1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: M The Around the League Podcast could beat Dante Whitner. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast. 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: Greg Rosen thought what hop boys? Hey Dan, Happy Friday. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: And to you, I was in a chipper mood. I 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: came in on my off day and we were walking 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: up to the studio and at one point I put 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: my arm around Mark and he he kind of physically 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: withered within my grip and sort of shook out of it, 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: shook out of it a little bit, and maybe I've 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: decided you're a guy that just doesn't like the touching. No, no, 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: that that's over dramatizing it. It's tad um. I thought 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: that it was a little bit uh flip on your part, 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: and so that was probably more my response. And two 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: keywords off day and we're on the on day, right, 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: we're cranking high of content. He's saying, we're business. I 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: am just in a mode that is less playful. Well, 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: you are very upset about March madness. To you, do 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: not like the fact that people are watching and on 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the television's enjoying office life post Super Bowl. You want 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: everyone focused on work. I think the I think that 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: West and Greg are on board with this, that it 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: is a tedious distraction where you've got a small pocket 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: of the room non style. It's Football seven for us 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: cranking out low level free agency transactions, and the rest 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: of the room essentially could be at a dive bar, 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: watching big screen TVs and proffering bets on basketball. Am 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I wrong? I know I'm alone on this one, but 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: I would rather hear about how you magically constructed your 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: fantasy football roster than any thoughts about where you went 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: to college or how your college team is doing, how 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: your bracket is doing. Your grown man, you're forty years old. 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Who cares where you went to college twenty years ago. UM. 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: I will retort that one of the reasons I got 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: into sports was for a scenario whereby I'm in my 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: office and March madness is in the room. I mean, 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: that's what's cool about sports. And you work in a 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: newsroom and people are talking and it's on if you 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: can't if people get out of line and they talk 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: too much, I get it, and they distract you from 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: doing your work, and that is every man opinion that's 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna get win from the listeners shore But I'm admitting 44 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm an outlier looking for well, when there's a big eruption, 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, someone hits a buzzer beater or whatever, I'd 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: like to look over at Mark because I just can't 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: wait for it to end. I admit I'm grumpy about it. 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm closer to Mark's side of things, but I can 49 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: understand dance as well, because we're find the outlier within 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: the A T L group. Yeah, I grew up loving it, 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: and it actually makes me wonder why have I like 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: something that meant so much to me for so long? 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Even as recently as six or seven years ago, I 54 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: was really into Like you know, I could care less. 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I used to love Yukon and I I didn't even 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: watch their game on purpose, Like I knew it was 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: on and I just didn't want to watch it. And 58 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you're grown up now, Yeah, I guess. So I grew 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: up loving this field of sixty four. Syracuse was my 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: dad's team. Watched years and years of Syracuse basketball, so 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: it's in my heritage, but it's where I am today. 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't care less. You spoke of going to the 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: motion pictures with your father in the last podcast, and 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: West deflated the moment. West, how do you shoot down 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: that childhood memory mark is Gargamel and march madness is 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: the Smurfs. I like to see it the other way around. Now, 67 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: all these people are out having fun like the Smurfs, 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: just running around, and you want to clamp down on 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: that fun. But you agree with me, Yes, sol Twin, 70 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: that would make me as real. Well, you guys like that. 71 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: He's my little pet cat. You guys are the older 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: generation of a t L. And I do think this 73 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: is somewhat about getting old. When you get older, you 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: have to just start deciding things that are no longer 75 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: worth your time. You only have so much time left 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: on earth that you're gonna focus on the things you 77 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: like and you don't need this. I also like to 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: pivot it in the way that we are very focused 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: on the assignments that Greg has given us, very work 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: focus right now. One of my observations about adulthood to 81 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: how it's weird that people over the age of thirty 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: five get into all these niche like fields. People get 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: into uh like square dancing. They all they only hang 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: out with their square dancing. How does a person end 85 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: up like that? Just people need things to do to 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: get through life. That's what it is. They need distractions. Alright, 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: So now that half the podcast is over, let's get 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: into some football talk. Um. We have a full show 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: later on. We're going to talk with um one of 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: the great defensive players of the last decade. Am I 91 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: overstanding it? Who cares? He was a guest, So let's 92 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: let's respect them, man, I think that's overstaying. Good Bears 93 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: linebacker Lance Briggs, a seven time Pro bowler. Uh. He 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: will be on the show a little later. He's gonna 95 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: talk with uh, Mark, Greg and I, and then we're 96 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: going to West. Doesn't like players, so we we asked 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: him to leave the room when the players come in. 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's not exactly how played out, but let's 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: let's let's leave it out like that. Um. Also, we're 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: going to do a little talk about the running backs 101 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: left on the market and where they shake app But 102 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: before we do that, as we always do during the offseason, 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the gold standard behind the glass. How are you doing great? Thanks? 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: I assume you were watching soccer in the editing room 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: while everyone was watching Yeah, yeah, I was so confused. 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: People were running around with are using their hands and stuff. 107 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: Is weird? Yeah, Um, can we do some ox first 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: team looking this year? We're all right, we're doing great. 109 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: We're in the Division eighteen basket netball chaper wearing a 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: football jersey. Actually, I see it gets even worse. How 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: did this happen? How did you end up playing in college? 112 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: You need to just start with a fake British accent 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: at this point, did you have a wicked Google? The 114 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: wickedest of Google's West. It's all over my head. Now news, yeah, 115 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: let's do some news it alright. We start in Oakland, 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: where the Raiders are close to acquiring Matt Shob in 117 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: a trade from the Houston Texans. This would make Shob 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: the presumptive starter in Oakland after what was by all accounts, 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Matt Shob would agree a nightmare two 120 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen season in Houston. Um, this seems a little 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: strange to me. I mean, it seems like, uh, you're 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: getting shop on the other end of it. But it 123 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: also plays into this fact that the Raiders are in 124 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: this weird in the middle zone where they're rebuilding and 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: trying to somehow win seven games. Where what do you 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: guys take from this move on the way. I feel 127 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: like Reggie McKenzie is that baseball general manager that's spending 128 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of money just trying to be five hundred. 129 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: There's no chance that they could win a title, but 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: they're doing everything possible to save their jobs and win 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: seven games. And Matt Shob Chris would argue, this is 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: probably the best guy out there to go do that. 133 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I think Matt Schob was awful last season, and I 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: don't think I guess Reggie mackenzie and Greg Rosenthal disagree 135 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: with me. I don't think anyone who watched Terrell Prior 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and Matt Shob over the last twenty games can say 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: that Matt Shob is a better quarterback than Terrell Brior. 138 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: Prior Or gives you a better chance to win. I 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: know that football guys probably feel in a similar vein 140 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow and Prior that Prior is not a 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: long term answer. When you only use half the field, 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: teams are gonna catch on it, and progressively you're gonna 143 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: get easier to defend. So I understand that I don't 144 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: think Shops an upgrade in any way I agree with you, Wesleyan. 145 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: And one reason this is more fascinating than any basketball 146 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: games going on is because this is the team building 147 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: time of year where we learn a lot about not 148 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: only Reggie mackenzie, but I think the pressure that Reggie 149 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Mackenzie is under. And there are obviously people, whether it's 150 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: the coaches, uh the owner whoever in his ear saying 151 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: we we saw Terrell prior and we don't want to 152 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: do that for another year. And it seems desperate to 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: us on the outside. But there's something they like about 154 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Matt Shob. But like you said on another show, Shops 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: played dipped severely in two thousand twelve at the end 156 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: of the season. It wasn't just last year, and they 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: are paying him a king's ransom to come in and 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: presumably start from week one. I don't get it because 159 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: I love the James Jones signing. I like some of 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that Mackenzie started to do. They're taking us 161 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: on a roller coaster ride it. Yeah, you're right. It's 162 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: not just choosing Shob over prior. It's choosing Shob for 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: ten million dollars and trading what will probably be a 164 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: inconsequential draft pick for him. This is a different move 165 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: than Houston bringing in Ryan Fitzpatrick, which they did uh 166 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: this week, or Matt Castle resigning in Minnesota, or Jacksonville 167 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: bringing Chad Hanniback. This is ten million dollars is it's 168 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be our starter. I think they could 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: still draft a guy. Do you guys think they'll they 170 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: could still take a quarterback with the number five pick. 171 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: It's possible. I think they think this is kind of 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: like the Jacksonville situation that allows you to go best 173 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: player available but probably doesn't have a huge impact on 174 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: your draft. They couldn't potentially dial up a guy like 175 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: car later in the draft or something where there isn't 176 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: this pressure to put him out on the field. It 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they're about to pick a rookie and 178 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: have him supersed Shaw by week one. That would be 179 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: very weird, isn't it. Isn't It certainly possible, if not probable, 180 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: that the Raiders could have just let Job get released 181 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: and then signed him to a two year, six and 182 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: a half seven million dollar contract. I think they were 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: worried that Browns were gonna take him. Shanahan sitting and 184 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna get outbid in a bidding war for Matt 185 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: shob coming off one of the worst seasons in recent 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: memory in terms of disaster plays. I I just don't 187 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: buy this fact that they needed to give up anything 188 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: and then pay the guy uh seven and figures to 189 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: make in their quarterback. It just seems like way too 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: much for a guy in the down slope. I can't 191 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: figure out what Mackenzie's doing, and I've been trying to 192 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I've been trying to check myself and wonder if I've 193 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: been too hard on him. I understand you don't want 194 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: to overpay for young free agents if you don't see 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: their solution. Veld here in Houston I thought were their 196 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: best players. Mackenzie obviously didn't value them that much, and 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: and I guess I see getting some leadership in there, 198 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: some proven talent. But I think Greg's right, you're spending 199 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: your way to a seven win team here. I don't 200 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: know what's what's the end game saving your job? I 201 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: guess it's the end game. But is there a coach 202 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: in Oakland or someone with a voice that says this 203 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: is such a better option for us than getting Ryan 204 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or someone else. I mean, who Fitzpatrick's a better 205 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: quarterback right now? Someone obviously lobbied really hard for the 206 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: Raiders to jump off the mcplank and do this. Who 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: thinks Roger Staffold, with multiple injuries over the last few years, 208 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: is a better player than Jared Beldier. And I guess 209 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm just confused. I don't think I can evaluate talent 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: better than Reggie mackenzie. I'm just thoroughly confused by what 211 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: they're looking for in players. We should call this the 212 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: Reggie coaster now in terms of his free agency, where 213 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: it plummets and then it starts rising a little bit 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and now it's plummeting. Jones was he had a nice, 215 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: a nice little string of signings late in the first 216 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: week of free agency. I thought, where he kind of, 217 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: you know, Lee was spending the money and there's bringing 218 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: in some guys that weren't terrible. Um, it was obviously 219 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: an upgrade over Saffold. But now with Shob I'm back out, 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: they have a stronger roster than they did last year. Yeah, 221 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: So in that way, I guess there's a wrong. I 222 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: think Shob, with a good offensive line and running game, 223 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: could go out there and he wouldn't embarrass you. Maybe 224 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: he's the twenty second best starter in the league, the 225 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: twentie best starter in the league. He's better than some, 226 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: but that the Raiders don't have that on a better roster. 227 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Last year he embarrassed himself. I do think that there 228 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: was a lot of four straight games and called him 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: broken man. Then he was a broken man. Well, that's 230 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: just a guy who's watching the games like us. Since 231 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving him two thousand twelve, Shop has sixteen touchdowns versus 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: twenty interceptions, yards per attempt down by two from eight 233 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: points something to six. I think the fact they had 234 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: to trade him and paid him this much, that is 235 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: really a case where the Raiders being at a low 236 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: hurt them because I think Dan's right um that he 237 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be paid that much. But if your Matt Shop, 238 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: I think he did have options. They knew that that 239 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the Browns wanted to get him with Kyle Shanahan, and 240 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe he would have taken less money to stay away 241 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: from Oakland, so they had to overpay and other news 242 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: in Miami, rich Well, this isn't in Miami. Richie Incognito 243 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: would like to return to the Dolphins or the Oakland Raiders. 244 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: We've just been talking about maybe that would be the 245 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: next step in the Reggie coaster, to sign Richie Incognito, 246 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: bring him to town. But his uh, Incognito's returned to 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: the league is not uh that simple a matter just 248 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: simply finding a suitor. A league source told NFL media 249 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: insider Ian Rappaport on Friday that Incognito could sign a contract, 250 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: but he can't be paid or play until he undergoes 251 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: a comprehensive evaluation by NFL and NFL Players Association designated 252 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: medical advisors, and then Rob Roger Goodell must review their 253 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: report and recommend it. There just seems to be a 254 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: lot of step at this guy back in the league, 255 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: and he was a middling guard entering his age thirty 256 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: two season before this. Right, I think he has friends 257 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: in the media who for whatever reason, have fallen under 258 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: Richie Incognito's spell over the years, that have been trying 259 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: to sell that maybe he can go back to the 260 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Dolphins or the Raiders. Why would any why would any 261 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: team want this guy? He is a borderline even if 262 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: he didn't have everything going off, but he's got problems. 263 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: He's been in three different facilities, he's unhinged. It's insane. Well, 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: don't think if you want to make a quick argument 265 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: for him landing in Oakland, he has a relationship, you know, 266 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: presumably not negative with Greg Olsen and with Tony Sperrano. 267 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: But if you look at the Oakland's current roster, they 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: have six guards. They don't need him, and also, by 269 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: the way, not a very good player. If this guy 270 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: gets back into the NFL and Tim Tebow can't, the 271 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: NFL loses all credibility. There's no reason Richie Incognito should 272 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: ever be on an NFL roster exactly. I imagine it's unlikely. 273 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Imagine if there was a guy coming out of the 274 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: draft that everything Richie Incognito did now in the pros, 275 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: that he did that in college, he got kicked off 276 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: his team, he got suspended, and he was a third 277 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: or fourth fifth round prospect. There's no way anyone would 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: think about it. Right. If Tebo brings a circus, there's 279 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: no way Incognito is not bringing a circus no matter 280 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: where he ends up. Now you're you're upsetting me a 281 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: little bit because you're mentioning Tim Tebow. I feel like 282 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: the narrative in society we haven't been talking about him. 283 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: You're opening up Pandora's box by getting his name out there. 284 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: Nobody cares what I say, Um, but we he's Greg 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: and I. This is really the heart of this. Have 286 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: a sandwich bet involved about Richie incognito, whether he returns. 287 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I think I thought he did, he would about three 288 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: months ago. I don't think that anymore. He's not gonna 289 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: play again. You have to wait years and year. You 290 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: don't pay that sandwich does not change hands yet. I've 291 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: heard many people this week say that he's that they 292 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: think he will get back in the league, which seems crazy. 293 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: It does help that society forgets everything that's true. That's 294 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: a really good point we do for you. We've almost 295 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: forgotten that Ted Wells report NFL gum shoot Ted Wells. 296 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: How much nasty stuff was in there. The fact that 297 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: this is even something that's a story today is interesting. 298 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: We can't even remember our sandwich bets from one show 299 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: to the next. Good thing. I barely remember any of 300 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: your names. Um all right. Jared Allen has made a 301 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: second visit to the Seattle Seahawks. There was a report 302 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: floating around on Thursday that a deal was just about done. 303 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: It's not that quite far along. According to Rappaport, this 304 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: is something that Alan is going home and he's gonna 305 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: think about it. But as Gregg you pointed out on 306 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night in the news room, how often do you 307 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: see a player make a second visit to the same 308 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: team during a free agency run? Almost never. You don't 309 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: want to make more than one visit to any team. 310 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: If you're making a second visit, it just means that 311 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: you're not happy with the deals that you're offering. And 312 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: it's even weirder that he made a second visit and 313 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: then didn't sign, so he's not getting the offers he wants. 314 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: His agent and him misread the market. It's been a 315 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: terrible couple of weeks for them, and I would guess 316 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: he's deciding whether he wants to retire or just take 317 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: one of these deals. And I always thought this was 318 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: a bluff with Jared Allen walking into the sunset and 319 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: to me, going back to Seattle after they didn't make 320 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: an offer the first time around, shows again that he 321 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: really does want to play, but he's he's it's almost 322 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: like a guy like asking a girl, actually says no 323 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: and then circling back a week later, He's like you sure, 324 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Like it's probably not gonna change anything, but there's a 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: level of desperation involved, some experience in that industry. Listen, 326 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it, but I could 327 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: tell you it doesn't work. This is where we need 328 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: a the video podcast, which might be coming someday, because 329 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: the look and kind of the motion Dan made as 330 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: he was doing that, it was it was something, um, 331 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: extremely fetching. I'm sure. Um so yeah, I think this 332 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: guy will absolutely be in the NFL next year. The 333 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: only thing is he's gonna west. I know you're big 334 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: on chips on people's shoulders. Uh, there will be a 335 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: chip on a shoulder because it's gonna be some one year, 336 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: five million dollar deal and he will feel like he's 337 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: been disgraced by society for getting paid that much. It's 338 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to sleep on that sum of money 339 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: he's piled up over the years. You can see how 340 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: we have a chip over e shoulder for only getting 341 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: five million correct. Um. Moving forward, Antonio Cromarty UH signed 342 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Arizona Cardinals on Thursday. Um. Obviously, 343 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: the Jets couldn't have been too interested in bringing him back. 344 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: But that's a good signing for the Cardinals, who um, 345 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: if Honey Badger gets healthy, that could be a really 346 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: good secondary and quick from the Jets angle. People have 347 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: obviously been flaming John Zick all week long, and some 348 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: of it rightfully placed. Some of it. You know, we 349 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: don't know really what's going on in Europe, but they 350 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: must have really had almost zero confidence in cremarts recovery 351 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: from the hip injury, or is overall durability to not 352 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: match that offer a guy that's so familiar with that 353 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: defense and a Rex Ryan guy. The good thing about 354 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: being John is that those flames won't reach him until 355 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: next week. And it's not because he moves fast away 356 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: from him glacial speed John. That's going to stick to 357 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: him until he potentially makes a spl signing vic in 358 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: the next even that one to do it. Let me 359 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: just ask you guys, what do you guys think about 360 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinal second day right now? Look, Carmarty had just 361 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: as bad a year playing cornerback as Matt Shop had 362 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Everyone likes this move, people bound and I 363 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's crazy for the money. People 364 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: do bounce back, but that's how bad Cromarty was I've 365 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of people ask me on Twitter if 366 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: I believe Hakim Knicks or Darryn mcfann can bounce back, 367 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: why don't I believe Matt shop can. And to me, 368 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: it's all about confidence and maybe a lack of arm strength, 369 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Like I see it as tangible, whereas with the other 370 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: guys maybe it's maybe you can get it back. But yeah, 371 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I think Cromarty was playing through a hip injury, so 372 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: maybe he gets He says he did not undergo surgery, 373 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: but it's the same hip he's has surgery on in 374 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: the past. He is now on the wrong side of thirty. 375 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: I think you know there there are questions about it, 376 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: but that's a perfect deal for him at this stage, 377 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: at least from the team standpoint. Yeah, Honey Badger and 378 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: the slot Patrick Peterson on one side. That tells me 379 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: in Tony Camarti is gonna get a lot of balls 380 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: through and we don't know. Honey Badger's reports haven't been glowing. 381 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: In turn, he's he's gonna be ready by the start 382 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: of the season or training camp. But that guy is 383 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: coming off major injury. If he were healthy, This secondary 384 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: is one of the most tantalizing in the league. Crimarti 385 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: a low risk signing. If he can get back to 386 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: what he was two seasons ago, he was impressive, and 387 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: you brought up is Zac and what he could do 388 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: to potentially change this storyline of him being a glacier 389 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: guy trading for Deshan Jackson would do that, and that 390 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: leads us to our next topic. Thank you. De Sean 391 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: Jackson Um. There's been reports that he is that the 392 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are listening two offers. The Raiders, the Jets, 393 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Niners of all been teams that are 394 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: believed to shown some interest. And Chris Westling you wrote 395 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: a post on Friday for the Around the League page 396 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: about the Carolina Panthers not reaching out to the Eagles, 397 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: but the Eagles perhaps reaching out to them. According to 398 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: the Charlotte Observe, the Eagles reached out and they were 399 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: among the teams that the Eagles reached out too. So 400 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: this team they are now initiating contact, which seems to 401 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: me that it's escalating Jackson's exit from Philadelphia. You know, 402 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: bad front offices these days, in the bold days of 403 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: free agency, tend to lose out to a guy like 404 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: John Elway, a guy like Bill Belichick, some of these 405 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: better teams that they go in and they go for 406 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: the throat. And that's what I think the heart of 407 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: the criticism of Izick is is he's, as they say, deliberate, 408 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: slow moving. He's allowing more experienced guys to come in 409 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: and get the deal done. If he wants to turn 410 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: his reputation around, you gotta get all these guys out 411 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: of the way. Go get to Sean Decker because I 412 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: an actually you you are trying to defend Zick, but 413 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: he has got to go out and change this offense. 414 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: They're an annoying team if they don't do anything else 415 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: than that. Eric, I agree with you. On Wednesday, I 416 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: defended and I still defend because I think some of 417 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: this has been overblown. But the press, the conference call 418 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: on Thursday morning reinforced anything you could ever think about 419 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: ezec and and the way he operates, the way he 420 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: answers questions, the just the tone of his voice, and 421 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: what he's done to Rex Ryan, who's basically a neutered 422 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: version of his former self. Rex at one point at 423 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: Thursday on this conference call said g GOLLI, this is 424 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. I think it's a like something. It's seriously 425 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan answered some of those questions on Thursday, like 426 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: he had a gun in his rib rib cage. He's like, ah, 427 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: durell vus he signed elsewhere? What can you do behind 428 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: the curtain. He's in quotes pissed at everything that's going on, 429 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: obviously right right he and he even went as far 430 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: as saying he referenced he said, I'm not going to 431 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: use the P word. I'm not going to be a 432 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: smart alc. These are the words he's using. He's now 433 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: talking like a nineteen forties news man. And and he 434 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: was saying that when he gets when he gets mad, 435 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: it's not at John Zac, it's at the layer that 436 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: doesn't sign with his team after visiting and what happened 437 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: to everybody wanting to play with Rex. See, there's there's 438 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of disconnect with the Jets. So I'm starting 439 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: to get a little nervous. I gotta be honest, Chris. 440 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: After writing this, do you think now that de Sean 441 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: Jackson will be traded? Yes? I thought he would already, 442 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: but I thought maybe it was about fifty five or 443 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: sixty percent before, and now I think it's probably last 444 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: night where he basically said that the issue with DeShawn 445 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: it's not the salary, et cetera. It is his fit 446 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: in Chip Kelly's locker room. And I think when that's 447 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: the heart of the matter. Sometimes it's like Kelly does 448 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: not want to go to another season with this guy. 449 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: He's out the door. He's such a good fit on 450 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Do it? Do it? Reggie, just go crazy? 451 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: So Matt shops six five eight yards per attempt on 452 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: play action, can start throwing it downfield to DeShawn. Now, 453 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. And I remember when this 454 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: when this story popped up. This is one of those 455 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: that bunch of Eagles angela, Oh, why is the media 456 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: stirring this up? This is not gonna happen. This is 457 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: one of those media generated stories. When these things happen, 458 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: they don't just happen by accident. It's because the Eagles 459 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: want to dump them. I mean they don't. It just 460 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: doesn't come out of the things from thin air. Oh, reporters, 461 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: it's a media generated story. They'll deny everything on and 462 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: off the record, but they know what they're doing. Another 463 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: thing Eagles fans also said was Jackson's worth at least 464 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. He's not a million yeahs 465 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: not with a ten million dollar contract? Is not West? 466 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: By the way, a guy that comfortable arm around the shoulder, 467 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: I can in Huckaboos a lot of that, right, like, uh, 468 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: we're in the bar together, great softball game. Yes, there 469 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: is a lot of arms around shoulders in Huckoo. It's 470 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: a lot of everything in Huckapoo. Maybe Mark needs to 471 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: go there for you know, shoulder treatment or whatever, you know, 472 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: just to get used to again. It was because it 473 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: felt a little flip. It wasn't a sincere yes, because 474 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: many times hugged women, men, whatever it may be, in 475 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: various scenarios, and it's why don't you trust me? I've 476 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: hugged you before you are my friend, and I hugged you. 477 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: I hugged you after we hugged We ended our moving 478 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: session with you because you were so pleased with the 479 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: job that West and I had done. West and says movers. 480 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: It just turned it into a commercial. You guys did 481 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: do a great job. Oh can you help me out 482 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: again this weekend problem? Oh great, you guys are great. 483 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I like that. I'm totally out of this well. Well 484 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: on two levels moving obviously, but also you definitely don't 485 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: want to be touched. Not a touch guy, Greg. I 486 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't think I was against that. I don't know. I'm fine. 487 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: Interesting A bit of a Prickly Pete? Um, alright, wasn't 488 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: that a famous racehorse or a famous cartoon racehorse? And 489 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe a long long time ago Prickly Pete. It sounds 490 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: like a sign cartoon days it was like a sound 491 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's there's some famous movie or TV 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: show where Prickly Pete was involved as a racehorse. Is 493 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: this a silent picture? I don't know. George Castanza is 494 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: coming to my mind or someone someone of that ilk 495 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: before we bring Lance Briggs in here. Uh, one last 496 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: topic to get to and running backs don't really seem 497 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: to get any respect in the NFL anymore, whether it's 498 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: the draft or in free agency. But there are some 499 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: pretty big names out there. Um, so what do you 500 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: guys think about playing some running back roulette like it? Uh? 501 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Gold Center? Can you put in any type of sound effects? 502 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: Maybe like a roulette wheel spinning, some chatter, or maybe 503 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: like a gun going off. That's a little dark. Maybe 504 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: we feel away from gambling illusions backfield bacarrot. That's good 505 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: to backfield back rot. Uh So, I'm gonna go around 506 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: the room, gentlemen, I'm gonna throw a name out there, 507 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: a little background or where he's at right now, the 508 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: particular player, and see what you guys think about. And 509 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: we'll start with Maurice Jones Drew, former Jaguars star two 510 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: thousand eleven NFL rushing champion. He is turning twenty nine 511 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: years old. On Sunday, he had a visit with the Steelers. 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: Apparently is looking for uh three and a half million. 513 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: I've seen reported on a deal which might be hard 514 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: to get. I will start with you, the mad scientists, 515 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: the mailman, Chris Westling, m j D. You're buying. He's 516 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: on my he was on my pre free agency list 517 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: of potential bargains. I like him to have a bounce 518 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: back here. I don't like to fit with the Steelers 519 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: for two reasons. Steelers have enough cap problems that they 520 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be paying three point five million for a running back. 521 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Second reason, Levy on Bell is a three down back 522 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: about to hit his prime. They need a backup. And 523 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't picture Jones Drew as a guy willing to 524 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: accept that role. Let's throw him in Miami. Let the 525 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: carry's there with one of those younger guys. Maybe Lamar Miller. 526 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: He can help out the young group. He can take 527 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: their downs and be competent. They need some veterans on 528 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: that offense. I like that as a better fit than 529 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: the Steelers. If his foot is healthy and he's in shape, 530 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: I still think that guy could have a year or 531 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: two left in him. Maybe. I don't think that's outrageous. 532 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I could hug you right now, Mark, right back at you, 533 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: all right? Speaking of Mark, like hugging Buddy's getting weird? 534 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: Um No, Sean, Yeah, very long time ago, No, Sean Moreno, 535 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: he was. He's had a nice season with the Broncos 536 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: last year. He's turning twenty seven in July, reportedly meeting 537 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins on Friday. What do you think 538 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: about this one, Mark, No, Sean Moreno, Well, I think, 539 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: as we just said, that Dolphins are one of the 540 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: teams that I think is a real Kennedy to ask 541 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: to add a some help back there. I think Lamar 542 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Miller is definitely still in the plans. Daniel Thomas on 543 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: an inspiring sort of a plotter never average more than 544 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I think three point seven yards for carrying his entire career. 545 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: Marino's just twenty six. I think we saw what he 546 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: could do last year, although those numbers a bit inflated 547 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: in that offense where you've just got to be paying 548 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: attention to Peyton Manning all day long. They brought him in, 549 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: they must, they must like him to some degree. The 550 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: one thing though, the Dolphins to me with Dennis Hickey 551 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: came from the Bucks and he was part of the 552 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: front office that fell in love with Doug Martin. And 553 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: there's a guy like Carlos Hide sitting out there that 554 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: has dimensions and play style similar to Martin. There's been 555 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: some reports that Hickey may the Hickster, maybe targeting someone 556 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: to outright replace Thomas and go with a Carlos Hide. 557 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: So maybe Marino is a backup plan. I like Marino 558 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: or someone else going to the Dolphins, though, let's put 559 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: a let's put a Marino back in Denver. That's where 560 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: he lay basically said yesterday, we absolutely need to gett 561 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: Are in the running game. Isn't that a full on 562 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: indictment of I read it as an indictment effective role 563 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: at the very worst, is can't he make their team 564 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: better as a as a good role player? Had yards 565 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: from script? The difficulty with that situation is, how do 566 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: you bring no Sean Marino back and after racking up 567 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: sixteen hundred yards make him your third down back and 568 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: give the job to Monty Ball better than league? Who's 569 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: who's Monty Ball's backup right now? Annie Hellman, Yeah, that 570 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: draft pick went out fumbles McGee. I like that name, 571 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: west Lamar Miller. We're talking about the Dolphins. I know 572 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: you were on on his train for a while last year. 573 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: Are you out on like Lamar Miller? But it's clear 574 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins coaching staff does not moving on, and 575 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: they see him every day. Yeah, that's fair. Moving on 576 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: this gentleman. Le Garrett Blount blunt blunt blunt blunt instrument. 577 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Twenty seven years old. He UH is set to visit, 578 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: reportedly with the Steelers on Sunday. A very strange player 579 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: to figure out, because he was barely it seemed like 580 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: he was barely in the league this time last year, 581 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: and then he became the greatest running back in the 582 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: history of football. For a stretch UH this past winter 583 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: in December and January, including an insane playoff game where 584 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: he rushed for four touchdowns in seven thousand yards something 585 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: like that. Um, but he's also La Garrett Blunt. That 586 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about the same guy. Greg Rosenthal, 587 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: you are the resident Patriots fan. I ask you, what 588 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: are we to make of La Garrett Blunt? La Garrett Blunt, 589 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Big Garrett Blunt. Pittsburgh makes sense sense for him. I 590 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: like that as a clear backup hammer. He's just kind 591 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: of it kind of fits with the whole They want 592 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: guys that you know at the goal line, tough guys 593 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: coming in. But I think an even better spot would 594 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: be the New York Giants. These free agent running backs 595 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: are so cheap right now, you can just sign a 596 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: bunch of them. In newsflash, were Shot Jennings and Peyton 597 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Hillis is a terrible backfield. Add another guy. Let's do it. 598 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: It's not it's not gonna cost you, not gonna cost 599 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: you a million dollars. Bling it. Bring it Blunt and 600 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: see what happens If this was nineteen seventy two, like 601 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: Blunt would have five million dollars? Would I like Blunt 602 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: to the Giants at Harkins Back to my youth where 603 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: all the dirt bags in my school were wearing Rodney 604 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Hampton Jersey's. I feel like he is in built in 605 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: that mold. I think he might even have the same 606 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna go Ron Dane Ron Day. Well, no, he's 607 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: better than Ron Day. And I think Jared Bunch, Jared's bunch, 608 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Jared Jared Bunch. Why is that not? I think he 609 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: played for Michigan, A big power guy, right, big shoulder 610 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Pad West podcast to a scratching halt pre Chris in 611 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: this room. No, he played for the Giants. Oh okay, 612 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: so I don't even remember that. But Rodney Hampton was 613 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: a guy that he was the prototypical early nineties Giants player. 614 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: Blood exactly a thousand yards. I think Blunt is going 615 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: back to New England. They're letting him test the markt 616 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: the same way they did with Edelman, and he fits 617 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: best to New England. And he knows that he's going 618 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: back to the page. Maybe the Giant should listen up 619 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: and take this Patriots approach. If you don't have some 620 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, great Lashawn mccoyit they player just have four guys, 621 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: use them, all right, You'll use the blood makes sense 622 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: as a guy you don't use all year because when 623 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: the weather is nice, you're passing all the time. But 624 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: once the weather gets nasty, then you saddle him up 625 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: for thirty carries. When your defensive legs, your wide receivers 626 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: are out, your tight ends are gone. Saddle up blunt, 627 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: fresh legs. Hon opportunities, headline opportunities for the writers. Jam 628 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: should listen to us more. If they just listen to 629 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: the podcast and took notes, that's a good gold center. 630 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Can you start transcribing entire podcast and then sending it 631 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: to the thirty two teams. I'm already doing that. He's 632 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: not read. I should some the gms entering into tailspin 633 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: mode probably have been listening to us, all right, last 634 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: one before we get to Lance Briggs, and I'll kind 635 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: of throw this one to the floor. Chris Johnson, Tennessee 636 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Titans running back form a two thousand yard rushier turning 637 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: people kind of forget. He's starting to get older now 638 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: he's turning twenty nine. In September um, there was a 639 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: report out there that there was quote real interest from 640 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: multiple teams in a trade, but we haven't really gotten 641 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: any evidence that that's actually true. Chris Johnson, You guys 642 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: buying or selling. Wesley absolutely, it's all ridiculous. Cares Wesley 643 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: absolutely into this argument because c J one point one 644 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: k bang follow Jerry Jones on Twitter, it's all over 645 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: gold Sander missed a perfect opportunity for a Bunsen burner 646 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: blowtorch there way one. Yeah, just just road in there, 647 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: give us like three in a row because Cessler just 648 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: lit the man on fire. Well, I didn't. I didn't 649 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: know that I was gonna sell Mark so hard on 650 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: my tanguous Twitter connection between Chris Johnson and Jerry that 651 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: it did seem like more than a coincidence. Right as 652 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: he hits free agency, or right when free agency starts 653 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: and talk of him being released or traded, he starts 654 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: following jeary, I could I could really see Chris Johnson 655 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: being a deeply disappointing player for the Dallas Cowboys. Doesn't 656 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: he seem like a cowboy? By the way, a week ago, 657 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Dexter mccluster followed the Cleveland Browns on Twitter, then unfollowed 658 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: them and signed with the Titans. So you know, these 659 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: guys are throwing some they're throwing somes lost his confidence 660 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: Now he's like anytime Sessler talks. I'll just do it. Greg. 661 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, uh, you know, if we're not gonna throw 662 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: him in the Cowboys, how about another you know, malcontent, 663 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: miscreant over to the Raiders, Red Mackenzie, just the isle 664 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: of misfit toys like John Gruden used to do in Tampa. 665 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: Every guy that no one wants, bring him the Oakland. 666 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: I like that, good good call. Alright up next we 667 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: are going to bring in Lance Briggs. West has to 668 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: go to the dentist. I don't know where you're going 669 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Dr Pevo, Dr Pievo, um Peevo has 670 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: got to give me some discounts. By the is, the 671 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: entire newsroom, or at least the entire e t L 672 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: crew I've sent to that man's using your barber too, Camille. 673 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't steer people wrong, Dr Pevo, Culver City my wife. 674 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: You're about to use your sports orthopedis too. That's a 675 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: good man too. See, it's all you guys have a 676 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: sports orthopedis NFL writers, Greg, what sports? What sports are 677 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: you playing? I hurt my shoulder playing softball. I have 678 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: a torn rotator. Softball doesn't count anyway. Oh that's terrible. 679 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna give you a hug for that question. 680 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 1: All right, Chris has gotta go alright. Very special guests 681 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: now on the Around the League Podcast. He is a 682 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowl linebacker for this Chicago Bears seven times, Yes, Greg, 683 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: entering his twelfth season in the league. He is one 684 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: of the great players in the league on defense. He 685 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: is Lance Briggs. Welcome to the A t L Podcast. Lance, 686 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: you were saying you're out here in Los Angeles interviewing. 687 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that, I'm interviewing for a job, man, 688 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, but you have a job I do. I do. 689 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: It's temporary, though, it's temporary, you know, the NFL, and 690 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: he's not for long. Well, you said you were on 691 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: the NFL am um this morning, and you actually said, 692 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: this is your quote at this point, I'm losing a 693 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: brother every year, one or two brothers every year. Um. 694 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: But that's just where it is. So I guess you're 695 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: you're only are you staring down your NFL mortality entering 696 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: your twelfth season and you're looking forward? Is that where 697 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: we're at? Well, you know, that's that's how the timeline 698 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: kind of goes. Yeah, you know, I come into the league, 699 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: and this is is guys just running all over the places, 700 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: hitting everything. You know, then you get to the point 701 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: where this guy is the top of his game, and 702 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: then it's his guys moving fast for his age. So 703 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: you're looking for when you say interview, though you're talking television. 704 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: Could you're dressed for television not a pot? What do 705 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: you think about hosting a podcast? Maybe the Briggs Podcasts platform? 706 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: Is this what is required to Yeah, the street continues. 707 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: Every guest we've ever had on the podcast outdresses us 708 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: by about four. You've done it in a nice brown suit, 709 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: brown tie, nice design, their white shirt. A lot of 710 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: Bears have been coming through NFL Network I've noticed lately. 711 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, Jeffrey Devin, Devin Hester, your your ex teammate. Well, 712 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, um, for a lot of the guys in Chicago, 713 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: if they're out there, um, you can't think of any 714 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: better weather. That's true. Uh. Speaking of Brandon Marshall, when 715 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: he was in here a couple of months ago, we 716 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: were talking about his season. He was happy with how 717 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: his season went, but he also was a little banged 718 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: up and he was all about getting um ready at 719 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: a level where he would have his best season ever. 720 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: He said he wanted to have the thriller of NFL seasons, 721 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: in reference to the great Michael Jackson album from three. 722 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: I ask you, Lance Briggs, if you were to have 723 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: a great season next year, what album would it be? 724 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: If I wanted to have a great season, how would 725 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: you describe he was saying his season next season it 726 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: was it was an album. It would be thriller. It 727 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: would just be a game, million albums sold, you know, 728 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: conquers the world. Shoot you, guys, I don't know. That's 729 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: it's a hard question. But alright, right without even hearing 730 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: anything about it going into it, might would be the 731 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: Phil Collins solo album. You're right, it is tough right 732 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: off the top. Maybe like an early career tribe called 733 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: Quest album. How about that? You know people like it. 734 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: It's not gonna blow the world on fire, but it's 735 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: a crowd please there good reviews. I'd go act hung 736 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: Baby by you two where you kind of revolutionize yourself. 737 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: You you change the game up. People look at you 738 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: one way. You come out and you look totally different. 739 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Lance breaks could do that twelve years in. Maybe change 740 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: the topic and I see vehicle another Irish person. Let's 741 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: say let's shift away from the album thing for a minute. Here. 742 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's put you and all your Chicago Bears teammates 743 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: into a harsh wilderness environment and it is a Hunger 744 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: Games type scenario. You're unleashed for months and months. One 745 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: winner take all? Which one on your roster wins that past? 746 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: Whoa okay? Did not? No hesitation? That came quick? Now 747 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: what let's say you were attributes? Why would you win? 748 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm a survivals I'm gonna survive. Who would come in second? 749 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: You're saying, well, here's the here's the way this is 750 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: gonna work. Though, you know, I'm kind of like, uh 751 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: is a catanis Everden? Kind of like that, you know 752 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: where where I want to survive, but I don't want 753 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: to be the only person that survives, you know, Like, well, 754 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're gonna build alliances and and 755 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: at the very end, you know they're gonna have to 756 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: make a decision on having to kill us rather than 757 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: us have to kill each other. I like that. Now, 758 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: let's say you were to look around the room at 759 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Greg and Dan and myself. You guys, Let's say let's 760 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: say the three of us were thrown into the same scenario. 761 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: Who would you pick to win that kind of just 762 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: us three? Yeah, and and all they put in there. 763 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: It was like a number two pencil. Um, you know, 764 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: that's a flippit of coin. That's a flippit of coin 765 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: because you know, where I think that you're gonna have 766 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: the bron You're gonna be faster, you know, and and 767 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: you never know if if we're talking about a wilderness area, 768 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be quick on your feet. There's 769 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: a lot more than just brawn involved. It's it could 770 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: be weeks and months indoor, true, and what if they 771 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: what if they don't bring food for a long time? 772 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: You know that could that could come into play. I'm 773 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: taking a number two pencils somehow. Hey, I just was 774 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: curious that you were played with a double harness at 775 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: the end of last season on your on your left shoulder. Um, 776 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna go with a single harness. What is the difference? 777 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: And is that something is your shoulders? Is it at 778 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: a state now where it's just not gonna ever be 779 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: fully healthy? You need that kind of support. How how 780 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: good do you feel physically right now? You know? I 781 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: mean I was coming off from an injury where my 782 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, ligament wise, if if um, anytime in those 783 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: last two games, if I would have fallen the wrong 784 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: way or got hit the wrong way, you know, I 785 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: could have set myself back, you know, over a year. 786 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: So um, it was important for me to protect that 787 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: as much as possible for those two games. And if 788 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: I needed to wear two harnesses, then that's what I 789 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: needed to do, you know. And uh and I wanted 790 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: little or no movement from my arm at all. That 791 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: one of those things if you're making a tackle that 792 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: every time you're making a tackle, it's painful. Uh. No, 793 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: it worked out fine because of the restriction, the way 794 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: I was restricted, you know, I could only tackle a 795 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: certain way. You know. I was kind of like this 796 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: land to reach out, man, use my right arm. But 797 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 1: now you know, I'm I'm at the point now where 798 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get strength back, you know, and 799 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: trying to get confidence back in my shoulder, throwing out 800 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: the shoulder. Just assuming you're fully healthy and you're at 801 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: the peak of your career anytime, who is the guy 802 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: that you hated to tackle the most? Is there a 803 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: guy out there that's the toughest to tackle? Bring down. Uh, 804 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: there's nobody that I hate to tackle. I love it 805 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: when I tackle somebody because it means that plays over. 806 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: But you know, Percy Harvin was one of the guys 807 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: that was She's a real pain, but prayer for because 808 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: they can line up in the backfield and run the 809 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: ball better than most tailbacks can run the ball. You know, 810 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: you put him in the slot and he's gonna he's 811 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: gonna burn you that way and put him out. I'm 812 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna bring you that way. Um there, I can get 813 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: you on the reverse. He was just a dynamic player 814 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: or he is a dynamic player. And uh, and I'm 815 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: glad he's not in our division anymore. Is there? Are 816 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: there one of those guys that you just love to 817 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: tackle that you looked forward when he was on the schedule, 818 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: whether it's a quarterback or running back, anyone, you just 819 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to hit him. Well, I mean, 820 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: I love hitting everybody, but you know, some guys you 821 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: don't get your hands on, you know, as often as others. 822 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: So a guy like Aaron Rodgers, when you do get 823 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: a sack on him or anything like that, that's big. 824 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: And and the when when guys take the action photos 825 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: of that basement, you know is there? Uh you know, 826 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: with with your career at the stage where you're looking 827 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: towards the future and stuff. If you had a chance 828 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: to play with anyone in the league today that hasn't 829 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: been a bear during your tenure, there someone you love 830 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: to be a teammate with. Uh? So many? Um, I 831 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't. I'd love to be in the a 832 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: meeting room or shoot me in a team meeting or 833 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: locker room and and uh, you know, pick some of 834 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: these guys brands like Aaron Rodgers or or uh Tom 835 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: Brady or or or or Peyton you know, or um, 836 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, you can pick any de DeMarcus where you know, 837 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, you know, all these guys defensive guys and 838 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I love him to go out, you know. Um, 839 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: so what was the uh Brian Dawkins. You know, I 840 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: got a chance to play in some Pro Bowls with 841 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: him and just being in the huddle with him, you know, 842 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: and I could feel his intensity as a guy's real leader. 843 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: You know. I would have loved to play with him, 844 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean there's a lot of guys 845 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: back in the day I would love to play with um. Uh, 846 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Derek Brooks, if I could have Derek Brooks ray Lewis. 847 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of guys, a number of guys. 848 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: You know, you just brought up one Hall of Famer 849 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: and one future Hall of Famer before you go. Do 850 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: you see yourself as a future Hall of Famer and 851 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: you think you've put up that type of production? You know? 852 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, I know, I know I'm I'm a 853 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in my mom's heart, in the in 854 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: the person that it matters the most. Absolutely, I think 855 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: Bears fans would put you there. I mean, how many 856 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: guys have that kind of longevity. I know Bryan her 857 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: Locker of course did alongside with you for so long, 858 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: but it's pretty rare to see someone with the same 859 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: team for that long. And now do you feel kind 860 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 1: of you're the standard bearer of this Bears defense coming 861 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: off coming off not as good a year as you 862 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: guys are used to as a defense? Uh? Do you 863 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: feel kind of you're the guy now that you know 864 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: you and Charles Tillman that you're the guys that stand 865 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: for the Bears defense? Uh? I mean we you know, 866 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: I think we're we're definitely two of the guys that 867 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: that that epitomized. You know what, um what what you 868 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: expect that of? You know, the Bears defense. But I 869 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: think all represent it, you know, whether it's good or bad, 870 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: we all represent it. And and that's kind to be 871 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 1: our focus to get it back to what it's supposed 872 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: to be, you know, in this season. Lance Briggs, thank 873 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: you very much for stopping by the Around the League 874 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: Podcast studio. We hope maybe one day you're a colleague 875 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: of ours, but hopefully not too soon. And congratulations on 876 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: your hypothetical Hunger Games championship. As alright, that does it 877 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: for another edition to the Around the League Podcast. Uh 878 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: we will be back on Monday. Mark Cessler and Greg 879 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: Rosenthal will be in Orlando for the owners meetings. Who 880 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: la la to quote Damna check Uh so we will 881 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: touch base with you guys on that will also uh 882 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: play when West's toaster at the end of the week. 883 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: So get excited a lot of pressure on the gold 884 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: Standard not to let us down. But until Monday, the 885 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: stand hands to signing off for the mail Man, the Sizzler, 886 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: the Boss, and the Golden Standard behind the glass. Until 887 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: that