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Speaker 1: Love The.

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Speaker 2: Game presents conversations with the legends, best of show. And

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Speaker 2: now here's LeVar Arrington.

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Speaker 3: And welcome everybody back to another exciting edition of up On.

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Speaker 3: Game presents the conversations with the legends, and we do.

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Speaker 1: Continue the party. The party is continuing on.

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Speaker 3: We got my man, big play, Tory Hope in the building.

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Speaker 1: What it do?

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Speaker 3: What up?

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Speaker 1: What up?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: How are you bro?

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, thanks for coming on. Obviously, Tory Holt is

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Speaker 3: a tremendous receiver. He played at NC State play for

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Speaker 3: the Greatest Show on Turf with the Saint Louis Rams.

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Speaker 3: Should be in the Hall of Fame. It's taken a

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Speaker 3: little while, too too long, but let's hope we get

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Speaker 3: there soon and get that done knocked out. As as

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Speaker 3: we talk, people will see you use your hands, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you never dropped the ball, that's right. And we're

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Speaker 3: gonna touch into the We're gonna touch into this because

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Speaker 3: I got mine, right, I got I got the pinky, right,

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Speaker 3: I got it. You know I got both of them

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Speaker 3: that they out of there, right, give me the best

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Speaker 3: story connected to how your fingers got to where they are, right?

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Speaker 3: Is it just pure? Just the way you was grabbing

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Speaker 3: and squeezing the ball. Is there saying there was you

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Speaker 3: stubbing it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Were you spraining them? How did you get to.

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Speaker 3: The point of where yours is turning like doing tricks

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Speaker 3: the way that they're doing on your hands?

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Speaker 2: Player, right, if you go back, if I go back

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Speaker 2: to the history of my hand, it started in college.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm probably dislocated every one of my fingers

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Speaker 2: when I was in college at least twice two a

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Speaker 2: few times. The reputation my health report when I was

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Speaker 2: coming out of school of ar You know how string

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Speaker 2: it is that health report is, Yes, was hey, this

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Speaker 2: guy has bad fingers, And folks were not understanding how

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Speaker 2: I was catching the football because of my my hands

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Speaker 2: were so uh just they just susceptible. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's that's one of the knocks. That was one of

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Speaker 2: the knocks on my.

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Speaker 1: On my health history.

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Speaker 2: But what I used to do to combat that is

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Speaker 2: I used to use the puddy a lot, and I

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Speaker 2: still have my puddy now that I use. I did

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Speaker 2: fingertip push up to a lot. I caught the ball

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Speaker 2: a lot to get my hands used to the velocity

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Speaker 2: Mike Vick. You gotta have some strong ass hands. So

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Speaker 2: so I did all those things to try to strengthen

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Speaker 2: my hands so I could so I could sustain and play.

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Speaker 2: But how it started this hand? Here man two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five was playing Pittsburgh still in five two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five or six, remember being a Thursday night game,

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Speaker 2: rolled up in the Saint Louis. I mean it was

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Speaker 2: eight twenty nine toss or whatever something, twenty nine toss.

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Speaker 2: And here I am on the perimeter blocking start block,

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Speaker 2: and I got him to Lebar. I got him right

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Speaker 2: of how I have him positioning block, and he went

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Speaker 2: to get away to shun Townsend, went to get away,

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Speaker 2: and my finger got caught in the got called in

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Speaker 2: back up, went back out and played. So I just

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Speaker 2: kept playing with the injury, and then over time and

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Speaker 2: practice will pop out, popping back in, and then the

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Speaker 2: ligaments just started to chat out, stretching out. So now

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Speaker 2: I have no ligaments and now it's a natural curve

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Speaker 1: Something I have to deal with.

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Speaker 2: It's still functional, right right, It's just it's just stretched out.

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Speaker 2: It's just stretched out. It just dressed out from the game.

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Speaker 3: If you had to have that finger ten times out

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Speaker 2: No, I'm taking them taking the figure. That's what people say.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the finger, yo. That's that was the one

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Speaker 2: that was the that was kind of you know, the

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Speaker 2: you know cats play yo. You know we watched Jack

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Speaker 2: young Blood and then play with broke legs, right and

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Speaker 2: lotting them cut fingers off? What indeed, that's what you

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Speaker 2: you know you play the game. We tough boys, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: apples you know.

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Speaker 1: I want all right?

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Speaker 3: So so I need people to understand that greatness isn't

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Speaker 3: in a video game, right, correct, Greatness isn't. I woke up.

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Speaker 3: I saw it on the video game. I saw it

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Speaker 3: be great because some strange reason, these young boys think

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Speaker 3: that success is in their imagination, and it's not with

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Speaker 3: the action of what's in their imagination anymore. How can

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Speaker 3: you I recall my imagination taking me to different places,

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Speaker 3: but it was from a humble beginning pulling tobacco, I mean,

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Speaker 3: or like you're saying, proud moment from that to where

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Speaker 2: That I'm getting out of this town. I'm getting out

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Speaker 2: of this thing I'm getting I'm going for my dreams.

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Speaker 2: This is just my way to that. And pulling tobacco

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Speaker 2: It humbled me because I was working for someone else

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Speaker 2: I just had to go through it. Having thee with worth,

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Speaker 2: all the mindset at a young age to endure that

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Speaker 2: the humility to go and pull someone else's tobacco. It's

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Speaker 2: what I'm most proud of, man. And for me to

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Speaker 2: He and my cousin and I. But I got to

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Speaker 1: Is that your legacy? What's what story holds legacy? What?

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Speaker 3: What do you want that today they burying you and

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Speaker 3: and catch is gonna come talk about you?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: What will have you smiling to hear them say that.

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Speaker 2: That he was, that he was consistent, that he was passionate,

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Speaker 2: that he was versatile, and a lot of things. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't just sports. He was versatile in a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Cared about his friends, cared about his family, and and

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Speaker 2: and and love athletics, love athletic all kinds of athletics, football, basketball, golf, soccer, hockey,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. That's and then lastly, obviously,

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Speaker 2: what I've been able to create, my brother and I

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Speaker 2: have been able to create off of the football field.

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Speaker 2: Going from the playing fields and having success, great deal

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Speaker 2: with success, potential, hall of fame success, get it two.

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Speaker 2: Transitioning off the football field and running a business. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and business that had had success over over ten years.

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Speaker 2: That's and then my wife and my kids. Man, that's

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Speaker 2: that's my legacy. LeVar Dough Dough, Yes, sir, you got

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Speaker 2: anything else that? Yeah. If you want to learn more

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Speaker 2: about Whole Brothers Foundation, go to Whole Breath. Go to

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Speaker 2: Hope Brothers Foundation dot org. If you want to learn

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Speaker 2: more about Hope Brothers Foundation. We support young kids with

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Speaker 2: a parent of Guardian's balance cancer. Go to Hope Brothers

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Speaker 2: Foundation dot org. We are welcoming donations and we're doing

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Speaker 2: positive things with our young youth.

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Speaker 3: I'm LeVar Arrington and this week's guess, Well, it's pretty

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Speaker 3: interesting one because.

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Speaker 1: Well we work together. The best guests of all. We

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Speaker 1: have TJ.

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Speaker 3: Hitchman's atta from Moregan State and raised in California on

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Speaker 3: the playgrounds is where he spent most of his days

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Speaker 3: chilling out, max and relax and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then one day, oh no, that's different. That was

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Speaker 1: the fresh principal there. But this is t J.

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Speaker 3: Huschmansauta played for the Cincinnati Bengals pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: What's up, bro? What's going on? Man? Man? What's happen?

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Speaker 4: Man? I'm glad you asked me to be on my pleasure, brother,

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Speaker 4: my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: When talking about those things that you do and and

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Speaker 3: tying that into okay, you do media, which means you

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Speaker 3: understand what what Having a message and having an idea

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Speaker 3: of what it is that you represent play a major

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Speaker 3: play in the league, do you do you ever talk

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Speaker 3: you have a moment in your life where you can

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Speaker 3: draw from that says you know what I've been through this.

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Speaker 3: The reason why I'm so passionate about the things that

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Speaker 3: in your life.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the guys that I work with,

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Speaker 4: we talk about moments often, and what I tell them

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Speaker 4: is this, and you were guilty of it, as was I.

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Speaker 4: We take moments for granted when you're in the moment

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Speaker 4: I tell a man like y'all need to cherish this.

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Speaker 4: Don't be such in a rush to get to the

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Speaker 4: and it's over Cherish it, enjoy it. But for me,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I had one moment, LeVar, it's

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Speaker 4: I wasn't a guy that played sports growing up like

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Speaker 4: And luckily enough, I didn't get in it deep enough

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Speaker 3: And did you have a moment during that time that

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Speaker 4: There's some things that like they shot at me, and

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Speaker 1: Fuck.

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Speaker 4: I remember watching you and Penn State in the all

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Speaker 4: would say, since you're at least fifteen, right, maybe younger

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Speaker 4: And this is what me and you talk about. I

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Speaker 4: best right now, LeVar, you can be the worst right

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Speaker 4: now me and you can still make it. It's up

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Speaker 1: It's up to you. So you don't think that success

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Speaker 4: No, no, Like I'll be honest with you, man, Once

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Speaker 4: doing that. I'm not doing that, no man. People will

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Speaker 4: Like we work out, I'm not letting you outwork me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let you outwork me. And to think

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Speaker 4: Hell knows, success is not by action. That you gotta

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Speaker 3: that you're mentoring and that you're training and you're preparing,

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Speaker 3: do you feel like they can grasp the concepts that

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Speaker 3: you put in front of them. Because today's young cats

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Speaker 3: are they a little different? Man? Like, there's still some

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Speaker 3: dogs out there, and there's still some cats that have

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Speaker 3: gone through some things, but largely in part, this is

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Speaker 3: a very different type of generation of young guys. So

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Speaker 3: how do you how do you approach these conversations? Cause

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Speaker 3: can they even relate to what you've gone through?

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Speaker 4: A lot of them, I don't even tell them what

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Speaker 4: I've gone through unless they ask me. I don't bring

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Speaker 4: it up. Some will look my story up and tell

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Speaker 4: me like, oh, man, I didn't know you graduated from

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Speaker 4: You didn't graduate from high school?

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Speaker 1: Man, how'd you make it? And so then we start

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Speaker 1: to talk.

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Speaker 4: But from the outset, I get to know them, and

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Speaker 4: you build a trust, and I just tell them, like,

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Speaker 4: everybody can play football, man, like you not the only

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Speaker 4: one that everybody can play? What's going to separate you?

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Speaker 4: What makes you any different than anybody else that wants

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Speaker 4: to play football? You may be slightly more talented, but

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Speaker 4: are you as tough? Are you as smart or smarter?

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Speaker 4: Are you willing to do things that others aren't willing

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Speaker 4: to do? And once they start to trust you. They

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Speaker 4: believe what you're telling them. In life, I started at

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Speaker 4: the bottom, made my way up. In the league, I

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Speaker 4: started at the bottom, I made my way up. In college,

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Speaker 4: I started at the bottom. I made my way up.

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Speaker 4: So I've been at the bottom and I've shown time

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Speaker 4: and time again that I can.

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Speaker 1: Work my way up.

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Speaker 4: And so once they begin to trust me, they listening

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Speaker 4: to what I told The biggest ain't no punks like

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Speaker 4: we not gonna be a punk. We ain't gonna be

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Speaker 4: a bully, but we won't be a punk. And to me,

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Speaker 4: that's the biggest kid sports. You're getting that locker room,

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Speaker 4: you twenty one shit, you gotta dudes thirty five. They

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Speaker 4: gonna try to punk you the first day, and you

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Speaker 4: show them now, ain't no bitching me, Bro,