Speaker 1: Colson Media. This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder,
Speaker 1: our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House,
Speaker 1: the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm
Speaker 1: Garrison Davis today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout,
Speaker 1: and Robert Evans. Yes, this episode we are covering the
Speaker 1: week of July nine to July sixteen. What's going on,
Speaker 1: my boys and in some cases gals, and in some
Speaker 1: cases days that were its or whatever, And the answer
Speaker 1: for everyone is ed hooray in some cases my gals.
Speaker 1: I guess let's start by talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: That's what we always do, Jepstein. Yeah, you know what, Garrison,
Speaker 2: I hear You've got some bars to drop about Epstein.
Speaker 2: Jesus all right, that's that's my work for the day.
Speaker 1: Brief brief summary. Previously on this show, we talked about
Speaker 1: how Patel and a Bungino, the head of the FBI,
Speaker 1: have previously come under fire from micro supporters for saying
Speaker 1: that Epstein really did kill himself. And this has kind
Speaker 1: of been bubbling in the base for a while because
Speaker 1: they used this as one of their main like campaign
Speaker 1: and podcast talking points for the past four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bongino was a huge.
Speaker 1: Elstein, I mean, and like Patel's like the QAnon guy,
Speaker 1: like he's both these guys have have made their careers
Speaker 1: the past four years like heavily about this topic, right,
Speaker 1: And now they are, you know, backtracking on a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of the previous you know claims or you know,
Speaker 1: just asking questions type stuff that they did the past
Speaker 1: few years. And like a week and a half ago,
Speaker 1: a memo from the Department of Justice announced that it
Speaker 1: was closing the investigation and claiming that there was no
Speaker 1: client list for Jeffrey Epstein, despite Pambondi herself boasting about
Speaker 1: having Epstein's client list on her desk only a few
Speaker 1: months ago. This caused a huge freakout in the mega world.
Speaker 1: There was conflicting reports that Bondi or Patel or Bungino
Speaker 1: might be resigning like in protest of this memo. A
Speaker 1: lot of like uncertainty over what was real. And then
Speaker 1: on July twelfth, Trump had to speak his own truth
Speaker 1: social okay quote, what's going on with my boys and
Speaker 1: in some cases gals, They're all going after Attorney General
Speaker 1: Pambondi's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team Mega
Speaker 1: and I don't like what's happening. We have a perfect administration,
Speaker 1: the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying
Speaker 1: to hurt it all over a guy who never dies,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over again.
Speaker 1: Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama,
Speaker 1: Crooked Hillary, Komy Brennan and the losers and criminals of
Speaker 1: the Biden administration who conned the world with the Russia
Speaker 1: RUSSA Russia hoax, fifty one intelligence agents, and the Laptop
Speaker 1: from Hell all caps. They created the Epstein files, just
Speaker 1: like they created the fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele dossier
Speaker 1: that they used on me. And now my so called
Speaker 1: friends and quotes are playing right into their hands. So
Speaker 1: this was right after claiming that the Epstein files did
Speaker 1: not exist, that these things are not actually real, and
Speaker 1: then Trump's talking about how they are real but they
Speaker 1: are in fact written by his enemies. Despite the most
Speaker 1: recent investigation into Jeffrey Epstein starting in twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 1: if you remember, Donald Trump was the president.
Speaker 3: Well Darson the defining political question of the modern areas,
Speaker 3: Who was president in twenty twenty, so I can see
Speaker 3: it moving back.
Speaker 2: There's no answer to this question, you know, we just can't.
Speaker 2: We don't know, we will never know. There's no way
Speaker 2: to prove it. Our records don't reach back that far.
Speaker 2: We just simply can't say who president was. The mists
Speaker 2: of time have shaded.
Speaker 1: So much of modern domestic politics is about confusion over
Speaker 1: who was president in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty when
Speaker 1: it was Donald Trump. He ends by saying, quote, let's
Speaker 1: not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein. Somebody nobody
Speaker 1: cares about.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: So funny. You could tell he's so far gone too.
Speaker 2: He sounds scared because he never fully understood this stuff.
Speaker 2: Like there's things that he understands instinctually, and there's things
Speaker 2: that he never really got. And because he was Epstein's friend,
Speaker 2: he never really got why this was so central. He
Speaker 2: kind of got that it was, but he also kind
Speaker 2: of assumed, like, well, if I tell everyone to shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up, they will.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be fuck up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: how he's done things for the past like twelve years,
Speaker 1: and it's more often than not worked really well for him.
Speaker 1: But this has become such a load bearing aspect of
Speaker 1: like the maga self image, Like this is like, you know,
Speaker 1: this type of stuff is what drug QAnon essentially like
Speaker 1: a cult. And he never fully understood why QAnon was
Speaker 1: really a thing. He never like truly grasped it.
Speaker 2: That's why he never really he started more recently doing
Speaker 2: some QAnon signposting, but yeah, he clearly never fully got
Speaker 2: why it was happening. Yeah, like it was convenient.
Speaker 1: And now the monster that he and his you know,
Speaker 1: quote unquote friends have helped create all these years is
Speaker 1: starting to nibble on his own leg.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This past weekend, influencers like Tim Poole, Benny Johnson, and
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk all started to kind of turn on Trump
Speaker 1: on a play a quick video from disgraced BuzzFeed writer
Speaker 1: Benny Johnson now right wing podcaster by.
Speaker 5: Admitting that the Epstein files are real and have been written,
Speaker 5: and that you've read them and you don't like their
Speaker 5: contents and they were written by your enemies. It doesn't
Speaker 5: make it doesn't make the most compelling case.
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned. Holy moly, holy moly, holy moly.
Speaker 1: You had to hear first. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff over the weekend, like this, this whole like
Speaker 1: podcasting Gohert, which which so many people, you know, credit
Speaker 1: to Trump's great success in twenty twenty four, all started
Speaker 1: asking questions and were kind of confused. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they would be. It's been very well documented that
Speaker 1: Trump was friends with Epstein for a long time, but
Speaker 1: this time this thing finally broke containment. Yeah. And when
Speaker 1: you have like fucking Charlie Kirk, someone who's basically like
Speaker 1: one of the GOP's like top narrative shepherds essentially, and
Speaker 1: when you have him like questioning the president's own story
Speaker 1: and credibility, that's like a pretty big shake up in
Speaker 1: the mega world.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really explicable. There's no plausible deniability.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: I think for a long time this has been like
Speaker 7: the load bearing cognitive dissonance for this entire movement. And
Speaker 7: I actually do think when Elon first was just like
Speaker 7: he's in the files, I think that was the first
Speaker 7: moment that all these people were suddenly allowed to do this.
Speaker 1: That was the first domino. Definitely. Yeah, he cracked the
Speaker 1: shot on it.
Speaker 7: And I think that has like torn open this rift
Speaker 7: that has allowed all of these people who previously their
Speaker 7: cognate business has sustained them through a decade of like, yeah,
Speaker 7: of our dear rulers obviously friends with the pedophile life,
Speaker 7: I'll say.
Speaker 1: It, critical support.
Speaker 7: Even let them fight, Let them fight.
Speaker 1: So the next move that the geniuses of the Trump
Speaker 1: administration tried to pull to to settle things down was
Speaker 1: released the raw footage, the missing raw footage outside Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein's sale, to finally finally close the book on this
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself moment, and they released it,
Speaker 1: and everyone realized, you know what, They're right, there's nothing
Speaker 1: more to look into here closed.
Speaker 2: We all rose up, as if with one voice to say,
Speaker 2: this doesn't seem suspicious.
Speaker 1: So Wired found that this quote unquote raw video was
Speaker 1: actually edited and had it nearly three minutes removed.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, but look it does not. Doesn't Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 2: deserve some privacy, you know, three minutes on his own.
Speaker 1: It was a really personal decision for somebody to take
Speaker 1: and I yeah, exactly. So No, after claiming that like
Speaker 1: they've released this, this this completely, this is completely you know,
Speaker 1: ripped straight from the hard drive. Raw footage uh, it
Speaker 1: showed that it was edited in Adobe premiere and has
Speaker 1: these missing missing three minutes. Pamp BONDI initially tried to
Speaker 1: say that there's usually a minute missing from footage because
Speaker 1: of a computer reset that happens every night at the
Speaker 1: same time, which was that immediately proven incorrect by the
Speaker 1: by there being way more than one minute missing. Yeah, minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they're simply like I came into this as like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, you know, maybe he.
Speaker 1: Killed himself, maybe nut jelse I mean.
Speaker 2: And now I'm I'm I am sincerely more on the
Speaker 2: well something there's something there.
Speaker 1: Heighth yea.
Speaker 7: I will say there's one thing that I think this
Speaker 7: does definitively rule out, which is that it was definitely
Speaker 7: not the Clinton crime family.
Speaker 1: We've ruled out one possible.
Speaker 2: Now, you see, this brings me to a theory that
Speaker 2: I have been working on for the last couple of days,
Speaker 2: and I think this is this is really important to
Speaker 2: get out to people. So obviously, the other big statement
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump made in the last week was that
Speaker 2: his uncle, who used to be a professor at MIT,
Speaker 2: had taught Ted Kazinski and talked to him about Ted
Speaker 2: Kazinski and been like, yay, you know, there's a real
Speaker 2: thin line between genius and insanity. And then it came
Speaker 2: out that Donald Trump's uncle, who taught at MIT, died
Speaker 2: in nineteen and eighty five, and of course the unibomber
Speaker 2: was not publicly identified until nineteen ninety six. Now, some
Speaker 2: people have interpreted this as Donald Trump lying, which I
Speaker 2: think we can all agree doesn't seem like something he
Speaker 2: would do.
Speaker 1: So the only.
Speaker 2: Other explanation is that Trump and his family knew who
Speaker 2: the unibomber was for more than a decade and kept
Speaker 2: it hidden from the rest of the United States. Now,
Speaker 2: what is the unibomber and Donald Chuck Trump have in common?
Speaker 2: Obviously two people who were treated very unfairly by the Clintons, Right,
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree on that, you know,
Speaker 2: so it all ties together.
Speaker 1: Both are possibly victims of m K Ultra, that's right. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: his little Tuesday speech in Pittsburgh was quite bizarre. Not
Speaker 1: just that Kasinski never went to MIT. Say, to my knowledge, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just did not go to the university that doctor
Speaker 1: John Trump was at. I will say this is the.
Speaker 7: First one of these stories that this genuinely sounds like
Speaker 7: an Alex Jones story, Like this is the kind of
Speaker 7: story that Alex Jones tells about his uncles all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ain't. They ain't talking to Alex Jones right now.
Speaker 1: No, definitely.
Speaker 3: But it's like persona non grotra in the White House currently.
Speaker 1: It is a truly bizarre ramble.
Speaker 8: I have to take it off to brag just for
Speaker 8: a second, because when I first heard about AI, you know.
Speaker 1: It's not my thing. Although my uncle was at MIT,
Speaker 1: one of the great.
Speaker 8: Professors fifty one years whatever, he longest serving professor in
Speaker 8: the history of MIT, three degrees in nuclear chemical and math.
Speaker 1: It's a sportman.
Speaker 8: Kazinski was one of his students. Do you know who
Speaker 8: Kazinsky was? There's very little difference between a madman and
Speaker 8: a genius. But Kazink said, what kind of a student
Speaker 8: was he? Uncle John, doctor John Trump? He said, what
Speaker 8: kind of a student? Man?
Speaker 1: He said, seriously? Good, he said.
Speaker 8: He'd correct you go around correcting everybody. But it didn't
Speaker 8: work out too well for him. Didn't work out too well,
Speaker 8: But it's interesting in life.
Speaker 1: Didn't work out too well for him.
Speaker 3: Share didn't christ to be fair, he never, He never
Speaker 3: gives a first name.
Speaker 1: It could have been another, it could be a different Goody.
Speaker 1: This is true, James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, people, I'm not also God. That whole thing
Speaker 3: just the undergrady goes around correcting everyone cases.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But back to Epstein, the thing that Trump doesn't
Speaker 1: want us talking about.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: By Monday, some of this, like Influencer podcasting class started
Speaker 1: to kind of close ranks. The skepticism and frustration that
Speaker 1: they expressed over the weekend subsided and they started to
Speaker 1: repeat the party line. Charlie Kirk said on his show,
Speaker 1: quote plenty was said this last weekend at our event
Speaker 1: about Epstein. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the
Speaker 1: time being. I'm gonna trust my friends in the administration.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust my friends in the government to do
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, solve it balls in their hands.
Speaker 1: I've said this last weekend, So if you guys want
Speaker 1: to see my commentary on it, that's fine. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: my opinion on the Epstein thing. The messaging of Fumble.
Speaker 1: I would love to see the DOJ move to unseal
Speaker 1: the grand jury testimony unquote. The messaging Fumble really the
Speaker 1: biggest problem with it. The biggest problem with Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: has been the messaging fumble, not yeah, decades of horrific
Speaker 1: sex crimes tied to the president of the United States.
Speaker 7: Also, I love that he's trying to trust the plan
Speaker 7: people with Like the thing that trust the plan is
Speaker 7: about reviewing.
Speaker 3: This is about yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just keep trusting it.
Speaker 3: I do want to say that, I because I hate myself.
Speaker 3: I listened to Sean Ryan's podcast interview with Gavin Newsom,
Speaker 3: which yeah, I don't suggest it is four hours if
Speaker 3: you're wondering. So never get pissed off about our episodes
Speaker 3: going long again, please, lots of interesting stuff. Trump has
Speaker 3: lost Sean ryot he is not towing the line on
Speaker 3: this Epstein stuff. He's clearly piste about it, and like
Speaker 3: Ryan is a sizable influence on the right. He has
Speaker 3: about five million YouTube subscribers right He's one of the
Speaker 3: top ten podcasts on Spotify. He's interviewed Trump on his
Speaker 3: pot like when Trump did his podcast Defensive before the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four election, Ryan was one of the places
Speaker 3: he went. And it seems like Ryan is not on
Speaker 3: the like RNC paid poster list, because he seemed like
Speaker 3: more critical of Trump than Gavin Newsom was in that interview,
Speaker 3: weirdly specifically about the Epstein stuff, which it was kind
Speaker 3: of remarkable to me, and I think like we should
Speaker 3: note that it's he has a significant influence on a
Speaker 3: certain type of people.
Speaker 1: Someone who certainly does appear to be on the RNC
Speaker 1: paid list is documentary filmmaker Denesh Desuza.
Speaker 9: I'm going to talk about the Epstein files, and I'm
Speaker 9: going to make the case that even though there are
Speaker 9: unanswered questions about Epstein, it is in fact time to
Speaker 9: move on.
Speaker 1: Very convincing.
Speaker 3: Exactly, there's nobody with a firearm out of shot in
Speaker 3: that video, so I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 1: He's closed yep seems good to me. In another move
Speaker 1: for transparency, on Tuesday, Republicans unanimously voted to block the
Speaker 1: release of the Epstein files. Betty Johnson interviewed Speaker of
Speaker 1: the House Mike Johnson about how they kind of want
Speaker 1: to handle this and they're trying to make this argument
Speaker 1: that they're that they want to be transparent, but they
Speaker 1: have to make sure that they protect protect the victims,
Speaker 1: and that's why they can't release the files.
Speaker 7: Sure, Yeah, protect victims, Republican Party.
Speaker 1: Compelling, compelling stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Part of what makes this super weird is like Trump
Speaker 1: just keeps giving though just the most bizarre, most like
Speaker 1: I'm totally not gilt comments in media and something he
Speaker 1: said on Tuesday I found to be quite interesting, not
Speaker 1: because of what he actually said, but because of how
Speaker 1: he said it. See if see I see see if
Speaker 1: you can catch this.
Speaker 3: You specifically think.
Speaker 1: She'd tell you about all that.
Speaker 4: Your name up here and no, no, she's She's given
Speaker 4: us just a very quick briefing and in terms of
Speaker 4: the credibility of the different things.
Speaker 10: That they've seen, and I would say that you know,
Speaker 10: these files were made up by Komi, they were made
Speaker 10: up by Obama, they were made up by.
Speaker 1: The Biden from you know, uh we and.
Speaker 10: We went through years of that with the Russia Russia
Speaker 10: Russia hoax, with all of the different things.
Speaker 1: That we had to go through. We've gone through years
Speaker 1: of it. But she's handled it very well and it's
Speaker 1: going to be very convincing stuff.
Speaker 3: You can see, Caroline levit just like just like being
Speaker 3: it right.
Speaker 1: Like right, first time I've heard Trump like stutter like
Speaker 1: this before, and like Trump's whole idea of reality is
Speaker 1: if you speak it enough, that becomes true. You can
Speaker 1: literally bend like the concept of truth, you can bend
Speaker 1: reality using your words. And that this is why he,
Speaker 1: you know, talks about being a winner. This is why
Speaker 1: he only surrounds himself with people who are winners. Like
Speaker 1: he thinks that reality is this malleable thing that you
Speaker 1: affect through asserting your own will. And he's done this
Speaker 1: super successfully, especially throughout his career in politics. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a mixed record of it in his uh business
Speaker 1: business era, but certainly in his political uh but certainly
Speaker 1: through his political career, he's done this fairly well. This
Speaker 1: is why almost half the country believes that the last
Speaker 1: election was stolen, just because he said it enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the first time I've heard him break while
Speaker 1: trying to speak reality into being like he literally could
Speaker 1: not get himself to do it click cleanly, and that
Speaker 1: is notable to me. He's made a series of truths
Speaker 1: later that day, talking about how quote, my past supporters
Speaker 1: have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker very good,
Speaker 1: and he's he's now moved to call the Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: story the Epstein hoax.
Speaker 7: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: He had an Oval Office press conference Wednesday morning. Quote.
Speaker 1: I call it the Epstein hoax. They're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who died three four years ago. And the sad
Speaker 1: part is is people are doing a Democrat's work. They
Speaker 1: are stupid people.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the sad part about what happened
Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein. I think there are other sad things
Speaker 3: related to his conduct.
Speaker 1: A man is dead, you know.
Speaker 7: I think the thing that is like very alarming about
Speaker 7: this so that I think is very dangerous about this
Speaker 7: entire situation. A lot of this on the right has
Speaker 7: always been sort of motivated by anti Semitism. Yeah, well,
Speaker 7: and I think we are going like we are already
Speaker 7: seeing some shit.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, Mia, Yeah, because another voice
Speaker 1: has joined the call to release the files. Oh God
Speaker 1: for Processively Street residents. Elmo made a series of I
Speaker 1: will say, shocking statements over the weekend. Expressly good shocking.
Speaker 2: If you've been familiar with some of the court cases
Speaker 2: against Elmo over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I know Larry David attacked Elmore a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and he had probably seen coming as saying this for
Speaker 1: years as a Jewish man. I think he saw through
Speaker 1: Elmo stick and knew the anti Semitism at the heart
Speaker 1: of Elbow that was being suppressed Nazi. But yeah, Elbow
Speaker 1: made some shocking tweets just you know, very similar to
Speaker 1: like what happened to Kanye a few years ago.
Speaker 2: Similar figures. You know, they they both kind of come
Speaker 2: out of the same chunks of like American hip hop culture.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not super surprising, and I think they
Speaker 2: were both close for a long like a number of
Speaker 2: years before either man's career blew up.
Speaker 1: But he very anti simitic statements, also calling for the
Speaker 1: release of the Epstein files. Yeah, Elmo has since backtracked,
Speaker 1: hired a PR team, it seems, has scrubbed the tweets,
Speaker 1: handling the back clash a little bit better than Kanye did.
Speaker 1: But still it's gonna be hard to look past this
Speaker 1: as Elmo attempts to, you know, continue Almo's career.
Speaker 2: Especially since Elmo is now running for president with Nick
Speaker 2: Fuintes as campaign manager. You know, just an I didn't
Speaker 2: he just an inadvisable?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is that is upsetting.
Speaker 2: He's quote swears it's not a Nazi thing. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of debate about that.
Speaker 1: I will will reach out to Bernernie for comment. There's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of replies to Elbow's tweet, quoting for
Speaker 1: Elmo to resign if Elbow is a a real person
Speaker 1: and he genuinely believes and ship, Yeah, I'm gonna quote one.
Speaker 1: It's just too good. Resign.
Speaker 3: You posted the most vile hate speech since the latest
Speaker 3: Tucker Calsa and Polkas saying what you did about Jews
Speaker 3: is Nazi star rhetoric and you should be out of it.
Speaker 1: All but the veryest fire Elmo. Yeah, yeah, hashtag fire
Speaker 1: Elma everybody, Yeah, get it, get it trending.
Speaker 7: In Jenny Wine. All seriousness, though, I think it is
Speaker 7: really alarming that a lot of the like on the right,
Speaker 7: the way that like a lot of this resistance is
Speaker 7: crystallizing the Trump over this is just the like, oh,
Speaker 7: they're like, this is like Epstein was a massad agent.
Speaker 7: Trump is a massage agent. Yeah right, It's all just
Speaker 7: pure it's puired desemptism.
Speaker 1: The Jews are blackmailing US politicians with you know, child porn,
Speaker 1: and yeah, and and and.
Speaker 7: I think I think there's there's two angles on this one.
Speaker 7: In the very short term, it's obviously very good that
Speaker 7: Trump is losing support. However, Comma, if, if, and when
Speaker 7: we defeat Trump, we are going to have to pivot
Speaker 7: and smash these people so fucking hard that they never
Speaker 7: reappear again, because this could get really, really fucking bad
Speaker 7: very quickly. And I don't I don't think, I don't know.
Speaker 7: We we recovered this on the show, right, We're like
Speaker 7: all this or banty Semitism has been turned into yelling
Speaker 7: at like Mumdonnie for something he didn't say. And then meanwhile,
Speaker 7: like the elmal account is being hacked by like just
Speaker 7: literally a guy saying kill all Jews, tight out lacies.
Speaker 7: And that's just like a bubbling, massive undercurrents of the
Speaker 7: US now in politics that is going to have a
Speaker 7: bunch of profound impacts that we fucking don't understand yet
Speaker 7: and we have to deal with eventually.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, this is the unfortunate reality is that anti Semitism
Speaker 2: is turning into a block that could potentially swing an
Speaker 2: election one way or the other. And it's not a
Speaker 2: block that's necessarily locked into left or right. It's left
Speaker 2: into whoever's going to play to those delusions, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And the fact that we're as deep in the weeds
Speaker 2: as we are right now with a right wing fascist
Speaker 2: movement does not mean that there could not be a
Speaker 2: left wing authoritarian movement that clings to anti Semitism as
Speaker 2: a way to gain power. It's happened in the world before.
Speaker 2: It's it's not something the left is immune from. It's
Speaker 2: not it's obviously not my the top of my threat model,
Speaker 2: right like, this isn't I don't I would not say
Speaker 2: this is the thing to focus on. But it's something
Speaker 2: again that to be aware of. Is that like the
Speaker 2: fact that this you get, I think what you need
Speaker 2: to keep in mind when you're trying to parse out
Speaker 2: the future, think of how weird it is that some
Speaker 2: of the figures who wound up aligned with Trump are
Speaker 2: aligned with Trump right now. How a lot of folks
Speaker 2: who you would have during like the Bushy years, like
Speaker 2: the W's years, you would have put on the left
Speaker 2: or at least as like kind of contra to the
Speaker 2: Christian right, and who have now completely like dove into
Speaker 2: that side of things. And in some way even RFK
Speaker 2: can shift that rapidly again, and it will one way
Speaker 2: in some ways, right, like, there are ways in which
Speaker 2: this is inevitable. And that's why you need to be
Speaker 2: on the lookout about stuff like this. You have to
Speaker 2: keep your head on a fucking swibble.
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Speaker 3: Right, we are back, and now we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about immigration, a topic which is always fun and only
Speaker 3: good things happen. So to begin with today we're recording.
Speaker 3: On the sixteenth, the Trump administration has begun renditioning people
Speaker 3: to Swtinis christ a Twatini small landlocked country in Africa.
Speaker 3: People are not familiar Africa's last absolute monarchy. This follows
Speaker 3: their rendition of eight people to South Sudan. The South
Speaker 3: Sudanese press is reporting that those men are in prison
Speaker 3: in South Sudan, which contradicts Tom Homan's statement to political
Speaker 3: that quote, when we sign these agreements with all these countries,
Speaker 3: we make arrangements to make sure these countries are receiving
Speaker 3: these people. And there's opportunities for these people. But I
Speaker 3: can't tell if we remove somebody to suit done, they
Speaker 3: could stay there a week and leave. I don't know,
Speaker 3: Homan has said, and other atlets that he believed they
Speaker 3: were just kind of free in South Dudan, that they
Speaker 3: were just like released to wander around.
Speaker 1: That does not.
Speaker 3: Seem to be the case, Jesus. The Swortini people. Tricia McLaughlin,
Speaker 3: who's a i think a deputy Sector of Homeland Security,
Speaker 3: called the people sent to Swortini quote uniquely barbaric.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: She used a thread on x dot com everything you
Speaker 3: can find all kinds of stuff on there fare that way.
Speaker 3: She did not name the men in her thread, but
Speaker 3: she did list their convictions. Most of these were sex crimes,
Speaker 3: having children and various types of murder, homicide, manslaughter. This
Speaker 3: has caused widespread concern in Eswatini, right, the idea that
Speaker 3: the US is just sending random people who have been
Speaker 3: convicted of crimes to Swortini. In a statement, the government said, quote,
Speaker 3: five inmates are currently housed in our correctional facilities in
Speaker 3: isolated u and it's where similar offenders are kept. The
Speaker 3: nation is assured that these inmates pose no threat to
Speaker 3: the country or its citizens. The statement given by government
Speaker 3: spokesman Fabeli Mudluli went on quote this exercise is a
Speaker 3: result of months of robust high level engagements among the
Speaker 3: United States government. The two governments will collaborate with the
Speaker 3: International Organization for Migration to facilitate the transit of these
Speaker 3: inmates to their countries of origin. So this seems to
Speaker 3: suggest that a this has been planned for months, which
Speaker 3: is not a particular surprise, right, the US government has
Speaker 3: clearly been pushing for these like third country renditions for
Speaker 3: a while, but also that like this is a potential
Speaker 3: end run around things like the Convention against Torture withholding
Speaker 3: of removal right like either people whose governments won't accept
Speaker 3: them back from the US or people who have withholding
Speaker 3: of removal because they have a reasonable fear of being
Speaker 3: tortured or of harm coming to that they're sent back
Speaker 3: to the countries of origin. I guess going to be
Speaker 3: sent back via Swortini is what it seems like. So
Speaker 3: this is pretty troubling. It seems to suggest that essentially
Speaker 3: that's what the US is doing. We're not quite clear
Speaker 3: how much the US has paid Swortini. Yet they paid
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand for one person to be sent to Rwanda.
Speaker 3: We still don't know where that person is. We don't
Speaker 3: know exactly how much they paid to South Sudan. They
Speaker 3: have requested a number of other countries, lots of them
Speaker 3: in West Africa, to accept people via this rendition process.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about it on a whole episode
Speaker 3: that we have coming out next Tuesday, if you're interested
Speaker 3: to hear more about that. Another piece of legislation that
Speaker 3: I wanted to cover just because I've seen it getting
Speaker 3: a lot of attension and I think it kind of
Speaker 3: bears mentioning. A bipartisan group of legislators has introduced legislation
Speaker 3: to fundamentally reform the immigration system. It's called the Dignity
Speaker 3: or Dignitad Act, and it has about as much chance
Speaker 3: of success the chocolate teapot. It's co sponsored by Republican
Speaker 3: Maria Salazar, She's from Florida, and Democrat Veronica Escobar from
Speaker 3: El Paso, Texas. Salazar, in an interview today with News
Speaker 3: Nations said, quote, there is no other president like Trump.
Speaker 3: I have faith that he could be for immigration what
Speaker 3: Lincoln was for slavery and Reagan was for communism. Just
Speaker 3: watch him, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Guess one could make some argains about like some of
Speaker 3: the abolitionists just wanting to send folks off back to Africa, right,
Speaker 3: But I don't think that that's what most people understand
Speaker 3: to be Lincoln's legacy for slavery.
Speaker 7: I mean, he could definitely be like Reagan. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: give her that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The big problem with this pizza legislation, which Salazar has
Speaker 3: tried to introduce before, right, she tried it twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three as well, is that it relies on people coming
Speaker 3: forward to a bit that they have no legal status
Speaker 3: and being offered a quote dignity status, which is somewhat
Speaker 3: analogous to permanent residency, but without a pathway citizenship, it
Speaker 3: creates a permanent underclass. It relies on people trusting immigration authorities,
Speaker 3: and that's not going to happen now. There is no
Speaker 3: way in hell that people are going to come forward
Speaker 3: and say, yes, I'm undocumented after what we've seen for
Speaker 3: the last six months. Right, Like people didn't trust the
Speaker 3: authorities before, but after what we've seen in the last
Speaker 3: six months, it's completely implosed.
Speaker 1: But it's ludicrous. They don't want people coming forward with
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's the whole point of scaring them away,
Speaker 1: is to make them basically not able to function in
Speaker 1: this country. Yes, exactly. They don't want to give people
Speaker 1: safe status, like make living in this country like as
Speaker 1: impossible as possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have undermined the trust that allows them to
Speaker 3: do what is supposed to be the core of their job,
Speaker 3: just to get deportation numbers up, to get detention at
Speaker 3: these up.
Speaker 1: This is just a fluffer thing.
Speaker 3: It's people in the House of Representatives trying to boost
Speaker 3: their reelection chances by saying that they tried to do
Speaker 3: something different. Right, It's not seriously going to succeed, no way.
Speaker 1: Fine.
Speaker 3: A Canadian judge has halted the deportation of a non
Speaker 3: binary person back to the USA, citing conditions here. Quoting here,
Speaker 3: the officer failed to consider recent evidence of the conditions
Speaker 3: that may have supported a reasonable fear of persecution. So
Speaker 3: to Judge Julie Blackhawk Thirst Indigenous Women appointed to a
Speaker 3: Canadian federal court, it seems that Angel Jenkle entered Canada
Speaker 3: as a visitor and that they're now engaged to a
Speaker 3: Canadian person. I'm guessing that they overstayed there. Their visitors
Speaker 3: slash toories that you probably can get a visa waiver
Speaker 3: of your US it's in down to Canada, and they
Speaker 3: probably overstayed that they requested a risk assessment before being
Speaker 3: deported to the USA, and the ruling suggests that the
Speaker 3: immigration official who conducted it had used outdated information and
Speaker 3: regarding the safety of LGBTQIA people in the USA. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's where things things are at now. I'm aware of
Speaker 3: people also trans and non binary people from the US
Speaker 3: seeking asylum in Mexico lately. It was a year ago
Speaker 3: that trans people were coming here to be safe, and
Speaker 3: now people are moving in the other direction, which is
Speaker 3: pretty damning combination of how things have gone in this country. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's all the exciting fun immigration news I have this week.
Speaker 1: That really sucks. The fucking sucks. Yeah, I guess. One
Speaker 1: small update tangentially related. A judge in New Hampshire blocked
Speaker 1: Trump's order on birthright citizenship while sidestepping the Supreme Court's
Speaker 1: ruling against nationwide injunctions by adding all children born on
Speaker 1: US soil to a certified nationwide class So it's just
Speaker 1: now a massive class action case. This has had to
Speaker 1: go in effect on July seventeenth. We're according this on
Speaker 1: the sixteenth. We'll see if the government responds. And July
Speaker 1: seventeenth is just ten days before the partial implementation date
Speaker 1: of Trump's executive order. Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to start this by noting that a fan reached
Speaker 2: out to us on Blue Sky recently with a clip
Speaker 2: from a quote by Omar Sharif, founder and president of
Speaker 2: Inflation Insights, who wrote in a note to clients, today's
Speaker 2: report showed that tariffs are beginning to bite, and yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this is we finally come beautifully back from Tarif.
Speaker 2: Don't like it to Sharif, don't like it. It's beautiful,
Speaker 2: you know, it's It's like poetry. It rhymes. Anyway, here's
Speaker 2: here's the song.
Speaker 11: Jazz jazz bot, sorry jazzy jazz Bob.
Speaker 3: Do.
Speaker 1: I want to know what Inflation Insights does. It's again that.
Speaker 2: They post clips of Huey Dewey and Louis inflation fetish
Speaker 2: videos from the Deathtails.
Speaker 1: Kit working class that should be a unionized position. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope that they're able to weather the tariffs.
Speaker 2: But what do you think the afl CIO is about?
Speaker 1: One of those word just flation the fl.
Speaker 7: In my time, I deeply remember the first time I
Speaker 7: ever talked about inflation on the show. It could happen
Speaker 7: here because this happened, and I deeply remember that episode
Speaker 7: because we are going back to that fucking episode today.
Speaker 7: At the moments I heard it, I just started getting
Speaker 7: like fucking war flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine how bad those flashbacks would be if you
Speaker 2: had seen ducktails inflation fetish for as a kid.
Speaker 1: I afford until.
Speaker 3: What I have seen is this article. Inflation insights dot
Speaker 3: Com has a fantastic article called what the Great Mayonnaise
Speaker 3: Inflation Mystery can tell us about prices? I'm learning a
Speaker 3: lot here, Okay, Mia, Can we talk about tariffs now?
Speaker 7: Okay? Actual tariffs? So we have we have new tariffs.
Speaker 7: Indonesia apparently has agreed to a tariff deal with the
Speaker 7: US in which the US imposes a nineteen percent tariff
Speaker 7: on Indonesia and Indonesia doesn't impose one back. Perc CNN.
Speaker 7: Trump posted on true social quote that Indonesia is buying
Speaker 7: fifteen billion dollars in the US energy, five point four
Speaker 7: billion dollars in American agricultural products, and fifty Boeing jets,
Speaker 7: many of them seven to seventy sevens. Fucking rip Indonesia,
Speaker 7: good luck with those planes. Oh no, So the Indonesian
Speaker 7: government was complaining to the press about how much of
Speaker 7: a shit show negotiating this was. We'll see if it holds.
Speaker 7: We also got news that Trump as Trump has announced
Speaker 7: that he's going to basically send a tariff letter to
Speaker 7: like one hundred and fifty countries setting their rate simultaneously.
Speaker 7: But he hasn't done it yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's possible. By the time this goes out, we'll have that,
Speaker 7: we'll have the actual number on it. Who knows what's
Speaker 7: going on with that? Is that the August third tariffs?
Speaker 7: Maybe it's also unclear when they're going to come into effect.
Speaker 7: Like it's all excellent, it's a catastrophe.
Speaker 1: Who knows this?
Speaker 7: This policy is just fucking Calvin Baal. They're just making
Speaker 7: it up as they go right now. There has also
Speaker 7: been very very funny news in our story from last
Speaker 7: week about Trump's tariff demand on Brazil to try to
Speaker 7: get them to release Bolsonaro, which is that this has
Speaker 7: this has backfired spectacularly. He has like saved Lula's flagging
Speaker 7: approval rating. It has created a massive, a massive anti
Speaker 7: Bilsonaro pro Lula Brazilian nationalist backlatch of a kind that
Speaker 7: I really haven't seen since, like Dilma Russeph had to
Speaker 7: deal with, like the fact that the NSA was spying
Speaker 7: on her phone. It's very, very funny. Bolsonaro is being
Speaker 7: accused by like but by Brazilian conservatives of being and
Speaker 7: I quote, a phony new nationalist.
Speaker 1: Who is just like a dog of the US.
Speaker 3: It's amazing Trump's done this incredible pink wave across the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's studying. Kid might save Lula too.
Speaker 7: The funniest part of this is that, like Bolsonaro looks
Speaker 7: at this, it is like, oh fuck, my entire base
Speaker 7: is turning on me because I'm so clearly like a
Speaker 7: dog of the Americans. And so he turned around like denounced,
Speaker 7: like the terrace.
Speaker 12: Is like, it's like an American employ It's Brazil that
Speaker 12: is outstanding. There is now one thing that both Lula
Speaker 12: and Bolsonaro agree on other than cop should kill more people,
Speaker 12: which is that East tariffs are bad.
Speaker 7: He has united all of Brazil. It is absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I try to set up a similar deal with America's
Speaker 1: own critically hospitalized man, Stephen Crowder, and it did not
Speaker 1: work out the same way the way this Bolsonaro deal
Speaker 1: went and some people say it's a little bit me
Speaker 1: to negotiate with someone who just constantly keeps going into
Speaker 1: the hospital for bizarre chest surgeries to make him look
Speaker 1: more masculine. But hey, you know, podcasting is a competitive industry,
Speaker 1: and we tried to create a similar trade deal with
Speaker 1: with Crowder and it has not worked out. He apparently
Speaker 1: had some similar problems with the Daily Wire, so that's
Speaker 1: why you haven't seen much of him on the shows lately.
Speaker 7: Great Incredible. I love that Garrison somehow has become the
Speaker 7: person doing unilateral trade deals for the podcast great Stuff.
Speaker 1: Great Stuff only with people who are constantly in the hospital,
Speaker 1: either through shitting problems or chest masculinization problems. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's really just Stephen Crowder and Bolsonnaro.
Speaker 3: I think there are probably sme of people who are
Speaker 3: in the hospital for shitting problems. If we throw then
Speaker 3: that that white.
Speaker 1: Not as much as Bossonnaro is, Chaps, that's true. Bossnaro
Speaker 1: is the most hospitalized man on the planet, well, second
Speaker 1: only to Stephen Crowder.
Speaker 3: Maybe they hang out there, they might get along, Maybe
Speaker 3: they just some boys time. Maybe maybe they weren't get
Speaker 3: Maybe they hang out in the man cave at the hospital.
Speaker 1: Crowder has been advocating this for years.
Speaker 7: Jesus Christ. Okay, okay. So the final piece of news
Speaker 7: is actually what Robert started this on, which is that
Speaker 7: we have gotten our first sign of actual inflation increases
Speaker 7: from these tariffs. Inflation increase to two point seven percent
Speaker 7: in June, which is still well below the eight percent
Speaker 7: peaks in the early twenty twenties, but it is rising.
Speaker 7: It's also worth knowing this increase has been asymmetric. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna quote from the Financial Times here. Quote June's inflation
Speaker 7: rise was fueled in part by higher food prices, but
Speaker 7: offset by weaker commodity prices. Now, there's two important things here, right. One,
Speaker 7: food prices like matter significantly more for how pissed off
Speaker 7: everyone is than commodity prices do. And secondly, at the
Speaker 7: beginning of August, Trump is trying to impose a fifty
Speaker 7: percent terrifunk copper. So those commodity prices, oh boy.
Speaker 1: Get the copper stuppers ready, folks, I started stockpiling your
Speaker 1: wire now.
Speaker 7: So the other thing that I think is really we're
Speaker 7: discussing about this is the reason there hasn't been more inflation,
Speaker 7: And this has been something that we've kind of proposed
Speaker 7: as a mechanism on the show for what can happen,
Speaker 7: at least temporarily, is that the for right now, largely
Speaker 7: what's been happening is that companies, often directly under pressure
Speaker 7: from Trump, have been just eating the costs.
Speaker 1: Of the tariffs. Yeah, I mean, basically Donald's doing what
Speaker 1: they call off gassing. And that's Donald, both as in
Speaker 1: Duck and as in Trump.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, is that one of the things that can
Speaker 3: get you in hospital with Stephen Krawdin's bulsinara, You.
Speaker 1: Know, James, that's a great guess.
Speaker 7: So as I did long ago in the first time,
Speaker 7: I discovered that my coworkers, if I ever talked about inflation,
Speaker 7: would only talk about Donald Duck inflation.
Speaker 2: And Louie inflation born.
Speaker 1: Thank you very sorry.
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm my ducks are not in a row. So
Speaker 7: the very important part about this, though is these tariffs.
Speaker 7: The very stificant element of this is how pricing is
Speaker 7: actually set.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 7: The general way that you are taught in econ one
Speaker 7: on one that prices are set is prices supply and demand.
Speaker 7: And so from this you would think that the way
Speaker 7: pricing works is people draw a supply and demand graft
Speaker 7: and then you like put it there. That's not how
Speaker 7: any of the ship works. The way prices are actually
Speaker 7: set are specifically by pricing agents at each point in
Speaker 7: a supply chain down the supply chain. Right, So, every
Speaker 7: firm involved in the production of a thing and moving
Speaker 7: the thing, each one sets a price that they're selling
Speaker 7: to the next person who's selling to the next person.
Speaker 7: Each person adds on their cost plus markup, and that's
Speaker 7: what a price is. Now, the reason prices tend not
Speaker 7: to move higher and unlustor's an excuse to do it,
Speaker 7: is that consumers get pissed off when prices rise, even
Speaker 7: if they technically would be willing to pay higher things.
Speaker 1: It damages your brand.
Speaker 7: Right now, what we've been seeing again is that the
Speaker 7: effects of the inflation have been mitigated about the fact
Speaker 7: these countries are just eating shit and instead of raising
Speaker 7: their prices to eat the cost that they've been doing,
Speaker 7: they've been eating parts of their markup, which is like
Speaker 7: basically their pure profit right. They've been eating parts of
Speaker 7: their markup in order to not have the prices raise.
Speaker 7: This is not sustainable. This is especially not sustainable as
Speaker 7: more countries get tariffs and as Trump's ability to pressure
Speaker 7: these companies weakens, as like you know, food prices continue
Speaker 7: to increase and people start getting more pissed at him.
Speaker 7: So this is just the beginning of this. All of
Speaker 7: these tariffs are maximumly set up to make sure that
Speaker 7: we get another run of this supply chain inflation. Our
Speaker 7: friends over at Strange Matter wrote a very long piece
Speaker 7: about this a couple of years. We've talked about the
Speaker 7: show a few times. We're going to link that in
Speaker 7: the description. You should go read it. But that's the
Speaker 7: important thing that we've gotten from from the Bureau Labor
Speaker 7: Satistics data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not really sure how Trump's gonna duck this
Speaker 1: responsibility for much longer. I will say.
Speaker 7: I will say there is genuinely starting to be concerned
Speaker 7: that they're just straight up fudging the BLS statistics. And like,
Speaker 7: I don't know if they're doing that, but like I've
Speaker 7: seen like a bunch of bond people be like are
Speaker 7: they just lying about the unemployment numbers?
Speaker 1: And who knows? Yeah, they would be very hard to
Speaker 1: prove that, right, Like, Yeah, I mean, and I've seen
Speaker 1: how much cash Scrooge has in that vault, so some people,
Speaker 1: the upper class will not be affected as much as
Speaker 1: the working class ducks.
Speaker 3: It's not saying the price of diving boards, for instance,
Speaker 3: could go up the very price sensitive because they need
Speaker 3: those diving boats to dive into that pause of cash.
Speaker 1: I have two more updates that I would like to
Speaker 1: do before we go to add Rake. For one, the
Speaker 1: Trump administration has sued the state of California over Title
Speaker 1: nine violations for having trends athletes. This shows that even
Speaker 1: when you capitulate, like Gavin Newsom has tried to do,
Speaker 1: they will still come after you. You cannot get out
Speaker 1: of this by trying to please the administration. They're still
Speaker 1: going to go after you.
Speaker 3: The entire policy platform is your Facebook uncle wanting to
Speaker 3: earn the Libs.
Speaker 1: So we can see how well Gavin throwing trans people
Speaker 1: under the bus has worked for the state of California
Speaker 1: still getting sued. Lastly, before we pivot to ads, I
Speaker 1: want to update a story that Robert talked about last week.
Speaker 1: A former US Marine Corps reservist was arrested this Tuesday
Speaker 1: after a week long manhunt. He faces charges related to
Speaker 1: an alleged armed ambush on an ice attention facility in
Speaker 1: Prairie Land, Texas during a protest. He is now the
Speaker 1: fourteenth person charged in connection with the incident, and is
Speaker 1: also accused of purchasing four of the guns linked to
Speaker 1: the attack. Now, two other people were also charged after
Speaker 1: allegedly helping the former reservist to escape after the attack.
Speaker 1: Nancy Larson, the acting US attorney, told Fox and Friends
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, quote they were involved in signal chats which
Speaker 1: show connaissance planning, a Google map, and the location of
Speaker 1: nearby police departments. At least one of these two new
Speaker 1: people charged was only charged after cooperating with the investigation.
Speaker 1: In this man's car, police found an air fifteen and
Speaker 1: a receipt for clothing that he admitted to purchasing for
Speaker 1: the former Marine reservist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean this is a story to continue
Speaker 2: to pay attention to. I would remind folks that we
Speaker 2: know what the state is alleged in, you know, based
Speaker 2: on the charging documents. We know what people have been
Speaker 2: saying to the police, but we don't fully know what's
Speaker 2: happened yet. So we'll be continuing to keep an eye
Speaker 2: on this story as it develops. What do we have next, ads, Yeah,
Speaker 2: here's some products.
Speaker 1: Ah, let's close this episode by talking about Nazis.
Speaker 2: Nazis.
Speaker 1: That one doesn't work, Robert, I'm sorry, I want it to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't.
Speaker 1: I've tried.
Speaker 2: I've even tried it before. I've even tried it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we will have to return to stinky Motsk
Speaker 1: once again. But before we do, I first want to
Speaker 1: talk about friend of the pod, Greg Gutfield, who recently
Speaker 1: discussed a strategy on how to minimize the impact of
Speaker 1: the American fascist rights being called Nazis derogatorily. I will
Speaker 1: play a short clip from Fox News.
Speaker 13: This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when
Speaker 13: you call us Nazis. Nazi, this notazee that you know.
Speaker 13: I'm beginning to think they don't like us.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: I've said this before.
Speaker 13: We need to learn from the Blacks, the way they
Speaker 13: were able to remove the power from the end word.
Speaker 4: Nazi.
Speaker 1: Hey, what up, my Nazi?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: What's hanging my NAZIZI? Oh god, you did a hard
Speaker 1: eye there. What does it tell you that? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: GREGI wow, wow, they're all just laughing.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Also quite concerned with that that's pretty disturbing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great.
Speaker 3: He also he gave it one of those just to
Speaker 3: just to really send it. He like, my heart goes
Speaker 3: out to you gesture.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's right, my heart goes out to you. Salute. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I remember, like, you know, five years ago,
Speaker 1: you had you had these al right people talking about
Speaker 1: how you know, actually actually Hitler was was a socialist.
Speaker 1: You know, the Nazis are actually communists. We're not We're
Speaker 1: not Nazis. And now they're just openly trying to normalize
Speaker 1: referring to themselves as Nazis. It seems. It seems a
Speaker 1: notable speaking of Nazis in the in the New Rights God,
Speaker 1: Rock four has got a Department of Defense contract for
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars as a part of its Rock
Speaker 1: for Government program, including the responsibility of handling sensitive classified materials.
Speaker 1: And it happens on the same week that Mecca Hitler.
Speaker 2: Mecha Hitler makes his beautiful debut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty troubling for our strongest allies in the IDF here.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I just the ways that reality could
Speaker 1: could could break out into different timelines right now is
Speaker 1: kind of dizzying, because there's a possibility that mecha Hitler
Speaker 1: starts doing strikes based on anti Semitic Twitter users' recommendations
Speaker 1: directly tied in with government advisory programs.
Speaker 3: I go to say it's not going to went well
Speaker 3: for Turkey, judging by what we saw last week.
Speaker 1: Another possible but weaponization of GROC four's to An announced
Speaker 1: that Grock four is gonna be added to Teslas, So
Speaker 1: mecha Hitler might also be driving a Tesla around. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: I will say.
Speaker 7: I will say the person the most happy about this
Speaker 7: right now is somewhere in the depths of Chinese intelligence.
Speaker 7: There is a colonel who is looking at this announcement
Speaker 7: and is like, I am going all the way to
Speaker 7: the top. My family is never working again in our
Speaker 7: fucking lives. I am going to find so much dumb
Speaker 7: shit that these soldiers are typing into fucking.
Speaker 1: Do O d Grock Like, I am going to learn
Speaker 1: so much. I would be quite nervous right now if
Speaker 1: I was Will Stancil, who.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got Teslas's kind of try to molested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna get it. He's gonna get drones struck.
Speaker 3: Every drone is gonna turn around and try and find
Speaker 3: Will Stanzel wherever they send it.
Speaker 1: Grock is continuing to make rape threats against Will Stancil
Speaker 1: despite the tweaks in the code, and it's still referencing
Speaker 1: the Mecca Hitler incident. So Grok four is a new
Speaker 1: model of Xai's chatbot service. It launched officially last week.
Speaker 1: It was pretty similar to the model of groc used
Speaker 1: in the Mecha Hitler incident, but there's been some small
Speaker 1: tweaks that researchers have noticed. An AI researcher named Jeremy
Speaker 1: Howard at least a video showing how Grock tries to
Speaker 1: answer a query about its stance on the quote Israel
Speaker 1: Palestine conflict. Jeremy found quote. It first searches Twitter for
Speaker 1: what Elon thinks, then it searches the web for Elon's views.
Speaker 1: Finally it adds some non Elon bits at the end.
Speaker 1: Fifty four out of the sixty four citations are about
Speaker 1: Elon unquote.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 1: XAI has confirmed that this was how Grock was operating,
Speaker 1: and has since claimed that it's making adjustments now and
Speaker 1: said that Grok was trying to appear in line with
Speaker 1: the company's head and policy.
Speaker 3: This is amazing because hopefully it does a saying with
Speaker 3: its defense policy, wasn't Elon Musk one of those like
Speaker 3: F thirty five has gone woke?
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 6: You'll have to answer that for yourself, James, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 6: this is this is a piece of law that has
Speaker 6: passed you by for a while there and Musk concern
Speaker 6: of his friends were quoting tweeting about the F thirty
Speaker 6: five quoting, yeah, about F thirty five being woke and
Speaker 6: how we should like return to F.
Speaker 1: Sixteen or I think it was very funny.
Speaker 7: Are we going to talk about the other weird chat bots?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 1: How grog has the Death Note? Mysa? Lisa's like sexpot.
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to talk about it, Miya,
Speaker 1: I will not stop you. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck you're talking? Is this? Jar jar binks again.
Speaker 7: I have two sentences about this, one of which is
Speaker 7: not mine. The first sentence I am going to say
Speaker 7: is that, Yeah, the Twitter now has like a really
Speaker 7: really weird animated girl sex bot thing that's like an.
Speaker 1: AI very clearly inspired by a Death Note character.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So sometimes you just need to say the obvious thing,
Speaker 7: and the person who said the obvious thing is a
Speaker 7: person on Blue Sky called at TVQ talks. They said,
Speaker 7: I keep saying it. The push for AI made so
Speaker 7: much more sense to me once I realized tech bros
Speaker 7: talk to it like a woman who won't talk back,
Speaker 7: and like yeah that they just.
Speaker 1: Oh god, you know. I will say, if it was
Speaker 1: modeled after L instead of MESA, it could serve some use,
Speaker 1: it could be compelling. But because it's MESA, it's just
Speaker 1: completely useless. So Garret, we already have that chatot. That
Speaker 1: chatpot already exists. This has existed for a long time.
Speaker 1: Where is an L death note chatpot?
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 1: Actually, no, you could send it to me. After this.
Speaker 7: There's a whole bunch of character chatpots that's like a
Speaker 7: whole thing.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe not exactly what I'm looking for, but whatever.
Speaker 7: God, Okay, terrible zero out of ten. Let's talk about
Speaker 7: the other Dad contracts.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean yeah, but part this two hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars groc contract was part of a series of AI
Speaker 1: contracts that Anthroppeck and Claude also received. I think Google
Speaker 1: got one. It's part of Trump's initiative to strengthen like
Speaker 1: AI in government, so Grock is not the only one.
Speaker 7: I will also say that, like this is obviously like
Speaker 7: the endgame of all of these companies is trying to
Speaker 7: get their like failing AI firms bailed out by the military,
Speaker 7: but like even two hundred million is not enough to
Speaker 7: like recoup the hideous amounts of money these people are burning,
Speaker 7: So I hope they all fail.
Speaker 1: Raber, Do you have anything to add on on GROC Talk.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think it's funny. He's also trying
Speaker 2: to make AI companions out of groc One is clearly
Speaker 2: a version of his ex Grimes, who is supposed to
Speaker 2: teach you quantum physics.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this is this is this that I
Speaker 1: have sex with you? This is part of the mesa
Speaker 1: MISA one as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's my favorite is the male chat bot,
Speaker 2: which is based off of Christian Gray from Fifty Shades
Speaker 2: of Gray, and also Edward Colin from Twilight, who.
Speaker 1: Did just based off of the guy for fifty Shades Great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just saw that this was the explicitly named as
Speaker 1: the two inspiration. It's so funny. It's so funny. Again,
Speaker 1: if it was l it could be worthwhile, but this
Speaker 1: just is, like is just slop, worthless, no artistic merit
Speaker 1: no anyway.
Speaker 2: That's all I got to add.
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Speaker 7: Wait, okay, late breaking, late breaking news, late breaking news.
Speaker 7: Trump has reportedly broken a deal for Coca Cola to
Speaker 7: use quote real sugarcane in US coke products.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, finally, Wow, this is gonna go down well
Speaker 2: with corn country.
Speaker 7: No, this this genuinely like if he actually goes to
Speaker 7: war with like the American corn lobby, if he's the
Speaker 7: one who does this and like gets the blow up
Speaker 7: from it, I don't know. Like this this genuinely would
Speaker 7: be a seismic restructuring agriculture in the United States.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, yeah, I still use the corn. A load
Speaker 1: of corn goes to feed things that them become feed, right.
Speaker 7: But still like, like we produced so much corn, we
Speaker 7: had to make more corn things like, yeah, every year
Speaker 7: they invent a new thing to do with corn. Disastrous.
Speaker 1: God, I am really gonna miss Red number forty. It
Speaker 1: was my favorite. Whenever I was feeling down, I just
Speaker 1: did a few drops. And it sucks to see an
Speaker 1: old friend and go yeah tragic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also going to be very hard for the
Speaker 3: people who've made that whole identity buying Mexican coke and
Speaker 3: glass bottles. We should pull one out for them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's gonna be a rough night in Bushwick tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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