1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Center. Nice to be with you today. Let's just start 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: so we know if either of us are going to 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: get sued. This is maybe the first I've ever wanted 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: to be sued. I think it'd be hysterical to get 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: sued by Hunter Biden. But unfortunately, I never took a 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: piece of that laptop with me anywhere. No one gave 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: it to me. Actually someone tried to, and I said 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: I didn't want it. I've kind of regretting that. Now, 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: do you do you have the copy of the hard drive? 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: I do not. I do not have Hunter's laptop. I've 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: never seen it. I have seen some of the images 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: on it that have been put on on Twitter and 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: on the internet, but but but always secondhand, not first. 14 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: So I don't need to pass you a dollar to 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: be my official lawyer for this one. I'm in the clear. Well, 16 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: I didn't say whether you. You just asked to be sued. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean, don't blame anyone if they follow with your requests. 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: That's very true. So Hunter comes out, the media goes nuts. 19 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: They say they love the fact that he's playing offense. 20 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: I just do want to go back to the Hunter 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Biden who said he wasn't sure it was his laptop 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: back in the day when he did that big sit 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: down interview. Take a look, was that your laptop for real? 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, but you don't know, yes 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: or no? If the laptop, I don't know, But now 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: he does know, and he's gonna sue everybody, and he's 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: going on offense. He sent a series of letters, yeah, 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: including he sent a fourteen page letter to the Department 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: of Justice addressed to the Assistant Attorney General for National Security, 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and he's asking the Department of Justice to prosecute um 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: everyone who had access to the laptop. And so it says, 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: for example, John Paul Maciaac, and it says, mister Maciaac 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: is admitted to gaining access to our client's personal computer 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: data without mister Biden's consent. Therefore, prosecute him. So he 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: wants the laptop repairman prosecuted. And then he also wants 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: he says he shared it with third party, So he 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: wants Steve Bannon prosecuted. He wants Rudy Giuliani prosecuted. Now 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that are interesting. It's 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: a whole list of people that he wants, please begin 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: criminal and this is from a very high priced lawyer. 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: This is a lawyer who charges probably a couple of 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars an hour to write this letter. Several points 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: worth noting. Number one, this is the son of the 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: president writing a letter to an individual appointed by the president, 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the Assistant Attorney General for National Security, who reports to 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the Deputy Attorney General appointed by President Biden, who reports 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: to the Attorney General appointed by President Biden. So this 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: is the president's son saying, hey, everyone who got their 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: jobs from my dad, I'm asking you, through a high 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: priced lawyer, please bring these criminal cases. Now. I got 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: to say, if you're dealing with accusations of partisan bias 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: at DJ and a political double standard between Democrats and Republicans, 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: it may not be the best idea in the world 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: to start publicly calling for a political prosecution of the 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: people that are your partisan enemies. That's point number one. 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Point number two, as you noted, the letter explicitly admits 57 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: finally that this is Hunter's laptop, except then they walked 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: it back. So after they sent the letter and everyone said, well, 59 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: wait a second, you just admitted it was his laptop, 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: they put out a statement his lawyer that says these 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: letters do not confirm mac Isaac's or other versions of 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: a so called laptop. They address their conduct of seeking, manipulating, 63 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: dissemmining what they allege to be mister Biden's personal data 64 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: wherever they have claimed to god, I have gotten it. 65 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: So they've gone back to Hunter's answer, Oh, I don't know. 66 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's real, except for the fact 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: that they wrote a whole series of letters all predicated 68 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: on the claim you harmed my client by handing his 69 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: laptop over well, and everybody in the media was covering 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: this as okay, he's admitting it's his laptop. But then 71 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: they also went back to this idea. They wanted you 72 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: to feel sorry for him because he's a kid of 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: the present. Leave malone, he's a drug addict, leave him alone. 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: And look, I have the same mentality that kids of 75 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: politicians should be off limits. But this is a fifty 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: four year old man. This is someone who is trading 77 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: off his father's name, who wouldn't have a business without 78 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: his father's name. I don't think you can go there. 79 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: And I want to play one of the clips the 80 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: media again going back out there today and telling everybody 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: feel sorry for Hunter Biden, be nice to Hunter Biden. 82 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Leave Hunter Biden alone. Now, before I do that, I 83 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: want to tell you about our good friends over at 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: Patriot Mobile. 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Let's let's play this for everybody that's watching. 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: This is MSNBC again saying feel sorry for Hunter Biden. 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: He should be off limits because he's a kid of 102 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the president. I don't think if you're going to buy 103 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: the bs, but take a look how they spend this. 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: The political thing is is more opaque to me, and 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is of singular obsessive, I mean than the 106 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: big lie about losing in twenty twenty. I don't know 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: if there's anything more obsessive for Trump helped me understand. 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that if people are being honest, 109 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: not many people aren't touched by or not many people 110 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: don't have some window into the disease of addiction, which 111 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: has afflicted Hunter Biden at various points in his life. 112 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Most people understand the president's kids are not They're not 113 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: a president. They haven't stepped into the arena. You know. Look, 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: this is actually typical of the talking points that are 115 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: being used to defend Joe Biden and Nicole Wallace, the 116 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: host there. She used to be the communications director at 117 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: a white House, in the George W. Bush White House. Yeah, 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: and now Nicole Wallace, whatever she used to believe is 119 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: gone is no longer operative. She went to MSNBC, they 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: pay her paycheck, and now she is a hard left 121 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: flak every day. And what's interesting is what she's doing there. 122 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: She's opera rating right there as Joe Biden's communications director. 123 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: Those are their talking points. And we've talked about this 124 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: on this podcast quite a bit that the issue is 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: not Hunter Biden's addiction. I agree, addiction is a terrible disease. 126 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: She's rice right. Most people, most families have loved ones 127 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: who have wrestled with the demons of addiction. If that 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: was all that was going on, this would not be 129 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: a matter of publican concern. And I'll say also, I 130 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: very strongly agree with the principle that kids are off limits. 131 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is not a kid. He's a grown man. 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: If he were a child, this would be very different. 133 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: But he is not a child. But the key point, 134 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: when you are making the defense feel sorry for Hunter 135 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Biden because of addiction, you are trying to shift the topic. 136 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: The reason this matters is because of Joe's potential corruption. 137 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden for years made a living, made millions of dollars. 138 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: This wasn't a small, little little thing. This was an 139 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: ongoing operation selling access to Daddy made millions of dollars 140 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: from very shady characters, from Ukrainian oligarchs and the Communist 141 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Chinese government, not to mention the Russians too. And the 142 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: reason this is significant is it implicates Joe Biden in 143 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: that corruption. It's the connections between the two. We've talked 144 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: about the tell. What is the tell? If you're trying 145 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: to be a political flack, you want to draw a 146 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: line and separate Hunter and Joe. If you're following the facts, 147 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: you want to look at the connections between Hunter and Joe. 148 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: She's being a flack right there. She's saying, it's all 149 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: about Hunter and his addiction. Leave him alone. She says, 150 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't even understand why anyone's concerned about this. She 151 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: does understand, that's why she's doing the whole segment on it. 152 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: And she even said earlier in that same conversation, she said, well, 153 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing on this laptop that is incriminating to the president. 154 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: That may be one of the most absurd statements. We 155 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: have him talking about the money. We have voicemails, we 156 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: talk about the big guy. We have flights, we have 157 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: conversations in Mexico, we have conversations in China. We have 158 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: billions of dollars in loans, we have millions of dollars 159 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: to defend the people who are being actually charged with 160 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: crimes in America from China that was doing business with 161 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: We have conversations between the Russian oligarch and the wife 162 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: of the Moscow mayor, who's tight with Vladimir Putin. We 163 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: have conversations, and we've seen this come out the straw. 164 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: You don't have the laptop, Yeah, I don't. I don't 165 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: have the laptop. I just read a lot about it. 166 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: But even you look at Barisma, we now know a 167 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: lot more about that timeline and this document and this 168 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: email that had these twenty two points in it of 169 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: everything about what was going to happen in Ukraine. Many 170 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: people believe it could be tied, as you and I 171 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: talked about last podcast, to classified docu. By the way, 172 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: did you see this The Washington Post, Glenn Kessler, their 173 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: fact checker, fact checked us, and they gave us three pinocchios. 174 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: Why because they said we could not prove that Hunter 175 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Biden's email about Ukraine, the twenty two point email that 176 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: we walked through in the earlier pod, we couldn't prove 177 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: it came from a vice presidential briefing or classified materials. Now, 178 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: mind you, we didn't assert that it came from classified materials. 179 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: We said, it has a level of scholarship and air 180 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: udition that is markedly atypical from anything else. Hunter Biden wrote, 181 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: It reads in the same style, with the same level 182 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: of analysis one typically sees in these briefings. And I said, 183 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: from having read a great many of these briefings that 184 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: much of this could easily have been classified. All of 185 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: those are true. Glenn Kessler said, well, where the Washington 186 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: postamt And it is our job to be the Press 187 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: secretary of the White House. So because you asked, and 188 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I actually laid out a way to test it, I said, 189 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: how do you find this out? Well? Joe Biden's briefings 190 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: from this week, the week that Hunter Biden was writing 191 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: the email, the week before he was Joe Biden was 192 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: going to Ukraine, two weeks before his son got the 193 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: big job eighty thousand hours a month from Barisma. So 194 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: it's it's a limited time. There are briefings. They are 195 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: in the National Archives, at least they should be. They 196 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: may be in the Corvette. I don't know. But what 197 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: we called for on this podcast was for the Special 198 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Council to pull those briefings and compare them to Hunter 199 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Biden's email. I can't do that. I don't have those briefings. 200 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: By the way, the Washington Post can't do that. They 201 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: don't have those, So they're three pinocchios. I'll tell you this, Ben, 202 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: if it ends up being proven that they did come 203 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: from those briefings, I look forward to the Washington Post 204 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: formal retraction, which they won't do. Yes, because these people 205 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: kept the pullets or for reporting on the bogus Russian 206 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: corruption story, and they happily display their pullets, are saying, look, 207 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: we spread misinformation as well as the Yes. You look 208 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: at this White House now, and it does seem that 209 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: they are at least starting to lose some of the 210 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: media because either they's self preservation for them because they 211 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: don't want to keep looking like total morons, or they're 212 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: mad at the White House for just misleading them and 213 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: lying to them. As they scream they're being transparent when 214 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: there's a new raid or new documents found every other 215 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: day CBS News and you gotta listen carefully here they're 216 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: covering this, They're going to the beach house, and Gail 217 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: King kind of just knocks them off the bus a 218 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: little bit here, is like, hey, let's not let them 219 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: keep getting away with claiming they're transparent. Here it is, 220 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: they were very public. When the FBI searched the Wilmington home, 221 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: his private residence in Delaware. That happened on January twentieth. 222 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: The search we're talking about that we learned about from 223 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: two sources. That happened back in November, and now we're 224 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: just learning about it right now. And in terms of 225 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: the timeline, early on November second was when this all started, 226 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: this entire ordeal. Roughly ten documents were found in the 227 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: Penn Biden Center. When President Biden's lawyers were packing things up, 228 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: they alerted the National Archives. National Archives alerted the Department 229 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: of Justice. And we now know that the Department of 230 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Justice took this seriously enough to have the FBI go 231 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: in search. We keep hearing about transparency, but then you 232 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: hear stories like this, so it does raise even more questions. 233 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: Did the FBI find anything else? And what does it mean? 234 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: That's what we don't know. We don't know if they 235 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: found anything else. They may have found items that were 236 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: classified or not classified. Because remember, any records from a 237 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: vice president or president should all be at the National Archives. 238 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean they should all be at the National Archives. 239 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: Gail King says what she said, You've called for them 240 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: to go look at the documents in Delaware at the 241 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: University of Delaware. You've also said you should be looking 242 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: at Hunter Biden's office. I don't think there's any way 243 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: now the White House can separate these two stories well, 244 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: and you can see the instincts to try to defend 245 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: the White House saying things like, you know, they've been 246 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: through this ordeal, and you know the raid on January twentieth, 247 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: they were they were very clear about and let us know. 248 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: But even while they're trying to spend forth, the Justice 249 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Department took it very seriously. You see the CBS reporters saying, well, 250 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: we just heard from two sources there was another raid 251 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: back in November that they didn't tell us about on 252 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the Penn Biden Center and that the FBI went in search. 253 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: And you saw when the reporter repeats, well, this all 254 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: started when the lawyers were packing up the boxes. Ben 255 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: some lousy lawyers in my day, but I've never seen 256 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: lawyers whose billing rates are cheap enough that you use 257 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: them to pack boxes. You only send in the lawyers 258 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: when you realize, oh, crap, we got a problem. So 259 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: she's of course not skeptical of any of that, but 260 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you're right. Gail King comes in and says, wait a 261 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: second here, they ain't being transparent. Yeah, And you can see, 262 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: even as shameless as the corporate media is in defending 263 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: this White House, they are getting irritated at the constantly 264 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: changing story every single day where they keep hiding the 265 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: truth and then new facts come out, and they hide 266 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the truth and new facts come out. But at the 267 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: same time they're telling everyone how transparent they're being. Take 268 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: a listen. Yeah, look at the White House. Yeah, I 269 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: think we've been pretty transparent from the very beginning with 270 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: providing information as it occurs throughout this process. You know, 271 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: we have released probably thousands of words of statements from 272 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: the President's personal attorney in the White House Council's Office 273 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: about the process that has been undertaken here, that process 274 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: that has been fully coordinated with the Justice Department as 275 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: they conduct an ongoing investigation, and we want to be 276 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: very careful to be respectful of the integrity of that 277 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: ongoing investigation, and so and so, I think that it's 278 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: important to understand that as these things develop and as 279 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: information developed throughout an investigation. We're trying to get you 280 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: guys access to as much information as we can. I 281 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: don't buy it. I don't believe it. I don't think 282 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: you do either. And I think the majority of the 283 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: American people are starting to lose trust this administration. We 284 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: saw that in the poe from you Gov last week. Look, 285 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: his claim is that they've been quote fairly transparent. Now 286 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: that's they've shifted back from very transparent, which is what 287 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Karen Jean Pierre kept saying, but even fairly transparent. They 288 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: claim that the first batch of documents was discovered November second, 289 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: a week before election day. You know what they didn't do, 290 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: tell it of the American people, tell any reporters, let 291 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: it be published before the election. So that certainly they 292 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: weren't fairly transparent. They weren't a little transparent. They were 293 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: zero transparent. They hid it from the American people before 294 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: the election. We're just learning now about about the FBI 295 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: searching the Penn Biden Center back in November. Again, they 296 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: hid that November, December, January, and it just now is 297 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: becoming public. You know, they're spokesperson there says, well, we're 298 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: coordinating closely with the Justice Department that I actually believe 299 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: that's part of the problem, because the Justice Department didn't 300 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: leak a word of this during any of that period either. 301 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: They leaked like crazy against Donald Trump, but when it 302 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: comes to protecting this White House, suddenly that they are perfect. 303 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: They view their job tragically as political and that's not 304 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: what DJ should be. Last question on this, there was 305 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: a very interesting timeline that we now know a lot 306 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: more about that when they were looking at his house 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: in Delaware, he happened to be at the beach House 308 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: for three days. Then all of a sudden they go 309 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: to the beach House. They say it was planned and 310 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: coordinated with the DOJ. They keep saying there was no 311 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, warrant needed, We've planned this and courted. And 312 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: then they can't say, well, they didn't find me classified 313 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: documents of the beach House. And there's a lot of 314 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: people ask the question, well, no, crap, they didn't find 315 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: any there. They just went there for three days knowing 316 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: apparently they were going to come and search the dead 317 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: gun place. Anyway, I saw a lot of people talking 318 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: that way. Do you think they'd be dumb enough to 319 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: do that? No, I don't think Joe Biden went and 320 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: like hid or destroyed classified documents. That would be spectacularly foolish. 321 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: That would be to use the old Watergate addage, it's 322 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not the crime, it's the cover up, right, you know? 323 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: That would be like, you know, a racing what was 324 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: it eighteen minutes of audio tape from the Oval office 325 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: that ultimately played the pivotal role in bringing Nixon down. 326 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't think the Bidens did that. I think they're sloppy. 327 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: I think they're messy, and I think they got caught 328 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: and then then I think there's an awful lot of 329 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: incompetence that they just keep getting caught again and again 330 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: and again and again. There's two other major issues that 331 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: I want to talk about, and they deal with China. 332 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: One deals in strategical reserves, and I certainly want to 333 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: deal with that. Another one deals in an issue that 334 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask all of our listeners and viewers 335 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: to get involved in because it is something that's not 336 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: been covered by the media. You have been really pushing 337 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: this issue over the last several days because there's an 338 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: important meeting coming up in China with an American hostage 339 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: from Texas. Let's lead off with that because people, and 340 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this because I think it's important, people need 341 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: to be calling their congressmen and their senators and the 342 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: White House, begging and getting the same out there telling 343 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: this story, posting articles on social media. He needs our help. Yeah. 344 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: There's a Texan an American named Mark Swidan who has 345 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: been unjustly imprisoned in China for more than ten years now, 346 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: and it is a horrific story. It began in twenty 347 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: twelve where Mark traveled to China on a business trip 348 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: and on November thirteenth of twenty twelve, he was abducted 349 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: by China's Public Security Bureau, and a witness to the 350 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: abduction said that he was abducted because the Chinese government 351 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: wanted to view the contents of his cell phone. He 352 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: was accused of being part of a criminal conspiracy to 353 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: manufacture and sell drugs. They tried to coerce him into confessing, 354 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: He refused to confess. He pleaded not guilty. They had 355 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: a trial in twenty thirteen. He was found guilty. The 356 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: prosecution at the trial produced no forensic evidence to back 357 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: up their allegations. They never found drugs on Mark. They 358 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: never found drugs in his hotel room. The records in 359 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: his passport show that he wasn't even in China during 360 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: the time of the Edge Defenses, and the eleven other 361 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: people they indicted, none of them could identify Mark. Nevertheless, 362 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: he spent ten years in jail, and in twenty nineteen, 363 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: a Chinese court formally sentenced him to death. His time 364 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: in jail has been horrific. Horrific. They confiscated his Bible, 365 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: they confiscated his rosary because they want to do everything 366 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: they can to damp in and undermine faith. His cell 367 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: is exposed to extreme heat and extreme cold. He's been 368 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: deprived of sleep, He's been subjected to really serious physical abuse. 369 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: He's lost more than a hundred pounds in jail and 370 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: throughout all of this, by the way, he also has 371 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: been denied access to American diplomats and so they haven't 372 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: been able to go go see him his mother. I've 373 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: spoken with his mother a couple of times. She is 374 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: a wonderful woman. Katherine Sweden is her name. She lives 375 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: in Luling, Texas, which is where Mark was born, and 376 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: Catherine has been fighting for her son for a decade, 377 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: trying to get him free. The Communist government won't let 378 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: her speak to him. It's been years since she's been 379 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: able to speak to him, but she's been praying for him, 380 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: she's been speaking out, she's been trying to draw attention 381 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: to get him out. And so this week I introduced 382 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: in the Senate a resolution formally calling on the Chinese 383 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: government to release Mark Swedan and also calling on the 384 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration to use every tool at its disposal to 385 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: secure his release. And the Secretary of State Tony Blincoln 386 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: is going to Beijing, is going to China in the 387 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: next couple of days and is going to be meeting 388 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: with senior Chinese officials, and my resolution formally calls on 389 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: the administration to use those meetings to try to get 390 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Mark released. My resolution was co sponsored with John Cornyn, 391 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: the other senator from Texas. There was an identical resolution 392 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: introduced in the House by Congressman Cloud who introduced it there. 393 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: And I spoke this week on the Senate floor telling 394 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Mark's story. And you know, one of the points that 395 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: I made, China tells people they aspire to be a 396 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: great nation. Great nations don't behave this way. Yeah, great 397 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: nations don't hold hostages. Third world dictators take hostages and 398 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: their treatment of Mark Sweden has been shameful. And so 399 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: it is my hope that when Tony Blincoln is there 400 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: that he makes it a priority to press for Mark's release. 401 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 1: People need to call their congressmen, they need to call 402 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: their centers, they need to call the White House. That 403 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: you need to get the articles online about him and 404 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: start posting these on social media, because this goes back 405 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: to what I refer to as what we saw with 406 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Russia recently and the w NBA player. And when the 407 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: name is out there and people start to talk about it, 408 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: it gets more pressure and it can grow. That's why 409 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: I tell people take our podcasts, share it, promote it, 410 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: tell everybody you know. But there's also a question that 411 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: people are gonna ask, and I'm going to ask you this. 412 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: In certain situations like this, sometimes media attention can be 413 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: a bad thing early on, and there's a strategic nature 414 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: to this, and depending on which country you're dealing with, 415 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: there's different protocol that usually are followed. There's gonna be 416 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: people they're gonna say, why have we not heard about 417 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: this over the last decade, Why did it take so 418 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: long for us to get to this point that we're 419 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: at now, walk us through how this kind of works, 420 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: because it's got to be confusing. So the approach you 421 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: take in a hostage case actually varies quite a bit 422 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: based on the circumstances. And I've been very active in 423 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: fighting for the release of a significant number of American 424 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: hostages held abroad. It's it's a deep passion of mind, 425 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: and so I've spent ten years fighting for the release 426 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: of hostages. In some cases, you make the decision that 427 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: to do so publicly. In other cases, and I'd say 428 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: probably even the majority of cases, you make the decision 429 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: to do so privately, And it depends upon an assessment 430 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: of Okay, would the public attention help or hurt in 431 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: some instances. So there have been instances where, you know, 432 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: I've talked with the US ambassador in the in the country, 433 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: or senior State Department officials, and their judgment is, you know, 434 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: we're negotiating this, we're making progress, and putting public heat 435 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: and attention on it right now would be counter productive. 436 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: There are other times where you just make the individual judgment, okay, 437 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: public attention would move the ball forward here and and so, 438 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: and many times I'll make those determinations or my staff 439 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: will talking with the families of the hostages, and it's 440 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, you certainly hope what you say doesn't make 441 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: things worse. I mean, that would be a terrible outcome. 442 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: There's a reason why. And my floor speech on the 443 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: Senate floor, what I said was carefully calibrated what I 444 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: said on this podcast. There's a reason why I pulled 445 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: out and use the same language, because when you're dealing 446 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: with an active negotiation, you don't want to say anything 447 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: up that screws it up, and so that balance can change. 448 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, I can tell you if you go back 449 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: to the Obama administration, there was a woman in Sudan, 450 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: Miriam Ibrahem, who had been who was imprisoned and sentenced 451 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: to death for the crime of being a Christian. And 452 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Miriam had had two children, a little boy and then 453 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: actually a little girl that she gave birth to in 454 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: jail in leg irons Wow. And she was sentenced to 455 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: receive a hundred lashes and then hang by the neck 456 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: until dead. And she could avoid that sentence if she 457 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: renounced Jesus. And it was horrific, it was evil, it 458 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: was indefensible. I spoke out on her behalf repeatedly. I 459 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: spoke about her on the Senate floor, as I just 460 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: did about Mark Swaddan. I also tried desperately to get 461 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: President Obama to engage, and I couldn't do it. He 462 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: would not say her name. Samantha Power, who was in 463 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: his administration, she would say his name. And I tried 464 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: to get her help to get Obama to say his name, 465 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: and Obama would not do it. But ultimately there was 466 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: enough heat and light and attention put on the case 467 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: that the government of Sudan caved and they released her. 468 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: They released her, and she came came to New Hampshire 469 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: and is living in America, and I had a chance 470 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: to meet her. And Miriam Abraham is this small woman. 471 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: She was in her twenty's, She's quite young, and she's slight. 472 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: And I remember asking her, I said, when you were 473 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: in that jail, when you were with your children, when 474 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: you we're facing death, torture and death, how did you 475 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: not give up? How did you not lose hope? And 476 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: she looked at me with this profound sense of peace, 477 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: and she just said to me, Jesus was with me. 478 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: It's incredible. I got to say, it was a wow. Moment. 479 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: So there are times when public attention can be very helpful. 480 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: There are other times where I've been advised, based on 481 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: the circumstances here, you're engaging in public would be counterproductive, 482 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: and so I don't do it. If the judgment is 483 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: made that in that circumstance it would be it would 484 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: be harmful talk about you. And very quickly, they're also 485 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: speaking loud about this right now, speaking up, and that 486 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: I think tells you that obviously the calculus and the 487 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: timing has changed here, and there seems to be kind 488 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: of a unity right now that we're seeing on this 489 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: for this opportunity to say to China head, we're all 490 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: acknowledging what you've done here is wrong, and we're all 491 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: saying it's time to release this individual. Now. That's exactly right. 492 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: The United Nations has what's called a Working Group on 493 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: Arbitrary Detention, which is a UN group of human rights 494 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: experts who investigate cases of arbitrary detention all around the world. 495 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: And they found that Mark was being held in violation 496 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: of customary international law and international norms and in violation 497 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. So you've got 498 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: the United Nations that has come out for this and 499 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: said it is unjust and unlawful. And I'll tell you 500 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I have raised Mark Swedan's case directly with very senior 501 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Chinese government officials and have leaned in very hard, one 502 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: on one pressing the case. I hope that Tony B. Lincoln, 503 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: when he's there, does the same thing, and I have 504 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: some reason to be optimistic that he will. But I 505 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: think the more public encouragement, the more forceful it may be. 506 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: It's amazing when you think about ten years, your entire 507 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: time in the Senate yea and for end to be 508 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: in jail in these conditions with the heat and the cold, 509 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: and having a jail so that's in that climate at 510 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 1: those times is just so shocking and sad. So I'm 511 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: glad that we're getting this out there. People call your senators, 512 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: call your congressman, grab articles about him. Let's make his 513 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: name well known, and that's going to be what can 514 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: make a difference here. Let's talk about this other issue, 515 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: and this is something that a lot of people may 516 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: not realize happening right now, that deals with strategical reserves. Obviously, 517 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: there was a lot of news earlier in the last 518 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: year where strategical reserves are released right before the election 519 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: to artificially over the price of gas. We also saw 520 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: that some of that oil went directly on a ship 521 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: to Chinese communist individuals that had direct ties to Hunter 522 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: Biden his business dealings and the big guy we would 523 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: assume that would be Joe Biden. Now there's some movement 524 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: on the Senate on this type of issue. Well, this 525 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: week I authored and introduced legislation on the Strategic Petroleum 526 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Reserve and it's bipartisan legislation. So I teamed up with 527 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, Democrat from West Virginia. The bill is the 528 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Cruise Mansion Bill. Awesome. And what the bill will do 529 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: if it's passed is make it illegal for the federal 530 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: government to sell oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to 531 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: communist China. So it just takes China off the table. 532 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: And what's interesting, so there are a bunch of Republicans 533 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: who co sponsored it with me, but there were also 534 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: a total of five Democrats who are on board. Why 535 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: is that? I mean, that's kind of shocking. We haven't 536 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: seen this type of, you know, kind of cohesion here 537 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: between Republicans and Democrats on this type of ission a 538 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: long time. Well, we haven't the Democrats who joined me. 539 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: We've got Joe Mansion, we have Kirsten Cinema. We have 540 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: Maggie Hassan from New Hampshire. We have Angus King from Maine, 541 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: and then we have Michael Bennett from Colorado. So those 542 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: are the five that have joined it. And so look, 543 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: Mansion and Cinema are they're too most likely to break 544 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: and do bipartisan legislation. But to get Hassan and King 545 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: and Bennett is encouraging. And I don't know, but you'll 546 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: take it. This is awesome well and end listen. Mansion 547 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: was helpful in that, and so I rounded up a 548 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: bunch of Republicans coordinated closely with Mansion, who helped round 549 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: up a bunch of Democrats. My hope is that we'll 550 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: get a vote on this and pass it. And I 551 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: don't think it's impossible that this bill gets passed. That 552 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: it may well be the fact that you have five 553 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Democrats signing onto this right now is an encouraging sign. 554 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm certainly going to press for it, and if we 555 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: could actually get it past that that would be a 556 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: very good outcome. If this does happen, Is this a 557 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: blow to the White House at all? Is that how 558 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: they're going to spend this is that this takes away 559 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: their power to manipulate prices when they need it, right 560 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: for elections. Well no, not really, because they'd still have 561 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: the ability to deplete the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. And I 562 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: am supportive of additional legislation that would limit the president's 563 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: ability to engage in political manipulations like Biden did so shamelessly. 564 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: But I think the piece of selling to China was 565 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: particularly indefensible. There's other other legislation, Republican legislation that's broader, 566 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: and in fact I've co sponsored that broader legislation. But 567 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: if we can get China taken off the table, that's 568 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: worth passing into law. And if it's a bipartisan vote, 569 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: it will be a result of Democrats saying, Okay, what 570 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: the White House did here we can't defend and we 571 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: want to get some distance from Lastly, there was a 572 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: letter sent and oa N was kicked off direct TV 573 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: now Newsmax they say, oh we had a fight over fees. 574 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: They're now gone. There's been a letter that you've been 575 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: a part of now that is saying, hey, this looks 576 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: like you're just trying to cancel conservative media. And of 577 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: course they claim, well, we're going to fight back and 578 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: show you guys transparently that it's this is Newsmax's fault 579 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: that you can't watch them anymore, not our fault. Give 580 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: everybody a recap of that letter. Yep. So this is 581 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: a letter I wrote, and I am as of this week, 582 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: the ranking member of the Senate Commerce Committee. Congratulations. By 583 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: the way, well thank you. That's a really big deal 584 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: and that's great for conservative values to have this position. 585 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: It is the top Republican spot on the Senate Commerce Committee. 586 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: The Commerce Committee has jurisdiction over roughly half of the 587 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: US economy and so, and we also have a very 588 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: significant staff that I'm in the process of hiring upright now, 589 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: who prepared this letter, who wrote this letter. The Commerce 590 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: Committee has jurisdiction over agencies like the Federal Communications Commission 591 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: the FTC. When it comes to media and censorship, the 592 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: Commerce Committee has that falls directly under our authority. The 593 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: other committee that has major authority on that is the 594 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee. I serve on that committee as well. The 595 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: ranking member on the Judiciary Committee is Lindsay Graham. Yeah, 596 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: So I went to Lindsay, and Lindsay and I co 597 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: authored this letter together. So it's from the ranking Member 598 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: of Commerce and the ranking Member of Judiciary, and that's significant. 599 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: Any company that gets this letter, they're going to take 600 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: it seriously. Yes. And then also Mike Lee and Tom 601 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: Cotton both signed the letter as well. They were both 602 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: very interested in the issue and what happened so direct TV. 603 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's back up a year ago. The 604 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: three biggest cable news networks that were right of center 605 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: were Fox News, Newsmax, and One American News, and in 606 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: that order in terms of ratings. A year ago, Democrat 607 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: members of Congress wrote to AT and T, which owns 608 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: Direct TV owned seventy percent of Direct TV Texas specific 609 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: owns the other thirty percent. Democrat members of Congress wrote 610 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: to the CEO of AT and T and said, please 611 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: throw off air Fox News, Newsmax and One American News. 612 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: We don't like what they're saying. We call it misinformation, 613 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: which is the Democrat code word for seeking censorship. So 614 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: they asked the CEO of AT and T to throw 615 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: them off. And this wasn't a hidden letter. People need 616 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: to understand This was very out in the open, transparently 617 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: put out press releases. Yeah they were, they were warning 618 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: this fight. Yes, in the year that followed, Direct TV 619 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: has now thrown off the air two of the three. 620 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: So about a year ago they threw one what America 621 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: News off I thought that was a terrible decision. I 622 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: spoke out against it. Then. I think in many ways 623 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: that may have been a trial balloon for what they 624 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: just did last week, which was to throw Newsmax off 625 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: the air. And so now two of the three have 626 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: been d platform And so what my letter does is 627 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: it lays out those facts that, in particular, there was 628 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: a negotiation between Newsmax and Direct TV where Newsmax was 629 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: trying to get paid for its content. And not a 630 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: crazy idea, by the way. Well, although I will say 631 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 1: in the cable and satellite world, some channels get paid 632 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: and some don't, and it depends on how big your 633 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: market is. In fact, there are some channels that pay 634 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: the carrier to carry those that channels. So it's not crazy, 635 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: but it's not necessarily damning. Newsmax was making the case 636 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: they wanted to be paid because their ratings were high 637 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: enough that it merited it. Direct TV said no. Newsmax 638 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: has made the allegation that Direct TV pays a number 639 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: of other channels that are left of center and have 640 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: much lower ratings than Newsmax. So what this letter does 641 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: is it asks a whole series of questions. It asked 642 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: them number one, to preserve all their documents, and then 643 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: it walks through very specific questions about why they terminated Newsmax. 644 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: Is it true they said they were not going to 645 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: pay them a penny? Is it true that they pay 646 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: liberal stations that have lower ratings money but they won't 647 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: pay them, And so it walks them through systematically. I 648 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: will say I have subsequently had had a long phone 649 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: conversation with the CEO of Direct TV. He disputed the facts. 650 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: He said, the facts that Newsmax had conveyed, we're not accurate. 651 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I told him. I said, look, 652 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I understand and appreciate that I've been before I was 653 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: in the Senate. I was a practicing litigator for a 654 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: long time. I've handled a lot of cases, and I 655 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: understand that any dispute there's always at least two sides 656 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 1: to it. So I told him, listen, there's a reason 657 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: we ask these questions. I'm interested in what the facts are, 658 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: and if the facts as they've been conveyed or not accurate, 659 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm interested in seeing that. And I will say Direct 660 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 1: TV committed to giving full and candid and real answers 661 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: to the questions, and so we'll see what those answers are. 662 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: But the goal is transparency at this point. Know how 663 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: they got from point A to point B. And this 664 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: is about silencing conservatives or it was this just really 665 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: about business, and listen, the goal is also a couple 666 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: of other things. The goal is also one of the 667 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: things I ask for is any communication they've had or 668 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: their corporate owners have had with Democrat members of Congress, 669 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: or with the White House or with the administration. We 670 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: know from the Twitter files this White House is quite 671 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: eager to silence people. I want to see any communications 672 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: that have happened with Democrats. But I also told them 673 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: straight out, I said, look the outcome I'd like to see. 674 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Newsmax back on the air. And 675 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: they are on other carriers, but Direct TV is a 676 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: pretty big carrier, and they lost a whole bunch of 677 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: households when they got pulled down from Direct TV, and 678 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: I said, listen, there are millions of Texans and millions 679 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: of Americans who would like the choice, who would like 680 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: the option to be able to watch Newsmax. There are 681 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: a ton of choices left of center. They're only a 682 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: handful right of center. But one of the things I 683 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: made very clear also, I said, listen, if you disagree 684 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: with what Newsmax says, or o An says, or Fox 685 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 1: News says, there's a remedy for that. You can say 686 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: you disagree with it. You can The best cure for 687 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: bad speech is more speech. Look, we played MSNBC. I 688 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: think most of what MSNBC he says is utter nonsense. 689 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: But I don't want them censored. I don't want them 690 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: pulled down. They have a right to spew their nonsense. 691 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: If nothing else, they help support podcasts like this because 692 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: they give us easy pinions material. Yeah. So the answer 693 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: if you disagree is engage on the substance and actually 694 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: present the argument. It's not use corporate power and money 695 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: to silence the voices you disagree with. And so, what 696 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: I hope comes from this is that we learn more 697 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: what happened. We learn the extent to which Democrat politicians 698 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: were involved. We know of the opening letter that at 699 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of this we don't know if there were 700 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: subsequent communications. But I also hope that this scrutiny, and 701 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: it's our intention to drill down and investigate what happens here. 702 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: We hope that this scrutiny causes them to revisit the 703 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: decision and say, you know what, our viewers are better 704 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: off having the choice to watch Newsmax if they want 705 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: than they are are not having that choice. That's the outcome, 706 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: that's the goal. It's fun to get to hear what's 707 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: going on in DC. This is exactly why we do 708 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: this podcast For all of you that are watching, Thank 709 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: you don't forget. 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