1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Motor and violence, two things Jonathan gannon wants to see 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: from his defense Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Calvic joins me, not only was it the final open practice, 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: but it was the final padded practice of Cards Camp 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium on Wednesday, and we saw that 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: motor and violence and maybe a little too much of 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: the latter. Seems like a very good time for that 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: first preseason game. Plus we look ahead to the preseason opener. 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: What do we hope to see come Saturday night? It's 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven to eighty and it starts now. 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: He's at a ten half of five again some more 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: hurry magic. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig trailer. 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: So we all know the line. The first rule of 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: fight club is you don't talk about fight club. Well, 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: there's another rule when you talk about Cards Camp and 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gannett, no fighting period, and while there 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a dust up on Wednesday, 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: the final open practice, the final padded practice here at 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: Stave Farm Stadium. And yeah, you're not supposed to talk 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: about it, Paul, but yeah, those I'm disregarding that rule 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: because we are going to discuss what we saw and 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe even heard a little bit during Wednesday's practice. 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Second straight year there has been the walk of shame 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: by two players, an offensive and defensive lineman. Second straight 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: year it's happened. You know, there was the root and 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: in a two not really the womping and a stomping, 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: a bit of a scuffle rhymes with kerf fluffle, all 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: the above, Okay, And you know these guys at this point, 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: I think the preseason game couldn't come soon enough. You 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: need to hit someone in a different uniform. You need 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: to hit someone you haven't hit before that maybe you 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: don't have bad blog from a previous practice or a 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: previous rep. So everything going through and I think the 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: urgency it's this point in camp when the depth chart 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: comes out and all of a sudden, the fangs come 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: out and guys are like, all right, I got to 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: make a statement. I got to make a move I 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: don't like where I am on the depth chart. I 45 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: don't like where I am and trying to secure a 46 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: job and earn a living, and so yes you will 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: see tempers flair, but that as an absolute non starter, 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: zero tolerance from the head coach, Jonathan Gannon. 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Saturday's preseason game is scheduled where it needs to be scheduled, 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: because you're right. This was day eleven, and there is 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: one more practice on Thursday, close to the public, and 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: this team is ready for a different colored uniform. Remember 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it was day two of practice. Will Hernandez mac Wilson 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: a little pushing and shoving. Will might have been a 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: little bit too aggressive, pushing someone out of bounds Mack himself, 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: and things got a little heated. That pales in comparison 57 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to what we saw earlier on Wednesday one on one drills, 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: which is always exciting when the pads are on offensive 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: line defensive line, and here was the case. It was 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: offensive lineman Keischith Keith Ishmael and rookie defensive lineman Miles 61 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Murphy one on one and I don't know if words 62 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: were exchanged between the two, but something set someone off 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: and there were punches thrown and that things got escalated, 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: and as you talk about the walk of shame, yes, 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: both were well told to leave the field. In some 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: rather choice words from head coach Jonathan Gannon, we were. 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: Standing right there. We had a front row seat from 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: the sideline, unimpeded view. From what I saw after the 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: punches were thrown Miles Murphy. You didn't like the way, 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: maybe Keith, this mail was hanging out a little too long. 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, yelled to Roholt said get 72 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: off him, and he shoved the defensive line of Miles Murphy. 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: And then Darius Robinson came to the defense of his 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: d line teammate and he shoved, yelled a fro hold, 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, then guys really started hugging, 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: and it became one of those baseball you know, dust 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: ups and a bunch of guys hugging each other. And 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: the best was there was one guy without his lid, 79 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: and that was Will Hernandez. Didn't didn't stop him from 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 3: from going in full force and trying to make sure 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: he was protecting his guys. And then Dennis Gardak went 82 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: and put his helmet back on for him, and so yes, 83 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: there was but then soon after that, Jonathan Gannon. You 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: could hear his voice echo through the entire nearly empty 85 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: State Farm Stadium, and there was no doubt who was 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: in charge and that there will be blood. You two 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: guys are kicked out of practice, and once again, to 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: come full circle here there was the walk of shame 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: to the locker room. 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: JG has made it very clear, no fighting. And as 91 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians once said, cardinals don't fight cardinals. And why 92 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a big deal, but based off 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: what happened earlier on Wednesday, the Lions and Giants or 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: each fed. Here's two hundred thousand dollars for their fights 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: during joint practices this week, and the Cardinals are going 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis next week for a pair of joint practices. 97 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: And we know JG does not tolerate fighting at all. 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe earlier in the week, okay, maybe things 99 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: get little heated mates pushing and shoving. No, there will 100 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: be a strong message sent today tomorrow, next week before 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: that first practice, and he is talking about JG. We'll 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: use what happened earlier on Wednesday, and I do think 103 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of a message was sent this afternoon, 104 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: because say that was maybe a Justin Jones who wasn't 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: out on the practice field, or Will Hernandez or a 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: yelled de roll Do you kick those players out of practice? 107 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: Or because where you are on the depth chart and 108 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: we're about to head to a joint practice, I'm going 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: to send a message and I'm going to send a 110 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: clear message to if it happens again, I don't care 111 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: who you are, you do not belong on this football 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: field on this day. 113 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Is it easier to kick an undrafted rookie out of 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: practice and then an offensive lineman who's probably destined for 115 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: the practice squad? Yes, but a year ago he banished 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: what LJ. Collier and Elijah Wilkinson, two veterans in this league, 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: two guys who had started in this league. So he look, 118 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: there's one thing that he was charged with coming in accountability, 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: and that's part of the formula. Can you imagine in 120 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: that Giants Lions, I mean Daniel Jones was involved. Can 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: you imagine fifty million dollars a year franchise quarterback Daniel 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Jones losing his season due to an injury suffered in 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: some joint practice brawl. Molik Neighbors the six pick overall 124 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: throwing hands against the Lions dB. Can you imagine Marvin 125 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. I mean, just you know, shut or the 126 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: thought he gets hurt in some sort of brawl because 127 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: he's throwing a right cross. I mean, come on, now, 128 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: you can't have it. You just can't have it, not 129 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: with what's at stake in the season, not with what 130 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: you're paying these guys. So I understand it, and you 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: know what else, you certainly can't have it in a 132 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: game because if it costs you a game, cost you 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: fifteen yards in a critical situation. And just to translate 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of what Jonathan Gannon was yelling at 135 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: those two guys when he kicked him off the field 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: was exactly that be smart, be smarter football, IQ. We 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: can't have it because in a league where one play 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: can easily decide a game, a most offensive does one 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: to five plays in every single game, that could be 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: the difference. 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Yell Deferhold said as much in the locker room afterwards. 142 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: We have to be smarter and forget the fifteen yard penalty. 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: You could be ejected and now all of a sudden 144 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: you're a man down. Whether that's a ligneman or a 145 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: skilled position player, and that changes the complexion of what 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: you want to do as an offense, as a defense, 147 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: and then maybe changes the complexion the game. So yeah, 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: this is serious and we can make jokes about it 149 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: as far as in practice, but there's a reason you do. 150 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: You send the message now because you don't want it 151 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: to happen in September, October, November, etc. You know what 152 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: people don't realize about Jonathan Gannon And I was actually 153 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: shocked to a certain degree about this last year on 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: the sideline. He is remarkably calm. He was always cool 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: and collected on game day. I mean, you see the 156 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: energy during the week, right and you'd figure on game 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: day he would be through the roof. 158 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: But he's not. He's actually almost the opposite. He is 159 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: incredibly almost almost placidly calculated and really cunning, and he's 160 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: always has his eyes and his head on his swivel, 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: and he's communicating and he's finding different players to talk to. 162 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Of all the Cardinals coaches that you know for the 163 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: last twenty five years that I've been on the side, 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he is the most cool and calm head 165 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: coach that I have seen, sort of blies the energy right, 166 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: and I was surprised to learn that, but it goes 167 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: into what he wants on game day. He wants you 168 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: to be smart, he wants you to be intense, which 169 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: he is, but I mean, you got to be able 170 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: to execute. And when you start getting emotional and you're 171 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 3: trying to exact revenge on a guy or you know, 172 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: get a you have a vendetta going because this guy 173 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: did you wrong. Well guess what, as he says, that's 174 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: not winning behavior, and. 175 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: It affects your decision making as a coach and as 176 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: a player. It affects what you want to do on 177 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: the football field. So yeah, that was the big highlight 178 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. But let's stay with the one on ones 179 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: because and I'll get to it here, but some things 180 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: stood out a little bit. And the more and more 181 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I look at that offensive line and defensive line and 182 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: specifically the D line, I'm really impressed and I think 183 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: this could be a big season. Maybe not statistically because 184 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the D line hard to get statistics, but Roy Lopez 185 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: is showing up each and every day. He was talked about, 186 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: highly praised by Nick Rolis earlier on Wednesday, was challenged 187 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: according to roullis for Roy to be a leader on 188 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: that defense, and we know just how difficult he is 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: to move as a player in the middle. But if 190 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: he's your starting nose tackle next to a Justin Jones 191 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: and a Blall Nichols, with Darius Robinson and LJ. Collier 192 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: and everyone else, you want to stop the run. I 193 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: think Roy Lopez is going to play a big part 194 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: on this defense as far as being able to contain 195 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: opposing team's rushing attacks. 196 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: I think you're rolling six deep in the D line room, 197 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: which is a complete opposite from the end of last 198 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: year where the D and D line stood for decimated 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: or yeah, I mean it's just day and night is 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: what it stands for now. And Roy Lopez, we both 201 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: talked to him in the Cardinals locker room. You got 202 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: to remember he popped his hamstring in camp a year ago, 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: ended up getting released by Houston. Just wasn't the same 204 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: sort of player. I think they really regret that at 205 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: this point came to the Cardinals. I'm not sure he 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: was at his best all last season. Let me tell you, 207 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: we called his name a lot on the radio broadcast. 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: He made a lot of plays, But to see him 209 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: now full health, full off season, not having to worry 210 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: about that nagging injury throughout all of last year. And 211 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: for him to get up there with his wrestling background 212 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: and his confidence and taking on the double team and 213 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: splitting those guys and being low man wins and getting 214 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: off the ball, and just the way he's able to 215 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: be so disruptive in the middle. I think that's really 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: going to trickle down along that defensive front. Justin Jones, 217 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: Ball Nichols, Darius Robinson, I pause, because what he is 218 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: putting on display, you really want to believe is going 219 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: to have stain power for the next decade. Players, no players, 220 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of veterans in that room who 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: are very wide eyed when they watch number fifty six 222 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson, like, oh boy, what do we have here. 223 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: I can just tell you that guys I've talked to 224 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: are really impressed and really curious as to what's coming 225 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: with Darius Robinson. So now combined with Dante still's taking 226 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: a big step from last year this year, all the 227 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: rookie reps he got once again LJ. Collier really hard 228 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: to stop in those one on ones. He's coming a 229 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: man on a mission after he lost all of last 230 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: season to hear him tell it, and so I mean, Greig, 231 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: I'm like, Paully, pump your brakes, because I'm like, Okay, 232 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: if this d line is as improved as it looks, 233 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: and they haven't even played a game in pads yet, 234 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: I get it. But it does make you wonder, all right, 235 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: what does that do for a defense that at least 236 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: it's just middle of the pack. If Kyler Marae and 237 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: that offense can be what everybody thinks and you have 238 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: a defense that is at least decent and competitive and 239 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: not banged up like it was a year ago, all 240 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: of a sudden, Okay, I think you really can compete just. 241 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: Be average, yep, And that's not the goal, but it's 242 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot better than it was a 243 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: year ago as far as stopping the run and making 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: sure teams aren't running through you, over you, around you, 245 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: especially within the division. And yeah, things look great on 246 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: paper and you mentioned players, no players. Mac Wilson Senior 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: in the locker room on Wednesday asked about Darius Well, yeah, 248 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: we saw him, and then we were gonna wait till 249 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: the pads come on, and then that puts the pads 250 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: on and oh, he took it to another level. And 251 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: that's a veteran. That's not a coach, that's a veteran, 252 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: and it's it's hard not to get excited, maybe too 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: excited about what you see in Darius Robinson just because 254 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing it here in practice. Now, how does that 255 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: translate in a preseason game versus what we're seeing here 256 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium? 257 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,479 Speaker 3: After the Red and White, I asked a few Cardinals 258 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: offensive linemen, all right, and am I seeing what I 259 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: think I'm seeing in fifty six? They said, oh, yeah, 260 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: you're seeing what makes him so difficult. And they said 261 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: that he gets to a second and third move like 262 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: an experienced edge rusher. He really gets to that second 263 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: third counter move really quickly. So, in addition to being 264 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: incredibly strong six five two ninety plus now and being 265 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: really athletic getting down to that four point stance, he 266 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: looks like Darnell Dockett. That was the comp from a 267 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: couple of guys in the locker room. He looks like 268 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: Darnell Dockett. And he comes off and he can either 269 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: go through you or he can go around you in 270 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: an instant. And so now minus Bgjelai. You have to 271 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: wonder what is in store for Darius Robinson to what 272 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: degree can they use him in the five even beyond 273 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: on the edge in certain passing situations. Speaking to Mac 274 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: Wilson Senior, you know he has this quiet confidence in 275 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: his past rushing ability. We confirmed as much just moments 276 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: ago at his locker. All right, are you gonna, you know, 277 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: as Nick Ross, gonna call your number, third and seven, 278 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: Here comes Mac Wilson off one edge, Darius Robinson, Zavin Collins, 279 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: Dennis Gardeck. You know, bjo Jelari is truly a blow. 280 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: Nobody won the off season like o Jelai. But but 281 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: if the D line is what you think it could be, 282 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: then I do believe you can get enough edge rush 283 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: to at least be competitive and impact the quarterback. 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: Mac Wilson Senior a year ago three and a half sacks. 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: They came towards the back end of the season. It 286 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: was weeks fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen as a sack in 287 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: each of those three games, and a half sack week 288 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: eighteen against the Jets, and we're seeing him out here 289 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: on pass rush drills. He was out there for O line, 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: D line and rushing off the edge. We even saw 291 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit on third team defense off the 292 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: edge and then working first team next to Kaisier White 293 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: as an inside linebacker. What was it the man of mystery, 294 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I believe you called Mac Wilson senior and the fact 295 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: that our colleague ky Vnabosch believes, oh, no, Mac can 296 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. And there was a little bit of 297 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: a twinkle in his eye a little bit when he 298 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: was asked about rushing the quarterback. And he'll do it 299 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: if asked, And it does seem like it's a part 300 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: of his game that he is working on, because he 301 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: even admitted I don't have a lot of experience, but 302 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: there's an excite level and now there's a need for 303 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: him to perhaps do it maybe a little bit more. 304 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: It's kind of like a Hassan Reddick effect a little bit. 305 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: You take a guy who is an off the ball 306 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: linebacker and then you put him to the edge, and 307 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: whereas a Son Reddick, you know, he was an All 308 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: American attemptle coming off the edge. I get all that, 309 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: but it's sort of the same body type. Speed factor 310 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: presents sort of a similar challenge for a three hundred 311 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: plus pound tackle and all of a sudden sort of 312 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: like Dennis Gardeck at his best has been that sort 313 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: of tough guy to stop. So if nothing else, you 314 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: can present a lot of different sort of looks for 315 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: the opposing tackles. Saving Collins at six five two seventy 316 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson. Now you got a guard deck, you got 317 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: a mac Wilson senior, So at least maybe you can 318 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: change things up and do you hear someone like Kyle 319 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: Anibasch tell it? You know, sometimes that can be your 320 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: biggest advantage against a tackle is they get used to 321 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: one guy and then all of a sudden you change 322 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: it up on him and all of you know, all 323 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: of a sudden, there they can't stay locked in like 324 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: they thought they would. Or in some cases, you could 325 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: only study so much film. So whereas the starting tackle 326 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: will start, will study the starting edge rusher. If you're 327 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: sending five six different guys at different times in a game, 328 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: there's just only so much preparation that tackle can do 329 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: to study your moves. 330 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: A couple of other names as far as the rush 331 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: is concerned about the fifth round draft pick Xavier Thomas, 332 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: who I believe you asked coach Rollis on Wednesday, and 333 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: the response was, Yeah, he's beginning to let it rip, 334 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: which is an indication to me that the thinking process 335 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: is slowing down for him and it's now reacting to 336 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: what the play call is and we are seeing him 337 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: get some reps with the first team defense. 338 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: You know that's a good translation because I had talked 339 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: to someone last week and they said the Cardinal scheme 340 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: is vastly different from the Clemson scheme and he was 341 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 3: thinking a lot. So then if he gets to that 342 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: point where he's playing and he's not thinking one two three, 343 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 3: one two three all the time, dance steps right. Okay, 344 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: I got this. I know my assignment cold. I know, no, 345 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: not just I think. I know. As JG likes to say, 346 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, the athleticism can come through. 347 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I shoot, what I've told is 348 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: really bad video, and I can show you on my 349 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: phone a bunch of wins by number fifty four and 350 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: those one on one O line D line drills. I mean, 351 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: he's made some of the tackles look stupid with his athleticism. 352 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: He'll come off in a fury and he'll do sort 353 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: of a cross crossover dribble move and guys are just 354 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: absolutely devastated with their footwork and he's buy him in 355 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: an instant. So that is another maybe he's my Now 356 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 3: that mac Wilson's role maybe is coming into focus. The 357 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: new man of mystery should be Xavier Thomas XT as 358 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 3: they call him. We'll see about that. But there are 359 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: a couple of guys that stay tuned, stay tuned. They 360 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: might have bigger roles, especially on third and obvious than 361 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: we think. 362 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: And the conversations that we've had at the start of 363 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: cards camp versus the conversations we're having now. And it's 364 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: not just because he's your guy. We focus so much 365 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: about the defense here on this edition of Cardinals, Cover 366 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: two presented a Hundai partner of the Arizona Cardinals, but 367 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: switch it up over to the offense. Big Mo Marquis 368 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: says stood his own, held his own against a Darius 369 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Robinson and Dante Stills on back to back O line 370 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: D line drills. And there's someone now, all of a sudden, 371 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: do we add him to the mix at one of 372 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: the interior positions, because, as Drew Petzing said on Wednesday, oh, 373 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: the competition at left guard quote very open is there 374 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: a door maybe cracked open for your boy Big Mo 375 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: to make a spot on this roster? Or is he 376 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: a numbers crunch and you slide them onto the practice squad? 377 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: You know? 378 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: Okay, now wait a minute, Okay, Now that's blasphemy that 379 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: last comment. I'm not even gonna dignify the last comment. 380 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: Right still wearing a Cardinals uniform because Big Mo is 381 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: out there balling right now. I'm going to start a 382 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: hashtag free Big Mo. There's no way he should be 383 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: third team at this point. Come on, now, I get it. 384 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm leading the fan club over there. You know, Wolf 385 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 3: has already founded the tip Ryeman fan club, and I'm 386 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: over here with a Big Mo. I get it. But man, 387 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: the last three one on one drills, O line, D 388 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: line and full pads, he's bawled out. And he's the 389 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: only guy that I've seen is truly neutralized. Darius Robinson. 390 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: He reminds me. Does his name Jeremy Bridges ring a 391 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: bell longtime former offensive Cardinals offensive lineman, and he had 392 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: a philosophy and I love Jeremy Bridges, and man, he 393 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: used to give me a hard time all all the time. 394 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tell this story because there were moments 395 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: in games where he was left one on one with 396 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: premier Pro Bowl pass rushers, and he said, there's at 397 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: some point in the game, you just got to fight 398 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: a guy. You just got to turn it into a 399 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: street brawl, is what you have to do. And a 400 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 3: lot of guys will just give up. They don't want 401 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: that for four quarters and Mark, he says this just 402 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: in Paul pencil Neck has never played O line, so 403 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna he doesn't look like he has the 404 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: most polished footwork necessarily, but he's nasty and he's huge, 405 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: and he will fight you, and he is. He has 406 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 3: really locked up a lot of Cardinals defensive linemen. So 407 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: to me, he's a stock on the rise. He is 408 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: someone I'm watching in this preseason game because I think 409 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: he's putting good film out there. But for the most part, 410 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 3: I'm seeing him run right guard. I haven't seen him 411 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: a whole bunch on the left. To me, he appears 412 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: to be tracking to be Will Hernandez's backup. We'll see 413 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: if he's given a shot at left guard. And once again. 414 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: Evan Brown started fifteen games for the Seahawks last year. 415 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: I get it. He has a ton more experience in 416 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Marquise Hayes. So there's the no one and the unknown. 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: There's what coaches can trust. And I'm not saying Evan 418 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Brown isn't capable. I'm just saying I've been impressed by 419 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: what Marquise Hayes has put out there, especially recently. 420 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Well we've seen it left guard Evan Brown, John Gains, 421 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams, Elijah Wilkinson. Now all of a sudden he's 422 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: seen time at guard and tackle. So the more you 423 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: can do in that word versatility, ken Marquise, can he 424 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: be that interior guy or he certainly has the sigh, 425 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Going back to your conversation about footwork, 426 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: he certainly has a size to play the tackle position, 427 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: but maybe based off that footwork right now in his career, 428 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: he's better to be slid inside and take up space. 429 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: Well, and you know what, Cardinals really ask a lot 430 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: of athleticism from their offensive lineman. How many times last 431 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: year was James Connor sprung free by a pulling guard 432 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 3: even a pulling tackle. You know, they really get the 433 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: lineman out on the move. So we'll see how Marcis 434 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: Hayes fares in that regard, but you know, you take 435 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: a look at the rest of the lineup, and I 436 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: just I think there are that is still an open 437 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: competition right now to see who exactly is going to 438 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: be that guy and a Paris Johnston Junior and Yielder Froholt. 439 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: You know, they've they're skilled enough that whoever it is 440 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: next to him, they'll make it work. So we'll see, 441 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: we'll see where that's tracking. To me, that is still 442 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: one of the bigger camp competitions left guard, and of. 443 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Course that competition ratches up this weekend. Saturday, the first 444 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: preseason game August tenth, against the New Orleans Saints. Five 445 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: PM is the kickoff one point thirty Pregame coverage begins 446 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network, Polly play by play 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: with Jay Feely. So I'm sure there'll be a lot 448 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: of the dynamic kickoff conversation, and there's also I'm expecting 449 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: to be some conversation about the backup quarterback because you 450 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: are not going to be able to call K one 451 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: at all Paul here in the preseason. Maybe you reference 452 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: him in a conversation, but Kyler Murray will not play, 453 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: so that leaves Clayton Tune and Desmond Ridder to be 454 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks. Who starts on Saturday? Do they flip flop? 455 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Who starts Saturday will start? Then the other guy starts 456 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: the following week against the Colts. But now, all of 457 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, you hope to never see that backup quarterback, 458 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: but you'd want to have someone that you trust. And 459 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: I think right now that that's still up in the air. 460 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: It was Desmond Ridder's job to lose, and I think 461 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: he's lost ground. He hasn't lost their job, but he's 462 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: definitely lost the advantage the lead he had on Clayton Tune. 463 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: Based on what we've seen in camp. That's just a 464 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: gut field. That's just an observation. He'll be giving. Both 465 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: guys will be giving every chance. And as MANI and 466 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: JG and he head coach and GM will tell you, you 467 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: want the players to make the decision for you. You want 468 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: one of these guys to emerge and clinch it. You 469 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 3: don't want to be like the Denver Broncos. And you 470 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: know you don't know exactly or the Raiders right now, 471 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: who exactly is is the guy? So in the absence 472 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 3: of any other real controversy. I guess we're just going 473 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 3: to start spanning the flames of a quarterback too controversy. 474 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: At this point, who exactly is going to be that guy? 475 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: And I tell you what, Clayton tune with the advantage 476 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: and knowing the offense, and Jonathan Gannon is saying he's 477 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: definitely playing quicker, He's thinking quicker, he's getting the ball 478 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: out if he can just do what we're asking Kyler 479 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: Murray to do this year, and that is to be 480 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: more of a brock party. Just operate from the pocket, 481 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: get the ball to all these weapons. That's all you 482 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 3: have to do. And then and those moments where they 483 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: games on the line and you got to hold a 484 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: defense accountable, that's where you go into best athlete on 485 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: the field mode. If you're Kyler Murray, like third down 486 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: and ten against Atlanta, less than two minutes to play, 487 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: and you drop twenty yards in the face of a 488 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: free rusher and then run thirty yards to beat the 489 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: defense to the sticks for a first down. That keeps 490 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: the game alive and then you end up winning the game. 491 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 3: But in this case, you just have to prove that 492 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: you can operate the offense and be capable in that regard, 493 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: and that's something Clayton tem did not do obviously in 494 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 3: the Cleveland game a year ago. So he's got to 495 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: a race that one and only impression he made a 496 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: year ago. 497 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be hard to do. As I look 498 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: at his numbers from week nine eleven of twenty fifty 499 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: eight yards, two interceptions, he was sacked seven times. But 500 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: that Cleveland defense was very, very good, and I believe 501 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Clayton was just thrown into a very difficult situation. Kyler 502 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: wasn't quite ready. He returned the following week, yet first impressions, 503 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: that's a hard first impression to erase from a lot 504 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: of fans' minds. But he can begin to do that 505 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: this weekend and show that, as Drew Petsing said earlier 506 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, he's more comfortable, more familiar with the offense. 507 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: And I like, to your point, just get rid of 508 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, let James Connor if he plays, or 509 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior if he plays. But Greg Dortch, Michael Wilson, 510 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Zay Jones, Chris Moore, get the ball to your playmakers. 511 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: Let them do the hard work. Not to say that 512 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: getting rid of the football and processing everything, but don't 513 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: feel like you have to do everything to move the football. 514 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: As QB one, Yeah, that Cleveland game. That was a 515 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: ferocious pass rush led by Miles Garrett. That was a 516 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland defense that spent a lot of last season ranked 517 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: number one overall. And the best thing he could have 518 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: done was exactly what you just said. Just get rid 519 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: of the ball quickly. But much easier said than done. 520 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: In the NFL, when you're a young quarterback, your first 521 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: regular season action, it's incredibly different than the preseason. So 522 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: now you find out, you find out can he make 523 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: those quick decisions. He has the arm, talent, he has 524 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: the size, he appears to have the leadership. He's definitely 525 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: schooled up. He knows the offense. Now can you read 526 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: and react? Can you process and get that ball out 527 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 3: to the right place? Make your reads and your progressions. 528 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: You begin to get a sense here in the preseason, 529 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: even though it'll be vanilla defenses, you can get a 530 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: sense as to how he's operating the offense. As for 531 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter, here's a guy who in his career, albeit short, 532 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: he's thrown as many interceptions as he has touchdowns, and 533 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: so that's going to be his challenge because he has 534 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: been an interception prone at times in Cardinals camp so far. 535 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: Just make the smart throw, make the safe throw, be 536 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 3: on time, because once you are late, even a step 537 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: late getting the ball to the spot, it's curtains. In 538 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: the NFL, dbis will jump the route. Every time. 539 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: Ritter has seventeen career starts, He's eight and nine, including 540 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: a win of the Cardinals in twenty twenty two. And 541 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: that's something that people are going to pay attention to 542 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: this weekend, this entire preseason. But as Petsing alluded to 543 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: when he was asked about how you make that decision 544 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to QB two, quote, don't base it 545 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: on production. So if Clayton Tune throws for one hundred 546 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: and twenty yards or whatever, the numbers don't matter. I 547 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: don't think it matters as much as what the coaches 548 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: want to see. Do you have command of the offense? 549 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Do you have command of the huddle? Are you moving 550 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the football up and down the field, Yes, But are 551 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: you getting to play in from the sideline and relaying 552 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: it to everyone else? There's no miscommunication, there's no need 553 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: to burn a time out because you hope if you 554 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: do need a backup quarterback, it's only for a quarter 555 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: maybe a game, or to anything more than that, well 556 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: then it's tough sledding moving forward, and you're just hoping 557 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: to have someone in there that can keep the seat warm, 558 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: if you will, until Kyler comes back, and definitely again 559 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: it never happens. 560 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: Are you seeing the field? Are you seeing your first, second, 561 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: and third options? And then when you do, are you 562 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 3: delivering the ball on time with accuracy? You know Ritorus 563 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: struggle with some of the accuracy as well at times. 564 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: Clayton Tune's a pretty accurate quarterback. It's just does is 565 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: he seeing the field? So all that and look, if 566 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: both guys struggle in the preseason, you do have to wonder. 567 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: You do have to wonder is another quarterback in play? Somehow, 568 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: some way? Is there a team who has three capable 569 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: quarterbacks and is only going to keep two? You know, 570 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: you do wonder if your player pro personnel department is 571 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: scanning other teams to see what's out there, because if 572 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: neither guy separates himself, then guess what that might tell 573 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 3: you about both guys at once, and maybe an unknown 574 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: is in play. We know what maniasa for did a 575 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: year ago. Camp was over, preseason was over, and they 576 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: part of ways with Cole McCoy and brought in Josh Dobbs. 577 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: So be ready for virtue anything. If Clayton Tune and 578 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter don't prove themselves, if they don't earn the 579 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: trust of the coaches and their teammates, then I would say, yes, 580 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: the front office might start looking. 581 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: And it was the two joint practices against the Vikings. 582 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: It was that second joint practice in which they are like, yeah, 583 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: we need to find someone in here. We're not comfortable 584 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: with Colt. We're not Clayton's certainly not ready to go. 585 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: And at that point it was okay, let's hit the 586 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: emergency break glass and go find somebody. And Dobbs was acquired. 587 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: And that's the value of the joint practices because you 588 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: get a regular season look. You can really lull yourself 589 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: to sleep thinking, Okay, we got a guy because he's 590 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: covering up Van Nilla defenses in camp or in preseason games. 591 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: But you got to see Colt McCoy against Brian Floor's 592 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: number one defense, and coach Flow as they call him, 593 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: was calling a lot of exotic blitzes and bring a 594 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: lot of different stuff and looks, and the Cardinals deciding, 595 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: you know what, this isn't working the way we wanted to. 596 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't for those joint practices, you 597 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: probably would have gone into the regular season with Colt 598 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: McCoy because, and we said this before, the preseason can 599 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: give you a false positive because you don't get a 600 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: regular season look in those joint practices. That's why they're 601 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: so valuable. That's another reason why Kyler Murray is not 602 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: playing in the preseason. Why would you take all the 603 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: risk of getting hurt with virtually no reward throwing against 604 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: vanilla defenses and backups on the other team. Just save 605 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 3: it for a controlled environment, a joint practice where he'll 606 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: go against ones, he'll get regular season schemes and no 607 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: one's hitting the quarterback. 608 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: First joint practices against the Colts next Wednesday and Thursday 609 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. But the first time, Bird Gang you can 610 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: see this Cardinals team in action Saturday against the New 611 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. Five o'clock is the kickoff before we exit here, Paul. 612 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Outside of what we've already talked about, but as the 613 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: play by play guy on Saturday, what are you paying 614 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: attention to, is there a question that you hope gets 615 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: answered or you feel a little bit more comfortable as 616 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: you exit the press box and head to your car 617 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: and of course listening to Cardinal talk afterwards on your 618 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: way home. 619 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: Every time, every time I do yes, I would like 620 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: to see the cornerback room, see if we get more 621 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: definition there, what exactly are you looking at. Definitely like 622 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: to see someone show up in terms of the pass rush, 623 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: whether it's Xavier Thomas. Definitely like to see the back 624 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: end of the running room, running back room behind James Connor. 625 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: There's no doubt Amri de Mercado is very valuable based 626 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: on pass pro Based on what I've seen, it's James 627 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: Connor Amrio de Mercado, And there's a big divide between 628 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: those two and the other four running backs on the 629 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: roster when it comes to pass protection. Thou shalt protect 630 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: that quarterback, especially when it's Kyler Murray. He's making fifty 631 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: plus a year and he's your franchise. So Amaro de 632 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: Mercado is on this team. Now, what happens the rest 633 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: of that running back room? Obviously the dynamic kickoff, want 634 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: to see how that comes into play. I don't know 635 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: how much the Cardinals and other teams are going to 636 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: show in the preseason, but I do want to see it. 637 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: And then, of course, if Darius Robinson is going to 638 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: get some reps, oh man, we need a nice o 639 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: Cama number fifty six. I don't expect Marvin Harrison Junior 640 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: to play, just because every time he's taken a pass 641 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: it's been from Kyler Murray. Like they'll literally changed quarterbacks 642 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: just so Kyler can throw to Marvin. So if Kyler 643 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 3: isn't playing, I don't expect Marvin to play, at least 644 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: in the first game. He might I have no idea. 645 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: He said he wants to play, but they might just 646 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: go with you know what, you'll get enough regular season 647 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: looks in the joint practice. We're not going to take 648 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: a chance. But if Darius Robinson is going, then I 649 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: want to see the carnage that ensues. And you know what, 650 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: they have a pro Bowl center of the Saints. I 651 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: don't know if he's going in this game, but they 652 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: have a pretty stout offensive line that they changed out 653 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: in the offseason, so potentially he could get a pretty 654 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: good test. 655 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: And if Darius does do something spectacular on Saturday here 656 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. You might not see him again 657 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: until week one in Buffalo. As far as game stuff, 658 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, practices and the joint practices, but that'd 659 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, he got his feet wet, We're. 660 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: Good, and you keep the wraps on him. And you 661 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 3: know how teams love to keep certain things a secret, 662 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: So yes, I could absolutely see that, There's no question 663 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: about it. And then tip Ryman. I want to see 664 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: tip Ryman out there, and I want to see tip 665 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: Ryman get a few targets in the past game. I 666 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 3: told you the minimum number is four. I need four 667 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: tight end screens a game two to Trey McBride too, 668 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 3: to tip Ryman, and the tight end screens will be 669 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: called who wants some? When you give it to tip 670 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: Ryman and just get them the ball in space and 671 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: then enjoy what ensues next. 672 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: Turn the TV on Saturday, turn down Pash and we'll 673 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: turn up Haley play by play and Jay Feely again. 674 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: Five pm is to kick off one thirty Pregame coverage 675 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. And I appreciate 676 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: that very much, Paul, because yes, my uh, I've got 677 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: a permanent seat from one thirty to four forty. I 678 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: believe is when you'll walk into that radio booth and 679 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: do your thing. 680 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hope you're conditioning is good. Craig, get 681 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: a good night's sleep, because yes you have. You have 682 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: marathon on airtime during the preseason, no doubt about that. 683 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: I would not have it any other way. And on 684 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 685 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Yundai, pro partner of 686 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 687 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amaire, our associate producer Coudi Fincher for Paul Calvc. 688 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm Craig rial Lou. We'll talk to you next time 689 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.