WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Carnac Stones 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.600 Hey, guys, Steve here, you are listening to one of 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.600 our original twenty six episodes. If you listen to any 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.280 of our new episodes, you're gonna notice that we're sounding 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.639 a little different in these ones. Yeah, there's a reason 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.520 for that. There is they've been remastered. They have been 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.040 remastered because they had a really annoying hum. Yeah, I 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.480 mean a huge thanks to listener James for doing almost 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.880 all of the legwork on this thing. They'll also notice 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.880 if you had listened to what we're calling the last 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.639 twenty six episodes before and you're re listening now, the 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.160 music and sound effects are gone. 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Yeah, 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.959 I'm gonna talking about that special, a special bunch of 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.320 rocks in Brittaan in the south of France called the 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.679 Carnex Stones. The Carnex stones are just thousands of stones 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.959 laid out, very large stones, I might add, laid out 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.959 in mysterious rows that are like over a kilometer long 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.080 in some instances and ten ten ten stones wide. These 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.720 stones are called men here's they are, which are needs 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.640 standing stones, and they vary between several feet high to 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.640 fifteen feet high and yeah, ten stones wide, over a 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.520 kilometer long, hundred meters wide, and some end change along. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.080 So we're just saying, like, so some guy in the 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:10.280 Brittany decided to take a crane and a bunch of 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.840 stones up or that's kind of my guess, you know. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.840 And so you know, there's a there's a too fascinating 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.000 things about this. Number one, nobody has any clue as 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.400 to why this these people did this. And number two, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.240 given the size of the stones and then huge vast 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.320 numbers of them, and then the very careful arrangement, the 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.839 obviously they a huge amount of energy to this, so 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.600 there had to have been a fairly large, sophisticated society. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.160 I ask a good question. They were there estimated between 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:44.040 BC and three thousand. I thought you were talking about 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.800 like some dude like fifty years ago with a crane. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.760 I'm not gonna put these rocks up. You know, it 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.919 could possibly be. I mean, we don't really know. I mean, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.400 these guys, these guys that is this Carnack Stones are 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.680 named after a town in France called Karnak, and it 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.120 may very well be the little pals felt that they 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.000 would like a little more tourism and maybe they just 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.920 snuck these things out into the fields. On that and 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:14.119 it says there's a many large rocks explained maybe yeah, yeah, 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.680 companies without town that good rail. I'm gonna put that 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.480 on the list of possible experts. I think, yeah, that's 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.600 a good one. Yeah. I I have actually, and you 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.000 guys have been have been looking at some of this material, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.200 have been going out and reviewing some of the various 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.760 theories that people have as to why these things were 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.160 put up. And that's one of the mysteries. Of course. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.320 The other mystery is it's very large, somewhat largely sophisticated 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.920 society that obviously, I don't know, wealth and spare time 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.960 to do this vanished without a trace. And that's another 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.840 huge mystery. Where did these guys go? So we don't 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.440 know who actually did all this work. We have no clue. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.720 So yeah, I guess can you like tell me because 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.880 I always get really fuzzy only human history and all 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.240 that stuff. Like three thousand BC, that's when you said 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.280 these were people what already five three? Okay, So what's 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.000 going on then? I mean, you know, are we like 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.520 obviously we're not time of Christ. Are we like Great Pyramids? 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.320 Or we like this is like before the Great Pyramids, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.280 two thousand years before the Great Pyramids. So I mean, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.080 I mean, well, when they finished up in about three 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.240 thousand d C. And I assume that they didn't really 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.720 finish the project, they all probably just died or something 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.800 like that. Civilization just went out of style. But but yeah, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.200 that was that was still a couple of centuries. That 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.240 was still at least a couple of centuries before the 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.760 first pyramids built in Egypt. All right, that's all right, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.680 I'm getting interested now. And elsewhere in the world, I 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.160 think we were just basically living in mud Hutson beating 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.960 each other to death, you know, and stuff like that. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.839 It sounds like that that sounds about this is the 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.880 time in human history right where we like seem to 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.400 have forgotten Stonehenge was kind of happening, right, you know, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.000 all these like big times where it seems like there's 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.920 this moment in human history where everyone was like, oh, yeah, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.720 we had all these big civilization civilizations, you have really 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.680 mess with people in the future, let's just forget about them. Well, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.919 there's all these megalithic constructions around that around those those 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:13.719 thousands of years have then all of the people that yeah, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.560 moved along, the knowledge was forgotten. I think we've talked 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.800 about this in a different show before. And in the future. Yeah, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.919 we're just like what we prior to the invention of 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.280 writing and all that, there's no records left and you know, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.920 all of their little houses and everything have fallen down. Okay, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.400 so we're talking about this time period of time where 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.120 it's like this big question mark and just as the side. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.520 One time, I was in Wales some some years back 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.800 and I visited a sumulus, which is what they have 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.920 at Karnac also, which are these big barrows or burial mounds, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.080 and that was dated at about again and author unknown. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.039 The most ancient structure I've ever been in, but you know, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.520 and those are those mounds that are thirty plus feed high. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.160 Somebody buried underneath the bottom of the mound with all 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.640 their gear. Yeah yeah, And this was this one was 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.760 not quite that impressive. It was on the Welsh coast, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.480 but it was like basically like a little flint stone's house, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.360 you know, with like slate walls and a slate roof, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.280 and that was just it was buried and eventually was 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.520 excavated and then reburied, but there was they left a 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.640 tunnel so you could walk inside it and see what. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.800 I don't think I've seen something on that one. Yeah, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.719 actually brings a bell. Yeah yeah. I I went to 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:29.200 Stonehenge and the weird like stargazing huts. They can't totally 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.960 figure out what's going on there. And those are really 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.200 old and they I think they kind of fit this 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:39.040 category of like weird stonework from a prehistoric age. Well, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.360 and so you know, I mean, I obviously I've never 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.400 been and seeing a chronic stone, but just like you, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.520 I've been to Stonehenge and it is amazing to see 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.800 these giant, giant rocks. I mean, what is the rock 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.080 of Stonehenge. You're five tons at least minimums, you know, 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.160 if not ten or twenties, and you just gotta think weight. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.840 This was before we really knew how to use a 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.760 lot of complex systems and a bunch of guys figured 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.560 out figured out how to howk these rocks up on time, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.600 and they didn't fall over. Yeah, they still haven't fall Yeah, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.000 and that's what's that's I mean, that's what's amazing with 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.760 these carnex stones because they're also really really large, a 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.080 lot of them, and yeah they are, and some of 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.360 them have broken and fallen over, but most of them 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.239 are still standing. That's wear and tear, it kind of expect. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.120 It's not that they've actually like fallen because they've fallen 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.480 out of their place, but they because they were poorly. Yeah, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.640 so it's impressive. Ancient man could do a lot of 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.560 impressive stuff. You know, we we think of Asian man 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.640 is ignorant and stupid, which I'm sure he was, but 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.320 a lot of a lot of them were. But but 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:50.080 it's just make stuff. Yeah, So anyway, let's let me 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.280 I'll describe them a little bit more for our readers, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.720 who I'm sure but now I've already got out to 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.960 Google and they're looking at pictures right now. For those 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.960 of you that haven't, let me describe them a little bit. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.320 There's three major alignments, um, and it appears when you 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.160 look at the aerials and the maps and everything, it 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.640 appears that they might most possibly were just one huge 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.720 long alignment that was broken up by people stealing rocks 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.559 for construction. Roads going through is another one of those 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.160 that like there's no actual preservation of Yeah, it wasn't 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.400 for a long time. There is now there is because 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.520 I actually went to the Karnak website that's run by 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.440 the French government and it has visiting in hours and 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.560 all that, but a lot of it is behind fences 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.880 now and you can't actually walk into other roads through 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:42.760 parts of this and stuff built like with the okay, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.440 all right, yeah, I got it, Okay. You would think 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.680 that that you would think that you'd be able to 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.000 find some some big match in or castle nearby that's 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.679 you know, obviously built from rocks stolen from and then 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.560 if you go knock the castle down and take the 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.520 rocks and put them back, maybe that's what it is 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.439 that's my theory. I'm gonna go and say it right now. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.920 My theory is that it was a castle on that 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.400 they were just like, screw the dude who lives here, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.360 in the most obvious way possible. Yeah, and as acid 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.960 the mysterious disappearance of the people that built this, What 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.360 I think happened is I think that they did this 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.199 and eventually time, you know, news traveled slowly and for 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.559 three thousand BC. I think eventually what happened is the 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.520 Stonehengians got wind of this and tried to file a 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:30.880 copyright infringement lawsuits that discovered discovered to their rage that 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.280 lawyers didn't yet exist, and so they went over there 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.880 and just slaughtered these people and burned their homes to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:43.000 the ground. What happened that that's what happened. Okay, Yeah, anyway, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.520 so I'll talk about the alignment. So the big things 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.400 the medic alignments is eleven rows of men. Here's an men. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.319 Here is a large standing stone for one point one 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:59.920 six five kilometers. That's that's one thousand, sixty five by 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.280 a hundred meters um. So that's that's a lot of rocks. Uh. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.480 And apparently there is that there appeared to be the 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.320 remains of stone circles at either end of this room. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.520 Next after that comes to car Mario alignment, which is 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.800 further to the east. Um. This is called the Camaro 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.760 House of the Dead. I love the name House of 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:24.400 the Dead alignment uh one thousand, twenty nine stones in 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:29.480 ten columns, about hundred meters in length, stone circles to 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.880 the east end. Uh. Last of all the curl Scan alignment, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.840 smaller group of five hundred fifty stones further to still 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.400 thirteen lines with the total length of about eight hundred meters. Oh, 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.800 they talked about a little bitty group also the petty 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.680 min Echo alignment, which is on Pettit and French means 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:56.680 little uh so nine month. The much smaller group further 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.920 the east of curl Scan is actually they're actually in 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.760 the woods and covered with moss and ivy and stuff. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:04.839 And then after that, besides that, there's a bunch of 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.400 other artifacts. There's timuli, which is a proto tumulus, which 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.719 is amount of earth built up and which essentially is 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:16.960 a burial mound for barrel barrel. There are dolmans are 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.360 kind kind of like they're they're basically kind of like 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.240 clint Stone houses um that were tumbes basically a big 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.559 big square rocks stacked up with a big flat rocks 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.839 and set on the top of it. And I don't 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.440 know how many guys it takes the lift up one 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.040 of those things that set it on top. I mean, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.640 getting the sides up wouldn't be that hard, but getting 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.160 the roof on, that's that's pretty impressively. That's always a 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.080 big question, right is that? Like Okay, I guess I 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.920 can see how they like made those stones vertical, but 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.560 like it's those giant horizontal pieces on top that's standing 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.360 standing a stone up right, you dig a big hole 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.600 on me that you just roll it in, You roll 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.679 it in and then your backfill. I can see that, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.120 But yeah, it's the it's the lifting up the big 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.320 flat ones and putting them on top there still boggles me. 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.320 It's although actually, actually I think I just figured it out. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.280 You put up your walls, and then you and then 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.439 you and then you fill it around, bill it around 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.320 with dirt till till the dirt is level with the 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.720 top of the walls, and then you roll the top 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.160 up on logs and then you just pull the logs 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.640 out from underneath. Then you dig the dirt away again. Okay, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.040 we figured that out. Yeah, because I was gonna say, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.440 I'm glad I came up with that, because otherwise I 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.120 would have had to go though somewhere I hate to go, 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.840 which is aliens. I like aliens for this, and I 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:27.840 want to talk about aliens later. You want to talk 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.400 about later, we'll talk about our theories. Yeah, always do well. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.880 So anyway I saw, like I said, I feel free 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.800 to go out to Google and look at some of 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.920 the pictures and stuff of this. You should, because I mean, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.839 you know, it's hard to imagine. There's some pictures where 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.040 there are people standing next to the rocks and you 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.360 get a good scope of how big they are. What 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.440 is the one, Joe, do you remember the name of 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.400 the one that? I mean? Somebody re erected it because 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.000 it had fallen down, But it's the famous picture is 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.560 always some little kid sitting at the bottom of it. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:02.360 And this thing is I don't know, thirty feet high. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.520 It's called it's called the money a giant or something like. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.840 It's yet a big honking rock. I don't know how 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.719 deep into the ground it goes, either, it's got to 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.320 be a long way down. Yeah, it's got to be 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.360 going Yeah, it's gotta be going down at least what 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.160 ten feet? Yeah, at least. Yeah, they have to not 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.440 fall over. So somebody had to dig dig a hole. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.880 That would be approval work. Yeah, somebody had to dig 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.400 a hole. And then and then while the other guys okay, man, 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.280 well you dig the hole, we're gonna go get the rock. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.720 So okay, since I'm the question asker of this, yes, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.520 my question right now when we're talking about description of 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:45.320 it is what keeps these rocks from just being like rocks? Right? Like? 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.720 Are they just normal rocks? They're just like you found 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.520 them anywhere or there any kind of like stone mason 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.840 remarks or anything like that. Yeah, they definitely found marks, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.560 I mean marks of stonemasonry. Um, definitely, they found like 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.400 they split the granite by drilling holes, and god knows 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:02.880 how they did that. And then imagine they took a 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.680 stick and just like just sort of rubbed it around 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.560 like they know, like spun it around like about five 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.920 million times. And then and then we managed to bore 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.560 a hole in there and then and then get in 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.400 there with wedges and split the rock. But apparently these 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.120 these people didn't know how I didn't know how to 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.480 work stone. They don't knew how to break it, and 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.280 we didn't we didn't figure out how to make iron. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:22.960 We didn't know how to make iron at that time. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.360 So I think, I mean, the best tools we had 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.880 besides other stones was maybe brass. Yeah, I don't know. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.880 I don't even knows brass at that time. But brass 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.680 is super soft. It's the worst tool in the world. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.640 Not it really granted, is like a really hard rock, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.960 so and like a stick isn't really gonna So, you know, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.440 I guess that's a question. Yeah, I mean, because I've 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.600 seen pictures of some of these rocks, and they've they've 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.840 bored holes in the rocks in a line that eight 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080 and breaking these things and certain and god knows how 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.000 they did that. I don't know. I mean, it's you know, 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.760 maybe these people actually succeeded in creating steel, you know, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.560 who knows? Yeah, you know, I guess We've talked about 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.560 some stories where there's some evidence that maybe man knew 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.640 how to work metal before we gave him credit for 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.120 entirely possible to possible. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.200 I'll say about these is, even though there's evidence of stonework. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.440 They left a lot of this natural part of the rocks. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.720 And they didn't totally shape these rocks into like a 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.120 perfect rectangle or anything like that. They looked like they 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.760 look like long rocks basically um in mostly in most cases, 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.320 some of them are pointed, some of them were flat. Well, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.880 and I think that I swear that I saw something. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.120 And tell me if you heard this or if I'm 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:41.640 just making this up, Joe, But in these long swaths 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.400 of all these pillars of rock, I swear I saw 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.720 somewhere were not only were they in basically perfect rows, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.480 but they were they were level with each other, so 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.640 that or was it level or were they stick They 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.160 descend from one end to the other and in height, 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:04.120 so especially so they decreased from end from one end 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.000 and hight to the other end, and also side to side. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.440 Oh so the less side is the tallest and then 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.720 they get shorter as they go. Is that what I'm 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.840 to understand? Yeah, and so, but you know, when you 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:17.920 actually look at the pictures of them on the ground, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.800 it's kind of hard to see that pattern. But but again, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.200 part of this is because they're on rolling ground, So 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.960 it's like it's so you have to like go out 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.880 and measure the rocks to really see. My own personal 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.680 theory is that what happened is they started out small, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.160 and then and then and then the first rocks were 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.640 the shortest ones, and those were the ones that they 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.680 actually were capable of moving. And then as time went by, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.680 they figured out more effective ways to move rocks, and 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.920 and so they started moving bigger rocks. And then you know, 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:49.840 somebody else had another bright idea, and they were even 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.280 they were able to tackle even bigger rocks. And so 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.680 by the time about by the time they wrapped it 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.440 all up, they're putting up rocks that are high. So 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.720 you know, if it was me, it would be the 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.840 exact act opposite. I would I would overestimate how much 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.520 work I could do, so they would start out really 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.399 cool and tall, and as I started working along, I 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.560 started getting lazier and lazier, and they would get shorter 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.760 and shorter because I didn't want to do so much work. Well, actually, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.159 this debunks one of the theories that I was tossing 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.320 around talking about initially was that I thought maybe they 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.200 were just gravestones. I think I read somewhere that they 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.440 might have just been gravestones, but I think that it's 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:29.159 suspicious that they would there would be such a solid 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:33.119 down grade or down plane. You know that if they 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.240 were just gravestones, they would be like whatever side. They 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.200 wouldn't be like while all the big ones are over 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.560 here and all the ones are over here. Yeah, that's that, 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.080 that makes sense. Yeah, I mean I was, I was 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.840 thinking that they started at one end and then it's 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.480 possible that they realized that they're running a little short 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.040 on rock. Maybe their corey was like, you know, not infinite, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.199 and they realized that that their quarry stone was not 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.960 an infinite supply, and so they started putting up smaller ones. 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.919 That's a possibility, yess. Yeah, but yeah, I guess if 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.439 it was, if it was a graveyard and say they 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.040 started at one end, then they would have been like, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.240 you know, modest sized rocks and then want some some 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.199 big mucky muck dies and he would have gotten a 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.280 really big rock and then and then after that they 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.560 go back to small one. But the great stones are 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.479 one of the theories is and again I believe it 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.359 was there was something somebody had said that because it's 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.359 x number of stones, that there were x number of tribes, 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.399 So every time the leader of that tribe died, they 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.800 would put up a new stone. And so everybody came 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.879 together as leaders died and continually put more and more up, 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.560 not necessarily as a headstone, but a marker for that person. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.760 So they would get bigger and bigger like the pyramids did, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.120 right because they were you know, well, I'm better than them, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:52.600 so when I die, then bill over there. The theory 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.160 we're talking about this again named Manthuel Vega who wrote 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.720 this theory that that was a necropolis for the leaders 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:02.960 of supposedly ten confederated tribes Neolithic tribes. And uh, there's 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.399 no real basis for this nice theory and everything, but 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.880 you know, I mean so basically he takes the fact 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:09.760 that there are ten rows to mean while there must 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.680 have been ten tribes and just goes from there. So 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.680 it's it's entirely possible that I don't know, yes, since 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.879 this is prehistoric, right, that you can kind of just say, well, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.919 there were this many tribes and they were totally altoge. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.480 You know, it's very easy to just you can just 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.480 kind of make it up as you go along. In 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:30.000 my story world. This yeah, you know, an actually this, 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.119 this gives me an idea. Though supposedly there were ten 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.560 ten tribes and and so supposingly they all felt the 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.440 need to make an offering to the gods every year, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.600 like once a growing season. So each tribe came out 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:42.639 and came out to the spot and then put up 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.080 a big gas stone. And they kept trying to outdo 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.520 each other, which is why the stones kept going and 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.480 growing in size. So wait, okay, so are there ten 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.840 different sites and each tribe had a site or apparently 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.160 they have a common sight, but they're how many sites 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.440 are there? Oh? We're talking about like if this whole 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.640 thing was like one was one single thing. Yeah, oh 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.480 I see, yeah, but we don't know. See that's the 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.800 hard part is we don't know if they were supposed 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.800 to be connected or if it was just disgroup. Did 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.560 their's over here, you know, nobody knows. It's yeah, it 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.359 might have made it as you go along. It might 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.160 have been that they left open spots because I knew 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:18.880 that in the twentieth century somebody would want to put 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:24.119 a road to there. You know, they were time travelers. Yeah, 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.439 so we don't know if they spoke French. We don't anyway, 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.040 so he let me let me run down at a 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.360 real quick list of the theories for what they were. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:37.040 One is that they were pathways between temples, giant temples, 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.800 which is sense disappeared. That's weird to me that well, yeah, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.119 because where the where the temples go. Well, also it 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.720 seems like a lot of work, Like I know that 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.960 prehistoric like the societies of the past, and I guess, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.040 you know, to be fair, modern societies to put a 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.920 lot of stock in their religious whatever, but you would 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.600 think they would put more work into their places of 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:02.000