a point that 1041 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 9: I just wasn't my mom a salesman and I were 1042 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 9: no So we parted ways and I became roommates with. 1043 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: My best friend. 1044 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 9: I was twenty two and doing what I presume most 1045 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 9: women do at that age, drinking and chatting with the 1046 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 9: plenty of fish in the sea. I met someone who 1047 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 9: was fun, I got pregnant and never saw him again. 1048 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 3: Lucky me. 1049 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 7: Oh boy boy. 1050 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 9: Three years past, and I'm back with my mom, dreaming 1051 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 9: of the cult compound and living with my siblings forever, 1052 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 9: because that was my mom's dream since she lost custody 1053 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 9: of my brother and me. Yet we couldn't even afford 1054 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 9: it due to the many court case battles that are 1055 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 9: still ongoing to this day with her ex and my 1056 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 9: stepfather's ex wife. As I'm terrified of the idea of 1057 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 9: thirty and single, I then meet the man I am 1058 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 9: with now. My daughter adores him and calls him Dad, 1059 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 9: and he very much takes care of us and has 1060 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 9: on many occasions helped my family with small deeds, teaching 1061 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 9: a car battery, getting my brother a good job mowing 1062 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 9: their lawn when my stepfather was out of town. We dated, 1063 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 9: moved in together, and now I'm currently pregnant with his 1064 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 9: first son. He and I are elated, but when I 1065 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 9: went to tell my parents, they began to act like 1066 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 9: he was a cancer my life. My mom has the 1067 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 9: idea that he is too much like the wonder her 1068 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 9: exes and made jokes about him to me where I 1069 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 9: now know I made the mistake by not nipping that. 1070 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 9: In the beginning, she was my best friend and I 1071 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 9: would run to her when him and I had a 1072 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 9: shallow argument about literally anything, working too much, nagging, or 1073 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 9: not texting quick enough. Betty, I know, but where your 1074 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 9: family is, where you feel the most comfortable, it slips out. 1075 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 9: I now wish I never said a peep. As soon 1076 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 9: as I said I was pregnant, my mom told me 1077 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 9: to leave him, called him all the names in the book. 1078 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 9: It broke my heart and was a complete one eighty 1079 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 9: from how I was treated when I was a single mom. 1080 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 9: For my daughter, I assumed she would be elated, but 1081 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 9: soon learned she has disdained For my partner. She went 1082 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 9: as farda, not once asked me how my pregnancy is doing, 1083 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 9: and now ignoring my three year old daughter and myself 1084 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 9: when we text. My partner texted my mom and stepdad 1085 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 9: as he was out of town for work and wanted 1086 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 9: to clear the air to understand why there is bad blood. 1087 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 9: My mom directly texted him slurs and demanded he come 1088 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 9: speak to them in person at her house. My partner 1089 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 9: offered to get them lunch after being. 1090 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 3: Called those slurs. 1091 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah what. 1092 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 9: My partner offered to get them lunch or meete at 1093 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 9: a public space, as he had grown to know my 1094 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 9: mom had and she had her tendencies to manipulate the truth. 1095 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 9: To the court, he explained he wasn't confident in their 1096 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 9: current situation to be put in a position where it 1097 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 9: could be manipulated. I read all the messages and as 1098 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 9: if someone set up a nuclear bomb, my mom called 1099 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 9: him a kiddy and blocked him and infronted me even 1100 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 9: on Monopoly Go, and convinced all my siblings to begin 1101 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 9: ignoring my text. I went over to my mom's without 1102 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 9: my partner to have a face to face and brought 1103 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 9: my daughter along to see them. We began the chat 1104 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 9: as if it were a normal day nails, hair, siblings, 1105 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 9: school life, but she was texting my stepdad to leave 1106 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 9: his golf game and rush over. The very first footstep 1107 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 9: my stepdad made through the door, my mom made a 1108 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 9: scene as if we were in a mid argument, shouting 1109 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 9: about how stupid I am to be with him. I 1110 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 9: was in shock, literally speechless. The previous sentence had been 1111 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 9: light hearted, and now I was being cussed at and 1112 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 9: berated with questions about how my decisions are affecting her 1113 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 9: and my daughter's well being. Luckily, my daughter was outside 1114 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 9: with my youngest brother, so I sat and waited for 1115 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 9: a chance to speak, not letting it get to me. 1116 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 9: I got a half a sentence out, saying he and 1117 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 9: I have had many conversations. Then I was cut off 1118 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 9: and told that she didn't acting care. She began to 1119 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 9: rant again, and seconds later my daughter and brother came 1120 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 9: running in to follow my stepdad, who stayed quiet but 1121 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 9: hugged my daughter. 1122 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 3: I quietly got up, grabbed. 1123 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 9: My keys, and hugged my brother and apologized he had 1124 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 9: to witness the scene. I then grabbed my daughter's hand 1125 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 9: and began to leave. My mom yelled, so now you're leaving. 1126 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 9: I turned and looked at my three year old daughter 1127 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 9: and back at my mom and said I will not 1128 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 9: tolerate being cussed at as I am an adult. She 1129 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 9: actually bewildered and said really. She continued on, but I 1130 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 9: promptly got into my car and left. I haven't heard 1131 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 9: a peep from my stepdad, but got lengthy text from 1132 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 9: my mom about how I'm holding her emotionally hostage and 1133 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 9: how my partner is stealing me away, and that the 1134 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 9: house is still an open door. But now none of 1135 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 9: my siblings will respond to me, and my mom has 1136 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 9: gone as far as to convince my grandparents not to 1137 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 9: respond either. I think there is definitely a power dynamic 1138 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 9: with your your entire family, and your mother is head 1139 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 9: haun show, which I again, that makes sense. Yeah, But 1140 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 9: the fact that she's like, don't talk to my daughter, 1141 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 9: none of this, don't talk to OPI. She's bad, but 1142 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 9: she says, then she says, oh, we have the open door. 1143 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1144 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 9: I think it's showing the true colors of who your 1145 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 9: mom is. The fact that you found someone who supports you, OPI, 1146 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 9: and wants to be there for you and is good 1147 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 9: to your daughter, it's incredible. And the fact that she 1148 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 9: can't see that. I don't know, there's a little bit left. 1149 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 9: Let's go ahead and fish it up. I spoke to 1150 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 9: one of my sisters who was at a ballgame during 1151 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 9: the in house visit, and she said she was told 1152 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 9: by Mom never cussed at me. It was repeated to 1153 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 9: her several times. She's young and honestly doesn't care about 1154 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 9: who did what. I'm throwing a baby shower in a 1155 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 9: few weeks for our son and feel lost as I 1156 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 9: believe none of my side will be there for me. Sincerely, 1157 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 9: I'm lost and feel like I'm in the wrong for 1158 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 9: not putting up with my mom's behavior. So I can 1159 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 9: still have a relationship with my siblings. What do I do? 1160 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 9: We have some comments. I mean, they're adults. They can come. 1161 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 9: You can send you know, you can said to Olive 1162 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 9: Ranch and have them come. But if they don't like, 1163 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 9: don't expect them to, which sucks, but you can't force 1164 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 9: them to do it. They can make their choices. They 1165 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 9: can talk to you. They shouldn't be afraid to talk 1166 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 9: to you. From your mother's standpoint, comment, Okay, firstly, you 1167 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 9: are not the cause of your mother's awful, self absorbed 1168 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 9: person and I'm very sorry. It feels super harsh for 1169 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 9: me to say without wishing any ill on your mother's health. 1170 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 9: If you can forgive your siblings for what she manipulated 1171 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 9: them into doing, there is a future of your dream 1172 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 9: family cult compound. For now, it's just closing the door 1173 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 9: and not expecting anything other than exactly what they show 1174 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 9: themselves to be time and time again. I hope you 1175 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 9: don't let this precious time with your new family be 1176 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,720 Speaker 9: anything but the miracle celebration it is with safe friends 1177 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 9: and new future family. And that is the end of 1178 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 9: that story. 1179 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 5: Well well said. 1180 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, you have a new family to 1181 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 3: focus on. 1182 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 9: Does suck, But for the sanity of your daughter, the 1183 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 9: sanity of your new partner, you. 1184 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 5: Just try to rebuild. 1185 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 3: Focus on that. 1186 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the end of this story. 1187 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 7: We're going on to the next one. 1188 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 3: Hey y'all, it's John og Host here. 1189 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 4: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's a 1190 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 4: quick three minute break from as for more sponsors. 1191 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: My roommate won't stop complimenting me and it's starting to 1192 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: make me uncomfortable. Thank the comment, Riley says, tag the compliment. 1193 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 2: So I have this roommate. She's twenty eight, I'm twenty. 1194 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 2: We met for the first time and she was decently friendly. 1195 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: She was really nice. She called me pretty and was 1196 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 2: all smiles. 1197 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: Oh, she just has a crush on you. 1198 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from c Relative sixty five 1199 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: one twelve for one two and if you want to 1200 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: spit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 1201 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 2: storytime Separate. 1202 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 5: I'm Sophia, I'm Riley. 1203 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 3: I'm key on and. 1204 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 2: We're here to give good advice, Schoofley. But we don't 1205 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 2: have all the answers really know what we'd do, so 1206 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 2: let's know what you would do in the comments. 1207 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Op says. 1208 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 2: After living with her for a few months, I've realized 1209 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 2: she comments on my appearance constantly, not in a mean way, 1210 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: not spicy or insulting, just frequent. My hair looks so thick, 1211 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 2: my skin is glowy, I have a nice body. Stuff 1212 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 2: like that. 1213 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: I want to wear your face. 1214 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: Always positive, always said casually, okay. For some reason, she 1215 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 2: uses my products too that would be annoying. Mostly hair 1216 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: care or skincare, like shampoo, conditioner, moisturizer. That's annoying. She 1217 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: doesn't empty bottles or anything dramatic, but it's noticeable. I'll 1218 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 2: finish your product faster than expected and think, oh right, 1219 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 2: she's been using it too. Recently, I just started keeping 1220 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 2: my shower and skincare products in my room because of this. 1221 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: She only really comes into the shared spaces when I'm there. 1222 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 2: If I'm in the kitchen making dinner, she'll come make 1223 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 2: dinner at that time as well. She makes small talk 1224 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 2: when she's out there with me, but if my boyfriend 1225 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 2: is over, she stays a little while as well. She 1226 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: doesn't talk much, just sits on her phone, makes tea, 1227 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 2: slowly wipes the same spot on the counter, just. 1228 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 1: Like she just wants a friend. 1229 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 2: O whe a little too much. 1230 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking the ahole right now. 1231 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 2: I feel like that's I don't think so, because she's 1232 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 2: using her products and that that's really like if you 1233 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 2: I think it's okay if it happens once in a 1234 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 2: while where you're, you know, run out of toothpaste or 1235 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 2: you run out a shampoo and you need like some extra, 1236 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: that's fine. But consistently using someone's products, I think that's 1237 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 2: kind of like not paying for them. That's an ail move, 1238 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 2: like she's waiting on something but nothing ever actually happens 1239 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,439 Speaker 2: because she's out there. I feel like I can't kiss 1240 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: my boyfriend or cuddle him, which is frustrating, but I 1241 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 2: haven't said anything. The thing where she kind of stands 1242 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 2: outside my bedroom door is another concern. Wait, what if 1243 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 2: my boyfriend and I are in my room with a 1244 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: door closed. Sometimes I see a shadow of her feet. 1245 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, she stops there for a minute or two. 1246 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 2: No knock, no sound, and then she walks away quietly, 1247 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 2: like she didn't want me to notice. This has happened 1248 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 2: a couple of times when I was alone as well. 1249 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 2: You need to get a lock on your door. 1250 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,280 Speaker 10: Okay, okay, this is weird. 1251 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 5: It's weird. 1252 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: It's weird. 1253 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: I thought she wanted to she just needed a friend. 1254 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: It's getting weird, all right. 1255 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: The staring? 1256 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: Wait, where's the line? Where are we putting the line 1257 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: aut before we ask her to leave? Is this the line? 1258 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 3: The line's been cut? When I don't know? I think 1259 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 3: I don't think the line is. 1260 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: I don't think that she's reached the line. But we're 1261 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: like on our way. 1262 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: Where's the line? Where's like? This? 1263 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 2: Is it where she like actually like goes into your 1264 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 2: room and takes something? 1265 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 9: Okay, an what if she tries to take your boyfriend? 1266 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 5: Oh? 1267 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: This thing she likes me. 1268 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't think she likes it too much. The staring 1269 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 2: is another thing. Not long, just a few seconds that 1270 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 2: feel too long. If I'm sitting on the couch, I'll 1271 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: feel her looking at me, and then when I turn 1272 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: she'll look away. 1273 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: Oh she has her crush on you. 1274 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: That's creepy. My boyfriend thinks it's a little weird too, 1275 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: but he hasn't been around enough or seen her enough 1276 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 2: to come to a concrete conclusion. I'm not scared of her, 1277 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: She's never been rude, ring, but I still find some 1278 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 2: of these things really odd. 1279 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 5: I still have a. 1280 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 2: Full year left on the lease, so I guess I'm 1281 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 2: trying to figure out if this is just normal roommate 1282 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 2: oddness or something more specific that I don't really have 1283 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 2: a name for yet. Probably nothing, but sometimes I wonder 1284 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: if anyone else would think this is weird, or if 1285 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 2: it's only weird because I'm noticing it. I'm not sure 1286 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: how to approach this, or if I even should. If 1287 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 2: you want, I can provide some context and comments. She 1288 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 2: sunds awkward and like she has a crush on you. Yeah, yeah, 1289 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that'd be intolerable for me. Opie says, I 1290 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 2: just thought maybe she was awkward, but like, after actually 1291 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 2: thinking about it, yeah, she probably has a crush on me. 1292 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 2: I think it just comes off as cocky if I'm 1293 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 2: just jumping to the conclusion that she has a crush 1294 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: on me, but clearly it indicates she does. Comment Wo says, please, 1295 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: none of this behavior is as tame as a crush. 1296 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: All the things you describe are both creepy and route. 1297 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: He wants to live inside your skin. Nopee, all do 1298 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: this is not normal. Please leave the shared situation as 1299 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 2: soon as you can. This is her being normal. People 1300 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 2: always ramp it up. Opie says, it isn't normal behavior. 1301 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 2: But I think before I jumped to the conclusion that 1302 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 2: she's crazy, I should talk to her. Comment three says, yeah, 1303 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 2: sounds like she likes you and doesn't know how to 1304 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 2: approach it. The standing outside of your room thing is 1305 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: creepy as crap, though I don't know how close you 1306 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: actually are to her, so I don't know if a 1307 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 2: convo about this would be normal for you guys to have. 1308 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 2: Of course, if it is making you extremely uncomfortable, then 1309 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 2: by all means speak to her. But she also sounds lonely, 1310 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: and her waiting for nothing seems like she wants to 1311 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 2: be included in the hangout or something. Opie says, I 1312 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 2: mean she does this when I'm alone too, that's the thing. Plus, 1313 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 2: it's like I'm with my boyfriend. She knows it's my 1314 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 2: boyfriend and that we're spending like a couple time together. 1315 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to hang out or something if it 1316 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 2: was just us or if one of my friends was over. 1317 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, Reply says, have you ever hung out together 1318 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 2: one on one as in a planned hangout? Opie says, 1319 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: not really. I mean I didn't Milly things. She'd find 1320 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: stuff that I like to do fun as well, considering 1321 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 2: she's a little older and I didn't really get the 1322 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 2: vibe that she's into the stuff. 1323 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 5: That I am. 1324 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 2: We mostly just talk to each other and have conversations 1325 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 2: here and there at our place. Comment for it sounds 1326 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: like she wants to be part of a couple time 1327 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: or two, or more accurately threttle time. I either lean 1328 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 2: into that if you're adventurous in that way, or have 1329 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: a serious conversation with her about boundaries. Leaving things the 1330 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 2: way they are seems like a recipe for just making 1331 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: you and your boyfriend increasingly uncomfortable. Reply says, I don't 1332 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 2: know if I'd go as far as spicy sleep thing, 1333 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: but I do agree based on Opie's info, that she's 1334 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 2: either into her and or it is just socially awkward 1335 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 2: and wants to be included. It's not that uncommon for 1336 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 2: a dynamic, although given the age gap. I'm leaning towards 1337 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: the social awkwardness and being lonely. And again, Opie's roommate 1338 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 2: is twenty eight and Ope's twenty. 1339 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: I could. I don't know, so I think it's a 1340 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: little bit. 1341 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 2: Weirder because there is that age gap where she's and 1342 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 2: she's actalized. 1343 00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 5: Opie. 1344 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 2: If you were to a convo with her, I suggest 1345 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 2: you ask her if she'd like to be included with 1346 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 2: you when you and your boyfriend are hanging out in 1347 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 2: a shared space, but then establish clear boundaries that when 1348 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: you and your boyfriend are alone, you'd like some privacy. 1349 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Totally mention now you notice that she's creeping at your 1350 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 2: door and that you're uncomfortable with that, because I think 1351 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 2: that will give her a little wake up call. And 1352 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: there is an update. 1353 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 5: So let's let's see. 1354 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Ah, let's see if any progress is made. I told 1355 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: a couple of people on my post I made earlier 1356 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 2: that I would update so here it is. Gosh, this 1357 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 2: is kind of weird to be sharing with random strangers. 1358 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: But we ended up talking about an hour ago. It's 1359 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 2: not a fight or anything, just a conversation. We are 1360 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 2: both in the in the kitchen and I asked if 1361 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 2: we could sit down for a minute. I told her 1362 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 2: I really like living with her and that she's been 1363 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 2: nothing but kind to me, but I have some concerns. 1364 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I like this, Yeah, good stuff. 1365 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 6: Ida. 1366 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 2: I brought up the products that were clearly being used, 1367 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 2: how I've noticed her standing outside my room sometimes and 1368 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 2: how it makes me uncomfortable because my boyfriend and I 1369 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 2: are in there and we're not always just sleeping. I 1370 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,919 Speaker 2: also mention now she tends to only come into shared 1371 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 2: spaces when I am there or when my boyfriend is over. 1372 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 2: I said, I appreciate the compliment she gives me, but 1373 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: the combination of everything was just starting to feel off. 1374 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: She just stared at me for a second and then 1375 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 2: admitted it she has a crush on me and said 1376 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 2: she finds me really attractive. She said she loves being 1377 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 2: around me and thinks I'm really fun to be around. 1378 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: I called that from a mile away. 1379 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: She even admitted. She even admituted that that's why she's 1380 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 2: always in the kitchen or living room when I'm there 1381 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 2: or when my boyfriend's over. She said she was kind 1382 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 2: of jealous of my boyfriend because he spends so much time. 1383 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 5: With me, even though he doesn't live with us. 1384 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh. 1385 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 2: Then she admitted the part that honestly made my stomach draw. 1386 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 2: She said she would stand outside my door and listen 1387 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 2: to me and my boyfriend, I'm spicy sleep because she 1388 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 2: likes me and is attracted to me spicily. 1389 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow. Okay, yeah, you gotta leave. 1390 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 2: You gotta get out of there, get like a ope. 1391 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 2: I think at this point you need to get like 1392 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 2: a somewhat is sublet to because this is a boo. 1393 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,439 Speaker 10: Oh no, no, no, she's been she's been reading too much, 1394 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 10: like fan fixed stuff and like fantasizing. She's been fantasizing 1395 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 10: about you. 1396 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she denied using my stuff, but honestly, I'm not 1397 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 2: sure I believe her. I don't even know what the 1398 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 2: right reaction is here. I keep replaying in my head 1399 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 2: her admitting she stands there because she likes listening to me, 1400 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 2: like that is a normal hobby or something. It is 1401 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 2: messing with my head more than I thought it would. 1402 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 2: I genuinely would be like, I don't know if I 1403 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 2: can live with you. 1404 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 10: I am so disturbed, and I hate that I called it. Yeah, 1405 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 10: oh man, I might be. 1406 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 2: Finding I would be finding the fastest way to get 1407 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 2: out of this house. 1408 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: How do you even navigate being around her for the 1409 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: next couple of days? 1410 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no idea. 1411 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: You stay in a room. 1412 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 5: I would be so scared. 1413 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Have the boyfriend over all the time? 1414 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, stay over a boy really really scared? 1415 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Can you talk out of this as I don't know adults? 1416 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Can you be I'm not into you. 1417 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 5: I'm not into you. 1418 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 9: Too late it seems like she's done all she's into you. 1419 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 1420 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 2: She continues. Oh No, apologized and said she did not 1421 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 2: mean to make me uncomfortable. She told me she tried 1422 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 2: to be subtle and thought I might start to pick 1423 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 2: up on how she felt, which is honestly wild because 1424 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I had no idea. Plus I have a boyfriend. 1425 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1426 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 2: I told her I am with my boyfriend and not interested, 1427 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: and she said she respects that. 1428 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 6: Does she know? 1429 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 2: She said she will keep her distance and stop doing 1430 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 2: things that make me uncomfortable. I'm glad she didn't get 1431 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 2: angry or deny it, but I still don't really know 1432 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 2: how to feel about. 1433 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 7: All of this. 1434 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 10: Dude, if I had a roommate that liked me like this, 1435 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 10: I gotta go somewhere else. 1436 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: I can't it's kind of like just. 1437 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 2: The fact that she likes Ope. It's the fact that 1438 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 2: she purposely is doing things, maybe not intentionally, but is 1439 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 2: doing things that make Opie uncomfortable, like or just would 1440 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 2: make anyone uncomfortable, like standing outside of the room to 1441 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 2: listen to her. That's really really weird. At the end, 1442 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: before we got up, she said, if me and my 1443 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 2: boyfriend ever break up, she'll always be here for me. 1444 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh, of course, lovely. That's good to know. 1445 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: I don't really know how to take that. That is 1446 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: basically where things are at right now. I'm still processing. 1447 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: By the way, this was so awkward to have to 1448 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: write down, but I wanted to give all the details. 1449 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Definitely read my first post if you want this to 1450 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 2: make more sense. But that's the end of that story. 1451 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Good luck, op oh man. 1452 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 2: I would get there out. 1453 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 10: Of there as quick as you can, though, how would 1454 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 10: you navigate just being in the same area as her? 1455 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Though she says she's going. 1456 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: To back off, Yeah, I would, just like is she 1457 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 2: I'd probably avoided her as much as I could. 1458 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 9: I feel like, now that the truth's out, she's gonna 1459 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 9: even triple down on Yeah. 1460 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 2: I would have voider her as much as possible until 1461 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I could get out of there, Ahlie. 1462 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story.