Speaker 1: Look Marrier, Oh, I see you.
Speaker 2: My own look over there is that culture.
Speaker 1: Yes, lost culture ding d Lost culture is just calling.
Speaker 1: So the vibes are very summer today as New York
Speaker 1: has turned a corner and become hot. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it, I'm going to already complain a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I think once the deal is broken, that is when
Speaker 3: you really get it out of your system. And I
Speaker 3: think you're gonna sort of like fold into it for
Speaker 3: the rest of the seas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I've just had my first summer sweat
Speaker 1: and I'm like no, because it's like, you idealize New
Speaker 1: York so much.
Speaker 2: Because now I live in LA.
Speaker 1: As we all have heard me talk about this LA
Speaker 1: New York conversation is ongoing culturally, especially Real Culture number
Speaker 1: ninety two.
Speaker 2: This La New York conversations is ongoing culturally, And.
Speaker 1: You learned recently. What I've learned recently is that humidity
Speaker 1: still exists. I mean, you know, it doesn't go away
Speaker 1: just because you idealize New.
Speaker 2: York and that's New York and not LA. And that's
Speaker 2: New York. There's no humidity in LA.
Speaker 1: They probably should go over there because the hurricanes have
Speaker 1: come here, like a lot of culture happened hurricanes.
Speaker 3: I feel like cypress trees. They got to be drinking
Speaker 3: up a lot of water. Who and the palm is
Speaker 3: good without but the cypress, which is my favorite thing
Speaker 3: about La. I don't care too much about the terrain.
Speaker 3: I agree with Chloe Sevani. The water is too hard.
Speaker 3: Ye see it very hard. As soon as you're done
Speaker 3: with the shower, you see it sort of like caking
Speaker 3: at the corner. And I go, I don't like that mildew.
Speaker 3: I don't like that calcium around me.
Speaker 1: When Chloe Sevanie dragged La, I was like, she's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sucks.
Speaker 2: I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: And then I came here and I'm seconds into being
Speaker 1: a New York again, and I'm like, it's yellmen, I'm
Speaker 1: between two California legends.
Speaker 2: California legends. Indeed, so get this.
Speaker 1: Our guest today hosts a late night program and it
Speaker 1: films right next door to my house, which was convenient
Speaker 1: for me when I got booked the show. What every
Speaker 1: actor dreams on the Machine, especially really coaching number fifty,
Speaker 1: What every actor dreams us to be booked on the show,
Speaker 1: on the show and I went there and I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is the life host your fun ass
Speaker 1: late night show next to Matt Rogers's apartment, right next
Speaker 1: to my apartment where the party is really smacks like
Speaker 1: Seddy Davis when you go in. I was rude to everyone.
Speaker 1: It was a total bitch coming in. Now I was
Speaker 1: a sweetheart.
Speaker 3: New Fate Dunaway clip is kind of making the rounds
Speaker 3: where she has to pick up a line. She goes,
Speaker 3: I'll pick it up, yeah, okay, yeah, Fee, And then she
Speaker 3: goes into the line again. You know the thing about
Speaker 3: being an actress, can you actually move?
Speaker 2: You're in my eye line? She started to give.
Speaker 1: She started to give capital f fay, capital f fay. Honestly,
Speaker 1: not since Fee have we seen a true legend, a
Speaker 1: true Now Hollywood has sort of you know, I would
Speaker 1: tell everyone to brace themselves because there's some all in
Speaker 1: the paramount lot. Who's coming, Who's coming, She's here with us,
Speaker 1: She's here, she's arrived, she's coming. Last night I watched
Speaker 1: Have It All So Good? Netflix Stand up special? Have
Speaker 1: you seen Looking for You?
Speaker 2: Yes? I saw that. Ojey.
Speaker 1: We call that when you see it Ojelee. It's mean
Speaker 1: when you watch it when you see it, when you
Speaker 1: watch it when it comes out. Now, I think our
Speaker 1: guest has early Taylor Swift cadence of releases every two years,
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh okay, it's time for the special.
Speaker 1: So you think soon she's going to be like way
Speaker 1: oversaturated World War eras Taylor Tomlinson, the Other Taylor the
Speaker 1: Other working title of app. We'll definitely get better than that.
Speaker 1: We'll definitely have one already is great. This person would
Speaker 1: never tell anyone to get out of her island because
Speaker 1: she's really good on prompter.
Speaker 2: Really good on prompter.
Speaker 1: You've seen this person, I've seen it in action. And
Speaker 1: when someone is good on prompter, your shoulders drop because
Speaker 1: you think I'm safe. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's a skilled because guess who's not good on prompter?
Speaker 3: That's a lie, you idiot. Good on cue cards?
Speaker 1: Excuse me?
Speaker 2: What is the goddamn difference?
Speaker 3: C cards harder no Q cards can be in any situation.
Speaker 3: If you put a prompter, if you put a monitor
Speaker 3: with words on it, spatially, the footprint is such that
Speaker 3: it can't fit everywhere you want it to, on a set,
Speaker 3: right on the stage. And so therefore also we have
Speaker 3: monitors that are not wired that go out, that black
Speaker 3: out at any given moment.
Speaker 1: Technology can be a huge betrayer of a performer. It's
Speaker 1: actually really coach are number forty. Technology can be a
Speaker 1: huge betrayer.
Speaker 2: Of a live performer.
Speaker 3: So cue cards and also they've been recently unionized, which
Speaker 3: we celebrate.
Speaker 1: Love that, and maybe we'll change the culture at after
Speaker 1: midnight because maybe they'll bring Q cards in.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think our guests is very comfortable
Speaker 3: on the prompter, So I don't want to like Perturban like, it's.
Speaker 1: Not about comfort, It's about getting union men jobs. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Aretty Strong, our guest is one of the greats, she say.
Speaker 1: When I remember I told her this when I did
Speaker 1: her show, Like when I saw her at JFL in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, she was one of varieties new faces alongside
Speaker 1: Joel Kim and Jabuki, a bunch of our friends. It
Speaker 1: was a memorable night and Southern Mama, I was like,
Speaker 1: my surprise that she has leveled up in such a
Speaker 1: way and become this like comedians comedian. And I went
Speaker 1: to my coffee shop today and told the girl that
Speaker 1: worked there she was on the show, and she collapsed.
Speaker 1: She watches her for your Standus specials like every night
Speaker 1: before bed, like just one of the greats, like my
Speaker 1: shock registers at zero that she's so successful and just
Speaker 1: one of the best.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy she's here, So happy she's here. Everyone welcome, talented.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have so much to say that's
Speaker 4: good on a podcast.
Speaker 5: First off, equally surprised you feel that way about que cards,
Speaker 5: the fact that you can read handwriting better than.
Speaker 2: They put our guys through class.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, where it's like you got to make sure
Speaker 3: the A has a peek and you got to make
Speaker 3: sure you know the Q looks doesn't look too funky,
Speaker 3: like the letters have to be glyphic in.
Speaker 5: The yeah, and I hear you on the blacking out
Speaker 5: with the prompter. But like if the person holding the
Speaker 5: Q cards is going through something.
Speaker 4: Like, there's the same there's the same room for air.
Speaker 4: I think in a different way.
Speaker 5: I was so surprised everybody was so impressed I could
Speaker 5: read tell a prompter, like to a point where I'm like,
Speaker 5: is everybody making fun of me? What I was like,
Speaker 5: when we can They told me for the screen test,
Speaker 5: they were like, you need to practice. They were like,
Speaker 5: we're rooting for you to get this job. Practice. So
Speaker 5: I was on TikTok watching local news anchors do teleprompter
Speaker 5: tests and and those are the real legends. And they
Speaker 5: were so fast, and of course none of them are funny.
Speaker 5: It's like five car pile up on the freeway today.
Speaker 5: And I was practicing alone in my room like a
Speaker 5: crazy person, and then I got in. I was like,
Speaker 5: this is so much easier. They're going with my the
Speaker 5: speed of my speaking. Yeah, And truly three months in,
Speaker 5: people are still like you are so good on prompt
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, I do stand up for memory.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna memorize my jokes everyone. Yes, but people are
Speaker 5: just more impressed when you're on television than they are
Speaker 5: by live performance.
Speaker 1: For some reason. That's interesting.
Speaker 3: But don't you feel like it's the same lobe in
Speaker 3: your brain that like is good at like filing away,
Speaker 3: like what you're going to stay next on stage without
Speaker 3: a prompter and what you say on that.
Speaker 5: I actually think No, I think they're different, which it
Speaker 5: actually your show so perfect because you get the props
Speaker 5: for both. You're like I'm reading and I'm doing something live.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, sure, good for you coded it is.
Speaker 1: It's very this coded for visual medium. I'm patting my
Speaker 1: head and rubbing my tummy, which you're doing so well.
Speaker 2: It's not bad.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I'm not doing it badly,
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 4: I like, and I could bet I could do a
Speaker 4: prompter while I do yeah, yeah, no hesitation.
Speaker 2: I already fucked up.
Speaker 3: Our first interaction in years Taylor, where we saw each
Speaker 3: other in the lobby. I was like, it's so nice
Speaker 3: to me. I've been a fan and I remember that
Speaker 3: the JFL sat and you did it so classically. You
Speaker 3: were like, we did meet that one time at JFL.
Speaker 3: Joel Kan Booster introduced us.
Speaker 1: No, and I shouldn't have even said no. I should
Speaker 1: have pretended because it.
Speaker 4: Was so brief the way we met. We met on
Speaker 4: the street.
Speaker 5: Joel Can Booster and I said hi to each other
Speaker 5: and like introduced us so quickly, and I shouldn't have
Speaker 5: even said anything.
Speaker 1: I should have said nice to meet you too. I
Speaker 1: wish there were cameras around for that moment, because we
Speaker 1: need a reality travel.
Speaker 2: You need real everyone does.
Speaker 3: You and your siblings would make a great reality what's
Speaker 3: your dad like? Just that would great?
Speaker 5: We don't speak to our dad, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: But yes, the four of us are very funny and great.
Speaker 1: Sure premise it conflict there, but your dad's such great
Speaker 1: fodder for the show though, for your your stets, Yeah
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: I think everybody's parents are great fodder for I mean
Speaker 5: everybody doing stand up you talk about your family? Ye,
Speaker 5: like yeah, total is it that Flannery O'Connor quote or
Speaker 5: she said anyone with a childhood has enough material for
Speaker 5: the rest of their life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like flannering and then and then and then
Speaker 3: it was and then it becomes a terrifying story about
Speaker 3: you know a woman. I think Flannering O'Connor wrote Baby Reindeer. Wow,
Speaker 3: Baby Reindeer is a very O'Connor. That's why that's what
Speaker 3: it's catching on. So that's like there's a huge netflix
Speaker 3: for him today. Wait a minute, I've you just like
Speaker 3: lit up something in me. Flannering O'Connor really buffed me
Speaker 3: up in college and I haven't gotten the chance to
Speaker 3: talk about that woman. Okay, there's a ghost tour in
Speaker 3: Savannah where you go, you go, you go to a
Speaker 3: house and you'really.
Speaker 1: Did hit the hip you did.
Speaker 2: You actually plowed as hippocat No.
Speaker 5: And this is great because Savannah. I'm going there on
Speaker 5: tour in the fall. It's not announcedent, but we are
Speaker 5: doing that. And it's the one city I haven't performed
Speaker 5: in that I've always wanted to go to.
Speaker 1: It's such a great city. We performed there like years
Speaker 1: ago with our skeedch group and it was like Charleston. Oh,
Speaker 1: take back everything I've said. They are not the same,
Speaker 1: a similar city.
Speaker 4: Keep it in keep give me equally haunted, equally haunted
Speaker 4: that say, in Augustine, Florida.
Speaker 1: Ever been there? No, go there? Drink from the uh
Speaker 1: what is it? The fountain of Youth? Oh, and that's
Speaker 1: where it is. Go see a haunted house. Oh well,
Speaker 1: be sorry. You'll feel a little sick from the water,
Speaker 1: and you'll feel a little disturb from the ghost.
Speaker 2: The Mountain of Youth.
Speaker 3: Now, was that like a conky stador in like the
Speaker 3: thirteen hundreds? Being like, we found it and it's just
Speaker 3: like a hot.
Speaker 2: Spring very much.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, yeah, well it doesn't actually keep you young,
Speaker 1: I've aged. I mean, you do look great, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I absolutely lathered on moistries of here, because
Speaker 1: the other thing about New is you.
Speaker 2: Drink so much here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you drink so much. You drink alcohol all the
Speaker 1: time because you're always like out and fun and doing
Speaker 1: things in New York. And then you go to LA
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm putting on a face mask, I'm
Speaker 1: getting a facial I'm drinking only water tonight. If I
Speaker 1: have a diet coke, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: If you need to treat I got drunk for the
Speaker 5: first time last September in New York for the first time,
Speaker 5: for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: Was well, I sold out.
Speaker 5: Radio City twice and my ex fiance came to a
Speaker 5: show and I was like, I've earned this. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: can get drunk now. And so we went to is
Speaker 5: it Maurice's Crisis or Crises, which.
Speaker 4: Is whatever whatever you want depending on whatever you say
Speaker 4: right now forever. So that's where I got drunk and
Speaker 4: it was perfect. Yeah, it was so nice.
Speaker 5: So there's just a video of me drunkenly singingly miss
Speaker 5: oh perfect.
Speaker 2: So you did the whole thing at Maurice Crisis, Yes, you.
Speaker 1: Did the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where I just got drunk and was like venmoing
Speaker 5: people and to find out.
Speaker 1: That that's who you are as a drunk person sun
Speaker 1: ass and sings lames. It was really wrong.
Speaker 5: What's yours? That's what they were, that's what they were playing.
Speaker 5: I didn't like request it, but they played it.
Speaker 3: So you sang every part basically, Yes, you were the
Speaker 3: John you were?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, speaking of lame is, do you still have the
Speaker 3: Hugh jack and glove? I gave it to my that's
Speaker 3: my manager.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I like framed it and I also got
Speaker 5: a Sutton Foster glove, so I framed both of them
Speaker 5: and I gave it to her at the taping for
Speaker 5: Have It All.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's amazing. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: So you leave out the Sutton Foster part of the
Speaker 3: story because it's not going to play.
Speaker 2: And let's say, yeah, exactly, it's not. She plays all
Speaker 2: the time in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm going to take this show to Australia, London.
Speaker 5: It'll work there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it may not be. I love Sutton Foster, We
Speaker 4: love Sutton love Sutton Foster.
Speaker 1: I mean, does it all?
Speaker 2: Does it all?
Speaker 1: And but does it all? I mean I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a role on Broadway. She hasn't played. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: not dragging her. Yeah, I'm saying she opens a lot
Speaker 1: of shops. It's like her and like a few other
Speaker 1: people that, like, you know, if they're in a show, like,
Speaker 1: people are going to go see it. And that's why
Speaker 1: I'm just like, let's get more of let's get that,
Speaker 1: let's develop more stars, let's make that. And I'm so
Speaker 1: happy now we got to talk about this because that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing over at CBS.
Speaker 4: We that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: My god, we're creating new stars. I'm actually surprised to
Speaker 1: hear that you screen tested for it. I would have
Speaker 1: thought they developed this around you, right.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, oh no, I mean this show is
Speaker 4: it's a reimagining of at Midnight, So like this is
Speaker 4: not you know, it's it's different than at.
Speaker 1: Midnight in Pitch at Midnight And they were like, you
Speaker 1: know this is something hunt.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, absolutely no.
Speaker 5: I mean they hired Joe Firestone before they hired me, Like,
Speaker 5: I think they screen tested a few people, and so
Speaker 5: that was interesting to do all this press before the
Speaker 5: show came out, before I was even hosting the show,
Speaker 5: and they're asking me about it and they're like, so
Speaker 5: your show and I'm like.
Speaker 4: Not my show, like interesting in a good way. I
Speaker 4: love that about it.
Speaker 5: I'm like I am an employee, like I'm part of
Speaker 5: a team. And it's why I wanted to do it,
Speaker 5: because stand up such a solo sport, you know, And
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I would love to come home
Speaker 5: and work with a group of people that I really like,
Speaker 5: which I do, and you know, it would take something
Speaker 5: like that to get me off the road in a
Speaker 5: significant way. But yeah, I really I was very uncomfortable
Speaker 5: doing press because I was having a hard time going like, yep,
Speaker 5: this is the Taylor Tomlinson hour.
Speaker 4: It's really not at all.
Speaker 5: I have a very specific job, which is like make
Speaker 5: three other people look good every night.
Speaker 4: Like if I'm funny, it's like a bonus.
Speaker 2: Well it usually happens.
Speaker 1: It feels really good when you got to go do
Speaker 1: the show because like, it feels so great when you
Speaker 1: get there because the writers are all great. I mean yes,
Speaker 1: for people out there that don't know, Sam Tiger rights
Speaker 1: for the show. Joe Bierstone is the head writer. This
Speaker 1: is Michelle Davis. Yeah, she's amazing. We met because we
Speaker 1: did Survivor. We did it Quarantine Survivor together. What we
Speaker 1: were both in the same We didn't know each other.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know she was a comedy writer. She's great,
Speaker 1: but we were just both in the same online virtual Survivor,
Speaker 1: which was all on Slack. And I remember they voted
Speaker 1: her out too early because she was a personality threat.
Speaker 1: Her personality was too good. I made I made it
Speaker 1: a really long way because they were like winning, you
Speaker 1: can keep her around. No one wants him to win.
Speaker 1: But that's true, you're not threatening enough, no in the personality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you wish she were sitting down on the show.
Speaker 5: Yes, Honestly, I'm surprised at how I have to wear
Speaker 5: heels almost every episode, Like we've kind of I have
Speaker 5: gotten my stylas Terror, who is amazing. She was putting
Speaker 5: me in the highest platforms you'd ever seen, and you know,
Speaker 5: everyone else in the show is like, you know, you
Speaker 5: don't have to wear that. You're behind the podium for
Speaker 5: most of it. I thought I'd be behind the podium
Speaker 5: the whole show, but one of I think the network
Speaker 5: notes was like we want one one act to be
Speaker 5: out in front of the podiums.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to see them shoes.
Speaker 4: We want to see the shoe. We we just changed it.
Speaker 5: Where I was starting the show standing out front, introducing everybody,
Speaker 5: and we just changed it. Now I introduce people from
Speaker 5: behind the podium and it's so safe back there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you can hold those things. Yeah, No, I've never I
Speaker 5: don't think i've ever. I never thought I was going
Speaker 5: to be sitting down. So it wasn't like I showed
Speaker 5: up and was.
Speaker 3: Like, what right, you know? But can I And I'm
Speaker 3: sure You've been told this many times. What I love
Speaker 3: about you is that you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, this is worth discussing because I
Speaker 3: think you are one of our great pacers. You are
Speaker 3: such a good paster on stage in your stand up
Speaker 3: nice and the spotlight really you really give the person
Speaker 3: behind the spotlight like you give them their paycheck because
Speaker 3: they are just following you.
Speaker 1: You're moving and what I love it for a minute,
Speaker 1: but it's all hitting. You can just tell you are out.
Speaker 1: You perform a ton right Like Yeah, I was reading
Speaker 1: that you you were one of the highest grossing comedians
Speaker 1: and I guess it was like one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: shows in a year. That is wild. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a lot because we just kept adding,
Speaker 5: which was you know, as.
Speaker 1: You love being out there or because you're just like,
Speaker 1: are you someone that like likes your schedule to be full?
Speaker 1: I think both.
Speaker 5: I think I like being out there. And there's like
Speaker 5: once you start selling tickets, you just didn't sell tickets
Speaker 5: for so long that everyone's kind of going like, you better,
Speaker 5: what's the fra make hay while the sunshines.
Speaker 1: That I'll tuxt her, not knowing if she's said or alive,
Speaker 1: fully dead, fully dead? I learned today I don't know
Speaker 1: who that is. She rode great.
Speaker 4: I love her and great guys that put herself into
Speaker 4: Actually yeah she was like Stevany Myren Twilight.
Speaker 2: Cameo make kay, make Hay.
Speaker 5: You know you do feel like And also when during COVID,
Speaker 5: I thought I was one of the people it's done.
Speaker 5: I was like, it's over. There was a studio in
Speaker 5: la that had built a stage that was a wall
Speaker 5: of zoom screens, yes, like fifteen feet high, and it
Speaker 5: felt old black mirror. It was crazy, but we did
Speaker 5: it and we were like, I think this is the future.
Speaker 5: I think this is no one's ever going to anything
Speaker 5: live ever again. And then I think once everybody got vaccinated,
Speaker 5: it was actually the total opposite where everybody wanted to
Speaker 5: go and wanted to be seeing live events and experiencing life.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I bring up the pace thing because you
Speaker 3: are stationary standing up in your heels behind a podium,
Speaker 3: but you do you have a handhold with the podium, whereas.
Speaker 4: I'm leaning on it emotionally, and.
Speaker 1: That's what it's there for. It's literally what it's there for.
Speaker 1: The podiums are there to be leaned on. It's actually
Speaker 1: real coature number sixis are there to be leaned on?
Speaker 2: It just is you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4: Did you have fun on the show for real?
Speaker 1: And as I was leaving, it was that thing of
Speaker 1: like everyone being like that was so fun. That was
Speaker 1: so fun. I want to do it again because you
Speaker 1: feel what you were saying is like I guess that
Speaker 1: is like the consummate host thing to do. It's like, right,
Speaker 1: you get there and your job is to have everyone
Speaker 1: around you shine, and you get there and you immediately
Speaker 1: feel like there are so many jokes that are like
Speaker 1: like there for you, and they listen to you about
Speaker 1: what you want to say too, and you get paired
Speaker 1: with a writer and I had Sam and we know
Speaker 1: each other. And there was also so much of him
Speaker 1: in the humor too, which I loved and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was just it was a really good vibehow and
Speaker 1: you should be really proud of that.
Speaker 5: Again, I have literally nothing to do with anything, Like
Speaker 5: I can't take credit for anything about this show. Like
Speaker 5: I did not hire anybody. I'm one of the people
Speaker 5: they hired, and I'm so glad they did because everyone
Speaker 5: they hired is fucking lovely. Like there's not one person
Speaker 5: when I go into work and I'm like, I hope
Speaker 5: I don't run into so and so, Like everybody's so great.
Speaker 5: The writer's room is so talented, Like it is both
Speaker 5: harder and easier than I thought the job was going
Speaker 5: to be. But I mean, again, people being impressed I
Speaker 5: can read. I'm like I usually have to write my
Speaker 5: own shit, right, Like there's nine people writing me great
Speaker 5: jokes every day, Like this is the dream, this is sugestic.
Speaker 3: Are you like sort of reassured that, like you can
Speaker 3: succeed in bow of those like parameters though, Like I
Speaker 3: can nail my own stuff and I can beat the
Speaker 3: delivery system for someone else's things.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, keep all the plate spinning right in case
Speaker 5: this one shatters.
Speaker 1: Right, there's a whole other.
Speaker 5: Then you're like, well, I know you don't buy tickets
Speaker 5: to see me do stand up anymore?
Speaker 4: Did you know I could read?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can actually read quite well. I do it
Speaker 1: almost every night, cold cold.
Speaker 4: Read every morning.
Speaker 5: And the hardest part of that job mispronouncing words in
Speaker 5: the writer's room cold read first off.
Speaker 4: Where I'm like, this is humiliating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And also I would imagine you're pretty like
Speaker 1: literate with pop culture and stuff. But like when there's
Speaker 1: a reference that you don't get, like such as Flannery O'Connor,
Speaker 1: like people could just be talking about her right in
Speaker 1: front of you and you don't even know who she is, right,
Speaker 1: Like that could happen like often, pretty often, But I
Speaker 1: feel like you are on your reference.
Speaker 5: There is I don't know, not always, there's sometimes I
Speaker 5: pretend and then we get to rehearsal and I go, Jack,
Speaker 5: can you explain.
Speaker 4: This joke to me?
Speaker 5: And then the whole control rooms like we don't really
Speaker 5: know either then, or Joe has to explain it to us,
Speaker 5: And like Joe Carson's like, I think it's just dumb,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, I just wanted to make.
Speaker 4: Sure it was just dumb, just dumb, and I'm like, okay, good.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I was embarrassed to ask in front of thirty people
Speaker 5: this morning, but.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we talked about it. That's great.
Speaker 5: And there's also times where they write a really funny
Speaker 5: joke and I'm like, I just have never said that before,
Speaker 5: Like I've never said, like read you to filth, like
Speaker 5: I've never said that, you know where. I'm like, I
Speaker 5: just I'm like, I just can't.
Speaker 1: Sell this, you know. I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 1: gay energy there because I remember like speaking of like
Speaker 1: you wearing shoes and like looking amazing. I actually did
Speaker 1: this gay thing to you.
Speaker 4: Do you remember remembers you never did. I think about
Speaker 4: it every night before I loved it.
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 1: And you also did this. I was like you went
Speaker 1: up and down, yes, because honestly you had earned it.
Speaker 1: But right afterwards, I was just like, did I just
Speaker 1: like be so gay at her? But I was that's
Speaker 1: actually good because I actually am that gay and I
Speaker 1: met this when I did it, Yeah, I meant it.
Speaker 4: It didn't feel empty.
Speaker 2: It was motivating and it was positive. You're not an
Speaker 2: empty gesticulator.
Speaker 1: In fact, the girl today at the coffee shop who
Speaker 1: collapsed when I said that you were coming on the
Speaker 1: show literally goes, oh, I watch our show every night.
Speaker 1: Her suit.
Speaker 4: She watches the show too.
Speaker 1: She watches the show and she watches your stand up.
Speaker 1: She's a huge fan.
Speaker 5: So my favorite part of your episode is there is
Speaker 5: one point where I think James Davis buzzed in before
Speaker 5: you and you went.
Speaker 2: No, that's really my energy, though I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of game shows, even though this
Speaker 1: one's like fake and you know, like you're playing on
Speaker 1: both sides of that game show I've done. I've done
Speaker 1: a lot in that space, weirdly enough, not because I'm
Speaker 1: like passionate about the form. It just I say yes
Speaker 1: the shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there was a moment on we was on Celebrity
Speaker 1: Jeopardy where I screamed no when someone else got a
Speaker 1: thing because it was like, I think it was literally
Speaker 1: like a gay question for me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I felt it was like a Beyonce question, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I felt it was completely unfair that someone
Speaker 1: else should be able to answer.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, this is my category. It was
Speaker 2: like it just didn't feel right, and so I made
Speaker 2: it known audibly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're like, this is TV. Let's run it again.
Speaker 2: Let's funny.
Speaker 4: We don't have to pretend this. We're really playing.
Speaker 1: I mean I got to be on the show with
Speaker 1: Caroline Ray's yeah, come on, yeah, you guys are really connecting.
Speaker 2: I felt definitely connected.
Speaker 4: I mean, all three of you played really well together.
Speaker 1: James, that was like you'd ever met anybody, like nobody
Speaker 1: had met each other. Caroline and I had had like
Speaker 1: an online like fest because she is Henry Persky, my
Speaker 1: ex and my musical director that's like his l a mom,
Speaker 1: so I know her a little bit and she does
Speaker 1: give that energy, but.
Speaker 2: Also just like one of the comics too, which is fun.
Speaker 1: She was so good.
Speaker 2: Yea and Hilda, come were you a Sabrina fan?
Speaker 4: I couldn't religious Household, no Witch, no Witches, no cable.
Speaker 4: I think we had cable, but it was like, I
Speaker 4: don't think we can watch like anything on Nicola.
Speaker 1: Okay, Like they were like Cat is too mean.
Speaker 5: To dog, Like it was like Angelica's too mean to
Speaker 5: the babies, Like it was cat.
Speaker 1: Is too mean to dog. Yeah, Angelica's behaviors were not
Speaker 1: in God's light. But no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: But all so demonic in a way.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, it was unnatural.
Speaker 1: It was unnatural. It was clearly that I don't know,
Speaker 1: was from Hell here to every child and like really
Speaker 1: being in the nightmares of kids, right, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see this is a curious not a phenomenon.
Speaker 3: I just think there was a time when I felt
Speaker 3: so like I was like, what the fuck, like not
Speaker 3: a religious household, but no cable right, so I felt
Speaker 3: like I was going to school like totally huge in
Speaker 3: the dark, totally in the dark. But there were like
Speaker 3: the very religious kids who still had access to it,
Speaker 3: and it made me so jealous of like, see, like
Speaker 3: this should be a thing that like is restricted to you,
Speaker 3: and yet you have it, and yet you are being
Speaker 3: a very like pious child by like not non accessing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, being sheltered as a kid is not a
Speaker 5: good situation. I think I watched Napoleon Dynamite through other kids,
Speaker 5: uh huh, quoting it, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I think nap was actually kind of like youth group
Speaker 1: friendly too. I can't remember in it was. I think
Speaker 1: because of the way he dressed and the fact that
Speaker 1: he was so sexually non threatening. I think parents were like,
Speaker 1: this is fine, his t shirts tucked in. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: clearly wearing clothes too.
Speaker 2: Warm for this heat. That we're okay.
Speaker 3: And I think there was the thing about John Hater
Speaker 3: being Mormon, where I think there was a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of Christians at my school were like, oh no,
Speaker 3: we love Napoleon, like it's the one thing that we
Speaker 3: can watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was happy, happy for y'all.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, but I mean sheltered goes. But it's not
Speaker 5: just you can't watch this it's demonic. There's also just
Speaker 5: what's out, what's popular? Yeah, we're too busy watching veggietails.
Speaker 5: So did you details did.
Speaker 1: You go on like a spree at when you sort
Speaker 1: of got some freedom from that, Like, did you go
Speaker 1: on a pop culture spree?
Speaker 2: Did you say I'm reading every book about a witch?
Speaker 5: Well, I read Harry Potter for like two years, and
Speaker 5: then my dad took us to see the third one
Speaker 5: and was like, these dementors are the devil, these are demons,
Speaker 5: and so took it away devastated, absolutely devastated. And then
Speaker 5: like my senior year of high school, I think I
Speaker 5: saw the last one in theaters with my friends, Like
Speaker 5: it's like a senior activity.
Speaker 1: I don't even care.
Speaker 3: So when it was taken away from you, like what
Speaker 3: were you barred from doing? Like the books and the movies,
Speaker 3: all of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was like obsessed, like obsessed for two years,
Speaker 5: like got me through my mother's death, and it was
Speaker 5: just gone one day and I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: So when people make fun of millennials for liking Harry Potter,
Speaker 5: I'm like, that really got some of us through some shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very much.
Speaker 2: Like one thousand.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just talking about this yesterday because we
Speaker 1: were talking about JK and like what's gone down? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's so shocking that someone can
Speaker 1: so understand the experience of being targeted for like being different,
Speaker 1: et cetera, and she can be this way, but I
Speaker 1: really do. I'm in the Daniel Radcliffe school of like
Speaker 1: if it was important to you, like that's all, it
Speaker 1: can stay important to you, like that are an impact
Speaker 1: that it had on you isn't invalidated by this person
Speaker 1: falling off the deep end whatever and for whatever she believes.
Speaker 1: But I did notice those Harry Potter referencesn't the specialists? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is formative, this is millennial formative,
Speaker 1: very formative.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Also, I listened to your Challengers episode this morning. You did, yes,
Speaker 5: see it well after you did our show. I like
Speaker 5: binge the podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I love this podcast, which I'm sure you're sick of
Speaker 5: hearing because every guest is like, I love this. It's
Speaker 5: so nice to be excited to come to a podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm not like dreading it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I've been so excited.
Speaker 5: But I was so excited to talk to you both
Speaker 5: about Challenging because I saw you posting about it on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Saw it Friday, and I had seen it the night prior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 5: It Saturday afternoon. I can't wait to see it again.
Speaker 5: And I listened to the whole thing because I was like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to be repetitive. I know that already
Speaker 5: covered it. Oh my god. The fucking truro scene start
Speaker 5: to finish, starting from when he pulls the stool over
Speaker 5: with his foot. That shot of the first shot of
Speaker 5: the foot Oh my god, we were. I saw it
Speaker 5: with my sibling and Zach. No Towers was opening for me,
Speaker 5: and yeah, Zach's the best. But the three of us
Speaker 5: saw it, and I was so jealous that you two.
Speaker 5: Did you sit together the same.
Speaker 2: We saw together the second seen it. I saw it
Speaker 2: Thursday because I just couldn't wait again.
Speaker 1: So I was like excited to go the next time too,
Speaker 1: And I tried to keep a secret that I had
Speaker 1: seen it, but I couldn't hold it in. I could not,
Speaker 1: So did you.
Speaker 5: Your theater was like excited. They were like cheering and
Speaker 5: laughing and all that.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 5: See, I was so jealous when I heard that because
Speaker 5: ours was quiet, but I actually think ours was just
Speaker 5: as into.
Speaker 4: It was totally packed, but everybody was like nobody was talking.
Speaker 5: Huh a whole movie. I mean, barely breathing the whole movie.
Speaker 5: Not to do spoilers, but just as vague as I
Speaker 5: can be. The racket part, which we also when it happened,
Speaker 5: because we were just sitting there like like, I don't
Speaker 5: think Zach and I were breathing for like a minute.
Speaker 5: It's in motion, and then it finally happened. I think
Speaker 5: we both went, yeah, just thank you.
Speaker 1: And you know what you were pointing at. You were
Speaker 1: pointing at incredible scripting, which is aspirational screenwriting. This is
Speaker 1: is it justin Kurritzky's Yeah, this is like even though
Speaker 1: you knew it was coming. And also credit to Luca
Speaker 1: Guardnino because like you knew he was going to do
Speaker 1: that to signal it. But what was great about that
Speaker 1: scene was watching him decide whether yeah, and so even
Speaker 1: if you saw it coming, the moral conundrum of is
Speaker 1: he about to tell his secret right now? And that
Speaker 1: if you felt like you were ahead of it, like
Speaker 1: that part still it like kept that tension up. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, I don't think everyone did see it coming. For
Speaker 5: the record, I'm not like, oh, that was so obviously.
Speaker 5: We all work in entertainment. We saw it coming from
Speaker 5: a mile away.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I would say, though, like you were saying,
Speaker 3: you were saying on this episode that like it is
Speaker 3: not so telegraphed. The way that that information is first
Speaker 3: planted is not like so obvious.
Speaker 2: It's not like Chekhov's gun when you're like, that's coming back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like he does it, and it's this fun
Speaker 1: moment in the movie. I don't know what it means,
Speaker 1: and then in the moment at the end when you
Speaker 1: realize it's coming, you're like, holy fuck, what is this
Speaker 1: gonna push it to? Yeah? And then where it pushes
Speaker 1: it to is I believe signature, iconic important.
Speaker 2: I love it well.
Speaker 3: You and Zach were doing there with the pointing it's
Speaker 3: reminding me of this thing. Okay, So you were on
Speaker 3: Stradio Lab Perfect Perfect episode. You were saying, how like,
Speaker 3: if it's like a comedy bit that can work anywhere,
Speaker 3: rather than like an alt thing where you're just performing
Speaker 3: to the comedians in the audience, if it's a comedy
Speaker 3: bit that can work anywhere, a comedian won't.
Speaker 1: Laugh haha, but they'll go that's fucking great. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like, that's your response to like seeing something that you
Speaker 3: like just know is sublime. And rather than being like ah,
Speaker 3: which we were in our theater, you and Zach were
Speaker 3: like right there, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Which is the hardest part about after midnight, maybe that
Speaker 5: I have to make my face and voice do what
Speaker 5: my heart is doing when people have a good joke.
Speaker 1: Is I can't just go that's.
Speaker 5: Good, and you have to really make yourself audibly laugh yeah,
Speaker 5: which has not come naturally.
Speaker 2: When do you think that's stopped? Were you ever a laugher?
Speaker 4: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I mean you're a great laugher though.
Speaker 5: That's so nice. I'm so glad and it feels real,
Speaker 5: feel good. I mean it is really, the emotion is real.
Speaker 5: It's just the physical act of It's like when you're
Speaker 5: younger and they're like you have resting bitchface and you're like,
Speaker 5: I guess I have to address that, you know.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I've been doing stand.
Speaker 5: Ups since I was sixteen, so it's hard to know
Speaker 5: exactly when I became a dead eyed comedian because I
Speaker 5: can't I'm like a laugher at fifteen, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know, you know what's funny, Like
Speaker 1: I was always a laugher, and then I was. We
Speaker 1: were both laughers through college, Like I remember that was
Speaker 1: a thing. Like we would go to each other's shows
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, they laughed so loud Owen's laughing
Speaker 1: at Matt stuff Matt's and they were like, it's not
Speaker 1: as funny as they're laughing, But we were genuinely were
Speaker 1: like we thought it was yeah, And then I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened, but maybe in like twenties, late twenties,
Speaker 1: like when comedy was the only thing I did feel
Speaker 1: that stop and I don't know what that is. It's
Speaker 1: come back, I think as I've stopped doing explicit comedy
Speaker 1: as much and now do more acting, but like it's
Speaker 1: been nice to feel like entertained again by stand up,
Speaker 1: because that is something when you're around it so much
Speaker 1: as it does start to feel like it's less about
Speaker 1: acknowledging it, like in a visceral laughing way, and more
Speaker 1: about like being like I'm giving them credit for that,
Speaker 1: yes you know, yeah, yeah, and it's important to give
Speaker 1: the credit. Yeah you know. It means something to comics.
Speaker 1: Like That's why I like, I would imagine JFL like
Speaker 1: where we first saw you was like a whole thing
Speaker 1: because it's like there's audiences that are laughing, and also
Speaker 1: the industry is such a thing there, but like there's
Speaker 1: also the other comics there and like the sharing of
Speaker 1: like everyone's comedy. I remember that was a really fun
Speaker 1: night that night that you were performing just for laughs,
Speaker 1: the variety, the variety.
Speaker 5: So I totally forgot we even performed for that. I
Speaker 5: only remember doing the like panel we did, like a
Speaker 5: panel for.
Speaker 3: It, uh huh, truly rip because I know, I know
Speaker 3: there were some people in comedy who were kind of
Speaker 3: like dang dong, the Witch is dead, which when JFL
Speaker 3: kind of stopped growing up in Montreal, it was the
Speaker 3: thing that like got me, you know, like it would
Speaker 3: be a thing where you like go into town in
Speaker 3: the summer and like there would just be like free
Speaker 3: performances outside and like little kid me like sees a
Speaker 3: min do a fucking quabei qua ass thing and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I love this, Like what is this about? And it
Speaker 3: is kind of sad that it's it is this institution
Speaker 3: and like we warn it to an extent, but like
Speaker 3: it is kind of like it's one less outlet for
Speaker 3: like comedians coming up now, which is like kind of
Speaker 3: a bummer.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, not to bring this down.
Speaker 5: Well no, no no, And it is weird when things sort
Speaker 5: of cycle out and something else becomes the thing. Like
Speaker 5: I remember when I got the fifteen Minutes on Netflix.
Speaker 5: I think that same year they offered me the half
Speaker 5: hour on Comedy Central, which was all I ever wanted.
Speaker 5: But then by that point it like wasn't the smartest
Speaker 5: idea to do that because people couldn't find it or
Speaker 5: watch it as they weren't putting it online. Right, So
Speaker 5: like things shift and the thing that was your dream
Speaker 5: as a kid goes away. Like I feel so bad
Speaker 5: for people who wanted to be on Conan and like
Speaker 5: just missed it, Like, oh my god, it sucks because
Speaker 5: I thankfully got to do it a couple of times
Speaker 5: and that was like the dream for years because that's
Speaker 5: what I watched growing up.
Speaker 2: Ah, you were ahead, like this is a thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So starting at sixteen, I think you and I
Speaker 3: have hit the mark where it's the majority of our
Speaker 3: lives now has been us trying to like aspire to comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, have you.
Speaker 4: Been doing this podcast for eight years?
Speaker 1: Eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That's crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: It's just saying we're over four hundred episodes now and
Speaker 1: it feels so weird. It's now been a part of
Speaker 1: our life for while, and like that was like years
Speaker 1: into us doing comedy too, So what you're saying is true.
Speaker 2: It's like half our life we've been trying to do this.
Speaker 3: So, like, do you anticipate any feeling about when you
Speaker 3: hit the that mark? So I guess whatever not to
Speaker 3: like do the math, but like, once you're at that point,
Speaker 3: does it mean anything to you that you're like, I've
Speaker 3: been doing this, this is occupied most of my life.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 5: If I say it explicitly and have it all, I
Speaker 5: think I might say like, I've been doing this for
Speaker 5: half my life. Yeah, because I turned thirty right before
Speaker 5: I filmed that, and yeah, that's almost.
Speaker 1: Started at sixteen. Yeah, so what does that look like
Speaker 1: like you go, because I would imagine, like you said,
Speaker 1: you grew up with a sheltered upbringing, were in churches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, started in churches. Okay, so it's like, what is
Speaker 2: a church? Sts? What is it do?
Speaker 1: A set church? Is it about Leviticus? No?
Speaker 5: I mean some people did. People did a lot of
Speaker 5: church jokes. I didn't have any church jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I had like abstinence, which not every church
Speaker 5: would even let you do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I fell to which I.
Speaker 5: Was like, I'm pro absentence got like I was seventeen
Speaker 5: and I'm like whatever, I'm never whatever. I'm so stupid now,
Speaker 5: But at the time, I was like I'm saying the
Speaker 5: right thing, and they're like don't even bring it up, like,
Speaker 5: don't even talk about sex.
Speaker 1: So funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had the thing where totally different from stand
Speaker 3: up though, where it was like we were doing improv
Speaker 3: in high school and we would go downtown on Mondays, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to the Boobye Metropolis Theater in Denver, Colorado, and it
Speaker 3: would be like fifteen year olds performing with like thirty
Speaker 3: two year old like drunkards wild, but.
Speaker 2: There was totally normal to us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is what we want to do and
Speaker 3: like yeah, but those shows we would say like it
Speaker 3: was to get our suck out. It was ye was
Speaker 3: thrust to bomb and bomb and bomb and bombing and bomb.
Speaker 3: Wo'd be comfortable with bombing? Yeah, I'm sure it's not
Speaker 3: the same with you, but like.
Speaker 4: No, it is really absolutely Yeah, No, you suck for
Speaker 4: so long. Yeah, stand up you suck for and.
Speaker 2: That had to be terrible to suck in a church.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think churches are a weirdly sorry took me
Speaker 5: a minute. I hate it when you suck again, what
Speaker 5: people are I actually think if you were clean, they
Speaker 5: were actually too supportive. Where I'm performing for like hundreds,
Speaker 5: if not thousands of people for fifteen minutes when I'd
Speaker 5: been on stage less than thirty times, yeah, and making
Speaker 5: a couple hundred dollars, Like that's insane. R talk about
Speaker 5: a safe, supportive space. And then by the time I
Speaker 5: was going up in clubs when I was eighteen in
Speaker 5: San Diego, people were like, how'd you get so polished
Speaker 5: on stage? And I'm like, I got too much stage
Speaker 5: time too early, just because I was clean. And it's
Speaker 5: such a small scene, if you could even call that circuit,
Speaker 5: I would say.
Speaker 1: And so when you're that age, like and you're starting
Speaker 1: to do stand up, like but you've had the upbringing
Speaker 1: that you had, like who are the icons?
Speaker 2: Like who do you look up to?
Speaker 1: Like Brian Reagan?
Speaker 5: Okay, you can listen to there's a serious XM clean
Speaker 5: comedy station.
Speaker 1: That was the one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5: Was like Brian Reagan and Jim Gas again. And then
Speaker 5: they're like, hey, Mitch Hedberg actually okay, Like Mitch was okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: he was a lot. Yeah, I mean not every single one.
Speaker 5: He did swear sometimes, you know, there were certain ones.
Speaker 1: Were there not a lot of female stand ups. Then
Speaker 1: at the time you Madigan at so good, you feel
Speaker 1: like at that time, like a lot of female stand
Speaker 1: ups were sort of like airing on the side of
Speaker 1: like edgier because they felt like maybe they felt like
Speaker 1: they had something to prove or literally did because they're
Speaker 1: just they weren't giving them the time and the space,
Speaker 1: so that probably made them something that was outside of
Speaker 1: your viewing habits because they were not appropriate. Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, it was like Kathleen and Ellen is like who
Speaker 5: you could listen to comfortably with your parents in the car.
Speaker 4: Sure, And I don't know.
Speaker 5: I get annoyed when people go like, isn't it just
Speaker 5: such a boys club?
Speaker 4: And you're like shot up. No, like not anymore.
Speaker 1: The Internet.
Speaker 5: It hasn't been for years, but you know, fifteen years,
Speaker 5: isn't that long ago that or even ten years ago that.
Speaker 1: That was such a thing.
Speaker 5: Like I remember Bride'smaids came out my senior year of
Speaker 5: high school and it was like, hi about formative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like insane. They were like so many
Speaker 4: funny women in one.
Speaker 5: Movie and they let them make this and it's so wild,
Speaker 5: And again that's not really that long ago. But now
Speaker 5: we're like, oh, we have girls trip, we have joy, right,
Speaker 5: like we have so many of those examples now, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're you know, it's easy to forget.
Speaker 1: That's totally.
Speaker 2: While we're in this zone, we should ask the central
Speaker 2: question of the podcast.
Speaker 1: Taylor Tomlinson, what is the culture that made you say
Speaker 1: culture is for me?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 5: I thought about this a lot, A lot of things
Speaker 5: I could say. I think the culture that made me
Speaker 5: say culture was for me was Baz Luhrman's Romeo and
Speaker 5: Juliet Oh in ninth grade, good for you, thank you
Speaker 5: when we all good, when we all thank you so much,
Speaker 5: when we were all like, do I understand Shakespeare? Like
Speaker 5: you're fourteen, You're like, I get it. And then you
Speaker 5: could watch Clueless and be like, this is also Shakespeare. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's Jane O's but like Shakespeare. Yeah, You're like I
Speaker 5: totally get the You're like it's a book, and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh okay, Like you just felt like you were.
Speaker 2: So in both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it really.
Speaker 5: It just because my sibling and I actually we watched
Speaker 5: some of it last night because I was like, I
Speaker 5: gotta remember this movie, and I think it holds up.
Speaker 4: It's oh yeah, I think it's so good.
Speaker 1: It holds up at the very least as a shampoo commercial.
Speaker 1: I mean, is giving you Guarnier fruit tees water went
Speaker 1: down fish tank commercial honestly, Yeah, the fish tank culture thing.
Speaker 1: Bring back the.
Speaker 3: Fish tank such a seventies eighties thing that like really
Speaker 3: died maybe with that movie.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I can't think of another one. I can't think
Speaker 1: of another fish tank, you know what I mean? Well,
Speaker 1: the one Monique Samuel's had in her house on Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Potomac. Oh, sure she's she's not in front
Speaker 1: of it, but that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: I would say that that movie was not only a
Speaker 1: Leo moment, but that was that was the Clardines moment. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was after my.
Speaker 4: She's fresh off of my so called life and little Women.
Speaker 1: You have to imagine like she could have made like
Speaker 1: Kate Win's lily Choices and choice Titanic. Yes, this is wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now did you see this before or after Titanic? Oh?
Speaker 4: Because I think I saw Titanic first.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So so we had the same order of
Speaker 3: this Leo fever Leo fever and then you go back
Speaker 3: and watch for Me and Juliet and it is just
Speaker 3: God blessed Jack Dawson. But there's something about Leo playing
Speaker 3: Romeo that is the actual awakening.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Well, he's wearing a suit, and he's.
Speaker 3: Wearing a suit, he's wearing he's wearing armor, he's wearing
Speaker 3: like yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's the one outfit in Titanic, right, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean he's And then he cleans.
Speaker 4: Up and you're like, yeah he does, but again for
Speaker 4: a second, and they slick his hair back and it
Speaker 4: actually is not as.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work, you know what. I understand it for people,
Speaker 2: it's not for me.
Speaker 4: I want to And he goes downstairs and he takes
Speaker 4: off the jacket.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. He had that insane side bang too
Speaker 1: that everyone tried to do, like that that moment, this.
Speaker 3: Swoop woop, the swoop. But that's really can I I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be annoying. We did a sketch on us now,
Speaker 3: so good, thank you loved it was great.
Speaker 1: It was so good.
Speaker 3: I get an email and I have I've been too
Speaker 3: scared to reply.
Speaker 1: Can I should I just do it? What? I don't
Speaker 1: know what reply?
Speaker 2: I get two calls from an from an unknown number.
Speaker 1: What is this? Then I get an email bazzler, shut up,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it.
Speaker 2: And then I cut it out of it if it
Speaker 2: feels too but email, you can't cut it out. This
Speaker 2: is the thing. I have not replied to him, and
Speaker 2: I'm reading. I think we're going to.
Speaker 1: See what the contents of the email are and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna Okay, he's not mad, he's not mad. Okay.
Speaker 3: The subject line is I wish you'd been around when
Speaker 3: I was casting. Don't tell you, and hey boen, this
Speaker 3: is a note from a fellow Aussie. First, I wanted
Speaker 3: to how well you Neil Mila reginas Now if only
Speaker 3: he'd been around when I was casting? Jokes aside, I
Speaker 3: love that you Okay, Yeah, anyway, this is all very
Speaker 3: very sweet.
Speaker 1: How would you feel about a coffee you gotta get?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 5: It's not obnoxious, and it's good because now if he
Speaker 5: had any feelings about like, oh, neering, didn't respond. Now
Speaker 5: it's out there that you're like, I was too scared
Speaker 5: you too much?
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was at the same house party as baz
Speaker 1: Lerman in La and he hangs out. This guy hangs
Speaker 1: out at me. I'm just saying it was after one am.
Speaker 1: You were not getting coffee you were singingly miss I
Speaker 1: was not. It was just so funny to see him
Speaker 1: out in the world because he's one of those directors
Speaker 1: that's like also a star. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like and they're out there, but like he's a star
Speaker 1: just being the director. He didn't start as like a personality.
Speaker 1: You see that white silver head and you're like, you
Speaker 1: are that girl? Yeah that's yeah, they are so Romeo
Speaker 1: and Juliet does that. So you're a beast freak. Yeah
Speaker 1: I liked I like, did you guys? Like?
Speaker 5: I mean, now you're getting coffee, beast, so now maybe
Speaker 5: you can't speak, we can still talk about our Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: great did you like Great Gatsby?
Speaker 1: I didn't see it.
Speaker 4: You didn't see it? Oh thank god?
Speaker 1: So you don't say I liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked it, but a lot of people, like you
Speaker 4: should have seen it.
Speaker 1: I thought he was great.
Speaker 2: Harry. Harry was so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the time you canon in that It was
Speaker 1: Toby Maguire. No, no, it was no, no, no, he was.
Speaker 2: He was no, no, he was sorry.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, I didn't see Okay, look it up, but
Speaker 1: I didn't say.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I want to say, I want to see.
Speaker 1: I was going to say yes.
Speaker 4: But I thought I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Elizabeth, Wow, yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yes, it had a great cast.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god. Honestly, do you like Hanna?
Speaker 1: I do. I recently got into Alanna and now it's
Speaker 1: a large part of my personality.
Speaker 4: But you never were before.
Speaker 1: Know what's funny is we were saying that we think
Speaker 1: that the millennial generation either really fucking gets her or
Speaker 1: really doesn't.
Speaker 4: And what I blame is the SNL performance. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: because remember when she came out you're talking about this, Yes, m.
Speaker 1: Did that SNL performance, and it kind of was like
Speaker 1: I was really following SNL at the time, like obsessed,
Speaker 1: and I remember the narrative wasn't great about that, and
Speaker 1: then christ and we came out and did that wag
Speaker 1: end update character and like thatthrope to be like to
Speaker 1: defend her.
Speaker 3: Let's just like Nile, let's just cool down, Like this
Speaker 3: is crazy. Everyone's losing their minds over this woman. Yeah,
Speaker 3: in a weird way.
Speaker 1: But in that regard, like the conversation was so about
Speaker 1: something else that wasn't her music. And I also don't
Speaker 1: think my taste was like refined, not that it necessarily
Speaker 1: is now, but I can listen to her music now
Speaker 1: and like really appreciate how incredible the songwriting is, both
Speaker 1: yeah and melodically, and also when you look at the
Speaker 1: past ten fifteen years, like just how much she shaped
Speaker 1: the sound of all these girls, because it's almost the
Speaker 1: same impact that like the style of saying Mariah and
Speaker 1: Whitney and Selene had on, like Christina Aguilera and like
Speaker 1: Disciples in that regard, it's happening again now with like
Speaker 1: Alna Delray into like Billie Eilish and Camila Cabello and
Speaker 1: like you know you just Taylor Swift, like you just
Speaker 1: and they're not shy either about saying she's mother.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In my coffee shop in La, the girls the girls
Speaker 1: love Lana, and I told them Taylor, and the one
Speaker 1: girl goes, wait, I love Lana gen Z wait, I
Speaker 1: love Lana, And then I go, you love her. She goes,
Speaker 1: she's my mother. Wide I directly, she's my mother. It
Speaker 1: was very good. That's so funny.
Speaker 5: It's so funny all the little isms from gen Z.
Speaker 5: Because I have three younger Siblings's times I feel so
Speaker 5: old because I'm like, that's so funny. How you do
Speaker 5: that and they're like, oh, this is like a thing
Speaker 5: we all do. Yeah that I thought they like made up.
Speaker 2: You have to start doing that.
Speaker 1: I have you have just show when you think something
Speaker 1: is funny, just like, oh it's so cool. Old I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm so old.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I do the hair behind the ear and I'm like,
Speaker 5: shut up, you're thirty.
Speaker 1: Well it's a little yeah. Oh I've been doing that
Speaker 1: since a young age. And I have nothing here. We're
Speaker 1: just gay.
Speaker 2: You are the youth. You are the youth.
Speaker 4: We're sitting you are the youth.
Speaker 3: We're too wizard gay men in their mid thirties and
Speaker 3: we're telling you you are a young child.
Speaker 1: You turn thirty and I had a rush of jealousy.
Speaker 1: Really no, not really. I actually thinks all the same
Speaker 1: age once you hit thirty and like all the same
Speaker 1: you were all the same age.
Speaker 2: And also it kind of gets better.
Speaker 1: You couldn't pay me to be in my twenties again,
Speaker 1: you fuck no, no, fuck no, but you really I
Speaker 1: think you really provoked thought within me when you talk
Speaker 1: about turning thirty and have it all where it's like,
Speaker 1: is the life not to get too existential, but like,
Speaker 1: is this the life that like we envisioned for ourselves,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love the metaphor of like being on a freeway
Speaker 3: and like you're in one lane that's backed up, and
Speaker 3: then you switch to the other and then you get
Speaker 3: to switch back to the other.
Speaker 1: Like that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like maybe I've been in the
Speaker 3: same lane too long career wise, right where I'm like.
Speaker 4: You feel that way, Well, I'm like I don't have
Speaker 4: breaking quit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where this is where I now.
Speaker 4: Get to one email from basle and quit as.
Speaker 1: We can blame your special yes, exactly the stuff that
Speaker 1: you said made him quit.
Speaker 4: Do you feel that way though? I've been in comedy
Speaker 4: for too long.
Speaker 2: No, not comedy.
Speaker 3: I've just been like it's just been like and I'm
Speaker 3: super I'm so lucky. This is constantly what the theme
Speaker 3: is in therapy of like, yeah, like I don't know
Speaker 3: how to like operate outside of this system.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Do you feel like that?
Speaker 1: Matt? Honestly, I'm lucky in that I have a lot
Speaker 1: of different aspects to like what make up.
Speaker 4: I'm really lucky that I just have so many.
Speaker 5: I can sing really well it's just there's a lot
Speaker 5: that there's a lot of tools in my tool belt, whereas
Speaker 5: you guys have like a wrench, and that's it.
Speaker 1: I was trying.
Speaker 4: I can't say it, but I should say say it
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 1: I don't ever get bored because I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't have a steady job, like actually a majority of
Speaker 1: things I've done have only gone one season. And I
Speaker 1: try not to take anything personally because I'm such a
Speaker 1: small part of everything. But in that regard, I always
Speaker 1: feel like I'm always learning, you know what I mean like,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I wouldn't have traded anything in
Speaker 1: my career so far, even though there have been times
Speaker 1: where I felt like when I compare myself to you,
Speaker 1: which just happens when you're in like a very close
Speaker 1: relationship with someone and you grow. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, what would it be like
Speaker 1: to have a job all the time that that constantly
Speaker 1: demanded so much of my energy? And I think it
Speaker 1: will be twofold one. I think it makes you into
Speaker 1: like a machine. I I think like I have seen
Speaker 1: like you've always been sharp and great, but like just
Speaker 1: the way that you prepare now, the way that you're
Speaker 1: on top of things, you're confidence as a performer.
Speaker 5: I think that the listeners Matt's talking to Bohen yeah,
Speaker 5: not me. I just can't say, Eyeline. I just want
Speaker 5: to make sure they know.
Speaker 1: But it's the same with you too, though, because when
Speaker 1: I one hundred and thirty shows in a year, yeah,
Speaker 1: and go out and doing that, like you become like
Speaker 1: a machine.
Speaker 2: And I feel like my.
Speaker 1: Experience in the industry and with my art is different
Speaker 1: because I have like a lot going on, and I
Speaker 1: think it's just it's, honestly two experiences that I think
Speaker 1: make us very uh compatible honestly as comedy partners because
Speaker 1: we look at things really differently but have a really
Speaker 1: similar sensibility. That's just thinking about us together. But as
Speaker 1: an individual, like I never beat myself up about like
Speaker 1: not getting this or not having booked that or whatever,
Speaker 1: because again maybe that's thirties too. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, what's the point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'll say I really relate to what
Speaker 5: you were saying about feeling like you were in the
Speaker 5: same lane for a long time too, because that's part
Speaker 5: of why I took the job at after minute, it's
Speaker 5: honestly One of the main reasons I took the job
Speaker 5: is that I was doing my dream job, which was
Speaker 5: touring theaters doing stand up and I was starting to
Speaker 5: feel like, oh am I going to get stunted if
Speaker 5: I'm just going out in front of audiences that paid
Speaker 5: to see me, want to see me like me already,
Speaker 5: and I'm touring with the same two people who are
Speaker 5: like my tour manager and my one of my best friends. Like,
Speaker 5: how am I going to keep growing as a person
Speaker 5: if I'm just doing whatever I want all day and
Speaker 5: then going out to applause at night and then I
Speaker 5: come home and I recover for two days, and then
Speaker 5: I go back out there. Like I loved being on
Speaker 5: the road and I didn't like being home, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's not healthy. So I took this job because I
Speaker 5: thought I need to have a job. What you're saying
Speaker 5: of going what would I be like with a job?
Speaker 5: What would I be like with that structure? What would
Speaker 5: I be like with somebody saying you have to go
Speaker 5: do this, Like you have to go to this dinner,
Speaker 5: you have to go to this luncheon. And it has
Speaker 5: been very strained and at times annoying. Yeah, but every
Speaker 5: time I get annoyed by those asks that aren't really
Speaker 5: ask their demands from a network, I go, oh, but
Speaker 5: this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted to be
Speaker 5: a part of a team and a larger machine and
Speaker 5: know what it feels like to have some things outside
Speaker 5: of my control, because otherwise, how am I supposed to
Speaker 5: keep developing and maturing as a human being without just
Speaker 5: going on stage every year and still talking like I'm
Speaker 5: twenty three, right?
Speaker 1: You know? I think that all that's important is that
Speaker 1: you feel challenged and good about what you do, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's like, And the second it
Speaker 1: starts to feel like that's not true anymore, I feel
Speaker 1: like I would just get nervous because it would mean
Speaker 1: that I was becoming less sharp and good at what
Speaker 1: I was doing. So it's less like anyone could like
Speaker 1: you could find something that you love doing and just
Speaker 1: do it, do it, do it, do it, do it,
Speaker 1: but like it will end, and then where will you be?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, so it's like great
Speaker 1: to participate in as many things as possible.
Speaker 6: I think totally, Yeah, would you act?
Speaker 1: You're a very good actor? That was where I thought
Speaker 1: you were going when I first saw you, I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I was like, I can see her leading a sitcom.
Speaker 5: That's so nice. Well, I never wanted to do a sitcom.
Speaker 5: I don't really like from what I hear from friends
Speaker 5: of mine, I don't like a TV schedule, like it
Speaker 5: just seems kind of like a nightmare. I like the
Speaker 5: idea of a movie because it is there's a beginning
Speaker 5: and end, you know, it's not just like year round
Speaker 5: you're doing these crazy days. But again, i'd like stand
Speaker 5: up so much, and I like doing this show so
Speaker 5: much now that if I was going to act in something,
Speaker 5: it would have to be something I was really excited
Speaker 5: about or something I wrote, which is, as you know,
Speaker 5: what we've been doing for years, like me and my
Speaker 5: writing partner Taylor Tetro have like written scripts and sold
Speaker 5: them and that's been so great because even if things
Speaker 5: don't get made, which nothing ever does, right, but when
Speaker 5: things at least get sold, you get the validation. And
Speaker 5: working with her is so rewarding and I feel like
Speaker 5: I learn a lot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Also a lot of times, like those things that percolate
Speaker 1: from way back do come back when like you have
Speaker 1: moments like this and like, now you've really hit astride.
Speaker 2: It's like you know, you never know.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah.
Speaker 5: And look, when I was auditioning for JFL, I don't
Speaker 5: know if you had this experience, but every time I
Speaker 5: auditioned for it, whoever was hosting was somebody who had
Speaker 5: already done it, and they were like, don't expect a deal,
Speaker 5: Like it's not like that anymore.
Speaker 4: They're like, it's over.
Speaker 5: And when I got New Faces, I did get a
Speaker 5: sitcom deal and like developed that and sold it and
Speaker 5: it didn't get made obviously, which thank god it didn't
Speaker 5: because it allowed me to go on the road and
Speaker 5: then eventually do the special that was Quarterlife Crisis.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's one of those things where I feel
Speaker 5: honestly terrible for actors. I think it seems terrible. Audition
Speaker 5: constantly just.
Speaker 2: Acting would drive me.
Speaker 1: Not if that was my only thing. I my hackes
Speaker 1: off the people that put themselves out there again and
Speaker 1: again and again, and then those are so frequent.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm like nerves of steel.
Speaker 1: To do totally totally.
Speaker 2: But I wondered, did they ask you to host the
Speaker 2: Golden Globes?
Speaker 4: No, they didn't have no no, no, I'm not no.
Speaker 1: See I think they would you do it?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they made a huge mistake and not asking
Speaker 2: Oh no.
Speaker 1: I'm not famous enough for that.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Well, you have to be well known. I mean Joe koy.
Speaker 5: Sells and you felt that room going like it's crazy
Speaker 5: that this business does not respect stand up the way
Speaker 5: it respects movies and TV. Of course, yeah, I felt
Speaker 5: the shift getting this show, the sort of congrats and
Speaker 5: attention I got, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, where was this When I was Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we.
Speaker 5: Make more money on the road, right, do you guys
Speaker 5: know that? Like it was so I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't think that I would be the right person to
Speaker 5: do that with if nobody in that room knew who
Speaker 5: I was, because they'd be like what.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like you just get around that though
Speaker 1: by then introing up top and being like, hey, you
Speaker 1: might not know who I am. I host a fucking
Speaker 1: late night show on this network. But like when you
Speaker 1: came out with Stephen and did a bit, I was
Speaker 1: like the Emmys. For the Emmys, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's the host was because I just felt like because
Speaker 1: daddy via com we you sort of speak the same language.
Speaker 2: That would have been an amazing way to launch this
Speaker 2: show too.
Speaker 3: But also whatever I don't know, I feel like they're
Speaker 3: bringing up on stage at late show. Was that that
Speaker 3: was such a great I felt this like power, this energy, whatever,
Speaker 3: but like it was so cool the times that he
Speaker 3: would bring you on to like talk about the show,
Speaker 3: it felt like a great torch pasting annointment.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: I hate this it is and he's amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean he was another reason I wanted
Speaker 5: to do it, because everybody loves working with and for him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I mean him and Conan have this in common
Speaker 5: I've talked about before, is like they're just it just
Speaker 5: seems as if they're always on, They're always hilarious, They're
Speaker 5: always so warm and friendly in a way that just
Speaker 5: does not come naturally to me. And I'm so impressed
Speaker 5: by I mean, yeah, you like touch your heart like
Speaker 5: that hit you.
Speaker 4: Do you feel that way?
Speaker 3: I feel that way, like, oh, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 3: the version of myself that like any given person would
Speaker 3: think I am. And I don't feel like you talk
Speaker 3: about your social.
Speaker 1: Anxiety a lot.
Speaker 3: I feel like you are just kind of like honestly
Speaker 3: who you are, and it is just like a different
Speaker 3: sort of like analog of like your stage persona and
Speaker 3: which is not.
Speaker 1: Good for show business.
Speaker 5: You should be better than what I am. Like, do
Speaker 5: you feel like you're good at being famous?
Speaker 1: No, you don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mats seems like Matt's.
Speaker 1: Good at it. Matt's good at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you seem uncomfortable in a way that makes me
Speaker 5: adore you so much, and I relate to more, Like
Speaker 5: I respect that Matt's really good at it, and I
Speaker 5: can't relate to it.
Speaker 4: I can't relate to it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm just a true extrovert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'm just a true extrovert. And I enjoy
Speaker 1: the part which is like talking about the work, and
Speaker 1: I like entertaining.
Speaker 2: In that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've noticed that about myself too it And
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, you're so annoying that because like we'll
Speaker 1: get requests together and then we'll be like I'd like
Speaker 1: to sit down that day, and I'm like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to sit down run around in a circle.
Speaker 1: I want to drink soda. I think it is like
Speaker 1: it is like a thing that forms you as a
Speaker 1: I don't know what where to trace it back from.
Speaker 1: But I've always had a lot of fucking energy, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I give too much of it
Speaker 1: up and then later I'm really tired. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't notice I'm doing it until later. And I think
Speaker 1: you don't have to be in the entertainment industry to
Speaker 1: understand this. Like sometimes it's like you just give a
Speaker 1: lot socially and professionally to the point where later you're like, wait.
Speaker 2: Where am I right?
Speaker 1: And it gets a little confusing sometimes because like I'm
Speaker 1: dating a lot more now, and sometimes it feels like
Speaker 1: where does the performance of the me end? And where
Speaker 1: am I actually dropping in and listening? Like I felt bad.
Speaker 1: But a few weeks ago, I was out with some
Speaker 1: buddy and I realized like I hadn't been listening to
Speaker 1: what they were saying, because I think I was thinking
Speaker 1: about what I had said and how it had gone over.
Speaker 1: And I was.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, because I I where's the lights coming from
Speaker 5: the bar?
Speaker 1: You know, when you have to get good at knowing
Speaker 1: that dating isn't like a competition or a game that
Speaker 1: you can win. It's like, I feel like I learned
Speaker 1: that and then I forgot it, and so I was
Speaker 1: just like, let's reset, like let's let's talk to a person.
Speaker 2: You're not performing here today.
Speaker 1: But when you do it all the time, it can
Speaker 1: get a little confusing and you bringing up your therapy.
Speaker 2: This is what my therapy is about.
Speaker 1: It is like actually just dropping in and taking a
Speaker 1: breath and not having to be plugged in and excited
Speaker 1: all the time. Like not everything has to be a
Speaker 1: consumed thing or like a give thing. It's like you
Speaker 1: can just sit, Like meditating is not something I understand,
Speaker 1: but I do you do that?
Speaker 5: I can't because I'm anxious, right, not because I'm like
Speaker 5: i want a soda, Like I'm just scared.
Speaker 4: So we got to hear you drown out the noise.
Speaker 1: But that's how my anxiety manifest that I do too much.
Speaker 1: Totally different.
Speaker 5: Was it on SETH that you were talking about how
Speaker 5: you got invited to Was it a party at Taylor
Speaker 5: Swifts And You're like it was a Sunday and I
Speaker 5: needed to sleep And I was like, that is my guy,
Speaker 5: That's exactly how I feel like. Especially starting the show,
Speaker 5: they were like, do you wanna present to the Grammys
Speaker 5: And I was like, no, you have to, and then
Speaker 5: I got stripped so I couldn't.
Speaker 1: But I literally did get stressed.
Speaker 4: I truly did.
Speaker 5: But like there is so much anxiety and panic that
Speaker 5: will happen for me in preparing for things like this,
Speaker 5: no matter how big the opportunity, that it will ruin
Speaker 5: the opportunity.
Speaker 3: And it's the preparation on for the specials, like the
Speaker 3: road for you that that's.
Speaker 5: Easier that the road is prep specials. Yeah, so like
Speaker 5: the process is but like these like big event I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how to exact, Like I don't know
Speaker 5: how to do this, and I'm not comfortable, and it
Speaker 5: also sort of like it's so disenchanting. I'm like, it'll
Speaker 5: emmies for me if I have to stand in that
Speaker 5: line and take a picture of that.
Speaker 1: I don't like the social part of it with other
Speaker 1: people that are there really intimidates me. What I think
Speaker 1: I like is the going and the doing of the thing.
Speaker 1: Like I like going and like doing a bit, or
Speaker 1: I like going and like when I'm on seth or
Speaker 1: like any of these late night things like whatever. I
Speaker 1: love going and doing the show. But sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: I remember last time I was on Seth Myers. I
Speaker 1: had to do like a social media bit with Jennifer
Speaker 1: Hudson and I had to go into her dressing room
Speaker 1: and be like, Hi, I'm Matt.
Speaker 2: You mean a lot to me.
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of yours for a long time
Speaker 1: while her team sort of sat there and we're like oh,
Speaker 1: and like she's so chill that I started to feel
Speaker 1: myself going yeah, and I was like, relax, relax.
Speaker 2: That part drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: Yes, but the doing of the thing, yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 1: But standing there and like when I found out that's
Speaker 1: what a red carpet is a lot of standing and
Speaker 1: yes to see if anyone wants to talk to you
Speaker 1: on the line, and maybe they don't.
Speaker 2: Yes, Like it's like oof, yeah, but then are we
Speaker 2: saying it?
Speaker 3: Like Colbert and Conan are like this rare breed of
Speaker 3: like comedian and performer that like that's just who they are.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 5: So, I mean that's the impression I've gotten. They're the
Speaker 5: two that I've spent the most time with. I mean,
Speaker 5: I've done Seth and he came in and was so
Speaker 5: lovely before it, like you seem so great, Like he
Speaker 5: was so great on your show, so I think some
Speaker 5: people are just like like you met, just wired for it,
Speaker 5: and it's like hard to accept that you can get
Speaker 5: good at it, but it's still not going to become
Speaker 5: like I'm never going to have it in my DNA.
Speaker 1: Like that, right, so the way you had like stand
Speaker 1: up and yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: That's where I feel like myself on stage, even if
Speaker 5: I'm nervous for a show or a taping or whatever,
Speaker 5: like that's who I feel like I am inside, But
Speaker 5: on carpets or whatever, all I'm like, who does anyone
Speaker 5: need a drink?
Speaker 4: Like? Should I be working this event? Like I just can't.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think about doing an Alvira esque character
Speaker 1: on the Red carpets? Sort of just going as a
Speaker 1: another you mistress of the night? Maybe you could do that.
Speaker 4: That would be such a hard turn for me.
Speaker 1: I think you would.
Speaker 4: Thank you so you think.
Speaker 2: This is an amazing compliment that I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Not everyone has a face for wigs.
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't you know you are? You know who has
Speaker 3: a face for wiggs is Sarah Sherman. She transforms yeah
Speaker 3: like you, She's on SNL. You all faces? We don't
Speaker 3: you do? Oh no, no, no, no, no, we're not having
Speaker 3: a discussion. I look the same, and I have so
Speaker 3: many beautiful discussions with the departments there room, Like I
Speaker 3: think this character should not have glasses because then it
Speaker 3: looks too much like me. Like it's like it comes
Speaker 3: that you became that Iceberg. I was like, you love
Speaker 3: that he was.
Speaker 1: You know what's very powerful going in a mustache, Going
Speaker 1: in a thick.
Speaker 2: Mustache is very powerful.
Speaker 1: And you see him begin to think about topping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see the neurons that you see that my follicles
Speaker 1: don't grow. I have a question about Sorry, such a
Speaker 1: hard turn birth order. This new eldest daughter syndrome thing
Speaker 1: is yeah, a lot of yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, elderldest daughter, and it's all true.
Speaker 1: What's this?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: So I think the Times did this whole piece about
Speaker 3: eldest daughter syndrome.
Speaker 2: Is it syndrome or is it I.
Speaker 4: Think it's syndrome, yes, and the Times Yah, just me,
Speaker 4: It's just me and my sister.
Speaker 2: I have eldest daughter energy work. Yes, So what is this?
Speaker 2: What do they say about these girls?
Speaker 1: You're absorbing a lot of this becase, I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of being directed it you.
Speaker 5: A lot of guilt, a lot of like taking on responsibility,
Speaker 5: like a lot of feeling like you have to parent
Speaker 5: your younger siblings and they're like fuck off, Like, which
Speaker 5: is so fair? I saw I saw a TikTok of
Speaker 5: a younger sister who was like something happened where when
Speaker 5: I was a teenager, when I was younger, I really
Speaker 5: like worshiped my older sister and now it like kind
Speaker 5: of shifted where like she wants to be my friend
Speaker 5: and I'm kind of like okay, which is what I
Speaker 5: felt with my youngest sister. Soft the shift, Yeah, where
Speaker 5: for a while I was like, why is she not
Speaker 5: calling me back? And like she's always like yeah, when
Speaker 5: I was a kid, I wanted to be and I'm
Speaker 5: like where's that?
Speaker 4: Like where did that go?
Speaker 1: And then I think she got really smart and was like,
Speaker 1: oh you're trying. What does she do? Yeah, she's in
Speaker 1: grad school right now.
Speaker 5: She's very smart. Yeah yeah, so I'm like, well, how
Speaker 5: can I compete with that?
Speaker 1: I'm a rat.
Speaker 4: Comedian applauded for reading. You read a great thing.
Speaker 1: You're read that shift, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I mean we would get pulled into things, remember like
Speaker 3: seriously TV ri ip like I go in for seriously
Speaker 3: TV stuff sometimes and it was a lot of it
Speaker 3: was reading off like you would like set, you would
Speaker 3: literally write your own thing and send it to them,
Speaker 3: and your own words would be un prompt and I
Speaker 3: would still fuck up.
Speaker 1: It's so unfair that that is like something that you
Speaker 1: kind of have to be good at to do that stuff,
Speaker 1: because some people are the funniest people in the world
Speaker 1: and they're just not quick readers, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Or they're just not like people who can
Speaker 1: like correct on the fly like that. Like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would imagine that. You see that all the time at
Speaker 1: like Table Express and Noel, like certain actors coming in
Speaker 1: and you it's not for everyone like to be able
Speaker 1: to do that and like not only to do it correctly,
Speaker 1: but also to do.
Speaker 2: It in a compelling and funny way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 5: I mean again on becoming disenchanted with the whole entertainment
Speaker 5: industry as you get older. I think at least this
Speaker 5: was how it was when I was younger. You're kind
Speaker 5: of like, I'm gonna be a legend, and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: work really hard and I'm gonna sleep on the floor
Speaker 5: on the airport at five am, and I'm gonna grind
Speaker 5: and do it. And then as you get older, you're like,
Speaker 5: there's so many talented people, right, and I can say,
Speaker 5: go fifteen who deserve what I have more than I do.
Speaker 4: Or just as much.
Speaker 5: That feeling when you're younger, where you're like destined for more,
Speaker 5: you feel special, it just like goes away, I think,
Speaker 5: or it has for me where I'm just always like
Speaker 5: which maybe good because it's replaced by gratitude, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure humility, gratitude, all those things that should be there.
Speaker 5: So many stars have to align for a person to
Speaker 5: be successful in this very unfair business, Like you have
Speaker 5: to be so many different things, like you have to
Speaker 5: be funny and smart and warm to people. I mean
Speaker 5: not always, but yeah, you have to have a bunch
Speaker 5: of things going for you and.
Speaker 1: Luck, yeah, of course, and also the leadership quality which
Speaker 1: comes when your name is on the title. I know
Speaker 1: you're saying, like, oh, it has nothing to do with me,
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with you, but it does
Speaker 1: because like you know, that is your name, and that
Speaker 1: is your you are the engine of the show, and
Speaker 1: so like it is really great. I'm super excited that
Speaker 1: it's like doing as well as it is, Like I
Speaker 1: was saying, like, not only is it doing, but also
Speaker 1: like your fans are very engaged online, like you have
Speaker 1: girls collapsing in coffee shops like the dream, I mean
Speaker 1: the Dream, And so I don't know. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: give yourself all the credit in the world and keep
Speaker 1: shooting for the fucking star so much deserves it as
Speaker 1: much as you.
Speaker 5: You know, you're right, I single handedly, I am responsible
Speaker 5: for any and all success on the show, and anything
Speaker 5: wrong with it isn't my fault.
Speaker 3: You heard her first, but honestly, I do hope you
Speaker 3: hold on to some like one inch tall version of
Speaker 3: like that younger person in you that was like I'm
Speaker 3: going to be a legend or I will be one.
Speaker 3: Like what you've done is really remarkable, I think, and
Speaker 3: I think like humility, gratitude great, but also like there's
Speaker 3: something about that little guy that I think is helpful and.
Speaker 5: You need to tap into it, you know, yeah, when
Speaker 5: you're feeling like an impostor totally.
Speaker 3: I was watching the specials O Gelie, as Matt said,
Speaker 3: but I also like rewatched them this weekend and I was.
Speaker 1: Just like, God, she's really fucking good.
Speaker 3: She's so good, And like I think you are in
Speaker 3: this space you are like a comedians comedian and then
Speaker 3: you also play to like everybody, and that's like such
Speaker 3: a unicorn in these days.
Speaker 5: I think that's really nice. I mean, you never really
Speaker 5: know if you're a comedians comedian because you're like, doesn't
Speaker 5: everyone hate everything?
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: You just kind of have to go like, I bet
Speaker 5: everyone hates me, and it's fine, Like you don't really
Speaker 5: ever know.
Speaker 2: You never know, well, you know what's funny.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I went from like like we
Speaker 1: talk about the laughing and then the acknowledging and then
Speaker 1: back to the laughing. I think that means I like
Speaker 1: sort of tried to divest from like my peers opinion
Speaker 1: of me because I know that if it were to
Speaker 1: be negative, that would really hurt me. And I think
Speaker 1: that that's something like maybe that's another element of like
Speaker 1: growing up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Is it's just like I'm not gonna put.
Speaker 1: Myself in a position to be hurt like that, and
Speaker 1: if like someone like you guys like didn't think I
Speaker 1: was worth myself, that would really hurt Meanwhile, like I
Speaker 1: can go out there and like the audience might not
Speaker 1: get something, and I'm like, I'm gonna roll with you now,
Speaker 1: But if it were other comedians, I think that would
Speaker 1: hurt Yeah, because we know we've been in those environments
Speaker 1: where it's like we were all like fucking going for
Speaker 1: something like JFL. We were all like pour together, we
Speaker 1: were all getting paid in two drinks or two diet
Speaker 1: cokes because you didn't drink till last week, I think.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just like so now, it's just
Speaker 1: like I do what I do because it makes me
Speaker 1: happy and it makes people happy, and it would drive
Speaker 1: me fucking nuts if it didn't make people.
Speaker 5: I respect it, Yes, which about you have to pick
Speaker 5: like three people you respect and talk to it all
Speaker 5: and talk to it all, and those are the people
Speaker 5: you care about and everyone else you're like, yeah, but
Speaker 5: I also like when people don't like me, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I get it, Like I could argue.
Speaker 2: That side totally.
Speaker 1: All their complaints are actually my complaints to annoying talk
Speaker 1: too much, not that smart. Yeah has an underbyte, right,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: That's me I'm putting there, it's I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is really this segment where we hang our
Speaker 1: hat here at the podcasting. This is it. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is what's made us really timeless, like Shakespeare and
Speaker 1: h B and Besz. This is one minute to rants
Speaker 1: against something in culture that's getting to us. And I
Speaker 1: have something as of last night. Matt Rogers is here.
Speaker 1: I don't think any times starts down. I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey the olive garden.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: There is such a thing as being too good to
Speaker 1: be true. And there are three things soup, salad, and
Speaker 1: bread sticks. Okay, let me disclaimer this. This is not
Speaker 1: an I don't think so honey to you as an institution.
Speaker 1: It's an I don't think money really to me and
Speaker 1: my self control unlimited truly does mean unlimited. And when
Speaker 1: you have one bite of that bread, that salty fucking bread,
Speaker 1: and you dip it in that Zoopa tuscano, which is
Speaker 1: my soup of choice, not to disrespect any of the
Speaker 1: other soups, I would definitely try it in some minute drunk,
Speaker 1: but I cannot stop myself. This salad one of the
Speaker 1: world's greatest salad. And then I have to say something.
Speaker 1: You're already jacked up full of soup ss B. And
Speaker 1: then you got your tour of Italy. Okay, because you're like,
Speaker 1: why not, I'm not gonna be full seconds into the meal.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good to date, and it's because not
Speaker 1: because of Olive Garden, because of me, because of my choices.
Speaker 1: It does it feel like a little bit of a
Speaker 1: betrayal that they would do this to me after I
Speaker 1: had my nineteenth and twentieth birthdays, both two years in
Speaker 1: a row, at the Time Square Olive Garden where I
Speaker 1: went last night. Yes, it does well. I keep coming back. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do think so hard. And that's one minute. I'm
Speaker 1: so chalk full of food right now at this moment,
Speaker 1: like I'm bursting. I'm gonna start sweating the bread that
Speaker 1: moved you to go. I was on a date last
Speaker 1: night and you won't go went to a time So
Speaker 1: we had done this fun, stupid thing where we're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Dave and Busters and then go
Speaker 1: to the Times Square Garden. Like I said, I'm out
Speaker 1: there dating, We're having fun, and I felt like this
Speaker 1: would be a way to not have it center around
Speaker 1: like alcohol.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is I think it around bread? Something else
Speaker 2: that's slowing me down today, carbs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I hangover.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, they don't tell you about that. No, I don't
Speaker 1: look up to and I was like, whoa, I guess I.
Speaker 2: Drank too much.
Speaker 1: I had one beer and five thousand bread stick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they should cut That's what happened. There should be there
Speaker 1: should be a breadstick bartender there. Really, there should be
Speaker 1: someone be like, hey, man, are you okay? Because you
Speaker 1: do get kind of drunk. I mean like you're like
Speaker 1: on that bread. Yeah, bread, let's get it. I don't
Speaker 1: you know what's funny? Like I had so much bread
Speaker 1: and like a whole bulls a whole bull of hellad.
Speaker 1: And usually it's like, what's so great about soup salad? Breadsticks?
Speaker 2: Un limited?
Speaker 1: Is the soup? Because I'm a souper queen, Like I
Speaker 1: love soup, but it gets so amazing. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of the great inventions. Well, Bowen likes more stew
Speaker 1: I I love.
Speaker 4: He can tell you about it, Okay, he loves STUWT. Yeah,
Speaker 4: stu is just soup with something to say.
Speaker 1: You know, that's real culture. Woman numbers are again twenty
Speaker 1: five something to say amazing.
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, so your merch should say soup queen on it.
Speaker 4: I mean and it already and it already changes. I'm
Speaker 4: changing it.
Speaker 1: We had what was it? We've came up with a
Speaker 1: good merch that they don't talk to me on vulnerable
Speaker 1: or something. Oh, I remember that. That's great. We're coming
Speaker 1: up with good merch all the time. And we never
Speaker 1: heard I.
Speaker 4: Would wear don't talk to me vulnerable?
Speaker 1: So fast? You fast?
Speaker 2: You'd wear it? Well.
Speaker 5: My younger sibling made me a sweatshirt once that maybe
Speaker 5: it was something they said, maybe something I said that
Speaker 5: said like I'm great but unavailable. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: It text for later but also says what's yes, stay away? Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh I love it? Bonyang, you're ready for I don't
Speaker 1: think honey ready? Okay, this is bowen yang and he
Speaker 1: is going to do I don't think so honey, starting.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think so honey. In New York Times
Speaker 3: is thirty six questions to fall in love. Guess what
Speaker 3: they don't work? Okay, I've fallen out of love with
Speaker 3: individuals because they went through the whole fucking charae of
Speaker 3: like looking into my eyes reading off these questions. One
Speaker 3: of them is if you had the choice to be
Speaker 3: ninety years old and have either the mind or body
Speaker 3: of a thirty year old? Which one would it be?
Speaker 3: I don't care how you answer that. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: like the answer. No, that's a weird fucking question.
Speaker 1: New York Times.
Speaker 3: Hey, how about ray lady, how about you try to
Speaker 3: put strands on the games app? How about you get
Speaker 3: the editor of Connections to make some fucking sense for once?
Speaker 3: How about you make spelling me not have a Q
Speaker 3: in it on a Monday. It's really up, New York Times.
Speaker 3: I could begin to list off the gripes I have,
Speaker 3: but let's start with the thirty six questions to fall
Speaker 3: in love, because you are ruining a lot of potentially
Speaker 3: mid dates and making them intolerable.
Speaker 1: And that is one minute you get.
Speaker 5: I will say that question that you talked about, that's
Speaker 5: the easiest question to answer.
Speaker 4: Body body, Yeah, who.
Speaker 1: He doesn't I get that you said that. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's not that I don't know. It's not either way.
Speaker 4: You hate that I bought into it at all.
Speaker 2: I've fallen out of love with your tail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but can I tell you something. It's about starting conversations.
Speaker 1: It's not about being definitive. It's about starting conversations. Like
Speaker 1: you ever played this or that. Yeah, it's a conversation starter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really that's just this or that. It's just in
Speaker 1: the paper of note right.
Speaker 3: Well, one of them is like sum up your whole
Speaker 3: life story in four minutes. You're like, this is so
Speaker 3: sweaty h so like okay, Like it is someone being like,
Speaker 3: let me be fucking charming towards you, and you're like stop, okay, but.
Speaker 5: Can I just say those questions are not for people
Speaker 5: with podcasts, you know what I mean? Like, those are
Speaker 5: for regular people, and the fact that you're even trying
Speaker 5: to pass judgment on it is not okay. Those questions
Speaker 5: are for people who are not interesting on their own
Speaker 5: and they need a template date God right, I'm just look,
Speaker 5: you probably have questions that you want to ask everybody
Speaker 5: because you're an interesting, talented person, eldest daughter.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You're made of this stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but people have you like That's why I can't
Speaker 5: watch dating reality shows. I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 5: watch regular people struggle to know each other with another.
Speaker 5: The barrier like a literal barrier. I watch Love is
Speaker 5: Blind a literal barrier, making it even harder for you
Speaker 5: to connect.
Speaker 4: It is painful to watch.
Speaker 1: The Bachelor is the toughest for me because it's like
Speaker 1: people who socialize at a certain level, Like it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like and I want to think it's funny,
Speaker 1: but I really ultimately just think it's boring.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just I can't pretend to be Like
Speaker 5: when two people are like you want kids, I want
Speaker 5: kideah exactly, both want to that's crazy, yeah, and then
Speaker 5: everyone's fighting over the same guy because they want to kids.
Speaker 1: Like it just well, it all boils down to I
Speaker 1: saw this person and was the horniest for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are the one who wins, because guess what, nothing
Speaker 1: really changes in two months. You're still in a manic period, right.
Speaker 1: It really is just like many of the show. It's
Speaker 1: like we're gonna put people in an insane situation with
Speaker 1: a camera in their face and ask them to perform constantly,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, of course nothing works, get.
Speaker 4: Them drunk, take their phone. It's it's literally a it's
Speaker 4: literally a manic episode, and no one knows that because
Speaker 4: we're watching it like weeks apart.
Speaker 1: But like these people are cooped up for like two
Speaker 1: and a half months, only talking to each other and
Speaker 1: then guess what. The friends they make one day are
Speaker 1: just gone. Yes, Like Eric goes to talk to Rachel,
Speaker 1: he doesn't come back and we've been hanging out for
Speaker 1: two and a half months.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're lying to your family? Where are you? Like?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: When they come out and they're.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm engaged and they're like you said you were
Speaker 5: doing like a sleep study.
Speaker 4: What do they tell their loved one?
Speaker 1: What if something happens, like, hey, hey is this missus Eric?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Eric fell off a boat in Copenhagen.
Speaker 2: Can you come?
Speaker 1: I d the body? Oh dead by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't really survive that kind of thing, no matter
Speaker 1: where it is.
Speaker 2: We does ted know about this that you're not a
Speaker 2: love is blind man?
Speaker 4: We're no, no, no, I am.
Speaker 5: I am the only one I've watched. That's the only
Speaker 5: one I've watched. That is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, don't.
Speaker 3: I had I had a lot with his mind. As
Speaker 3: I've talked about it in this podcast. I'm like, I can't,
Speaker 3: I can't stick with it.
Speaker 5: I can't watch any dating show. I cannot watch. That's
Speaker 5: the Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Watch like the Social Dilemma. Reality shows like the Circle
Speaker 1: and stuff, or.
Speaker 4: No, I don't watch this.
Speaker 5: I did watch the Ultimatum, which was insane.
Speaker 1: The Ultimatum was crazy all the way through. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I've seen the one season of the Ultimatum, and
Speaker 5: I've seen I think two seasons of Love.
Speaker 2: Gave it.
Speaker 1: I gave it a fair shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did it.
Speaker 1: I did it. I mean seeing two seasons of anything,
Speaker 1: I can say I watched something.
Speaker 2: If I watch four episodes.
Speaker 1: Of it, Oh yeah, then I then I consider myself
Speaker 1: a fan and an authority. Yeah, and I come on
Speaker 1: here and I say, here's the definitive word on this thing.
Speaker 1: I've seen an eighth of people, and people listen.
Speaker 5: And then if something is popular enough, do you watch
Speaker 5: four episodes of it just to be a part of
Speaker 5: the conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four seems reasonable unless watching it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: miserable experience for me. Unless the genre I don't do
Speaker 1: scary and I don't do like graphic. Right, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: good with anything.
Speaker 5: When people come on SNL and HOST, I feel like
Speaker 5: you have to watch their.
Speaker 3: Stuff, not as much anymore, because now I'm gonna peel
Speaker 3: back the curtain. Lauren doesn't like when they promote the
Speaker 3: thing too much. Oh interesting, So it's like, oh, there's
Speaker 3: there might not be a sketch about their project, right,
Speaker 3: which unless it's cultural, unless it's like Eyston, like I'm
Speaker 3: sure Gosling can do it.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of You think you're gonna shoot your
Speaker 1: shot on a Challenger sketch this week?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, something with the score, something with the score that, sir.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you're gonna make that funny, because
Speaker 4: the score was perfect.
Speaker 1: It's perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I am I thinking I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of a sketch.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't say what it is because Bowen says
Speaker 1: if I ever picture my sketch, they can't use it,
Speaker 1: and I actually will likely I could sue. I could sue.
Speaker 1: I'm veryious. Speaking of being on the edge, it's your
Speaker 1: turn to do. I'm so scared. Okay, don't don't be
Speaker 1: all right, this is Taylor Tomlinson' I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 5: People who skip the museum gift shop, Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: You go to one one museum and on the way
Speaker 5: out you're like, oh what I forgot?
Speaker 4: That was here, I start with the museum.
Speaker 5: How else are you supposed to know what to pay
Speaker 5: attention to once you're in the museum. Okay, I don't
Speaker 5: want to look like a fucking idiot standing in front
Speaker 5: of an unimportant piece of art too long. I'm getting
Speaker 5: teary eyed in front of a painting of a field going,
Speaker 5: oh my god, what's this one called landscape?
Speaker 1: By?
Speaker 5: Who the fuck know? What made the magnets? What made
Speaker 5: the postcards? What can I take home with me? You
Speaker 5: think it's in you to buy something from a museum
Speaker 5: gift shop. You think you're better than a starry Night umbrella?
Speaker 4: You're fucking not.
Speaker 5: I want to remember the time I saw the Scream
Speaker 5: in person and was like, Wow, I'm doing something.
Speaker 4: Yeh, fucking culture. Yes, I want to bring it home
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 5: I want to put it on my refrigerator, bare minimum,
Speaker 5: use it as a bookmark in a book I started
Speaker 5: and didn't finish. I don't think so, honey, you were
Speaker 5: not better than the museum gift shop.
Speaker 1: And that is one minute. Also, if you don't go
Speaker 1: to the museum gift shop and get something, how are
Speaker 1: you gonna have too many shirts? Yes? How are you
Speaker 1: gonna have too many shirts if you didn't buy one
Speaker 1: at the museum. And it's important to have too many. Yes.
Speaker 5: The only other way you could have too many shirts
Speaker 5: is if you start doing stand up and you get
Speaker 5: one from.
Speaker 4: Every club you've ever performed.
Speaker 1: And that's the only other way, and that takes years.
Speaker 1: But if you're not a stand up and then what
Speaker 1: are you gonna put on your coffee tables?
Speaker 2: Go to the museum gift shop to buy the book?
Speaker 4: Grow the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Where was it that we went in Berlin? We we
Speaker 1: went to that museum in Berlin. Remember we didn't go
Speaker 1: to a museum. Oh, we went to a Berlin museum.
Speaker 1: I forgot what it's called. But and answer them. We
Speaker 1: went to the rex mus which, oh yeah, I love,
Speaker 1: and there is that I bought my yellow shirt that
Speaker 1: I've never worn, you've ever worn. I wouldn't have it
Speaker 1: taking up.
Speaker 4: Space if I hadn't gone to the gift shop. And
Speaker 4: that's important. Yes, I need to see what is the
Speaker 4: jigsaw huzzle? Yeah, and then I'm gonna be like I
Speaker 4: know to go to that. Yes, stairs, you'll miss the
Speaker 4: room if it's too big.
Speaker 5: The best museum I've ever been to is an Oslo
Speaker 5: in Norway and it's I can't pronounce it, but it's
Speaker 5: so good and there's so many different types of things
Speaker 5: in there, and you could absolutely miss something if you're
Speaker 5: not careful. I went two days in a row because
Speaker 5: I miss stuff.
Speaker 3: It's so smart to start with the shop because then
Speaker 3: you've kind of outsmarted the layout in the floor plant,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like the traffic pattern. You're like,
Speaker 3: let me start where they don't want me to go first.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was talking to my sibling about this last night
Speaker 5: and they go, it's like reading the study questions before
Speaker 5: you read the chapter.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you know what it is. You know what
Speaker 1: always gets me? This is sort of my museum is
Speaker 1: a theme park. Yes, I get a mug, a coffee
Speaker 1: mug from every riode.
Speaker 4: I like, yeah, if I had a good time.
Speaker 1: If I had an amazing time, which I often do,
Speaker 1: especially with so we went. We do it on the
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park right a long time ago. So one of
Speaker 1: my favorite mugs I have and I wouldn't have it
Speaker 1: if I had it bought it.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly.
Speaker 1: It's actually a really coaching number eight. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: it if I hadn't bought it. This is an important
Speaker 1: part culture. It's a capitalism consumer you know, like, this
Speaker 1: is what this is all about.
Speaker 5: I love that you two love theme parks because that's
Speaker 5: another thing that people act like they're too good for.
Speaker 4: No, give me a theme parks are so fun. They
Speaker 4: were built for your imagination, dear steps.
Speaker 1: In every day I watch YouTube videos about the construction
Speaker 1: of Epic Universe, which is the new theme park that
Speaker 1: is going to double the size of the Universal Orlando
Speaker 1: Resort and truly start the theme park war in Orlando
Speaker 1: or will it finish it.
Speaker 4: It's a totally separate theme park.
Speaker 1: It is a totally separate theme park. I'm going to
Speaker 1: send you some links. Please do it too, because let
Speaker 1: me something They are not playing not playing?
Speaker 2: Do you like the movie had Finger Dragon.
Speaker 4: Stop talk about a score?
Speaker 1: Yes, you spoke of Harry Potter earlier.
Speaker 2: You're in luck.
Speaker 4: They're they're doing a Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: Yes they are, and it might be called Battle at
Speaker 1: the Ministry of Magic, and the villain might be Dolores
Speaker 1: Umbradge herself reprised by Emelda Staunton. Okay, there is new
Speaker 1: technology they have not yet revealed that will make the
Speaker 1: attraction unforgettable. Then there's a dark universe which is gonna
Speaker 1: have all the universal classic monsters, Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: finally Super Nintendo World. We're gonna ride Mario Kart.
Speaker 4: You're end World at Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Have you been yet?
Speaker 4: I'm not a Nintendo World.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the whole team, take the do it.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the whole team.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: I would love to see Joe. Joe has been.
Speaker 3: Joe has taken her niece, nephew, one of her relatives
Speaker 3: to that park and has a lot of things. Does
Speaker 3: Joe like the part re roller coaster?
Speaker 1: This is a metaphor for friendship, so it doesn't it's healing.
Speaker 1: But that's two people on the ride together and they're
Speaker 1: going over the till and zero gravity.
Speaker 2: That makes me happy.
Speaker 1: It's got the circle. You can tell that's fresh. It's
Speaker 1: fresh fresh. Yeah, she's got her second skin on. But
Speaker 1: what's this joke that you have. It's like recycling a
Speaker 1: theme park. You're part of the problem. You're part of
Speaker 1: the problem. Throw your hands up, three hands up, being.
Speaker 5: Like offended at a comedy show.
Speaker 2: Trying to recycle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're here, You're you're part of the problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just throw your hands up, so.
Speaker 2: Good, throw your hands up.
Speaker 1: Title of app.
Speaker 2: Title of app.
Speaker 1: Three hands up and we throw our hands up for
Speaker 1: Taylor Tom we throw our hands up and clap them
Speaker 1: in the air. Wow, this was so fun. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for having you. Came honored so much. Like
Speaker 1: I said, one of the first things I saw you
Speaker 1: when we met for the show was like, it's not
Speaker 1: a surprise to me at all to see you continue
Speaker 1: to be so great and do so well. So star
Speaker 1: Star Star watch after Midnight and we end every episode
Speaker 1: with the song to Midnight.
Speaker 2: Sorry do you know has a song?
Speaker 5: I think we used her song and our trailers for
Speaker 5: the show. I think it was just so perfect, Yeah,
Speaker 5: so good, so amazed.
Speaker 2: You should play it right before the show. But I
Speaker 2: know you.
Speaker 5: I asked our amazing Percy incredible on. I was gonna say,
Speaker 5: he's PERSI amazing great come to the show for Percy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't me, doesn't he dances?
Speaker 4: He did like knows the Beyonce single Ladies Dance.
Speaker 1: Like he does it all and then he's like, Matt,
Speaker 1: come on and do it. And I would never do that.
Speaker 1: He did got me to do it and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it, but he got me to commit,
Speaker 1: which is the power of person, which is the.
Speaker 4: Power of Percy.
Speaker 5: I asked him to put hot to go on the list.
Speaker 5: Happy and when people know the.
Speaker 4: Dance, it's really fun. But you do have to wait
Speaker 4: a while for the dance to kick it.
Speaker 5: So I think I need to tell him the time
Speaker 5: stamp on it because sometimes people get because he has
Speaker 5: audience members come up and dance on commercial.
Speaker 1: Brands, and some of them know how to go the dance. Yes,
Speaker 1: Chapel is taking off. Man, Oh my god, she's so
Speaker 1: good travel Come on the show girl, She'd love the show.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like she well, she knows of
Speaker 1: the show because she won Album of the Year last
Speaker 1: year before her album even came out, and at the
Speaker 1: Cultural Awards. Amazing, she said in a video, thanking us
Speaker 1: and watch the Space Chapel. You maybe racking up some
Speaker 1: numbs of this year's Cultural Awards.
Speaker 5: Bye bye,