1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Good morning. It's Thursday, the thirtieth of November here in London. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Day vaq At podcast. I'm Caroline 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Hepcare and. 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm Tom McKenzie. Coming up today. Israel and Hamas agreed 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: to keep their temporary truce in place for one more day. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Henry Kissinger, the former US Secretary of State who defined 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: American foreign policy, has died aged one hundred and. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Musk Sling's expletives, the owner of X has some choice 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: words for advertisers boycotting the platform. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: And Israel and Hamas have agreed to extend their truce 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: for at least another day. The move will allow for 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: the release of more hostages from Gaza. Hamas released ten 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: hostages in exchange for thirty Palestinians held by Israel on Wednesday. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Ahead of the announcement, US Secretary of State Anthony blink 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: And explained what he hopes to achieve during his visit 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: to the region. 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: We'll discuss with Israel Howard can achieve its objective of 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: ensuring that the terrorist attacks of October seventh never happen again, 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: while sustaining and increasing amount of train assistance and minimizing 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: further suffering and casualties among Palestine civilians. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: US Sector of State Anthony Blincoln is currently in Tel 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: Aviv and the West Bank on his third visit since 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: the October the seventh attack. While the SEASFA there continues 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: to hold. There was a shooting attack in Jerusalem. Israeli 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: police say residents of the eastern, mostly Arab part of 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: the city killed three people before themselves being killed. 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: So that on the Middle East. Henry Kissingen has died 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: at the age of one hundred. A child refugee who 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: fled Nazi persecution in his native Germany, he rose to 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: become US Secret of State and defined American foreign policy 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: during the Cold War. China has paid tribute to the 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: man who helped build ties between the two superpowers. Beijing's 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: ambassador to Washington called him a most valued old friend 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: and his death at a tremendous loss. Bloomberg's Ian Marlowe 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: explains how his views helped to shape US. 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: Positions around the world. Asia in the Middle East. Could 38 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: be a polarizing figure, but I think that was in 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: part because he embodied that sort of American power. He 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: was one of the people at the center of American 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: power in over a long period of time when the 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: US role in the world was also changing. And it 43 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: is to some extent and the end of an era. 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: And I think very few people get close to one 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: hundred and are still sort of active in civil society. 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: Ian Marlow there on Kissinger's influence on US foreign policy. 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Kissinger earned the wrath of many though for supporting massive 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: bombing campaigns in Vietnam and Cambodia. He was awarded the 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize in nineteen seventy three. 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: Now, traders are fully pricing in an ECB rate cut 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: in April for the first time. The shift in investor 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: sentiment comes after new data showed growth shrinking and inflation 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: cooling in France. GDP in the country dropped by zero 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: point one percent in the third quarter, while price rise 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: is eased to three point eight percent in November. Inflation 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: in France is eased more slowly than elsewhere in Europe, 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: as the government partially lifted caps on electricity costs. 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Now, the Fed's latest Beige Book showed economic activity slowed 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: in recent weeks as US consumers pulled back on discretionary spending. 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Today's US data may also add to the soft landing narrative, 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: with core PC inflation expected to have slowed in October 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: to three and a half percent. A Land of FED 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: president Raphael Bossik said that he's growing increasingly confident that 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: inflation is firmly on a downward path. On the other hand, 65 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Richmond FED chief Thomas Barkin told CNBC he isn't yet convinced. 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 5: I think you want to have the option of doing 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: more on rates, and I guess the bigger point is 68 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: there's no precision that anyone can point to at exactly 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 5: what is the level of rates that exactly handles inflation 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: and exactly the way you want to handle it. And 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: so you're constantly trying to adjust on the fly as 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 5: you learn more about the economy, as you learn more 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: about the impact of demand on inflation. And that's what 74 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: we're learning. 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: As that was Thomas Barkin there speaking to CNBC. Traders 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: already pricing in policy easy for twenty twenty four with 77 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: the first cut and now expected to come in May. 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Now to China, where the manufacturing and services sectors slipped 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: in November, adding pressure for more government stimulus. Spoombergs Brian Curtis, 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: How's the latest from Hong Kong. 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 6: The official manufacturing PMI fell to forty nine point four, 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 6: the second consecutive month of contraction. It was weaker than 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 6: the estimate of forty nine point eight. Non manufacturing activity 84 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 6: unexpectedly eased to fifty point two, barely into expansion. China's 85 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 6: economy is still on track to go around five percent 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty three. The questions remain about momentum for 87 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 6: next year. Manufacturing, services and the property sector all seemed troubled. 88 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 6: Falling home sales have curbed demand for just about everything 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: in Hong Kong. Brian Curtis, Bloomberg Radio. 90 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, one of China's largest investment banks has warned its 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: analysts to avoid criticizing the economy and showing off their 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: lavish lifestyles. According to an internal memo seen by Bloomberg, 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: Alys at China International Capital can no longer share negative 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: macro or market commentary in public or private. The notes 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: also advised employees to avoid wearing luxury brands or revealing 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: their salaries. The guidance highlights that growing self scrutiny at 97 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: Chinese financial institutions after authorities called out bankers quote hedonistic 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: lifestyles earlier this year. 99 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: Now, Elon Musk says an advertising boycott against his social 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: media platform X may kill the company. Speaking at New 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: York Times as deal Book conference, the billionaire said if 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: advertisers leave the company, the failure of the business would 103 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: be their fault, and he swore at them. Musk's outburst 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: comes after the endorsed and anti semitic posts, something he 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: called the quote worst and dumbest I've ever done. Bloomberg's 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: Anibal Drulo says Musk is under fire for his actions, so. 107 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 7: It's really hitting X. It's hitting Elon Musk and that 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 7: at anger in his issues with advertisers, copping a lot 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 7: of heat there because, as I said, he's been speaking 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 7: at this conference, a lot of expletives which I won't 111 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 7: take the time to issue or tell you here, but 112 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: something a lot of colorful language coming. 113 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: Out of that. 114 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: Our reporter Annabel Drula's there outlining Elon Musk's frustration at 115 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: the conference. He also addressed his market power during the address, 116 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: saying his influence is not due to anti competitive actions, 117 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: but because his companies have quote executed well, let's get 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: back to the Middle East and what is an unfolding 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: still between Israel and hamas the truce between the two 120 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: sides in place since Friday has been extended for at 121 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: least another day. It comes as the US Secretary of 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: State Anthony Blincoln is in Israel today on his latest 123 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: visit to the region since the October the seventh attack. 124 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: Let's speak then crossover to Gallett Einstein in Tel Aviv 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 2: Galitt that the extension the truths coming at the last minute. 126 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: How did it come about? 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 8: Yes, we are seeing an extension of the truth, some 128 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 8: quite a short one this time. It will be in 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 8: effect until seven am tomorrow morning, Israel time, so that 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 8: means less than twenty four hours. It has been quite 131 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 8: a dramatic night in that sense from US and Israel 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 8: did quite a bit of back and forward on the 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 8: list of hostages Israeli hostages that will be released today, 134 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 8: and they finally reached an agreement just before seven am 135 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 8: Israel time today, just twenty minutes before the ceasefire was 136 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 8: supposed to actually stop in Israel said it would resume 137 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 8: fighting if the list is not acceptable. 138 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Okay, are there hopes and for any further extension? 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 8: So I have to say that this stage hopes are 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 8: getting slimmer, just to get a little bit into the 141 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 8: numbers so we can understand why I'm saying that. So 142 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 8: on paper, there are twenty five more Israeli hostages that 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 8: could be released as part of the category of Israeli 144 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 8: women and children that was agreed upon, So that gives 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 8: us a potential of two maybe three more days of truth, 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 8: including today, under the mechanism that says every ten Israeli 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 8: hostage is being released equals to one more day of truth. 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 8: So these are crucial hours. We don't know how many 149 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 8: of these potential hostages are still alive and how many 150 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 8: hamas would be willing to release, so it remains to 151 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 8: be seen. And this is a time that we are 152 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 8: seeing developments happen by the hour, and we do not 153 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 8: know yet where this is going. In this context, it 154 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 8: is worthwhile mentioning that the US Secretary of State Anthony B. 155 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 8: Lincoln is in Israel today for a third visit since 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 8: October seven attacks, and he is addressing this truth saying 157 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 8: it is producing results in terms of both the return 158 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 8: of hostages and the delivery of humanitarian aid two Gaza, 159 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 8: and he says that the US hopes that it can continue. 160 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 8: But like I said, at this point, it seems like 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 8: no more than maybe one or two more days at 162 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 8: the most after today. 163 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: So maybe just a further one or two days is 164 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: your analysis you'll take. At this point, you mentioned Anthony 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: Blincoln in the region. What I mean part of his goal, 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: as you say, is to extend this truth. How receptive 167 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: is the Israeli government to overtures from the US at 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: this point? The signals from President Biden and others within 169 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: the administration is clearly that you would like to see 170 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: this extended beyond those ones two days. 171 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 8: Right, So it is quite quite complex. But to try 172 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 8: and put things in order, I will make a few points. 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 8: First of all, Israel and all Israel officials and including 174 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 8: Prime Minister Benjamin Ataniow have made clear that once this 175 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 8: truth that is now in effect is finished, Israel really 176 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 8: resumed fighting. Now there are talks about a bigger deal 177 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 8: that would involve of an extended truth and the release 178 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 8: of more hostages, Israeli hostages from more categories like men 179 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 8: and soldiers that have not been released so far. Israel 180 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 8: is now addressing these reports as rumors, as something that 181 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 8: will not even be negotiated until all women and children 182 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 8: are home. So and also I have to say that 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 8: it's hard to believe that Israel's government and especially Prime 184 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 8: Minister Nataniao, will have the public or political support to 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 8: back down from the goal he has set to destroy Hamas. 186 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 8: So when you put all of these things together, it 187 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 8: looks like Israel is looking to resume fighting. And it 188 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 8: also looks like the US is not telling Israel don't 189 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 8: go back to fighting. It is telling Israel, maybe you 190 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 8: should keep concentrating on the north of Gaza because the 191 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 8: south is very crowded with population now, and if you 192 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 8: do go to the south, you have to be very 193 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 8: careful and very accurate with what you do in order 194 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 8: to avoid civil in casualties like we've seen until now. 195 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Just last Agallet, there is as you say, Anthony Breckan 196 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: is visiting. He'll also be visiting the West Bank there. 197 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: We mentioned that this this start of the program, that 198 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: there was one incident of a shooting attack in Jerusalem. 199 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: There is obviously a lot of concern about whether you 200 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: know about the tensions that are building in the West Bank. 201 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that? 202 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, So, so we have seen an attack come this morning, 203 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 8: shooting attack come by two Palestinians on a bus bus 204 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 8: station and the entrance to Jerusalem. So three Israelis were 205 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 8: killed in this attack and six more were wounded. And this, 206 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 8: as you say, underlying the tensions that you know, Well, 207 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 8: everyone is focused on Gaza and on Israel's northern border, 208 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 8: which has also been quiet over the last time several 209 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 8: days because of the ceasefire. So well, everyone is focused 210 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 8: on that. There are tensions building in the West Bank 211 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 8: is Jerusalem that we saw the consequences of this morning, 212 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 8: so all around. You know, tensions can exist and can 213 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 8: erupt at any given moment, and everyone is also focusing 214 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 8: on that at this time. 215 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: Okay, gallet Elstein on the latest from Tel Aviv. Thank 216 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: you very much. 217 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Indeed, now let's move on this morning and to talk 218 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: about the former USC of State Henry Kissinger, who has 219 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: died at his home in Connecticut. He was one hundred 220 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: in his long career, a hugely influential figure. Ploomberg's Nathan 221 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: Hager has been looking back on his life. 222 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 9: Henry Albert Kissinger was born in nineteen twenty three in 223 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 9: the German state of Bavaria. The oldest son of a 224 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 9: Jewish school teacher. Kissinger was known as Heinz until he 225 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 9: moved with his family to the United States in nineteen 226 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 9: thirty eight to escape Nazi persecution. At the age of nineteen, 227 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 9: while excelling at City College of New York, Kissinger was 228 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 9: drafted in the Army. He served as an interpreter in 229 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 9: the country of his birth during World War II, and 230 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 9: after the war he helped to round up Gestapo officers 231 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 9: as a member of the nine hundred and seventieth Counterintelligence Corps. 232 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 9: In an interview with Bloomberg's editor in chief John Mickelthwaite, 233 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 9: Kissinger said he saw the first hand impact of authoritarianism 234 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 9: and totalitarianism in his youth. 235 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 10: It was an experience which it's so elemental that it 236 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 10: becomes part of you. 237 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 9: Kissinger brought that experience back with him to the United States. 238 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 9: He resumed his studies at Harvard University. His doctoral dissertation 239 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 9: there focused on balances of power in nineteenth century Europe. 240 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 9: As a tenured professor at Harvard, Kissinger honed the conservative 241 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 9: real politic worldview that would dominate his thinking on foreign 242 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 9: policy for more than a half century. Kissinger also cultivated 243 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 9: relationships with policymakers in Washington that led him to the 244 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 9: White House in nineteen sixty nine as National Security Advisor 245 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 9: to President Richard Nixon. Kissinger's secret trips to China in 246 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 9: nineteen seventy one paved the way for arguably the greatest 247 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 9: foreign policy achievement of the Nixon presidency, his own visit 248 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 9: the following year. 249 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 11: Knowing of President Nixon's express desire to visit the People's 250 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 11: Republic of China, Premier Cho and lie On behalf of 251 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 11: the government of the People's Republic of China, has extended 252 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 11: an invitation to President Nixon to visit China. 253 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 9: The opening of China and an anti ballistic missile treaty 254 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 9: hammered out with the Soviet Union achieved what would become 255 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 9: known as Kissinger's triangular diplomacy, but his penchate for secrecy 256 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 9: would lead to controversy. Kissinger was the first person to 257 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 9: serve as both National Security Advisor and Secretary of State 258 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 9: at the same time. That allowed Nixon to run foreign 259 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 9: policy more or less directly from the White House. The 260 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 9: President summed up his attitude in a taped conversation with 261 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 9: Kissinger about the Christmas Day bombing in Vietnam in nineteen 262 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 9: seventy two. Kissinger fed into that paranoia about enemies in 263 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 9: the press by ordering wiretaps of reporters and White House 264 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 9: aids looking for leaks. That expanded use of surveillance led 265 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 9: to Nixon's resignation under the weight of Watergate, but the 266 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,359 Speaker 9: weight of one major foreign policy decision would cloud Kissinger's 267 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 9: legacy for the rest of his long life, the Secret 268 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 9: War in Cambodia. Kissinger orchestrated the operation that dropped more 269 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 9: than one hundred thousand tons of bombs on North Vietnamese 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 9: positions in the country. It helped lead to the rise 271 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 9: of a genocidal Khmer Rouge regime after the war, but 272 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 9: Kissinger would never stop defending his conduct in Vietnam, even 273 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 9: against critics who labeled him a war criminal. 274 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 10: Would say, a better way. At any one point, we 275 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 10: didn't think so. I still don't think so. But I'm 276 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 10: open to that argument. But what is meant by better? 277 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 9: That pragmatic approach to the world as it is, rather 278 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 9: than how policymakers might like it to be would inform 279 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 9: Kissinger's view long after he left public office and sought 280 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 9: to wield inflow as a private citizen. At the age 281 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 9: of eighty eight, Kissinger wrote the book On China, about 282 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 9: the country he helped to bring back to the world stage. 283 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 9: In a twenty twenty interview at the Bloomberg New Economy Forum, 284 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 9: Kissinger warned of the risks of confrontation between the world's 285 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 9: two biggest economies. 286 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 12: Let's say it some basis for some cooperative action. It 287 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 12: was Bill fld Hindu a catastrophe comfortable du will do one. 288 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 9: Henry Kissinger worked to head off that catastrophe. After he 289 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 9: reached his one hundredth birthday as President, Biden sent cabinet 290 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 9: secretaries to Beijing in twenty twenty three to stabilize relations. 291 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 9: The one US diplomat that Chinese President Shi Jinping would 292 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 9: meet face to face was the man he called an 293 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 9: old friend to China, former Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger. 294 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 9: I'm Nathan Hager Bloomberg Radio. 295 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: So looking back at the life of Henry Kissinger and 296 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: perhaps one of the biggest figures in geopolitics of the 297 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: twentieth century, wielding influence over many decades. Even though he 298 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: had left the sort of formal arena, still visiting China 299 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: and giving interviews right up until his death close to 300 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: one hundred Yeah. 301 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: And as Nathan was pointing out, controversial in some of 302 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: his policy actions, of course, and the impacts of that 303 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: still being felt for many in Cambodia. But when it 304 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: comes to the question of China, this revered place in 305 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: terms of the linkages between the US and China and 306 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: seen as a trusted vehicle in which to communicate China's 307 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: concerns and equally for the US to communicate with China, 308 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: and his book on China is still seen as essential 309 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: reading for thinking about modern day China and the politics 310 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: of that country.