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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast dropped out of the school

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Speaker 1: of hard knocks. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? How exciting?

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Speaker 1: Today's podcast sponsored of course by Hyundai, driven Jesus not

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Speaker 1: sponsored driven by Hyundai? Are the suits coming from me? Said?

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Speaker 1: You caught yourself just in time? Yeah, okay, good um.

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Speaker 1: This is a this is a special show. There's there's

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Speaker 1: some unfinished business put it that way that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tend to on today's show. And I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the resolution is going to be positive or negative, but

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Speaker 1: we're I'm just coming out say I'm not gonna have

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Speaker 1: one car brother in today. We're gonna have both car brothers,

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Speaker 1: David and Studio Derek via satellite slash Skype, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna work out this this situation Greg, which is both

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Speaker 1: of us being blocked and we're gonna see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I listen and Mark, you if here the third brother, Hector,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be a little he's banged in a big spot.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he's probably blocked us as well after he

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Speaker 1: here's this podcast. Mark, you said before the show that

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Speaker 1: that you felt that this would be a potential gravel scenario.

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Speaker 1: I don't plan on graveling. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a real converce. Well, no, you said that you you

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Speaker 1: don't plan on groveling, And I said any further, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've wrangled these guys in studio to essentially unblock you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's from where from where you take it?

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Speaker 1: From here is how how you'll be judged. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: how you. It's all about how you perceive it. I'm

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Speaker 1: not having Derek on the show to unblock us. I'm

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Speaker 1: having Derek on the show. We gotta talk like that

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Speaker 1: to talk, it's a piece of chord, potentially man to man.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I can only speak for myself. Gregg. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll grovel, I don't know. I will definitely not grovel,

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Speaker 1: don't you know. I felt I feel like if he

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Speaker 1: wanted to block us, he should be allowed to block

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Speaker 1: us in peace. That was my initial Craig has seemed

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Speaker 1: that's how I don't want if if I chose to

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Speaker 1: gotta take your block. I don't. I am curious, certainly

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Speaker 1: to find out what we did. And I have my

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Speaker 1: that out Derek and and and see if if it's right.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think for me, maybe what has

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Speaker 1: stuck with me is if you're gonna take a block,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take a block. But I'd like to know why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even find I didn't even follow

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter, so it's same here. It was it stunning,

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Speaker 1: truly stunning. And I knew he didn't follow me either

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Speaker 1: before the block. I think there's at least, you know,

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Speaker 1: the old chance here that he doesn't know why he

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Speaker 1: blocked you. And yeah, you're not gonna be satisfied. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's ninety nine five five there, But we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a new one to you. Hear twenty a

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing five back like you brought Dean screen. I

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Speaker 1: a hundred? Yes? It is? Is it? I thought? I

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Speaker 1: a little later in the show, we'll have the car

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Speaker 1: Brothers on and talk. We're gonna talk. Nothing else can

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Speaker 1: be promised. We will also welcome into the studio. This

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Speaker 1: is exciting, lanzer Line, one of the NFL Network NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Uh, Draft Gurus draft now eight days away. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so Lance will come in and uh we'll chat with

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Speaker 1: that's today's show, by the way, said, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great excited? Are you excited about this? Buzz? Well,

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Speaker 1: it could go anyway, really said, And Sid did all

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Speaker 1: positive for now. Let's do the news. Leave Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: And the first bit of Patriot news is as grim

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Speaker 1: He died the early Wednesday morning after hanging himself in

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Speaker 1: No one would ever believe this that. Dan Wetzel wrote

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Speaker 1: be a total lock to make the team. But injuries

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Speaker 1: can happen all that, I mean, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: can happen. Mark, how come you said pay decrease in

430
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Speaker 1: not haircut. How come you weren't getting in the haircut buzzword?

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Speaker 1: My apologies, No, I don't apologies that. I actually like

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Speaker 1: the idea of it being called a haircut much more

433
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Speaker 1: than to pay decrease. So bad on me. Mike and

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Speaker 1: Mark got a nice haircut recently. I think it looks good.

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Speaker 1: You want to you your little lady and the Venice

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Speaker 1: Boulevard and different person every time, so I wouldn't rise

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Speaker 1: it as a little lady. You like the ladies with

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Speaker 1: the clippers over there, don't you. It's mostly female people

439
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Speaker 1: that cut hair over there. Yeah. I like the price

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Speaker 1: and I like I like the whole vibe of the place.

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Speaker 1: Clip clip clip. Yeah, it's like give me a break.

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Speaker 1: Next up, little Hard Knocks dock Oh yeah, well yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: you could read all about it an NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: The end around column of the week is on the

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Speaker 1: tam By Bay Buccaneers being named uh. They announced it

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Speaker 1: in a press conference today. They are the Hard Knocks

447
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Speaker 1: team this this August on HBO five episodes starting August

448
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: eight through September five, and um to me a welcome

449
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: a choice. I think we're all in agreement on that

450
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Speaker 1: as the Bucks as a team that's on the rise potentially,

451
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Speaker 1: whereas last season where you really there was a sense

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Speaker 1: of dread and a dark cloud hanging over the l

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Speaker 1: A Rams even as Hard Knocks was ongoing. It just

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Speaker 1: didn't nothing felt right, not about that season in terms

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Speaker 1: of an entertainment product, not with that team, not with

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Uh And with the Bucks it's it's

457
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Speaker 1: a different vibe. I think it's Greg. This is a

458
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Speaker 1: good choice. I know you love the Bucks, so you

459
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Speaker 1: have to be happy about this. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: perfect choice. You know, Dirk Cotter doesn't get me excited,

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Speaker 1: so you would want it. Great head coach so that.

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Speaker 1: But he could be he still could be quotable. He

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Speaker 1: could be a guy who dropped, you know, dropped someth

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Speaker 1: um so he can sneak up on you. But Jamis

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Speaker 1: Winston I think will be a fun player to watch

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Speaker 1: for the five weeks. I think de Sean Jackson is

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Speaker 1: a delight to add to this mix. You possibly have

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Speaker 1: the Doug Martin redemption. Sorry going on, I got a tweet.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's accurate, so you guys can

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Speaker 1: fill me in. Is Doug Martin allowed to be at

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Speaker 1: the training camp. Okay, that's what I thought. Even though

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Speaker 1: he suspended, I got some erroneous information on Twitter. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I think the piece I wrote I had

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Speaker 1: the Jamis Winston show. I think he is basically catnip

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Speaker 1: for the Hard Knocks producers. If they can have a young,

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Speaker 1: charismatic cord quarterback, it's almost like getting an early round

477
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Speaker 1: fantasy draft pick where you get David Johnson or somebody

478
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Speaker 1: like that, and you have that sense of security. At

479
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Speaker 1: least I got this guy. So he's a talker, he's

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Speaker 1: fun if you watch some of his pep speed Pep

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Speaker 1: talks to his team. And he's also an imperfect guys.

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Speaker 1: We know both his off the field stuff and even

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Speaker 1: recently when he tried to give some advice to the

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Speaker 1: youth of America that classroom and told girls to know

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Speaker 1: their place in society. It seemed so he It makes

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Speaker 1: him maybe not a perfect man, but a perfect subject

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Speaker 1: for this type of documentary treatment. I'm looking forward to that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm also looking forward to guys. You know this West,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Dad, He's excited about. TVs Tavas are back,

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Speaker 1: Mike Smith's back in the picture. The Kicker competition, Kicker

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Speaker 1: competition on premium cable that I cannot I cannot tell

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Speaker 1: you how excited when it clicked in my mind yesterday

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Speaker 1: while he was writing this piece that we're going to

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Speaker 1: actually get it, boots on the ground viewpoint of this.

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Speaker 1: Think about it, Greg, think about it. You have Nick

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Speaker 1: Folk who got as you wrote about recently, uh fifty

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Speaker 1: k guaranteed that almost seems like a guarantee. Is he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make the team burto Iguayo a second round pick,

499
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Speaker 1: arguably in danger of becoming one of the worst bus

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Speaker 1: in the last thirty years. I hate this for for him,

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Speaker 1: on him, Well, that's what I'm gonna say, coming out

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Speaker 1: of what happened last season where all this stuff on

503
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Speaker 1: camera was such a mess, He's already gonna be under

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Speaker 1: the microscope now he's on HBO, and if there's any

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Speaker 1: sort of blip on the radar, he's it's playing out

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Speaker 1: every week in front of all sorts of people that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't even be watching it otherwise, people that love the

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Speaker 1: show because it's great entertainment, and it just puts him

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Speaker 1: right in the pressure cooker even that much more good television.

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Speaker 1: Terrible for the person we have, but good for Telesion,

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Speaker 1: good for television. Jason light who who pulled the trigger

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Speaker 1: on that decision to draft Aguil. There is a scenario

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Speaker 1: weston play where cameras are in his office when he

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Speaker 1: tells Roberto Oguayo, sorry, man, this is not gonna work out.

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Speaker 1: We both got banged in a big spot here and

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Could make for riveting television. It might be

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Speaker 1: your favorite scene since Chad Johnson was cut. That was

518
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Speaker 1: That was great TV two is I mean the circumstances

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Speaker 1: around Johnson's domestic violence, inc. And it made it kind

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Speaker 1: of not a great situation, but great television to watch.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of things. Jerald McCoy, even with his

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Speaker 1: kind of surprising comments this week about how he kind

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Speaker 1: of puts a lot of the buck struggles in recent

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Speaker 1: years on himself. Man, he could be an interesting Guy's

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Speaker 1: eighth year never been to the playoffs, West was rolled

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Speaker 1: in his eyes a little bit when we were talking

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Speaker 1: up Winston as a camera. Look, I have one major

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Speaker 1: reservation about this fit and Dan's article talk to me

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Speaker 1: off the ledge a little bit. But if if there

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Speaker 1: if there is one reservation, it's Jamis Winston that he's

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Speaker 1: already on the brink of being one of these players

532
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Speaker 1: who every time he opens his mouth, editors across America

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Speaker 1: make writers right whatever quote it is, as if it's important.

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Speaker 1: And now once you get on hard knocks, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: seal it. Like every time Jamis Winston says a word,

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Speaker 1: we gotta write about it. He's gonna be like Victor

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Speaker 1: Cruz or baby Cam Newton Eale will have us writing

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Speaker 1: up everything. Jamis Winston says, it's not gonna be important

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Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, it's gonna be on me. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the my feeling said sing that PS is going to

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Speaker 1: be attached to Jamis Winston's name potentially by the end

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Speaker 1: of the summer, preening schmo, Oh don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that. I don't think. I think. I think Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton is a lot more manufactured and Jamis Winston is genuine.

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Speaker 1: I will say one other thing, because it seems like

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Speaker 1: a great fit in a lot of ways, but it's

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00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: we say it's a great fit, but then we like

548
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Speaker 1: we acknowledge that Dirk Cotter is a total wild card.

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Speaker 1: Mike Smith's back on HBO. I don't need that in

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Speaker 1: my life. Here, here's where the challenge lies for me.

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Speaker 1: Last year's Hard Knocks, and I understand that it was

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Speaker 1: not the most compelling group of people they've ever uh

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Speaker 1: you know, documented, but it was formulaic. It was formulaic

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00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: to me. Hard Knocks at its heights can be one

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Speaker 1: of the best, and it is the best sports documentary

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Speaker 1: show we've ever seen. But if they fall off and

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Speaker 1: they don't continue to push it and change it and

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Speaker 1: evolve it, it can become something where you can sort

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Speaker 1: of see the episode happening before it happens. And last

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Speaker 1: year with the Rams one I couldn't finish. It felt

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Speaker 1: like you could you knew what was coming with each episode.

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Speaker 1: And part of that was the l a thing. This

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Speaker 1: is a different part of the country, a different focus.

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Speaker 1: It's got a lot, they've got a lot of good

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Speaker 1: things to focus on. But you can't just mail it

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Speaker 1: and you've got to absolutely make it the best thing

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Speaker 1: you've done. You make a good point, a great point,

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Speaker 1: and I I wrote about the same thing. They kind

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Speaker 1: of drove themselves into a cul de sac last year

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Speaker 1: where it just they kind of creatively. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: that the Rams being so dreary put the entire production

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Speaker 1: into a bit of a rut, and it did feel

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Speaker 1: from the l A Vistas two, all right, what do

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Speaker 1: we do with William Hayes? Now send him to the

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Speaker 1: Dinosaur Museum. It's a little bit about send some guys

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Speaker 1: to Disneyland. It just seemed like they were checking some boxes.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is an important season. I think

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Speaker 1: for Hard Knocks in the sense that Peep there are

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Speaker 1: people that are starting to feel that way about the show,

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Speaker 1: that it maybe mixes things up and changes a little

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Speaker 1: bit of what they're doing, and hopefully that helped they

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Speaker 1: They are reliant on the teams, drama and surprises, so

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Speaker 1: if a team is a dud, then they stuck having

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Speaker 1: to manufacture some things. And I think the rams were

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Speaker 1: uniquely a dud. So if if they kind of there's

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Speaker 1: nothing they can do on some level, it's a documentary

587
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and they just got to hope that something, some fun

588
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: things happened, because the best stuff is surprising that that

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00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: stuff is organic and you want to find you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought this person was boring because of his press

591
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Speaker 1: conferences or or just who he is, and then you

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Speaker 1: find you have a complete You come out with a

593
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Speaker 1: completely different idea of this assistant coach that you've never

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Speaker 1: seen before or this player. That's when it shines. Always

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Speaker 1: the assistant coach well because because they have no mount,

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00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: they have no voice. Typically, um, alright, and finally in

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Speaker 1: the news. So that's good. I'm excited about that be

598
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Speaker 1: writing our episode recaps for the fifth straight year on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com. You're right there, Dan, that you will

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Speaker 1: be the one writing all this stuff. Wow hard Knocks

601
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Speaker 1: is on, then it will be handed to us. My

602
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: position is that this will transform him going forward as

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Speaker 1: a player we have to write about every time he

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Speaker 1: opens his mouth. Us has legitimate career concerns. Editors, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you have to be better at their jobs, is all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh, are you subtweeting people in the office again?

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Speaker 1: I will say this to any editor's face. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have to make the hard decision between being good at

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Speaker 1: your job and begging for clicks? Are you subtweeting the

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Speaker 1: very person that you were throwing praise on not one

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Speaker 1: episode ago? Look, David Eally does an excellent job. I

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Speaker 1: would say, sometimes you have to check yourself. Anybody at

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Speaker 1: any job has to check themselves and say am I

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Speaker 1: doing this to the best of my ability. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, I am so happy that I'm not Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling's editor, that you can get on this man's radar

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Speaker 1: and he will be You gotta be able to take

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Speaker 1: the heat. No one said I was gonna be easy,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be right. You don't put out crap

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Speaker 1: articles about me. All Right, here we go, finally in

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Speaker 1: the news. Uh, here we are again in fact sex.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it out of the way. One of my

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Speaker 1: favorite tropes um is veteran ex colon. I haven't been

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Speaker 1: this healthy in years article eight of the ten trope commandments,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers invoked that this week at Packers O

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Speaker 1: T A. S. But he also made a reference that's

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Speaker 1: making me think hard whether we need to break out

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Speaker 1: this specific sub trope into its own commandment. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about is quarterback at x Quit's offseason golfing

630
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Speaker 1: too better to better? Um, how do you how do

631
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Speaker 1: you put it to better maximized? To maximize his his

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Speaker 1: his reps and his maximize his preparation for a new season.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who last year dropped us with the trope

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Speaker 1: that he had um he was living by the eight

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Speaker 1: twenty rule. Do you remember this should should be absolutely well?

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Speaker 1: Probably yeah, I mean that sounds like a lot more fun.

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Speaker 1: But eight twenty rule was eat healthy eight percent of

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Speaker 1: the time, the other twenty eat whatever you want. He

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Speaker 1: dropped that last year and was motivated and inspired by

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady in fact, and it caused him to enter

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Speaker 1: camp under two pounds now he uh, He says, I

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Speaker 1: put in a lot of work in this offseason. As

643
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Speaker 1: much as I love golf, it's kind of taken a

644
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Speaker 1: back seat to my workouts. And I'm in light. I'm

645
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Speaker 1: as light as I've ever been coming back at this

646
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Speaker 1: time of year. How about Mark, if he maybe gets

647
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Speaker 1: involved with your beach body fest, why not how about

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Speaker 1: replace something that is making you a little doughey? If

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Speaker 1: that's what he was saying he was last year and

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Speaker 1: replacing that with getting into prime fitness, why would you not, aim,

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Speaker 1: I don't get any quarterback with an eight twenty rule.

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Speaker 1: I realized he dumped that at some point. But you

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Speaker 1: have the chance. It's You're already got anointed by many

654
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Speaker 1: is the greatest quarterback. Some feel the way about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with an eight twenty rule? You

656
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Speaker 1: got the chance to be the best quarterback on the planet.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about twenty percent of time. I'll eat whatever

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Speaker 1: I want. Get your act together. I mean, I understand

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Speaker 1: for a writer or someone else, not for it, not

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Speaker 1: for the best quarterback on These are the kind of

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Speaker 1: hird truth and real motivation you get when you hire

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, as I would be fired up. I am

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Speaker 1: dealing with David Eally on another subject, and it's his

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Speaker 1: beach body workouts, and I'm dealing with him on a

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Speaker 1: do an excellent job. Though really had no idea it

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Speaker 1: was gonna be such a big part of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I get that there's plenty of time

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Speaker 1: in the off season, and their young, you know men,

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Speaker 1: why tell the what to do with her? But I'm

674
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Speaker 1: always a little surprised by just about anyone in the

675
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Speaker 1: world that has time to go play golf for five

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Speaker 1: hours at a time, like multiple days, Like where did

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Speaker 1: they get this time? Couldn't you. I mean, God, I

678
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Speaker 1: used to love golf when I when I was younger,

679
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Speaker 1: and stuff that just seems it seems like an insane thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go spend six hours doing this. Why does

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Speaker 1: why does anything take anything take six hours? Well, there's

682
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Speaker 1: a reason why golf is probably at all time low

683
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Speaker 1: levels of popularity that people just can't wrap their heads

684
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Speaker 1: around devoting a day to anything anymore. So it's just

685
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Speaker 1: not that Funny would disagree. I I don't like, but

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Speaker 1: I can understand. I loved I loved playing it when

687
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Speaker 1: I was younger. It just seems like a crazy, crazy

688
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: thing to do grown up. Nine holes Part three, I'm fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give me some beer in a way we go take

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Speaker 1: the beer part Cat, while one last, that'd be fun.

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00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: We could just strike beer together walking on the grass

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Speaker 1: and Cat, you can have two caddies double up the

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Speaker 1: caddies play. All right, here we go, we'll play. I'll

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Speaker 1: be cad, but I'm gonna come with a lot of advice. Craig,

695
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Speaker 1: I'm not coming a lot of beer. Dan, all right, perfect,

696
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Speaker 1: And one last thing before before we move on to Lance,

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Speaker 1: I want to address something that popped up a lot

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Speaker 1: on social media. After our Monday show, h people said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: how you're from a cold town and you don't know

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Speaker 1: of coal apparently, And I have something to say about that.

702
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Speaker 1: Where I'm from, coal was cold. It gave us life

703
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Speaker 1: and it took it away, kept the lights turned on

704
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Speaker 1: and my daddy coughing all through the night. Cold man.

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Speaker 1: The author site technicians they could be found on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the river, behind the big houses in

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Speaker 1: the in the fancy cadillacs. Nah, I don't know anthracite.

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Speaker 1: I know cold. Uh and Cole really sold it with

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Speaker 1: the Phoe Neil Young in the background. I was going

710
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Speaker 1: for springste and I wanted to use the river. But

711
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Speaker 1: we have these arcane, horrific rights issues or or you know,

712
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Speaker 1: like anyone listening could just magically use Google to find

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Speaker 1: out your town produces no coal, just like you used

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Speaker 1: Google to find out what anthracite is. Oh, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say, just like the people who tweeted you used

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Speaker 1: Google to find out whether anthracite was Yeah, I think

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00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: you put the issue to bed. Dan. Everyone now accepts

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're a son of a cold man

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Speaker 1: from a coal town. There's no issues there at all.

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Speaker 1: And Greg again, not a good look. The man that

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Speaker 1: couldn't even take I'm not going to give up a

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Speaker 1: some heat about that. I saw. I did take a

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Speaker 1: lot of heat. And with it's silly because I'm embarrassed

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Speaker 1: there was no Those eggs come inside an stick pouch.

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Speaker 1: wanted to share about this topic? I will say we

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Speaker 1: inside the building about that same topic and the answer

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Speaker 1: was hazy. And I like the other shows. I was

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Speaker 1: just I was on the NFL Fantasy Live Show just today.

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Speaker 1: I like them all humble, brag and and Mark. They

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Speaker 1: they worry now that the three of us have been

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Speaker 1: on the show and you have not been on the

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Speaker 1: show yet, that it could cause some issues, that there

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Speaker 1: might be some radar issues. I would put cause into

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Speaker 1: the past. Tense caused it is causing and has caused.

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Speaker 1: But I like all the fantasy, I like all the podcasts,

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Speaker 1: but this universal I'm seeking out a statement and an explanation.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on all right now, it's time to welcome

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Speaker 1: into the studio. Maybe for the first time ever in studio,

786
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: but we've had him on a couple of times in

787
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: the last month or so because he is just a

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Speaker 1: bastion of knowledge when it comes to the draft industrial complex.

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Speaker 1: He is, of course Lands air Line, NFL draft analysts

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Speaker 1: for NFL dot Com, radio host over in Houston, and

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Speaker 1: a man that's on a cocktail of latrelle and hydro

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Speaker 1: chlora throw side if you plug into his last tweet

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Yeah, somebody said, what kind of drugs are

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Speaker 1: you off your last mark? I said, well, it was

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Speaker 1: the sexier cocktail. And coming from Houston, you've got the lean,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the but um, which I do not

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Speaker 1: I'm working on right now. Yeah. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that caused me to have Marlon Humphrey to the Eagles

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Speaker 1: or not per se. I think that's what made this

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Speaker 1: particular gentleman angry. Well, this is I mean, now we

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00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: are eight days out from the draft, and I gotta

805
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: imagine Lance, even though you you have a full time

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Speaker 1: radio gig. Also, this is light at the end of

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Speaker 1: the tunnel for you, right your dreaming of living on

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Speaker 1: the beach and you've got a big vacation planned. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure of something. You actually are very right. So if

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Speaker 1: people actually knew what what goes into this. I start,

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Speaker 1: I really start during the fall, but I can't really

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Speaker 1: get started until I get my tape, which is in

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Speaker 1: in October, and then um, you know, and then it's

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00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: a lot more in November, and so November is fairly busy,

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Speaker 1: December is very busy, January is incredibly hectic. In Februation

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Speaker 1: off the charts and I have to finish all the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl players Shrine game players in combine participants, which

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Speaker 1: are about four total guys by the combine. So it's

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Speaker 1: a race basically from November until the end of February

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Speaker 1: to get four players done. And that's watching tape on

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Speaker 1: all of them. It's studying him. It's coming up with

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Speaker 1: NFL comparisons for some of them, um strengths, weaknesses, draft grade,

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Speaker 1: the the the overall bottom line as we call the

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Speaker 1: draft profile. So it is I mean, you know, it's

825
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Speaker 1: seventy hour work weeks between that and radio, and radio's

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Speaker 1: three hours a day, so it's way more that's put

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Speaker 1: into the draft from a manpower hour, so manpower standpoint.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know it's there for a while. It'll

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Speaker 1: go sixty to seventy five hours a week for about

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Speaker 1: a six week period and it's a it's it gets

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Speaker 1: Spice Rack, who considers himself something of an expert in

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Speaker 1: this realm, is he putting in those type of hours?

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Speaker 1: And I think I don't even think he would claim

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Speaker 1: Spice Rack just watches the teams he likes to watch,

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Speaker 1: and he generally has pretty good instincts on which players

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Speaker 1: are good. But he's not grinding the tape. But it's

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Speaker 1: not impossible, like some people just have an eye for

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Speaker 1: what to look for. It look, if you know what

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Speaker 1: an NFL starter looks like. Now, now, the specifics of

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Speaker 1: on that. But you can look and see if a

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Speaker 1: guy can play. If you know what an NFL starter

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Speaker 1: looks like, if you know what a good NFL starter

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Speaker 1: and average and a blow average, you can place a

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Speaker 1: guy and say this guy is going to be an

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Speaker 1: average or above average NFL starter. Now if they say, okay,

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Speaker 1: what are his weaknesses, well you might not be able

850
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: to break them all down. But I mean, that's why

851
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: I think this fuss about it. You have to be

852
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: some kind of draft guru to know who can play

853
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. No, if you watch a lot of NFL football,

854
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what it looks like. I would offer one tape.

855
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: The world does not need any more draft gurus, should

856
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: we Just? Lance has gotta covered. We gotta cover the sticks.

857
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: You know there there's plenty of them Twitter though mostly Lance. Uh,

858
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Let's talk, because we don't. Lance

859
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: is such a busy man. They flyhim in and then

860
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: they have him running around in his fancy designer suits,

861
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: one set to another. So right now we got him

862
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in his T shirt? Is j K L McConaughey T

863
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: um so, Mark, why don't you get us going throws

864
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: something Atlantes? Let's go well here West mentioned before we

865
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: got on here that weird this group here. We're starting

866
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: our draft prep about now. Anyone tells you otherwise, well,

867
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: exactly as anyone else tells you otherwise. The lion to you.

868
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: We're digging in and I'm starting to feel things, not

869
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: based on watching any tape. I'm just feeling emotions. Longtime

870
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: suffering Brown's fan stuff starting to bubble up, and I'm

871
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: starting to get attached to Patrick Mahomes. I understand that,

872
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, volatile reactions to him. The guy's got a

873
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: cannon arm. Other people say mechanics all over the place.

874
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna take him years, maybe millennias, eons to become

875
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: an NFL starter. No one would possibly put him on

876
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: the field. But then you watch the Grooden thing with him.

877
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Gruden loves him, coached, Farv compares him to Farve, says

878
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: he has rare stuff. What's your take on him? Where

879
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: could he go? How high could he go? Mark's fired up?

880
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: I am well to me, he is exciting, That's what

881
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: he's exciting. This is just a man that cried on camera.

882
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: When they drafted Johnny Manzel, maybe not cried was credit

883
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: when it happened. It wasn't got emotional. We have it

884
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Now he's looking for the quarterback that actually

885
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: Ken leads. So just just very quickly. I was at

886
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: the fourteen draft, sitting with the draft with the fans,

887
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and when Johnny Manzel was drafted, that was a big

888
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: deal that the Texans at the first pick of the draft.

889
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I was there covernant for the radio station and for

890
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: draft purposes, and as soon as Johnny Manzel went, the

891
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: place was bananas. It was way bigger than the first pick.

892
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: It was the biggest pick of the whole draft. And

893
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: Browns fans were up there and one guy as soon

894
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: as he was picked, a lot of Brown's fans were

895
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: fans were excited and clapping, and there was one guy

896
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: up there who just said, what have we done? What

897
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: have We're done? And I've got it on tape, and

898
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: and another guys like I won't pick it wasn't Jimmy Haslum,

899
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: but um of Mahomes. I think Mahomes is a guy

900
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: that you have to first of all, he has to

901
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: prove that he can be the first quarterback outside of

902
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: Jared Golf. Still, you know, we've got to find out

903
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: that he can be the first air raid quarterback to

904
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: succeed one of the things that's a big killer. I

905
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: talked to a team that just said, Mahomes, Deshaun Watson,

906
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: they are completely lost on running game and protections, calling

907
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: protections to the offensive line. It's like at a zero

908
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: because they just don't know because they're not asked to

909
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: do it. So that's you know that, yes, it can

910
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: be learned, but it can't be learned just like that.

911
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: That is something not to mention. Footwork under center calling

912
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: plays AND's a weird stands under center from what I

913
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: saw too. Yeah, well, because he's probably not done it

914
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: because seven on seven so big. Now you're already working

915
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: from shotgun by the time you're three years old. Daniel

916
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah has got his kids at two years old working

917
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: with a throwing specialist. I mean, he's not preparing his

918
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: children properly for the future, not going to be ignored.

919
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: So no, so honestly, no, in all, in all likelihood,

920
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: I think Mahomes everyone knows, you know, he's got to

921
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: be a year away. I think any of those guys

922
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: coming out of that offense, and really in the quarterbacks

923
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: in this draft are at least a year away and

924
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: in some cases maybe two years away. Is there enough

925
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: patients in that Brown's organization to nurture a quarterback? That's

926
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: the question, not what else we got West, you got

927
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: something for the old Lance bomb. Let's stick in quarterback.

928
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: There one in the news today because John Gruden loves

929
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: him and Pittsburgh's quarterback Nathan Peterman. Lance has been writing

930
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: about him for a while. You like him. I saw

931
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins name. I think maybe you've used Derek Carr's

932
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: name with him. How good is he? And do we

933
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: overrate arm strength and athleticism in quarterback prospects? It's overrated

934
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: depending on the scheme. So if you put Peterman in

935
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: a timing based scheme um like Cleveland, Yeah, like yeah,

936
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: like like Cleveland. Absolutely. If you if there's certain teams

937
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: like Peterman isn't isn't even gonna be on the board

938
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: in all likelihood for a team like Arizona. You know

939
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: arians wants to push the ball. You need have some arm.

940
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: That's not where he would fit. You stick him with

941
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco, with the forty Niners, and Channi's offense, or

942
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: Rick Dennison in Buffalo, although he didn't have the arm

943
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: strength to to get through the bad weather. But I

944
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: think in San Francisco, you know, he could be a

945
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: potential fit. I'd have to find out about what the

946
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, what the wind stuff looks like in the

947
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: new stadium. But he's a guy that played some under center.

948
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: Did the bootleg play action, That's what he did, and

949
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: he's extremely accurate, extremely the ball placement is really fine.

950
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: He gets rid of it quickly, he gets rid of

951
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: it on time. He's not an in your face leader,

952
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: a big alpha type. But I think it's the same

953
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: thing with with Cousins in that he's not gonna be

954
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: special physically, but when you watch the mechanics of being

955
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback, he does that well. And I'm a big

956
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: fan of his. But you know, this is where the

957
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: draft guys take over the coaches and they want size,

958
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: they want arm strength, There's certain things they want. So

959
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: I think he could get pushed into the third, maybe

960
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: even fourth round. But I know Gruden really likes I

961
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: don't know what Gruden said today, but then he was

962
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: the most pro ready quarterback. Yeah, I don't think there's

963
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: any doubt about out that. I think he is absolutely

964
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the most pro ready and he's better than Josh Dobbs

965
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: and Richmond Well, I'm not even sure. I mean Davis Webb.

966
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where this is coming from. Davis Webb

967
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: up the charts, Josh Dobbs up the charts. Peterman's tape

968
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: is better than than both of those guys. And Cousins

969
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: was a guy who slipped to the fourth round despite

970
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: being a very high profile player in college. One thing

971
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: I noticed from you, you just reading between the lines,

972
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: Lance Up, you seem just like a tad. No one

973
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: wants to say anything bad about Myles Garrett. He's basically,

974
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, can't miss products. But but you seem, you know,

975
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: reading between the lines, just a little dubious of him

976
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: as a monster difference maker, as a guy that you

977
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: can just say, this is a unique talent that you

978
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: just plug him in, He's gonna be a superstar. You

979
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: seem like, you know, you're not quite convinced to that

980
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: right reading. Yeah, my my grade on him is very,

981
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: very high, but it's based on projection over production. There's

982
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: production grades and a nurse. Projection grades. Projection grades like Taco.

983
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: Charlton is higher up for me because of what I

984
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: think he can become. And but that's obviously gonna be

985
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: one of the reasons. Yeah, but um so Myles Garrett.

986
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: I think his projection, he projects very high. It's fast,

987
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: he's explosive as all the traits you want to see

988
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: in a pass rusher. I mean, he's got everything. But

989
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: then when you watch the tape, it's like, I don't

990
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: understand why he doesn't dominate here. I don't understand why

991
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: he took the first half off against L s U

992
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: and then showed up in the second half. That didn't

993
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: make sense to me when I watched it the other day.

994
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: And uh, he doesn't use his hands great. But I mean,

995
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I love the potential. I think he's got the potential

996
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: to be a transcendent player and another Julius Peppers. The

997
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: problem is there's some there's some Jed Daveon Clowney floor

998
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: going on there also where it's high, high ceiling, but

999
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: there's a little bit more floor than people probably want

1000
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: to admit to. Now. I don't think there's any doubt

1001
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: he should be the first pick of the draft, but

1002
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: there is something No so if you're if you were,

1003
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: your follow up was who would There is no one

1004
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: else that really, to me, would would fit that. But

1005
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: I do I do think there's a chance that he's

1006
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 1: not the best defensive lineman come out of this draft.

1007
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: In five years, we may not say he's the best.

1008
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I think it could be Solomon Thomas Greg nice job

1009
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: reading between the lines, though today you know you were.

1010
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: You brought up Taco Charlton and I wanna as a

1011
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: fatalistic Jets fan, they're picking six, of course, and you

1012
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: look at the top ten, who do you use like

1013
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: the biggest boom or bus guy? Because I think Charlton

1014
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: might fall in that category. Some people can't seem to

1015
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: to put a peg on whether he's a guy that

1016
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: will be a stud or could could go the other

1017
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: way entirely. Who are the guys that teams are privately

1018
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: afraid of making a big time investment in Tacos one? Yeah,

1019
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: Tacos one. How he's not gonna go on to top ten.

1020
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I have him nine to the Bengals because that's the

1021
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: kind of guy they usually draft. I don't think he'll

1022
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: actually end up being that guy, but um, Tacos a

1023
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: boom or bus guy Um. Dalvin Cook is a boom

1024
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: or bus guy um for I think they, you know,

1025
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: the concern is when he gets more money and more

1026
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: time on his hands, how is he going Is he

1027
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: going to be a pro or or some of the

1028
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: influences off the field on him going to be you

1029
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: know an issue. Um, he would be one of them

1030
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: as well. Uh Mitch Trobiskie Mitchell Mitchell is boom or

1031
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: bust obviously, Pat Mahomes and Deshan Kaiser. I think both

1032
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: UH fall under that category here at Bowls. The tackle

1033
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: from UH and Cam Robinson really frankly from Alabama and

1034
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: from Utah, they both fall under the boom or bust

1035
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Moniker and I would say there's a little bit of

1036
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: concern about Rum and Foster from Alabama. The play is great,

1037
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: but there's some concern about physically how he holds up.

1038
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: And I think that might lead him to be boom

1039
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: or bust. Not because with Alabama defensive players every year. Yeah,

1040
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: but I'm you know, it's hey, there's a lot of

1041
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: surgeries going on after they graduate. I mean, that's that's

1042
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: not an opinion, it's just a fact. And and I

1043
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: think he's one of the guys I believe who had

1044
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: one as well. So I think that is a concern

1045
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: that that medically, you know, can he hold up. I

1046
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: don't think his play is boom or bust. I just

1047
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: think that's one where you you want to make sure

1048
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: he's you know, able to be at as long as possible.

1049
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: All Right, I need one that we got listeners all

1050
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: over the world, A very popular podcast. Yeah. As a

1051
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: matter of fact, can I tell you this, I went

1052
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: to dinner last night with a friend of mine who's

1053
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: an actor named Eric Layden. He's he's lives here at

1054
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: the USC guy who he's been in some like he's

1055
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: that guy. If you saw his face, pull pull him

1056
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: up on it, give it. Yeah, he's that guy. You say,

1057
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: we have seen that guy. Do any of you watch

1058
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: The Killing? I stayed away from that show after season one? Okay,

1059
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: then that would be okay. He was in like he

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00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: plays roles in Oh yeah, I know. He was in

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00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: The Brink and Jack Black. He was one of the

1062
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: fighter pilots. He's been in a lot of really like

1063
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: you're looking like, wow, American Sniper, Big Love, The Killing.

1064
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: He's been in a lot of great stuff playing J.

1065
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: Hoover and Boardwalk Empire. Yeah, yeah, he got the neck. Yeah,

1066
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: he got jacked up for Annabelle. So, um so he's

1067
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: so we're we're having dinner. He's a huge sports fan.

1068
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: Two so he's from Hugh and so we're having dinner

1069
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: last night and the guy comes up and he's taking

1070
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: our drink order and food and everything, and then you know,

1071
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and then he leaves, and the guy says he and

1072
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: he's he's a well, I'll tell you the thing. So

1073
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: he comes back by he goes, I'm sorry, do you

1074
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: mind if asked? Are you land ser line? And I'm like, yeah, well,

1075
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: why in the world would you know that? He said,

1076
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: I watch NFL Network and I'm a big also have

1077
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: my own podcast. As a matter of fact, Dan hansens,

1078
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: I have you know he comes he's coming to public school.

1079
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know. He's a good guy. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: and he's a big fan of this uh podcast and

1081
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: uh so he's got his own podcast. So I just thought,

1082
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: I said, he's like, I'm also an actor. I'm like,

1083
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: and I'm really into the draft. I said, you happen

1084
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: to come to the right table as we got you

1085
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: covered on the acting front. This is Eric Laydon and

1086
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: then I'll handle the draft stuff for you. So I

1087
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: was like, are you is it really that popular? And

1088
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: he said, in fact, and this is a quote around

1089
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: the league, might be the most popular podcast right now

1090
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: of all of the podcast coming out of NFL Network

1091
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: that originate in the one to three o'clock ranch Pacific.

1092
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: That's the type of that was a quote. Goose bumps. Yeah,

1093
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: it was a quote. I'll just say that. When I

1094
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: hear that, it is like we made it guys one

1095
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: one Houston restaurant recommendation and then I know you gotta go.

1096
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Um always go with underbelly the chef. It's it's not

1097
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: fancy dress up. The chef, Chris Shepherd was a James

1098
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: Beard Award winner, which is like the Oscars of the

1099
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: food world and um all the He also opened up

1100
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: a steak place with Whitney Merciless. It's called One Fifth.

1101
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: It's a five year lease and every year they're gonna

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: rebrand to a brand new restaurant. They're gonna change. The

1103
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: first year it's a steak restaurant and it's Whitney Merciless

1104
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: is the part owner. The second year it's gonna be

1105
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: romance languages a Spanish, Italian and French foods um third

1106
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: year I think is Vietnamese, I believe, or seafood. And

1107
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: so every year there's gonna be a brand new theme,

1108
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: overly ambitious, it's very aggressive, its it's it's very alright, Lances,

1109
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: our line does great work. Follow him at lanzerline. Is

1110
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: that correct? Ye? At lanzer line, and uh, he's all

1111
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: over NFL network and dot COM's latest mock draft is

1112
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: up on NFL dot com right now. And now he

1113
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: has to leave us. But thank you very much. Alright, boys,

1114
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks all right. It was something that was

1115
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: that was teased on Twitter yesterday. Big fish. We got

1116
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: a big fish and he is a former number one

1117
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL draft. Now he is a

1118
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: analyst for NFL network. Uh and by far the most

1119
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: handsome man to be in the studio. Let's be honest, David,

1120
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Are doesn't make that awkward at all the instruction you're

1121
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: in your cave of wonders here, this is our cave

1122
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: of wonders, Uh, David, who works on the network side exclusively,

1123
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: You were taken aback a little bit. But when you

1124
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: saw the conditions in which we work in, I don't

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00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: know that you guys should have to work here. I

1126
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: think we have an advocate. Rich has a really nice

1127
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: studio down the street. You guys just go rent out

1128
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the space from him and he should give it to you.

1129
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: I think all we need you to well, you can

1130
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: make some windows here, like knocked the wall out, bring

1131
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: some natural light in. You know, I think you have

1132
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: you might have a future as an interior. You're the

1133
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: champion we've needed for four You don't want my help.

1134
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: So every anybody that listens to this podcast knows the drama,

1135
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: Um that that has unfolded. At least in my life.

1136
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Greg has distanced himself a little bit from it. But

1137
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: um a quick refresher. Derek Carr quarterback of the Oakland

1138
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Raiders and brother of David Carr. Um. We myself, Dan

1139
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: and Greg, we're stunned to learn that we were blocked

1140
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: by Derek. Stunned and we didn't know why. And we're

1141
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: like big supporter of the Raiders this season, love Derek

1142
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: as a player, and from that point it was starting

1143
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: to eat me up inside. So it's understandable. So we

1144
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: had just came over and asked me about it asidated,

1145
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, a big network star. So Lindsay who Lindsay Rhodes,

1146
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: who was an occasional UH co host guest on our

1147
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: podcast here, came in a few weeks back and we said, Hey,

1148
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: you know you're tight with David over on the studio side.

1149
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: Can you put in a word for us to see

1150
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: if maybe David would come on, and maybe Derek can

1151
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: come on. We can work this out. Let's talk it out.

1152
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: And then I got this voicemail from Lindsay a day later. Dan,

1153
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: it's Lindsay. I just wanted to let you know that

1154
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: I've done my part to help repair the damage that

1155
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: you and Greg have done to your yet to exist

1156
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: relationship with Derek Carr. I spoke to his brother yesterday.

1157
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: I told him that the two of you were prepared

1158
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: to grovel, and he seemed interested in that. Uh. He

1159
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: seemed open to intervening on your behalf as well. So

1160
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: I've given him your name. He might pass them along

1161
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: to Derek if he can remember them. So you noticed

1162
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 1: that you are miraculously unblocked in the next few days,

1163
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: then a You're welcome and be David failed because I

1164
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: told him to do nothing until he could come on

1165
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: the pod here out your argument, make you grovel a

1166
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: little bit, and then involved Derek live on the podcast

1167
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: because I'm all about promoting your content. So you're welcome.

1168
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: You guys have a good champion there. Yeah, we we

1169
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: love Lindsay. That was that was a good, good fun.

1170
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: But you guys fitting that our champion throws in four

1171
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: or five pot shots. That's perfect. So here we go.

1172
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: We want to figure out what we did wrong, and

1173
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: if you, if you could serve as as the go between. Sure, yeah,

1174
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to help. I mean, i'd love to help. You.

1175
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: Guys seem like great guys. You have a great relationship

1176
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: with your brain. I mean it's obviously come up in

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: conversation at the dinner table often and when we often

1178
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: talk about blocking people. Yes, it happens, and it certainly

1179
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: appears like you and Derek have a great relations for

1180
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: the most part, we get along pretty good, very good.

1181
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: So maybe you can help us here. I would like that.

1182
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: I would like to help you. I think that having

1183
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: no understanding of what you guys actually put out there,

1184
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a little bit in the dark.

1185
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: But that's fine. Um, I'll do this just out of

1186
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: good faith that you won't say something stupid or inappropriate

1187
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: about the Oakland Raiders or my brother, or probably about

1188
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: his children, which maybe that's what you did, because we

1189
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: would never do you would never say that. No, I'm

1190
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: just kidding. He uh yeah, he. I think he'd be

1191
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: fine with it. I think I might do something like that.

1192
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: I would never know. I know you wouldn't, dare all right,

1193
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: So why don't we do? Why don't we? Now? Geez,

1194
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: let's bring him on. Derek Carr of the Oakland Raiders.

1195
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: Are you there, Derek, I'm here, I am here. You

1196
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: shall receive there. You guys reached out to the right guy,

1197
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: because if anybody but my brother came to me, it

1198
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: would just remained a big red act. De I mean,

1199
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: I know you probably want to ask him, but I'm

1200
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of curious too, Like, what do you think they said? Dude?

1201
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm always you know, I pretty much know if I'm

1202
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna block someone, it's like whack a mole. You know,

1203
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: you got to chucky cheese. It's gonna pop their heads up,

1204
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: won't you bump back down? But what do you know

1205
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: what they said? Do you have any idea? Um? No,

1206
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: I think you probably had good reason. No, I'm sure

1207
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: he did. I definitely didn't do it for no reason.

1208
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: What happened they were probably in the conversation or something

1209
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: exactly is you probably got tagged and thrown into something

1210
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: that you just, you know, caught a right hook in

1211
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: between you know that the hook wasn't meant for you. Yeah,

1212
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm of two minds here because you know, I don't

1213
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: want to. I don't feel like I should grovel like

1214
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: like Lindsey said, I feel like at some level I

1215
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: blocked a lot of people. You should just kind of

1216
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: take your block like a man, move on like you

1217
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: know who. I don't know why I blocked. I did

1218
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: have a theory though, that I'll throw by you see

1219
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: if if this makes any sense. I was at the

1220
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Raiders playoff game, which you know, covering the game which

1221
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: you were you were not at, I believe you were

1222
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: watching it from home, and I thought, maybe because the

1223
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: Raiders are struggling on that day, the quarterbacks were certainly struggling,

1224
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: maybe I was being pretty hard on their team. I

1225
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: was wondering why Matt mcglwyn is not getting put in

1226
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. You know, it's being hard on

1227
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: the team that day. Maybe that tweet comes across your

1228
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: path that day. You're like, forget this clown, Uh going

1229
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: after my team during a playoff loss. Possible. It's it's

1230
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: it's very possible. Um that that is the case because

1231
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: those are my brothers. Um. But again, uh, we still

1232
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: have no like real proof of why I did it.

1233
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: You know that it's gonna be something that just looms

1234
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: for a while over there, something to find out why. Yeah,

1235
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of I think that was

1236
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: the thing I was most excited about. And to restore

1237
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: your hope and humanity that you know, it was just well,

1238
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: I would think I would be confident enough, and I

1239
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: don't have the money, but you're you're an NFL quarterback,

1240
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: So maybe you could put the bill on this some

1241
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: type of uh Internet like forensics type person that could

1242
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: dig through all of the data and maybe you could

1243
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: find it and then get get back to us with

1244
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: a reason what we did wrong. And he's got the time,

1245
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,959
Speaker 1: He's clearly got the time. Yeah, I'm definitely not gonna

1246
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: do that, Um, but I will I will say this like, yeah,

1247
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: because it was I don't I'm not sure where I

1248
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: got blocked either, but I did. I will make the

1249
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: statement a couple of things. I am not. I'm far

1250
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: from a perfect man. In fact, I came very close

1251
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: when I learned after supporting the Raiders. In fact, we

1252
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: do a little exercise on this podcast called the Team

1253
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: of Around the NFL, and I nominated the Raiders in

1254
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: August and pounded the table for them all year. Uh

1255
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: So I was stunned and a little bit angry and hurt.

1256
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: So what I did, I came very close to doing

1257
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: something that I only do when I'm really angry people,

1258
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: which is declare vengeance against you, Derek Carr. But then

1259
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: you kept on and this kind of annoyed me. You

1260
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: kept on committing random app acts of civic greatness, these

1261
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: like special moments where you were showing up on the

1262
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: side of the road like a celestial being, and I

1263
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: had to I kept on having to suspend any vengeance.

1264
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: So that actually maybe saved us here because I didn't

1265
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: act stupidly and I showed a little restraint, and that's

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: maybe kept the door open for a reconciliation. Absolutely, And

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: with me, the door is always open, um, you know,

1268
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: the door is always open to fix things. We had

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: a certain individual on a another network that we will

1270
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: not give them any props for it, say something completely idiotic,

1271
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: and I let him know. But to his to his credit,

1272
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: he came back and said, hey, it wasn't me that

1273
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: did that, it was something else, And so I just said, hey,

1274
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: no worries, God bless you have a great one. Um,

1275
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that I'm gonna go out of my

1276
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: way for him, but the door is always open. But

1277
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: for you guys, it was an accident. You got thrown

1278
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: into something that that wasn't yours. But I do whack

1279
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: them old people like David said, well, I know, I

1280
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: know West and I over here. We we weren't blocked.

1281
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm personally feeling a little left out. Wish you had

1282
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: locked me so you can say something crazy. I mean,

1283
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, I might have to get into the mix.

1284
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of the drama. And

1285
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: you apparently think highly of the two of us, so

1286
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you know we'll sit at that. That's okay. I've never

1287
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: we've never been blocked on this side of the table,

1288
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: identified with Derek because I used to whack a mole

1289
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: and I often don't know why I blocked people when

1290
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: they come back months later. I always figured, hey, you

1291
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: tell me why I blocked you, and then we'll talk

1292
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: about I'm blocking. It's a good point, that's exactly right,

1293
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: and that alright, how about this, we proposed this? And

1294
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: and Derek, you you seem relieved that that you and

1295
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: Dan are doing better. How about I proposed this heart Yeah,

1296
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll propose this. What if we just hit

1297
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: the reset button in terms of the Twitter situation, that's that.

1298
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll propose that, and and and and Greg and myself,

1299
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: we you know, we go into this open eyes on

1300
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: both sides, start over in terms of our relationship, not

1301
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: promising anything, not promising that you'll you know, be better.

1302
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: But I think Derek should drive a hard bargain here.

1303
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, what make you promise that the Raiders will

1304
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: be team of eight this year? There are terms there now,

1305
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: I feel like Derek for some terms back right. I mean,

1306
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: that's that's that's fine and everything. We can definitely hit

1307
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: the reset button. Um, but you have to mention something

1308
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: nice about the Raiders every time you get on the podcast.

1309
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: Every time we do three shows a week, We've done

1310
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: over five shows, that is five hundred and fifty plus

1311
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: Raiders plugs. I like opportunities for great the man drives

1312
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: a hard bargain. Even if it's a bad day, you

1313
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: gotta pat someone on the back and say something nice

1314
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: just to spread love in the world. I think we

1315
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: I think we can do that. I would, and that

1316
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 1: is my main motive spread love. Yeah, it wouldn't compromise

1317
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: the show on any level. So it's it checks out.

1318
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: Um Can I counter with one a week? One a week? One? One? Gosh?

1319
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think that every I think that. I

1320
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: think if you just start saying, like, hey, it's our podcast,

1321
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: Raiders are cool. I mean I think that that just

1322
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: goes so it's like they're replacing our sponsor. Yeah, well,

1323
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean I guess, but I mean it's not even

1324
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: have to say the Raiders. You can just say something

1325
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: nice about one of my teammates that it doesn't even

1326
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: have to be on the field stuff. It could be like, hey,

1327
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: guess what random news Khlil Max saved a kitten today.

1328
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: Couldn't be so we could just make things up. Yeah, completely.

1329
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: I prefer the truth so truthful. You want me to,

1330
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: I get it. I I get your vibe, Derek. You

1331
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: want me to put positive things out into the world.

1332
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: And if it's about the Raiders even better and if

1333
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: it's true, even better than that. Yeah, it's just that

1334
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: three times a week it has to be about the Raiders. Okay,

1335
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: all right? And who's I can agree to this? And

1336
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: then maybe I hope there's not the tracking methods. You know,

1337
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: what if I mess up, who's gonna be tracking? Well? Yourself? Again?

1338
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm starting to follow the podcast,

1339
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: So Derek, I can't help you. Liked right here. I

1340
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: suspect Raider Nation will be on top of them. They

1341
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: will make there like, Uh no, you haven't said anything

1342
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: about Rodney Hudson lately? What's up with Hudson? All right?

1343
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want, but it's just something.

1344
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: It takes two seconds just to spread love about. You know,

1345
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: some of my friends and I agree to the terms.

1346
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: I agree to the terms. All right, then you can

1347
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: consider yourself Dan unblocked. I just did it feel better?

1348
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: That feels so good? What about Greg though, Yeah, well

1349
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: I gotta type his name in. Yeah, a lot of

1350
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: Geese g R e G g Rosenthal. There we go,

1351
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: your e G. This is I got butterflies right now?

1352
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: Tell this one. Spell it for me. G R E

1353
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: G g R O S E N T H A L.

1354
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: It's got a blue checkmark. At what grade level? Did

1355
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: you learn how to spell your name? It's a long one.

1356
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: Did you ever mess it up and only put one G?

1357
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: Or did you know early on? I knew because I

1358
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: had to explain that just that closed down the name. No, Gregory,

1359
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: stop calling me Gregory, Mrs McFadden. Enough still alright, Derek,

1360
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: thank you there, greg It's done. Wow, we've done it.

1361
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: We've broken down the walls and we've start a fresh start.

1362
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: I feel I feel good for you guys. Oh God,

1363
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: spread love. That's all it's about. Many Derek, I thank you,

1364
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: and and David, I can't say enough about you. Well

1365
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just Lindsay started it.

1366
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: She came to me and you know, she's a vouches

1367
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: for somebody I'm in And all I had to do

1368
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: was make brother. That's easy, So I mean, I'm not

1369
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was a little uncomfortable with the intro

1370
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: um ay fair as we all were imagine being in

1371
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: the room. But I say that if you compliment David,

1372
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: that that would count as one of the three a week. Okay,

1373
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: get later through blood good We're doing good here. But

1374
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: but let's just draw the line and you know, let's

1375
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: not get too crazy with that one. Well with handsome

1376
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: stuff with it. Okay, I'll cut back on the handsome stuff.

1377
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: That's start of Dan's bit. You guys are awesome, man,

1378
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, thanks, thank you very much.

1379
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. All Right, David, you did it. We

1380
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: will never forget this, and we owe you a big one. Well,

1381
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's the thing that you know, I come

1382
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: here and I and I do some shows, and you

1383
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: guys are on the same campus and I can't have

1384
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: It's like when you have friends that are fighting. You

1385
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: can't have that. So you just guy. I was always

1386
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: that kid. I was like, you know what, guys, let's

1387
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: just go over here and sit on the bench and

1388
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: talk about it. We'll figure it out back in you. Yeah,

1389
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. So you great clubhouse guy. Yeah.

1390
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: So that's what we try to do here. So it's

1391
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: next stop the United Nations for you, mission accomplished in

1392
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: a mission accomplished banner. Alright, alright, you check out Derek Carr.

1393
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: First of all, you can excuse me, check out, well,

1394
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: you can check out Derek Carr on Twitter at Derek

1395
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: Carr QB. David Car on Twitter. I think it's David

1396
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: Carry eight maybe our d Car eight there isn't don't

1397
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: do it. Don't do his Twitter account wrong already Danie

1398
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: eight seconds, you know, fresh on his radar is at

1399
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: d car two RS eight for David Carr, and David

1400
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: also is on the NFL Total Access. I think they

1401
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: put you on other stuff too. They got you all

1402
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: over they do. I do a couple of the things.

1403
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: But it's uh and a good man and a fair man,

1404
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: and we thank you. We'd love to have you again

1405
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: on on talk about actual football football. Alright, No, there

1406
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: we go the Car brothers. How exciting, What a moment.

1407
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: How do you feel? David exits the studio and I

1408
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: feel reborn? I do, and I do. I granted I I,

1409
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: like I said, it meant more to me than Greg,

1410
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: but I think Greg feels a little bit a little

1411
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: different today as well. I didn't know there was a

1412
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: weight on my shoulders, but now it's off, and I

1413
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: don't even know how I'm gonna focus on being able

1414
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: to do work the rest of the day after that.

1415
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: And have you learned a little more about the power

1416
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: of forgiveness. I think, you know a good point spreading love,

1417
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: putting that positive energy out into the world. And I

1418
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: think we saw the difference between two quarterbacks in the

1419
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: four of us. All right, So that was a lot

1420
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: of fun. Uh and UM, I'm sure everybody enjoyed it

1421
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: as much as we did. So let let Derek and

1422
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: David know the on Twitter um about their little appearance today,

1423
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll be back on Thursday. We're coming right

1424
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: back at you with our final possibly our final video

1425
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: show streaming on NFL dot com. Uh nine pm Eastern,

1426
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: six pm Pacific. But it will be um a show

1427
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: where we break down the release and this is what's

1428
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 1: his favorite show of the year of the two thousand

1429
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL schedule, West goose bumps for you now on

1430
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat. I'm gonna have to try

1431
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: to get through the next sixteen to eighteen hours without

1432
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of like a Christmas morning moment

1433
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: for me. We've got a lot of strength of schedule

1434
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: work to do in between, so a crunching all right,

1435
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: that's it. What a good day feel. I feel like

1436
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: a new man. Dan Hanson signing out four Quiet Storm,

1437
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: The Mailman, the Boss and last sid behind the glass

1438
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: US on Thursday, m HM