1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have one of 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: my friends with me today from the Clay and Buck Network, 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz. She is not only a podcaster, but she 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: also has a few different columns in The New York 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Post and Fox News, and she's got a great personal story. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for coming on today. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: Hi, Tudor's so nice to be on with you. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: I'm excited because you have this great back story for 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: what is going on in the world right now, which 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I think is so important because so few of us 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: actually have this. I was reading a little bit about 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: your story and how you and your husband tell your 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: kids all the time, like you need to really appreciate 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: that you were born in America, and that to me 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: is something I don't think we get to hear and 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: we are so spoiled when we are born here in America. 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, I always think about this. So I 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: was born in Russia. My father's from Ukraine, and so 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: it's funny you say that I have a perspective from 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: a history about what's going on in the news, and 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm Jewish, so I care about as well. There's you know, 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: basically any war going on anywhere in the world affects 23 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 3: me personally. 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: So, right, But it's even the way you talked about 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: your grandmother coming here with her sister and the fact 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: that she could openly profess her faith and practice her faith. 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: It's like something we just take for granted, definitely. 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: So I was born in Russia and I came to 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: the US, and every single year we celebrate the day 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: that my mom and I arrived in America. And I 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: think about this because all I've ever wanted was my 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: kids not to have in America versary. I wanted them 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: to just be American day one and born here and 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: there's no other backstory. But I've come to think that 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: the backstory is kind of important because it makes me 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: appreciate I'm telling you. Daily I think to myself, how 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: lucky I am. 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: To be American. And that's a tough thing to achieve 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: when you've been. 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: Born here and you're just lucky enough to have started 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: your life here, which is what my kids are. But 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: I want them to take with them this idea that 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: they life's jackpot. This is the greatest thing that could 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: have ever happened to them. They're so so beyond blessed 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: to be American and I want them, even if they 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: don't have a date to celebrate that they arrived in America, 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: I want them to really appreciate how much they have and. 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: What it was all all the people that came before 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: them and did it for them, and that's really important. 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: So I think that's something that the left is using though, 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: and you've made this point too. It's like, hey, we're 52 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: all immigrants. We're all immigrants at one point, and immigrants 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: built this country and everything is built by immigrants, and 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: that we need to have open borders because of that. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: But you also recently, I'm just going to read something 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: that you wrote in one of your columns recently and 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: said there were no prepaid debit cards or free hotel 58 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: rooms for us. Someone had to sponsor us, and we 59 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: had to promise that we would not accept any public funds. 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: There was a system in place, and we followed it. 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: That to me, is something people don't generally hear. You 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: had to promise not to accept public funds. 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: Right, You're not allowed to get come here and get 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: on welfare. And I say this, I was a refugee, 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: so it wasn't like we were economic refugees. Oh, we 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: just wanted, you know, a better life for our kids. 67 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that was part of it. But we 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: Jews in the Soviet Union were persecuted. My parents weren't 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: allowed to go to certain schools, they weren't allowed to 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: hold certain jobs, they were sent away to different parts 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: of the Soviet Union to work, and you had no 72 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: kind of I mean, everybody had it rough in the 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: Soviet Union, but Jews had it especially. So we were 74 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: escaping actual religious persecution. And still when we got to America, 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: there was no sense of like, oh, we're owed something 76 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: or somebody needs to give us something. We understood that 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: what we were given is the chance and the choices 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: and the possibilities. 79 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: That America has. 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, and that should be the system. 81 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: You should have somebody sponsor you, and a lot of 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: times it has been like a religious agency. 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: Or a church or et cetera. 84 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: But now it's like we had this open borders for 85 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: all these years, and the people arrived here expecting something 86 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: like expecting not just the promise of America, but to 87 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: be taken care of, and. 88 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: They broke the rules to get here. 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: So another part of my story is we didn't just 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: come from the Soviet Union straight to America. 91 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: Italy agreed to take in the Soviet Jews that. 92 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Were leaving and have them apply from Italy to other countries, 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: whether or not they would be accepted. 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: And wait, I want to stop you for a second, 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: because you said they agreed to take the Soviet Jews. 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: There was just a small period of time where Jews 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: were allowed to leave, right. 98 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Exactly right. 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: It was a small window. And Italy wasn't saying hey, 100 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: come live in Italy. No, they weren't saying that at all. 101 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: They were saying, we can be the staging ground for 102 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: you to apply elsewhere. And Israel said, anybody who doesn't 103 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: get taken in by other countries, we will accept them. 104 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: Any Soviet Jew, you have a home in Israel. So 105 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: when you got to Italy, people applied to Australia and 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: Canada and America, and you had to prove that you 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: wanted to be in these countries, to prove that you 108 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: wanted to be American. 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't like imagine that, yeah, I know. 110 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: And it was like my parents, you know, had always 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: dreamt of being Americans. They had loved all the stories 112 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: of freedom and possibility, and you know, it's different than 113 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: what we've had, and I think we should go back 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: to a system where immigrants are welcome. 115 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: Sure, but they have to follow the rules. 116 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: They have to have the right reasons for being here, 117 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: and they have to want America to succeed. 118 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I think that's a really easy call. 119 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: And your dad left before you, you he was in 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the United States for a year before you. 121 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: Came, that's right. 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: My grandmother and her sister got permission first. And they 123 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: were older women. And you know, I say they were older, 124 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: they were in their fifties, but back then, fifties was 125 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: a very different look. I know, I'm like, okay, no, listen, 126 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: I'm almost there, but they were, you know, I had 127 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: to start their whole lives all over again. 128 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: They didn't speak any English. My grandmother's sister. 129 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: Was closing on on sixty and they got permission to 130 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: leave first. 131 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: And they thinking was. 132 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: They didn't want to go without my father, who was 133 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: the only child. But they know they got permission and 134 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: they my father said, you have to go. You're going 135 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: to help get the rest of us out. This is 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: how we're going to do it. They left first, then 137 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: my father got permission, Then my mother and I. 138 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: And these are to me. So this is the manipulation, 139 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: is these are the immigrant stories that we hear from 140 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the left, but they're not doing it this way. I mean, 141 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: this is not the same as having an open border. 142 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: And that's not to say that there are not people 143 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: that want to come across in this way, but the 144 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: open border creates a situation that is dangerous and hurts people. 145 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly it. 146 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: You can't have both an open border and an immigration 147 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: policy like the one that I came in on. 148 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: You can only have one of those. 149 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: And so for the last you know, however many years 150 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: we've had this open border, legal immigration was pretty limited 151 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: because we had this huge influx coming in. And I 152 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: don't blame Americans now for saying, hold on, let's. 153 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: Like we are up the border. 154 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: We have all these illegal immigrants here. Let's slow down 155 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: the legal immigration system too. I get that, I really do. 156 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: But the idea is that all those people who jump 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: the line are hurting others. And I'll tell you one 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: more quick story. My mom's sister stayed in Russia. She 159 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: had a son, she has grandchildren. She was never going 160 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: to leave because she would never see her grandkids. But 161 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: they wouldn't She couldn't get permission to visit my mom 162 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: in the United States. The US would not give her 163 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: permission because they assumed she would come on vacation and stay, 164 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: because a lot of people do that. She would have 165 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: never done that. But you know, my mom used to 166 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: joke she could just fly to Mexico and walk across 167 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: the border and nobody would say a word. But trying 168 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: to come to visit her sister legally was not possible 169 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: for her. I mean, that's the kind of system we 170 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: created by not having a system. 171 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Right, and I think that. I mean, we have the 172 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: same situation here in Michigan with a lot of our 173 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: immigrants from Muslim countries. They are like, because these people 174 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: broke the rules, now our family members are not trusted 175 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: to come and visit. I mean, that's exactly the problem 176 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: that people don't understand. So you when you did come in, 177 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: you came to New York. You lived in New York 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: your whole life, and I love the way you described 179 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: New York. You came into this kind of lawless city 180 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: where there were a massive amount over fifteen hundred murders annually, 181 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: and crime was out of control. It felt like it 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: was chaos. You were even through high school, you were 183 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: concerned about going out and drugs and robberies and murders. 184 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: And then you. 185 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: Talk about the political changes and the changes of Giuliani 186 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg and how there were years that were very 187 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: that New York was thriving, was it was becoming a 188 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: beautiful place to live, and then yeah, boss. 189 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: That's exactly how it went. So I arrived in nineteen 190 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: seventy eight. I'm one years old and a little under two, 191 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: and it's you know, I'm little, but I heard all 192 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: the stories about how my parents got to a city 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: that was crumbling. And Carter, Yeah, Carter as president. It 194 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: doesn't seem that America's on the right track at all. 195 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: They're very worried about the future. They don't feel like 196 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: they made a mistake, but they're definitely like, hmm, this 197 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: isn't going well. And then nineteen eighty happens and Ronald 198 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Reagan wins the election, and America is on a better track. 199 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: But New York takes a lot. 200 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: Longer the eighties and nineties. In New York, the early 201 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: nineties were very lawless. I you know, all my memories 202 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: are of like my grandmother clutching her bag because you 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: just it was a very common thing for someone to 204 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: run by you and snatch your bag. 205 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: And just I heard gunshots, I saw drugs way too early. 206 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: And I grew up in a fairly rough part of Brooklyn. 207 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: And it was all heading just downward, spiral. 208 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: And then Giuliani becomes mayor and the fact that he 209 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: even wins in New York City, people need to understand 210 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: how insane it was that a Republican could win in 211 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: New York City. But that's the hit rock bottom, and 212 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: that's where they had They had to finally elect a 213 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Republican and things start to change rapidly. You just do 214 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: see a different sense on the streets. Just quality of 215 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: life starts to improve. I mean something little like they 216 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't let subways leave the subway hub with the graffiti 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: on them. It changed the look of the city. Somebody 218 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: could spend all night graffitiing a subway train, you know, 219 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: a train car, and in the morning they would just 220 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: paint right over it. And that person who had just 221 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: wasted all this time because nobody was going to get 222 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: to see that. 223 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: That ended up. 224 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: Making people graffiti less frequently on the subways, and that 225 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: kind of thing really mattered, this broken windows theory. 226 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: It worked. It worked for so many years. 227 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: Giuliani was mayor for eight years, and then Mike Bloomberg 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: for twelve more years. Kind of coasted on all those achievements. 229 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: He did a lot of great things also, and I 230 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 3: actually don't want to say he coasted. He actually did 231 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: some really great stuff too. 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: And then Deblasio came in, and he. 233 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: Coasted for the first four years until his own policy 234 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: started to kick in and New York started to crumble 235 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: once again. 236 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: So I lived in New York in nineteen ninety nine 237 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: and two thousand and that was I rode the subway. 238 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: I didn't see any of the bad things to talk about. 239 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: It really was a beautiful time. And I think, and 240 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: that's my memories of New York are so great now 241 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: when I go back, or even when I see on 242 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: the news what's happening, the rise in crime and just 243 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: these policies that you talk about, Deblasio's policies of cashlest 244 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: bail and letting people back out on the streets and 245 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: not locking up criminals, and those things they matter, and 246 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: they matter so quickly, I mean, and that's the shocking 247 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: thing is Why is it so hard to understand that 248 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: these things matter? And then you have Mom Donnie who's 249 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: out there campaigning on having legalizing sex work. You just 250 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: think about letting criminals out and then having women as 251 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: these sex It was because we all know what that means. 252 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand how people don't say, Wow, how could 253 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: you have a system where you legalize pimps and have 254 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: women as slaves two men? I mean, this is insane. 255 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: How is this happening in New York City? 256 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 257 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: And New York keeps just trying these bad ideas, Like 258 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: New York is the only city in the country that 259 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: has legalized marijuana for use on the street, like you smell. 260 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: It somewhere so bad. 261 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's sad because you know, I would say 262 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: that a previous version of myself wanted to criminalize marijuana, 263 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: but nobody ever said legalize it for people to smoke 264 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: in front of kids' schools, which was exactly what was 265 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: happening when we lived in Brooklyn and I only moved 266 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: to Florida three years ago. We'd walk our kids to 267 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: school and people would be right there, you know, smoking 268 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: a fatty in the morning. And it was a different 269 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: New York than what had functioned, and you could see 270 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: the disarray developing, and all that kind of stuff goes together. 271 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,239 Speaker 2: Right, we don't allow. 272 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: People to drink in the streets, but for some reason, 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 3: smoking weed, which actually affects other people with its smell, 274 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: that's somehow allowed. And so all of this was just 275 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: And it's interesting about cashless bail. It was actually, you know, 276 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: Andrew Cuomo and then Kathy Hochel, they're the ones who 277 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: pushed the cashless bail, and they're sort of considered the 278 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: moderates of the democratic right. 279 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: People are like, well, would be better if Cuomo won. 280 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: Right, exactly what Deblasio did that really hurt the city 281 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: was he demoralized the police department. They didn't feel like 282 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: the mayor had their back at all. They just when 283 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: you have a demoralized police force, they're not doing their 284 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: job at a high level. And I think what's interesting 285 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: about this current race is that the current mayor, Eric Adams, 286 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: is deeply unpopular. 287 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: He can't crack ten percent in. 288 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: The polls, but he's actually done a lot with the 289 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 3: police department where crime level actually is down. He should 290 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: be running on that every single day talking about how 291 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: he works with the police Commissioner Tish and how she's 292 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: really a great police commissioner in New York police department 293 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: has become stronger and better under his command, under her command, 294 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: but under his mayoralty. I think that that would be 295 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: the smarter move. 296 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: But Democrats can never seem to run on crime being bad, 297 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: and let's stop that crime. It makes no sense. 298 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. Will continue next on 299 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. You see what's happening right now 300 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. It is popular to make sure 301 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that the city is safe. And that's the crazy thing 302 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: to see the Democrats bend over backwards to say this 303 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: is a problem, that he's making the city safer. And 304 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: yet people that live there, even Democrats that live there, 305 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, it's nice to not have to worry 306 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: about getting carjacked. I mean that is a terrifying thought 307 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: that someone will especially if you have kids. You know, 308 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, at any moment, someone could take my 309 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: car and my kids would be in the back. It's 310 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: just it's insane that we have to think this way. 311 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: I just saw someone who had their car stolen on Twitter. 312 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about it this morning. Your ex whatever we 313 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: call it now. One of the other things I wanted 314 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: to get to is that because of your background, you 315 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: understand socialism better than any of us. And you lived it, 316 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: but your parents lived it, and I think that you 317 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: have this firsthand knowledge of how awful it actually was. 318 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: You make the comment about socialism because Mamdannie has come 319 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: out and said, look, we want to text the white 320 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: people more. And you said it in such an interesting way, 321 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: because I think that a lot of us go, gosh, 322 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: that's a terrible thing to say. But you said, the 323 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: cause of socialism needs an enemy, and this is the 324 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: way that they get people to say, oh, there are 325 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: people that are hoarding more than their fair share. That's 326 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: the enemy. We have to go after them. And then 327 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: people jump onto that. Even people who are in the 328 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: category of the enemy are like, I don't want to 329 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: be the enemy, so I'll be on his side. 330 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 331 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: I believe that. 332 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: About all of leftism. Leftism needs an enemy, and if 333 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: it doesn't have one, they start looking for one. Internally, 334 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: you start being like, well, you know, you might be 335 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: a liberal, but do you really believe do you believe enough? 336 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: And they start canceling each other. And we saw that 337 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: again in the last few years. Really it hit a high. 338 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: But what you saw was they couldn't really cancel Conservatives, 339 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: like what they're going to say to you, Oh, you 340 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: culturally appropriated, and you'll say, so what, I don't care 341 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: what you say, and that'll be the end of that. 342 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: But if you say to somebody on the left, they 343 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: start getting nervous and they start apologizing and they know 344 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: I would never culturally appropriate, and so the you know, 345 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: the firing squad is turned on each other. You see 346 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: this all the time in leftism, and so they always 347 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: are looking for an enemy. They're always looking for somebody 348 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: to oppose. They're always looking for somebody who's the them 349 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: for us versus them, And so, yeah, that's what socialism 350 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: is all about. It's about you know, they don't create anything. 351 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: Socialism doesn't create anything. Capitalism creates. But socialism has to 352 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: inevitably say those people aren't creating, they're not doing what 353 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be doing, they're not helping all of us, 354 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: and they find someone to turn against. This was a 355 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: common story in the Soviet Union, it's common story in 356 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: every communist place, at any place that really attempts socialism, 357 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: will find that they will have internal strife in this 358 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: very serious way because we can't all be equal, we 359 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: can't all do the same jobs, and we can't all 360 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: make the same amount of money, and it actually doesn't 361 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: work at all, and nobody gets their lives improved. Everybody 362 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: just gets their lives reduced and minimized. 363 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I have worried about socialism a lot. 364 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: And you know a lot of times you'll see the 365 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders or whatever of the world be they go, 366 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: what are you so afraid of if you're afraid of socialism? 367 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm afraid of socialism. 368 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: It has failed every single time it's been tried. When 369 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders talks about Swedish socialism and Sweden's like, hey, hey, hey, 370 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: don't call us socialists. We are a capitalist country. They 371 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: don't want to be socialists because they know that that 372 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: system does not function and again failed every time it's 373 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: been tried. Is the message that I give to my 374 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: kids so that they won't support it when they get older. 375 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: It is all around a failed system. 376 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: So you have that experience. But like you said, you 377 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: can kind of cross go across all of these different 378 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: wars and battles that are going on right now. Another 379 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: thing that Mamdani has talked about is globalizing the Intifada, 380 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: and you made the point that I think that, first 381 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: of all, I think people are confused that this has 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: actually happened before. And this is absolutely going out and 383 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: just murdering people. It's a genocide, There is no He says, well, 384 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: you know other people define it differently. No, It's occurred 385 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: twice in the Second Intifada. There were thousands of people 386 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: that were killed. And you make the point that it 387 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: wasn't just Jews, Christians and Muslims were killed too, because 388 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: suicide bombers they don't ask your religion before they bomb you. 389 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely right. 390 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: And look, every time you hear about a car ramming 391 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: through a Christmas market, they're not targeting Jews. And that 392 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: is globalizing the Intifada. They want to bring. 393 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: The struggle, the the ideas that they. 394 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: Have to the rest of us, and Americans need to 395 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: understand this is not Israel's fight, This is all of 396 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: our fights. This is a Western fight. This is a 397 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: problem that we're all going to have. 398 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: Well, you have somebody in New York that says, bring 399 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: it here, how can it not be a problem we 400 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: all have exactly. 401 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: And so when you do see these bombings happen in 402 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: Western cities, they're not looking for Jews or not targeting Israelis. 403 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: They're targeting Westerners, are targeting Christians. 404 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: They know what they're doing, and we need to be 405 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: concerned about it. 406 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: I hate the fact that some part of the right 407 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: is turning on Israel because I find it to be 408 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: the first line of defense for the West. 409 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: Like I understand not caring about Israel. I understand. I 410 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: even understand, oh, we shouldn't fund them. Fine, I have 411 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: a list. 412 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: Of countries we shouldn't fund before we stop funding Israel. 413 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: But fine, But the idea that they're not our friend, 414 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: or that they're not. 415 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 3: That first line of defense, it makes no sense, and 416 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: it just it scares me that people are falling for 417 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: that line. 418 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: It's the scary thing is that it's people who have 419 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: been trusted in the past, people that have massive followings, 420 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: and I think they are people blindly follow some of 421 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: those folks because they've said, oh, I've seen them as 422 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: a trusted source. Do you think, how do you think 423 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: this happens? I actually am curious because I think these 424 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: are people who haven't felt this way in the past. 425 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: But I had somebody once say to me, and interestingly, 426 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: the person who said this maybe teetering off the edge 427 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: of this right now, but they said to me, you know, 428 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: what happens is that someone sees their themselves getting attention, 429 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: they see their likes increase, they see their retweets increase, 430 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: and they go, that's the way to go. And I 431 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the money or it's the fame, 432 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: but something draws them into it. And do they really 433 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: could they possibly really believe these terrible things about Israel? 434 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and of course it's not just Israel. They believe 435 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: terrible things about Jews in the US and. 436 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: Elsewhere as well. We don't need to name the names. 437 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: Some of the larger voices on the right have gone 438 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: completely insane about this kind of thing. I don't know 439 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: if it's money, I don't know if it's just the fame. 440 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: There's definitely going to be a Jew hating audience for 441 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: a lot of these people. 442 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's surprising at all. 443 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 3: The fact that they're leaning into it and are looking 444 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: for those eyeballs and those downloads is upsetting. But at 445 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: least you kind of know who they are, it's not 446 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: it's you know. I find it comforting that they're not 447 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: hiding this opinion anymore. If they that's what they've always believed, Like, 448 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: just say what you think and let us choose to. 449 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: Whether or not to have any respect for you. 450 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: And I've liked supposed yourself know exactly. 451 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: I'm never looking to shut down anybody's opinion. I want 452 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: to hear those opinions so that I know how seriously 453 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: or not seriously to take you. And is there some 454 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: other factor? Is there Katari money? Obviously we don't know, 455 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: and I you know, so it's tough to speculate it, 456 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: but it certainly seems that some of the flips that 457 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 3: have happened so suddenly and so rapidly definitely had some 458 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: other factor involved. 459 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Well, there's been a defense of Russia. Obviously, we're all 460 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: watching Russia and Ukraine right now. Interestingly, I have a 461 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: friend who is Ukrainian and they said to me, I 462 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: don't know if we trust Celensky. People in my family 463 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: do trust Zelensky. Other people don't trust Selensky. And it's 464 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: in truesting to me. Also because when Donald Trump was 465 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: impeached the first time, there were a lot of questions 466 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: about corruption in Ukraine. However, Russia invaded, this war continues. 467 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: Donald Trump makes a fabulous point saying, why would we 468 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: allow death to continue? If we don't do anything, another 469 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: year goes by. Marco Rubio said, you know what, he's 470 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: bringing these people to the White House and we had 471 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: a historic summit, and if we do nothing, then another 472 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: year of death goes by. Maybe another year of death 473 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: will continue, but right now we're working really hard to 474 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: stop it. What is your viewpoint on this compared to 475 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: just sending money to Ukraine, which I know you said, 476 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: your father's Ukrainian, you came from the Soviet Union, So 477 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: this is personal. 478 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: It is, but it is And look if I had 479 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 3: my magic wand Ukraine defeats Russia, and that's it. But 480 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: so again, my mother's, my mother's from Russia, my father, 481 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: my father's from Ukraine. But we're Jews, so you were 482 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: never considered Russian or Ukrainian. You were always this other 483 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: separate category. So it's not like I have a national 484 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: allegiance to it. But I just think obviously the country 485 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: that was invaded, basically, you know, hopefully can defeat the 486 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: larger power that did the invading, but having settled that, 487 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump is just remarkable in the last 488 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: few weeks. I didn't always love Donald Trump. I've had 489 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: my ups and downs with Trump. I think this term 490 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: has been just sensational. I've been so pleased with so 491 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: many different things. 492 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: I love that he's. 493 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 3: Trying to bring a peace agreement between Russia and Ukraine. 494 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: I think what he's finding is that they don't have 495 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: the same. 496 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: Sensibilities that we do. 497 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: That they're not as horrified by all the death as 498 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: we are. It's just a different culture, it's a different mindset. 499 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: Life is just not treated quite as the same way 500 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: that we treated in the United States. And I think 501 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is seeing that with talking to both Putin 502 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: and Zelensky, that neither of them seem in a hurry 503 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: to end the bloodshed. 504 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: They both still want the wins. 505 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 3: That they were trying to get again, I think that 506 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: Trump has been just fantastic on this and on many 507 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: other things. I've loved the second term. Trump two point 508 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: zero has definitely been my favorite Trump of all. 509 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 510 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Life is not that does not 511 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: have the same meaning in other countries. I mean, honestly, 512 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: even when I saw what happened in Florida with the 513 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: truck driver last week, and everybody was like, he's not 514 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: even shocked by this, and making no excuses for him. 515 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: But I remember when my parents would travel to India 516 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: for business a lot. They would come back and they 517 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: would say, there's just a different meaning to life there. 518 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: People would hit someone in the road and not think 519 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: twice about it. 520 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 3: Right, It's very crazy to think that that is how 521 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: life is treated in other countries. 522 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: But it's important to remember. 523 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 3: That we don't behave the way a lot of other 524 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: countries do, and that these countries have always kind. 525 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Of treated their people this way, and you. 526 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: Know, into the meat grinder sensibility of war has, you know, 527 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: it's roots and places like that. 528 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: And so I don't know. 529 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: I hope that Trump succeeds in getting some sort of 530 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 3: peace agreement, but if he doesn't, I don't think he should. 531 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: See it as a loss for himself. 532 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: I don't think he will see it as a loss 533 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: for himself, but I think that it is a loss 534 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: for the Russian Ukrainian people, and it's because of the 535 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: leadership and because of the culture. 536 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: He made this comment about the fact that he was 537 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: doing this because he wanted to make a peace agreement 538 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: and he thought that this would help him getting to heaven. 539 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: That's why my pastor, Yeah, my pastor jumped on that 540 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: this weekend though he was like, Okay, hey, this is 541 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: not biblical. That is not how you get into heaven. 542 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: So I think Trump getting shot. I really think he 543 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: has become more faithful. 544 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Totally, because you know, I'm like, this is a step 545 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: that here he is talking about that you know, and 546 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's like, it's so funny because 547 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: you can be in your late seventies and still be 548 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: young in faith and be learning. And that to me 549 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: was like, yes, that is not necessarily what we believe 550 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: in our church. And I know there are some church 551 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: that believe acts of service will be we'll get you there. 552 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: But I do think that that is it's interesting to 553 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: see him speak that way, and I think that that 554 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: is something that you talk about being able to practice 555 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: your faith and do that in New York. And I 556 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: think that's why there are people who are concerned about 557 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: this idea of what could be if New York changes. 558 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: And I think about what you said about it being 559 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: different in the seventies, and now you know you have 560 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: the potential for it to go a different direction again. 561 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: But what do you think. I'll just end it on this, mom. 562 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Donnie has been a proponent of communes and taking over buildings, 563 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: having communities by the building. But now if you're in government, 564 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: and he's been in the legislature for a while, so 565 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: now if he takes over his mayor, what's to say 566 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't buy up whole communities and get rid of 567 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: communities that were there. You know, that's been a concern 568 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: in Detroit, the minority neighborhoods have been purchased and bulldozed. 569 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: You know, what's to say that that doesn't happen in 570 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: New York and then suddenly you have communes all over 571 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: in religion is not allowed. 572 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's not as far fetched as it 573 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: sounds to say that, because I actually don't think that 574 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: he'll succeed in taking over buildings. New York just doesn't 575 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: have the budget for this kind of thing, and they 576 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: actually spend all the money they have and often need more. 577 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: They it's very wasteful city management, and I don't think 578 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 3: he's going to be less so. 579 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: But when he doesn't succeed. 580 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: In any of the things that he promised, when he 581 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: doesn't when he's not able to freeze the rent, when 582 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't have the government owned grocery stores, when none 583 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: of that, when the free buses have failed completely because 584 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: they always fail, what does he do then? And I 585 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: have to imagine he appeases his leftist base by going 586 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: after Jews, by going after Christians. 587 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: And I think that you're you're not far off. 588 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: To imagine that he's going to have a sinister, kind 589 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: of underlying thing that he's going to be doing in 590 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: order to appease that left this base when all of 591 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: his you know, economic policies have inevitably failed. 592 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: You know, it just made me think. I have for 593 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: the years that I've been in politics, I've had people 594 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: say to me, you know, if we can help build 595 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: up the church and bring the church into these communities, 596 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: we can help build up these communities. And what I've seen, 597 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: without really noticing, is that the left continues to try 598 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: to destroy the church. They do everything they can to 599 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: drive faith out of communities. And you're right, if that is, 600 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: if you can't achieve anything else that is on your agenda. 601 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: That is an easy target. 602 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly it, and that's what they always go for. 603 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: That's what the communists always do. Religion has to go 604 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: in order for the people to worship the government. 605 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: Very true, and religion is joy and if you take 606 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: away joy, then you create this reliance. There's only there's 607 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: only one way to get by, and that is to 608 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: go to the government and have them take care of you. 609 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: And even I just heard Jocelyn Benson, who is running 610 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: for governor and Michigan say this. She was like, you know, 611 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: we've got people working two jobs and they can't make 612 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: the they can't make it by, and that's where the 613 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: government has to come in and fill in those gaps. 614 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, it's open, it's not even they're 615 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: not even hiding it. This is the this is exactly 616 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: what they're saying. So you know what, You've lived it, 617 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you being willing to come on and 618 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: talk about it today, and I appreciate you being in 619 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: the network with me. 620 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, tutor. 621 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: I love listening to your show and I love seeing 622 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: you at events. It's really always a good time. 623 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: It is. It's always fun. Carol Markowitz make sure you 624 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: check out her podcast. 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