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Speaker 1: Alright, we were presented by Win Bett Betty as a

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Speaker 1: team sport but together at win. But we're joined by

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Speaker 1: Anthony Beck. Do you all know him during the regular

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Speaker 1: season for what he's doing on Jets overtime in Free

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Speaker 1: Games Central. But always good to see you here in

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Speaker 1: America's heartland, Indianapolis, Indiana. Before we start talking about the

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Speaker 1: Jets off season. A B. How was your off season?

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Speaker 1: Ben today? Off season? Yeah, it's been great. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: since the season ended. Uh, just wrapped up watching the

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Speaker 1: rest of the team's kind of wrapped the season up.

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Speaker 1: Um sent my son off. He's an early and roll

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Speaker 1: lead Iowa State, so we dropped him off in January.

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Speaker 1: I drove his truck up and he's been there a

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Speaker 1: little over a month now. So he's rocking and rolling

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, getting he's diving in so he's

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Speaker 1: that was good. And so we're one less in the house,

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Speaker 1: so me and my wife and my daughter is old

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Speaker 1: enough to kind of do our own things. So me

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, like coach at the p A game. I

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Speaker 1: was at the NFL p A game I coached with

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Speaker 1: came back for a week back to Tampa, and then

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Speaker 1: So we're like, we gotta get home. So we dipped

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Speaker 1: out right before the Super Bowl the Red Eye before

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Speaker 1: I'm here. So I'm here at the event again with

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Speaker 1: the tight ends. So I am the the NFL legend.

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Speaker 1: Legend in the NFL terms means former player. So I'm

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Speaker 1: the mentor for the tight ends my second time doing it.

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Speaker 1: And basically wherever the tight end group goes as a group,

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Speaker 1: I go with them, except to the hospital when they're

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Speaker 1: any meetings, when we go on the field drills, I'll

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Speaker 1: anything they want to do, and I pull them aside.

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Speaker 1: I talked to them, I bang on them early on

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Speaker 1: come to me directly and have a conversation with me.

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Speaker 1: Pick my brain asked me something so I can get

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Speaker 1: I'm I tell them, I'm here for you to the

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Speaker 1: I want you all to play twelve years like me.

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Speaker 1: That's my goal to help you give some of that

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Speaker 1: informations in a short period of time. But very attentive group, uh,

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Speaker 1: very smart group, intelligent, mature, very impressed by them overall.

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Speaker 1: So somebody or a few of them are gonna come out,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rosie in this draftlet would be fund this

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Speaker 1: New York Jets. You have to say that. But before

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Speaker 1: we get into that, hey man, you were talking about

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Speaker 1: for for obvious reasons. When I was a kid, I

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Speaker 1: how about the Jets here this offseason? Um? The draft

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Speaker 1: obviously number four number time selections, two picks in the

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Speaker 1: so to speak, because free agency perceives everything and even

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Speaker 1: be addressing some of your needs in free agency, what

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Speaker 1: always tricky in free agency, right, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I felt like they had a really strong free agent

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Speaker 1: like you can never really you know, you just you

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Speaker 1: come back. So Number one, I think you gotta be

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Speaker 1: And look, the good coaches, the gms have been around

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Speaker 1: all the great draft picks that worked out well for

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Speaker 1: everybody wants it to happen now, but there is a process,

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Speaker 1: With that being said, Jets eight team players who could

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Speaker 1: That list includes Braxton and Burrios, Jamison Crowder, Laurent DuVernay,

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Speaker 1: And they look Morgan, Moses man, he stepped in, did

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Speaker 1: you know, if everybody feels safe about that the Hutchinson kid, right,

427
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 1: so they feel like maybe that's going to kind of

428
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 1: be like a JJ Watt kind of guy. Come in.

429
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 1: He can dominate, do his thing. He's got great work ethic. Um,

430
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 1: you know he doesn't get passed two right? No? I

431
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: mean I I would say no. I would say no.

432
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 1: I just don't think he will. I think the guy

433
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 1: that everybody's starting to question and wonder like if he's

434
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: worth of value is the Oregon kid, uh Thibodeaux. I

435
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 1: like him. I mean, listen. I played in the league

436
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 1: where there was a guy named Julius Julius Peppers. Now

437
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,199
Speaker 1: Peppers was a dominating player, but Julius would not be

438
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 1: dominant every snap. Julius was dominant sporadically in a game,

439
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 1: and he would change the game with some of the

440
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: big plays that he made. So every game he played

441
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: there was something he did. And I just feel like

442
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 1: this kid. Now, look, they're gonna sit down with him.

443
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: I've never met the kids, so I don't know anything

444
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 1: about him. I just know his something big week for him. Yeah,

445
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 1: I just know he's a little different. He's always been

446
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: kind of above the the the caliber of players he's

447
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 1: been around, and I think he's an interesting interview from

448
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing as far as some of the way

449
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: he kind of uh portrays and goes about his business.

450
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: But you know, people are starting to say I heard

451
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: mcshaite talking about people were worried about, um, you know,

452
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: the passion or whatever it is. I mean, I don't know, man,

453
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: he played pretty hard to me. I mean, did he

454
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 1: did you feel like he showed up when you watch

455
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: him on TV like that? This guy was tough to

456
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 1: the you know, Ohio State game was he was good.

457
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 1: He was real good in that game and and they

458
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: beat him. So, um, listen, the and the the things

459
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: that he does that are special are hard to find.

460
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: So again, you gotta do your home. But yeah, I mean,

461
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough pass if he's in there,

462
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: in that in that realm as well. So it's not easy.

463
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: So but you know, those guys could be there sitting

464
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: where you gotta choose and between and then of course

465
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: we haven't got that there's corners and safeties that are

466
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: also viable. That's that spot as well. Yeah, you're talking

467
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: about Staneley from l s U and a guy who

468
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: is probably gonna have a very good week here. I

469
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: think would be sauce gardeners like that. He might pay

470
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: the top overall corner in this class. Yeah, super long.

471
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: He's productive. Um, you know, he's actually made plays on

472
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: the field. You know, sometimes be like, oh, you don't

473
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: worry about interceptions. Interceptions are kind of a big deal,

474
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: Like can he get the football right when it's going

475
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: his way and not many people through his way? So

476
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: he's just ultimately just really productive that way as well.

477
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, did he play against the elite caliber receivers

478
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: during his college career? I mean, I mean, look, who

479
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: knows that there's a lot of really good dbs in

480
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: the league that didn't play in in the SEC and

481
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: all these other kind of leagues. So, uh, I know

482
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: he's been coached well, I know he's gonna have a

483
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: maturity level about him. I know that he's gonna have

484
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 1: a toughness about him. I know he's gonna have a

485
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: discipline about him that you know people are going to embrace.

486
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: So um coaches are gonna really like him, and you

487
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: know he is going to be off the board fairly

488
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: quick in my opinion. Yeah, a sauce gardener remember that name,

489
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: all right, solicable with dear position group to tight down.

490
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: We have an opportunity to watch Trey McBride on the

491
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: national roster downond mobile coached up by the Jets Ron Middleton.

492
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: He'll be uh taking care of the tight ends on

493
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: field work here in Indianapolis. But he's very familiar with

494
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: this group. A lot of these guys are ready, including McBride.

495
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: What do you think of him? Uh, ultra productive in college,

496
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: really good hands, William blocker. Yeah, so you know, one

497
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: thing that I know is just seeing him in person.

498
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: He's not very big as far as muscular wise, but

499
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: I think he's like two forty five, but he plays heavier, right,

500
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: so he's like more he's an aggressive blocker. He's very

501
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to be an attacking guy. He

502
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: understands that he's got that attitude to do it. But man,

503
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's a ballplayer, man, he he

504
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: goes out there, he can catch run all the routes.

505
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: Uh in traffic over the middle. Uh, super productive numbers.

506
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: I think I caught ninety balls I think this year

507
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 1: or something like that. Just really good clean background. Um.

508
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: You know his brother played with him, meant at at

509
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Colorado State. Comes from a family. He just loves ball man,

510
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: that's all he does. I got a chance to talk

511
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: to us so an old coach that coach him, Frank

512
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Lennard been around uh the NFL and college game for guys,

513
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: has been coaching for forty years. Reached out to me

514
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and say, hey, man, I

515
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you're going out to the combine, but

516
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, go up the trade meet him. He's exemplary guy.

517
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: He's such a tough, hard nosed player. He's he's got

518
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: no weaknesses. So I don't know. Is he a kind

519
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: of a Kiddles guy? Uh? You know where again, Kittles

520
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: is undersize, but he blocks pretty well because he he

521
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: knows how to use leverage and attack and get his

522
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: hands on guys quick. I think that's something that Trade

523
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: does well. And Tray can you know movement wise getting

524
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: in the slot I mean he's dangerous, you know, but

525
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: he's he's not super tall. But again, you know, he's

526
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: been effective in college. Now people say, well, you know,

527
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: can he do it at the next level as efficient

528
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: as he did in the Mountain West? Who knows? You

529
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, obviously, Yeah, it's a

530
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: little different, uh, skill set he's going against. But that

531
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: hadn't deterred him. I thought he had a decent week

532
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl as well, and he had a

533
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: blast and it was good again a touchdown catching the

534
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: game too. Yeah, you don't ever want to be the

535
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: coach coaches of that game, but when you're there, what

536
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: a nice advantage it is to be huge opportunities. Isaiah

537
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: likely from a coastal Carolina small school. Um, he's got

538
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: big time potential though, slender athletic guy. Uh, super super

539
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: good route runner. Just uh you know, pretty much won

540
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: every matchup that he had in college, played in the Sunbelt. Again,

541
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: is that a question mark on how it translates. I

542
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: just you know, he's very fast. I think he'll he'll

543
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: test well. Uh he told me. I believe he's told

544
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: he's doing everything. So he'll go out there and uh,

545
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: and and show what he has from an athletic standpoint.

546
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: Uh catches the ball well. Um, you know, gets in

547
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: the end zone quite a bit. So he understands red

548
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: zone and routes and and scoring. I want to say

549
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: that I read a statistical on him. I think I

550
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: don't know something about his Uh well, I know his

551
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: yards per catches like seventeen p us yards or something

552
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: like that. So guy can get down the field. He's

553
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: got he's got speed to cut through and be a

554
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: factor down the field, which you know again tight ends

555
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: got speed, but you know there's intermediate you know, fifteen

556
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: yr max. He can really slice the seams and and

557
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: get down the field as well. I like him. I

558
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be efficient. You know. Again, how will

559
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: he do against um. I don't know if he really

560
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: stood out in the Senior Bowl, but I don't think

561
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: he hurt himself either. And I think you know, when

562
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: you talk about what he did and what he's gonna do,

563
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: what he's already done at Colorado's excuse me, uh, in

564
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: the Sun Belt, how that translates in the league. Again,

565
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: that's that's for the fine eye of the scouts and

566
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: how they feel about him in this process, Rocks gonna

567
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: be playing quarterback at high with stated guy who he

568
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: won't be thrown a football too is Charlie Cohler. Two

569
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: guys really. Chase Allen is here as well, so they

570
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: got two tight ends the only school that the only

571
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: school has two tight ends in the building at the

572
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: tight end position. But Charlie is phenomenal. Now I'm gonna

573
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay unbiased out of this because obviously I've

574
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: watched all their games because i have interest in that team.

575
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: But um, you know, Charlie is number one. Is super

576
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: super smart, like to the point where like he's gonna

577
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: walk into the building and be the smartest guy in

578
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: in in the room. But he also has an outstanding personality.

579
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: He's funny, He's kind of that character kind of guy.

580
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: So he's got a good mix. Now, Charlie as a

581
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: football player, long arms, long guy, like just really intimidating

582
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of a guy. When he runs in his routes,

583
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a matchup problem versus any safety or

584
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. What he brings to the table,

585
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what his his time is gonna be.

586
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's he's got a little hip flexer,

587
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: so he's still working on what he wants to do

588
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: with the combine. He wants to do it. But um,

589
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: his his ability to find space and just be there

590
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: for the quarterback, to me, is barn done the best

591
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: of anybody in this draft. He does he knows holes,

592
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 1: quarterback knows bam, he's gonna be in a spot. He

593
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: knows how to get off the linebacker, play against leverage. Uh,

594
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: he's really good just plucking the ball. Everything's natural, nothing

595
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: hits the body. And uh again, he's gonna come in

596
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: and pick up an offense in in a week and

597
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to play and utilize everything that

598
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: he's good at. He's gonna be able to put that

599
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: on the field sooner because he's not gonna be overwhelmed

600
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: with a new playbook and all this other stuff. And

601
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I think that's huge. So I'm a big fan of him. Um,

602
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, again, any anybody that can be the quarterback's

603
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: friend right now. And you know, look, he's not a

604
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: dog get blocked, but he came from an offense that

605
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: asked him to do those kind of things and he

606
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: did it. So again, the the tight end position is

607
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: much different now on what they're asking him to do.

608
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: If you can block admirably or at least you want

609
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: to do it, that's a bonus in my opinion, because

610
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: you just can't find those kind of guys. But there

611
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: no Anthony coming. No, no, no, there's not. I mean

612
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: you know it's um. There's a kid from Oregon State.

613
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: Uh tegaging Uh quarant Riano. I don't even know how

614
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: to say his name, quit Torriano. His name is okay.

615
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: He he came from a blocking uh kind of he

616
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: did a ton of blocking from this Year's a good

617
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: looking kid though, like body wise, but you know, look

618
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: in this league, man, you need you need guys that

619
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: can produce and um in the passing game. And he's

620
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: the guy that could you know, he's again going back

621
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: to Charlie, he's a guy that's good. How about Jeremy

622
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: Rucker from Ohio State. Now you're playing at Ohio State

623
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: and you got those kinds of receivers every Saturday. That

624
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: means you're probably not can you right? Why didn't you transfer? No?

625
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's he's very talented. Uh, he can block. Uh.

626
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: He made some really nice catches Uh, for this football

627
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: team throughout the season, and it's nice to have those

628
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: guys that kind of open up seams for you and

629
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: run routes. Talk to him briefly last night and some today. Uh,

630
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: he's got a little um uh planner fascis going on

631
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: from the from the game which he didn't play in

632
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. So again, he's probably gonna wait

633
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: the Pro day. He probably won't see much of him

634
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: action wise at the combine. But I mean, yeah, I mean, look,

635
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: he's grew up a Jets, did he really? Yeah? Long Island?

636
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh not see, I didn't even know that. Well, I

637
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Speaker 1: plug play boom? Um do they haven't they only have

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Speaker 1: I think that's the two things you do they feel

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Speaker 1: take him. It doesn't matter if he's number one now

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00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: because the value of these guys. It's different how they

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the guy, and it seems like a

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Speaker 1: the culture he's trying to bring there with the Lions,

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Speaker 1: Hudginson just seems like, yeah, I think so, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean he kind of epitomizes the persona of Dan Gambele, right,

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Speaker 1: He's that kind of dude. And yeah, of course you

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Speaker 1: want guys that can buying and do those kind of

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Speaker 1: well into that to that scheme, that organization, and of

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Speaker 1: course you're right the fandom within that area. Being a

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Speaker 1: Michigan kid, that be kind of cool, right. So what

703
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: do you think about the receivers in this drift? Uh,

704
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Speaker 1: Drake London from USC, you got Garrett Wilson from Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Maybe either one of those guys come off the board first.

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Speaker 1: But the list is pretty deep again this year, and

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Speaker 1: there might be some thought process. If you're a jet

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Speaker 1: and you want them to go wide receiver. That again,

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Speaker 1: there's depth in this class to talk about a lave

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Speaker 1: and then you talk about Johan Dotson from Penn State,

711
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Speaker 1: but it goes well beyond guys like that. Listen, man,

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Speaker 1: there there's a lot of dudes that can help your team.

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Speaker 1: And hell, they might all go in the first round.

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Speaker 1: That's you know. I mean, there's just so many guys.

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Speaker 1: But that upper echelon of guys you mentioned them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he's probably not projected

718
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Speaker 1: in the first round, but man, that dude is ready

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Speaker 1: to go. Like he's a guy. He's gonna sit in

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Speaker 1: some of these meetings and coach are gonna fall in

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Speaker 1: love with this kid. Uh, well spoken, mature, um, well

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Speaker 1: traveled throughout you know, being you know, he hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: his parents since he left for college. They live in

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Speaker 1: uh in Canada, and uh, he's just really like you know,

725
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Speaker 1: me and Tory Holt. Tory holds the mentor for the receivers.

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Speaker 1: All the guys left. Me and Tory are having some food.

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Speaker 1: Guess who comes over to pick our brain? Man? You know, listen,

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Speaker 1: I just those things. Kids are good. But Jamison Williams

729
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Speaker 1: is another guy. I know, he's just he's just stud.

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Speaker 1: It's coming off the injury, right, so it's like, man,

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Speaker 1: what if he's there at the top of the second round.

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Speaker 1: I look, he is, He's awesome. You know. If the

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Speaker 1: knee checks out, I mean, I gotta think you know,

734
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Speaker 1: knees are like another injury these days, so they usually

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Speaker 1: come back. But man, that dude's a stud. Um. The

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Speaker 1: Ohio State kids are good. Um, you know that the

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Speaker 1: dots and kid may have the best hands in the

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Speaker 1: in the damn in the draft. And hell, I like

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Speaker 1: David Bell. I like that kid. You know he's not

740
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Speaker 1: in the first round world, but man, when you talk

741
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Speaker 1: about you'll be sitting there at the top of the

742
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Speaker 1: second I think he is the smoothest route ruther route

743
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Speaker 1: runner in the draft. And uh, you know, I don't

744
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Speaker 1: know what his speed is gonna be, but I just

745
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Speaker 1: know he which is everything and he knows how to

746
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Speaker 1: get open. Very rarely do I see a contested catch

747
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Speaker 1: from him, so that you know, to me, that will

748
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Speaker 1: change obviously the lead. But a guy that can run

749
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Speaker 1: routes good and can get separation, and he may not

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Speaker 1: have you a four three guy? Some guys run four

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. I'd rather have it the other way.

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Speaker 1: Is he a four four nine guy or four or

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the spot where he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be and can make place. Man, I think he's a

757
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Speaker 1: really savvy football player. I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna make a quick transition to the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Trailan Burke's is another guy is gonna get a lot

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Speaker 1: of love from Markansas. Yeah, he's a little bit of walker.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen much of him. I just know they

762
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Speaker 1: keep saying Mike Evans with speed. That's what I'm hearing,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is wow, that's kind of crazy. And

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Speaker 1: steam from Sky is actually from uh, let's see Western Michigan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I it's probably got fid right. He's

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about him. I haven't I haven't

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Speaker 1: dove that much into it, but he's probably he's probably

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Speaker 1: a four three guys. Okay, yeah, so yeah, Look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, they've had some productive receivers come out of

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Speaker 1: from from Mac and you know, he may be there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a first round guy, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I haven't studied him enough to actually make

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Speaker 1: a comment on him. But I mean, listen, it's deep.

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Speaker 1: It's a deep class. So lastly, what do you think

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of experienced guys that know a lot

787
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Speaker 1: of ball and seeing a lot of players they gotta have.

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Speaker 1: I know they got a plan right now. It's the

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Speaker 1: ultimate plan is having all those pieces available to you

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Speaker 1: right so that you can see what you've got they

791
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: can grow and practice and be available so that you

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Speaker 1: can put it together on on opening Day and let

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Speaker 1: those kind of let them grow. So you're those factors

794
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: you can never roll in there there. But I think

795
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Speaker 1: they've done a nice job. I think they did a

796
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: good job in the draft last year. Clearly the most

797
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: important pick last year. As a quarterback, Zack has to

798
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Speaker 1: take a huge step, huge step this year. Continue to

799
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Speaker 1: You got, he's got to have a great off season. Zach.

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Speaker 1: I don't know him. I saw Zach in the off season,

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Speaker 1: just big off season, go grind, go work. I know

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's bringing the guys down to Miami

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00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: or their meeting up together like that. Work has to

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a big deal for him because

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Speaker 1: he's an important part obviously this whole thing, uh succeeding

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Speaker 1: so that this will be big for them. And I

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Speaker 1: know they got a plan in place and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: stick with it. And you know if everybody so, I

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Speaker 1: want to see the entire team healthy week one and

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Speaker 1: I want to see all the pieces there. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to and I want to see it for eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: That's my dream, that's my that's my wish for the season.

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Speaker 1: All free agents are healthy, everybody comes in, rookies or

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Speaker 1: whoever's playing is playing on week one to week eight.

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Speaker 1: We can see exactly what we picked and and and

828
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Speaker 1: been through. Now, is that a tough thing to ask?

829
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Speaker 1: It absolutely is. But at least they you guys and

830
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Speaker 1: we can get them there. That's gonna be huge for

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Speaker 1: this football team. And hopefully those strides are taken to

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Speaker 1: get this team where they want to go. Exciting a

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00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: couple of months ahead for the New York Jets and

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Speaker 1: the fans. Exciting week ahead for this guy. Anthony fact

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Speaker 1: will be with the tight ends throughout the NFL combine.

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Speaker 1: We'll see soon, brother man. Thanks for having