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Speaker 4: at the Let's Stadium, talking Patriots for the next couple hours.

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Speaker 4: Paul's hereduce, We'll be here, Evan'll be here, Alex will

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Speaker 5: She's has sent her picks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, feeling a little under the weather today.

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Speaker 5: She gave me some strict instructions to make sure I

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Speaker 5: wash my hands. Oh yeah, why, she said, it's very

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Speaker 4: She she got something she thinks she picked.

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Speaker 5: Up from how she said, Yeah, not feeling great. I'll

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Speaker 5: tell her I want to make sure I wash my

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Speaker 5: he not to touch dirty things. Yeah, absolutely, all right,

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Speaker 5: I do have her pick.

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Speaker 4: She sent her picks, So she's all said, she's got

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Speaker 4: her picks in just how was last week? Just real,

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, still not like you know, not like the

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Speaker 4: that's good. We'll have to get to that later. We'll

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Speaker 4: have to hurry. But we're still talking about the state

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Speaker 4: that until the end of the season. I would assume

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Speaker 4: the coordinators talked today. They did, DeMarcus Covington and Alex

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I like some of the stuff I heard

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Speaker 4: I think that of everyone then that gets in front

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Speaker 4: I think Van Pelt is probably the most straightforward of

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Speaker 5: Was walking back with Evan and Tamara and Mike, and

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Speaker 4: And like I said yesterday, now I look forward to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm from that perspective. I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I do think it's any time you

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Speaker 5: They had a lot of guys on their injury report

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Speaker 4: By after that talk to some of the fellas following

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Speaker 4: you lead you give him a yeah from morale? Sure, especially, uh,

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Speaker 4: who's this guy?

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Speaker 5: Who's what? Guy?

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Speaker 4: Who's he's here now? Yeah? His morales? No updates on him? No, No,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to stay out of it. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 5: rare restraint for Paul.

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Speaker 4: Sure, what was I gonna say? I forgot, Well, the

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Speaker 5: And I just see I have. It's funny that you

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Speaker 5: But I think when Mahomes started winning Super Bowls, if

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's so funny because you go.

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Speaker 5: Back as a physical team, you go back through.

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Speaker 5: Have picks and it's just us too. We don't we

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Speaker 7: So the thing about the Patriots salary cap, you can't

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Speaker 4: where the players friendly to that none of them looked

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00:21:40,874 --> 00:21:42,273
Speaker 4: like devick Henry.

435
00:21:42,353 --> 00:21:48,354
Speaker 9: Hey, Mike, what was it like in the locker room? Hay, Mike,

436
00:21:48,754 --> 00:21:52,754
Speaker 9: what was it like in the locker room?

437
00:21:53,154 --> 00:21:53,874
Speaker 4: What's up, Mike?

438
00:21:53,914 --> 00:21:54,314
Speaker 6: It's nice?

439
00:21:54,353 --> 00:21:54,513
Speaker 5: Hi.

440
00:21:54,553 --> 00:21:58,513
Speaker 6: Everybody really has such a nice here, pleasant, sweet, beautiful

441
00:21:58,674 --> 00:22:03,793
Speaker 6: dulcet just a good little diddy. Yeah, thank you. Uh well,

442
00:22:03,914 --> 00:22:06,034
Speaker 6: uh yeah, we heard from Jonathan Jones and Kendrick Born

443
00:22:06,073 --> 00:22:08,914
Speaker 6: in locker room and a lot of talk about Van

444
00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:12,994
Speaker 6: Pelt's meeting, a little come to Jesus meeting, keep it inside,

445
00:22:13,073 --> 00:22:16,954
Speaker 6: keep it Yeah, I really like sick, been sick.

446
00:22:17,273 --> 00:22:22,114
Speaker 5: I'm over my These guys don't wash their hands.

447
00:22:22,273 --> 00:22:23,434
Speaker 4: How it's sick because she's sick.

448
00:22:23,513 --> 00:22:26,393
Speaker 6: Okay's sick, Matt's sick, everybody's And no, I think I

449
00:22:26,434 --> 00:22:31,153
Speaker 6: got it first, but uh but no I I Jesus No.

450
00:22:31,234 --> 00:22:32,913
Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting Kendrick Bourne, you know, and

451
00:22:32,954 --> 00:22:35,474
Speaker 6: really that's the room that seems like everybody's focused on

452
00:22:35,634 --> 00:22:39,193
Speaker 6: and uh trying to focus on themselves. And I mean

453
00:22:39,234 --> 00:22:42,234
Speaker 6: really the gist of it to me was him kind

454
00:22:42,234 --> 00:22:44,073
Speaker 6: of saying, these are young guys who don't really know

455
00:22:44,073 --> 00:22:46,033
Speaker 6: how to be professionals yet. I mean that was kind

456
00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:51,234
Speaker 6: of the overarching vibe of Kendrick Bourne and and him.

457
00:22:51,513 --> 00:22:53,353
Speaker 6: He also brought up like nil, he just said, it's

458
00:22:53,394 --> 00:22:55,113
Speaker 6: different now when guys come in. When I came in,

459
00:22:55,154 --> 00:22:57,034
Speaker 6: I didn't have any money, and I had all these

460
00:22:57,033 --> 00:22:59,434
Speaker 6: goals that I wanted to achieve, and you know, that's

461
00:22:59,434 --> 00:23:01,833
Speaker 6: how I set about my my career. But he's like,

462
00:23:01,833 --> 00:23:03,954
Speaker 6: things are different now. Kids are coming in. They already

463
00:23:03,954 --> 00:23:06,234
Speaker 6: got money, They got to understand how to be you know,

464
00:23:06,313 --> 00:23:07,434
Speaker 6: professional football players.

465
00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:10,834
Speaker 4: So did he say anything about him, you know, stepping

466
00:23:10,914 --> 00:23:13,594
Speaker 4: up and trying to teach these guys how to be professional.

467
00:23:13,714 --> 00:23:15,593
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's what you know he said he

468
00:23:15,634 --> 00:23:18,474
Speaker 6: was doing. He also clarified that his comments in England

469
00:23:18,474 --> 00:23:20,513
Speaker 6: were not referring to Pop. He's like, everyone took what

470
00:23:20,553 --> 00:23:23,633
Speaker 6: I said is calling out Pop for that. He's like,

471
00:23:23,674 --> 00:23:26,033
Speaker 6: it was not that, you know, he said, it was

472
00:23:26,073 --> 00:23:29,513
Speaker 6: more general. You know said that was you understood Pop

473
00:23:29,513 --> 00:23:32,474
Speaker 6: had food poisoning, that was legit. So I don't know.

474
00:23:32,513 --> 00:23:34,513
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like when you realize you've lost

475
00:23:34,553 --> 00:23:36,913
Speaker 6: six games in a row each week, you've got like

476
00:23:36,954 --> 00:23:39,393
Speaker 6: a new tactic to try to reverse the bleeding and

477
00:23:39,434 --> 00:23:42,273
Speaker 6: stem the tide, and it doesn't always work, so we'll

478
00:23:42,273 --> 00:23:44,313
Speaker 6: see if this week's kind of stuff works. But it

479
00:23:44,394 --> 00:23:47,194
Speaker 6: certainly seems like everybody was kind of impacted by the meeting,

480
00:23:47,234 --> 00:23:49,553
Speaker 6: and we heard from Jonathan Jones first, who you know,

481
00:23:49,674 --> 00:23:51,194
Speaker 6: just gave a little bit of a perspective from a

482
00:23:51,234 --> 00:23:53,794
Speaker 6: guy who was here, you know, when when the culture

483
00:23:53,874 --> 00:23:56,674
Speaker 6: was established, and you know, you just you can't help

484
00:23:56,714 --> 00:24:00,154
Speaker 6: but feel like, whether it's injuries, whether it's the coaching turnover,

485
00:24:00,914 --> 00:24:02,913
Speaker 6: this is a new team that needs to find a

486
00:24:02,914 --> 00:24:06,073
Speaker 6: new identity and trying to go back to something that

487
00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:08,994
Speaker 6: was established previously here and in years gone by, that

488
00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:11,073
Speaker 6: it's it's not going to really ring true. These guys

489
00:24:11,114 --> 00:24:13,474
Speaker 6: have to figure it out themselves, and it might be

490
00:24:13,474 --> 00:24:15,554
Speaker 6: a little bit of a process that was well kind

491
00:24:15,553 --> 00:24:15,914
Speaker 6: of my take.

492
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,193
Speaker 4: I agree with that they need to figure it out

493
00:24:18,234 --> 00:24:23,194
Speaker 4: from thoselves, but sometimes it helps to have somebody guiding you,

494
00:24:23,194 --> 00:24:26,433
Speaker 4: you know, so that you know you can help to

495
00:24:26,474 --> 00:24:29,513
Speaker 4: figure it out. And like we talked about yesterday, I

496
00:24:29,593 --> 00:24:31,833
Speaker 4: just wonder who those people are.

497
00:24:32,194 --> 00:24:34,673
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think that's part of the the

498
00:24:34,754 --> 00:24:36,714
Speaker 6: chemistry right now, is that these guys have to kind

499
00:24:36,754 --> 00:24:39,073
Speaker 6: of emerge. And I mean, I know we talked a

500
00:24:39,073 --> 00:24:41,913
Speaker 6: little bit about Drake, like he's maybe not ready, but

501
00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:44,353
Speaker 6: like this is slowly going to be his team and

502
00:24:44,394 --> 00:24:47,514
Speaker 6: he's going to start to not be happy with you know, guys,

503
00:24:47,634 --> 00:24:50,033
Speaker 6: and everybody's talking about the receivers, you know, saying I

504
00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:53,793
Speaker 6: want the ball and YadA, YadA, YadA. But I don't

505
00:24:53,833 --> 00:24:55,834
Speaker 6: know that's what that's what has to happen, and you've

506
00:24:55,833 --> 00:24:57,953
Speaker 6: got guys out and there's there's a vacuum right now.

507
00:24:58,234 --> 00:25:01,433
Speaker 5: I do think that that's a huge undersold part of this.

508
00:25:01,474 --> 00:25:03,033
Speaker 5: We talked about the three of us talked about this

509
00:25:03,114 --> 00:25:06,634
Speaker 5: yesterday a little bit, like we can be critical of

510
00:25:06,754 --> 00:25:09,234
Speaker 5: everything that's going on, critical of Girodmeo and how he's

511
00:25:09,273 --> 00:25:13,154
Speaker 5: handled certain things, and some of it's accurate, but it

512
00:25:13,234 --> 00:25:18,954
Speaker 5: is remarkable how all of the veterans that he wanted

513
00:25:18,994 --> 00:25:22,033
Speaker 5: to be his circle the wagon guys, almost all of

514
00:25:22,033 --> 00:25:24,273
Speaker 5: them have either been hurt or taken out of the

515
00:25:24,313 --> 00:25:27,434
Speaker 5: equation in some way. Yeah, and that's hard. Jonathan Jones

516
00:25:27,513 --> 00:25:29,793
Speaker 5: is one of the few guys that you know, even

517
00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:32,754
Speaker 5: off the top of my head, that was around for

518
00:25:32,793 --> 00:25:35,433
Speaker 5: any of you know, like Andrews is not there, you know,

519
00:25:35,833 --> 00:25:36,714
Speaker 5: like all of those.

520
00:25:36,553 --> 00:25:39,553
Speaker 6: Guys, Tim and Wise and I guess cardonas I mean

521
00:25:39,553 --> 00:25:41,274
Speaker 6: those are yeah, and even the only.

522
00:25:41,194 --> 00:25:43,473
Speaker 5: You know why, you know, why is this part of that?

523
00:25:43,513 --> 00:25:45,113
Speaker 5: You know, Cardona is a long snow, you know. I

524
00:25:45,114 --> 00:25:47,874
Speaker 5: mean it's you know, yeah, it's even even a guy

525
00:25:47,914 --> 00:25:50,033
Speaker 5: like Jacoby Brissett, who I think is a you know,

526
00:25:50,273 --> 00:25:54,113
Speaker 5: I think he's the consummate professional, but now is the

527
00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:56,873
Speaker 5: backup quarterback. So it's hard to lead at that spot.

528
00:25:56,954 --> 00:25:59,194
Speaker 5: So now you have a twenty two year old who's

529
00:25:59,353 --> 00:26:02,713
Speaker 5: who's sort of trying to deal with this. I mean,

530
00:26:02,793 --> 00:26:04,393
Speaker 5: let's call it what it is. You know, kind of

531
00:26:04,434 --> 00:26:08,353
Speaker 5: a young, immature group of receivers. You know, that's hard.

532
00:26:08,793 --> 00:26:10,474
Speaker 6: It is exact word that was brought up with.

533
00:26:10,634 --> 00:26:13,273
Speaker 4: I mean you would think that, you know, you're in

534
00:26:13,313 --> 00:26:18,194
Speaker 4: the movies. Drake May would walk in to the wide

535
00:26:18,194 --> 00:26:21,313
Speaker 4: receiver meeting while they're bitching and moaning about not getting

536
00:26:21,353 --> 00:26:23,874
Speaker 4: the ball, and he would rip them a new one

537
00:26:23,914 --> 00:26:25,833
Speaker 4: and say, you'll get the ball, and I give it

538
00:26:25,874 --> 00:26:28,793
Speaker 4: to you when you get open, when when the play

539
00:26:28,874 --> 00:26:32,194
Speaker 4: is for you or whatever like like he would, you know,

540
00:26:32,273 --> 00:26:35,194
Speaker 4: and then they'd be like I liked, you know, they

541
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:38,353
Speaker 4: get stars in their eyes, like, okay, you know our leader.

542
00:26:38,513 --> 00:26:41,073
Speaker 5: I like Pelt's answer to that though today, like, you know,

543
00:26:41,194 --> 00:26:43,033
Speaker 5: is it hard for him someone? I think Phil Perry

544
00:26:43,073 --> 00:26:44,634
Speaker 5: might have asked him if it's hard for a young

545
00:26:44,674 --> 00:26:48,273
Speaker 5: guy or maybe he was g r D and he

546
00:26:48,353 --> 00:26:51,673
Speaker 5: and Van Pelt said, you know, he's had people, you know,

547
00:26:51,954 --> 00:26:54,033
Speaker 5: bitching about not getting the ball before. This isn't the

548
00:26:54,114 --> 00:26:58,194
Speaker 5: first time quarterbacks deal with that. In other words, he's

549
00:26:58,234 --> 00:27:04,754
Speaker 5: got it. Yeah. I think everything about May is like

550
00:27:04,994 --> 00:27:08,434
Speaker 5: up here, like everything that we've seen, everything we've heard,

551
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:11,634
Speaker 5: and then watching him actually you know the people talk

552
00:27:11,674 --> 00:27:14,914
Speaker 5: about him and watching him talk, I think everything has

553
00:27:14,954 --> 00:27:18,674
Speaker 5: got to be positive from him the point of view.

554
00:27:18,714 --> 00:27:22,954
Speaker 6: Did you have that problem everard? High school guys, I'll

555
00:27:22,994 --> 00:27:24,194
Speaker 6: hand the ball off to you when I want.

556
00:27:24,234 --> 00:27:26,994
Speaker 5: Can I just tell you when I'll seriousness like this

557
00:27:27,073 --> 00:27:32,273
Speaker 5: is like, please don't take this. This is nineteen eighty five, Okay,

558
00:27:32,553 --> 00:27:35,954
Speaker 5: it's it's it's not in a very minor league high

559
00:27:35,954 --> 00:27:39,994
Speaker 5: school level. Okay, yes, yeah, the answer to that is yes.

560
00:27:40,033 --> 00:27:42,194
Speaker 4: The big thing with Paul, the big thing with Paul

561
00:27:42,234 --> 00:27:45,113
Speaker 4: and Everett is they complained about the spin because he

562
00:27:45,194 --> 00:27:48,873
Speaker 4: was the left throw it with the right hand of

563
00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:49,273
Speaker 4: the ball.

564
00:27:49,273 --> 00:27:53,313
Speaker 5: But I'm just telling you in high school, it's more

565
00:27:53,434 --> 00:27:55,273
Speaker 5: like the play was. And I didn't play in one

566
00:27:55,313 --> 00:27:58,953
Speaker 5: of these sophisticated spreads. When we played in high school.

567
00:27:59,513 --> 00:28:02,553
Speaker 5: You know, we ran the play and you ran the play.

568
00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:05,433
Speaker 5: So when even the past plays, they were basically designed

569
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:09,473
Speaker 5: to go to one person. Like we didn't have a

570
00:28:09,474 --> 00:28:12,394
Speaker 5: lot of high school quarterbacks in my day that were

571
00:28:12,434 --> 00:28:14,913
Speaker 5: like reading the defense and say, well, the safety was

572
00:28:14,914 --> 00:28:16,714
Speaker 5: down in the box, so I knew I had I

573
00:28:16,793 --> 00:28:19,553
Speaker 5: knew I had one on one on the outside. In

574
00:28:19,634 --> 00:28:24,954
Speaker 5: every play, Jimmy Gallanti would come back and say, Paul,

575
00:28:25,313 --> 00:28:29,633
Speaker 5: I was open. So one day we were playing this

576
00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:32,914
Speaker 5: was like this was we were sophomorees. We were playing

577
00:28:32,914 --> 00:28:36,033
Speaker 5: in a JV game in winthrom in like three plays

578
00:28:36,033 --> 00:28:39,554
Speaker 5: in a row, like three pass play every time I'm open,

579
00:28:39,594 --> 00:28:41,794
Speaker 5: I'm open. So he was the backside end and the

580
00:28:41,794 --> 00:28:44,633
Speaker 5: ball was always supposed to go to the to the

581
00:28:44,674 --> 00:28:48,594
Speaker 5: front side, and I just turned it looked he was

582
00:28:48,634 --> 00:28:50,754
Speaker 5: wide open. I throw him the ball. We made about

583
00:28:50,754 --> 00:28:53,314
Speaker 5: fifteen yards and the coach goes, why'd you throw it

584
00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:55,393
Speaker 5: in him? He goes, he comes back to the huddle.

585
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:57,314
Speaker 5: Every play he tells me he was wide open, he

586
00:28:57,434 --> 00:29:00,274
Speaker 5: was open. I throw it, But like I wouldn't have

587
00:29:00,314 --> 00:29:02,954
Speaker 5: done that, Like I wouldn't have read the field and

588
00:29:02,994 --> 00:29:05,514
Speaker 5: done that, only because I was so sick of listening

589
00:29:05,554 --> 00:29:08,794
Speaker 5: to him bitch every play. I just said, all right,

590
00:29:08,834 --> 00:29:09,474
Speaker 5: I'll look at him.

591
00:29:09,474 --> 00:29:10,994
Speaker 6: And then he said, get me again, you got me again,

592
00:29:11,114 --> 00:29:11,714
Speaker 6: got me open.

593
00:29:11,914 --> 00:29:15,113
Speaker 5: Then he dropped one later and he had the radio.

594
00:29:16,234 --> 00:29:19,514
Speaker 4: By the way, greatest guy ever you should have underlaying.

595
00:29:20,114 --> 00:29:21,554
Speaker 5: That's why I prefaced it.

596
00:29:21,554 --> 00:29:22,074
Speaker 4: What I don't want.

597
00:29:22,114 --> 00:29:24,314
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear the lock shots. I'm not

598
00:29:24,354 --> 00:29:25,194
Speaker 5: pretending it was real.

599
00:29:25,354 --> 00:29:26,394
Speaker 6: All the same receivers.

600
00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:29,393
Speaker 4: So like a JV game in nineteen eighty three, you

601
00:29:29,474 --> 00:29:31,754
Speaker 4: think you could go into the wide receiver room and

602
00:29:31,954 --> 00:29:33,834
Speaker 4: tell that story, And think I could tell.

603
00:29:33,754 --> 00:29:37,754
Speaker 5: Him, yeah, you know yeah, shut the's right.

604
00:29:38,154 --> 00:29:39,634
Speaker 6: Get in there and off your phones.

605
00:29:40,274 --> 00:29:44,113
Speaker 5: And then Paul and as Teddy Brusk would say to

606
00:29:44,314 --> 00:29:47,074
Speaker 5: Chad O Cho Senko, get off your phone and get

607
00:29:47,074 --> 00:29:48,074
Speaker 5: in your playbooks.

608
00:29:48,074 --> 00:29:51,234
Speaker 4: Paul right, Paul finishes his five minute like you know,

609
00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:54,274
Speaker 4: fire and Brimstone speech walks out and they're like, who

610
00:29:54,394 --> 00:29:54,554
Speaker 4: was that?

611
00:29:55,314 --> 00:29:59,554
Speaker 5: That's the guy that works on the website. He just notes,

612
00:29:59,634 --> 00:30:01,994
Speaker 5: all right, it does a decent notes call him. He's

613
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:04,314
Speaker 5: always talking about time management for some reason.

614
00:30:04,434 --> 00:30:07,034
Speaker 4: Next up is Austin and Illinois. What's up, Boston?

615
00:30:08,794 --> 00:30:14,113
Speaker 10: Hey, guys near me? Yes, Hey, I just want to know.

616
00:30:14,834 --> 00:30:16,274
Speaker 10: I know, Paul, you do this a lot.

617
00:30:16,714 --> 00:30:20,194
Speaker 11: What are we gonna stop discounting wins against backup quarterbacks?

618
00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:26,393
Speaker 4: Huh, Paul doesn't disc He does discount wins again backup quarterbacks.

619
00:30:26,434 --> 00:30:27,114
Speaker 5: I don't just count.

620
00:30:27,394 --> 00:30:31,154
Speaker 10: I mean it's a league full of backup I mean

621
00:30:31,554 --> 00:30:32,514
Speaker 10: play of every other week.

622
00:30:33,954 --> 00:30:38,314
Speaker 4: But Austin, it's not that it's it's no I understand

623
00:30:38,314 --> 00:30:40,873
Speaker 4: what he's saying. It's not that the win isn't important

624
00:30:40,994 --> 00:30:45,113
Speaker 4: or isn't as good. It's if you're analyzing certain parts

625
00:30:45,154 --> 00:30:48,394
Speaker 4: of your team, such as your defense, and you're playing

626
00:30:48,474 --> 00:30:52,434
Speaker 4: against a guy who really can't complete passes. You have

627
00:30:52,514 --> 00:30:55,474
Speaker 4: to take that into consideration. You have to take that,

628
00:30:55,834 --> 00:30:59,633
Speaker 4: you have to take the context of the game into consideration.

629
00:30:59,874 --> 00:31:03,034
Speaker 4: It's not like you're not excited about the win. Absolutely,

630
00:31:03,914 --> 00:31:06,954
Speaker 4: I take a win against I don't know any backup

631
00:31:06,994 --> 00:31:10,114
Speaker 4: quarterback right now, Austin.

632
00:31:11,794 --> 00:31:13,194
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, if you're.

633
00:31:13,074 --> 00:31:16,393
Speaker 4: The problem is last year you weren't even winning those games.

634
00:31:17,314 --> 00:31:21,194
Speaker 5: Exactly what I'm trying to say is people seem to

635
00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:24,594
Speaker 5: have gotten caught off guard by by how far they've fallen,

636
00:31:24,634 --> 00:31:27,634
Speaker 5: and I don't think they been paying attention, right, And

637
00:31:27,994 --> 00:31:30,554
Speaker 5: the wins that they've gotten over the last two years

638
00:31:31,634 --> 00:31:34,554
Speaker 5: have so often come in those kinds of situations. The

639
00:31:34,594 --> 00:31:37,554
Speaker 5: few wins that they've gotten, Like, if you go thirteen

640
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:41,393
Speaker 5: and four, well, that's I mean, that's a great record.

641
00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:44,393
Speaker 5: So yeah, maybe you won three or four against backup quarterback.

642
00:31:44,394 --> 00:31:48,514
Speaker 5: You went thirteen and four. They went four and thirteen, right,

643
00:31:48,594 --> 00:31:50,713
Speaker 5: and played all those games against backup quarterback.

644
00:31:51,234 --> 00:31:54,754
Speaker 4: And the subject of backup quarterbacks comes in the context

645
00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:59,034
Speaker 4: of trying to evaluate how good was the defense in

646
00:31:59,114 --> 00:32:02,274
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and so you have to take into

647
00:32:02,274 --> 00:32:06,114
Speaker 4: consideration the opponent, you know, were their injuries on their offense.

648
00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:09,074
Speaker 4: That's only fair if you're going to get an accurate

649
00:32:09,634 --> 00:32:11,673
Speaker 4: idea of how good your defense was.

650
00:32:11,994 --> 00:32:14,994
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not stunned that the defense has played the

651
00:32:14,994 --> 00:32:17,274
Speaker 5: way it's played. I'm a little surprised that it's been

652
00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:20,434
Speaker 5: so bad against the run. Yeah, but in terms of points,

653
00:32:20,474 --> 00:32:23,714
Speaker 5: I am not like you guys know, like I think

654
00:32:23,834 --> 00:32:26,113
Speaker 5: when they've played good offense is over the last two

655
00:32:26,274 --> 00:32:30,434
Speaker 5: three years. This is what's happened points wise, not rushing

656
00:32:30,514 --> 00:32:32,914
Speaker 5: yards wise. I don't want to upset Bill Belichick will

657
00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:33,633
Speaker 5: get very mad at me.

658
00:32:33,794 --> 00:32:35,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he'll feel really bad.

659
00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:36,873
Speaker 5: Right, he feels bad. I know he's got a lot

660
00:32:36,874 --> 00:32:39,074
Speaker 5: of yards per rush. It's a lot of empathy. Well,

661
00:32:39,074 --> 00:32:44,074
Speaker 5: it depends. It's yards per rush last year, this year,

662
00:32:44,154 --> 00:32:48,474
Speaker 5: it's yards per game. Because you have to pick the

663
00:32:48,474 --> 00:32:50,714
Speaker 5: stat that makes him look the best. You know, like

664
00:32:50,834 --> 00:32:53,714
Speaker 5: last year they finished first and average yards allowed per

665
00:32:53,794 --> 00:32:56,874
Speaker 5: carry in twenty twenty three, so that's what you go by.

666
00:32:57,354 --> 00:33:00,834
Speaker 5: This year, the Patriots currently ranked seventeenth in that category.

667
00:33:00,874 --> 00:33:02,433
Speaker 5: So we're not going to talk about that. We're going

668
00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:06,394
Speaker 5: to go with tied for twenty first in yards per

669
00:33:06,434 --> 00:33:09,634
Speaker 5: game extra four spots correct in the twenty somewhere.

670
00:33:09,794 --> 00:33:11,554
Speaker 6: Yeah, bottom third of the least.

671
00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:15,314
Speaker 4: So it's not it's not a matter of diminishing the wins.

672
00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:20,834
Speaker 4: It's a matter of objectively looking at the different facets

673
00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:24,274
Speaker 4: of the team and saying, you know, how.

674
00:33:24,194 --> 00:33:25,194
Speaker 5: How the wins were compiled?

675
00:33:25,634 --> 00:33:29,953
Speaker 4: Yeah, or losses. You know, in this case, you know

676
00:33:30,034 --> 00:33:33,514
Speaker 4: you were giving up ten points and losing the game so.

677
00:33:33,674 --> 00:33:35,834
Speaker 5: Well, but you can also it can also work the

678
00:33:35,834 --> 00:33:38,754
Speaker 5: other way. You can also lose the game because the

679
00:33:38,794 --> 00:33:41,714
Speaker 5: other team was fully healthy and you were decimated right

680
00:33:41,754 --> 00:33:43,914
Speaker 5: in a game that quote unquote you might have won

681
00:33:44,034 --> 00:33:46,474
Speaker 5: had you had some of your personnel. Yeah, you know,

682
00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:47,153
Speaker 5: that's happened.

683
00:33:47,194 --> 00:33:48,874
Speaker 4: Certain super bowls come to mind.

684
00:33:49,794 --> 00:33:52,754
Speaker 5: Let's go to that's a great example, the Gronk super Bowl.

685
00:33:52,994 --> 00:33:54,074
Speaker 5: I assume you're talking about it.

686
00:33:54,154 --> 00:33:55,354
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Malcolm Butler.

687
00:33:55,954 --> 00:33:57,633
Speaker 5: Oh, that wasn't an injury.

688
00:33:57,834 --> 00:34:00,034
Speaker 4: No, I know, but he wasn't a vailable But I think.

689
00:33:59,914 --> 00:34:02,913
Speaker 5: That you can make a strong argument. It's not like

690
00:34:03,034 --> 00:34:04,873
Speaker 5: black and white, but you can make a strong argument

691
00:34:04,914 --> 00:34:07,194
Speaker 5: the second Giants loss if Gronk is healthy.

692
00:34:07,194 --> 00:34:09,114
Speaker 4: Is healthy and not just you can I mean, yeah,

693
00:34:09,154 --> 00:34:12,274
Speaker 4: he wasn't even a decoy because they It's the same thing.

694
00:34:12,434 --> 00:34:13,594
Speaker 4: I know it is.

695
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:16,834
Speaker 5: Of course, it is context, and we.

696
00:34:16,714 --> 00:34:19,474
Speaker 4: Talk about that all the time when evaluating football. There's

697
00:34:19,554 --> 00:34:22,794
Speaker 4: so much going on throughout the game and throughout each

698
00:34:22,914 --> 00:34:25,714
Speaker 4: play that you know, just to go on the game

699
00:34:25,794 --> 00:34:28,594
Speaker 4: log and look at the stats is not fair. It

700
00:34:28,634 --> 00:34:31,953
Speaker 4: doesn't tell you the whole picture. You know, garbage time

701
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:35,314
Speaker 4: stats and and all that stuff come into play, whether

702
00:34:35,354 --> 00:34:38,873
Speaker 4: you had a lead, whether you didn't have a lead. Yeah,

703
00:34:39,114 --> 00:34:43,593
Speaker 4: football is a complicated game. When it got hert evaluation.

704
00:34:43,074 --> 00:34:44,314
Speaker 6: Who got hurt in the middle of the game and

705
00:34:44,473 --> 00:34:45,194
Speaker 6: was swapped out?

706
00:34:45,433 --> 00:34:46,993
Speaker 5: You know, complicated man.

707
00:34:47,234 --> 00:34:48,514
Speaker 6: So we watched the game.

708
00:34:49,074 --> 00:34:51,074
Speaker 4: Carlton's in Dallas. What's up, Carlton?

709
00:34:52,393 --> 00:34:54,114
Speaker 10: Good afternoon, guys, good afternoon.

710
00:34:54,274 --> 00:34:57,314
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, real quick.

711
00:34:58,074 --> 00:35:03,433
Speaker 10: Awesome job confuses that's with Josh Show. Michael Hasey got

712
00:35:03,433 --> 00:35:07,554
Speaker 10: five targets last week. He caught every all five averaged

713
00:35:07,594 --> 00:35:10,274
Speaker 10: almost ten yards around nine and a quarter nine point

714
00:35:10,314 --> 00:35:15,673
Speaker 10: five yards per catch. We the coaching staff a VP

715
00:35:15,953 --> 00:35:19,234
Speaker 10: and Andrew Riard said in Trandy Camp we were going

716
00:35:19,314 --> 00:35:21,594
Speaker 10: to be the number one screen team in the league.

717
00:35:22,034 --> 00:35:26,354
Speaker 10: But yet that play has been not used effectively. But

718
00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:29,473
Speaker 10: it seemed to go pretty well last week. I think

719
00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:32,034
Speaker 10: I wouldn't know what y'all think. Should Hasty be getting

720
00:35:32,034 --> 00:35:32,554
Speaker 10: more touches?

721
00:35:33,994 --> 00:35:35,314
Speaker 5: Okay more than five?

722
00:35:35,514 --> 00:35:36,234
Speaker 4: It's a good question.

723
00:35:36,274 --> 00:35:39,114
Speaker 5: I mean, that's I would. I would agree with Carlton's assessment.

724
00:35:39,194 --> 00:35:41,673
Speaker 5: I think last week was the first week that they

725
00:35:41,714 --> 00:35:43,194
Speaker 5: had some success in the screen game.

726
00:35:43,634 --> 00:35:45,633
Speaker 4: But five grows to a running back is a lot.

727
00:35:46,514 --> 00:35:48,473
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I like it. I mean, I think, you know,

728
00:35:48,514 --> 00:35:50,993
Speaker 6: Antony Gibson has a productive the last couple of weeks,

729
00:35:51,034 --> 00:35:54,114
Speaker 6: and Romander is dealing with whatever Romander's even dealing with.

730
00:35:54,154 --> 00:35:55,354
Speaker 6: So it seems like they've.

731
00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,714
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I agree with I mean, I don't know

732
00:35:57,714 --> 00:36:00,433
Speaker 5: if he's talking specifically, should Hasty get more touches or

733
00:36:00,473 --> 00:36:04,754
Speaker 5: should they run those plays more? But they've struggled with

734
00:36:04,794 --> 00:36:08,234
Speaker 5: those I agree with his assessment. They they've they've run screens,

735
00:36:08,314 --> 00:36:10,834
Speaker 5: and I do remember when when Van Pelt said that

736
00:36:11,274 --> 00:36:12,993
Speaker 5: what we want to be the best screen team in

737
00:36:12,994 --> 00:36:14,913
Speaker 5: the league. They haven't been able to get it going

738
00:36:15,034 --> 00:36:19,074
Speaker 5: last week, you know, and they weren't necessarily all traditional screens.

739
00:36:19,114 --> 00:36:22,113
Speaker 5: Like the touchdown probably wasn't a screen per se.

740
00:36:22,234 --> 00:36:23,354
Speaker 4: No, he was out in the flood.

741
00:36:23,714 --> 00:36:25,913
Speaker 5: It's a hot run. It's a hot run, hot right

742
00:36:25,994 --> 00:36:29,674
Speaker 5: route ut And you know that's to me a screen,

743
00:36:30,194 --> 00:36:32,154
Speaker 5: Like we know that he's going to leak out right

744
00:36:32,194 --> 00:36:34,754
Speaker 5: over here, you know, scat protection.

745
00:36:35,354 --> 00:36:36,674
Speaker 6: Yeah, is that what you call?

746
00:36:36,873 --> 00:36:37,553
Speaker 5: You know what that means?

747
00:36:37,594 --> 00:36:37,794
Speaker 4: Right?

748
00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:40,913
Speaker 5: No, that's when the back is going out scat scat ye.

749
00:36:41,953 --> 00:36:43,553
Speaker 5: So you know that they're sending more than you have

750
00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:46,073
Speaker 5: to get it. Basically, you know who taught me that

751
00:36:46,194 --> 00:36:50,314
Speaker 5: who's that Bruce Armstrong scam and scat protect.

752
00:36:50,034 --> 00:36:52,754
Speaker 4: Scam and scat protections all right.

753
00:36:53,473 --> 00:36:57,633
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you over there, no, because I don't.

754
00:36:57,994 --> 00:37:01,913
Speaker 5: I'm sure that there's like a really really specific well

755
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,953
Speaker 5: only in this detail that I don't remember because that's

756
00:37:05,034 --> 00:37:07,434
Speaker 5: me just enough to get it wrong.

757
00:37:07,554 --> 00:37:11,714
Speaker 4: Well, scat protection is only when you do strong side.

758
00:37:13,074 --> 00:37:14,194
Speaker 4: Anthony's in Seattle?

759
00:37:14,194 --> 00:37:16,393
Speaker 5: What's up Anthony Football Almanac over here?

760
00:37:17,194 --> 00:37:18,954
Speaker 12: Hey?

761
00:37:19,274 --> 00:37:19,513
Speaker 4: Hey?

762
00:37:20,433 --> 00:37:21,274
Speaker 5: Where you've been? Man?

763
00:37:21,554 --> 00:37:24,073
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've emailed a couple of times.

764
00:37:24,114 --> 00:37:27,354
Speaker 13: They didn't get read, but you listen to every every episode.

765
00:37:27,433 --> 00:37:30,194
Speaker 13: Love you guys, and uh and Evan. I don't know

766
00:37:30,194 --> 00:37:32,434
Speaker 13: if Evan's there, but I've been listening to Catch twenty

767
00:37:32,433 --> 00:37:35,033
Speaker 13: two also, and that's the first time that there's been

768
00:37:35,473 --> 00:37:38,474
Speaker 13: a podcast other than TU that I found worth listening

769
00:37:38,514 --> 00:37:44,354
Speaker 13: to this. I'm sorry, yeah listen, Uh looking man.

770
00:37:44,634 --> 00:37:46,954
Speaker 12: One thing I love about you is you keep us rounded.

771
00:37:46,994 --> 00:37:48,433
Speaker 12: You don't get too high, it don't get too low.

772
00:37:48,754 --> 00:37:50,274
Speaker 12: But I want to push back a little bit. And

773
00:37:50,514 --> 00:37:52,874
Speaker 12: you don't mean to do this. But every time someone

774
00:37:53,114 --> 00:37:55,674
Speaker 12: kind of says, oh we got a quarterback, you're you know,

775
00:37:55,873 --> 00:37:59,593
Speaker 12: I hope, so we're pumped the breaks there. Listen, Patrious Nation,

776
00:37:59,913 --> 00:38:01,754
Speaker 12: I do. We don't need to pump the break. We

777
00:38:01,834 --> 00:38:04,634
Speaker 12: got a quarterback. It's not just two games. Yes, it

778
00:38:04,674 --> 00:38:07,394
Speaker 12: is the new rule of thumb in this league. Listen,

779
00:38:07,754 --> 00:38:09,714
Speaker 12: is you know what when you see it. I don't

780
00:38:09,714 --> 00:38:11,674
Speaker 12: know if they've gotten better at, you know, in college

781
00:38:11,674 --> 00:38:13,914
Speaker 12: at developing or the league's gotten better at not reaching

782
00:38:13,953 --> 00:38:15,914
Speaker 12: and when they get them in the building they develop.

783
00:38:16,034 --> 00:38:19,553
Speaker 12: But it's been a constant upward arrow from college to

784
00:38:19,953 --> 00:38:23,234
Speaker 12: training camp to preseason. In our regular season, he's dropping

785
00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:25,873
Speaker 12: the same bombs in the buckets to boot that that

786
00:38:25,873 --> 00:38:28,274
Speaker 12: that he dropped to jay Von Baker that he dropped.

787
00:38:28,354 --> 00:38:31,314
Speaker 12: He's got the same off platform, offscript plays to the

788
00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:33,633
Speaker 12: Osborne that didn't count, but we saw it that he's

789
00:38:33,634 --> 00:38:35,513
Speaker 12: doing now the Hunter Henry and back to back game

790
00:38:35,913 --> 00:38:38,153
Speaker 12: like this is the player and it's without training will

791
00:38:38,594 --> 00:38:40,354
Speaker 12: So and it's not just Drake may it's it's the

792
00:38:40,674 --> 00:38:44,993
Speaker 12: top three Daniels, Williams uh like like the overal of

793
00:38:45,034 --> 00:38:46,953
Speaker 12: thumb is probably one of those three are going to

794
00:38:46,994 --> 00:38:48,513
Speaker 12: work out. I think the new rule of thumb, and

795
00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:51,674
Speaker 12: it's not just quarterback, is with these young players. If

796
00:38:51,674 --> 00:38:54,274
Speaker 12: they look right away like they can play. Most likely

797
00:38:54,354 --> 00:38:56,674
Speaker 12: they can play. There's always the exceptions. I don't want

798
00:38:56,674 --> 00:38:58,354
Speaker 12: to go on a super long NT. I love you, guys.

799
00:38:58,393 --> 00:39:00,194
Speaker 12: I've been listening to every episode, so I've been with

800
00:39:00,274 --> 00:39:02,033
Speaker 12: you in spirit. I'm gonna try to get back on

801
00:39:02,074 --> 00:39:03,754
Speaker 12: the calling in a little bit more often.

802
00:39:03,873 --> 00:39:07,593
Speaker 4: All right, thanks, thanks Anthony, good job good that was Chester, Like, yeah,

803
00:39:07,634 --> 00:39:11,593
Speaker 4: I lift up. You know, Parcels said, if they don't

804
00:39:11,594 --> 00:39:13,794
Speaker 4: bite when they're puppies, they won't bite when their dogs.

805
00:39:13,834 --> 00:39:16,114
Speaker 5: I could give you an I could give you a

806
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:18,393
Speaker 5: laundry list of guys who bid as puppies, and no,

807
00:39:18,473 --> 00:39:21,153
Speaker 5: I know went the other way, starting with your guy.

808
00:39:22,354 --> 00:39:25,834
Speaker 5: Let Baker bake why he's doing well. He was great

809
00:39:25,834 --> 00:39:27,953
Speaker 5: as a rookie and then five years later he was

810
00:39:28,114 --> 00:39:30,834
Speaker 5: out of the league and just kind of resurrecting his

811
00:39:30,873 --> 00:39:33,393
Speaker 5: career now throwing interceptions.

812
00:39:33,953 --> 00:39:36,314
Speaker 4: I blamed the team, by the way I blame the teams.

813
00:39:36,714 --> 00:39:40,034
Speaker 5: What what what? What is our team? That's my point?

814
00:39:40,154 --> 00:39:42,754
Speaker 4: Okay, but but we're just talking about Drake.

815
00:39:42,834 --> 00:39:45,354
Speaker 5: I know. I did get back to our original conversation.

816
00:39:45,714 --> 00:39:48,154
Speaker 5: We used to make fun of these teams. I know, yes,

817
00:39:48,354 --> 00:39:49,993
Speaker 5: I know now we're one of them. I know, But

818
00:39:50,634 --> 00:39:53,154
Speaker 5: like do we have the support system in place?

819
00:39:53,354 --> 00:39:54,354
Speaker 4: Listen, I I when.

820
00:39:54,234 --> 00:39:56,754
Speaker 5: These guys all come into the league with the requisite talents.

821
00:39:56,794 --> 00:39:59,593
Speaker 4: When when Mack was here first year, he didn't look

822
00:39:59,674 --> 00:40:02,513
Speaker 4: like Drake. I will say that Mac was not the

823
00:40:02,634 --> 00:40:05,393
Speaker 4: top but five pick at that time. I said, I'm

824
00:40:05,473 --> 00:40:08,633
Speaker 4: very pleased that my words, I'm very pleased that Mac

825
00:40:08,714 --> 00:40:11,473
Speaker 4: Jones is our quarterback. And you know, how did that

826
00:40:11,514 --> 00:40:12,194
Speaker 4: work out for me?

827
00:40:13,354 --> 00:40:16,074
Speaker 5: So no, what I what I would just say is like,

828
00:40:16,154 --> 00:40:17,473
Speaker 5: and I'm going to be very fair, I'm going to

829
00:40:17,473 --> 00:40:19,794
Speaker 5: take Drake May out of this. I'm not convinced that

830
00:40:19,873 --> 00:40:23,834
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels either, Like they've played seven games, Like,

831
00:40:24,354 --> 00:40:27,513
Speaker 5: I don't just write a career like if if they

832
00:40:27,514 --> 00:40:31,114
Speaker 5: had bad games, I wouldn't say they stink. You know,

833
00:40:31,473 --> 00:40:33,473
Speaker 5: c J. Stroud now is going on a year and

834
00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:37,834
Speaker 5: a half of a high level of play. I'm ready

835
00:40:37,834 --> 00:40:40,354
Speaker 5: to say c J. Stroud is the real deal, Like

836
00:40:40,433 --> 00:40:43,994
Speaker 5: he's playing at an exceptionally high level for an extended

837
00:40:44,034 --> 00:40:48,314
Speaker 5: period of time. But I don't know. If you're Caleb Williams,

838
00:40:48,354 --> 00:40:50,954
Speaker 5: he's been pretty seems like he's on the upward tra directory.

839
00:40:51,194 --> 00:40:54,314
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a believer in the talent, and I

840
00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:57,194
Speaker 5: really like Caleb Williams. But are you for sure are

841
00:40:57,194 --> 00:41:00,234
Speaker 5: you convinced that Caleb Williams is a hit?

842
00:41:00,554 --> 00:41:02,314
Speaker 6: No, not yet, but I mean I would say, just

843
00:41:02,314 --> 00:41:04,234
Speaker 6: to push back to I mean, it hasn't been a

844
00:41:04,234 --> 00:41:05,873
Speaker 6: straight trajectory for Drake. I mean, I think there was

845
00:41:05,913 --> 00:41:07,714
Speaker 6: a period in the summer during training camp where you're

846
00:41:07,754 --> 00:41:10,033
Speaker 6: kind of like, it feels like he's stagnated a little bit,

847
00:41:10,114 --> 00:41:12,354
Speaker 6: you know, in that little period, and then you know,

848
00:41:12,393 --> 00:41:14,113
Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks have been have been really good.

849
00:41:14,154 --> 00:41:17,714
Speaker 5: But you know, I optimist, but they're still not scoring

850
00:41:17,754 --> 00:41:20,234
Speaker 5: and moving the ball, like they haven't even gotten three

851
00:41:20,314 --> 00:41:24,674
Speaker 5: hundred yards of offense. But they will, They absolutely will.

852
00:41:24,714 --> 00:41:26,834
Speaker 5: I'm a believe even were in the talent. That's why

853
00:41:26,834 --> 00:41:29,913
Speaker 5: I say, I hope so, I think so, but I

854
00:41:30,034 --> 00:41:31,234
Speaker 5: want to see it first.

855
00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:32,674
Speaker 6: Right, Well, well, you don't want to annoy them before

856
00:41:33,034 --> 00:41:34,754
Speaker 6: exactly you do it after two games and you're in

857
00:41:34,834 --> 00:41:38,794
Speaker 6: the crowd. Crowd, it takes I mean, it's it takes

858
00:41:38,794 --> 00:41:40,074
Speaker 6: some of the fun out of it. You know that

859
00:41:40,114 --> 00:41:42,114
Speaker 6: those games when he does have games that make you

860
00:41:42,114 --> 00:41:44,234
Speaker 6: really But I said yesterday, Paul, I think you were

861
00:41:44,274 --> 00:41:46,754
Speaker 6: you were out shooting. One of your shows was I'm

862
00:41:46,834 --> 00:41:48,674
Speaker 6: kind of ready for the bad May game, as it's

863
00:41:48,674 --> 00:41:50,553
Speaker 6: gonna be a bad May game, right, Like that's it's

864
00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:52,834
Speaker 6: just it's gonna happen. I feel like it's gonna have one.

865
00:41:52,994 --> 00:41:56,433
Speaker 5: Can we not have that couple of others? If we

866
00:41:56,473 --> 00:41:58,354
Speaker 5: get a bad May game? Like, what else do we have?

867
00:41:58,834 --> 00:41:58,953
Speaker 7: No?

868
00:41:59,034 --> 00:42:00,593
Speaker 6: I know it would be pretty bleak.

869
00:42:00,634 --> 00:42:03,674
Speaker 4: If Brad's in Ohio? What's up? Brad?

870
00:42:05,514 --> 00:42:11,754
Speaker 14: A good morning guy. So anyway, just have a couple

871
00:42:12,154 --> 00:42:15,553
Speaker 14: observations about our team internally that I want to let

872
00:42:15,794 --> 00:42:18,794
Speaker 14: let you know about Brad from Ohio. But I'm a

873
00:42:18,834 --> 00:42:23,554
Speaker 14: Michigan fan, so I've watched a lot of them. Michael

874
00:42:23,634 --> 00:42:26,873
Speaker 14: and when you and Michael Jordan's.

875
00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:31,474
Speaker 15: And Michael jordan Is will never be a run blocker,

876
00:42:32,314 --> 00:42:35,754
Speaker 15: I mean never has been, not even in college. And

877
00:42:35,834 --> 00:42:40,754
Speaker 15: Michael Jordan's and when he's a great player. The only

878
00:42:40,834 --> 00:42:45,073
Speaker 15: problem he had played the best was Ben Bretison. I

879
00:42:45,074 --> 00:42:46,113
Speaker 15: think he played with.

880
00:42:47,554 --> 00:42:55,114
Speaker 16: Yeah, ye, inconsistent like you know at times and stuff.

881
00:42:55,154 --> 00:42:57,354
Speaker 16: And I believe he even got benched at times for

882
00:42:57,514 --> 00:42:58,834
Speaker 16: it at Michigan.

883
00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:01,514
Speaker 4: I know. But how many years is he out of college?

884
00:43:01,873 --> 00:43:03,474
Speaker 5: This is his fifth year, fifth.

885
00:43:03,314 --> 00:43:05,953
Speaker 4: Year, so right, eight days off.

886
00:43:06,114 --> 00:43:09,073
Speaker 15: I mean, you know, that was one of the new

887
00:43:09,433 --> 00:43:12,194
Speaker 15: things they noticed when they when he played at Michigan.

888
00:43:12,554 --> 00:43:16,274
Speaker 15: But I'm hoping that, you know, that we can get

889
00:43:17,234 --> 00:43:22,113
Speaker 15: Javon Baker into the mix and have a little empathies

890
00:43:22,154 --> 00:43:26,554
Speaker 15: for Jared Mayow. The fans are like really hard on him,

891
00:43:27,034 --> 00:43:30,473
Speaker 15: and you know, the guy look at have empathy for him.

892
00:43:30,594 --> 00:43:32,913
Speaker 15: How how would someone else feel if they were put

893
00:43:32,994 --> 00:43:36,513
Speaker 15: in the same circumstance. I mean, you know, are they

894
00:43:36,554 --> 00:43:37,754
Speaker 15: going to do better than.

895
00:43:37,554 --> 00:43:38,194
Speaker 10: What he has?

896
00:43:38,433 --> 00:43:40,674
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't know, but I hear what

897
00:43:40,714 --> 00:43:44,234
Speaker 4: you're saying, Like I'd say, rather than empathy, just a

898
00:43:44,274 --> 00:43:48,553
Speaker 4: little patience. Yes, he's he's not as smooth as you'd

899
00:43:48,594 --> 00:43:52,594
Speaker 4: like him to be messaging wise, but we don't know

900
00:43:52,674 --> 00:43:55,114
Speaker 4: how what he's doing in the locker room, and it

901
00:43:55,154 --> 00:43:58,834
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like he's lost the locker room where guys

902
00:43:59,473 --> 00:44:02,114
Speaker 4: you know, I think I think they're still with him.

903
00:44:02,354 --> 00:44:05,473
Speaker 4: Uh So, so let's see how they respond, you know,

904
00:44:05,594 --> 00:44:07,553
Speaker 4: whether or not they win this game, Let's see how

905
00:44:07,594 --> 00:44:08,114
Speaker 4: they play.

906
00:44:08,314 --> 00:44:11,794
Speaker 5: That's you know, that's I think that that's more more

907
00:44:11,834 --> 00:44:15,274
Speaker 5: important really than anything, is right, Do they change the

908
00:44:15,314 --> 00:44:16,433
Speaker 5: way they've looked.

909
00:44:16,314 --> 00:44:17,794
Speaker 6: Right, some fight.

910
00:44:18,074 --> 00:44:20,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex is in Virginia. What's up, Alex?

911
00:44:21,873 --> 00:44:25,993
Speaker 11: Hey guys, Hey time, long time.

912
00:44:26,194 --> 00:44:27,594
Speaker 17: First of all, I love you guys, listen to you

913
00:44:27,634 --> 00:44:28,234
Speaker 17: guys all the time.

914
00:44:28,354 --> 00:44:29,393
Speaker 16: Really appreciate what you guys.

915
00:44:29,554 --> 00:44:30,194
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

916
00:44:31,433 --> 00:44:33,393
Speaker 11: I wanted to rub the value that I've been looking

917
00:44:33,433 --> 00:44:35,034
Speaker 11: at the past two weeks.

918
00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:37,114
Speaker 17: I've noticed Wise's comments.

919
00:44:36,714 --> 00:44:41,514
Speaker 11: About preparation in particular, and just this past week Godchaw

920
00:44:41,594 --> 00:44:44,513
Speaker 11: joined him on that train and in his conference was

921
00:44:44,554 --> 00:44:47,553
Speaker 11: talking about preparation being an issue. I'm not on the

922
00:44:47,554 --> 00:44:49,794
Speaker 11: fire drive train, but it is something I'm looking at.

923
00:44:49,873 --> 00:44:51,834
Speaker 11: I'm just curious if you guys have seen that. What

924
00:44:51,873 --> 00:44:52,553
Speaker 11: do you guys think of that?

925
00:44:53,034 --> 00:44:55,553
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Dietrich Wise mentioned it.

926
00:44:56,354 --> 00:44:59,514
Speaker 5: Yeah, preparation thing was yeap was a red flag?

927
00:44:59,674 --> 00:45:01,754
Speaker 4: Thanks Alex. I mean, let's face it, it's something you

928
00:45:01,834 --> 00:45:03,754
Speaker 4: never had to worry about for the last twenty years.

929
00:45:03,794 --> 00:45:06,234
Speaker 5: But then I want to be fair to the preparation

930
00:45:06,354 --> 00:45:09,473
Speaker 5: in this past game obviously was good. Yeah, because the

931
00:45:09,473 --> 00:45:11,714
Speaker 5: first quarter was arguably the best quarter of football they've

932
00:45:11,714 --> 00:45:14,553
Speaker 5: played all year. Right, they came out, they went right

933
00:45:14,554 --> 00:45:15,274
Speaker 5: down the field.

934
00:45:15,074 --> 00:45:16,194
Speaker 4: And scored, made us stop.

935
00:45:16,274 --> 00:45:18,314
Speaker 5: They stopped I think they gave up one first down

936
00:45:18,314 --> 00:45:20,274
Speaker 5: and then got a stop and they went right down

937
00:45:20,274 --> 00:45:22,274
Speaker 5: the field to kicked a field goal. Yep, that's the

938
00:45:22,274 --> 00:45:24,593
Speaker 5: first quarter. That Now you're into the second quarter now

939
00:45:25,473 --> 00:45:26,194
Speaker 5: and then just.

940
00:45:26,154 --> 00:45:28,674
Speaker 6: Black them all. Now you're ready to play, but you

941
00:45:28,714 --> 00:45:30,393
Speaker 6: can't sustain it.

942
00:45:30,873 --> 00:45:32,393
Speaker 5: Maybe they hurt some of that. You know, we got

943
00:45:32,433 --> 00:45:33,913
Speaker 5: to come up with a better game plan. We got

944
00:45:33,913 --> 00:45:36,873
Speaker 5: to try some different things. Whatever they tried this week.

945
00:45:36,913 --> 00:45:38,953
Speaker 5: And you know Van Pell talked about it, you know,

946
00:45:38,953 --> 00:45:41,513
Speaker 5: an hour ago, he was really happy. Maybe it's like

947
00:45:41,714 --> 00:45:43,754
Speaker 5: just scored a touchdown. Maybe it's less about.

948
00:45:43,514 --> 00:45:45,674
Speaker 4: The preparation and more about what happens when you get

949
00:45:45,714 --> 00:45:47,953
Speaker 4: hit in the mouth. You know, how do you adjust,

950
00:45:49,234 --> 00:45:49,513
Speaker 4: you know.

951
00:45:49,754 --> 00:45:52,393
Speaker 6: Back to our soft come Yeah, yeah, right, I mean

952
00:45:52,393 --> 00:45:54,913
Speaker 6: and that's you know that I mean, And that's just

953
00:45:54,953 --> 00:45:57,113
Speaker 6: in game, especially when it was happening over and over

954
00:45:57,154 --> 00:45:59,073
Speaker 6: and over and over again. You know, that was where

955
00:45:59,114 --> 00:46:01,354
Speaker 6: you were hoping you would see at some point because

956
00:46:01,393 --> 00:46:03,714
Speaker 6: even some of these bad Patriots defenses, I'd feel like

957
00:46:04,194 --> 00:46:06,154
Speaker 6: they'd always kind of find a way near the end.

958
00:46:06,234 --> 00:46:08,234
Speaker 6: Maybe they'll force a couple punts and you know, like

959
00:46:08,594 --> 00:46:10,473
Speaker 6: give you a chance. The offense has never been able

960
00:46:10,473 --> 00:46:11,274
Speaker 6: to take advantage of it.

961
00:46:11,314 --> 00:46:14,433
Speaker 5: But there's a reason why it's so hard when the

962
00:46:14,473 --> 00:46:17,234
Speaker 5: other team. When a team lines up and he's trying

963
00:46:17,234 --> 00:46:20,354
Speaker 5: to run the clock out and they just line up

964
00:46:20,393 --> 00:46:22,873
Speaker 5: and run the ball, there's a reason why that's so hard. Yeah,

965
00:46:22,913 --> 00:46:25,113
Speaker 5: because if the other team knows that you're running the ball,

966
00:46:25,514 --> 00:46:28,073
Speaker 5: in general terms, they're gonna stop you if they if

967
00:46:28,114 --> 00:46:31,873
Speaker 5: they want to, you know, if there's a desperation to

968
00:46:31,913 --> 00:46:35,474
Speaker 5: get the ball back. You usually see the team stop

969
00:46:35,674 --> 00:46:37,714
Speaker 5: the other team and force the punt to force them

970
00:46:37,714 --> 00:46:40,193
Speaker 5: to do something different. But that's why so many times

971
00:46:40,234 --> 00:46:43,714
Speaker 5: you see Patrick Mahomes making a play on those third downs,

972
00:46:44,074 --> 00:46:47,314
Speaker 5: or Josh Allen, you know, keeping it himself, because if

973
00:46:47,314 --> 00:46:50,274
Speaker 5: we just runned between the tackles, ninety nine percent of

974
00:46:50,274 --> 00:46:51,794
Speaker 5: the time, the other team's gonna figure out how to

975
00:46:51,794 --> 00:46:55,274
Speaker 5: stop it three times before they get ten yards. And

976
00:46:55,314 --> 00:46:58,354
Speaker 5: the other day the Patriots couldn't stop it even then,

977
00:46:58,634 --> 00:47:00,274
Speaker 5: Like you get down inside the five yard and the

978
00:47:00,274 --> 00:47:03,194
Speaker 5: Patriots stopped it even after giving up seventeen straight runs.

979
00:47:03,234 --> 00:47:05,993
Speaker 5: That's it's generally really hard to do that.

980
00:47:06,873 --> 00:47:10,914
Speaker 4: Devin and Belleville, Canada, Rit sin Uh, do you guys

981
00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:13,834
Speaker 4: think we're gonna see the trend of Booty coming down

982
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:16,954
Speaker 4: with a big catch continue. I believe it's three straight

983
00:47:16,994 --> 00:47:18,993
Speaker 4: weeks he's come down with a fairly big play And

984
00:47:19,034 --> 00:47:21,354
Speaker 4: wanted to know if you guys think that's just because

985
00:47:21,354 --> 00:47:23,794
Speaker 4: there are no bodies a wide receiver or could he

986
00:47:23,913 --> 00:47:26,473
Speaker 4: be someone that could be a vibe option in the

987
00:47:26,514 --> 00:47:28,954
Speaker 4: past game, maybe a number three or four wide receiver.

988
00:47:29,433 --> 00:47:31,393
Speaker 4: His first few games last year, I thought he made

989
00:47:31,473 --> 00:47:34,234
Speaker 4: some nice plays, but seemed to have issues getting both

990
00:47:34,234 --> 00:47:37,314
Speaker 4: feet down, similar to Poke, and I ended up losing

991
00:47:37,594 --> 00:47:39,234
Speaker 4: and ended up losing his playing time.

992
00:47:40,114 --> 00:47:41,953
Speaker 6: I just, I mean, I'm fine with a couple of

993
00:47:41,994 --> 00:47:43,433
Speaker 6: big plays here and there. I just I just want

994
00:47:43,514 --> 00:47:45,593
Speaker 6: a little more consistency out of him and find him

995
00:47:45,634 --> 00:47:47,553
Speaker 6: a little bit more on the intermediate routes. You know,

996
00:47:47,594 --> 00:47:50,953
Speaker 6: It's just it's nice to have Drake hit him on

997
00:47:50,994 --> 00:47:53,314
Speaker 6: a bomb once a game, but you're hoping it could

998
00:47:53,314 --> 00:47:56,033
Speaker 6: be more consistent. I mean, you give credit to Booty though,

999
00:47:56,034 --> 00:47:58,234
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought he was kind of an afterthought

1000
00:47:58,234 --> 00:48:01,473
Speaker 6: this summer, but everybody's crediting him with how much hard

1001
00:48:01,473 --> 00:48:03,393
Speaker 6: work he's put in. And you know, other than Douglas,

1002
00:48:03,393 --> 00:48:05,953
Speaker 6: he's the only real receiver right now who has really

1003
00:48:05,994 --> 00:48:09,194
Speaker 6: flashed and that's something they're desperate for. So if he

1004
00:48:09,234 --> 00:48:11,033
Speaker 6: continues to earn the trust and he can develop more,

1005
00:48:11,074 --> 00:48:11,913
Speaker 6: I think I think it's great.

1006
00:48:11,913 --> 00:48:12,194
Speaker 5: I don't.

1007
00:48:12,194 --> 00:48:13,714
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just I still am not to.

1008
00:48:13,674 --> 00:48:15,554
Speaker 5: Me is the bigger thing with Booty is what you said,

1009
00:48:15,554 --> 00:48:17,794
Speaker 5: like Van Pelt, this is twice in about three or

1010
00:48:17,834 --> 00:48:20,834
Speaker 5: four weeks that he talked about how out of know

1011
00:48:20,873 --> 00:48:23,354
Speaker 5: where he came because he wasn't doing anything. Yeah, and

1012
00:48:23,473 --> 00:48:27,154
Speaker 5: he changed, and Van Pelt said he changed his practice habits,

1013
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:30,274
Speaker 5: his work habits. So this was a Booty problem, not

1014
00:48:30,314 --> 00:48:34,194
Speaker 5: a Patriots problem last year. Yeah, you obviously wasn't doing

1015
00:48:34,234 --> 00:48:35,594
Speaker 5: what he needed to do, and he wasn't doing what

1016
00:48:35,634 --> 00:48:38,114
Speaker 5: he needed to do this summer, this spring and summer.

1017
00:48:38,154 --> 00:48:40,714
Speaker 5: So when Mike says I thought he was an afterthought,

1018
00:48:41,034 --> 00:48:42,154
Speaker 5: I don't think Mike was wrong.

1019
00:48:42,274 --> 00:48:45,314
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's from his from Booty's comments, he changed.

1020
00:48:45,393 --> 00:48:47,834
Speaker 4: I read into it that he was kind of sulking

1021
00:48:48,194 --> 00:48:51,393
Speaker 4: last year, like he got kind of pushed to the

1022
00:48:51,473 --> 00:48:54,434
Speaker 4: side and then was sulking it didn't instead of taking

1023
00:48:54,433 --> 00:48:56,874
Speaker 4: that and working harder to get back on the field

1024
00:48:56,913 --> 00:48:57,433
Speaker 4: to get more.

1025
00:48:57,794 --> 00:49:00,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm more concerned about the way he was thought

1026
00:49:00,514 --> 00:49:03,873
Speaker 5: of this year, this spring and summer, and all of

1027
00:49:03,913 --> 00:49:06,274
Speaker 5: a sudden they said there was a change in him

1028
00:49:06,634 --> 00:49:10,274
Speaker 5: where he was working harder, and he was studying more

1029
00:49:10,354 --> 00:49:10,873
Speaker 5: and was.

1030
00:49:11,274 --> 00:49:14,673
Speaker 6: Sharp answers for everything in the film room.

1031
00:49:14,754 --> 00:49:17,474
Speaker 5: I think he earned his playing time. Maybe it just clicked.

1032
00:49:17,554 --> 00:49:22,433
Speaker 5: I yes, yeah, Now to Mike's point, it's clicked, like

1033
00:49:23,194 --> 00:49:26,034
Speaker 5: I don't think that it's clicking to like two catches

1034
00:49:26,074 --> 00:49:28,674
Speaker 5: a game like that's not that's not enough.

1035
00:49:28,953 --> 00:49:31,194
Speaker 6: No, And that's why I still I think I revert

1036
00:49:31,234 --> 00:49:33,154
Speaker 6: back to what my general impression of him has been

1037
00:49:33,234 --> 00:49:36,674
Speaker 6: of it's nice, but I'm I'll be surprised if he

1038
00:49:36,873 --> 00:49:39,474
Speaker 6: continues to kind of do this and becomes a frequent

1039
00:49:39,554 --> 00:49:42,433
Speaker 6: catch guy on the offense. You know, I just be more.

1040
00:49:42,473 --> 00:49:44,634
Speaker 5: I just look like a guy who at least can

1041
00:49:44,674 --> 00:49:47,314
Speaker 5: win a one on one, Like he beats Man. You know,

1042
00:49:47,473 --> 00:49:49,754
Speaker 5: in both both of those big plays the last two weeks,

1043
00:49:49,754 --> 00:49:51,393
Speaker 5: he's beaten man coverage and they don't have a lot

1044
00:49:51,433 --> 00:49:51,953
Speaker 5: of those guys.

1045
00:49:51,994 --> 00:49:59,834
Speaker 4: Yeah. Brandon, Brandon and Las Vegas via Lexington Mass first off,

1046
00:49:59,873 --> 00:50:01,913
Speaker 4: wanted to say that I've been very impressed with how

1047
00:50:01,953 --> 00:50:04,274
Speaker 4: Fred has handled the changing of both the email and

1048
00:50:04,354 --> 00:50:07,674
Speaker 4: houtline names. Besides a couple slips up, it's been a

1049
00:50:07,674 --> 00:50:11,794
Speaker 4: seamless transition. My question is, how do you think Bill's

1050
00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:14,594
Speaker 4: comments about the Patriots now that he's in the media

1051
00:50:14,634 --> 00:50:17,354
Speaker 4: will impact his ability to get a job next offseason.

1052
00:50:17,834 --> 00:50:20,473
Speaker 4: I don't think teams will look kindly on how he's

1053
00:50:20,473 --> 00:50:23,513
Speaker 4: handled being rejected, seeing as he couldn't get a job

1054
00:50:23,594 --> 00:50:26,953
Speaker 4: this passed offseason. I can't imagine his conduct as a

1055
00:50:27,034 --> 00:50:30,393
Speaker 4: part of the media contingent will help him in this

1056
00:50:30,514 --> 00:50:31,394
Speaker 4: coming off season.

1057
00:50:31,873 --> 00:50:33,993
Speaker 5: I think this is a great question. What do you

1058
00:50:33,994 --> 00:50:35,314
Speaker 5: guys think. I'm curious what you.

1059
00:50:35,873 --> 00:50:37,834
Speaker 6: I don't think it'll affect any I don't think it

1060
00:50:37,834 --> 00:50:39,794
Speaker 6: will affect anything either. I think you if you're gonna

1061
00:50:39,794 --> 00:50:42,714
Speaker 6: sign up for Bill Belichick, you're gonna get well. I

1062
00:50:42,714 --> 00:50:44,553
Speaker 6: think you're already aware. If you're gonna sign up for

1063
00:50:44,554 --> 00:50:47,033
Speaker 6: that experience, you're gonna get some things you probably don't like.

1064
00:50:47,114 --> 00:50:48,953
Speaker 6: And this may this might reflect on some of those

1065
00:50:48,953 --> 00:50:51,473
Speaker 6: things team might not like. But I just think if

1066
00:50:51,473 --> 00:50:54,794
Speaker 6: you're gonna make that move, it's because you want Bill Belichick, good, bad,

1067
00:50:55,034 --> 00:50:57,553
Speaker 6: ugly everything that comes with him to kind of change

1068
00:50:57,554 --> 00:50:58,873
Speaker 6: the narrative around your team.

1069
00:50:58,754 --> 00:51:01,393
Speaker 5: So you're okay that he coaches your team for two

1070
00:51:01,433 --> 00:51:03,154
Speaker 5: years and then on the third year, when he's no

1071
00:51:03,194 --> 00:51:06,433
Speaker 5: longer coaching you, he's just gonna destroy you. Like if

1072
00:51:06,473 --> 00:51:10,114
Speaker 5: I were Jerry Jones, I wouldn't even contemplate hiring him

1073
00:51:10,314 --> 00:51:13,073
Speaker 5: because you know all the skeletons And I heard, you know,

1074
00:51:13,074 --> 00:51:15,874
Speaker 5: you talk about my shows. I heard Fred talking about

1075
00:51:15,913 --> 00:51:20,593
Speaker 5: this the other day, Fred Toucher, And if I were

1076
00:51:20,754 --> 00:51:23,394
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones, well, the skeletons he probably has in his closet.

1077
00:51:23,433 --> 00:51:26,473
Speaker 5: You want Bill Belichick on his seventeen platforms talking about

1078
00:51:26,514 --> 00:51:27,194
Speaker 5: you in two years.

1079
00:51:27,354 --> 00:51:29,794
Speaker 4: You know the way these teams think though, well, we

1080
00:51:29,873 --> 00:51:31,953
Speaker 4: won't have that type of breakup with them. You know

1081
00:51:31,994 --> 00:51:34,274
Speaker 4: they all think that way. That's crazy, I know, but

1082
00:51:35,194 --> 00:51:38,033
Speaker 4: I don't think. I think more so like.

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00:51:38,154 --> 00:51:39,473
Speaker 5: You think that what do you think would be a

1084
00:51:39,514 --> 00:51:42,754
Speaker 5: worst breakup? Twenty five years of dominance and then your

1085
00:51:42,834 --> 00:51:45,314
Speaker 5: part ways or two years and it didn't work in

1086
00:51:45,314 --> 00:51:45,913
Speaker 5: your part ways?

1087
00:51:45,994 --> 00:51:48,794
Speaker 4: I know, but I think that more so, what if

1088
00:51:48,834 --> 00:51:52,433
Speaker 4: anything hurts him, it'll be that people are afraid that

1089
00:51:52,473 --> 00:51:54,913
Speaker 4: if we bring him in, it's going to fire everybody,

1090
00:51:55,393 --> 00:51:58,794
Speaker 4: you know, like the that's from what it's reported that's

1091
00:51:58,794 --> 00:52:00,993
Speaker 4: what kept them from being the Falcons head coach.

1092
00:52:01,074 --> 00:52:03,714
Speaker 5: I mean, that could happen. You know, that could happen.

1093
00:52:03,794 --> 00:52:07,074
Speaker 5: But I was really taken aback and I remained surprised

1094
00:52:07,154 --> 00:52:09,473
Speaker 5: by it that there was just no real interest in him.

1095
00:52:10,354 --> 00:52:14,913
Speaker 5: And I just wonder, you know, I wonder how much

1096
00:52:14,953 --> 00:52:15,913
Speaker 5: interest there is in him.

1097
00:52:16,034 --> 00:52:18,314
Speaker 6: I wonder too. I mean, and I like, I just

1098
00:52:18,354 --> 00:52:20,834
Speaker 6: think before he got on all these TV shows, if

1099
00:52:20,834 --> 00:52:22,754
Speaker 6: you listen to what we're said on the way out here,

1100
00:52:22,834 --> 00:52:25,154
Speaker 6: like you knew it wasn't going great. You knew that

1101
00:52:25,274 --> 00:52:27,074
Speaker 6: it was a struggle to kind of keep this thing together.

1102
00:52:27,114 --> 00:52:29,274
Speaker 6: You knew he's tough to deal with, that he wants

1103
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Speaker 6: to run things the way that he's going to do it.

1104
00:52:31,074 --> 00:52:33,393
Speaker 6: And I mean, and even you know, I knew back

1105
00:52:33,393 --> 00:52:35,873
Speaker 6: in nine when I watched that that documentary they did

1106
00:52:35,873 --> 00:52:38,154
Speaker 6: where it's like, man, this is uncomfortable watching him talk

1107
00:52:38,194 --> 00:52:40,674
Speaker 6: to the owner, Like I like, this is weird, Like

1108
00:52:40,873 --> 00:52:42,433
Speaker 6: this is not what I expected. That was the first

1109
00:52:42,433 --> 00:52:44,873
Speaker 6: time I'd ever seen some of those interactions highlighted. So

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Speaker 6: I just I just think these guys are greedy. He's

1111
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Speaker 6: a name, and you're a great attentive, attentive that was

1112
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Speaker 6: the word that comes to mind. But these guys, these

1113
00:52:53,514 --> 00:52:56,033
Speaker 6: owners are all they're they're greedy. They they don't care.

1114
00:52:56,114 --> 00:52:59,154
Speaker 6: They think they can deal with the bad stuff. And

1115
00:52:59,194 --> 00:53:01,513
Speaker 6: I won't be that bad. And everyone's going to be talking.

1116
00:53:01,754 --> 00:53:04,234
Speaker 6: We've got the greatest coach of all the time, and

1117
00:53:04,234 --> 00:53:06,714
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1118
00:53:06,714 --> 00:53:09,354
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1119
00:53:09,393 --> 00:53:11,594
Speaker 6: there's gonna be some warts. But you know they probably

1120
00:53:11,634 --> 00:53:14,034
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1121
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1122
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1123
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1124
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Speaker 6: That was a big problem. You know, they'll convince themselves

1125
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Speaker 20: Morning morning, you know, Like I always tell you guys,

1157
00:55:05,634 --> 00:55:08,034
Speaker 20: I always take this opportunity to speak with you guys,

1158
00:55:08,074 --> 00:55:11,474
Speaker 20: and really with the understanding that I'm talking to the players,

1159
00:55:11,473 --> 00:55:13,634
Speaker 20: all right, talking to the players. Obviously there are things

1160
00:55:13,634 --> 00:55:16,114
Speaker 20: where I'm talking to the fans as well, But you know,

1161
00:55:16,194 --> 00:55:18,034
Speaker 20: the message for those guys, like, it's all about the

1162
00:55:18,114 --> 00:55:19,274
Speaker 20: Jets and we're moving forward.

1163
00:55:19,433 --> 00:55:19,594
Speaker 5: You know.

1164
00:55:19,594 --> 00:55:21,433
Speaker 20: Obviously there's a lot of noise out there, and I say,

1165
00:55:22,154 --> 00:55:24,314
Speaker 20: you know, we are what our record is, and we

1166
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:27,114
Speaker 20: have to get better, and that ultimately is my responsibility.

1167
00:55:27,554 --> 00:55:29,794
Speaker 20: And look, I take all the blame. It's fine, and

1168
00:55:31,433 --> 00:55:32,993
Speaker 20: it's moving on to the Jets.

1169
00:55:33,873 --> 00:55:36,393
Speaker 21: That said, your message to the guys, what kind of

1170
00:55:36,433 --> 00:55:39,274
Speaker 21: responsibility do you feel you need to take this week

1171
00:55:39,674 --> 00:55:41,473
Speaker 21: with this team because of where they're at and all

1172
00:55:41,473 --> 00:55:42,434
Speaker 21: this noises kind.

1173
00:55:42,274 --> 00:55:44,393
Speaker 20: Of around the world, just continue. It uses as an

1174
00:55:44,393 --> 00:55:46,553
Speaker 20: opportunity to get closer as a unit. You know, it's

1175
00:55:46,594 --> 00:55:48,114
Speaker 20: not the first time that any of those men in

1176
00:55:48,114 --> 00:55:50,953
Speaker 20: there have had to deal with diversity, myself included. It's

1177
00:55:50,994 --> 00:55:53,074
Speaker 20: the time for us to get closer. While you know,

1178
00:55:53,154 --> 00:55:55,553
Speaker 20: everything around you gets louder and hopefully we go out

1179
00:55:55,594 --> 00:55:59,553
Speaker 20: there and get a victory.

1180
00:56:01,074 --> 00:56:02,873
Speaker 11: Is it harder for you to talk to your team

1181
00:56:02,953 --> 00:56:05,553
Speaker 11: now than it was started a season or after the

1182
00:56:05,554 --> 00:56:06,154
Speaker 11: Bengals game?

1183
00:56:06,393 --> 00:56:06,794
Speaker 4: Not at all.

1184
00:56:06,834 --> 00:56:08,714
Speaker 20: And I said, look, during a time of piece, I

1185
00:56:08,714 --> 00:56:10,674
Speaker 20: always tell those guys like, remember what we say on

1186
00:56:10,754 --> 00:56:13,714
Speaker 20: day one when we get to day one hundred, and

1187
00:56:13,834 --> 00:56:17,554
Speaker 20: you know, I think consistency, especially leadership role, is definitely important.

1188
00:56:17,873 --> 00:56:20,194
Speaker 20: And for me, you know, we get to Wednesday at

1189
00:56:20,194 --> 00:56:22,913
Speaker 20: this point in time, We've always changed the page, win loser, draw,

1190
00:56:23,314 --> 00:56:25,834
Speaker 20: and that's always been my mindset, and that's my the thing.

1191
00:56:26,393 --> 00:56:27,433
Speaker 5: Coach Jackson, who's.

1192
00:56:27,194 --> 00:56:28,913
Speaker 22: Always been a vote leader on this team, both as

1193
00:56:28,913 --> 00:56:31,234
Speaker 22: a player and as a coach. For broadcast, seems like

1194
00:56:31,314 --> 00:56:33,834
Speaker 22: really more earthly standing on the sidelines. Is there any

1195
00:56:33,834 --> 00:56:35,714
Speaker 22: thought to me like engaging more with the players. I

1196
00:56:35,754 --> 00:56:37,873
Speaker 22: know everyone's got different styles, but in two of your.

1197
00:56:37,834 --> 00:56:39,913
Speaker 20: Approach, I do engage with the players, are engaged with

1198
00:56:39,913 --> 00:56:41,314
Speaker 20: the defense. And I would say I also have a

1199
00:56:41,314 --> 00:56:44,234
Speaker 20: headset where I'm flipping through channels talking to the coordinators.

1200
00:56:44,473 --> 00:56:46,194
Speaker 20: There have been times where I brought those guys up,

1201
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:48,634
Speaker 20: and there have been times where I've let the coordinators

1202
00:56:48,714 --> 00:56:50,913
Speaker 20: or position coach do their thing, even though we've talked

1203
00:56:50,913 --> 00:56:51,834
Speaker 20: about it on the headset.

1204
00:56:51,913 --> 00:56:53,474
Speaker 4: So is there any.

1205
00:56:53,354 --> 00:56:55,873
Speaker 5: Consideration when you're taking more ownership of the defense?

1206
00:56:56,554 --> 00:56:59,513
Speaker 20: DeMarcus is our defensive coordinator. Look, I have ownership of

1207
00:56:59,554 --> 00:57:01,714
Speaker 20: the defense, the offense, and special teams. That's how I

1208
00:57:01,714 --> 00:57:03,513
Speaker 20: look at it. You know those guys are coordinators. But

1209
00:57:03,554 --> 00:57:05,993
Speaker 20: once again, ultimately it's it falls on me.

1210
00:57:06,473 --> 00:57:09,634
Speaker 5: Did you say anything more to the guys.

1211
00:57:09,034 --> 00:57:10,953
Speaker 2: In light of your comments on Sunday that they were

1212
00:57:10,953 --> 00:57:11,514
Speaker 2: playing software?

1213
00:57:11,594 --> 00:57:11,994
Speaker 4: Now?

1214
00:57:11,794 --> 00:57:15,794
Speaker 20: No, Look, we're onto the Jets today. If we've had

1215
00:57:15,834 --> 00:57:18,314
Speaker 20: those conversations, I've always looked at that as an opportunity

1216
00:57:18,314 --> 00:57:19,673
Speaker 20: to go out there and prove everyone wrong.

1217
00:57:19,754 --> 00:57:20,113
Speaker 5: That's how.

1218
00:57:20,194 --> 00:57:22,794
Speaker 20: And once again, going back to a chip on your shoulder,

1219
00:57:23,194 --> 00:57:25,634
Speaker 20: We've all had those chips on our shoulders that have

1220
00:57:25,674 --> 00:57:28,154
Speaker 20: gotten us through and so this is no different. Obviously,

1221
00:57:28,394 --> 00:57:30,834
Speaker 20: once again we are struggling as a team. Our records,

1222
00:57:30,994 --> 00:57:32,674
Speaker 20: our record is what it is. It's about what we

1223
00:57:32,714 --> 00:57:33,434
Speaker 20: can do to get better.

1224
00:57:33,794 --> 00:57:37,154
Speaker 21: What is what's the player reaction been to those comments,

1225
00:57:37,154 --> 00:57:38,673
Speaker 21: whether it was after the game, right.

1226
00:57:38,594 --> 00:57:40,234
Speaker 17: Over a radio repus.

1227
00:57:41,074 --> 00:57:43,794
Speaker 20: Look, after the game, we're all disappointed. On a plane

1228
00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,914
Speaker 20: along plane ride home, we're all disappointed, and again it's

1229
00:57:46,914 --> 00:57:49,114
Speaker 20: about getting to Wednesday, so we can now focus on

1230
00:57:49,154 --> 00:57:51,634
Speaker 20: the next target. And uh, the guys have good juice

1231
00:57:51,834 --> 00:57:54,514
Speaker 20: expecting a good practice and we'll see how it looks

1232
00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:55,034
Speaker 20: on Sunday.

1233
00:57:55,354 --> 00:57:57,874
Speaker 21: Would you want a reaction out of them in some ways?

1234
00:57:57,914 --> 00:58:00,874
Speaker 5: Would you want them to get bad? For instance? Like

1235
00:58:01,634 --> 00:58:03,194
Speaker 5: are you trying to do that with so much?

1236
00:58:04,394 --> 00:58:07,394
Speaker 20: I'm just telling you, like when I when I talk

1237
00:58:07,474 --> 00:58:09,514
Speaker 20: after games, it's about what I see out there on

1238
00:58:09,514 --> 00:58:12,994
Speaker 20: the field at that current time. In saying that, like,

1239
00:58:13,034 --> 00:58:15,754
Speaker 20: the guys are preparing like it's any other week and

1240
00:58:15,834 --> 00:58:16,874
Speaker 20: we're talking about the Jets.

1241
00:58:17,794 --> 00:58:22,114
Speaker 23: Can't concerned along the message getting for the guys, whether

1242
00:58:22,154 --> 00:58:25,554
Speaker 23: it be setting in and starting to definitely sort of

1243
00:58:25,594 --> 00:58:29,954
Speaker 23: now stop the run five or twenty coach yards a game,

1244
00:58:30,514 --> 00:58:33,394
Speaker 23: seventy plus three plus.

1245
00:58:33,634 --> 00:58:36,754
Speaker 20: I'm always concerned about our team like that comes with

1246
00:58:36,794 --> 00:58:39,954
Speaker 20: the responsibility, responsibility of being the head coach. And I

1247
00:58:39,954 --> 00:58:41,674
Speaker 20: would say if we were sitting here at six and one,

1248
00:58:41,714 --> 00:58:44,794
Speaker 20: I still would be concerned with a lot of different aspects.

1249
00:58:44,794 --> 00:58:46,354
Speaker 20: So I look at it the same way.

1250
00:58:46,954 --> 00:58:49,714
Speaker 2: How different is this challenge Sunday now that they have Devonte.

1251
00:58:49,354 --> 00:58:52,394
Speaker 20: Atherton games, He's I mean Look, he's a good player, obviously,

1252
00:58:52,394 --> 00:58:54,754
Speaker 20: has a great rapport with the quarterback, and you know,

1253
00:58:54,874 --> 00:58:58,234
Speaker 20: another week and second week having him, I expect him

1254
00:58:58,274 --> 00:59:00,314
Speaker 20: to be more involved, even though he was involved the

1255
00:59:00,314 --> 00:59:01,834
Speaker 20: first guy going back.

1256
00:59:01,754 --> 00:59:03,914
Speaker 5: To playing soft comments. I know you said you're not

1257
00:59:03,954 --> 00:59:05,474
Speaker 5: coaching players to do that.

1258
00:59:05,554 --> 00:59:07,194
Speaker 21: What are you going to do this week to prevent

1259
00:59:07,274 --> 00:59:08,194
Speaker 21: that from happening again?

1260
00:59:08,274 --> 00:59:10,994
Speaker 20: Look, all the guys understand. You know, we've had our conversations.

1261
00:59:11,034 --> 00:59:12,594
Speaker 20: It's on to the Jets and that's what we're gonna do.

1262
00:59:12,634 --> 00:59:14,594
Speaker 20: We're just gonna go out there and play good football.

1263
00:59:14,714 --> 00:59:16,514
Speaker 20: That's what we need to do in all three phases

1264
00:59:16,514 --> 00:59:16,874
Speaker 20: of the game.

1265
00:59:17,074 --> 00:59:20,074
Speaker 22: Well that involved any kind of changes on the practice field.

1266
00:59:19,914 --> 00:59:20,474
Speaker 4: Or the meetings.

1267
00:59:20,634 --> 00:59:24,994
Speaker 20: We always try to We always tried new things during practice,

1268
00:59:25,394 --> 00:59:27,354
Speaker 20: even going back to training camp. You always look for

1269
00:59:27,394 --> 00:59:29,714
Speaker 20: things that get responses from your players. But we're going

1270
00:59:29,794 --> 00:59:31,514
Speaker 20: to go out there. Wednesday has always been a work

1271
00:59:31,594 --> 00:59:33,914
Speaker 20: day for us and I expect that to continue today.

1272
00:59:34,434 --> 00:59:35,394
Speaker 5: Part time stopping the run.

1273
00:59:35,394 --> 00:59:37,394
Speaker 4: As a defense, what have you seen on film?

1274
00:59:37,914 --> 00:59:40,514
Speaker 21: Does a defensive guy that you think that you can

1275
00:59:40,634 --> 00:59:41,834
Speaker 21: change to get it right?

1276
00:59:42,074 --> 00:59:43,714
Speaker 20: I would say like the last three weeks, you know,

1277
00:59:43,914 --> 00:59:46,034
Speaker 20: you look at one game, it's the three big runs,

1278
00:59:46,034 --> 00:59:48,034
Speaker 20: and then you look at this pass game and it's

1279
00:59:48,074 --> 00:59:50,434
Speaker 20: the four yard, five yard, four yard, six yard, just

1280
00:59:50,474 --> 00:59:55,194
Speaker 20: the continuous you know, like slow, slow bleed, and you

1281
00:59:55,234 --> 00:59:57,754
Speaker 20: know we have to do a better job like getting

1282
00:59:57,754 --> 00:59:59,954
Speaker 20: off blocks and going out there tackling the ball carrier.

1283
01:00:00,034 --> 01:00:03,274
Speaker 20: And again it's a huge opportunity this week to kind

1284
01:00:03,274 --> 01:00:04,354
Speaker 20: of get back on track.

1285
01:00:04,514 --> 01:00:06,794
Speaker 21: Those would you consider you guys still like a two

1286
01:00:06,874 --> 01:00:07,834
Speaker 21: gapping the defense?

1287
01:00:09,554 --> 01:00:11,834
Speaker 20: I would say like if you look over the last

1288
01:00:12,714 --> 01:00:14,114
Speaker 20: I mean, if you go back and watch film over

1289
01:00:14,154 --> 01:00:15,914
Speaker 20: the last five or ten years, there are times when

1290
01:00:15,954 --> 01:00:18,354
Speaker 20: you are in a two gap mentality. But there are

1291
01:00:18,394 --> 01:00:20,434
Speaker 20: also times when you're in a one gap mentality. And

1292
01:00:20,474 --> 01:00:21,754
Speaker 20: that goes back to the game planning.

1293
01:00:22,194 --> 01:00:25,394
Speaker 21: So the reason I'm just wondering if when they're or

1294
01:00:25,434 --> 01:00:27,874
Speaker 21: she's like, if you guys had this past week.

1295
01:00:27,794 --> 01:00:31,234
Speaker 5: Or weeks that I think last three gases.

1296
01:00:31,074 --> 01:00:33,394
Speaker 20: I've got to be five yards and round?

1297
01:00:34,514 --> 01:00:35,354
Speaker 4: Do you have to do?

1298
01:00:35,394 --> 01:00:37,554
Speaker 21: You have to think of what changing like philosophically, what

1299
01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:40,474
Speaker 21: you guys do in order to to adjust because you

1300
01:00:40,554 --> 01:00:44,154
Speaker 21: have that's personnel, when you're missing some players, does that

1301
01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:44,914
Speaker 21: change how you have.

1302
01:00:44,874 --> 01:00:45,474
Speaker 4: To handle things?

1303
01:00:45,714 --> 01:00:47,994
Speaker 20: Look the players that we have in that locker room

1304
01:00:48,074 --> 01:00:51,114
Speaker 20: right now are the players that are capable and have

1305
01:00:51,314 --> 01:00:54,434
Speaker 20: done throughout the season. Uh, done a good job against

1306
01:00:54,474 --> 01:00:56,794
Speaker 20: the run. And once again, it's about just on a

1307
01:00:56,874 --> 01:00:59,314
Speaker 20: down after down after down basis. I tell the players,

1308
01:00:59,354 --> 01:01:02,634
Speaker 20: no matter what, uh, special teams, offense or defense, Like

1309
01:01:02,634 --> 01:01:04,234
Speaker 20: I don't have a crystal ball, I don't know what

1310
01:01:04,314 --> 01:01:05,994
Speaker 20: play it's gonna be, but we just need to be

1311
01:01:06,514 --> 01:01:07,554
Speaker 20: sound on every play.

1312
01:01:08,354 --> 01:01:10,034
Speaker 5: Was he from the run defense in the run game?

1313
01:01:10,074 --> 01:01:12,594
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, maybe why they've been structs.

1314
01:01:12,874 --> 01:01:14,834
Speaker 20: Uh, there are different factors, you know. I wish I

1315
01:01:14,874 --> 01:01:16,514
Speaker 20: could get up here and just tell you it's one thing,

1316
01:01:17,074 --> 01:01:19,274
Speaker 20: it's not. I mean, we need to be a balanced offense.

1317
01:01:19,274 --> 01:01:21,474
Speaker 20: That's what we need to do. And uh here against

1318
01:01:21,474 --> 01:01:23,354
Speaker 20: the Jets, hopefully we get that balance that we need.

1319
01:01:24,474 --> 01:01:26,434
Speaker 5: You always you.

1320
01:01:26,994 --> 01:01:32,354
Speaker 23: Start talking, are you disappointed at all? Bill has becal.

1321
01:01:32,034 --> 01:01:35,394
Speaker 5: And has taken your flight some.

1322
01:01:35,434 --> 01:01:39,194
Speaker 20: Shots this process, Well, like I said, my main focus

1323
01:01:39,234 --> 01:01:41,794
Speaker 20: is the guys inside of this building, not only the players,

1324
01:01:41,834 --> 01:01:43,754
Speaker 20: but also the coaches and the rest of the staff.

1325
01:01:43,754 --> 01:01:46,474
Speaker 20: And look, as soon as we know turn this thing around,

1326
01:01:46,674 --> 01:01:50,114
Speaker 20: then we'll be Okay. It comes down to wins and

1327
01:01:50,154 --> 01:01:51,794
Speaker 20: losses like, that's what it comes down to, and that's

1328
01:01:51,794 --> 01:01:52,994
Speaker 20: what you're ultimately judged by.

1329
01:01:54,394 --> 01:01:54,954
Speaker 2: Also, in the.

1330
01:01:54,874 --> 01:01:57,034
Speaker 1: Growths to the noise, did you feel compelled to talk

1331
01:01:57,074 --> 01:01:58,834
Speaker 1: to the team about social media.

1332
01:01:58,594 --> 01:02:00,073
Speaker 15: Are making me change?

1333
01:02:00,314 --> 01:02:00,593
Speaker 4: You know?

1334
01:02:00,714 --> 01:02:03,194
Speaker 20: For me, it is what it is like. If you're

1335
01:02:03,194 --> 01:02:05,194
Speaker 20: winning games, there'll be noise if you're I mean, we've

1336
01:02:05,194 --> 01:02:07,674
Speaker 20: done this for a long time. It's very it's very cyclical.

1337
01:02:07,714 --> 01:02:09,994
Speaker 20: You know, sometimes narratives are already written. It's about just

1338
01:02:09,994 --> 01:02:12,394
Speaker 20: the different cast of characters. And what I would say is,

1339
01:02:12,754 --> 01:02:15,754
Speaker 20: you know, we know that the only people that can

1340
01:02:15,794 --> 01:02:17,994
Speaker 20: go out there and win football games. It's not the media.

1341
01:02:18,034 --> 01:02:20,434
Speaker 20: It's not it's not your mom calling you telling you

1342
01:02:20,474 --> 01:02:22,034
Speaker 20: to do X, Y and Z, or someone at the

1343
01:02:22,074 --> 01:02:23,994
Speaker 20: grocery store. No, it's about the guys that are in

1344
01:02:24,034 --> 01:02:26,794
Speaker 20: this building.

1345
01:02:26,914 --> 01:02:31,713
Speaker 5: Jo Concussion, he's in the protocol you think.

1346
01:02:33,754 --> 01:02:38,594
Speaker 21: Ja to produced in your opinions, he looked like a

1347
01:02:38,634 --> 01:02:40,714
Speaker 21: guy to you that just needs like a little time away.

1348
01:02:41,274 --> 01:02:45,394
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, as he goes to the protocol, Well

1349
01:02:45,474 --> 01:02:48,954
Speaker 20: we'll address it at that point. Thanks.

1350
01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:53,593
Speaker 5: And now, great moments in.

1351
01:02:55,794 --> 01:03:00,394
Speaker 4: History. One o'clock on CBS, The one and one Bears

1352
01:03:00,434 --> 01:03:02,554
Speaker 4: are at the oh and two cults.

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01:03:03,394 --> 01:03:08,434
Speaker 5: Uh ind by one? Oh tough one? Ah, what's that?

1354
01:03:08,514 --> 01:03:09,153
Speaker 6: What's that really?

1355
01:03:09,154 --> 01:03:09,354
Speaker 17: Though?

1356
01:03:09,394 --> 01:03:09,633
Speaker 5: Fred?

1357
01:03:10,994 --> 01:03:13,234
Speaker 4: Well, they're minus two then plus two.

1358
01:03:13,394 --> 01:03:15,634
Speaker 6: Well there you go, tells you all to know.

1359
01:03:15,674 --> 01:03:15,954
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1360
01:03:15,954 --> 01:03:18,514
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Cleveland at home. No indies plus one,

1361
01:03:18,634 --> 01:03:20,474
Speaker 4: they get three, so they're minus two.

1362
01:03:20,594 --> 01:03:24,794
Speaker 5: They're at home, so they they get three, right, right,

1363
01:03:25,634 --> 01:03:27,073
Speaker 5: So it's really like they're plus two.

1364
01:03:27,514 --> 01:03:28,394
Speaker 4: They should be four.

1365
01:03:28,514 --> 01:03:32,153
Speaker 5: So if you're getting three, that means they're favored by one.

1366
01:03:32,434 --> 01:03:33,314
Speaker 4: We're not getting it.

1367
01:03:33,554 --> 01:03:36,474
Speaker 5: They are get they're giving points. They're favored by one.

1368
01:03:36,834 --> 01:03:37,754
Speaker 4: They didn't get the three.

1369
01:03:40,474 --> 01:03:44,034
Speaker 5: If you could follow the nonsensical three points for the hotel,

1370
01:03:44,394 --> 01:03:45,914
Speaker 5: what would the spread be if it was neutral?

1371
01:03:45,994 --> 01:03:48,834
Speaker 2: Don't bring me into this any one four one.

1372
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Speaker 6: Plus three because you get three points at home, you

1373
01:03:51,234 --> 01:03:53,194
Speaker 6: would you're giving yeah, plus.

1374
01:03:52,914 --> 01:03:56,754
Speaker 5: Three plus two if it was zero. I thought you

1375
01:03:56,754 --> 01:03:59,794
Speaker 5: get three at go three at home. He says you

1376
01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:02,354
Speaker 5: get three. It's not it doesn't exist. But he insists

1377
01:04:02,354 --> 01:04:03,274
Speaker 5: that you get three at home.

1378
01:04:03,274 --> 01:04:03,794
Speaker 2: It's a rule.

1379
01:04:03,954 --> 01:04:07,554
Speaker 5: So they're favored by one. Doesn't three minus three zero,

1380
01:04:07,874 --> 01:04:09,354
Speaker 5: So that would be reminus sing three.

1381
01:04:09,474 --> 01:04:11,114
Speaker 2: You said it was zero, that would.

1382
01:04:10,914 --> 01:04:11,834
Speaker 5: Be you gotta hurry.

1383
01:04:11,914 --> 01:04:14,034
Speaker 4: We got you gotta hurry.

1384
01:04:14,154 --> 01:04:15,834
Speaker 5: That's another great moment.

1385
01:04:18,554 --> 01:04:20,914
Speaker 4: All right back here on Patriots Unfilled Today. Five to

1386
01:04:20,954 --> 01:04:24,274
Speaker 4: five pass five hundred is the TPX Outline podcast at

1387
01:04:24,274 --> 01:04:26,794
Speaker 4: patriots dot com is email address. A couple of shows ago,

1388
01:04:26,834 --> 01:04:29,394
Speaker 4: I think it was a week ago today, we had

1389
01:04:29,394 --> 01:04:31,034
Speaker 4: our conversation about hoodies.

1390
01:04:31,434 --> 01:04:33,314
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, is that yeah?

1391
01:04:33,394 --> 01:04:33,954
Speaker 5: I think you're right.

1392
01:04:34,154 --> 01:04:38,794
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Brian says, Okay, Fred about those hoodies. I

1393
01:04:38,834 --> 01:04:41,674
Speaker 4: have no less than forty in my closet, so in

1394
01:04:41,714 --> 01:04:43,954
Speaker 4: my own mind, I'm kind of an expert on the topic.

1395
01:04:44,354 --> 01:04:47,354
Speaker 4: So whether it be thick, thin, t shirty, or whatever,

1396
01:04:47,594 --> 01:04:50,554
Speaker 4: the key is, does it have a single pocket in

1397
01:04:50,634 --> 01:04:53,474
Speaker 4: the front. If the answer to that question is yes,

1398
01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:56,554
Speaker 4: it's all good. If no pocket, then the hoodie has

1399
01:04:56,634 --> 01:05:00,554
Speaker 4: to go. I have a not on those T shirt ones.

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01:05:00,594 --> 01:05:02,194
Speaker 4: You don't have a pocket in the front. I do

1401
01:05:02,314 --> 01:05:05,474
Speaker 4: have not two pockets a single pocket?

1402
01:05:05,474 --> 01:05:07,514
Speaker 5: Well, he said, If it has no pocket.

1403
01:05:07,514 --> 01:05:11,114
Speaker 4: He said, he said, does it have a single pocket

1404
01:05:11,234 --> 01:05:13,794
Speaker 4: in the front. If the answer to that question is yes,

1405
01:05:13,834 --> 01:05:16,754
Speaker 4: it's all good. If no pocket, then the hoodie.

1406
01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,834
Speaker 5: Has to I have two of them.

1407
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:25,514
Speaker 4: That's not good. Divided as for sleeveless.

1408
01:05:23,074 --> 01:05:25,794
Speaker 6: That they can't connect, can't connect cut through it.

1409
01:05:25,834 --> 01:05:28,914
Speaker 5: If he's not a single pocket, it's not a single pocket.

1410
01:05:29,274 --> 01:05:32,314
Speaker 4: As for sleeveless, I also have about ten of those,

1411
01:05:32,354 --> 01:05:34,634
Speaker 4: which I refer to as my summer hoodies.

1412
01:05:34,674 --> 01:05:36,193
Speaker 5: Great for start pump cover.

1413
01:05:36,594 --> 01:05:39,114
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gets into exercising and I'm not.

1414
01:05:39,074 --> 01:05:41,234
Speaker 5: Gonna t J has a lot of those. Yeah, it's

1415
01:05:41,274 --> 01:05:41,914
Speaker 5: my pump cover.

1416
01:05:43,194 --> 01:05:43,434
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1417
01:05:43,474 --> 01:05:48,354
Speaker 5: Like the sweat on hardo correct, Eric, TJ.

1418
01:05:48,554 --> 01:05:50,914
Speaker 6: Let me get to like mock turtleneck, you know, mock

1419
01:05:51,114 --> 01:05:53,354
Speaker 6: sweatshirts with like the you know it didn't have the hoodie,

1420
01:05:53,434 --> 01:05:56,154
Speaker 6: just had the the neck on it. You know, like

1421
01:05:56,194 --> 01:05:58,554
Speaker 6: a mock turtleneck with turtle. What do they call mock

1422
01:05:58,794 --> 01:05:59,474
Speaker 6: mock mocks?

1423
01:05:59,514 --> 01:06:02,194
Speaker 5: Well, we used to have mock turtlenecks. Yeah, those were

1424
01:06:02,754 --> 01:06:04,234
Speaker 5: like a nineties.

1425
01:06:04,354 --> 01:06:07,434
Speaker 6: Yeah, early I got made fun of a couple of

1426
01:06:07,474 --> 01:06:09,794
Speaker 6: times in college were wearing turtlenecks by girls. They did

1427
01:06:09,874 --> 01:06:10,914
Speaker 6: not I think one of the turtles.

1428
01:06:11,154 --> 01:06:13,994
Speaker 4: Like college, did you have a pipe to like.

1429
01:06:16,634 --> 01:06:18,354
Speaker 6: Just the turtle neck just to keep the neck warm.

1430
01:06:18,634 --> 01:06:19,874
Speaker 6: You know, it looks nice under a sweater.

1431
01:06:20,194 --> 01:06:23,394
Speaker 5: I never thought, never a big turtleneck guy. But go

1432
01:06:23,514 --> 01:06:24,794
Speaker 5: through the mock turtle neck phase.

1433
01:06:24,834 --> 01:06:27,394
Speaker 4: Though I think I might have.

1434
01:06:27,594 --> 01:06:29,674
Speaker 6: Changed chain on the outside.

1435
01:06:30,194 --> 01:06:33,794
Speaker 5: Ah. No, I was never a chain on the outside. Guy,

1436
01:06:34,314 --> 01:06:34,754
Speaker 5: You know that.

1437
01:06:34,874 --> 01:06:37,394
Speaker 1: I'm googling mocks just to see what they were, and

1438
01:06:37,434 --> 01:06:39,194
Speaker 1: the pictures have chains on the outside.

1439
01:06:39,274 --> 01:06:43,274
Speaker 5: I never ever wore a change outside, never, never, not once.

1440
01:06:44,714 --> 01:06:46,713
Speaker 5: And I used to wear a chain every day. Sure

1441
01:06:46,954 --> 01:06:49,113
Speaker 5: with the horn, No more with the horn. I don't

1442
01:06:49,114 --> 01:06:51,234
Speaker 5: have any no change change.

1443
01:06:52,114 --> 01:06:55,034
Speaker 4: Jacob and Illinois says, listening to Paul fight listeners over

1444
01:06:55,074 --> 01:06:59,153
Speaker 4: two point conversions maybe the funniest operating hazard I've had

1445
01:06:59,194 --> 01:07:02,234
Speaker 4: while driving my truck. I've got a statement for the team,

1446
01:07:02,314 --> 01:07:05,234
Speaker 4: and then two podcast bits. One, we all knew the

1447
01:07:05,234 --> 01:07:08,434
Speaker 4: team wasn't going to be great, so everyone acting like

1448
01:07:08,474 --> 01:07:11,994
Speaker 4: we're beyond hope and help just seems like childish whining

1449
01:07:12,034 --> 01:07:16,154
Speaker 4: from spoil fans. Like interstate road construction, the ride may

1450
01:07:16,194 --> 01:07:18,954
Speaker 4: get a lot rougher before you see smooth and open roads.

1451
01:07:19,034 --> 01:07:23,754
Speaker 4: Be patient, it'll come. Two. I'm getting aggravated that Paul

1452
01:07:23,834 --> 01:07:26,434
Speaker 4: can't get a new car when you have the intro

1453
01:07:26,594 --> 01:07:29,874
Speaker 4: read for your friends at buy Atoyota dot com. What's

1454
01:07:29,874 --> 01:07:31,874
Speaker 4: it gonna take for them to help a guy out

1455
01:07:32,194 --> 01:07:34,554
Speaker 4: get him a nice four runner? So he and Mike

1456
01:07:34,594 --> 01:07:37,394
Speaker 4: could go off roading into the beach to look for Jaws.

1457
01:07:37,794 --> 01:07:39,834
Speaker 6: Here you go, Toyota, Jaws is in the ocean. You

1458
01:07:39,874 --> 01:07:43,954
Speaker 6: know your boat, you said, the beach looking out on

1459
01:07:43,994 --> 01:07:46,034
Speaker 6: the buy not did you have to learn the coastguard?

1460
01:07:46,474 --> 01:07:46,713
Speaker 4: No?

1461
01:07:48,034 --> 01:07:48,194
Speaker 5: You know.

1462
01:07:48,194 --> 01:07:50,554
Speaker 4: And if you want to see Toyota's best offers, including

1463
01:07:50,594 --> 01:07:52,634
Speaker 4: those not seen on TV, go to buy a Toyota

1464
01:07:52,754 --> 01:07:55,994
Speaker 4: dot com. It's the official website for deals from the

1465
01:07:55,994 --> 01:07:59,874
Speaker 4: official vehicle the New England Patriots. So let's go get

1466
01:07:59,914 --> 01:08:01,394
Speaker 4: Paul a new car.

1467
01:08:01,514 --> 01:08:04,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of my favorite emails ever.

1468
01:08:04,234 --> 01:08:05,434
Speaker 6: I might have to get Toyota.

1469
01:08:05,554 --> 01:08:07,514
Speaker 4: I'm talking to you if because I know that there's

1470
01:08:07,514 --> 01:08:10,794
Speaker 4: always somebody no matter what the subject that's related. So

1471
01:08:10,874 --> 01:08:14,954
Speaker 4: I know there's somebody from Toyota listening. If you got Paul, Paul,

1472
01:08:15,274 --> 01:08:19,234
Speaker 4: If you got Paul a new car, the promotion that

1473
01:08:19,274 --> 01:08:22,554
Speaker 4: you would get off of that exceeds anything you could

1474
01:08:22,594 --> 01:08:24,434
Speaker 4: buy on TV or radio.

1475
01:08:24,554 --> 01:08:27,034
Speaker 5: I would do read here shows.

1476
01:08:27,954 --> 01:08:33,234
Speaker 6: We do pictures of them advertising every day up to PVT.

1477
01:08:33,554 --> 01:08:34,674
Speaker 4: What model do you want?

1478
01:08:35,314 --> 01:08:38,194
Speaker 5: I could probably isn't CAMERI isn't that The camera is

1479
01:08:38,234 --> 01:08:40,834
Speaker 5: a good one of an accord?

1480
01:08:40,914 --> 01:08:42,634
Speaker 4: Right? Yes? I don't know.

1481
01:08:42,834 --> 01:08:47,074
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, anyone camera is a good good one.

1482
01:08:47,234 --> 01:08:49,074
Speaker 6: Get the Ford Runner. Look on the Ford.

1483
01:08:49,274 --> 01:08:51,314
Speaker 5: I don't I don't need isn't that I don't need

1484
01:08:51,354 --> 01:08:52,914
Speaker 5: anything special. I don't need an.

1485
01:08:52,834 --> 01:08:56,274
Speaker 6: Suv or I just need space.

1486
01:08:56,754 --> 01:08:57,874
Speaker 5: Spread I don't need space.

1487
01:08:58,554 --> 01:09:01,714
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think one to want the Corolla.

1488
01:09:02,234 --> 01:09:06,514
Speaker 5: Is that camera is higher than isn't Camery bigger than Corolla?

1489
01:09:06,554 --> 01:09:07,634
Speaker 6: Is the low the low man.

1490
01:09:07,674 --> 01:09:11,034
Speaker 5: I think Corolla is like a Civic, I think, and

1491
01:09:11,074 --> 01:09:12,434
Speaker 5: a camera is like a cord.

1492
01:09:13,434 --> 01:09:16,234
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be a Honda anyway.

1493
01:09:16,554 --> 01:09:17,514
Speaker 4: Right, not used?

1494
01:09:17,874 --> 01:09:19,914
Speaker 5: Well, I could use a new one. I have a

1495
01:09:19,954 --> 01:09:22,074
Speaker 5: long commute, yeah, one hundred miles a day.

1496
01:09:22,354 --> 01:09:24,154
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got a hum. I got a hum in

1497
01:09:24,154 --> 01:09:25,714
Speaker 6: the back of my car that I don't know how

1498
01:09:25,714 --> 01:09:27,714
Speaker 6: they're gonna fix it, but it's driving me crazy.

1499
01:09:27,754 --> 01:09:29,874
Speaker 5: Sort to have a bad car that has a lot

1500
01:09:29,874 --> 01:09:30,234
Speaker 5: of miles.

1501
01:09:30,314 --> 01:09:33,554
Speaker 6: How many miles? Two hundred and fifty thousand, See that's

1502
01:09:33,554 --> 01:09:34,474
Speaker 6: an advertiser two.

1503
01:09:34,714 --> 01:09:36,474
Speaker 5: And forty nine. Yeah, I think right now.

1504
01:09:37,114 --> 01:09:40,394
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let the mixt Let the next Toyota journey

1505
01:09:40,434 --> 01:09:46,354
Speaker 4: begins in pasted inspection in three years one year, Come on, Toyota,

1506
01:09:46,474 --> 01:09:47,034
Speaker 4: step up.

1507
01:09:47,434 --> 01:09:48,914
Speaker 5: I don't know why you have to call that out

1508
01:09:48,914 --> 01:09:51,954
Speaker 5: to attention. Fred just told you we have a lot

1509
01:09:51,954 --> 01:09:53,834
Speaker 5: of people from a lot of different walks at the

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01:09:53,834 --> 01:09:55,714
Speaker 5: State Police. Now state listening.

1511
01:09:55,714 --> 01:09:57,994
Speaker 6: Who's gonna be I'm just gonna hang out on me.

1512
01:09:58,274 --> 01:10:01,394
Speaker 4: Finally, Jacob says, with next Thursday being Halloween, could we

1513
01:10:01,394 --> 01:10:04,954
Speaker 4: see a PU show with everyone in costume? I hear

1514
01:10:04,994 --> 01:10:08,474
Speaker 4: recreating Hooper's look isn't hard and Evan could break out

1515
01:10:08,474 --> 01:10:10,434
Speaker 4: in his tightest pants to be Ben Johnson.

1516
01:10:11,154 --> 01:10:12,274
Speaker 6: Nope, so that'd be sexy.

1517
01:10:12,634 --> 01:10:15,434
Speaker 5: U Micha will come in as like some I could do.

1518
01:10:15,434 --> 01:10:17,594
Speaker 6: Something mid eighties Patriots.

1519
01:10:17,634 --> 01:10:18,034
Speaker 4: I like that.

1520
01:10:18,234 --> 01:10:21,714
Speaker 5: Coach challenge accepted, Raymond Berry, don't come in as I've been.

1521
01:10:21,674 --> 01:10:23,034
Speaker 6: Trying to find a way to get my wig on

1522
01:10:23,034 --> 01:10:24,674
Speaker 6: this show. I'm gonna get that wig on this show.

1523
01:10:25,434 --> 01:10:26,034
Speaker 6: It's a great way.

1524
01:10:27,234 --> 01:10:29,594
Speaker 4: What's stopping you? Just bring it in and where fine?

1525
01:10:29,754 --> 01:10:31,834
Speaker 5: Speaking of Halloween, I got booed yesterday.

1526
01:10:32,514 --> 01:10:35,794
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, gave it away? Yeah.

1527
01:10:36,634 --> 01:10:39,354
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I didn't give it away. I

1528
01:10:40,034 --> 01:10:41,074
Speaker 5: plan on parts.

1529
01:10:41,194 --> 01:10:42,194
Speaker 4: So here's the funny thing.

1530
01:10:42,234 --> 01:10:43,434
Speaker 5: But I wanted everybody to shore.

1531
01:10:43,554 --> 01:10:45,994
Speaker 4: So what people you get booed, you get like a

1532
01:10:46,034 --> 01:10:48,354
Speaker 4: bucket of candy, and it says you got booed, and

1533
01:10:48,394 --> 01:10:50,994
Speaker 4: the idea is now you have to boost somebody else

1534
01:10:51,034 --> 01:10:52,354
Speaker 4: and get them a bucket of candy.

1535
01:10:53,074 --> 01:10:55,354
Speaker 5: So a couple of weeks stops here.

1536
01:10:55,474 --> 01:10:56,994
Speaker 4: No, but listen. A couple of weeks ago, I was

1537
01:10:56,994 --> 01:10:59,594
Speaker 4: cleaning out my office and I found these like stick

1538
01:10:59,634 --> 01:11:03,834
Speaker 4: on tattoos. So I left them on Autumn's desk, you know,

1539
01:11:04,114 --> 01:11:06,594
Speaker 4: one of our new video people. I figured out maybe

1540
01:11:06,594 --> 01:11:08,274
Speaker 4: she'll want it, so I left them on her desk.

1541
01:11:08,874 --> 01:11:12,594
Speaker 4: So yesterday I got booed and in the bucket were

1542
01:11:12,634 --> 01:11:13,474
Speaker 4: those tattoos?

1543
01:11:13,674 --> 01:11:14,034
Speaker 5: Nice?

1544
01:11:14,154 --> 01:11:15,954
Speaker 4: So I said to her, I go, yeah, I got booed.

1545
01:11:16,034 --> 01:11:17,954
Speaker 4: She's like, oh really, God, yeah, and you did it?

1546
01:11:18,354 --> 01:11:18,794
Speaker 5: How do you know?

1547
01:11:19,194 --> 01:11:21,474
Speaker 4: Because the tattoos that I left on your desk were

1548
01:11:21,514 --> 01:11:23,914
Speaker 4: in the bucket. She's like, oh man, I outed myself

1549
01:11:24,354 --> 01:11:25,154
Speaker 4: so that was funny.

1550
01:11:25,714 --> 01:11:30,314
Speaker 5: So I, uh, yeah, Sailor did it to me. Well, yeah,

1551
01:11:30,954 --> 01:11:33,914
Speaker 5: there's a picture of her, so I don't think she's

1552
01:11:33,954 --> 01:11:37,274
Speaker 5: trying to cover take credit. But I feel bad because

1553
01:11:37,314 --> 01:11:40,914
Speaker 5: now that the chain ends little mist I thought that

1554
01:11:41,034 --> 01:11:44,034
Speaker 5: maybe refuse to partake, well, refuses a strong word.

1555
01:11:44,194 --> 01:11:47,034
Speaker 4: I think I think it's probably he got very accurate

1556
01:11:47,034 --> 01:11:49,274
Speaker 4: in this case. I think you're slapping down the Di'angelo's

1557
01:11:49,314 --> 01:11:49,994
Speaker 4: sub right now.

1558
01:11:50,434 --> 01:11:53,434
Speaker 5: H No. I actually, as part of my my bucket,

1559
01:11:53,674 --> 01:11:56,434
Speaker 5: I got a jersey Mike's card, oh wow. But I

1560
01:11:56,474 --> 01:11:58,834
Speaker 5: gave it to camp because I thought he might be

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01:11:58,874 --> 01:12:00,154
Speaker 5: able to use it. The man of the p was

1562
01:12:00,234 --> 01:12:01,754
Speaker 5: very I am a man. I thought you were first,

1563
01:12:01,794 --> 01:12:02,514
Speaker 5: Like I got booed.

1564
01:12:02,514 --> 01:12:04,274
Speaker 6: You were gonna get mad? Like what you booing me?

1565
01:12:04,314 --> 01:12:05,874
Speaker 6: Why are you booing me? Like everyone you know?

1566
01:12:05,874 --> 01:12:06,794
Speaker 5: I wasn't. It wasn't.

1567
01:12:06,834 --> 01:12:07,474
Speaker 6: That was a good thing.

1568
01:12:07,474 --> 01:12:09,954
Speaker 5: It wasn't mad at all. You know. Like, there's a

1569
01:12:10,074 --> 01:12:12,274
Speaker 5: nice bucket of candy they put together, and I figured

1570
01:12:12,314 --> 01:12:13,274
Speaker 5: everybody can enjoy it.

1571
01:12:13,314 --> 01:12:14,514
Speaker 4: In the office a lot of pressure.

1572
01:12:14,754 --> 01:12:16,994
Speaker 5: So I put it in the bullpen, though, right so

1573
01:12:17,034 --> 01:12:19,234
Speaker 5: everybody can enjoy it. I'm getting mocked by Mike.

1574
01:12:20,914 --> 01:12:22,034
Speaker 6: You can't give me any of your candy.

1575
01:12:22,394 --> 01:12:24,354
Speaker 5: I I didn't get any of that candy. It's it's

1576
01:12:24,394 --> 01:12:25,113
Speaker 5: in the bullpen.

1577
01:12:25,674 --> 01:12:27,153
Speaker 4: Bullpend's not the radio studio.

1578
01:12:27,394 --> 01:12:28,514
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll bring it down.

1579
01:12:28,594 --> 01:12:30,994
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't mess with those white chocolate peanut buttercups.

1580
01:12:30,994 --> 01:12:32,114
Speaker 5: That's did you try one?

1581
01:12:32,354 --> 01:12:32,914
Speaker 6: I have tried.

1582
01:12:33,154 --> 01:12:36,834
Speaker 5: You don't white chocolate peanut butter. Try them. I will

1583
01:12:36,914 --> 01:12:39,074
Speaker 5: just say that, say it's exactly like the regular milk

1584
01:12:39,114 --> 01:12:40,674
Speaker 5: chocolate on peanut.

1585
01:12:40,434 --> 01:12:42,834
Speaker 4: Butter is overwhelming, correct, it overwhelms the chocolate.

1586
01:12:42,914 --> 01:12:49,114
Speaker 5: Are the still like one of the greatest.

1587
01:12:49,754 --> 01:12:49,914
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1588
01:12:49,954 --> 01:12:50,794
Speaker 6: I put it up as the.

1589
01:12:51,434 --> 01:12:54,194
Speaker 5: It's the capital t the best, the best.

1590
01:12:54,554 --> 01:12:54,754
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1591
01:12:54,794 --> 01:12:57,714
Speaker 4: And when you get to sleep, take simple. When you

1592
01:12:57,754 --> 01:12:59,994
Speaker 4: get the sleeve of three, that first one is always

1593
01:12:59,994 --> 01:13:01,514
Speaker 4: the best one, you know, it comes out.

1594
01:13:01,714 --> 01:13:03,834
Speaker 6: I like the specialty ones like in the pumpkins.

1595
01:13:03,834 --> 01:13:03,954
Speaker 5: Oh.

1596
01:13:03,994 --> 01:13:05,794
Speaker 6: I don't like any little thicker, little thicker.

1597
01:13:05,874 --> 01:13:07,634
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like any of that. Just give me

1598
01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:12,194
Speaker 4: the normal Reese's peanut butter cup. Fine, let's go to

1599
01:13:12,234 --> 01:13:18,114
Speaker 4: the TPX outline. Brian's and mass what's up, Brian, it's kind.

1600
01:13:17,954 --> 01:13:19,754
Speaker 6: Of vague, Brian, Brian Belichick.

1601
01:13:20,394 --> 01:13:24,314
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he's out Joe practice. Joe's in Delaware. What's up,

1602
01:13:24,394 --> 01:13:26,154
Speaker 4: Joe Biden?

1603
01:13:26,234 --> 01:13:27,634
Speaker 17: Thank guys, thanks for taking a call.

1604
01:13:28,954 --> 01:13:32,674
Speaker 24: I have a question if in March twenty twenty, instead

1605
01:13:32,674 --> 01:13:37,714
Speaker 24: of letting Brady go, Robert Kraft convinces Brady to re

1606
01:13:37,874 --> 01:13:41,274
Speaker 24: sign and let's Belichick go, do you think they that

1607
01:13:41,434 --> 01:13:44,594
Speaker 24: the Patriots could have won another Super Bowl and just

1608
01:13:44,634 --> 01:13:47,514
Speaker 24: for context, I'm sure Josh McDaniels would have been the

1609
01:13:47,514 --> 01:13:51,354
Speaker 24: head coach. There weren't a ton of other candidates available,

1610
01:13:52,234 --> 01:13:56,434
Speaker 24: Eric b Enemy and maybe Bill O'Brien, and then the

1611
01:13:56,474 --> 01:14:00,554
Speaker 24: free agent class had Amari Cooper. But instead of the

1612
01:14:00,634 --> 01:14:03,794
Speaker 24: trading our first round pick, we could have maybe drafted

1613
01:14:04,154 --> 01:14:06,874
Speaker 24: Brandon Aiyuk or Ti Higgainst And I'll take the call

1614
01:14:06,914 --> 01:14:07,274
Speaker 24: off here.

1615
01:14:07,394 --> 01:14:07,874
Speaker 17: Think cool?

1616
01:14:07,994 --> 01:14:08,754
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks?

1617
01:14:08,834 --> 01:14:12,874
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that puts a lot of different variables. I

1618
01:14:12,994 --> 01:14:14,954
Speaker 5: would need all of those kinds of moves to have

1619
01:14:14,954 --> 01:14:16,434
Speaker 5: been made if I would say that they would have

1620
01:14:16,434 --> 01:14:18,114
Speaker 5: won a Super Bowl, Yeah, because I don't think the

1621
01:14:18,154 --> 01:14:20,314
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen Patriots were anywhere close.

1622
01:14:20,474 --> 01:14:23,194
Speaker 6: No, with Tom Brady, Yeah, and trying to figure out

1623
01:14:23,194 --> 01:14:25,434
Speaker 6: how to bring Tom Brady back into that mix with

1624
01:14:25,994 --> 01:14:27,634
Speaker 6: I mean, how are you gonna find the weapons that

1625
01:14:27,754 --> 01:14:30,514
Speaker 6: year too? Like he's a rookie. I think twenty twenty,

1626
01:14:31,474 --> 01:14:33,154
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, I would never rule anything

1627
01:14:33,194 --> 01:14:34,474
Speaker 6: out with Tom Brady, But.

1628
01:14:35,154 --> 01:14:37,714
Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't even say he has no chance because

1629
01:14:37,794 --> 01:14:40,874
Speaker 5: we've seen him with average to below average talent.

1630
01:14:40,834 --> 01:14:42,714
Speaker 6: And you think that twenty twenty season two. I always

1631
01:14:42,754 --> 01:14:44,834
Speaker 6: thought he just kind of had a distinct advantage because

1632
01:14:45,634 --> 01:14:48,354
Speaker 6: like his team well I mean, I don't want to

1633
01:14:48,394 --> 01:14:50,874
Speaker 6: take too much credit away from him, but having an

1634
01:14:50,954 --> 01:14:54,434
Speaker 6: established quarterback and system and everything in that season when

1635
01:14:54,474 --> 01:14:57,114
Speaker 6: it all everything got turned upside down, and you know,

1636
01:14:57,194 --> 01:14:58,994
Speaker 6: having a guy that intense. I mean, can you imagine

1637
01:14:59,074 --> 01:15:01,034
Speaker 6: some of these teams now we're talking about it's hard

1638
01:15:01,034 --> 01:15:02,514
Speaker 6: for them to like maintain folks.

1639
01:15:02,354 --> 01:15:03,914
Speaker 5: Got in trouble in front of it, doing things that

1640
01:15:03,914 --> 01:15:06,314
Speaker 5: he wasn't supposed to do. Right in Tampa, have a meet.

1641
01:15:07,714 --> 01:15:10,594
Speaker 4: R M writes in your discussion last week to visualize

1642
01:15:10,634 --> 01:15:14,034
Speaker 4: what the regular callers look like based on their voices,

1643
01:15:14,074 --> 01:15:16,834
Speaker 4: reminded me of my impression of what the PU team

1644
01:15:16,874 --> 01:15:19,634
Speaker 4: looked like while only having listened to the podcast for

1645
01:15:19,674 --> 01:15:22,314
Speaker 4: three plus years. I have since seen the team on

1646
01:15:22,434 --> 01:15:27,074
Speaker 4: video and we'll share my thoughts. Oh Jesus, Paul looks older, crustier,

1647
01:15:27,154 --> 01:15:30,354
Speaker 4: and more pompous than what his voice sounds like. He

1648
01:15:30,474 --> 01:15:35,594
Speaker 4: is too pale and definitely needs son. Wow. Fred, with

1649
01:15:35,674 --> 01:15:38,994
Speaker 4: his amiable sounds and comments, looks similar to the impression

1650
01:15:39,274 --> 01:15:41,594
Speaker 4: of a father figure of a house full of rabid

1651
01:15:41,594 --> 01:15:44,794
Speaker 4: football fans. However, he does have a face for radio

1652
01:15:45,034 --> 01:15:50,674
Speaker 4: and not TV. Wow. Mike looks nothing like expected. With

1653
01:15:50,794 --> 01:15:53,394
Speaker 4: all the discussion of his Hollywood good looks, one would

1654
01:15:53,394 --> 01:15:56,234
Speaker 4: expect he is a Richard Gear lookalike, whereas he is

1655
01:15:56,314 --> 01:15:57,394
Speaker 4: much closer to Shemp.

1656
01:15:59,194 --> 01:16:01,794
Speaker 6: I appreciate the three reference. That's good, that's good.

1657
01:16:03,274 --> 01:16:05,754
Speaker 5: Well, you could call me pale, but Mike is wicked hands.

1658
01:16:05,794 --> 01:16:08,394
Speaker 4: Tite pants. Evan looks the part perfectly. He's the kid

1659
01:16:08,434 --> 01:16:10,914
Speaker 4: in class that sits in the front row, raises his

1660
01:16:10,954 --> 01:16:14,354
Speaker 4: hand for every question, and receive wedgies throughout. There was

1661
01:16:14,394 --> 01:16:19,073
Speaker 4: no surprise there. Alex and Tamara have lovely, sweet voices

1662
01:16:19,074 --> 01:16:22,274
Speaker 4: and both exceeded expectations. I'm not sure what the caller

1663
01:16:22,394 --> 01:16:25,154
Speaker 4: slash Texture a few months ago was thinking about when

1664
01:16:25,154 --> 01:16:27,714
Speaker 4: he said Alex's hair was not good. It might have

1665
01:16:27,754 --> 01:16:29,954
Speaker 4: been a bad day, but I think he needs his

1666
01:16:30,074 --> 01:16:32,634
Speaker 4: eyes examined. All in all, it would make sense to

1667
01:16:32,714 --> 01:16:35,874
Speaker 4: keep the cameras on the ladies and relegate the remainder

1668
01:16:35,914 --> 01:16:37,153
Speaker 4: of the staff to the closet.

1669
01:16:37,714 --> 01:16:41,674
Speaker 6: Wow, thank you for your email.

1670
01:16:42,954 --> 01:16:51,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see thord Or from Iceland. We have listeners

1671
01:16:51,994 --> 01:16:56,394
Speaker 4: from all over the world. Obviously longtime listener, first time

1672
01:16:56,434 --> 01:17:00,314
Speaker 4: electronic email sender was wondering if I it would be

1673
01:17:00,354 --> 01:17:04,514
Speaker 4: possible to get Mike's and Evans song somewhere so I

1674
01:17:04,514 --> 01:17:07,474
Speaker 4: can have them as my ring tone. I just threw

1675
01:17:07,554 --> 01:17:10,754
Speaker 4: up on myself. My wife and daughters always laugh when

1676
01:17:10,754 --> 01:17:13,194
Speaker 4: I'm listening to your shows and start to sing along

1677
01:17:13,434 --> 01:17:14,874
Speaker 4: with the songs. Have a great day.

1678
01:17:14,914 --> 01:17:15,554
Speaker 5: Well you can just.

1679
01:17:15,514 --> 01:17:19,314
Speaker 4: Record the You just download this show and recording yourself.

1680
01:17:21,794 --> 01:17:28,514
Speaker 6: Could email you one of those. It's catchy Ran by

1681
01:17:28,514 --> 01:17:28,754
Speaker 6: the way.

1682
01:17:28,794 --> 01:17:31,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get him in a second, Ray writes in

1683
01:17:32,034 --> 01:17:33,914
Speaker 4: I know we talk about Bill being hard to deal

1684
01:17:33,954 --> 01:17:36,514
Speaker 4: with back in the day, but hearing Julian Gronk and

1685
01:17:36,594 --> 01:17:39,834
Speaker 4: Billy O talk, it seemed that Tom was just as hard.

1686
01:17:39,994 --> 01:17:41,474
Speaker 4: Do you all agree Tom was still?

1687
01:17:43,474 --> 01:17:45,194
Speaker 6: I think that's some of the stuff that we talked

1688
01:17:45,234 --> 01:17:47,714
Speaker 6: about where you've heard Tom Brady talk about a couple

1689
01:17:47,754 --> 01:17:50,234
Speaker 6: of different times of you're not getting the ball like that,

1690
01:17:50,434 --> 01:17:51,554
Speaker 6: you like you would just be like if you don't

1691
01:17:51,594 --> 01:17:53,274
Speaker 6: do you're not getting the ball, I'm not throwing it.

1692
01:17:53,194 --> 01:17:55,394
Speaker 5: To Do you think that, Like do you think about

1693
01:17:55,394 --> 01:17:57,634
Speaker 5: that right now with like Jalen Polk a little bit? Yeah,

1694
01:17:57,674 --> 01:17:59,914
Speaker 5: but like I like Brady, that would be enough.

1695
01:18:00,234 --> 01:18:01,434
Speaker 6: No, and his career will be over.

1696
01:18:01,594 --> 01:18:04,954
Speaker 5: No, I don't know about, but this season would be over.

1697
01:18:05,434 --> 01:18:07,714
Speaker 6: Tough, tough, I mean even Jewels.

1698
01:18:07,754 --> 01:18:08,034
Speaker 5: You know that.

1699
01:18:08,154 --> 01:18:10,274
Speaker 6: There's a great Edlman clip of you know, they'd be

1700
01:18:10,354 --> 01:18:12,594
Speaker 6: running drills and it was looked against Aaron and Welker

1701
01:18:12,674 --> 01:18:14,594
Speaker 6: would get up and go first, and he would go

1702
01:18:14,634 --> 01:18:16,474
Speaker 6: through the drill and then Edelman was like, you know,

1703
01:18:16,594 --> 01:18:18,594
Speaker 6: I get up and I go through the d and

1704
01:18:18,634 --> 01:18:21,794
Speaker 6: Billy O does the impression. It's perfect of Tom. He like, Jules,

1705
01:18:22,274 --> 01:18:23,994
Speaker 6: didn't you see how West did it? And he's like,

1706
01:18:24,274 --> 01:18:28,234
Speaker 6: I'm running at the sea. Was kidding man, you know,

1707
01:18:28,354 --> 01:18:29,074
Speaker 6: but that's.

1708
01:18:28,874 --> 01:18:30,554
Speaker 5: That's how hard it was. Some of those clips I

1709
01:18:30,594 --> 01:18:35,314
Speaker 5: haven't I haven't watched those podcasts, but some of the

1710
01:18:35,354 --> 01:18:36,914
Speaker 5: clips like thatman's good at it.

1711
01:18:36,994 --> 01:18:39,154
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's pretty Bill Billy.

1712
01:18:40,514 --> 01:18:42,034
Speaker 5: Impersonations were pretty good.

1713
01:18:41,914 --> 01:18:45,074
Speaker 6: To talking about a Bill's feet smelling in meetings. That

1714
01:18:45,154 --> 01:18:45,714
Speaker 6: was another girl.

1715
01:18:46,394 --> 01:18:49,714
Speaker 4: But I guess they talked to Bill O'Brien just recently,

1716
01:18:49,714 --> 01:18:51,994
Speaker 4: maybe yesterday or a couple of days ago, and he

1717
01:18:52,034 --> 01:18:55,234
Speaker 4: said that last year was an absolute like it was

1718
01:18:55,514 --> 01:18:56,834
Speaker 4: like he most horrible. It was.

1719
01:18:56,874 --> 01:18:58,754
Speaker 6: It was a mess, like every time it's come up

1720
01:18:58,794 --> 01:18:59,154
Speaker 6: last year.

1721
01:18:59,714 --> 01:19:00,554
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course it.

1722
01:19:00,634 --> 01:19:04,514
Speaker 4: Was like we all knew that at some point Bill

1723
01:19:04,514 --> 01:19:07,794
Speaker 4: O'Brien was going to talk about last year's experience. I

1724
01:19:07,794 --> 01:19:10,073
Speaker 4: didn't know he had talked about it so recently.

1725
01:19:10,354 --> 01:19:14,994
Speaker 6: So every time everything he said, that's all I've heard

1726
01:19:15,074 --> 01:19:17,354
Speaker 6: is just like the little bits of just like it

1727
01:19:17,394 --> 01:19:19,034
Speaker 6: was kind of related to me, and people ask him

1728
01:19:19,074 --> 01:19:21,154
Speaker 6: questions and scrums about it and him just being like,

1729
01:19:21,194 --> 01:19:22,834
Speaker 6: I'm not we're not talking about it. It was a

1730
01:19:22,874 --> 01:19:25,074
Speaker 6: mess like that. He just kind of pleads the fifth

1731
01:19:25,674 --> 01:19:27,434
Speaker 6: the whole season, which I think is kind of interesting

1732
01:19:27,474 --> 01:19:29,394
Speaker 6: at this point, which might be nice to get like

1733
01:19:29,434 --> 01:19:31,514
Speaker 6: some of that perspective of you know, well, what was

1734
01:19:31,554 --> 01:19:33,474
Speaker 6: a mess. But you know, like now I want to know.

1735
01:19:34,274 --> 01:19:36,714
Speaker 5: My guess is the mess was that he wasn't really

1736
01:19:36,714 --> 01:19:39,634
Speaker 5: allowed to bring any of his own coaches with him. Yep.

1737
01:19:40,114 --> 01:19:42,634
Speaker 5: He was kind of saddled with an offensive line coach

1738
01:19:42,994 --> 01:19:47,074
Speaker 5: who ended up, you know, through unforeseen circumstances, not Adriana

1739
01:19:47,114 --> 01:19:49,834
Speaker 5: clemm wasn't able to finish the season or missed a

1740
01:19:49,834 --> 01:19:51,754
Speaker 5: big chunk of the season, and Billy Oh had to

1741
01:19:51,754 --> 01:19:52,874
Speaker 5: basically run the whole thing.

1742
01:19:53,274 --> 01:19:55,554
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had to do will long and I think

1743
01:19:55,594 --> 01:19:56,594
Speaker 6: that was that was a guy.

1744
01:19:57,314 --> 01:20:00,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a mess when you're an offensive coordinator

1745
01:20:00,834 --> 01:20:03,234
Speaker 5: and you're trying to do you know, everything without any

1746
01:20:03,274 --> 01:20:05,554
Speaker 5: of your guys. You're running every meeting.

1747
01:20:05,674 --> 01:20:07,714
Speaker 4: But you could see from his body language he'd be

1748
01:20:07,754 --> 01:20:09,634
Speaker 4: on the sideline. He'd be just shaking his head.

1749
01:20:09,754 --> 01:20:12,554
Speaker 5: Well, you know, and yeah do I you know, I

1750
01:20:12,674 --> 01:20:14,914
Speaker 5: like Billy. Oh, so maybe I give him a little

1751
01:20:14,914 --> 01:20:17,554
Speaker 5: bit more leeway. But it's not all that different than

1752
01:20:17,594 --> 01:20:19,954
Speaker 5: what Patricia had to deal with the previous year. Not

1753
01:20:19,994 --> 01:20:22,354
Speaker 5: only you're trying to make this guy an offensive coordinator,

1754
01:20:22,714 --> 01:20:25,714
Speaker 5: but he's the offensive line coach and he's saddled quote

1755
01:20:25,754 --> 01:20:29,514
Speaker 5: unquote with Joe Judge, who's got his fingers in every

1756
01:20:29,634 --> 01:20:35,194
Speaker 5: element as the quarterbacks guru. Like just the setup the

1757
01:20:35,274 --> 01:20:39,354
Speaker 5: design was not ideal the last two years before this one.

1758
01:20:39,754 --> 01:20:43,153
Speaker 4: Henry writes in I'm curious if anyone else thinks the Patriots'

1759
01:20:43,154 --> 01:20:48,114
Speaker 4: front office over estimated their desirability when trying to sign

1760
01:20:48,234 --> 01:20:51,634
Speaker 4: veterans this past offseason, And if so, would may starting

1761
01:20:51,674 --> 01:20:54,794
Speaker 4: and playing at a reasonable level be enough to sign

1762
01:20:54,834 --> 01:20:57,874
Speaker 4: some high end talent in the off season. Well, certainly

1763
01:20:58,474 --> 01:21:02,794
Speaker 4: they got slapped in the face, particularly with Ayuk. I mean,

1764
01:21:02,834 --> 01:21:05,634
Speaker 4: he did not want to come here. They the Patriots

1765
01:21:05,714 --> 01:21:10,634
Speaker 4: offered him more money US than Pittsburgh was offering, and

1766
01:21:10,714 --> 01:21:13,594
Speaker 4: certainly more than he ended up getting at San Francisco.

1767
01:21:13,954 --> 01:21:16,074
Speaker 4: He didn't want He didn't even want to talk about it.

1768
01:21:16,114 --> 01:21:21,354
Speaker 5: But now that was a good move.

1769
01:21:19,314 --> 01:21:21,114
Speaker 4: Or whether it was a good or bad move towards

1770
01:21:21,154 --> 01:21:23,474
Speaker 4: a so that would have happened too. But whether but

1771
01:21:23,554 --> 01:21:25,274
Speaker 4: whether or not he would have been good here, that

1772
01:21:25,434 --> 01:21:27,274
Speaker 4: beside the point. The point is he didn't want to

1773
01:21:27,314 --> 01:21:32,554
Speaker 4: come here, period, and you know Calvin Ridley didn't seem

1774
01:21:32,594 --> 01:21:34,314
Speaker 4: to be that crazy about it.

1775
01:21:34,194 --> 01:21:35,794
Speaker 5: Either, you know, did want to come here.

1776
01:21:35,874 --> 01:21:38,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's an it's a problem. It's a problem

1777
01:21:38,834 --> 01:21:39,794
Speaker 4: that they're going to have to do.

1778
01:21:39,954 --> 01:21:42,274
Speaker 5: It will still be a problem no matter what Drake

1779
01:21:42,394 --> 01:21:47,314
Speaker 5: May does. The difference is it's not an insurmountable problem.

1780
01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:48,834
Speaker 6: Right, you have.

1781
01:21:48,794 --> 01:21:51,034
Speaker 5: To pay your way out of it. Yeah, you know,

1782
01:21:51,074 --> 01:21:52,794
Speaker 5: you're going to have to pay a little bit more

1783
01:21:53,434 --> 01:21:58,154
Speaker 5: probably than an average team, unless you know, May is

1784
01:21:58,194 --> 01:22:00,714
Speaker 5: so good that they start winning games. Yeah, that changes it.

1785
01:22:00,754 --> 01:22:03,874
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like let's just say that May continues

1786
01:22:03,914 --> 01:22:07,754
Speaker 4: the progression and let's say Booty and Born pick one another,

1787
01:22:07,834 --> 01:22:11,554
Speaker 4: Pop Douglas have good seasons and you're a wide receiver

1788
01:22:11,634 --> 01:22:14,874
Speaker 4: on teams, Like if they can do well with that guy,

1789
01:22:15,154 --> 01:22:16,034
Speaker 4: I can light it up.

1790
01:22:16,034 --> 01:22:19,274
Speaker 5: But they have to win. Yeah, like they like Yeah,

1791
01:22:19,994 --> 01:22:23,274
Speaker 5: Mike always talks about the ninety three thing, like show

1792
01:22:23,434 --> 01:22:26,194
Speaker 5: something that there's something brewing light at the end of

1793
01:22:26,234 --> 01:22:29,794
Speaker 5: the time. We got so they have ten games left.

1794
01:22:29,834 --> 01:22:32,274
Speaker 5: Can they go five and five in the last ten

1795
01:22:32,914 --> 01:22:35,354
Speaker 5: and you know, and May's throwing for three hundred yards,

1796
01:22:35,554 --> 01:22:38,474
Speaker 5: you know, in seven of those ten games, and these

1797
01:22:38,474 --> 01:22:41,714
Speaker 5: guys look good. Yeah, maybe someone, you know, someone look

1798
01:22:41,754 --> 01:22:44,154
Speaker 5: at that and say, I can I can help that team?

1799
01:22:44,194 --> 01:22:46,634
Speaker 5: I can? I can They're on the way.

1800
01:22:46,514 --> 01:22:48,834
Speaker 6: Especially where he's chucking bombs downfield. I mean that's like

1801
01:22:48,954 --> 01:22:50,474
Speaker 6: just that in and of itself. I feel if I'm

1802
01:22:50,514 --> 01:22:52,114
Speaker 6: an receiver room like that guy can hit me. Man,

1803
01:22:52,234 --> 01:22:54,314
Speaker 6: I can get open downfield. I'm gonna make some big plays.

1804
01:22:54,314 --> 01:22:54,514
Speaker 6: You know.

1805
01:22:55,314 --> 01:22:59,354
Speaker 4: Brian's back. Brian from mass He's from the whole state. Vague,

1806
01:22:59,474 --> 01:23:01,714
Speaker 4: very vague is multiple locations.

1807
01:23:01,714 --> 01:23:04,074
Speaker 5: And you guys after you Brian, you're trying to keep

1808
01:23:04,074 --> 01:23:04,874
Speaker 5: a low profile.

1809
01:23:06,474 --> 01:23:09,394
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up her business?

1810
01:23:10,394 --> 01:23:11,074
Speaker 6: Doing good?

1811
01:23:11,154 --> 01:23:12,794
Speaker 5: Maybe? Okay, how are you.

1812
01:23:14,354 --> 01:23:14,834
Speaker 10: All right?

1813
01:23:16,234 --> 01:23:16,994
Speaker 5: Is that is that it?

1814
01:23:17,074 --> 01:23:17,114
Speaker 18: You?

1815
01:23:17,274 --> 01:23:17,794
Speaker 5: Just okay?

1816
01:23:18,194 --> 01:23:21,514
Speaker 4: All right, we'll move on. Courtney's in Houston. What's up Courtney?

1817
01:23:22,754 --> 01:23:25,034
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted

1818
01:23:24,994 --> 01:23:27,794
Speaker 17: to say, jump in here really quickly. Out weird call

1819
01:23:27,914 --> 01:23:31,554
Speaker 17: by the way, Brian, I just want to give you guys.

1820
01:23:31,794 --> 01:23:33,954
Speaker 17: I just want to take a second, Mike. I've never

1821
01:23:34,074 --> 01:23:36,354
Speaker 17: gotten the privilege of talking to you directly, so to me,

1822
01:23:36,674 --> 01:23:37,954
Speaker 17: this is a lot of cool at to get because

1823
01:23:37,954 --> 01:23:40,034
Speaker 17: I'm gonna ask you a defensive question, but I just

1824
01:23:40,034 --> 01:23:42,034
Speaker 17: wanted to take a second to give you, guys your flowers.

1825
01:23:42,074 --> 01:23:44,914
Speaker 17: You guys have been making me laugh all day, despite

1826
01:23:45,034 --> 01:23:47,634
Speaker 17: all of the stuff that's been going on with the

1827
01:23:47,634 --> 01:23:51,234
Speaker 17: Patriots and all the commocuous stuff that's going on. So

1828
01:23:51,394 --> 01:23:55,514
Speaker 17: just the laughter today, the joy, the recalls from being

1829
01:23:55,594 --> 01:23:58,234
Speaker 17: JB QB coach like, you guys are making this scene

1830
01:23:58,314 --> 01:24:00,594
Speaker 17: really lighthearted, and I promise you that that's worth a lot.

1831
01:24:00,714 --> 01:24:05,434
Speaker 17: So Mike, here's my question. Let's go past president future defensively.

1832
01:24:06,194 --> 01:24:10,114
Speaker 17: Do you think that there's something I'll gilmore that we

1833
01:24:10,194 --> 01:24:12,594
Speaker 17: could have gotten in all, you know, pre off season

1834
01:24:12,954 --> 01:24:14,954
Speaker 17: that could have helped the SFUS. I know, obviously we

1835
01:24:15,034 --> 01:24:18,314
Speaker 17: went very heavy on the draft offensively, which made sense.

1836
01:24:18,394 --> 01:24:20,154
Speaker 17: I'm say that right, Yeah, we went heavy on the

1837
01:24:20,194 --> 01:24:22,674
Speaker 17: draft offensively, but do you think there's something we could

1838
01:24:22,714 --> 01:24:24,994
Speaker 17: have did with the defense? Do you think there's something

1839
01:24:25,034 --> 01:24:27,074
Speaker 17: we can do with the trade deadline? And then do

1840
01:24:27,154 --> 01:24:31,074
Speaker 17: you see them going heavy free agency next year knowing

1841
01:24:31,074 --> 01:24:33,034
Speaker 17: that they're probably going to use that draft capital on

1842
01:24:33,074 --> 01:24:35,914
Speaker 17: the offensive staff a year. I'm the guy that came.

1843
01:24:36,194 --> 01:24:38,514
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's a good question, Courtney. And here here's

1844
01:24:38,554 --> 01:24:42,994
Speaker 4: the thing. The the answer is probably there was. But

1845
01:24:43,234 --> 01:24:44,794
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season, you didn't think it

1846
01:24:44,794 --> 01:24:47,234
Speaker 4: was going to be this bad, Like you didn't think

1847
01:24:47,234 --> 01:24:49,954
Speaker 4: that on defense, we have to really you know, look

1848
01:24:49,994 --> 01:24:52,314
Speaker 4: at So that's why they were going after wide receivers.

1849
01:24:52,354 --> 01:24:55,554
Speaker 4: That's why they brought in you know, chukes On, you know,

1850
01:24:55,674 --> 01:24:57,594
Speaker 4: so their focus was like how do we make this

1851
01:24:57,674 --> 01:25:00,314
Speaker 4: offense better? Had they known what was going to happen

1852
01:25:01,114 --> 01:25:04,234
Speaker 4: on defense, Yeah, there probably was things they could have done.

1853
01:25:04,314 --> 01:25:07,154
Speaker 4: Gilmore was a guy that was out there to chance. No,

1854
01:25:07,314 --> 01:25:10,034
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying there was there were guys out

1855
01:25:10,074 --> 01:25:11,594
Speaker 4: there that could have helped this defense.

1856
01:25:11,834 --> 01:25:13,954
Speaker 5: But like I think you have would have had the

1857
01:25:13,994 --> 01:25:16,994
Speaker 5: same problem that you had on offense trying to do that. Yeah,

1858
01:25:17,714 --> 01:25:21,674
Speaker 5: like you can sign Sioni Taki taki, But you're not

1859
01:25:21,714 --> 01:25:24,234
Speaker 5: going to sign Rokwan Smith, right, he ain't coming here

1860
01:25:24,394 --> 01:25:28,754
Speaker 5: right now. This was directed his question.

1861
01:25:28,794 --> 01:25:32,354
Speaker 4: But but I think that Courtney's point was there didn't

1862
01:25:32,394 --> 01:25:35,154
Speaker 4: seem to be that focus on the defense. And he's right,

1863
01:25:35,474 --> 01:25:37,834
Speaker 4: But I don't think they think thought they needed to.

1864
01:25:38,234 --> 01:25:40,754
Speaker 6: I think they I mean, I think they needed another edge.

1865
01:25:40,794 --> 01:25:42,434
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they could have used a young

1866
01:25:43,034 --> 01:25:45,194
Speaker 6: you know, third fourth round pick doesn't have to be

1867
01:25:45,234 --> 01:25:47,394
Speaker 6: the first couple of rounds. But that was the sweet

1868
01:25:47,394 --> 01:25:49,754
Speaker 6: spot I was looking at those guys last year. They

1869
01:25:49,754 --> 01:25:51,314
Speaker 6: could have done it in free agency too. I mean,

1870
01:25:51,354 --> 01:25:52,834
Speaker 6: I think we all saw the writing on the wall

1871
01:25:52,834 --> 01:25:54,874
Speaker 6: with Judon. We knew that that was going to come

1872
01:25:54,874 --> 01:25:57,194
Speaker 6: to some kind of contract in past. So you know,

1873
01:25:57,314 --> 01:25:58,914
Speaker 6: I said to Paul, I mean I kind of like

1874
01:25:58,914 --> 01:26:00,674
Speaker 6: Anthony Jennings. I think he's like, you know, a good

1875
01:26:00,754 --> 01:26:02,994
Speaker 6: role player. But you know, in a perfect world, I

1876
01:26:03,034 --> 01:26:06,274
Speaker 6: would have taken when I paid Jennings and Uce and

1877
01:26:06,314 --> 01:26:08,994
Speaker 6: maybe tried to put that into one player who is

1878
01:26:09,034 --> 01:26:11,274
Speaker 6: a combination of the two and playing you know, all

1879
01:26:11,314 --> 01:26:14,194
Speaker 6: three downs and somebody who you know continues to just

1880
01:26:14,274 --> 01:26:15,914
Speaker 6: kind of be a spot player and Jennings is a

1881
01:26:15,994 --> 01:26:17,834
Speaker 6: run stuffer, but their run defense things right now.

1882
01:26:17,874 --> 01:26:20,034
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of these guys you mentioned

1883
01:26:20,114 --> 01:26:23,674
Speaker 4: Jennings and I agree, they're all good players, but they're

1884
01:26:23,714 --> 01:26:28,034
Speaker 4: not the tier players and they're asked to be now.

1885
01:26:28,474 --> 01:26:30,994
Speaker 4: And that's the problem that they're being asked to be

1886
01:26:31,674 --> 01:26:37,314
Speaker 4: impact playmakers and they're support players. They're they're solid support players.

1887
01:26:38,034 --> 01:26:40,354
Speaker 4: They're the middle class that Paul likes to scoff at.

1888
01:26:40,434 --> 01:26:42,874
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's hard to say that sets I

1889
01:26:43,514 --> 01:26:45,994
Speaker 6: wouldn't have done more, But at safety, I think they

1890
01:26:46,194 --> 01:26:48,274
Speaker 6: like that position group. It's been you know, it is

1891
01:26:48,314 --> 01:26:51,554
Speaker 6: what it is. With what's happened to Pepper's Bentley, I'm

1892
01:26:51,634 --> 01:26:54,634
Speaker 6: kind of a little bit confused on just because I'm

1893
01:26:54,634 --> 01:26:57,674
Speaker 6: looking at next offseason and yeah, he's gonna come back,

1894
01:26:57,714 --> 01:27:00,034
Speaker 6: but I think you've seen this year that the drop

1895
01:27:00,074 --> 01:27:02,274
Speaker 6: off of not having a second guy who can play

1896
01:27:02,634 --> 01:27:05,594
Speaker 6: inside off the ball is a detriment. So I would

1897
01:27:05,634 --> 01:27:08,434
Speaker 6: I would consider drafting that that that spot next year.

1898
01:27:08,434 --> 01:27:12,634
Speaker 5: I said, you know, edge, Mike, You've always been edge

1899
01:27:12,634 --> 01:27:15,074
Speaker 5: in another corner, like you know, and then the linebackers

1900
01:27:15,074 --> 01:27:17,634
Speaker 5: and stuff. I'd agree with all your assessments. I just

1901
01:27:18,194 --> 01:27:21,314
Speaker 5: I think it's fair to criticize the structure of the

1902
01:27:21,434 --> 01:27:24,394
Speaker 5: roster because they could have done more. But I don't

1903
01:27:24,434 --> 01:27:29,914
Speaker 5: necessarily blame them for Listen, if bar Moore, Bentley and

1904
01:27:29,954 --> 01:27:33,754
Speaker 5: Pepper's were all out there and listen, that's unrealistic because

1905
01:27:33,754 --> 01:27:36,834
Speaker 5: every defense loses guys. But if those guys were out there,

1906
01:27:36,874 --> 01:27:38,554
Speaker 5: that's the defense they thought they will bring it into

1907
01:27:38,554 --> 01:27:40,954
Speaker 5: the season. I think they'd be one and six, well

1908
01:27:40,994 --> 01:27:42,554
Speaker 5: three of those guys, but they wouldn't be allowing two

1909
01:27:42,594 --> 01:27:46,274
Speaker 5: hundred yards a game rushing and and you know, maybe

1910
01:27:46,274 --> 01:27:47,794
Speaker 5: they'd be two and five because I think they would

1911
01:27:47,794 --> 01:27:53,434
Speaker 5: have won the Miami game. But to Mike's point, what

1912
01:27:54,194 --> 01:27:57,194
Speaker 5: you know, fourth round pick, you know, maybe a guy

1913
01:27:57,234 --> 01:27:59,954
Speaker 5: like that early day three kind of a pick on defense. Yeah,

1914
01:27:59,994 --> 01:28:02,554
Speaker 5: that's a guy that I think Mike is right, you

1915
01:28:02,554 --> 01:28:06,074
Speaker 5: can add some depth to your some areas that are lacking.

1916
01:28:06,154 --> 01:28:09,234
Speaker 5: But I don't think that they should have been interested

1917
01:28:09,274 --> 01:28:13,994
Speaker 5: in high profile signings and free agency on defense at

1918
01:28:13,994 --> 01:28:17,274
Speaker 5: those spots, not even getting into the same problem I

1919
01:28:17,274 --> 01:28:19,674
Speaker 5: think they were to run into, like daniel Hunter got

1920
01:28:19,754 --> 01:28:21,434
Speaker 5: moved in the off You think Danielle Hunter wants to

1921
01:28:21,474 --> 01:28:24,034
Speaker 5: go to the Patriots in the off season he goes

1922
01:28:24,074 --> 01:28:24,554
Speaker 5: to Houston.

1923
01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:29,634
Speaker 4: I think, is your mind right now wrapped around? Forget

1924
01:28:29,674 --> 01:28:32,554
Speaker 4: about the quick fixes. We need long term guys.

1925
01:28:32,794 --> 01:28:35,354
Speaker 5: That's how I look at it. Yes, Yeah, that's why

1926
01:28:35,394 --> 01:28:37,794
Speaker 5: I'm not overly interested in like Cooper Cup right now.

1927
01:28:38,834 --> 01:28:42,914
Speaker 5: You know, I don't. Yeah, would that help right now? Yeah,

1928
01:28:42,954 --> 01:28:45,394
Speaker 5: but that's not gonna help me get where I want

1929
01:28:45,394 --> 01:28:45,634
Speaker 5: to go.

1930
01:28:46,874 --> 01:28:49,194
Speaker 4: Roy says Paul would look good behind the wheel of

1931
01:28:49,194 --> 01:28:52,834
Speaker 4: an avalon. Oh that's the top end. I think.

1932
01:28:52,914 --> 01:28:57,354
Speaker 5: Oh well, I would be fine with whatever you're going

1933
01:28:57,434 --> 01:28:59,714
Speaker 5: to give me for the bags.

1934
01:29:00,874 --> 01:29:04,594
Speaker 4: Afford kudos to him for pointing out the absence of Barmore,

1935
01:29:04,634 --> 01:29:07,194
Speaker 4: Bentley and Pepper's It led to the run stats that

1936
01:29:07,234 --> 01:29:21,754
Speaker 4: Belichick referenced. Anyway, Okay, Evan's backs and has turned has turned.

1937
01:29:26,034 --> 01:29:26,354
Speaker 5: All right.

1938
01:29:26,394 --> 01:29:28,714
Speaker 4: We're eagerly awaiting your report.

1939
01:29:29,114 --> 01:29:32,194
Speaker 2: I know this is big stuff. Good news or bad news.

1940
01:29:33,554 --> 01:29:36,954
Speaker 2: Good news first, good news first. For Andre Stevenson, back

1941
01:29:36,954 --> 01:29:39,794
Speaker 2: at Patriots practice on Thursday.

1942
01:29:40,074 --> 01:29:41,554
Speaker 4: Spoke to us.

1943
01:29:41,714 --> 01:29:45,434
Speaker 2: He spoke correct, No, totally not correct. He spoke to

1944
01:29:45,474 --> 01:29:49,234
Speaker 2: us earlier today. It sounded like a family personal matter

1945
01:29:49,594 --> 01:29:53,554
Speaker 2: is why he didn't practice yesterday. Not necessarily the injury. Uh,

1946
01:29:53,594 --> 01:29:55,514
Speaker 2: so he he looks like he's gonna be good to

1947
01:29:55,554 --> 01:29:59,754
Speaker 2: go again on Sunday. And the bad news No Jalen

1948
01:29:59,834 --> 01:30:03,674
Speaker 2: Polk still so he remains in concussion protocol. That one's

1949
01:30:03,714 --> 01:30:07,194
Speaker 2: not turning in a great direction. And no Leyden Robinson still.

1950
01:30:07,634 --> 01:30:14,794
Speaker 2: So both those guys are Darian Lowe was there, but

1951
01:30:14,874 --> 01:30:17,514
Speaker 2: then just like yesterday, he was there and then was

1952
01:30:17,514 --> 01:30:19,674
Speaker 2: still a d NP on the injury report later in

1953
01:30:19,714 --> 01:30:22,434
Speaker 2: the day, So TVD on that one. But he again

1954
01:30:22,674 --> 01:30:24,514
Speaker 2: when we took attendance, he was there.

1955
01:30:24,554 --> 01:30:27,354
Speaker 6: There was a few of those DMP yesterday.

1956
01:30:26,954 --> 01:30:27,154
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1957
01:30:27,354 --> 01:30:28,874
Speaker 2: On Waite also there, Yeah.

1958
01:30:28,714 --> 01:30:31,114
Speaker 6: Falling on there was one more, gotcha.

1959
01:30:31,514 --> 01:30:36,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like this regime are giving some more

1960
01:30:36,994 --> 01:30:40,674
Speaker 2: of those, Oh he's banged up on a Wednesday kind

1961
01:30:40,714 --> 01:30:44,194
Speaker 2: of days to guys that are playing a lot, you know,

1962
01:30:44,234 --> 01:30:46,954
Speaker 2: like a Keon White for example, who is playing a

1963
01:30:46,994 --> 01:30:49,434
Speaker 2: ton and just give him one of those days to

1964
01:30:49,434 --> 01:30:51,274
Speaker 2: to rest whatever is kiling him.

1965
01:30:51,514 --> 01:30:54,994
Speaker 4: All right, let's see what do We got a little

1966
01:30:55,074 --> 01:30:58,394
Speaker 4: cooler today than yesterday, but still mild for this time of.

1967
01:30:58,594 --> 01:31:00,994
Speaker 2: A great day. It's a great day out there today.

1968
01:31:01,674 --> 01:31:04,794
Speaker 2: A little overcast today compared to yesterday.

1969
01:31:04,954 --> 01:31:07,594
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe a little smoke in the air, little forest

1970
01:31:07,634 --> 01:31:08,674
Speaker 6: fires going on around.

1971
01:31:09,794 --> 01:31:11,994
Speaker 2: I did not know that, but yeah, a little bit,

1972
01:31:12,394 --> 01:31:13,994
Speaker 2: you know, different today than yesterday.

1973
01:31:14,034 --> 01:31:20,114
Speaker 4: But so you heard the coordinators this morning, Alex van Pelt,

1974
01:31:20,314 --> 01:31:23,114
Speaker 4: did you get a sense that this morning's meeting was

1975
01:31:23,154 --> 01:31:25,234
Speaker 4: a good meeting from the Wide Receiving Corps.

1976
01:31:28,874 --> 01:31:30,754
Speaker 2: I think Kendrick Bourne said a lot of the right

1977
01:31:30,794 --> 01:31:33,994
Speaker 2: things today, and I do believe that he is trying

1978
01:31:34,714 --> 01:31:37,194
Speaker 2: to be a leader in that room, and he's trying

1979
01:31:37,234 --> 01:31:40,634
Speaker 2: to take guys under his wing, if you will. I

1980
01:31:40,674 --> 01:31:41,634
Speaker 2: think that right now.

1981
01:31:41,674 --> 01:31:42,154
Speaker 5: There's just.

1982
01:31:44,514 --> 01:31:48,514
Speaker 2: For me personally, some of the quoting of the Wide

1983
01:31:48,554 --> 01:31:53,514
Speaker 2: Receivers I personally feel has been unfair by my colleagues.

1984
01:31:54,114 --> 01:31:59,354
Speaker 2: You know, somebody asks Kayshawn Booties yesterday, what's your mentality

1985
01:31:59,434 --> 01:32:02,754
Speaker 2: on the field, and he says, I want the ball

1986
01:32:03,314 --> 01:32:05,954
Speaker 2: and then that gets run with as a quote of him.

1987
01:32:05,754 --> 01:32:07,354
Speaker 5: Being a diva and selfish.

1988
01:32:07,434 --> 01:32:08,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's like.

1989
01:32:09,954 --> 01:32:10,074
Speaker 4: That.

1990
01:32:10,714 --> 01:32:12,154
Speaker 2: It was a question about what.

1991
01:32:12,154 --> 01:32:15,834
Speaker 5: About the comment that he said the only time I

1992
01:32:15,954 --> 01:32:17,714
Speaker 5: get the ball was when I ask for it. He

1993
01:32:17,754 --> 01:32:20,154
Speaker 5: didn't say that though, Oh okay, yeah, someone just made

1994
01:32:20,234 --> 01:32:20,674
Speaker 5: up a quote.

1995
01:32:20,754 --> 01:32:23,114
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying it was made up, though you know,

1996
01:32:23,274 --> 01:32:26,314
Speaker 2: he said that he came to the sideline in the

1997
01:32:26,354 --> 01:32:32,114
Speaker 2: Texans game specifically and said something along the lines of,

1998
01:32:33,594 --> 01:32:36,794
Speaker 2: you know, I can get this guy. You know, he

1999
01:32:36,914 --> 01:32:37,914
Speaker 2: knows stingly.

2000
01:32:37,634 --> 01:32:40,074
Speaker 5: Very well everybody. So you're saying he was misquoted because

2001
01:32:40,074 --> 01:32:42,434
Speaker 5: that's not what he said. That's not what he's being

2002
01:32:42,474 --> 01:32:42,914
Speaker 5: credited as.

2003
01:32:43,234 --> 01:32:45,474
Speaker 2: I would I would just say that the quote in

2004
01:32:45,514 --> 01:32:49,274
Speaker 2: the in the context of the question is important. You

2005
01:32:49,314 --> 01:32:49,754
Speaker 2: know the question.

2006
01:32:49,794 --> 01:32:50,394
Speaker 5: Agree with that.

2007
01:32:50,434 --> 01:32:54,914
Speaker 2: The question was what is your mentality on the field,

2008
01:32:55,514 --> 01:32:58,074
Speaker 2: and his mentality as a wide receiver is that he

2009
01:32:58,154 --> 01:33:01,874
Speaker 2: wants the ball if his mentality as a wide receiver was.

2010
01:33:03,114 --> 01:33:06,554
Speaker 5: But his again, I'm not in the locker room because

2011
01:33:06,594 --> 01:33:07,834
Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to be anymore.

2012
01:33:08,154 --> 01:33:09,274
Speaker 4: And that's not true.

2013
01:33:09,434 --> 01:33:12,354
Speaker 5: That's kind of true. If you have a camera, it

2014
01:33:12,474 --> 01:33:13,074
Speaker 5: kind of is.

2015
01:33:13,194 --> 01:33:13,594
Speaker 6: It's not.

2016
01:33:13,954 --> 01:33:17,954
Speaker 5: They don't want us in the locker room cameras no period.

2017
01:33:18,194 --> 01:33:21,674
Speaker 4: No. Yes, maybe, but that's not the rule.

2018
01:33:21,714 --> 01:33:24,034
Speaker 5: Don't want us many of us in the locker trying

2019
01:33:24,074 --> 01:33:25,554
Speaker 5: to cut back on that, so I'm trying.

2020
01:33:26,154 --> 01:33:27,794
Speaker 4: If you have something to do in the locker room,

2021
01:33:27,834 --> 01:33:30,074
Speaker 4: you have every right to be in there.

2022
01:33:30,194 --> 01:33:33,474
Speaker 5: The that's not the same as him saying the last

2023
01:33:33,474 --> 01:33:35,114
Speaker 5: two weeks. The only time I got the ball, I

2024
01:33:35,154 --> 01:33:38,594
Speaker 5: had to ask for it, and like saying I want

2025
01:33:38,594 --> 01:33:40,514
Speaker 5: the ball is not the same the same. That's what

2026
01:33:40,554 --> 01:33:43,114
Speaker 5: he's being credited as having said. If he didn't say it,

2027
01:33:43,394 --> 01:33:47,914
Speaker 5: then that's wrong. If he did say it, Like again,

2028
01:33:47,994 --> 01:33:51,314
Speaker 5: I'm not there, so I don't know. I'm always going

2029
01:33:51,354 --> 01:33:53,914
Speaker 5: off what i'm reading them, them, these guys writing on

2030
01:33:53,954 --> 01:33:56,514
Speaker 5: Twitter and stuff. So if Evan's telling you that's not

2031
01:33:56,554 --> 01:33:58,594
Speaker 5: what he said, then he's being misquoted.

2032
01:33:58,914 --> 01:34:01,714
Speaker 2: That's wrong, right, Yeah, I wouldn't say he's being misquoted.

2033
01:34:01,754 --> 01:34:04,914
Speaker 2: I would just say that it's the context of the

2034
01:34:04,954 --> 01:34:08,154
Speaker 2: setup is important because you can pull quotes and you

2035
01:34:08,154 --> 01:34:10,154
Speaker 2: can pull a set. You know, he gives a four

2036
01:34:10,234 --> 01:34:12,794
Speaker 2: sentence answer, and then you can pull a quote of

2037
01:34:12,874 --> 01:34:15,314
Speaker 2: one sentence that he says in the four sentence answer

2038
01:34:15,354 --> 01:34:18,194
Speaker 2: that sounds a little spicy, and and frame it in

2039
01:34:18,234 --> 01:34:20,434
Speaker 2: a certain way to make it look spicy, you know.

2040
01:34:20,514 --> 01:34:23,674
Speaker 2: kJ Osborne. I was in that scrum yesterday too, and

2041
01:34:23,794 --> 01:34:26,754
Speaker 2: kJ Osborne got asked ten different ways do you want

2042
01:34:26,754 --> 01:34:31,754
Speaker 2: to be traded? It's like how many literally rephrasing the

2043
01:34:31,834 --> 01:34:34,914
Speaker 2: question over and over and over and over again with

2044
01:34:34,954 --> 01:34:37,754
Speaker 2: the same question. Of do you want to be traded?

2045
01:34:37,754 --> 01:34:40,234
Speaker 2: Do you want to be here? Do you know all

2046
01:34:40,314 --> 01:34:43,234
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and he said, I'm here right now.

2047
01:34:43,314 --> 01:34:44,234
Speaker 2: This is where I am.

2048
01:34:44,314 --> 01:34:45,874
Speaker 5: I don't care about the l oop comment.

2049
01:34:46,234 --> 01:34:48,714
Speaker 4: That's anale loop.

2050
01:34:49,434 --> 01:34:51,834
Speaker 2: No, I just I'm just telling you.

2051
01:34:52,074 --> 01:34:57,594
Speaker 5: I will just say this misquoted, misrepresented whatever. The coaches

2052
01:34:57,674 --> 01:35:01,234
Speaker 5: obviously felt strongly enough to have a meeting about it. Yeah,

2053
01:35:01,554 --> 01:35:04,194
Speaker 5: like we got to keep that inside. That's what Alex

2054
01:35:04,274 --> 01:35:06,154
Speaker 5: van Pelt said today. We got to keep that internal.

2055
01:35:06,154 --> 01:35:07,754
Speaker 5: We got to do a better job. He was asked

2056
01:35:07,794 --> 01:35:10,794
Speaker 5: specifically about the wide receivers for context, he was asked

2057
01:35:10,794 --> 01:35:13,434
Speaker 5: specifically about the wide receiver room, and he said, we

2058
01:35:13,514 --> 01:35:15,634
Speaker 5: got to do a better job of keeping that stuff inward.

2059
01:35:16,154 --> 01:35:18,834
Speaker 5: I'm not trying they thought it was important enough to address.

2060
01:35:19,074 --> 01:35:21,474
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you it's not important enough to address.

2061
01:35:21,594 --> 01:35:25,354
Speaker 2: I am just telling you that there are there's a

2062
01:35:25,354 --> 01:35:27,714
Speaker 2: way to do it, you know, like there's and these

2063
01:35:27,714 --> 01:35:29,714
Speaker 2: guys got to button up what they're saying. There's no

2064
01:35:29,754 --> 01:35:32,474
Speaker 2: doubt about that. And I'm it's smart that the team

2065
01:35:32,514 --> 01:35:35,074
Speaker 2: is addressing it. I just think a lot of the

2066
01:35:35,114 --> 01:35:39,834
Speaker 2: things that are being said are are being amplified because

2067
01:35:39,834 --> 01:35:42,594
Speaker 2: the team is one and six, and everybody is looking

2068
01:35:42,634 --> 01:35:45,874
Speaker 2: for something life that, for something to quote and for

2069
01:35:45,954 --> 01:35:48,034
Speaker 2: something to say, and.

2070
01:35:47,874 --> 01:35:50,594
Speaker 4: All the more reasons for them to be careful, right, you.

2071
01:35:50,554 --> 01:35:55,594
Speaker 2: Know, agreed. I just a lot of that going on.

2072
01:35:55,514 --> 01:35:57,874
Speaker 4: More importantly, and we do have to hurry because picks.

2073
01:35:58,714 --> 01:36:01,874
Speaker 4: But how is the civil war among the media going?

2074
01:36:02,154 --> 01:36:02,314
Speaker 5: Oh?

2075
01:36:02,474 --> 01:36:03,074
Speaker 4: Who's winning?

2076
01:36:03,154 --> 01:36:04,594
Speaker 2: I know that's what we're going now.

2077
01:36:04,594 --> 01:36:06,514
Speaker 5: I'm interested got a civil war?

2078
01:36:06,714 --> 01:36:09,794
Speaker 4: Who's winning? Uh? I don't want to put you.

2079
01:36:09,794 --> 01:36:12,754
Speaker 2: Other spot well with your colleagues now, I mean, and

2080
01:36:12,874 --> 01:36:15,834
Speaker 2: I don't want to and I don't want to throw

2081
01:36:15,874 --> 01:36:19,554
Speaker 2: anybody under the bus. I just too late, I know.

2082
01:36:19,714 --> 01:36:22,714
Speaker 2: But it just feels and look, we.

2083
01:36:22,474 --> 01:36:24,914
Speaker 4: We feel like people are taking sides a little bit.

2084
01:36:24,954 --> 01:36:26,874
Speaker 2: We we talk about it all the time that our

2085
01:36:26,994 --> 01:36:29,914
Speaker 2: job is slightly different than than what it is when

2086
01:36:29,954 --> 01:36:33,154
Speaker 2: you work on the outside. But when you go into

2087
01:36:33,194 --> 01:36:36,154
Speaker 2: the locker room and you have a goal in mind

2088
01:36:36,314 --> 01:36:39,354
Speaker 2: of I'm going to talk to kJ Osborne or I'm

2089
01:36:39,354 --> 01:36:41,994
Speaker 2: going to talk to Kaishawn Booty, and then you're asking

2090
01:36:42,434 --> 01:36:46,914
Speaker 2: certain pointed questions and the guys are answering the questions,

2091
01:36:47,234 --> 01:36:49,114
Speaker 2: and then we're running with it like it doesn't do

2092
01:36:49,194 --> 01:36:53,034
Speaker 2: anybody as service right, like it's not it the child,

2093
01:36:53,434 --> 01:36:56,154
Speaker 2: it's just not okay, I don't know.

2094
01:36:56,434 --> 01:36:59,754
Speaker 5: I'm well, I don't know. But the job used to

2095
01:37:00,674 --> 01:37:02,634
Speaker 5: it's not the weekend has his agent come out and

2096
01:37:02,674 --> 01:37:06,674
Speaker 5: say he wants to get as him about getting traded job.

2097
01:37:06,914 --> 01:37:09,554
Speaker 4: But the job used to be get those quotes and

2098
01:37:09,594 --> 01:37:13,594
Speaker 4: then write the story with the facts behind it and elaborate.

2099
01:37:13,914 --> 01:37:16,154
Speaker 4: But now it's just for clicks. Now it's just get

2100
01:37:16,154 --> 01:37:19,034
Speaker 4: the headline out in my tweet and I got clicks,

2101
01:37:19,074 --> 01:37:22,354
Speaker 4: and you know, fine, But it used to be there

2102
01:37:22,394 --> 01:37:27,874
Speaker 4: was some reporting behind those quotes, you know, like what's

2103
01:37:27,914 --> 01:37:29,594
Speaker 4: going on, like what's the you know.

2104
01:37:29,594 --> 01:37:31,874
Speaker 5: This just gets back to my original thing. This is

2105
01:37:31,914 --> 01:37:33,194
Speaker 5: the way people want to do it now.

2106
01:37:33,274 --> 01:37:34,394
Speaker 4: No, I know, that's what I'm saying.

2107
01:37:35,594 --> 01:37:38,034
Speaker 5: Wants to report, that's right, And then they try to

2108
01:37:38,074 --> 01:37:40,234
Speaker 5: report and they get made fun of. This is what happens. Well,

2109
01:37:40,274 --> 01:37:43,274
Speaker 5: they're making it up, they're blowing it out of proportion. No,

2110
01:37:43,274 --> 01:37:46,434
Speaker 5: they're not, well, you know they're not. I'm not saying

2111
01:37:46,434 --> 01:37:49,034
Speaker 5: it's not good. And when the coaches are openly talking

2112
01:37:49,034 --> 01:37:51,794
Speaker 5: about the meetings that they're having in the morning, these

2113
01:37:51,794 --> 01:37:55,274
Speaker 5: are issues in the locker room. They should be pounding him.

2114
01:37:55,634 --> 01:37:57,954
Speaker 5: If this was New York, it would be way worse.

2115
01:37:58,954 --> 01:38:00,994
Speaker 5: But there's too many here that just want to be

2116
01:38:01,114 --> 01:38:04,234
Speaker 5: covering the Patriots and put that on their resumes, put

2117
01:38:04,234 --> 01:38:06,474
Speaker 5: it on there. To your point, that's how they're getting clicks.

2118
01:38:06,794 --> 01:38:09,354
Speaker 5: They're on there, they're on Twitter telling everybody I covered

2119
01:38:09,354 --> 01:38:11,954
Speaker 5: the Patriots in my avatar with me talking to Tom

2120
01:38:11,994 --> 01:38:15,274
Speaker 5: Brady like that's that's the identity for half of these people.

2121
01:38:15,714 --> 01:38:16,874
Speaker 4: Who could we be talking to?

2122
01:38:17,514 --> 01:38:20,274
Speaker 5: All right, a lot of people that's that's not an

2123
01:38:20,274 --> 01:38:21,074
Speaker 5: individual thing.

2124
01:38:21,274 --> 01:38:22,634
Speaker 6: No, I know, I know.

2125
01:38:23,514 --> 01:38:26,714
Speaker 5: It's just fun to say, cover the team, Like, that's

2126
01:38:26,714 --> 01:38:30,354
Speaker 5: not your job to have fun. It's hard. Well, if

2127
01:38:30,394 --> 01:38:32,514
Speaker 5: you're doing it right, it's hard, and you don't have

2128
01:38:32,554 --> 01:38:34,634
Speaker 5: to be a flamethrower. Mike Vice is as good at

2129
01:38:34,674 --> 01:38:36,994
Speaker 5: it as anybody. He's not a flamethrower. No he's not,

2130
01:38:37,674 --> 01:38:40,154
Speaker 5: but he's he's like he's covers the team.

2131
01:38:40,714 --> 01:38:45,434
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's well anyway anyway. No, listen,

2132
01:38:46,394 --> 01:38:48,514
Speaker 4: you got to ask the questions. You have to ask

2133
01:38:48,554 --> 01:38:49,794
Speaker 4: the questions.

2134
01:38:49,514 --> 01:38:51,354
Speaker 5: And when they answer them, you got to write what

2135
01:38:51,394 --> 01:38:55,794
Speaker 5: they say. Yeah, I have no inside doesn't think you should.

2136
01:38:56,314 --> 01:38:57,594
Speaker 2: I have no problem with any of that.

2137
01:38:57,754 --> 01:38:58,154
Speaker 5: I just.

2138
01:38:59,674 --> 01:39:05,754
Speaker 2: It's a young group. These guys are clearly saying things that.

2139
01:39:06,274 --> 01:39:10,554
Speaker 4: Well they need they are probably they need instruction. You know,

2140
01:39:10,634 --> 01:39:12,154
Speaker 4: you can't just say everything.

2141
01:39:11,874 --> 01:39:14,674
Speaker 2: That's on your today. Everybody goes up to Javon Baker

2142
01:39:15,074 --> 01:39:17,034
Speaker 2: and now I'm sure that in an hour there'll be

2143
01:39:17,074 --> 01:39:19,874
Speaker 2: a bunch of stories about what's going on with you know,

2144
01:39:19,914 --> 01:39:21,874
Speaker 2: what he had to say about his issues.

2145
01:39:21,914 --> 01:39:24,714
Speaker 4: You know, you have to consider my role on the team,

2146
01:39:25,354 --> 01:39:29,954
Speaker 4: responsibility to my teammates, and like, is what I'm about

2147
01:39:29,994 --> 01:39:34,994
Speaker 4: to say helping us win games or you know? Or

2148
01:39:35,114 --> 01:39:36,154
Speaker 4: is it gonna hurt it?

2149
01:39:36,514 --> 01:39:37,754
Speaker 5: Or is it serving my agenda?

2150
01:39:37,954 --> 01:39:39,073
Speaker 4: Is it serving my agenda?

2151
01:39:39,154 --> 01:39:40,674
Speaker 5: But I think there's been too much of that.

2152
01:39:40,754 --> 01:39:42,954
Speaker 4: There's too much of that. Am I creating a distraction

2153
01:39:43,394 --> 01:39:48,154
Speaker 4: for my teammates? Okay? What happened last week? Paul?

2154
01:39:48,354 --> 01:39:57,594
Speaker 5: All right? Not not quite the dominance that Evan and

2155
01:39:57,634 --> 01:40:03,434
Speaker 5: I are accustomed to. But Alex, Evan and Paul we're

2156
01:40:03,474 --> 01:40:07,074
Speaker 5: all ten and five, Mike and Fred nine and six

2157
01:40:07,714 --> 01:40:13,954
Speaker 5: overall with the spread. Mike ten and five are rare

2158
01:40:14,234 --> 01:40:16,994
Speaker 5: better with a spread than over all week for Mike.

2159
01:40:17,034 --> 01:40:20,594
Speaker 5: There you go, Alex and Fred nine and six, and

2160
01:40:20,674 --> 01:40:22,954
Speaker 5: I go back down to the basement. I was a

2161
01:40:22,954 --> 01:40:26,154
Speaker 5: one week flash in the pan Evan and seven and eight.

2162
01:40:26,994 --> 01:40:30,994
Speaker 5: So here are the standings. I maintained my lead in

2163
01:40:31,034 --> 01:40:35,034
Speaker 5: the overall at sixty seven and forty, Alex sixty six

2164
01:40:35,154 --> 01:40:40,114
Speaker 5: and forty one, Evan sixty five and forty two, Fred

2165
01:40:40,194 --> 01:40:43,594
Speaker 5: sixty three and forty four, and Mike sixty two and

2166
01:40:43,674 --> 01:40:49,113
Speaker 5: forty five. So we're almost sixty with the spread. Fred

2167
01:40:49,354 --> 01:40:51,954
Speaker 5: and Mike are tied for the top. So Mike pulls

2168
01:40:51,994 --> 01:40:55,113
Speaker 5: off the rare trifector of being in last place overall

2169
01:40:55,114 --> 01:40:57,474
Speaker 5: and in the first place against the spread fifty eight

2170
01:40:57,834 --> 01:41:02,114
Speaker 5: forty six and three, Evan fifty five, forty nine and three,

2171
01:41:02,594 --> 01:41:04,434
Speaker 5: and then Alex and I are tied for the basement

2172
01:41:04,514 --> 01:41:08,034
Speaker 5: with fifty four fifty in three records. Okay, all right,

2173
01:41:08,034 --> 01:41:09,074
Speaker 5: we're all making money, guys.

2174
01:41:09,154 --> 01:41:12,674
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything can happen, all right. So we start with

2175
01:41:12,834 --> 01:41:17,674
Speaker 4: tonight Prime Video eight fifteen. It's the five and one

2176
01:41:17,914 --> 01:41:21,114
Speaker 4: Vikings against the two and four Rams.

2177
01:41:22,034 --> 01:41:24,874
Speaker 5: The Vikings by two and a half at the lar on.

2178
01:41:24,954 --> 01:41:28,954
Speaker 6: The Really that still seems kind of a little bit

2179
01:41:28,994 --> 01:41:32,234
Speaker 6: low to me, but uh, I gotta go to Minnesota.

2180
01:41:32,274 --> 01:41:33,674
Speaker 6: I never have a good feel for them. I'm gonna

2181
01:41:33,674 --> 01:41:35,554
Speaker 6: take Minnesota lay the points.

2182
01:41:35,234 --> 01:41:40,474
Speaker 2: On the road. Yeah, I'm gonna take Minnesota in this

2183
01:41:40,554 --> 01:41:43,754
Speaker 2: game as well, and I will take them to cover

2184
01:41:44,234 --> 01:41:46,314
Speaker 2: to the Rams. Just a lot going on with the

2185
01:41:46,394 --> 01:41:48,514
Speaker 2: Rams right now. Yeah, so I'm gonna go with the Vikings.

2186
01:41:49,314 --> 01:41:52,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, Alex also she has given me your picks. Alex

2187
01:41:52,834 --> 01:41:54,954
Speaker 5: takes Minnesota both ways. I'm gonna be with the boys.

2188
01:41:54,954 --> 01:41:57,594
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Vikings. I do think the lar

2189
01:41:57,754 --> 01:42:00,394
Speaker 5: has a chance to be a different team in the

2190
01:42:00,434 --> 01:42:03,154
Speaker 5: second half, but they might be sort of beyond that

2191
01:42:03,234 --> 01:42:05,754
Speaker 5: point of being able to be relevant this year. I'm

2192
01:42:05,794 --> 01:42:07,114
Speaker 5: gonna take the Vikings on the road.

2193
01:42:07,274 --> 01:42:10,394
Speaker 4: I am also gonna take the Vikings both ways. Okay,

2194
01:42:10,474 --> 01:42:13,394
Speaker 4: we moved to Sunday. There's no international game, so no

2195
01:42:13,514 --> 01:42:14,114
Speaker 4: early game.

2196
01:42:14,354 --> 01:42:16,794
Speaker 5: We have another Germany game, right that's coming up.

2197
01:42:16,914 --> 01:42:18,074
Speaker 4: We don't, but the league does.

2198
01:42:18,474 --> 01:42:21,314
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, we're not playing in Germany that this year. No,

2199
01:42:21,314 --> 01:42:22,594
Speaker 5: no scheduled.

2200
01:42:22,634 --> 01:42:23,194
Speaker 4: Yeah there is.

2201
01:42:23,434 --> 01:42:25,314
Speaker 5: I mean, I know I wasn't allowed to see it

2202
01:42:24,994 --> 01:42:27,114
Speaker 5: when came out, but I would have thought by.

2203
01:42:26,994 --> 01:42:30,274
Speaker 2: Now, not allowed to know you're not allowed to do

2204
01:42:30,314 --> 01:42:30,794
Speaker 2: these days.

2205
01:42:31,554 --> 01:42:34,034
Speaker 5: Well, that one is actually true. I'm not allowed to

2206
01:42:34,034 --> 01:42:34,674
Speaker 5: see the schedule.

2207
01:42:34,994 --> 01:42:38,354
Speaker 4: They're back in Munich this year. Munich Sunday at one

2208
01:42:38,394 --> 01:42:41,834
Speaker 4: on CBS. The five and two Ravens are at the

2209
01:42:41,954 --> 01:42:42,594
Speaker 4: one and six.

2210
01:42:42,674 --> 01:42:45,594
Speaker 5: Browns Baltimore by eight and a half.

2211
01:42:46,074 --> 01:42:48,994
Speaker 6: Boy who is Cleveland's quarterback?

2212
01:42:51,074 --> 01:42:51,994
Speaker 2: Eat those ws?

2213
01:42:52,074 --> 01:42:54,034
Speaker 6: He's so funny, cracks.

2214
01:42:54,074 --> 01:42:55,034
Speaker 4: How does he do it like this?

2215
01:42:55,234 --> 01:42:56,394
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of his.

2216
01:42:56,874 --> 01:42:59,634
Speaker 6: Just the personality. I just he makes me laugh every

2217
01:42:59,714 --> 01:43:00,714
Speaker 6: time I see him with this.

2218
01:43:01,034 --> 01:43:04,234
Speaker 4: No, he goes like this and then he eats it.

2219
01:43:04,394 --> 01:43:05,434
Speaker 5: Yeah, he eats the w.

2220
01:43:05,914 --> 01:43:08,674
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Baltimore to win, but you say nine

2221
01:43:08,714 --> 01:43:09,034
Speaker 6: and a half?

2222
01:43:09,114 --> 01:43:09,634
Speaker 2: Was that what it was?

2223
01:43:09,994 --> 01:43:12,434
Speaker 6: Eight and a half. I'm gonna take the points for Cleveland, though,

2224
01:43:12,434 --> 01:43:15,594
Speaker 6: I think jameis gonna throw some balls downfield and make

2225
01:43:15,634 --> 01:43:16,474
Speaker 6: it a little bit interesting.

2226
01:43:17,754 --> 01:43:20,514
Speaker 5: Alex takes Baltimore both ways, I do as well.

2227
01:43:20,674 --> 01:43:21,994
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be a blow up.

2228
01:43:22,754 --> 01:43:24,954
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Baltimore both ways. But I do worry

2229
01:43:24,954 --> 01:43:29,634
Speaker 5: about that Ravens defense. If Cleveland can somehow stay reasonably

2230
01:43:29,634 --> 01:43:32,754
Speaker 5: close Nick Chubb, you know, second game back, Maybe he

2231
01:43:32,754 --> 01:43:33,754
Speaker 5: can run a little bit, but.

2232
01:43:33,754 --> 01:43:36,034
Speaker 4: It'll score points running the ball pon, but you keep

2233
01:43:36,074 --> 01:43:36,354
Speaker 4: it close.

2234
01:43:36,394 --> 01:43:38,234
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the spread. Okay, but I'm gonna I'm

2235
01:43:38,234 --> 01:43:38,994
Speaker 5: gonna lay the points.

2236
01:43:39,074 --> 01:43:43,234
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Fox one o'clock one in five Titans

2237
01:43:43,674 --> 01:43:44,994
Speaker 4: at the five and one.

2238
01:43:44,954 --> 01:43:47,794
Speaker 5: Lions Detroit by eleven.

2239
01:43:48,034 --> 01:43:52,754
Speaker 4: Geez, that's a big spread. We got the Titans next week, right,

2240
01:43:52,914 --> 01:43:54,274
Speaker 4: we could be looking ahead to us.

2241
01:43:54,354 --> 01:44:00,114
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, the Lions. I'm gonna take the Lions at

2242
01:44:00,114 --> 01:44:02,914
Speaker 6: home for sure. Is that too many points? I don't

2243
01:44:02,954 --> 01:44:04,394
Speaker 6: think it is. I'll lay the eleven.

2244
01:44:04,794 --> 01:44:06,234
Speaker 5: Yes, Alex agrees with Mike.

2245
01:44:07,194 --> 01:44:09,714
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Lion. The Titans defense has actually

2246
01:44:09,754 --> 01:44:13,154
Speaker 2: been okay, it's their offense that's been deplorable. So I'm

2247
01:44:13,154 --> 01:44:16,994
Speaker 2: gonna take the Lions and I'm gonna take the Titans.

2248
01:44:17,074 --> 01:44:18,834
Speaker 2: That's a big spread. Is I'm gonna take the Titans

2249
01:44:18,874 --> 01:44:19,114
Speaker 2: to cover?

2250
01:44:20,434 --> 01:44:23,314
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Detroit both ways. I think that

2251
01:44:23,434 --> 01:44:24,994
Speaker 5: offense is really clicking.

2252
01:44:25,594 --> 01:44:28,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sharps are really telling you something here. Eleven

2253
01:44:28,074 --> 01:44:31,954
Speaker 4: and a half. Definitely take the Lions both ways here,

2254
01:44:31,994 --> 01:44:36,794
Speaker 4: that's what the smart money is going, and Fred is leading.

2255
01:44:37,474 --> 01:44:39,594
Speaker 4: And then look at the money. Then look at the

2256
01:44:39,594 --> 01:44:42,314
Speaker 4: money line too. The money line's not as attractive.

2257
01:44:43,314 --> 01:44:44,234
Speaker 6: Tells you all you need to know.

2258
01:44:44,274 --> 01:44:46,154
Speaker 5: About. I don't even know what he's talking about.

2259
01:44:46,714 --> 01:44:48,634
Speaker 2: I believe it though attractive money.

2260
01:44:48,394 --> 01:44:53,154
Speaker 4: Lines CBS one o'clock. The four and three Colts are

2261
01:44:53,194 --> 01:44:55,794
Speaker 4: at the five and two Texans.

2262
01:44:55,354 --> 01:44:59,754
Speaker 5: Houston by five, kicking themselves up to kicking away a

2263
01:44:59,794 --> 01:45:02,714
Speaker 5: game last week. Yeah, terrible clock manage.

2264
01:45:03,394 --> 01:45:04,954
Speaker 6: I'll take Houston. I'll lay the points.

2265
01:45:06,834 --> 01:45:08,634
Speaker 2: Fred I'm having a tough time this week because we

2266
01:45:08,714 --> 01:45:11,154
Speaker 2: really did not watch a single second of anybody else.

2267
01:45:11,194 --> 01:45:13,274
Speaker 2: I'd accept the Patriots. So I have no idea what

2268
01:45:13,394 --> 01:45:17,554
Speaker 2: happened in the league. Alex Houston, I don't know what

2269
01:45:17,634 --> 01:45:20,314
Speaker 2: that's in reference to. I have no clue. I am

2270
01:45:20,354 --> 01:45:24,594
Speaker 2: going to take the Texans in this game. Yeah, give

2271
01:45:24,634 --> 01:45:27,194
Speaker 2: me the Texans. I think they take care of business.

2272
01:45:30,234 --> 01:45:32,554
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take Texans, and I'll lay the

2273
01:45:32,594 --> 01:45:34,394
Speaker 5: points to folks.

2274
01:45:35,154 --> 01:45:38,114
Speaker 4: This is this is where the feel for the league

2275
01:45:38,154 --> 01:45:41,674
Speaker 4: comes in. I'm tempted to take the Texans both ways,

2276
01:45:41,714 --> 01:45:44,954
Speaker 4: but I won't. But I will say that the Colts

2277
01:45:44,954 --> 01:45:49,114
Speaker 4: will cover. Remember remember that this is a divisional game

2278
01:45:49,914 --> 01:45:56,114
Speaker 4: and these two teams they know each other. So I'm

2279
01:45:56,154 --> 01:45:59,274
Speaker 4: looking at the Colts to cover, to cover that spread,

2280
01:45:59,394 --> 01:46:03,754
Speaker 4: and that's your underdog point spread. Lock of the week.

2281
01:46:04,434 --> 01:46:05,994
Speaker 5: A lot of qualifiers there.

2282
01:46:07,754 --> 01:46:12,714
Speaker 4: The greatest sideline coach in the modern era. One o'clock

2283
01:46:12,794 --> 01:46:16,634
Speaker 4: on Fox. It's the five and two Packers against the

2284
01:46:16,714 --> 01:46:20,754
Speaker 4: two and five Jaguars coming off. You know this, I

2285
01:46:20,754 --> 01:46:23,394
Speaker 4: think the Jaguars wrote the blueprint on the Patriots.

2286
01:46:23,434 --> 01:46:25,194
Speaker 5: Yeah, green Bay by three and a half.

2287
01:46:26,154 --> 01:46:28,114
Speaker 6: Three and a half. I went against green Bay last week.

2288
01:46:28,194 --> 01:46:31,994
Speaker 6: They may pay. I like green Bay's offense. I think

2289
01:46:32,034 --> 01:46:34,794
Speaker 6: they get on track against Jacksonville and I will lay

2290
01:46:34,794 --> 01:46:35,274
Speaker 6: the points.

2291
01:46:36,554 --> 01:46:42,234
Speaker 5: Alex will as well, go back go, So I will

2292
01:46:42,274 --> 01:46:46,114
Speaker 5: take the Packers, but I will take the hook. Green

2293
01:46:46,154 --> 01:46:47,874
Speaker 5: Bay will win, but I'll take the three and a half.

2294
01:46:48,154 --> 01:46:50,954
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, the hook? You have that much confidence in

2295
01:46:50,994 --> 01:46:51,634
Speaker 4: the Jaguars.

2296
01:46:51,674 --> 01:46:53,954
Speaker 5: No, I don't think the Packers are all that really, No,

2297
01:46:53,994 --> 01:46:56,114
Speaker 5: I don't see I've been underrested. The defense has been

2298
01:46:56,154 --> 01:46:56,634
Speaker 5: pretty good.

2299
01:46:56,714 --> 01:46:59,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been underrestumating the Packers all season. I'm gonna

2300
01:46:59,794 --> 01:47:02,154
Speaker 4: say I'm sorry this week and I'm gonna take the

2301
01:47:02,194 --> 01:47:05,194
Speaker 4: Packers both ways on the Road's.

2302
01:47:05,034 --> 01:47:06,034
Speaker 2: Loss for me too late.

2303
01:47:06,114 --> 01:47:07,594
Speaker 5: Every time I've been on an island, I.

2304
01:47:07,514 --> 01:47:12,434
Speaker 4: Lose Fox at one. The three and four Cardinals are

2305
01:47:12,474 --> 01:47:14,153
Speaker 4: at the two and four.

2306
01:47:14,034 --> 01:47:19,714
Speaker 5: Dolphins Miami by three and a half, with Tua on track.

2307
01:47:19,754 --> 01:47:21,394
Speaker 6: To be back this for this game.

2308
01:47:21,514 --> 01:47:22,634
Speaker 2: But should he play Paul?

2309
01:47:23,114 --> 01:47:26,034
Speaker 5: I really, I think it's irresponsibility and I don't know

2310
01:47:26,034 --> 01:47:29,434
Speaker 5: about but I will not be able to watch that

2311
01:47:29,474 --> 01:47:30,354
Speaker 5: in good conscience.

2312
01:47:30,914 --> 01:47:33,554
Speaker 2: He's not even gonna wear they It makes me uncomfortable.

2313
01:47:35,074 --> 01:47:37,994
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take little Kyler Murray on the road. I'm

2314
01:47:37,994 --> 01:47:38,474
Speaker 6: gonna take.

2315
01:47:38,394 --> 01:47:40,474
Speaker 5: Those points, taking Miami to win.

2316
01:47:40,674 --> 01:47:43,234
Speaker 6: No, I'm gonna take sorry, did you say Arizona's favorite?

2317
01:47:43,394 --> 01:47:44,514
Speaker 5: No, Miami's favorite?

2318
01:47:44,514 --> 01:47:45,874
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I want the points for Arizona.

2319
01:47:45,914 --> 01:47:47,394
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, So who's winning the game?

2320
01:47:47,394 --> 01:47:50,714
Speaker 4: Arizona Arizona Miami's favorite in this game three and a half.

2321
01:47:50,714 --> 01:47:52,594
Speaker 5: How they're at home and they have to home and

2322
01:47:53,194 --> 01:47:56,874
Speaker 5: back and Arizona staks. I mean, there's a lot of

2323
01:47:57,074 --> 01:47:58,554
Speaker 5: a lot of factors involved here.

2324
01:47:59,074 --> 01:48:00,434
Speaker 4: It's my episode pick of the week.

2325
01:48:01,154 --> 01:48:02,594
Speaker 2: This is a tough one.

2326
01:48:06,394 --> 01:48:08,834
Speaker 5: Alex takes Miami to win in Arizona to cover.

2327
01:48:09,474 --> 01:48:12,794
Speaker 2: I usually like the home team with the road team

2328
01:48:12,874 --> 01:48:15,154
Speaker 2: is coming from the West coast, you know, ten o'clock

2329
01:48:15,194 --> 01:48:17,834
Speaker 2: body clock. Sure, so that's what I'm gonna go with.

2330
01:48:18,434 --> 01:48:20,394
Speaker 2: But I do think that the Cardinals were a little

2331
01:48:20,394 --> 01:48:22,314
Speaker 2: feisty last week. But I'm gonna go with the Dolphins

2332
01:48:23,034 --> 01:48:26,674
Speaker 2: both ways. You know what, I'll take the Cardinals taking

2333
01:48:26,714 --> 01:48:28,834
Speaker 2: the point, Dolphins by field goal.

2334
01:48:29,194 --> 01:48:33,234
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that Miami is putting a lot into

2335
01:48:33,274 --> 01:48:35,074
Speaker 5: this game. It's kind of do or die for them.

2336
01:48:35,114 --> 01:48:37,034
Speaker 5: You know, their quarterback is back. They need to win

2337
01:48:37,074 --> 01:48:39,354
Speaker 5: the game. They need to look good offensively. I'm gonna

2338
01:48:39,394 --> 01:48:41,714
Speaker 5: lay the points. Gonna take the Dolphins both ways.

2339
01:48:42,034 --> 01:48:45,674
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cardinals road ups.

2340
01:48:45,714 --> 01:48:47,834
Speaker 5: They are all over the board in this game. Dog

2341
01:48:48,474 --> 01:48:51,954
Speaker 5: upset two, Arizona's out right, one two split it down

2342
01:48:51,994 --> 01:48:53,474
Speaker 5: the middle, and one Miami out right.

2343
01:48:53,554 --> 01:48:57,154
Speaker 4: Yeah. I still take the Cardinals in this game. Their

2344
01:48:57,194 --> 01:48:59,274
Speaker 4: offense isn't what I thought it was going to be,

2345
01:48:59,434 --> 01:49:01,674
Speaker 4: but I think they get back on track this week

2346
01:49:03,514 --> 01:49:07,834
Speaker 4: one o'clock on Fox, the four and three Falcons are

2347
01:49:07,874 --> 01:49:10,354
Speaker 4: at the four and three Buccaneers.

2348
01:49:11,074 --> 01:49:14,234
Speaker 5: Let Baker bake Atlanta by two and a half.

2349
01:49:14,314 --> 01:49:16,634
Speaker 2: Baker Bacon to the other team is what he's been Bacon.

2350
01:49:16,874 --> 01:49:19,954
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm an interception records Bacon.

2351
01:49:20,074 --> 01:49:21,914
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna ride the roller coaster though. I'm gonna

2352
01:49:21,914 --> 01:49:23,914
Speaker 6: take Tampa at home. Lay the points.

2353
01:49:25,314 --> 01:49:28,154
Speaker 5: You're getting points Atlanta both ways.

2354
01:49:28,154 --> 01:49:30,794
Speaker 6: For Alex Oh said Atlanta's favorite.

2355
01:49:30,514 --> 01:49:31,794
Speaker 5: Atlanta's favored by two and a half.

2356
01:49:31,834 --> 01:49:32,594
Speaker 4: Sorry, thank you.

2357
01:49:33,314 --> 01:49:36,154
Speaker 2: I took Atlanta last week, I believe, and they did

2358
01:49:36,194 --> 01:49:41,114
Speaker 2: me dirty. No pun intended Minnesota. So I'm gonna take

2359
01:49:41,154 --> 01:49:42,194
Speaker 2: the Bucks at home.

2360
01:49:44,354 --> 01:49:48,354
Speaker 5: So I'm going to take Atlanta. Just too many injuries

2361
01:49:48,354 --> 01:49:51,954
Speaker 5: for the Bucks, all those receivers. I think Baker's gonna

2362
01:49:51,954 --> 01:49:52,834
Speaker 5: have a hard time Bacon.

2363
01:49:53,114 --> 01:49:54,474
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point.

2364
01:49:55,154 --> 01:49:56,073
Speaker 4: Paul is correct.

2365
01:49:56,234 --> 01:49:57,994
Speaker 2: He is correct, falcon Ga.

2366
01:49:59,474 --> 01:50:04,474
Speaker 5: About all the injury Would you really like to change your.

2367
01:50:03,514 --> 01:50:07,434
Speaker 4: One o'clock On CBS, the four and two Eagles are

2368
01:50:07,474 --> 01:50:10,314
Speaker 4: at the three and four Bengals.

2369
01:50:09,914 --> 01:50:17,634
Speaker 5: Cincinnati by two, baby, It's same game, good game game

2370
01:50:17,674 --> 01:50:18,634
Speaker 5: on the one o'clock slate.

2371
01:50:19,594 --> 01:50:22,874
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take Cincy. Take Cincinnati, lay the points.

2372
01:50:23,674 --> 01:50:24,634
Speaker 5: Alex will as well.

2373
01:50:26,914 --> 01:50:29,714
Speaker 2: I don't take Philly in this game. And I still

2374
01:50:29,754 --> 01:50:32,674
Speaker 2: just don't really feel like the Bengals are are right.

2375
01:50:32,834 --> 01:50:34,754
Speaker 2: I don't know something weird about that.

2376
01:50:35,074 --> 01:50:37,514
Speaker 5: I think both of these teams are like in that category.

2377
01:50:37,554 --> 01:50:39,874
Speaker 5: I have the no idea what they exactly are. They

2378
01:50:39,914 --> 01:50:41,634
Speaker 5: look really good at times. I'm going to take the

2379
01:50:41,674 --> 01:50:42,914
Speaker 5: Bengals at home.

2380
01:50:43,034 --> 01:50:46,954
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles just because

2381
01:50:47,114 --> 01:50:47,514
Speaker 4: in this.

2382
01:50:47,474 --> 01:50:49,314
Speaker 5: Game, I think we know what that because is.

2383
01:50:49,394 --> 01:50:53,954
Speaker 4: Yep. And now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock,

2384
01:50:54,074 --> 01:50:57,274
Speaker 4: and it's a good time to remind everyone that it's

2385
01:50:57,314 --> 01:51:01,474
Speaker 4: going to be apple picking, cider donut and hailing, cute goat, petting,

2386
01:51:01,714 --> 01:51:05,314
Speaker 4: baby pig feeding, hay ride, taking kind of fall and

2387
01:51:05,394 --> 01:51:08,994
Speaker 4: it's all made possible in Massachusetts. Come to where farm

2388
01:51:09,074 --> 01:51:12,674
Speaker 4: life is the good life. Plan your trip at visit

2389
01:51:12,874 --> 01:51:17,434
Speaker 4: MA dot com. So there you go. All right, So

2390
01:51:18,594 --> 01:51:21,114
Speaker 4: we skipped over the Patriots at one o'clock. We're moving

2391
01:51:21,194 --> 01:51:24,674
Speaker 4: to four oh five on Fox. The two and five

2392
01:51:24,794 --> 01:51:28,714
Speaker 4: Saints are at the three and three Chargers the.

2393
01:51:28,754 --> 01:51:29,754
Speaker 5: Black by seven.

2394
01:51:31,674 --> 01:51:35,434
Speaker 6: Oh god, I got no idea on his what this game?

2395
01:51:35,514 --> 01:51:36,354
Speaker 6: This is a tough pick.

2396
01:51:38,114 --> 01:51:40,714
Speaker 5: You know. The Saints are like decimated.

2397
01:51:40,794 --> 01:51:43,434
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I know, that's why the spreads so bad.

2398
01:51:43,554 --> 01:51:46,874
Speaker 6: I know I'm gonna take the Chargers, but I'm gonna

2399
01:51:46,914 --> 01:51:48,714
Speaker 6: take those points for the or else.

2400
01:51:49,114 --> 01:51:51,114
Speaker 5: Alex is taking the lack both ways.

2401
01:51:51,314 --> 01:51:52,834
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing as dudes. I'm gonna

2402
01:51:52,834 --> 01:51:55,194
Speaker 2: take the Chargers, but I'm gonna take the Saints to cover.

2403
01:51:55,314 --> 01:51:58,034
Speaker 2: I did the Chargers last week. I actually watched a

2404
01:51:58,074 --> 01:52:00,994
Speaker 2: little bit of that game, and they are not They're

2405
01:52:01,074 --> 01:52:02,114
Speaker 2: kind of a disaster too.

2406
01:52:02,354 --> 01:52:04,634
Speaker 5: So how do you like, I didn't see one play

2407
01:52:04,674 --> 01:52:06,594
Speaker 5: of that game. This is like the danger of what

2408
01:52:06,634 --> 01:52:08,754
Speaker 5: Fred's talking about when you just read the box. How

2409
01:52:08,794 --> 01:52:10,354
Speaker 5: do they throw for like three hundred yards and not

2410
01:52:10,354 --> 01:52:11,194
Speaker 5: score any points?

2411
01:52:11,314 --> 01:52:14,194
Speaker 2: It was it was just one of those games where like,

2412
01:52:14,354 --> 01:52:16,994
Speaker 2: you know, they just keep on shooting themselves in the

2413
01:52:16,994 --> 01:52:20,074
Speaker 2: foot in scoring territory and you know, just doing weird stuff.

2414
01:52:20,074 --> 01:52:22,514
Speaker 2: They kick like six field goals. I want to say

2415
01:52:22,554 --> 01:52:23,714
Speaker 2: five or six field goals.

2416
01:52:23,794 --> 01:52:26,194
Speaker 5: It was it was fumbled at the goal line.

2417
01:52:26,274 --> 01:52:27,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rager fumbled at the goal line.

2418
01:52:28,354 --> 01:52:28,594
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2419
01:52:28,714 --> 01:52:31,074
Speaker 5: Like I want to take the Chargers both ways, but

2420
01:52:31,114 --> 01:52:32,954
Speaker 5: I kind of agree with Evan and Mike. I just

2421
01:52:33,674 --> 01:52:36,234
Speaker 5: they haven't scored, so I don't like laying a touchdown.

2422
01:52:36,514 --> 01:52:39,394
Speaker 5: I'll take the Chargers to win, but I'll take the points.

2423
01:52:39,434 --> 01:52:41,514
Speaker 5: And it was seven even seven.

2424
01:52:41,674 --> 01:52:43,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the stops are telling you something there by

2425
01:52:43,994 --> 01:52:48,754
Speaker 4: not giving you a hook. True, So seven even they're

2426
01:52:48,754 --> 01:52:51,274
Speaker 4: they're very confident that the Chargers are going to cover

2427
01:52:51,354 --> 01:52:53,754
Speaker 4: this game. They don't feel they need to give that

2428
01:52:53,914 --> 01:52:58,474
Speaker 4: half to take people off the ledge. So this is chalk.

2429
01:52:59,354 --> 01:52:59,834
Speaker 2: There you go.

2430
01:52:59,994 --> 01:53:07,073
Speaker 4: This is chalk charges both ways. Four h five on Fox,

2431
01:53:07,434 --> 01:53:12,074
Speaker 4: the five and two Bills are at the four and

2432
01:53:12,194 --> 01:53:14,074
Speaker 4: three Seahawks.

2433
01:53:13,354 --> 01:53:14,194
Speaker 2: At five and two.

2434
01:53:14,914 --> 01:53:18,834
Speaker 5: Oh I saw it Buffalo by.

2435
01:53:18,714 --> 01:53:21,234
Speaker 4: Three by three.

2436
01:53:23,474 --> 01:53:25,514
Speaker 6: Something still off to me about them. I'm gonna takes

2437
01:53:25,554 --> 01:53:28,634
Speaker 6: Seattle at home and I'm gonna get them some points

2438
01:53:28,674 --> 01:53:29,474
Speaker 6: there as a home dog.

2439
01:53:30,674 --> 01:53:32,394
Speaker 5: Alex takes Buffalo both ways.

2440
01:53:33,554 --> 01:53:36,474
Speaker 2: I can't get Seattle right every I feel like I'm

2441
01:53:36,474 --> 01:53:39,114
Speaker 2: wrong on them every single week. Probably gonna be wrong

2442
01:53:39,154 --> 01:53:41,074
Speaker 2: with them again, but I'm sticking with Josh Allen. I'll

2443
01:53:41,114 --> 01:53:42,354
Speaker 2: go at the Bills both ways.

2444
01:53:42,394 --> 01:53:42,634
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2445
01:53:42,674 --> 01:53:45,354
Speaker 5: I am the same with with Seattle every time I think,

2446
01:53:45,514 --> 01:53:47,434
Speaker 5: well they they are who we thought they were and

2447
01:53:47,634 --> 01:53:50,074
Speaker 5: win a game in Atlanta, like yeah, last week, I'm

2448
01:53:50,074 --> 01:53:52,834
Speaker 5: gonna take I'm gonna take Buffalo. I don't think it'll

2449
01:53:52,834 --> 01:53:55,034
Speaker 5: be an easy game for them in Seattle. Tough place

2450
01:53:55,074 --> 01:53:56,354
Speaker 5: to play, but I will take the Bills.

2451
01:53:56,514 --> 01:53:59,794
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my Pella pick of the week. Seahawks

2452
01:53:59,834 --> 01:54:01,834
Speaker 4: get us very good.

2453
01:54:02,194 --> 01:54:03,674
Speaker 5: I might be the only one who got it, but

2454
01:54:03,714 --> 01:54:04,274
Speaker 5: that was good.

2455
01:54:04,514 --> 01:54:09,074
Speaker 4: Seahawks get a season defining win at home, they beat the.

2456
01:54:09,034 --> 01:54:11,314
Speaker 2: Bills City say Capella, Pella.

2457
01:54:11,114 --> 01:54:16,994
Speaker 4: Pella, windows close, get it, Anderson.

2458
01:54:17,514 --> 01:54:19,394
Speaker 5: It would have been better if you said Anderson lock

2459
01:54:19,434 --> 01:54:20,034
Speaker 5: of the week, But.

2460
01:54:20,314 --> 01:54:21,474
Speaker 4: Nolla pella pick.

2461
01:54:22,914 --> 01:54:24,434
Speaker 2: I'm guy myself.

2462
01:54:25,034 --> 01:54:25,954
Speaker 4: I thinking of Anders.

2463
01:54:26,114 --> 01:54:28,074
Speaker 5: So you know, Mike rolled his eyes to you. He's

2464
01:54:28,114 --> 01:54:29,914
Speaker 5: too nice to do it while you're looking.

2465
01:54:30,834 --> 01:54:34,154
Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, yes, I would never. I would never

2466
01:54:34,874 --> 01:54:36,674
Speaker 4: Seahawks pull off the big one.

2467
01:54:37,274 --> 01:54:37,434
Speaker 24: Uh.

2468
01:54:37,834 --> 01:54:40,074
Speaker 4: You know, the window has to start closing eventually, so

2469
01:54:40,154 --> 01:54:41,914
Speaker 4: I got to start picking against them.

2470
01:54:42,154 --> 01:54:42,314
Speaker 5: Uh.

2471
01:54:42,394 --> 01:54:46,794
Speaker 4: Four CBS, the four and two Bears are at the

2472
01:54:46,834 --> 01:54:48,754
Speaker 4: five and two Commanders.

2473
01:54:48,954 --> 01:54:50,114
Speaker 5: Chicago by three.

2474
01:54:50,394 --> 01:54:55,314
Speaker 2: No Jayden dan sounding like Marcus Mariota, which.

2475
01:54:55,194 --> 01:54:59,354
Speaker 5: Kind of stinks. You want to see the man top two.

2476
01:54:59,474 --> 01:55:03,074
Speaker 4: They looked at the schedule. I want to get this matchup,

2477
01:55:03,114 --> 01:55:04,034
Speaker 4: and then they don't get it.

2478
01:55:04,074 --> 01:55:08,234
Speaker 6: I'll take Chicago fread three. I'll take Chicago.

2479
01:55:10,114 --> 01:55:13,234
Speaker 5: Alex takes Washington both ways, I'm.

2480
01:55:13,154 --> 01:55:15,914
Speaker 2: Going to take Chicago both ways as well. I don't

2481
01:55:15,994 --> 01:55:19,554
Speaker 2: have any faith in that offense without Jayden Daniels for Washington.

2482
01:55:19,674 --> 01:55:22,674
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't know because I haven't seen much

2483
01:55:22,714 --> 01:55:25,514
Speaker 5: of the Bears, but I've been told being told the

2484
01:55:25,514 --> 01:55:28,874
Speaker 5: Bears defense has actually played pretty well, so I think

2485
01:55:28,914 --> 01:55:31,514
Speaker 5: going against the backup quarterback, I'll take Chicago as well.

2486
01:55:31,554 --> 01:55:35,234
Speaker 4: So here's what happens in Washington. Oh boy, Before the game,

2487
01:55:35,354 --> 01:55:38,634
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels comes and does a team meeting, and he says,

2488
01:55:38,994 --> 01:55:42,154
Speaker 4: they're all saying it's because of a rookie quarterback. But

2489
01:55:42,194 --> 01:55:45,634
Speaker 4: I'm telling you it ain't me, it's you. You guys

2490
01:55:45,674 --> 01:55:48,714
Speaker 4: are gonna win this game without me. And they come

2491
01:55:48,794 --> 01:55:51,394
Speaker 4: and they play well and they beat the Bears.

2492
01:55:52,554 --> 01:55:54,394
Speaker 6: I got chills right there. I got chills.

2493
01:55:54,554 --> 01:55:58,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, me, it's you. I invented It's not you, it's.

2494
01:55:58,114 --> 01:56:00,354
Speaker 6: Me, all right.

2495
01:56:00,514 --> 01:56:03,394
Speaker 4: So now we go to four twenty five CBS. The

2496
01:56:03,594 --> 01:56:07,714
Speaker 4: one and six Panthers are at the four and three Broncos.

2497
01:56:07,954 --> 01:56:12,554
Speaker 4: Where are they playing at home? It's unbelievable, you have,

2498
01:56:12,874 --> 01:56:14,794
Speaker 4: I mean, how the league has gotten away with this

2499
01:56:14,874 --> 01:56:16,994
Speaker 4: for thirty years. It's unbelievable.

2500
01:56:17,674 --> 01:56:17,834
Speaker 17: You know.

2501
01:56:17,994 --> 01:56:19,914
Speaker 5: The worst thing is it's Fred's favorite team too. The

2502
01:56:19,914 --> 01:56:21,954
Speaker 5: Broncos used to be geez.

2503
01:56:23,674 --> 01:56:25,874
Speaker 6: I'll take it to Denver. I'm gonna have to lay

2504
01:56:25,914 --> 01:56:28,674
Speaker 6: those Oh Bryce Young, by the way, yeah, yeah, now

2505
01:56:28,674 --> 01:56:31,434
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lay the points Denver. That's a big spread.

2506
01:56:32,474 --> 01:56:35,034
Speaker 5: Alex takes Denver, but she's taking the nine and a half.

2507
01:56:35,914 --> 01:56:38,594
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the same thing. Bryce Young has an

2508
01:56:38,634 --> 01:56:40,874
Speaker 2: okay game for the Panthers in this one. I think

2509
01:56:41,114 --> 01:56:45,034
Speaker 2: you heard it here first. Nothing special, just okay.

2510
01:56:46,074 --> 01:56:50,194
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Denver both ways. That I just can't

2511
01:56:50,514 --> 01:56:51,834
Speaker 5: pick the Panthers right even.

2512
01:56:51,994 --> 01:56:54,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you take the Broncos to win this game,

2513
01:56:54,794 --> 01:56:57,274
Speaker 4: but you take those points, those nine and a half points.

2514
01:56:57,554 --> 01:56:59,274
Speaker 4: That hook is the difference.

2515
01:57:00,114 --> 01:57:03,674
Speaker 5: Brings you back, Yeah, brings you back.

2516
01:57:03,754 --> 01:57:09,914
Speaker 4: Mike Cbs, the six and oh Chiefs the only undefeated

2517
01:57:09,954 --> 01:57:13,274
Speaker 4: team left, and the two and five Raiders.

2518
01:57:13,474 --> 01:57:14,954
Speaker 5: Kansas City by nine and a half.

2519
01:57:16,034 --> 01:57:23,154
Speaker 6: Shoes, I'm definitely picking Kansas City. Yeah, I'm not. I'm

2520
01:57:23,194 --> 01:57:24,914
Speaker 6: not messing with those points. I'll lay them.

2521
01:57:25,994 --> 01:57:28,154
Speaker 5: Alex is Kansas City both ways.

2522
01:57:28,794 --> 01:57:30,994
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the same thing, Kansas City both ways.

2523
01:57:31,074 --> 01:57:33,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna be with the with you guys.

2524
01:57:33,954 --> 01:57:36,034
Speaker 4: Casey Chiefs moved to seven and oh.

2525
01:57:36,114 --> 01:57:39,074
Speaker 5: No division game doesn't matter anymore, Okay, moving.

2526
01:57:38,794 --> 01:57:42,074
Speaker 4: On, it's sometimes it does. It's about the feel.

2527
01:57:42,274 --> 01:57:44,274
Speaker 5: Moving on, It's about the feel for the league.

2528
01:57:45,114 --> 01:57:49,834
Speaker 4: Eight thirty on Sunday night, and be sure Telemundo and

2529
01:57:50,034 --> 01:57:53,874
Speaker 4: Universo m Peacock, the n Peacock. The three and three

2530
01:57:53,914 --> 01:57:57,714
Speaker 4: Cowboys are at the three and four forty nine.

2531
01:57:57,634 --> 01:57:59,954
Speaker 5: Ers San Francisco by foe.

2532
01:57:59,994 --> 01:58:02,754
Speaker 2: That's its price.

2533
01:58:02,834 --> 01:58:06,954
Speaker 6: Oh boy, I don't know. Didn't like, didn't like what

2534
01:58:06,994 --> 01:58:09,114
Speaker 6: I saw from San Francis.

2535
01:58:09,474 --> 01:58:11,594
Speaker 5: Job coaching for a job.

2536
01:58:11,714 --> 01:58:13,674
Speaker 6: They're up against it. I'm gonna say they bounce back.

2537
01:58:13,674 --> 01:58:15,114
Speaker 6: I'll take San fran later points.

2538
01:58:17,394 --> 01:58:19,394
Speaker 5: Alex takes San Francisco both ways.

2539
01:58:19,954 --> 01:58:20,834
Speaker 4: This is a tough one.

2540
01:58:20,914 --> 01:58:23,074
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna can ever make a pick?

2541
01:58:23,154 --> 01:58:26,514
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, that's it? Yeah, go ahead and then me okay,

2542
01:58:26,554 --> 01:58:32,314
Speaker 4: go ahead, okay. Evan wanted me to say what I

2543
01:58:32,354 --> 01:58:33,794
Speaker 4: was gonna do so that he could copy me.

2544
01:58:33,834 --> 01:58:36,514
Speaker 2: That's true. It's a good point, so true. I'm gonna

2545
01:58:36,554 --> 01:58:38,714
Speaker 2: go forty nine ers both ways. I'm surprised that it's

2546
01:58:38,754 --> 01:58:39,194
Speaker 2: only four.

2547
01:58:39,674 --> 01:58:43,834
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Dallas defense with all those guys out, Yeah,

2548
01:58:44,434 --> 01:58:46,234
Speaker 5: San Francisco both ways.

2549
01:58:47,794 --> 01:58:51,754
Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna take those points, Paul, Okay,

2550
01:58:52,154 --> 01:58:53,074
Speaker 4: take those points.

2551
01:58:53,354 --> 01:58:54,474
Speaker 5: That's where you're leading the way.

2552
01:58:54,554 --> 01:58:56,834
Speaker 4: I love it when the Cowboys lose, and they will,

2553
01:58:57,234 --> 01:58:59,634
Speaker 4: but they're gonna cover the spread.

2554
01:59:00,674 --> 01:59:03,234
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say if they cover the spread, they

2555
01:59:03,234 --> 01:59:03,834
Speaker 5: went out.

2556
01:59:03,674 --> 01:59:06,074
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, if it's possible, I was thinking of taking

2557
01:59:06,114 --> 01:59:06,634
Speaker 4: them out right.

2558
01:59:07,154 --> 01:59:07,554
Speaker 5: I don't think.

2559
01:59:07,594 --> 01:59:09,714
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like the forty nine ers are like

2560
01:59:09,914 --> 01:59:11,314
Speaker 4: on a hot streak either.

2561
01:59:11,634 --> 01:59:13,994
Speaker 5: No Monday Night eight.

2562
01:59:13,994 --> 01:59:23,114
Speaker 4: Fifteen ESPN, ABC, ESPN two, ESPN Plus and ESPN Deportes. Uhcock, No,

2563
01:59:23,834 --> 01:59:26,914
Speaker 4: it's sea not this time what. I'm glad they're not

2564
01:59:26,994 --> 01:59:29,834
Speaker 4: doing the double header. I don't like the double header anymore.

2565
01:59:29,874 --> 01:59:31,554
Speaker 4: If you're gonna do a double header, start one at

2566
01:59:31,634 --> 01:59:33,954
Speaker 4: seven and then the other one at eight thirty, not

2567
01:59:34,074 --> 01:59:37,514
Speaker 4: nine to fifteen. Remember the old Monday night football first

2568
01:59:37,554 --> 01:59:40,554
Speaker 4: start o'clock. They start at nine to fifteen. The kickoff.

2569
01:59:41,794 --> 01:59:43,834
Speaker 2: Too late, got gret l Well.

2570
01:59:43,834 --> 01:59:45,914
Speaker 5: I just don't like it. Last week when they put

2571
01:59:45,914 --> 01:59:48,394
Speaker 5: the game on the SPN Plus, you can't click back and.

2572
01:59:48,354 --> 01:59:51,994
Speaker 2: Forth, right, I knew that was CONN Right now.

2573
01:59:51,514 --> 01:59:53,874
Speaker 5: When you have the double header, like the beauty of

2574
01:59:53,954 --> 01:59:57,074
Speaker 5: that is I can watch them both back. But now

2575
01:59:57,114 --> 01:59:58,674
Speaker 5: if I have to pick one of the games, if

2576
01:59:58,714 --> 01:59:59,554
Speaker 5: you're going to put one on a.

2577
01:59:59,914 --> 02:00:02,274
Speaker 6: Platform, I totally understood this was America.

2578
02:00:02,474 --> 02:00:06,354
Speaker 5: I thought this was America. Too many Pittsburgh by six

2579
02:00:06,394 --> 02:00:06,874
Speaker 5: and a half.

2580
02:00:07,154 --> 02:00:09,754
Speaker 4: Two and five Giants at the five and two Steelers,

2581
02:00:09,794 --> 02:00:10,914
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh by six.

2582
02:00:11,434 --> 02:00:13,794
Speaker 2: Such a fun game to Russ Cook.

2583
02:00:14,274 --> 02:00:15,034
Speaker 6: Give me this.

2584
02:00:15,194 --> 02:00:17,194
Speaker 5: Let's see how many moon balls rusk and throw that

2585
02:00:17,314 --> 02:00:19,994
Speaker 5: hit the Jets first and ended up in George Pickens's hands.

2586
02:00:20,034 --> 02:00:20,634
Speaker 6: I'll take it.

2587
02:00:21,314 --> 02:00:23,474
Speaker 2: That's a good player, though, George Pickens.

2588
02:00:23,194 --> 02:00:27,914
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh both ways. Alex is with Mike.

2589
02:00:29,274 --> 02:00:31,154
Speaker 2: I am as well. I feel like this is a

2590
02:00:31,194 --> 02:00:35,154
Speaker 2: game that Daniel Jones against the Steelers defense is like

2591
02:00:35,234 --> 02:00:38,194
Speaker 2: deer in headlights. So I'm taking Steelers, Danielle.

2592
02:00:39,314 --> 02:00:42,154
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna I don't know why I'm gonna take

2593
02:00:42,194 --> 02:00:44,194
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh to win the game, but I'll take the points.

2594
02:00:44,474 --> 02:00:47,674
Speaker 5: I really have no rational explanation as to why. Just

2595
02:00:47,714 --> 02:00:49,554
Speaker 5: want of Fred Kersh's feels.

2596
02:00:49,834 --> 02:00:52,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Pittsburgh both ways

2597
02:00:52,594 --> 02:00:57,514
Speaker 4: in this game. All right. Now we move back to

2598
02:00:57,954 --> 02:01:02,674
Speaker 4: Sunday at one on CBS. The two and five Jets

2599
02:01:02,874 --> 02:01:05,954
Speaker 4: at the one and six Patriots.

2600
02:01:05,514 --> 02:01:10,154
Speaker 6: Jets by seven, Jets by seven. Yeah, hard to pick

2601
02:01:10,154 --> 02:01:13,234
Speaker 6: the Patriots after that performance last week. I'm gonna have

2602
02:01:13,234 --> 02:01:15,434
Speaker 6: to do it. I'm gonna have to pick the Jets. Unfortunately,

2603
02:01:16,274 --> 02:01:18,074
Speaker 6: I'll take them thirty to twenty.

2604
02:01:19,874 --> 02:01:21,594
Speaker 5: Alex picks the Jets both ways.

2605
02:01:22,834 --> 02:01:25,874
Speaker 2: I'm also gonna take the Jets. I think that what

2606
02:01:25,994 --> 02:01:29,554
Speaker 2: scares me more, honestly, is Rogers and the offense against

2607
02:01:29,594 --> 02:01:33,154
Speaker 2: the Patriots defense. I think that the Patriots offense will

2608
02:01:33,154 --> 02:01:35,754
Speaker 2: have some moments in this game with Drake may So

2609
02:01:36,394 --> 02:01:38,234
Speaker 2: it was twenty four to three last time. I'm gonna

2610
02:01:38,234 --> 02:01:43,634
Speaker 2: say twenty four to fourteen this time. Jets.

2611
02:01:43,714 --> 02:01:47,554
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm with the boys. I think

2612
02:01:47,554 --> 02:01:50,874
Speaker 5: there's a huge talent discrepancy here, even if the Jets

2613
02:01:50,874 --> 02:01:52,714
Speaker 5: are missing a lot of those pieces they were missing

2614
02:01:52,794 --> 02:01:56,954
Speaker 5: last week. On defense, I think they'll have enough, and

2615
02:01:57,554 --> 02:01:59,114
Speaker 5: I don't like what I've seen from the defense. I

2616
02:01:59,114 --> 02:02:02,394
Speaker 5: think Evan's right, you know. I think Aaron Rodgers will

2617
02:02:02,434 --> 02:02:03,554
Speaker 5: be able to throw it, and I think they'll be

2618
02:02:03,594 --> 02:02:06,714
Speaker 5: able to run it once they established the lead. I'm

2619
02:02:06,714 --> 02:02:10,234
Speaker 5: going to go twenty seven sixteen Jets.

2620
02:02:10,714 --> 02:02:12,594
Speaker 4: The future on Mayo, do you put a call into

2621
02:02:12,714 --> 02:02:15,394
Speaker 4: Robert Sala this week and say, hey, any he.

2622
02:02:15,434 --> 02:02:18,114
Speaker 2: Actually is in an advisor role now with a different team.

2623
02:02:18,194 --> 02:02:18,914
Speaker 2: Oh is he so?

2624
02:02:19,154 --> 02:02:20,514
Speaker 4: Okay? I guess he can't do that.

2625
02:02:20,554 --> 02:02:22,674
Speaker 2: I can't remember off the top of my head which team.

2626
02:02:22,474 --> 02:02:24,514
Speaker 4: It is, but I'm at Green Bay, wasn't.

2627
02:02:24,274 --> 02:02:26,874
Speaker 2: He might have been green San Francisco, right, I think

2628
02:02:26,914 --> 02:02:27,474
Speaker 2: it's Green Bank.

2629
02:02:27,674 --> 02:02:28,794
Speaker 5: He came from San Francisco.

2630
02:02:28,834 --> 02:02:30,234
Speaker 4: No, I know, but he was seen at the Green

2631
02:02:30,274 --> 02:02:37,994
Speaker 4: Bay practice. Okay, So six and a hey you say seven? Seven? Yeah,

2632
02:02:38,034 --> 02:02:41,274
Speaker 4: Patriots don't win the game, but they cover thirty to

2633
02:02:41,394 --> 02:02:45,674
Speaker 4: twenty four. So we come out of this game st

2634
02:02:46,474 --> 02:02:51,434
Speaker 4: excited about Drake May So, so there you go. All right,

2635
02:02:52,114 --> 02:02:55,034
Speaker 4: So that's the picks, that's the show. That's the week.

2636
02:02:55,914 --> 02:02:59,234
Speaker 4: Catch twenty two coming up any minute now, so stay

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02:02:59,274 --> 02:03:03,794
Speaker 4: tuned for Alex and Evan pregame Social back to its

2638
02:03:03,834 --> 02:03:08,074
Speaker 4: normal time at ten forty five. Correct, right, and and

2639
02:03:08,674 --> 02:03:11,234
Speaker 4: Harty's he's not back and he's not back.

2640
02:03:11,474 --> 02:03:13,954
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, we'll find someone to do with this.

2641
02:03:14,034 --> 02:03:17,834
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll find somebody. Yeah, all right, we'll see you

2642
02:03:17,914 --> 02:03:18,554
Speaker 4: next Tuesday.

2643
02:03:19,514 --> 02:03:23,354
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Speaker 2: And I'm usually into the numbers.

2655
02:04:02,114 --> 02:04:02,914
Speaker 5: Okay, we do this all time.

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02:04:02,914 --> 02:04:04,554
Speaker 4: I mean to any tangible numbers.

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Speaker 5: There's there's time here. Just give me.

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2660
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