WEBVTT - Part One: Bishop David E. Taylor: Jesus Christ's Best Friend 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:07.760 Also media. Oh, welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.040 podcast that you're listening to right now. It's about the 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.320 worst people in all of history. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:13.720 Uh. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.040 And we've got one of my favorite guests in the 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:21.599 host of the podcast on our network, said Oligark, which 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:26.480 just got a new season, Jake Hanrahan, Jake, welcome back. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.200 How you doing? Thanks having me mate, long time, no 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.320 I speak, man, how have you been? 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.479 Ah, you know, I've been all right tired, like everyone 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.239 I think, especially where I am. What's going on? How 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:39.960 about you? 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.360 Yeah, like your country's like actually fascist. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.160 Now, like yeah, yeah, yeah, we're really speed running things. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:46.720 Huh yeah. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:48.880 Everyone's saying it for years and I was like, oh no. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.040 Oh no, yeah yeah yeah. It has been fun to 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.520 see all of the like debate go out the window 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.160 and like no, no, yeah, okay. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.920 No, straight on, like it's it's it's actually like very 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.800 scary because it's happening here as well in England, and 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.560 it's like, ah, there's like some consolidation of extreme authoritarianism happening. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.560 Yeah, yeah, it's happening, and it's happening at the kind 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:20.039 of speed that almost it seems farcical. So that's that's good. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.479 I feel upbeat. I don't. I don't know, like it's 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.920 it's weird too, because it's one of those like you 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.040 would I'd always kind of expect in the back of 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.080 my head that if things got this bad this quickly, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.319 there'd be stuff to do other like beyond just like 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.399 work like that that wouldn't be the primary concern. Is 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.319 still like making rent and and and and getting by. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.199 But everyone I know is walking around being like, yeah, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.520 it's crazy how fast things are going. Also, like I 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.960 got to take my kid to a doctor's appointment at three. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.320 Yeah no, no. I was talking to my friend about 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.440 this too. That was like the kind of rapid descent 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.800 into state control and authoritarianism is actually really boring, Like 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:01.360 it's just happening and that's it. 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.960 Yeah yeah, yeah, And I'm still going to like birthday 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.240 parties and stuff like okay, yeah yeah. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.280 My friend came back from a holiday and he was like, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.959 oh yeah, I got fingerprinted and my mouth swabbed and everything. 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.280 I was like, why, you're a British city and you're 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.520 coming back to England, Like what the fuck now? 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.840 Yeah, talking to you and I'm in the same boat 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.040 planning overseas trips and being like, well, now I have 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.800 a phone I've bought just for flying that has like 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:25.959 the minimum of everything on it because I'm going to 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.880 have to hand it over to border patrol and I 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.080 don't want anything interesting to be on there, you know. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.320 I mean, this must must be what it's like for 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.399 people in like, you know, countries that have been doing 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.480 this a little bit longer or a little bit more direct, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.720 you know, and now we're like, oh shit. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.480 We have to do it too well in this yeh, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.080 I'm glad I read there's a good book about like 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:49.520 authoritarianism in Russia called Nothing Is True and Everything is Permitted. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.640 I think it's more or less the title, yeah, which 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.720 is which? Which did help? Actually reading it years ago 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.080 was like, okay, well at least there's a rubric. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:02.240 Yeah. I love the way he kindind of explains it 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:07.040 through the reality TV how like almost in the West, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.320 you show them something fake and everyone goes, oh wow, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.600 look look at that. But then in the East story 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.400 in Russia, when you show them something fake, the people 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.560 go yeah wow, like they already know who's bullshit. And 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.680 it's like, I think we're coming to that level now 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.840 where we're like, ah, right, we already have to be 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.320 cynical because we kind of realize it's all nonsense. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.920 Yeah, yeah, and it's just impossible to know like what 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.760 is I mean, like just the ability of regular people 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.520 to differentiate between truth and lies and like a video now, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.480 I mean this goes down to the AI and stuff, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.400 but like there's so many more tools for just lying 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.720 to everybody. It's great. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:44.560 That's very scary. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.400 Yoh yeah. And I think in some ways about what's 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.640 happening just here and across a lot of other Western 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.360 like you said, it's happening in the UK too, as 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.320 like it part of what's going on, because I think 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.680 it's almost a mistake to purely couch it in terms 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.840 of fascism. Of what's going on is a growth in 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.400 sort of like cultic behavior and clttic abuse techniques becoming 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:13.280 like normalized across the political spectrum right at the Yeah, yeah, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.800 yeah exactly. Maggie is like a great example of that. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.120 And so I I keep turning back to cults periodically, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.520 and this is not this is not We've just started 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.760 this with kind of a political discussion about everything that's 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.599 going on. This is not a cult that is particularly 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.560 tied into politics in the US or elsewhere. But it's 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.840 a cult I that just got on my radar. They 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.960 just got busted by the FBI. Like the week that 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.279 I wrote this episode, there was this massive multi state 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.960 FBI bust cracking down on like a mansion that had 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.479 been owned by Nelly that was a cult property and 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:50.920 a bunch of other crazy shit. And Nelly's not involved. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.560 Okay, okay, okay, yeah. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.919 Nelly is uninvolved. This is just a house that Nelly 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.640 owned that later got purchased by a cult. But the 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.560 Nell connection does exist. This this is a cult that 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.160 I hadn't heard about before the FBI rated all their properties, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.840 but had been there had been some stuff written about them, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.440 so I had to do some real digging to get 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.400 a story here. But it's a group called the Kingdom 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:14.880 of God. Have you heard of these people? 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.520 Do you know what? I feel like I have? But 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.440 there are so many cults with similar names like that 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:21.039 that it could. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.080 Just see such a cult name it very much. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.240 Yeah, oh, the Kingdom of God Church. You're like, no, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:26.560 don't go there. Yeah. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.520 I had to check to see because there are like 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.880 four different cults I thought this might be and I 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.360 was like Nope, no, No, those are all slightly different names. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.479 This is a new one. This is a new one, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.000 and it's you know what, I try to be compassionate 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.600 when I like look at cults and study them and 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.960 talk about them on this show, because I do tend 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.880 to believe that anyone can be taken in by a 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.960 cult at some point in their life. Right, that doesn't 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.680 mean that, like everyone is always vulnerable to being I think, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.640 and in fact, I think most people grow out of 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.520 it and reach a point where that's a thing that 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.760 can't happen to them anymore. But I think most people 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.120 have a point in their life where if the right 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.040 cult were to come along, they'd be vulnerable to it, right. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.279 I think that's generally accurate, And so I generally try 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.919 to find some understanding with how people get involved in 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.760 something like the Church of Scientology or like sin and on. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:22.320 And I don't really understand this cult the Kingdom of 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.120 God all that well, Like I don't understand how someone 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.200 can like talk themselves into letting the things that were 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.080 being done to them be done to them. But I'll 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.000 do my best to explain it here. You know, this 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:37.600 may just be one that like was never what wasn't 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.040 angled towards people like me, I guess. But yeah, we'll 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.880 get into it. But that's the end of the cold open. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.680 So we'll come back in a second here and we'll 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:53.560 talk about the Kingdom of God, and we're back. So, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.520 as I said, not a well known cult. If you 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.160 haven't heard of these guys, you're probably in the norm. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.880 If you had, you probab found out the way I 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.719 did reading articles published just recently about this massive multi 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.599 state FBI rate of several cult properties. Prior to that, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.760 the only real interest this group attracted was internal criticism 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:16.840 in places like Charisma magazine, which is like charismatic Christianity 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.280 is like a type of evangelical Christianity, right, Like these 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.920 are to kind of summarize it, These are the people 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.119 who do like the crazy eaten snake or getting letting 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.320 snakes bite them kind of shit, right, like Pentecostals or 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.600 are charismatics. Charismatics are not all just Pentecostals, but like, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.480 it's the weird stuff, right. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.320 I'd be honest, like, if I had to join a call, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.200 I would rather be doing like snake church stuff than 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:42.560 like fucking scientology. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.560 You know absolutely that I agree with the snake church 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:51.320 stuff sounds like more fun. Initially, kind of the internal 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.640 criticism of this group before they reached legal intention was 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.720 other people who were kind of in lighter versions of 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.800 the cult, who were like, well, these guys are really 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.120 this is just a pure cult, right, And when you're 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.320 getting called out by other members of like that chunk 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.320 of Christianity, you really have to be going a hog 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.920 wild on the stealing people's money stuff, because like this 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.080 is the chunk of the faith where it's normal to 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.640 be like, well, yeah, my pastor needs a private jet. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.400 Obviously played it in gold. God wants them to have that. 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.320 So the fact that like these guys got attacked by 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.560 that community means they were really out of fucking pocket. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:33.439 When the FBI raided Kingdom of God properties, they found 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.079 at least fifty seven people who had been forced to 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.200 work for the cult in conditions that at least approximated 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:40.000 slave labor. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:40.280 Right. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.960 These are people who are working and having food and 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.680 shelter withheld if they don't work, and they're certainly not 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.280 being paid, right, So we're on that slave labor spectrum 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.840 right somewhere somewhere in there. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.920 Very heavy like normally colts start with like a pamphlat you. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.560 Know, no, they're they're kind of starting with, yeah, with 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.080 you're not going to get paid and will make you 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.720 homeless if you if you don't meet your numbers. And 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.440 what's weird enough is that this is the work they're doing. 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.280 This is a call center cult. Like, that's what they're 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.160 being made to do, is a call center as. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.559 Slaves in the center. It's so bad, man. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.480 Fuck, it's only marginally better if you're getting paid, right. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.120 Yeah, it's not even bad. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:29.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, already on the spectrum of yeah, being 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.360 forcibly forced to labor. So some number of female members 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.200 were also sexually trapped for the cult leader, right, which is, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.920 you know, a bummer, but pretty normal for a cult. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.400 And the cult leader obviously lived in luxury with a 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.199 handful of his lieutenants, and off of the strength of 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.440 tens of millions of dollars in donations brought in by 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.560 the sophisticated network of call centers and this network of 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.600 online stalkers. There's a This is a really savvy cult 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.680 in terms of like how they operate and utilize social 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.120 media to find vulnerable people, which is one one of 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.880 the things I'm more interested in talking about is that 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.720 it's not just we're just throwing out a wide net 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.319 and asking a million people for money and the hopes 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.040 that like a couple hundred send it. They're actually going 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.360 out and stalking people based on their social media to 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.480 try to determine if they're vulnerable or not to be 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:20.280 reached out to, which is cool just like Facebook. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.720 Facebook is where a lot of this happens. Absolutely, But I. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.600 Mean that's like even part of their model as well. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.600 Like they will advertise things to young girls that are 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.200 like perhaps looking at pages about, you know, eating disorders, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.000 and they'll be like, oh yeah, we'll use that to 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.280 advertise to them. It's like the darkest thing. Have a 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.560 doesn't surprise me A Colt would be doing it. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.040 Yeah, I would love to. And this is the kind 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.480 of thing. It would probably require that like there be 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.480 some sort of Nuremberg like case that you know, opens 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.800 up facebooks books. But I would love to know what 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.600 percentage of their profits is just a mix of like 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.920 inciting little kids to have eating disorders and directing people 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.600 into cults. Like because it's not nothing, it's not zero 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.600 percent of the Facebook income. It's straying people's lives at scale, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.679 it's got to be like forty percent at least. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.800 Right, Yeah. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.760 Yeah, Like it's at the point where I get advertisements 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.120 every week for like illegal suppressors for firearms, and like, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.400 that's not close to the worst thing on Facebook. It's like, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.200 that's that's that's wholesome. Honestly, that's just somebody who wants 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.200 a quieter gun to shoot people with. It's it's a doc. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.679 But I have not Facebook for like over ten years, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.160 but whenever I see things from it, I'm like, is 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.120 this like a fucking parallel universe kind of social media? 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:37.160 It's next level. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.680 Yeah, it's one of those things I Ethically, I guess 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.960 I should totally cancel it. I still go on about 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.520 once every two because there's like friends that I knew 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.280 twenty five years ago, and for work too, so like 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.839 when there's a mass shooting, I need to be able 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.920 to look up someone's family right, like or someone's posts. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.360 So I find use for it once every like two, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.600 But every time I'm on there, I'm just constantly like, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.920 oh my god, like, is what percentage of this traffic 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.640 is even real people watching shit? Because this is all 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:05.559 just insane. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.319 I love the boomer stuff where like they'll fool for 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.800 like there'll be like a fucking dolphin on roller skates 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.880 and I'm like, wow, look what the dolphins are doing. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.320 It's like, uh cool, Like shut up, go back to bed. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.520 Yeah, or like a poorly photoshopped or like a poorly 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.880 AI generated image of like a soldier with like his 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.800 hands bleeding from stigmata, and like most people won't share this. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.800 Anyone share this. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.000 Yeah, that's the best. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.120 Yeah. So we're talking about the Kingdom of God, and 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.040 like all cults, this story starts with the cult leader, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.760 one David E. Taylor, who is as of today, fifty 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.640 three years young. We know tragically little of David's early life. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.880 There's been no real in depth reporting on this guy 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.640 as an individual. So like ninety percent of what I've 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.760 got to work with here is what he wrote or 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.800 had ghost written on his church website and a two 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.319 thousand and nine self help book that he wrote about 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.560 talking to g Right. That's that those are our sources 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.560 of this guy's early life. So take all of this 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.080 with a grain of salt, right, because this is not Yeah, 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.160 per these sources, I can tell you he was born 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.240 on August third, nineteen seventy two in Memphis, Tennessee. I 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.839 doubt he's lying about that because I really can't think 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.840 of a reason for him to lie about being fifty 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.960 three years old. His parents were in the church business. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.679 His dad was an evangelical past or. His dad is 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.800 a Baptist pastor, right, So that is evangelical, but it's 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.960 a very different chunk of the faith from like the 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.080 Pentecostalism that he's going to come to as an adult. Right, Like, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.559 Baptists are not the same kind of evangelicals. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.640 I think you could be chill and be Abaptists still, right, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:40.520 and they're like pretty chill. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.760 There are some chill Baptists. Yes, I don't know that 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.960 his dad was, but it's very different, right, or somewhat different, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.040 we should say. And yeah, and is a big thing 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.760 that you can tell from his family in terms of 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.040 the seriousness with which they take their religion is that 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.800 his dad really embraced the commandment that Christians should be 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.960 fruitful and multiplying. Because David was born the seventh and 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.040 at the time he was the youngest child in his family, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.200 but his parents had two more kids after him, So 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.199 that's you're really putting in putting in the work. When 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:13.320 you're having nine kids, that's that's not insignificant, he would 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.720 later Yeah, fierrile, and also really relying on those middle 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.280 kids to raise the youngest ones. Now, he would later 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.760 write that his mother told him while she was pregnant 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.960 with him, that she spent hours a day praying at 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.360 her husband's church. And I haven't found much about his 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.280 father other than that he was a pastor for close 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.960 to forty years. The only detail from his life that 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.600 his son seemed interested in repeating is that when his 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.000 dad was twenty three years old, he stopped a gunman 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.600 on a bus. And here's the version of the story 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.960 that David published on one of his church websites about 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.520 his dad. One day, as he was writing the Memphis 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.520 bus transit, the young man pulled out a gun and 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.640 stuck up the bus, robbing the people of their money. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.120 Minister Taylor boldly came on the bus and began to 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.120 speak the word of God to the robber. He then 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.800 commanded him to give him the gun and put it 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.640 in his hand in Jesus's name. The man's instant le obeyed. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.280 Minister Taylor also commanded him to give the people their 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.920 money back, which he did. Later, after he was arrested, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.160 Minister Taylor went and visited him in prison. When they 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.360 saw each other, they both wept. He then led the 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.960 young man to the lord, resulting in him surrendering his 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.920 life completely. Racial barriers were also broken at a time 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.680 when racial tensions were high. The newspaper openly declared that 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.800 a black man and a white man cried together, and 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.280 in a shocking twist, this is a true story. Yeah, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.400 this actually happened. There's a newspaper clipping about it, and 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.520 the Yeah, there's a photo from the Memphis Press scimitar 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.160 with a picture of Minister Taylor and the robber and 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.080 he's wearing like one of those striped prison shirts. It 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.720 really looks like a scene from Cool Hand Luke. And 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.880 the actual text of the news article is pretty close 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.880 to what David said. The story, written by Paul Vanderwood, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.520 starts with the sentence a Negro and a white man 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.000 cried together today, which tells you a lot about where 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.560 race relations were that like, that's your lead. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.440 Yeah, yeah, oh boy, Yeah, it doesn't look good. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.160 Things were bad if that's where we're starting, But yeah, 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.360 seems to be true and his dad seems nice because 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.480 his dad like the articles about his dad testifying in 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.760 the robber's behalf to try to get him leniency because 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.880 like he stopped rather than continuing with the robbery. So 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.880 good on him. That seems like a nice story. Yeah, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.800 and David is going to be raised with this tale 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.680 of his father's heroism. But apparently the example wasn't enough 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.360 to stop him from falling into an adolescence of sin 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.200 and debauchery. His early life is summed up on the 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.320 church website this way. Raised in a Christian home in Memphis, Tennessee, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.560 he fell away as he was seduced into the gang 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.800 life as a teenager. But everything drastically changed one night 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.200 at the age of seventeen when Jesus appeared to him 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.840 face to face in a dream. Now, one thing I 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.040 noticed straight away when I was going into this guy's 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.760 life is that he spends a lot of time talking 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.120 about how bad he was as a teenager, well admitting 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.120 that his father was this like great man who made 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.480 him go to church three times a week. And I 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.480 this is kind of normal for guys in this chunk 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.639 of Christianity, especially who take to preaching as a family business. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.640 Because you you both want to burnish your credentials that like, oh, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.680 my family's always been preaching. But you also have to 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.200 be able to You have to have a rock bottom narrative. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.600 You can't just be like and so I was always 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:18.840 a good godly man. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.760 Say they never do that. They like, yeah, everything was fine, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.680 but that was cool. Now I'm doing It's like no, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.760 like I did Heroin for three year and it's like, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.560 did you just do that? We'll say you did that 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.760 to have this like cool back story. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.239 Yeah, Or is it? Is it like how you know 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.160 some politicians will like join the army or the Marines 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.360 to get like a tour in so that they can 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.439 campaign off of it for the rest of their career. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.440 Is it like, all right, I got to spend three 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.760 years doing Heroin and skin rows that I can. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.080 Yeah, it's like the little building you know. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.560 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I got hepatitis from a dirty needle 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.480 and that's like my combat action ribbon. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.720 Yeah, just like yeah, but I've seen ship. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.840 Yeah. So anyway. In his first book, Face to Face 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.399 Appearances with Jesus, David Taylor claims he was visited by 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.280 Christ and visited he means in person like he means 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.359 that they have like a physical relationship. In December of 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.800 nineteen eighty nine, this was around a week before Christmas Eve, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.880 and David was, by his account, a pretty tough customer. 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.960 He described himself in his book as your typical unsaved teenager, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.080 smoking dope, marijuana, using bad language and cursing, partying and 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.080 having pre marital sex. I was even involved with gangs 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.879 and hung around cocaine dealing drug lords. Hmmm. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.040 I love that he went from swearing to drug lords, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:37.600 like mate. 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.280 For swearing the drug lords. Yeah, it's the that's the 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.280 real uh gateway drug is cursing. Yeah, he just streak 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.080 to go gain dealing drug lords. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.200 One that I said ship. The next was Pablo Escobata. Yeah, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.560 that happens all the time. Fucking idiot. He's always making 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:54.840 this up, like surely. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.880 It's it's gotta be lies, right, it's gotta be part 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.360 of that is he goes, I was smoking dope comma marijuana. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.800 So is he saying that he was smoking dope is 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.639 in like heroin and marijuana, because I'm not. I'm not 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.200 impressed with the pot. If you were smoking like fucking horse, right, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.440 it's like, yeah, the pot doesn't even register if you're 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:15.879 doing if you're smoking heroin. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.560 No, it sounds like the kid at school that's like, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.000 oh yeah, you know, like when you're like six and 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.879 there's a kid that's like, yeah, I have smoked weed. 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:25.320 It's like you probably fucking have him. Like he sounds 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:26.240 like one of them kids, you know. 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.920 Yeah, it's like being like, yeah, you know, I used 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.479 to shoot up forty eight hundred dollars worth of heroin 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.200 a week. Also one time I took too much Benadryl 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:34.720